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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is no They call

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Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer

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Speaker 1: Alexis code name Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you.

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Speaker 1: You are here that makes this stuff they don't want

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Speaker 1: you to know. It's the top of the week, which

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Speaker 1: means it is time for some strange news, cadavers and music.

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Speaker 1: The mystery of the Texas Grid, uh, the Texas Electric Grid,

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Speaker 1: and then a choice that I thought this might be

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Speaker 1: a hashtag no saw gentlemen, I thought this might be

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Speaker 1: fun game to play if you're down for it. Okay, now,

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Speaker 1: I love that level of trust. Noel. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you what they get. What the game is. Uh, It's

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Speaker 1: it's not Russian Roulette. But um, so I know we

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Speaker 1: all read stuff extensively lately, I've been having a tougher

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Speaker 1: I'd like to give you uh three headlines and maybe

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Speaker 1: Matt Noel you will pick the one that you want

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Speaker 1: to hear from uh from me in in today's segments.

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Speaker 1: So I've already made my choice. Sorry, but go ahead

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Speaker 1: and read them all right, Okay? Cool? This is like

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Speaker 1: we're sucking the joy out of this for you back. No, No,

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Speaker 1: it's like voting in the center. Okay. So number one,

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Speaker 1: as the Pentagon just admitted to retaining and testing UFO wreckage.

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Speaker 1: number three, what's with the United Kingdom saying they will

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Speaker 1: not resuscitate COVID nineteen patients with learning disabilities? Those are

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Speaker 1: the three. What do you think, Matt, You said, you've

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Speaker 1: got your mind's made up. Well, there's some really important

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Speaker 1: it's just horrible the reporting that's coming from the Guardian

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Speaker 1: right now about that last story you mentioned with the

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Speaker 1: do not resussitate, but you said the phrase the Pentagon

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Speaker 1: cannot cover that story. It does feel that way. That's

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Speaker 1: a unanimous vote, all right, Okay, alright, that sounds like

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Speaker 1: that's of like Unamo's vote. So uh, let's if you

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Speaker 1: we will in all seriousness, we are returning to the

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Speaker 1: story about the protests, the massive protest on going because

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Speaker 1: And in that way, the desire to get all the

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Speaker 1: fully legitimate proof that the Pentagon did collect Ufo wreckage

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Speaker 1: holds out. So so here's the backup. Stop me when

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Speaker 1: be some questions. So Brigalia said that the U. S.

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Speaker 1: fifty four page test results regarding a medal called knitten All.

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Speaker 1: and to sell actual a Guinness. Right. They ran, they

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Speaker 1: and they ran the Scholastic book fair. I was always

428
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Speaker 1: very excited about those books. Along with other things we

429
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Speaker 1: mentioned in past episodes. I do want to point out

430
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Speaker 1: less I seem too pretentious for knowing so many unnecessary

431
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: words for a long time. As a kid, I thought

432
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Speaker 1: stage name was just the name of a local stage.

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Speaker 1: So I thought people's stage names were like the stages

434
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Speaker 1: they went to to do whatever their show was. It's

435
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Speaker 1: like you know when you go to a festival and

436
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Speaker 1: they have like the big stage, the main stage, and

437
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: the two smaller stages, and they all have kind of

438
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: clever names or names of like the companies that sponsor them.

439
00:27:53,960 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: That's money. Then yeah, And I thought I thought I

440
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: thought pen name was what people name their pens. It was.

441
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: That's not a very well adjusted members. You learned something

442
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: new every day. Um. Last thing, uh so the two

443
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Speaker 1: headed alligator picture I mentioned before Um that was actually

444
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Speaker 1: perpetrated by a guy by the name of Justin Arnold,

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00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: who The Tampa Bay Times also believes osare resembles um.

446
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Speaker 1: Ozair has said he doesn't know anything about this Prince

447
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: Midnight thing, or at least he, you know, denied any

448
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: associations And this is not me and I don't know anything.

449
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with that. I do want

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Speaker 1: to say this other guy, Justin Arnold, who The Tampa

451
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Speaker 1: Bay Times believed Ozar could also possibly be. He's the

452
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Speaker 1: one who tricked the paper into publishing this two headed

453
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Speaker 1: crocodile picture on its cover. So maybe they're a little

454
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: peeved about that two fourteen. Maybe they're kind of after

455
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: him a little, because it really does seem like they're

456
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Speaker 1: trying to do almost like some kind of lighthearted character

457
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Speaker 1: assassination here. But I love this. This guy, Justin Arnold

458
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Speaker 1: is currently the front man of a punk band in

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay called Ferrell Babies, which I think is a

460
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: fabulous name for a punk band. Yep. And did you

461
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Speaker 1: mention the response when this outfit from I think it's

462
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Speaker 1: from a group called or As As it happens, they

463
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: reached out to that punk band and the response was

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Speaker 1: go f yourself. Okay, so punk totally. And also the

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Speaker 1: Ray Roya, who has been kind of following a lot

466
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Speaker 1: of this stuff. Um, and he seems to believe that

467
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Speaker 1: these are all kind of one and the same. Um.

468
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Speaker 1: He's on the side of whomever this person may be. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's the editor in chief of Creative Low Fan, which

470
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Speaker 1: we also have here in Atlanta. I guess that's the

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Speaker 1: Southern thing. I didn't realize that it was just it

472
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Speaker 1: wasn't just in Atlanta. Um. But he he says, quote,

473
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Speaker 1: calling him a prankster seems cheap because he's a performance artist,

474
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Speaker 1: a genius in a way, so a genius in a way,

475
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Speaker 1: in a way compliment now, well you know, I mean

476
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Speaker 1: he didn't call him a genius. So you're good at

477
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Speaker 1: not wet in the bed in a way. Oh, come

478
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Speaker 1: on better, that's a little that's not it's just it's

479
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Speaker 1: a head. It's a head. I go, you're I get it.

480
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Speaker 1: And and there is there is something to be said

481
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Speaker 1: with the the idea of the subversion, which I'm quite

482
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Speaker 1: a fan of, the idea of hoisting someone pranking them

483
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Speaker 1: for not doing their due diligence, like the Sun and

484
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Speaker 1: the Daily Mail. To MAT's earlier point, knowles earlier point,

485
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Speaker 1: they didn't investigate as much as they should. Uh. But

486
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Speaker 1: it also makes me think, so these kind of performance artists,

487
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: they they need an audience, right, So it makes me

488
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: think there's more in the future to come. And by

489
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Speaker 1: the way, the guitar is he he has dubbed it

490
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Speaker 1: the skelecaster, which just clever. And if in fact it

491
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: is made of human remains, which he obtained legally, uh,

492
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Speaker 1: he cannot legally ever sell this because it is illegal

493
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: to traffic human remains, to sell human remains, yeah, to

494
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: uh to civilians correct, Yeah, yeah. And I don't think

495
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: any medical labs would be in the market for a skelecaster.

496
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: Maybe a museum. I was gonna say, he could probably

497
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: donate it, that'd be tight. Well, but then now I

498
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: don't know what does it take to have credentials to

499
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: buy things like this? The heart of darkness? Is it

500
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: technically illegal to buy things from for serial killers to

501
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: sell and profit off of their memorabilia. Earlier episode, will

502
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: In delt into the world of serial killer merchandise. We

503
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: found a pretty disturbing industry. Uh, those laws I would argue, Uh,

504
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: the legal constraints are a little bit different, Like, for instance, Uh, yes,

505
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: there are laws against serial murderers who are convicted making

506
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Speaker 1: money off selling their own story or something like that. Right,

507
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: but after someone dies after say it Ted Bundy passes

508
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: or something like that, then there's not really anything to

509
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: stop someone else from saying, hey, I have this parking

510
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: ticket the guy signed, or you know, I have Eileen

511
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: Warnos is uh childhood grammar book for some reason like

512
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: that that's sticky with a museum. Unfortunately, there there are

513
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: a lot of gray areas here. Like I in the

514
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: past it made snarky comments about the British Museum, which

515
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: gives lie to the idea that the government has done

516
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: with the days of empire because they did not give

517
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff back. So museums can museums have.

518
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: First off, they spent a lot of time working on

519
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: codes of ethics. So the first question is for the museum,

520
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: is it ethical for us to pay for the state?

521
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Um? And they and and honestly,

522
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: museums address that differently depending on the country and depending

523
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: on the museum. So you could maybe if you're listening, uh,

524
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Speaker 1: what what's the name of Getting Midnight. His name is

525
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Speaker 1: Prince Midnight. And by the way, big shout out to

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Speaker 1: UM Internet Today, which is a YouTube channel that I've've

527
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: really been digging the last maybe six months or so.

528
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: During COVID, they do a segment every week all weekly

529
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: weird news and I have sometimes crib stories from them,

530
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: and they reported on this as well. UM and they

531
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Speaker 1: pointed out that the you can find his music as

532
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: Prince Midnight on Spotify. Uh. And it's it's metal ish

533
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: but it has a lot of marimba vibra phone on it,

534
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: so it's a little like odd sort of a weird

535
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: metal jazz hybrid. I haven't listened to yet, but I

536
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: trust those guys. Is that has like a rat on it,

537
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: you know, like made of human bones, it will be metals. Yeah, Oh,

538
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: I was talking about the pedal, but oh, funny you

539
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: should say that. And I'm just gonna leave it this.

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00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: This is speaking of musical instruments. I just bought a

541
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Speaker 1: electric thumb piano. It's a it's a kalimba. It's got

542
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: the little times on it that you can play with

543
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: your thumbs, and it has a like it's a wooden box.

544
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: It's really cool sounding, and then it's got a jack

545
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: on it and I Am going to plug it into

546
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: a rat pedal and a bunch of weather stuff too.

547
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to made out of human bones. Though

548
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: I know we're jumping off this story, I really do

549
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: think the stuff theyn't want you to know. At the

550
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: heart of this is the fact that if you can

551
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: get out their story that you come up with, and

552
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: you get one reporter at one even smaller legitimate outfit

553
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: to to publish a story, you can get the entire

554
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: Internet to just respond and say things like, well, according

555
00:34:54,880 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: to this, yeah, yeah, yes, and your research. Do your research, guys,

556
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: watched the read the Sun and watch the video. Like people.

557
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: People can be too credulous, you know, I mean, nobody

558
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: ever talks about this. It's so easy to just make

559
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 1: up a word. Maybe we mentioned their make up a word,

560
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: get it mentioned five times in five different publications, and boom,

561
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: you have a shot of being in the Oxford English Dictionary.

562
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: It's like, that's a flibbertasm, right, we could make that

563
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: a thing. It's a living language. Uh. It reminds me too,

564
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: I like, if you want to see this happening in

565
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: real time and see like the mechanics behind making a

566
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: total horse story, you know, go viral and be picked

567
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: up by seemingly legitimate news organizations. I highly recommend you

568
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: watch them. Nathan for you episode about the Petting Zoo

569
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: where he essentially frames a story where a goat resk

570
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: a pig, excuse me, rescues a baby goat from drowning,

571
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 1: and he just does all this behind the scenes stuff

572
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: with scuba divers and like they build like a plastic

573
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: track for the goat to go through, and they have

574
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: a guy say go in the water, and they do

575
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: all this thing and make a phone video and upload

576
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: it and it gets blasted out on Reddit organically picked

577
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: up like crazy, and then before you know it, George

578
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: Stephanopolis is talking about it, Japanese news stations are talking

579
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: about it. You see this in real time. It is genius.

580
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: It can be done. And ending on that inspirational note,

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Speaker 1: we will pause for a word from our sponsors and

582
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: be back with one more piece of strange news. And

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Speaker 1: we are back, and this story comes to us from

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Speaker 1: the big old state of Texas. We have a lot

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00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 1: of people out there right now listening who are in

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00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: Texas I'm sure hopefully you're hearing this recently after we're

587
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: recording it and you're not just sitting there trying to

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00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: find a place to charge your phone still, because I

589
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: know that's probably been something you've been dealing with as

590
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 1: well as you know, turning the heat on and staying

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00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: warm enough in frigid temperatures. Uh. As of this weekend

592
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: and over the last week, there was an incredible winter

593
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: storm that went through Texas and just blanketed the almost

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Speaker 1: the entire state and the surrounding areas in you know,

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Speaker 1: freezing rain, in snow, and all kinds of things that

596
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Speaker 1: are really bad for electrical grids. Things that are you know,

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Speaker 1: bring trees down, and you've probably dealt with that wherever

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Speaker 1: you live. You've probably seen freezing rain or something bring

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Speaker 1: a tree down, knock over some lines that are going

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Speaker 1: across the street or something, and then took out power

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Speaker 1: in a small area. Well, imagine if you are in

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Speaker 1: this giant state of Texas and pretty much everywhere the

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Speaker 1: power goes out, and not only that, after some of

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Speaker 1: the major parts of of the infrastructure are repaired, you

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00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: have to as an end user, as just a per

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00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: in with a house or an office or something. You

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Speaker 1: have to deal with rolling blackouts where the the power

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Speaker 1: is turned off just to sustain all of the other uh, well,

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00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 1: let's say critical pieces of infrastructure within the state. Because

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Speaker 1: you can't just send power everywhere and all the time

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Speaker 1: because there's not enough to go around. It's a pretty

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00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: terrible situation to be in in Texas probably right now,

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Speaker 1: I know, at least over the weekend, it's been pretty awful. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna this story comes from w f a A.

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00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: It's a local ABC affiliate there in Texas, and the

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Speaker 1: headline is Texas power outages. How the largest energy producing

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Speaker 1: state in the US failed in freezing temperatures. And I'm

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Speaker 1: won't go over the entire thing with you here, but

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Speaker 1: the bottom line is that we know what happened at

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Speaker 1: this point, and we know that it's happened before at

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Speaker 1: least twice in the fairly recent past, and we know

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Speaker 1: how to fix it and prevent it from happening again.

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Speaker 1: But the major thing that's in the way is cost

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Speaker 1: and money. So it's not like this was a situation

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00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: in Atlanta when there was you know, snow apocalypse or

626
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Speaker 1: Snowmageddon when that occurred, where the major issues were traffic

627
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: related where there were power outages, but it was mostly

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Speaker 1: you know, trees that fell down and took out small

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Speaker 1: parts of the grid, and then other parts of the

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Speaker 1: grid got a little overloaded. In this case, with these

631
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Speaker 1: freezing temperatures, there are a lot of energy producing nodes

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Speaker 1: essentially places where energy is actively being produced for power

633
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Speaker 1: is being produced since being sent back onto the grid,

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Speaker 1: and in these freezing temperatures, many of these in Texas

635
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Speaker 1: literally froze. The mechanisms where perhaps a mechanical pump that

636
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Speaker 1: is being used or something that is turning, literally froze

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Speaker 1: to the point where they could no longer function. And

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Speaker 1: what ended up happening is that just with this part alone,

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Speaker 1: and this is only one factor within all of the

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00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: loss of power the system, just through this one little thing,

641
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: the system has lost or did lose, tens of thousands

642
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: of megawatts because of this. A single megawatt, by the way,

643
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: can power five homes, which is a nice thing to

644
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: knows does it take to make a jigawat all of them?

645
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: All the megawatts get a jigawatt um And I want

646
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: to go back to this concept that this has happened

647
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 1: before so in in two thousand eleven, there was another storm,

648
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: a winter storm that came through and did pretty much

649
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: the same thing. Uh. It took out a lot of

650
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: the infrastructure due to freezing mechanical stuff that was used

651
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 1: to generate power. And you can go to if you

652
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: look at that article that I cited from w f

653
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: a A, they link to an August two thousand eleven

654
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: report from the North American Electric Reliability Corporation as well

655
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: as the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, and it has recommendations

656
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: about this event where a massive power outage occurred because

657
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: of freezing temperatures. And in here they cite pretty obvious

658
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: things how to weatherize certain equipment that was rendered ineffective

659
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: in these cold temperatures. They they laid out exactly what

660
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: needs to be done. The problem is it costs a

661
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: lot of money to do that, and there are a

662
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: lot of independent operators here. They would have to take

663
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: those costs on or they'd have to get grants or

664
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, essentially loans from the Texas government to do this.

665
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: Because unlike a lot of other states, Texas runs its

666
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: own energy for the most part, for the most part,

667
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: at least, UH, there's this thing called e GOT. I

668
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: think that's the one where you win the ammy of

669
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: the Grammy of the oscar in the town. Sorry, it's

670
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: it's not the EGOT or the EPCOT, the RCT. It's

671
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: the Electric Reliability Council of Texas and they manage this

672
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: is a quote here from their website. They manage the

673
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: flow of electric power to more than twenty six million

674
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: Texas customers, and it represents they represent about the state's

675
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: electrical load. Yeah, there are a couple of other outfits.

676
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: These other outfits exist entirely due to the gargantuan size

677
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: of the state of Texas. I believe I'll passed was one.

678
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: There's an interesting it's an interesting aspect here. Texas kind

679
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 1: of had a suite deal with Like the US has

680
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: three three electric grits. Right, We've got the Eastern Interconnection,

681
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it sounds like, the Western Interconnection, it's

682
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: exactly what it sounds like. And then we've got Texas,

683
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: which is mostly what it sounds like. Of it is

684
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: what it sounds like. And then these other places are interrelated.

685
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: The two thousand eleven case is really interesting to me.

686
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: Um and shout out to our friend James, I think

687
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: we should say who is talking with us a little

688
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: bit about this? But it's really interesting to me because

689
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: in many ways Mexico was a better neighbor than some

690
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: of the adjacent US states, and they helped Texas out

691
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: when it's grid was down in twenty eleven. Um part

692
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: of it goes deep into the Texan history of wanting

693
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: to be as independent from a federal government as possible

694
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: and the result of that. Now, I think there's a

695
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: good argument to be made here. Uh And I do

696
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: think this could be a full episode similar to that

697
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: Enron conspiracy with blackouts in California, which they totally did

698
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: on purpose. The The thing here is that Texas is

699
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: kind of having its cake and eating it to the

700
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 1: critics say like, we're independent, we don't need we don't

701
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: we don't need no stinking Feds. Until something goes wrong,

702
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 1: and then it's like, oh, we are part of this,

703
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: please help us out. And this is not at all

704
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: a dame upon the millions of people living in Texas,

705
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: who were, of course not alive when this conversation started.

706
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: The thing is that the Reliability Council has some enormous

707
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: powers here. They were formed in nineventy, not after a

708
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: blackout in Texas, but out of after a blackout in

709
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: the Northeast, and they said, let's not let this happen again.

710
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 1: We're beyond the jurisdiction of the fetes um except when

711
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: we need this assistance. And you're right, do just like

712
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: just like the quote unquote snowpocalypse in Atlanta, why did

713
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: everything go sideways? It wins sideways because just like that

714
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: case in Old Smar, Florida, people didn't care about the

715
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: boring of structure. I don't care about the turbines assault, right,

716
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: I don't care about this snool plows. When's it gonna

717
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: snow in Atlanta? I don't care who on Earth is

718
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: going to hack a wastewater treatment plant. The thing is

719
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: those eventualities exists. So I think this is an infrastructure problem.

720
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: But we're all talking on fair and you say there's

721
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: and I agree with you that there's something curious or

722
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: about this, if not the cause of the outage, which

723
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: to my mind so far does seem to be weather.

724
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like there's an in RHN to play purposely

725
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: killing the lights. Uh. But as far as people are,

726
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: people in institutions are navigating this UM went about you guys,

727
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: I heard some weird rumors about zip codes. Yeah, there's

728
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: definitely stuff going around on social media. When you look

729
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 1: at the power outages maps, if you look at which

730
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: areas seem to have a consistent flow of energy and

731
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: then the other areas that are either dealing with those blackouts,

732
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: the rolling blackouts, or just power outages in general, it

733
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: looks on the surface like there's a bit of um,

734
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: what would you say, income gap between those who have

735
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: power and those who don't. It seems that way. Who knows, Uh,

736
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: there's no way for us to prove it currently that

737
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: something like that is happening. I would just say those

738
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: maps do seem they do seem to paint a picture. Yeah,

739
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: it's just to be clear. It's when Matt say there's

740
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: a discrepancy between the zip codes. This is not saying

741
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: that the very poor and disadvantage zip codes got power

742
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: back on first because their lives are already more challenging.

743
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: In fact, it's uh, it's quite the opposite, isn't it.

744
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: This is a little unrelated, but in this something I

745
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: just found out about. But this is a story from

746
00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: December of apparently UM California water h is now a

747
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: future to be traded as a commodity because of potential scarcity.

748
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: Um that just seems wrong. Wrong. There's a whole other

749
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: thing that we're not even getting into today that I

750
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: do not understand, frankly, and that is the trading of power,

751
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: the trading of electricity within the grid. And you know

752
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: how much it costs when you sell, where it's coming from,

753
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: where it's going, who needs it now, where's the demand?

754
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: And this is one of the things that that are

755
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: COOT group, the e R c o T. That's what

756
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: they handle. That's one of the things that they do

757
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: for of Texas and you always wonder if that could

758
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: come into play in some way for this stuff. But

759
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: in the end, it really does feel like, at least

760
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: to me, that this is a problem of infrastructure that

761
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: was shown to be an issue in that was then

762
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: shown to be an issue again into the thousand eleven.

763
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: But since it was a report made by the Public

764
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: Utility Commission of Texas UH it had it wasn't mandatory,

765
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: So you know, the individual operators, the companies that run generators,

766
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: that run power plants, they didn't have to do anything.

767
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: And like you said Ben, this is a winter storm

768
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: scenario that comes along once in a blue moon, as

769
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: they say, or you know, twelve years once, then twelve

770
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: years later, and then again roughly ten years later. Is

771
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: it worth all of that, you know, the millions of

772
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: dollars that it would take. We don't know what price

773
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: do you put on a human life, because let's remember

774
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: we are also talking about hundreds of thousands of people

775
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: who depend on technology to live in a very literal,

776
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: unpoetic way. They will die without continual help of medical

777
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: devices and so on. And yes, of course hospitals do

778
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: have secondary backup systems just for this. Uh. I think personally,

779
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: a well run state level independent electric grid, I get it.

780
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: Like that seems like it could be workable. You know. Um,

781
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: there's a great thread going on over at our Facebook page.

782
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: Here's where it gets crazy where we've got a lot

783
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: of our native Texans or current Texans in the crowd

784
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: talking about this and bringing up bringing up some great points,

785
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: and people are hurting. There are people who haven't at

786
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: power of water for thirty six hours. Uh. There there

787
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,839
Speaker 1: are people are saying, you know, we need to abolish

788
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: our coot and get on grid with the rest of

789
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: the country or or as, as some users have pointed out,

790
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: maybe invest more in Kott's infrastructure. Boring though that investment,

791
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: maybe uh, and then maybe maybe take a serious internal

792
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: look at the organization to see how the people in

793
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: place can make sure this sort of stuff doesn't happen,

794
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,479
Speaker 1: Like if you were not in the US. First off,

795
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: just to give you a sense of scale here. First off,

796
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: if you're not in the United States, it is very

797
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: difficult to understand just how cartoonish lee big Texas is.

798
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: You can drive and drive. Have you guys ever driven

799
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: all the way through Texas? All the way through When

800
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: I was on tour with that MetalMan, we drove through

801
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: Texas because we had like four different shows in Texas

802
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: and then one in New Mexico, So we like drove

803
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: over the course of a couple of days, we drove

804
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: like the width of Texas. That's nuts. Yeah, Okay, we're

805
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: talking eight hundred and seventy miles to go from border

806
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: to border. That's like fourteen to sixteen hours on a

807
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: good day. That's not like there are countries that are

808
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: smaller than Texas. It is. It is huge. So I

809
00:50:55,400 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: get has that grid, but like I don't. I don't know.

810
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. Matt. You think there's some shenanigans in

811
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: the way this is being handled. Um, I don't know

812
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: if it's shenanigans. I think it's a scramble. Because if

813
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: you look at Arcot's website, they have videos of their

814
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: control room. It purports to be this, you know, highly

815
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: technical control room with all kinds of information, way too

816
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: much information for for the group to know what's going

817
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: on at all times with the grid and to forecast

818
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: what's going to occur. And they've there, I'm sure that

819
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: they're very, very good at that. They say there are

820
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: nine people at all times within that room monitoring the

821
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: grid across you know, all of Texas or at least

822
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: they use outside of El Paso in a few other places.

823
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: And you look at this stuff and you think, Okay,

824
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: they are forecasting how bad it's going to be. And

825
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: unless they you know, unless they turn the knob all

826
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: the way to s H t F, which would be

827
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: I guess, stuff hitting the fan. Um, they're not gonna

828
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 1: they're not gonna plan for this to happen, for it

829
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: to be this bad. Um, I don't really know where

830
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: I'm going with this other than it feels like a scramble, like,

831
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: oh crap, things are going wrong, Let's see what we

832
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: can do. And then you've got a company like Encore,

833
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: which is Encore Electric Delivery Company LLC. It reminds me

834
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: a lot of Georgia Power here in in Atlanta and

835
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 1: in Greater Georgia, where you will see Georgia Power employees out,

836
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, fixing, getting a tree off the road, fixing

837
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 1: a substation, getting a transformer back up and running. That's

838
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: what that company, at least to my understanding and from

839
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,479
Speaker 1: the reporting here, that's what they do. But I'm also

840
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of people hating on Encore for stuff.

841
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: But I honestly don't think it's their purview to go

842
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: out and fig you know, I don't think it's would

843
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: be their job to fix a natural gas plant. I

844
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: think that would be on the plant itself. So I

845
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: just I don't know that for sure. That's just my

846
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: understanding from what I'm reading through all these websites, and

847
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: they could be you know, the we're talking about an

848
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: energy rich state, which is one of the reasons Texas

849
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: was able to build this grid in the first place. Right, Uh,

850
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: what that means is that there are a lot of

851
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Speaker 1: organizations involved with specific aspects of of this whole, this

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Speaker 1: overall organism, if we want to call it that. And

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Speaker 1: then because they're multiple players involved, that also means that

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Speaker 1: people are necessarily or institutions excuse me, are necessarily going

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Speaker 1: to be somewhat territorial. So it may be the case

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Speaker 1: that some organizations really do want to help and get

857
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Speaker 1: stuff solved and probably have the competency in the skill

858
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Speaker 1: set to do it, but they can't because it's not

859
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Speaker 1: their turf. Like that's that that happens. That happens so often.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, Like I mean, in Georgia, we have options

861
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Speaker 1: for you know, you can go with Georgia Power, you

862
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: can go with um scan or whatever, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. Um but we have a Public Service Commission

864
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Speaker 1: that regulates rates and sort of keeps that under control,

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Speaker 1: and they're the only ones that can raise rates. But

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Speaker 1: there's also like a lot of former Georgia Power executives

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Speaker 1: that end up appointed to head up the Public Service Commission.

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Speaker 1: So there's kind of like a little bit of conflict

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Speaker 1: of interest in that situation. And Texas has what's called

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Speaker 1: the Public Utility Commission. But I'm wondering how does that

871
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Speaker 1: figure into all of this what we're talking about, if

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Speaker 1: it's sort of like its own thing. Well, the the COT,

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Speaker 1: the the Electric Reliability Council of Texas. They are a

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Speaker 1: nonprofit corporation, so like a five oh one C four,

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Speaker 1: they just according to their information, their government, a board

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Speaker 1: of directors. They're subject to oversight by the Public Utility

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Speaker 1: Commission of Texts and the Texas legislature. So they you know,

878
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: but but again, like the members of of this thing

879
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Speaker 1: of URCOTT are consumers, co ops, generators, power marketers, retail

880
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: electric providers, investor owned electric utilities, transmission and distribution providers.

881
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Speaker 1: These are a lot of words, by the way that

882
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Speaker 1: I swear, are meant to be a little difficult to

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Speaker 1: like get in. There's isn't there. I mean that these

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Speaker 1: are stakeholders would be the the other umbrella term for this.

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Speaker 1: But but you know, the average person is probably not

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Speaker 1: gonna understand what a power marketer is, uh and where

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Speaker 1: they're where their vig is right, what service did they provide?

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00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: What rent do they seek? This stuff? There there's a

889
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Speaker 1: lot of money because this is something that the species

890
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: is accustomed to having now, And it's very difficult to

891
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: take things from people when they are used to having them.

892
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: So it follows that people will accept almost any kind

893
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: of system so long as it seems normalized and provides

894
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: the things that they believe me their life normal. Shout out.

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Speaker 1: By the way, code Dame Doc Holiday was was telling

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Speaker 1: us that she actually drove across Texas when she was

897
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Speaker 1: on tour with a metal band who did not necessarily

898
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: have guitars made from human remains. Right. Uh, that's just

899
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: adds another point to our proof that our super producers

900
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: have these incredibly interesting, rich backstories. But so, Matt, Paul,

901
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: mission controls not here right now. I just want to

902
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: ask you plainly, just cards on the table. It's just you, me, Noel, Doc,

903
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: and millions of other people. Uh, why do you think

904
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Speaker 1: Paul did it? What do you think he crashed the grid?

905
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: Something about Applebee's. I don't know, you know what it is.

906
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: I think he resented Applebee's switching to iPad only ordering

907
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: um because I haven't even pre pandemic, you know. And

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Speaker 1: I think Paul really appreciated that personal touch of the

909
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: Appleby's Waite staff. Really felt like he was built just

910
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: a tiny update UH. A story that was published uh

911
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: today UM, referencing a meeting of the Public Utility Commission

912
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: of Texas that we talked about, which does have oversight

913
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Speaker 1: over this. Uh. This collective that you're talking about, matt um,

914
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Speaker 1: but is also staffed by a lot of big wigs

915
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Speaker 1: in the energy world. UM. They held an emergency meeting yesterday, UM,

916
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Speaker 1: where in order to it's the same thing that the

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Speaker 1: PSC does here in Georgia, they talk about setting rates

918
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Speaker 1: and there's a rake height and people you know, commiserate

919
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: about that. This specifically, they draft an order that said, uh, quote,

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Speaker 1: energy prices should reflect scarcity of the supply. If streamer

921
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: load is being shed, scarcity is at its maximum, and

922
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: the market price for the energy needed to serve that

923
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: load should also be at its highest. So you pay us.

924
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: But it's supply demand, guys, it's messed up, and it's capitalism.

925
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Speaker 1: Is a longer conversation, but for now, we just if

926
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Speaker 1: you're if you're in Texas, we hope you're okay if

927
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: you're hearing this. When you're hearing this, uh, and please

928
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: stay warm however you can, and remember the case of monopolies,

929
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: supply demand doesn't always apply the same way because you

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00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: can control the supply for something that will always have

931
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: this level of demand electricity, water, air. I'm telling you

932
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of money changing hands right, Stories like

933
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 1: this too. You look at and you can't tell me

934
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Speaker 1: that monopolies don't exist. Come on, it's more like it's

935
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 1: more like supplying the man right there was perfect. Also, Yeah,

936
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: you can say monopolies don't exist, but you will be

937
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: either wilfully lying to people or you will be wilfully naive. Again,

938
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Speaker 1: there's there's a thread going on our Facebook group. Here's

939
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 1: where it gets crazy. If you want to check that out,

940
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: whether you are in Texas yourself or you just want

941
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: to learn more firsthand from people. We've got. The thread

942
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: right now is really active and they're going into some

943
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Speaker 1: things that I think a lot of the larger media

944
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Speaker 1: outlets are not considering, maybe things that wouldn't occur to

945
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Speaker 1: you if you didn't live in the great state of Texas,

946
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Speaker 1: which which I miss it. It's just amazing that there's

947
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: something that big. It's crazy, yeah, and it's also so diverse,

948
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, because you have like your Dallas is and

949
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: your Austin. I mean Austin's sort of its own little

950
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: weird liberal hippie bast in. But even the time that

951
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Speaker 1: we spent there in Austin, there there there's a lot

952
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: of there's some kind of normies in Austin too, But yeah,

953
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: it's a very interesting landscape for sure physically and uh

954
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Speaker 1: in terms of just like the mindset of the people

955
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Speaker 1: that live there. Foods great too. Oh yeah, Hey, so again,

956
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: we hope you're okay there in Texas. Oh, what are

957
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: the other things we're talking? We hope if you've got

958
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Speaker 1: a guitar it isn't made out of a skeleton, or

959
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: if you've got a skeleton, it isn't a guitar, because really,

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01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: in my mind, you should keep those things separate. And

961
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: we we we hope that, uh, we hope that you

962
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: get back to us with your opinions on disclosure or beliefs.

963
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: And of course, as always, if you have a story

964
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Speaker 1: to share with us related to any of these things

965
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: we discussed, no matter how tangentially, or if you just

966
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Speaker 1: have a new topic idea that you believe your fellow

967
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Speaker 1: listeners would enjoy, we would love to hear from you.

968
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Speaker 1: I'd especially like to hear from anybody who is on

969
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Speaker 1: the ground in India right now during the pro test,

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Speaker 1: for example, let us know what's going on. You can

971
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: find us. As we said at the various internet outlets

972
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Speaker 1: were on Facebook. Here's where it gets crazy. That got

973
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Speaker 1: some special shout outs today because of the ongoing situation

974
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Speaker 1: in Texas. But if you don't care for the Internet,

975
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Speaker 1: you can also just give us a call directly. We

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Speaker 1: have a number and everything that's right. Our number is

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Speaker 1: Please leave a message. We're gonna tell you exactly how

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Speaker 1: to do it, all right. First things first, tell us

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Speaker 1: your name, if we can use it, and if it's

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Speaker 1: cool for us to play this thing on air, then

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Speaker 1: tell us your message. That's the best thing to do.

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Speaker 1: Try and keep it within you know, two minutes something

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Speaker 1: like that, and then afterwards, anything else you want to

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Speaker 1: say just personally to us, or you know, anything really

986
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Speaker 1: at all, say it at the end. What we mean

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Speaker 1: there is like, if there is something that you know

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Speaker 1: you don't necessarily want on the air, doesn't pertain to

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Speaker 1: the topic, but you just want to share it with us,

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Speaker 1: then just put that at the end. And if you've

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Speaker 1: got a longer story. We do have a three minute

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Speaker 1: limit on these, so if you have a longer story,

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Speaker 1: it's best to send it directly to us via email,

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Speaker 1: which will give you in a second. Absolutely, and Ben,

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Speaker 1: I want to say, I really I was trying to

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Speaker 1: to jump in and be a part of the fun.

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Speaker 1: And uh and and and tag and catalog some of

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Speaker 1: these voicemails and Ben, you would you would wiped out

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Speaker 1: the entire folder, my friend, I literally did three from today.

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Speaker 1: But now it's under control. Uh. And we're gonna each

1001
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Speaker 1: take our little shifts and keep it a little more manageable.

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Speaker 1: But then there are some really good ones in there.

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Speaker 1: I went through the list today, UM, just kind of

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Speaker 1: listening to a bunch of them, and man, you guys

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Speaker 1: have some amazing stories, that's right. And if you don't

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Speaker 1: want to do that stuff, there are other ways to

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Speaker 1: contact us. You can figure email, you'll find them, but

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Speaker 1: the easiest one. If you've got a long story, especially

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Speaker 1: or some a lot of details and links, go ahead

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