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Speaker 2: For me, I'm a man.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: be happy. You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 1: Edith Steak is that woof woof? And them and Tye.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the solid Burbo boys and girls. My

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Speaker 3: name is ty Hildenbrandt, joining me as always over there

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Speaker 3: beautiful Chicago. Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you? The birds

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Speaker 3: are shining or sun is shining? The birds are chirping?

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Speaker 1: It's a so I guess maybe the birds are shining

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Speaker 1: because the sun is shining upon them. So technically, are correct?

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Speaker 1: I'm all right, ty. I was unable to watch a

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Speaker 1: lot of football yesterday, but caught up this morning and

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Speaker 1: was up very bright and early. I have a a

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Speaker 1: nitrogen infused cold brew close through my veins. OK, so

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Speaker 1: technically I hit the NASE button, tie the NASE button

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Speaker 1: to activate the naws. And I said to myself, Dan,

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Speaker 1: this is what you need now. I watched everything that

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely look it up. It's from Trader Joe's

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Speaker 1: nitrogen infused cold brew. To pour a little strown, you

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Speaker 1: pocket that develops. I don't know, ty, come on, I

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Speaker 1: gotta B minus in Physics Tops Tops all right, but

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Speaker 1: I watched everything, and I have an in retrospect, a

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Speaker 1: retroactive Saturday nickname for you. You can say, no, that's stupid,

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Speaker 1: or yes, Dan, that even top Spirit Airlines Saturday. But

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Speaker 3: Huh, it's not bad.

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Speaker 1: I do like Okay, I'll take it. I'll take it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, of course, a big game that I'm just brimming

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Speaker 3: time reaction to what we saw happen in week ten.

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Speaker 3: Dance Skinny your Teeth Saturday has started off as a

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Speaker 1: Sure, cocktail party was wild, just the twists and turns

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Speaker 1: therein was incredible. The Pac twelve coming back not as

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Speaker 3: Indiana baby Indiana getting it done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Indiana, Indiana might win the Big Ten at this rate.

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Speaker 1: Hey trying, Dan It's Brittany from Sao Dan Hi.

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Speaker 5: This is Ray calling from all Bold. Hey guys, it's Jacob,

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Speaker 5: the lonely UCLA fan in Alabama Country. Dan Hi, Brendan

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Speaker 3: This is Michael calling from Boulder, Colorado.

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Speaker 5: Dan Ki.

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Speaker 6: This is Tanner and Raleigh. This weekend I watched my

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Speaker 5: Boise is not an actual state.

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Speaker 3: Dan Ki, this is Colton from an Iowa. That was

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Speaker 6: important lesson of all. You shot to win your clunkers fight.

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Speaker 5: On sun Devils, Exactly what did you do?

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Speaker 1: You had the lead and you blew it.

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Speaker 4: You pulled in Atlanta falcons on everybody stop it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Clay Hilton is the luckiest bad

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Speaker 4: Hi, it's change from Gainsville, Florida.

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Speaker 1: I've got a message that I sent to Kirby.

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Speaker 4: Smart, but I sent it on a wheel route, so

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Speaker 5: It, dan Ty. San Jose State just beat San Diego State.

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Speaker 3: The Spartans have three and oh for the first time

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Speaker 6: It's time to rank the Spartans.

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Speaker 5: Let's go Spartan up at JASP.

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Speaker 6: You the word of the day is shadens Freud watched

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Speaker 6: after big wins by the Hoosiers and Irish. Does the

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 6: The great State of Nevada may not be able to

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Speaker 4: Go Wolfpack.

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Speaker 6: I just finished a beer, but upon further review, I

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Speaker 6: Go Irish.

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Speaker 5: Hey Ty is an Aggie.

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Speaker 4: After the ninety two ninety three con Bowls, I never

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Speaker 3: Gorish. When your team doesn't get at back until the

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Speaker 5: Go Iris.

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Speaker 4: nineteen ninety three. Went on the roads the following weekend

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Speaker 4: Boston College on the road. I can enjoy this now

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Speaker 2: A Bacca fed.

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Speaker 4: I've always said.

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Speaker 5: I think I may need to restick that strategy that's

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Speaker 5: But tonight I could actually say that the Razorbacks.

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Speaker 3: Won one of their clunkers.

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Speaker 5: Go Hogs.

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Speaker 4: I think Sam Pittman should get a Coach of the Year.

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Speaker 4: I know Hugh Freeze is making noise with Liberty, but

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Speaker 3: We beat those bowls tonight.

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Speaker 1: Go Hogs, will Pigs two eat.

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Speaker 4: I'm coming, Hope, I've come Hope. Tell the world that

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Speaker 4: Bill O'Brien come back to Happy Valley.

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Speaker 3: DeShawn Corfford have a little sort of Christian Hackenberg.

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Speaker 3: All right, Dan, there you go, the fire, the passion.

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Speaker 3: A lot to discuss, mm hmmm. In weekend. We appreciate

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Speaker 3: for playing along. We got to start with Notre Dame

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Speaker 3: and Clemson. Dam, we got to start with Notre Dame

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Speaker 3: and Clemson. It was the big game of the evening.

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Speaker 1: To lash that digital audio field. Yeah, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Forty seven to forty is your final score went to

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Speaker 3: double overtime. A good football game the whole way through,

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Speaker 3: one of the best that we've seen so far this year.

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame led most of the way, if you didn't

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Speaker 3: I think the third quarter, Yeah, I don't know, whatever

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Speaker 3: Second quarter, thank you, so you know it seems like

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame gets one final bite at the apple. It

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame is able to conserve two of those timeouts.

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Speaker 1: And I think the fast start is important to mention too,

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Speaker 3: Like So it was just a really sound game plan

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Speaker 1: But this was well, we might find out, Ty, It's

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about Florida, Georgia. Not to be labor the

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Speaker 1: It's worth belaboring. It was an amazing game.

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Speaker 3: I expected that if Notre Dame one, it would look

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Speaker 1: It turns out on the Clemson side, by the way,

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Speaker 3: They were down early, actually, Georgia jumped out to a

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Speaker 1: got to hit the open guys, and that's that's the

439
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Speaker 1: distinction I know Stetson Bennett left with what a shoulder injury,

440
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Speaker 1: and Ac Sprain and Dwan Mathis came in, but neither

441
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: one of them were able to consistently see the open

442
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Speaker 1: dudes hit the open dudes. And it's I mean, I

443
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Speaker 1: guess credit Kirby Smart. He has tried to unearth every

444
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Speaker 1: possible quarterback to come into the Georgia program to improve things.

445
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: And the Jamie Newman opt out JT. Daniels might. I

446
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell's going on with him, and

447
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: you know, the from Fields thing still seems to haunt

448
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Speaker 1: the program and that decision. But Georgia just they don't

449
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: have the firepower. They don't have the manpower on offense

450
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Speaker 1: to be a top flight team right now. And Florida,

451
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Speaker 1: to their very specific credit, even with Kyle Pitts leaving

452
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Speaker 1: this game injured, it was just next man up. It

453
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Speaker 1: was Kadarius Tony, it was Trevon Grimes, it was Damian Pierce, like,

454
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Speaker 1: they just kept finding dudes. And Kyle Trask right now,

455
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Speaker 1: to me, I think he's my heisman front runner. I mean,

456
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Speaker 1: it might not well, just because Justin Fields hasn't played

457
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Speaker 1: the schedule yet. Just the number of games yet that

458
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Speaker 1: Kyle Trask right now, even in that losing effort, he

459
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Speaker 1: did not have a down game against Texas A and M,

460
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Speaker 1: and then to perform like he has performed now against

461
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Speaker 1: Georgia and Ole Miss and South whatever. I think I

462
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Speaker 1: am most impressed by Kyle Trask's season resume, just because

463
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Speaker 1: of the incomplete nature of obviously Trevor Lawrence and his

464
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Speaker 1: COVID status, and justin Fields being out and Cibo Flemster

465
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Speaker 1: not getting carries against I just wanted to say.

466
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Speaker 3: His name, Cibos.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look so that Yeah. I just I couldn't be

468
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Speaker 1: more impressed with the fact that we came from looking

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Speaker 1: at Kyle Trask's arm and saying like, well, he's accurate

470
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Speaker 1: and he completes passes, but they's so soft. And now

471
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Speaker 1: it's still pretty soft, and he keeps completing passes against

472
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Speaker 1: great defenses. So Florida now in the driver's seat in

473
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Speaker 1: the SEC East, and I can't imagine because of that

474
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Speaker 1: defense that Florida is able to beat Alabama and their weaponry.

475
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Speaker 1: But they're closer than I thought they'd be.

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Speaker 3: They're closer. I agree with you. Then maybe we thought

477
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Speaker 3: and Kyle, like I said, Kyle Trask just very clearly

478
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Speaker 3: has full commanded this offense, and it's striking to watch

479
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 3: where Florida was at last year, had a good offense,

480
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 3: had room to grow. But to see now them doing

481
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Speaker 3: more complex things on the offensive side of the ball

482
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Speaker 3: with his level of confidence, it's it's really impressive. And

483
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Speaker 3: like you said, his next man up. It doesn't matter

484
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Speaker 3: how hard he throws, as long as he gets it

485
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Speaker 3: where it needs to go. There are a lot of

486
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Speaker 3: big plays in this game on the Florida side. They

487
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Speaker 3: really took advantage of those chunk plays and that was

488
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Speaker 3: ultimately what took down Georgia. Here it should be smooth

489
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Speaker 3: sailing for the Gators until the SEC Championship. We can't

490
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Speaker 3: take anything for granted, especially in a goofy year. And

491
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Speaker 3: maybe we shouldn't sleep on Arkansas. I don't know the

492
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Speaker 3: revenge of Felipe Franks, right, but yeah, for sure Arkansas Vandy,

493
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Speaker 3: Kentucky Tennessee and LSU the rest of the way. Compared

494
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Speaker 3: to what we thought at the start of the year,

495
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Speaker 3: that feels a lot more workable now.

496
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Speaker 1: So we'll see good character performance by the way going

497
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Speaker 1: down fourteen to nothing like that and just like, no,

498
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Speaker 1: we're cool. We're gonna bring our own monsoon in the

499
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Speaker 1: second quarter, It's all good.

500
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Speaker 3: PAC twelve or PAC eight was in action. We had

501
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Speaker 3: four games between Oregon and Stanford, USC and ASU, Colorado

502
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Speaker 3: and UCLA and Wazoo and Oregon State, Arizona and Utah.

503
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Speaker 3: Washington and Cow were both canceled. Dan, where do you

504
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Speaker 3: want to start?

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Speaker 1: In the PAC twelve USC ASU with that nine am

506
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 1: local kick was USC winning and a losing effort. That's

507
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: my new operative phrase because it just seems to be

508
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: so common this fall. USC really looked disjointed on offense

509
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: for long stretches of this game, and you know, the turnovers,

510
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: the inability to consistently run the ball or throw the ball,

511
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Speaker 1: whatever it was. And then slowly Keaton slow has found

512
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Speaker 1: his rhythm. They're able to run a little bit, they

513
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Speaker 1: get the you know, Drake London's just an absolute dude.

514
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Speaker 1: And I always hesitate when there is a guy with

515
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Speaker 1: receiver skills who is the size of a tight end,

516
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Speaker 1: because it can feel like a lot of teams don't

517
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: know exactly how to use a tweeener like that. USC

518
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: has figured out how to use Drake London and he

519
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: had the game winning touchdown. He made plays. They had

520
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: that tip touchdown catch against ASU, and to ASU's credit,

521
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Speaker 1: they ran the hell out of the ball, both with

522
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Speaker 1: the running backs and with Jayden Daniels. And they lose

523
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Speaker 1: Frank Darby, their stud number one receiver early and it

524
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: didn't seem to make an enormous difference. It was just

525
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: a mistake filled game offense, defense, special teams. And for

526
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Speaker 1: USC to score what two touchdowns in the final buck

527
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Speaker 1: forty of this game, including with the assistance of an

528
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: onside kick, just absolutely dreadful onside kick coverage from ASU.

529
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I saw.

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine what the U I saw one postgame

531
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: win expectancy set up like ninety nine point ninety nine

532
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Speaker 1: for ASU. Yeah, it was a it was a dual clunker,

533
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: and so whoever was going to win this game was

534
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: going to win their clunker. I can't believe USC pulled

535
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: that out. I cannot believe down twenty seven to thirteen

536
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: late they were just like, well, we'll see what happens,

537
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: and they did it, and.

538
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Speaker 3: Dying am unbelievable of the game. Yeah, Keaton Slovis and

539
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: some magic brings USC back and like you said we

540
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: were interested in this game because of the early kickoff.

541
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Speaker 3: It was the big noon game on Fox, but more

542
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 3: like big nine am on the West Coast. Guys are

543
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: getting up at five am, and it definitely seemed like

544
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: it took at least a quarter for some of the

545
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Speaker 3: kids to wake up here. Yeah, and it was sobby.

546
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Speaker 3: This is why you take the points, frankly, in a

547
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Speaker 3: game such as this. Let's talk about your Oregon Ducks.

548
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 3: They win by three touchdowns thirty five to fourteen over

549
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: the Stanford Cardinal. Was fairly close at halftime, but Oregon

550
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: pulled away in the third quarter. What was your general

551
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 3: takeaway here, Dan? I know Oregon was what about an

552
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: eleven point favorite, Yeah, something like that going into this

553
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 3: football game, So there were a double digit favorite. They

554
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: were expected to win. But it was obviously the first

555
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 3: action we've seen of the Ducks this year. Are they,

556
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Speaker 3: in your mind, the top dog, top duck, top whatever

557
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: in the Pac twelve this season?

558
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, they are. I mean that It's an incomplete

559
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: statement though, because we haven't seen cal or wash Ington

560
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: or Utah or what USC is going to look like

561
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: a little bit further down the road. But in terms

562
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: of coming out the first week and establishing themselves as that. Yeah,

563
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: the offense with a new quarterback, new line, new coordinator,

564
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: it took some time to warm up, and it certainly

565
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: helps when the opposing offense is without their starting quarterback

566
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: and stud receiver in Davis Mills and Cam Weddington. That

567
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: was announced about an hour before the game, so Stanford

568
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: had trouble, especially through the air. Consistently. They ran the

569
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: ball pretty well. The line is a lot healthier than

570
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: it was for much of last year, but Oregon against

571
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,959
Speaker 1: a team that slows the ball down, slows down their

572
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: drives in Stanford and Oregon didn't generate turnovers and so

573
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Speaker 1: to score thirty five on nine possessions without any turnovers,

574
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: without any short fields, with a new offense which looked

575
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: a good deal more creative. Tyler Schuck certainly made a

576
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: couple of mistakes and a couple of really bad throws

577
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: down the middle of the field, but Oregon looks to

578
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: be throwing the ball downfield a lot more. Tyler Shuck

579
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: seems to be pretty fearless. They're running Tyler Shuck more

580
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: than they ever did. Just and Herbert. The running backs

581
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: played well. They were down a couple of starters on

582
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Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, and the guys that stepped

583
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: in played magnificently. DJ Johnson, who was Miami transfer defensive

584
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: end he's now was the starting tight end for Oregon.

585
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: He switched positions and he made some noise. So Oregon

586
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: really just it was it was a crock potting, I guess,

587
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: because they just stepped on the gas on the ground

588
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: largely in the second half. But Oregon in a really

589
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: nice place as the game evolved. They looked a lot

590
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: more comfortable in the offense, and schedule should be fine

591
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: all things considered. Within the conference, Oregon is the favorite

592
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: to repeat if they are going to keep growing like

593
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: they did over the course of this game.

594
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Speaker 3: The other two games in the PAC twelve very quickly.

595
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 3: We had Colorado Dan break up. There, buffs break them up.

596
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: At one point they're up thirty five seven. You and

597
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: I were texting the eyes of moojis to one another,

598
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: like what the hell is going on?

599
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: And we do that anyway, But do that anyway? This

600
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: time was about this.

601
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this was one that definitely caught us by surprise.

602
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: Ucla gets one before half, then they go on a

603
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: bit of a charge very quickly, pulling within one touchdown

604
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: about midway through the third quarter, back and forth from

605
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: there on out. But ultimately Colorado is able to hold

606
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: them off and get a wind in. This is a game,

607
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 3: I think, if memory serves, when we talked about it,

608
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: we're like, yeah, we don't really think that highly of Colorado.

609
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: Ucla has got some dudes. Maybe we should just lock

610
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: them up. We didn't, neither one of us lock them up,

611
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 3: but no, we felt we felt a lot differently when

612
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: we did the Wednesday previews show than obviously we do now.

613
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ucla made a ton of mistakes, four turnovers early on.

614
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: They go down thirty five seconds thirty five to seven

615
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: in the first half. Colorado sam Noyer a reverse Tanner McAvoy.

616
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: You won't get that reference anywhere else. He goes from

617
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: safety to quarterback instead of the Tanner McAvoy direction at

618
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and is good. The story is really how Colorado

619
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: is able to run the ball, spread it around a

620
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: little bit. It was I think Brossard was the running

621
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Speaker 1: back who stepped in. I'm verifying this right now. I

622
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: think it's Jaquari Brossard big and yeah, as I mean

623
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Speaker 1: as Ucla goes. I suppose, like, what are you supposed

624
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: to do if you're a UCLA fan, where this is like, well,

625
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: Colorado's winnable. No, it's just it's just it's it's not

626
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: dtr was fine, made plays, wasn't especially prolific down the

627
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: field at quarterback for UCLA. But I mean, once again,

628
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Ucla defeats UCLA and Colorado's happy to take advantage. And

629
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the rest of the buff season

630
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: looks like. But maybe maybe we got it wrong. Maybe

631
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Speaker 1: it was Colorado looking at UCLA and saying, well, this

632
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: one's winnable.

633
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 3: And the final game in the Pac twelve we had

634
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Speaker 3: Wazoo thirty eight on the road over Oregon State. Yeah,

635
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:53,719
Speaker 3: twenty eight.

636
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: Then this is the by the way, de Laura, Yeah,

637
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: new Era in Wazoo, New aeron Wazoo. I think it

638
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: was McIntosh as the last name of the running back

639
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: who trounced Oregon State. Dion McIntosh was so fun to watch.

640
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: Bigger dude runs hard. Jaden DeLaura, true freshman from Hawaii

641
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 1: came in, does not have the biggest arm. This might

642
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: be one of your new pop gun heroes, but as

643
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: a playmaker was impressive, had poise for a true freshman

644
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: looking forward to like. He definitely seems like a folk

645
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: hero in the making for Wazoo. Well, I don't know why.

646
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: He just he was fun to watch and it's just

647
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: a new era of Wazoo football and Oregon State seem fine.

648
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: I like Jamar Jefferson. I don't think Tristan Jebia gives

649
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: them a hugely high ceiling. Happy to be wrong, but

650
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: as long as Jonathan Smith is there, they're going to

651
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: scheme themselves competitive in this conference.

652
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Speaker 3: Speaking of pop gun heroes, let's talk about Indiana thirty

653
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Speaker 3: eight Michigan twenty one. Dan, Now, we had I thought

654
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Speaker 3: you're going Sean Clifford. Continue, Well, we'll get to Sean Clifford.

655
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Speaker 3: We had a lengthy discussion on one of our episod

656
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: so last week they all run together. At this point,

657
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: I don't even know. I don't even know about who

658
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: is the second best team in the Big Ten East.

659
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: You were adamant that it was Michigan State. No, I

660
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: said it could be adamant. Dan, you said you were

661
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: going to tattoo it on your arm. You're very this Yeah,

662
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: my Ronnie White tramp stamp that's right, Ricky White. Yeah,

663
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: and I was pretty out of it about Indiana. Indiana

664
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Speaker 3: wins this one. Thirty eight, twenty one. Michael Penick against

665
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Speaker 3: Michigan to be clear, Yeah, against Michigan. Thank you, Yeah,

666
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 3: Michael pen Michigan State. Maybe the best lefty pop gun

667
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: hero since Bryant Manese himself. What thirty I don't think good, No,

668
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 3: you don't think so.

669
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Speaker 1: I don't think Penis has a pop gun arm. I

670
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: think I think he's got more than pop No, I

671
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: don't think he's got a cannon. I'll hold it up

672
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: on you Howitzer, pull it up on YouTube.

673
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: Fully spin it. But he definitely can't spin. Touch tie

674
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: a lot of touch on those throws. Okay, you're being

675
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: very kind. But he had himself a game thirty to

676
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 3: fifty three, forty two sort of cruise to victory here, Dan,

677
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 3: like nothing all that dramatic about it. Michigan held to

678
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: three of eleven on third downs, had a bunch of penalties,

679
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: just twenty one minutes of possession. Son Haskins ran for

680
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: what nineteen yards? He led to toughing Like, we've seen enough, Dan,

681
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 3: this is not gonna be a great Michigan football team

682
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: this season. Whenever they're trying to build the entire plane

683
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Speaker 3: out of Joe Milton, hold On TI has his Michigan

684
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: projection when they're trying to build the whole thing out

685
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 3: of Joe Milton, the same way that Kerk Chieraka and

686
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 3: Penn State are trying to build the whole thing out

687
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Speaker 3: of Sean Clifford. Apparently, and in neither case is that

688
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: going to yield positive results. Nonetheless, here we are with Indiana. Now,

689
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: INDI wey had to looking good, looking strong. They don't

690
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: necessarily need to be this juggernaut to I think be

691
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: far and away the second best team in the Big

692
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Speaker 3: Ten East. Not gonna beat Ohio State, They're going to

693
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 3: fight them for maybe a quarter mm hmm, but second

694
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 3: best in the Big Ten East. If you're Tom Allen,

695
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: this is something you've been working for for a long time.

696
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: To beat a Michigan team, to beat a Penn State

697
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 3: team the same year, that's a hell of a season.

698
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 3: I don't care if it's goofy, I don't care if

699
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 3: there's a pandemic. I don't he know what the circumstances are.

700
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: This is not a common thing for Indiana football and

701
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Speaker 3: A'll do credit to.

702
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: Them, absolutely, I'll do credit. Indiana's a real team. They

703
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: are a good team. They're a real team. I don't

704
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: know what their ceiling is, but to come out and

705
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: beat Michigan and Penn State deeply flawed Michigan Penn State teams,

706
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: who cares. Yeah, a good team beats flawed teams and

707
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: takes advantage of those flawed situations. And whether it was

708
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Speaker 1: Michael Pennix, whether it was by the way, Wop Filier

709
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: and was it Tie, it was Wopper and Fry, It's

710
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: Fry Fogel. I believe, tough name to say, but yeah,

711
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: Whopper and Fries. I'm the last person to make that,

712
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: but I'm proud to be in the group. He was sensational.

713
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: The Michigan defense, I don't know where it went. And

714
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: I know they're beat up. I know that they've lost

715
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: a lot over the years, but they've recruited well. And

716
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: the lack of pressure on Michael Pennix. The secondary just

717
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: has always been populated by dudes, and it's just not

718
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: It is just not right now. And I'll do credit

719
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: again to Indiana, And on offense, You're right about the

720
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: Joe Milton thing. And good. Joe milton passes are great.

721
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: Joe Milton's absolute ceiling, like his throws, like I know

722
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: he had a couple of deeper touchdown passes, those like

723
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: seven and a half quarterbacks who can make those passes

724
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: in college football, Like he's his ceiling is sensational. The

725
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: problem is his floor is also like everything is holy

726
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: schnitt and in a good or bad way. Because his

727
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: interceptions were ugly, We're absolutely ugly and on him his

728
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: faults and absolutely change the complexion of this game. I

729
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: don't know what to think about Michigan beyond. I don't

730
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: know if it's run its course. I don't know if

731
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: that we're pouring dirt. We're shoveling dirt on this era

732
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: of Michigan football. But it's not heading in a direction

733
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: that makes sense.

734
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: When are we going to start hearing Harball to the

735
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: NFL rumors? Have they started yet?

736
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: Three weeks ago?

737
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: Three weeks ago? When are we going to start hearing him?

738
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 3: When's that drumbeat going to go and get a little

739
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 3: bit louder, because that's where this is headed.

740
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: It's going to get louder when they lose to another

741
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: team that they are vastly more talented than and they

742
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: discover that, oh, this interesting name is interested in the Michigan.

743
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: I think there is a real risk of making a

744
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: move like any kind of drastic coaching change. Oh, they

745
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 3: shouldn't get rid of Jim HARBAUGHDT in this era of

746
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: the pandemic. Now, if Harball wants to go else that's

747
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: a separate thing. But I know I've read things about like, oh,

748
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: maybe they should get rid of Horbaw, maybe they should

749
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 3: get rid of James Franklin. And I think the risk

750
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 3: of doing it this year where there is really just

751
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 3: such a slim margin for caring and not caring, given circumstances,

752
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 3: you know, guys opting out and just circumstances being weird.

753
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: Everyone gets another year of eligibility if they want it. Like,

754
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 3: there's just a bunch of competing factors. This is anything

755
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: but a normal year, and I just I have a

756
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 3: hard time run.

757
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: I still think people are going to take the fall.

758
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: I think assistance coordinators is an opposition. I think they're

759
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: going to take undue falls, probably in some cases do falls,

760
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: but I think that's what we're going to see.

761
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 3: Well, we talked about Indiana. Congratulations to them big win.

762
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 3: Your second team in the Big Tennis was Michigan State.

763
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 3: They were down thirty five mil at half.

764
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: It happens, It happens at half.

765
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 3: Now, I told you, I warned you in advance that

766
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 3: Vegas was kind of like speaking to us, you know,

767
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: and a half was the line here. It didn't feel right.

768
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: It felt like too much, especially after what we saw

769
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: the previous week from Michigan State.

770
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Speaker 1: Yeah, who, buddy thirty five.

771
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 3: I didn't know Iowa had it in him.

772
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: I should know better. A letdown spot in Iowa City.

773
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: That is on me, ty, that is Yeah. No matter

774
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: how disappointing Iowa might look during a season, if you're

775
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: coming off of a rivalry win, an unexpected rivalry win,

776
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: and you're traveling to Iowa City, mark me down for

777
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, just rolling with the Hawkeyes no matter what.

778
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: Forty nine to seven Michigan State loses this game.

779
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: This is more of a commentary on the Michigan Wolverines

780
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: probably than anything in the end. And by the way

781
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: Iowa played creatively. They ran out of the shotgun, they

782
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: had jet sweep action, they made plays downfield, they did

783
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: a lot of play action. Spencer Petros was fine. He

784
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: was above average at times. Iowa was creative, and yes

785
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 1: it's Michigan State had another deeply flawed Big Ten team.

786
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: But this is what decent teams do.

787
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 3: Finally, speaking of decent teams, I don't know if we

788
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: have one in this matchup between Maryland and Penn State,

789
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: but I'm more likely to say it's Maryland and Penn State.

790
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: Dan oh Boy thirty five to seven after three quarters

791
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: in favor of the Terrapins. Should we do we jinx

792
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 3: Kirk shiako with this?

793
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 6: Kirk?

794
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 3: Should we just retire the sound and see if we

795
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 3: could pawn off that domain to his family.

796
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have to take a break. We're

797
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: gonna have to take a sharraka shabbatical. I'm very dumb.

798
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: I cannot believe that the game plan here was to

799
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 3: have Sean Clifford throw the ball fifty seven times.

800
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: I can't imagine.

801
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 3: There is no way they came into this game thinking,

802
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 3: you know we're gonna do We're gonna we're gonna surprise him.

803
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 3: Why don't we throw at fifty seven times? Clifford not

804
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 3: the best approach. Clearly that was not the game plan.

805
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: Maybe Maryland's the second best team in the East. I

806
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 3: don't know, but Talia tungua Iloa looked pretty good in

807
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: this game. The consecutive games now where he looked really

808
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 3: strong two eighty two and three touchdowns. Again, a veritable

809
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 3: tire fire here in the Big Ten East. I think

810
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: it is probably Indiana at this point. I don't know

811
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 3: who's next.

812
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: Frankly, I enjoyed the payoff of Mike Loxley knows the

813
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: DMV when he pulled for Kim Jarrett, the five star receiver,

814
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: not a huge dude, kind of slight and pulled him

815
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: to Maryland over major major programs across the country. And

816
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: Maryland's game plan against Penn State was we should get

817
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: it to this fast, unstoppable dude, maybe in space. And

818
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: they got it to Kim Jarrett and he was unketchable

819
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: and was fantastic. Oz was as was Dante DIMIs and

820
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: Maryland has had recent good receiving duos. But now it

821
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: appears Talia tonga Iloa is not a converted linebacker trying

822
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: to throw to them, or Tyrol peg Rum or Casimo

823
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: any of these guys who would flash now t Lea

824
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: Tanngo Vailoa. Maybe this early part of the season is

825
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: the flash, but it's ongoing and so he's been impressive.

826
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: He finds the open dudes he has. He throws with confidence,

827
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Speaker 1: especially after that ugly, ugly lost Northwestern to open up

828
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: the season. Good year to be interesting in the Big

829
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: Ten because not a ton of teams are fear that turtle.

830
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: Elsewhere in the Big Ten. To round things out, we

831
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 3: had Ohio State really big over Rutgers. They're up thirty

832
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: five to three and a half. We had Minnesota forty

833
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: one to fourteen over Illinois. And we had Northwestern, your

834
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: Northwestern Wildcats, Dan unduh beat it twenty one to thirteen. Yeah,

835
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 3: over Nebraska. Any thoughts there.

836
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: Northwestern looks like the Northwestern of old, which is a

837
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: good thing, Ben, But don't break, you know, smother Nebraska

838
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: a little bit and on offense, do just enough, take

839
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: some chances occasionally, which Northwestern was able to do. And

840
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: Peyton rams Peyton Ramsey wasn't amazing, but he was fine

841
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: and fine as compared to what Northwestern looked like at

842
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: quarterback last year. Is light years is light years, a time,

843
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: a distance thing, whatever, it is light years in the

844
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: correct direction.

845
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 3: It's the distance that light travels in one year.

846
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I think it applies if there's an astrophysics astrophysicists

847
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: astrophysicist at Northwestern who wants to correct me. That's cool.

848
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 3: Moving on over to the big twelve.

849
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it. Okay.

850
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State twenty k State eighteen.

851
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Speaker 1: Do you have a drive chart you'd like to read for?

852
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 4: This? Is this?

853
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Speaker 6: I can?

854
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: I can pull it up. Do you want me to?

855
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: I think you should, because a talk about it as

856
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: I pull it up.

857
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 3: This was just an ugly offensive game. There are a

858
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 3: million punts. They're playing for field position. Oklahoma State without

859
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: Tyland Wallace and to some extent without Chewba Hubbard. He

860
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: was slowed down a bit by an injury. The Pokes

861
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 3: trailed twelve nothing at half. Took them until the waning

862
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 3: seconds of the third quarter to kick a field goal

863
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 3: to go up on top thirteen to twelve. They eventually

864
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: tack on a touchdown midway through the fourth to get

865
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 3: it to twenty to twelve. But case State scores a

866
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: late touchdown, they go for two to tie it up.

867
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 3: They do not convert. That's how you get a weird

868
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: twenty to eighteen final score. But the takeaway from me here,

869
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: Dan Is, I have spent what is it now, November.

870
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: I've spent three to four months talking up Spencer Sanders,

871
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: talking up on this what this offense can do if

872
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: they've got the three headed monster available of Spencer Sanders,

873
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: Tiland Wallace, and Chewba Hubbard. Now that didn't really, that

874
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: wasn't a thing in this game, right, Like some of

875
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 3: those guys were out. Spencer Sanders threw for one hundred yards.

876
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 3: One hundred yards.

877
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 4: Yep.

878
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: Apparently it is on me. Apparently it is on me.

879
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 4: M hm.

880
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: I'm not the only one, but I put a little

881
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: bit too much faith in this thing. Oklahoma State's still

882
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 3: going to be very good. They've got a solid defense

883
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 3: that's going to take them places in the Big Twelve.

884
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: Whether or not they win the conference I think depends

885
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 3: somewhat on can they get more out of that offense.

886
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 3: But that aside, I came away from this game wholeheartedly

887
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 3: unimpressed by Oklahoma State. And that is not meant to

888
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 3: take anything away from k State. Because this is the

889
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: game that Case State wanted to play against Oklahoma State.

890
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: They wanted to dirty it up, they wanted it to

891
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 3: be a battle of field position and time of possession

892
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 3: and see if they can get a break to go

893
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 3: their way. And they led for a good chunk of

894
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: this game. This is exactly the kind of game they

895
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 3: needed to play in order to win this football game,

896
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 3: knowing their own deficiencies. But m hm, it's you know,

897
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong Oklahoma State people who listen

898
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 3: to this show. I was wholeheartedly unimpressed by what we

899
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 3: saw out there yesterday because not only was Oklahoma State

900
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 3: my lock of the like your lock, we both felt

901
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 3: pretty confident about them in this game. I'm over to

902
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 3: that part of it. I just I constantly want to

903
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 3: see more from this team, and we've just only seen

904
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: it in a few select spots so far this season.

905
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, when you're clunkers, absolutely win your clunkers,

906
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: because case State probably isn't scoring twenty seven points on

907
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: offense as it's led by Will Howard at least right now,

908
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: as green as he is.

909
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 3: But the thing about the clunkers, though, yes, everybody has them,

910
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 3: everybody has them. They're inevitable, but you reach a certain

911
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 3: point where it feels like you're sort of creating your

912
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 3: own clunkers. Right you're shooting yourself in the foot to

913
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: some extent, and you're putting it. You're making it much

914
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 3: harder for yourself to move forward.

915
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: And we are in my life times.

916
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, that that is where Oklahoma State's at at

917
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 3: this point. It's damn frustrated.

918
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

919
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: No, They're probably going to end up wasting a very

920
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: strong defense and you hate to see it. I think

921
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: bedlam is Bedlam next week or is there a bye

922
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: week before? I think there's a by way before bedlam,

923
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 1: and that's going to go a long way as to

924
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,479
Speaker 1: determine the top of the Big Twelve because with Iowa

925
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: State coming back and winning, if Oklahoma State goes down

926
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, yeah, Iowa State with their tiebreaker over the

927
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: Sooners is in like real clean control of the conference

928
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: once again because they don't have the breaker against Oklahoma State.

929
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: So all sorts of implications. So I suppose good for

930
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State for pushing it forward another week. But you're

931
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: right that the expectation of that offense based on those

932
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: glimpses of Spencer Sanders, who had a flawed first year

933
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: as a starting quarterback. I don't think we're un reasonable

934
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: given what they return, which you mentioned, but it does

935
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: also feel like the yep I had a birdie on

936
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: this par three because I put it eight feet from

937
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: the pin. I should be doing this all the time,

938
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: and you just don't. Just don't. The expectation is a

939
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: little bit too high considering last year's inconsistency and this

940
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: year's inconsistency injuries context. All of that, of course included all.

941
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: Right, you know what, save the drive chart. We've got

942
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 3: another one here that we can do it for.

943
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm ready with the Divorzac and I have an

944
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: iPhone twelve now, so great. Okay, the audio sound coming

945
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: out is going to be robust. We've got another one

946
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: here that we can that we can do this one with.

947
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: But it's coming up in a little bit, Okay.

948
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: Elsewhere in the Big twelve, we had Texas good showing

949
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 3: by their defense seventeen thirteen over West Virginia. A lot

950
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 3: to like with what we've seen from the defense over

951
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: the last two weeks. The defense, now, because that was

952
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,479
Speaker 3: at least in the early going, a real open question

953
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: for Texas. Right they're bringing Chris Ash, they got to

954
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 3: get better at tackling. Didn't look like they had gotten

955
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: better at tackling for a while, but this was a

956
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 3: good showing by the defense. If you take anything away

957
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 3: from this win over West Virginia seventeen thirteen is a

958
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 3: close game anyway you slice it, but the defense definitely

959
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 3: looked better the last two weeks. And Jean Robinson, who

960
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 3: I think after all of this hand ringing over, what

961
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: is the Texas rushing attack going to look like?

962
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 5: Now?

963
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 4: Like?

964
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 3: Who who's the guy is a keyante ingram? Who can

965
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 3: we trust? Maybe it's Bejon Robinson. He had a really

966
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,360
Speaker 3: good game here. Twelve carries one hundred and thirteen yards.

967
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 3: I think if he's more of a focal point. If

968
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 3: we take anything away from this game, that would be

969
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 3: really good output for the Longhorns.

970
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: Had the really impressive longer run, had the great sort

971
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: of spin and stiff arm. I don't know if you

972
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: saw that down the left side. Unfortunately for anybody watching

973
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: this game, it was a game decided like four yards

974
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: at a time. Otherwise, uh. Sam Ellinger made a couple

975
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: of plays, but he has his own accuracy issues. Jared

976
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: Dagy made plays, but it was a lot of nickel

977
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: and diming stuff, and Texas wisely said we're just not

978
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: going to let West Virginia beat us on the ground.

979
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: Jareddiggy can if Jared Dagy can beat us, you know,

980
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: hats off to Jared Dggy and he was not able

981
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: to as close as it was. And I think the

982
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: focus should be on Texas's defense, how well they were

983
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: able to get to him, how well they performed it.

984
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: It was a thorough performance aside from Texas with the

985
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: ball without Bjohn Robinson. Who in Texas without Keanta Ingram

986
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: and they're still able to roll on the ground. It

987
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: was sort of down game West Virginia coming off of

988
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: their impressive win against Kansas State, Texas coming off of

989
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: that emotional win over Oklahoma State. So it was bound

990
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: to be a little bit lackluster and dusty. But I

991
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 1: suppose good for Texas. I don't feel I don't feel

992
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 1: better about either one of these teams in any sort

993
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: of meaningful way. But you know, except for Texas on

994
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: defense now becomes a little bit more interesting in that

995
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 1: step forward the other action.

996
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: In the Big twelve, we had Iowa State thirty eight,

997
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: Baylor thirty one. There were six turnovers in this game,

998
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 3: four by Iowa State.

999
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, Iowa State, in a losing effort, wins this game.

1000
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 3: Preece solid one, very good again, won thirty three two touchdowns.

1001
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: Brock Purty not his best effort, but they win the

1002
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: game thirty eight thirty one. Oklahoma big over Kansas sixty

1003
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 3: two to nine, and TCU thirty four to eighteen over

1004
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: Texas Tech ten. Any thoughts on those three.

1005
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: Strange strange TCU Texas Tech game. Max Duggan couldn't throw,

1006
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: but he could run. Really ugly first half for Iowa State,

1007
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: but good for good for Baylor, I suppose for taking

1008
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: advantage early, but the Baylor offense is still pretty fatally

1009
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: flawed and Iowa State able to pull it out in

1010
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: the end. Did you mention anything else? Did you say

1011
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 1: Oklahoma Kansas or was that earlier?

1012
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 4: No?

1013
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 3: I said sixty two to nine, Oklahoma over Kansas and

1014
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 3: TCU thirty four to thirty four to eighteen. Excuse me

1015
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: over Texas Tech.

1016
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1017
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: I don't have too many thoughts. Spencer Ratler left this

1018
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: game right at a certain point. I don't know what

1019
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: his health status is. I think he's okay. I think

1020
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: I would have heard otherwise, But once again it was

1021
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's Kansas, but good for Oklahoma for keeping

1022
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: the momentum on the ground going because ultimately that's going

1023
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 1: to decide their ceiling this year and beyond. I still

1024
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: think all right, And moving on to the acc acc

1025
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: had a day. Liberty thirty eight Virginia Tech thirty five.

1026
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 1: You see the end of this game, what a dagger.

1027
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 3: So if you didn't watch it, the game's tied thirty

1028
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 3: five thirty five, Liberty is lined up for a game

1029
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 3: winning fifty one yard field goal. What do you do, Dan,

1030
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: you're justin Fuentev or any coach, what do you do?

1031
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 3: Opponent lining up? Big kick on the way. You've got

1032
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 3: a timeout to burn?

1033
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 4: What do you do?

1034
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 3: You burn the timeout?

1035
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm not big on icing now.

1036
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 3: Some are, some aren't. Some like to do it early,

1037
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,359
Speaker 3: some like to do it late.

1038
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 4: I don't know. Let it.

1039
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: I think it equally lets them gather themselves and calm themselves.

1040
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: The kickers Virginia Tech decides they're going to do the

1041
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: late timeout. I'm really try and get get in the

1042
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: kid's head.

1043
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 3: They block the kick. They do indeed block the kick,

1044
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 3: seemingly unaware of the fact that there was a timeout

1045
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 3: that's been called play the game, Block the kick, run

1046
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 3: it back for an apparent game winning touchdown, Everyone's going crazy,

1047
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,439
Speaker 3: only to find out that the timeout had been called

1048
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 3: prior to the snap. So naturally, naturally, Liberty gets another

1049
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: bite at the apple. They drill the kick one second left.

1050
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 3: They end up winning the game thirty eight. The only

1051
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 3: other interesting anecdote here is that both quarterbacks finished with

1052
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 3: exactly two hundred and seventeen passing yards and three touchdowns.

1053
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 3: But you know, Liberty was ranked going into this game.

1054
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 3: They were ranked undefeated. Yeah, they were ranked team. I

1055
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 3: think we both took points here. I don't know if

1056
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 3: either of us felt particularly strongly about Virginia Tech, but wow,

1057
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 3: what a way to lose, huh.

1058
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: Not idea, Well, they lost in more ways than just

1059
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: that single play. If what was the spread was double

1060
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: digits ish something like that for Virginia Tech as a favorite,

1061
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: I'll go back and check to give up what they

1062
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 1: gave up, specifically to Malik Willis, and they lose Khalil

1063
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: Herbert I believe, on the opening kickoff, so he didn't

1064
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 1: play essentially in this game. Virginia Tech was still able

1065
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: to run the ball well, it just albeit with Hendon

1066
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: Hooker just not a running back really contributing to this

1067
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: game in a meaningful way.

1068
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,240
Speaker 3: Fifteen and a half, by the way, was the one.

1069
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: Fifteen and a half. Okay, so I believe Liberty covered. Yes,

1070
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: Liberty covered. Virginia Tech has a ways to go on defense.

1071
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech still, and it's very strange to say this,

1072
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: but this is a new era of Hoky football. They

1073
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: did everything that they should have done essentially. I mean,

1074
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: there were mistakes made on offense, but you score thirty five,

1075
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: you should have a decent chance of winning a game

1076
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: against Liberty when you have that sort of talent advantage

1077
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: and you have Hendon Hooker, who is you know, I

1078
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 1: think largely a very very good quarterback, both in the

1079
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: conference and nationally. I still I am a big believer

1080
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: in him. That defense needs it needs dudes, and needs

1081
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: probably it needs to get like twenty five to forty

1082
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: percent better for Virginia Tech to be truly dangerous against

1083
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: anybody elsewhere in the ACC.

1084
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 3: Miami forty four, NC State forty one, Dan Wow, back

1085
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 3: and forth game. Miami was down ten early in the

1086
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 3: fourth quarter. They score thirteen unanswered to win this one

1087
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 3: late on a fifty four yard strike to Mike Hartley

1088
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 3: five touchdown passes four hundred and thirty passing yards.

1089
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: He's so good, Derek Derek King.

1090
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 3: He also led the team with one hundred and five

1091
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 3: rushing yards. Not a great defensive effort for the Knes.

1092
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 3: That was supposed to be their bread and butter. Not

1093
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 3: a great show.

1094
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: Those ed rushers are good, though, and Jalen Phillips had

1095
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: great days.

1096
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 6: Very good.

1097
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: They're very good.

1098
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 3: But the defense did not necessarily show up here, especially

1099
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 3: against a backup quarterback since Devin Leary's been hurt and

1100
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 3: Deeric aale maam. De Eric King gets a job done.

1101
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 3: This is why they brought him over. He is a

1102
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 3: unique talent who can do a lot in this game,

1103
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 3: did and he's single handedly what propelled Miami to victory here.

1104
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: I really hope that the microphone just picked up my

1105
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 3: stomach growling. I don't know if it was if it

1106
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 3: was timed with Miami n C State right there, but

1107
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 3: I just got a you're hungry for more of that

1108
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 3: Miami defense.

1109
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 1: Derek King dragged Miami across the finish line, and it's

1110
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: actually really refreshing to see because one of the things

1111
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier in the year with the Caynes

1112
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: is is there a receiver?

1113
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 4: Is there?

1114
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: Like a guy?

1115
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 3: Is there?

1116
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: A dude from Miami? And Mike Hartley has sort of

1117
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: really shown up for the Knes, So that's a nice revelation. Also, Miami, though,

1118
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: they were able to run the ball really impressively early on,

1119
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,919
Speaker 1: and that is vanished for the Canes. So I don't

1120
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: know who is left on Miami schedule. There's six and one.

1121
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: They had the ugly loss against Clemson where they were

1122
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: thoroughly out class but it's a flawed Virginia Tech team,

1123
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: a definitely flawed Georgia Tech team, an interesting Wake team,

1124
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: but not a crazy good Wake team in North Carolina,

1125
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: So with a playmaker like Derek King, they're going to

1126
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: be in basically any game they play short of Clemson

1127
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: now in the ACC. So they could go four and oh,

1128
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: they could go two and two, they go three and one.

1129
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: Essentially everything is on the table with Deeric King in

1130
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: a good way and with most of the rest of

1131
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: Miami in a not so good way.

1132
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 3: North Carolina fifty six Duke twenty four. They led forty

1133
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 3: two to ten at half. Another big game on the

1134
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 3: ground for Javonte Hawkins. He had one to fifty one

1135
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 3: and three touchdowns. Michael Carter another name who we've discussed

1136
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 3: on the podcast eighty five yards and a touchdown. North

1137
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 3: Carolina is gearing up for a game end of the

1138
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 3: month against Notre Dame. So Notre Dame's got Boston College.

1139
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 3: After Boston College, their next game would be against North Carolina.

1140
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 3: That will be a pivotal matchup for both of those schools.

1141
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 3: No doubt that is going to be a difficult game

1142
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 3: for Notre Dame. I would agree. I would write that

1143
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 3: to I would put that in a time capsule and

1144
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: dig it up like ten years from now. That's how

1145
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 3: confident I am because North Carolina is very dynamic on offense,

1146
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 3: defense has improved, albeit maybe not as much as it

1147
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 3: needs to, and you know they will be fired up

1148
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: to play against Notre Dame, who at that point, barring

1149
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 3: any kind of catastrophe against Boston College, should still be

1150
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 3: undefeated and look a top the ACC.

1151
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: Here's my question to you. So we're in the middle

1152
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: of year two of the Mac Brown era at at

1153
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: North Carolina. What's the signature win. Is it losing to Clemson?

1154
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: Is it beating Miami last year?

1155
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 4: Like?

1156
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,959
Speaker 1: What is the actual signature win? For North Carolina because

1157
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: I feel like he has raised their floor significantly, but

1158
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: their performance when eyes are actually on them has typically disappointed.

1159
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 3: The signature game is probably the close call against Clemson, and.

1160
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's my issue in just North Carolina belief

1161
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: right now? Right, Well, the win, the win, my four

1162
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: quarters of impressive play against a pretty good team.

1163
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 3: I would reframe that conversation and I would say the

1164
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 3: real win is finding Sam Howell. That's the win. Win

1165
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 3: stealing Sam Howell, Yeah, stealing Sam Howe. Right, The win

1166
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 3: is getting Sam Howe to a level where he constantly

1167
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 3: is going to have you in some of these games.

1168
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 3: And you know they need to build depth on defense

1169
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 3: is what they need to do. I think they're doing

1170
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 3: a good job of it. It's going to take a

1171
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 3: little bit to get there, but as we often see

1172
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 3: with a lot of these schools, it's it's not always

1173
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 3: something that translates to wins right away. You do look

1174
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 3: for that fight though, as long as they're playing hard.

1175
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 3: I think that that tells you a lot about buy in.

1176
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 3: That tells you a lot about where the program's at internally.

1177
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 3: So I feel good about it, even if we haven't

1178
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 3: necessarily gotten that that signature moment.

1179
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: Yet that's Friday night of Thanksgiving week, Friday. I don't

1180
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: know if it's a night or day. I don't know

1181
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: if it's been announced against Notre Dame right the twenty seventh,

1182
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: the twenty seventh, and then the following week against Miami

1183
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: on the road. I'm not like, I don't think it's

1184
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: going to change my opinion in North Carolina if they

1185
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: lose close to Notre Dame because that sort of seems

1186
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: on brand. Miami on the road is gonna be tough,

1187
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: but that is the surefire sign of progress. Miami is

1188
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: a beatable team, even in Miami because it's not all

1189
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: that difficult because twenty twenty to win on the road,

1190
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: So North Carolina has to beat Miami as proof of

1191
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: concept of we are flirting with the upper tier of

1192
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: the ACC. Otherwise, I think they're still kind of mired

1193
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: in the fancy June pick but not actual October proof

1194
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: kind of team. I want to see more when with

1195
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: eyes on the heels, I want to see more.

1196
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 3: We had Louisville, Virginia postponed Loville. You know, we had

1197
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 3: pit a big over Florida State. Florida State actually let

1198
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 3: it half and then pit out scored him thirty one

1199
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 3: to three. Ran the ball, tie breaking news hit ran

1200
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 3: the ball. We also saw some Chubb a party in

1201
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 3: this game for Florida State. Wasn't yeah, maybe the best

1202
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 3: version of Chubb a party, but we did get to

1203
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 3: see some action for him. And if we want to

1204
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 3: load up the divorjack, we did have Boston College. Let

1205
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 3: me get you sarahcuse thirteen. This game was as bad,

1206
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 3: if not worse offensively.

1207
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 2: Punt, punt, punt, field goal, field goal, missed field goal, punt, punt, punt, touchdown,

1208
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 2: end of half, missed field goal, field goal, field goal, punt, punt, interception, punt, fumble,

1209
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: field goal, and pay touch down.

1210
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 3: Sixteen to thirteen?

1211
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: Did that sound noticeably better the divorjak from my speaker

1212
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: from the iPhone twelve.

1213
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 3: It always breaks up for me on this and when

1214
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 3: I hear it, I can hear it after the fact

1215
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 3: usually pretty well just not now, same for me with

1216
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 3: some of the sounds you play. Yeah, all right, all right,

1217
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 3: and let's close it out with the SEC. We only

1218
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 3: had three games to discuss.

1219
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: By the way, I am not closing out with the

1220
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: SEC because I got a lot of group of five thoughts. Continue, Well,

1221
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: I have a group of.

1222
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 3: Five stuff here as well, and we'll get to that.

1223
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1224
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 3: Arkansas twenty four, Tennessee thirteen. The story of two halves. Really,

1225
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 3: Tennessee led thirteen nil in the first half. The Hog

1226
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 3: score twenty four unanswered in the second half to win

1227
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 3: this one, twenty four to thirteen. Look, they're now three

1228
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 3: and three. They're on the road next week at Florida.

1229
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if we can steer into the whole

1230
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 3: Felipe Fox revenge the week Florida coming off that Georgia wins.

1231
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 3: Maybe there is a letdown spot there. But this is

1232
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 3: a game where Arkansas was favored I think by a

1233
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 3: point and a half something like that.

1234
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 1: Is that where I ended up? Okay?

1235
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, somewhere around there at least were coded that's where

1236
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 3: it was. Okay, So I guess it's not surprising that

1237
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 3: Arkansas won. But this is beyond the point of just

1238
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 3: being a fluke, right, Like this is this is Sam

1239
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 3: Pittman knowing how to get the most out of his talent.

1240
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 3: This is Felipe Franks actually having very quietly a pretty

1241
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 3: good season. Good and then yeah, if you're an Arkansas fan,

1242
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 3: I think this is your source of optimism now moving

1243
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 3: forward like this is we finally got a guy who

1244
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,960
Speaker 3: is getting players to buy in Arkansas's I you know,

1245
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 3: look at the rest of the schedule, it's it's tough

1246
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 3: the rest of the way, probably at least one, maybe

1247
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 3: two wins if you're lucky. But in any case, to

1248
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 3: be talking about a four or five win potentially campaign

1249
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 3: in year one and a goof of year under Sam Pittman,

1250
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 3: that is such a quantum leap forward given where this

1251
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 3: program has been the last couple of seasons, that you

1252
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 3: got to be elated.

1253
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: You have to be elated, yes, especially because they should

1254
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: have a There should be four and two with the

1255
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 1: Auburn game ending, so they should be having even better record.

1256
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: The question to me, though, is what's waiting behind Felipe Franks.

1257
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: I don't know the hog's depth chart at quarterback now,

1258
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: but you got to be able to develop your own

1259
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,800
Speaker 1: dude there because Felipe Franks is essentially a finished product

1260
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: that was able to step in and Traylon Burks has

1261
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: been fantastic. There's there have been all sorts of pieces

1262
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball that the Arkansas coaching

1263
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: staff has really gotten the most out of But this

1264
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,919
Speaker 1: is not Sam Pittman's squad right now, And so that's

1265
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: what I'm curious about, because how can they build on

1266
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: this suddenly competitive Hog squad. Because against LSU's defense and Miszoo,

1267
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: both two teams that have very clear flaws with guys

1268
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: out and whatever, those are winnable games for Arkansas. I've

1269
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,439
Speaker 1: already planted my flag as to saying huge trap spot

1270
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: against Alabama ahead of the SEC Championship game. But I'm

1271
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 1: not that confident in that win. But LSU and Miszoo

1272
01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: suddenly very approachable, tie, very civil teams this year for

1273
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: the Hogs.

1274
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 5: I like it.

1275
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And by the way, should we mentioned Jeric

1276
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: Garantana was hurt. He and Tennessee really struggled at quarterback.

1277
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: He took a shot in this game that took him

1278
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: out of the game and Tennessee. I it shouldn't be

1279
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: this difficult at this point, right I know? It shouldn't know.

1280
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a Jim Cheney thing. The

1281
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: play third downs have been awful for the Balls all

1282
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: season long. Everything just seems difficult and it shouldn't it

1283
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't at this point be all that hard to consistently

1284
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: move the ball against a very very much changing Arkansas

1285
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: team improving, improving, that's sure, Tennessee. It's it's a disappointment,

1286
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: all things considered, twenty twenty, where the Valls haven't at

1287
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: least gotten to as a team.

1288
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 3: Final two games here to talk about very quickly in

1289
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 3: the sec before we rattle off the group of five action.

1290
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 3: Texas A and M destroys South Carolina forty eight three

1291
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 3: of the wake and Mississippi State twenty four to seventeen

1292
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Speaker 3: over Vandy.

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Speaker 1: Dan, all right, I'm not gonna waste my breath on

1294
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: Mississippi State Vandy, but.

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01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 3: Talk about hold on, Let's let's move on here. I

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01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 3: want to talk about a different game. Hold On, I mean,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about Texas A and M. Though Texas A

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01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 3: and M has been overlooked. They were left for dead

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01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 3: after they lost that game to Alabama. Unfairmal cells, unfairental cells.

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01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 3: People have been sleeping on A and M. They've been

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01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 3: sleeping on A and M. Perhaps they shouldn't, because A

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01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 3: and M is actually really good. Yeah, they showed it

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01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 3: in this game of you know, a really good showing, frankly,

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01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 3: and how the rest of the season plays out is

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01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 3: supremely interesting to me because I think highly of this

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01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 3: team I did at the start of the year, and

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01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 3: sure there are still some ups and downs, but this

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01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 3: is this is a really solid football team that, for

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01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 3: whatever reason, to me, at least from where I sit,

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01:08:58,320 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 3: feels like it's gotten lost in the shuffle.

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Speaker 1: Am I misremembering or did I take A and M

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01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: against Florida and you it just interrogate me. In interrogate me.

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01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 3: I can either confirm nor deny any such statement, Dan, I.

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01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: Have been an A and M believer all year long.

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01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,560
Speaker 1: I have not been an enthusiastic Kellen mand believer, and

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01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: I think he has proven me wrong to a certain extent.

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01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: And Isaiah Spiller has certainly been better than I thought

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01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: he would, and the receivers have stepped up better than

1319
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 1: I thought they would, even despite some injuries and opt outs.

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01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,839
Speaker 1: But what A and M looks like on the offensive

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01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: line and defensive line. They've got some big dudes on

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01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 1: the inside of that A and M defensive line that

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01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: have been quite impressive, and I just they are one

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01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: of the like they are to me, A and M

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01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: when you look across various conferences. I know you've shouted

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Speaker 1: out Indiana and obviously Notre Dame has taken a step forward.

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01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:56,640
Speaker 1: But in terms of teams that have surprisingly gotten things together,

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01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: now it's a much more advantageous schedule this year than

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01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: it was next year. A and M in a very

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01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:06,600
Speaker 1: strange year has become fully realized and we shouldn't overlook that.

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01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:07,879
Speaker 1: That's crazy impressive.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the group of five action,

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01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 3: the big group of five game. I've got a bunch

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Speaker 3: here listed, but the big one was clearly on Friday

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01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 3: night between BYU and Boise State.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is just a beatdown.

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Speaker 4: This is a.

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Speaker 3: Beatdown, Dan, I sincerely hope at this point, and I

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01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 3: know schedules are wonky because of COVID, I sincerely hope

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01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 3: that BYU draws somebody prominent in a bowl game, just

1341
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 3: so we can see what they'll do against a team

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01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 3: from one of the Power five conferences. Someone in the SEC.

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01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,879
Speaker 3: Give them A and M. I don't care right now. Interesting,

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01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 3: are they the second best team in the Big ten

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01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 3: if you put them there?

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01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh yeah, are they the the Well, okay, here's

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01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: the best team in the SEC.

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01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 3: Like they're really really good.

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson is a high level power five quarterback. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've seen first round conversations about him with regard to

1351
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. They faced a Boise team who lost

1352
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: their now second string quarterback pretty early on in the game.

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01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: Right Jack Sears leaves this game injured, and Boise could

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01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: do precisely zero through the passing game thereafter. So that's

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01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 1: a slight qualifier. But Boise State's defense doesn't try to

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01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 1: throw the ball, and they could not stop Zach Wilson

1357
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 1: throwing the ball. Zach Wilson is legitimate. I am very

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01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 1: excited to see him against the rest of their schedule

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01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: and hopefully a good team they have San Diego State,

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01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: but a San Diego State team who is I don't

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01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: think they are where they were under Rocky Long Now.

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01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: That's Brady Hoke, and I think that San Diego State

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01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: just lose to San Jose State last night to their

1364
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: backup quarterback, and that's the story. I've loved the Spartans

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01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,640
Speaker 1: for a while, and I think it's Brent Brennan, the

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01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: head coach, but I don't know who's standing in BYU's

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01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: way at this point. So yes, a fantastic story poise

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01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 1: state when you when you're down to your third, fourth,

1369
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 1: fifth string quartbate, it's just it's not gonna it's not

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01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: gonna work out well no matter how dark your uniforms happen.

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Speaker 3: Are they Uh, they are. But it's like the thing

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01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 3: with BYU though, is they're they're they're not just squeaking by.

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01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 1: No, they're they're bringing monsoons in the second half, by

1374
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: the way they're they're they're bringing They're getting strongest as

1375
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: games go on.

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01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 3: They are maiming teams in the second half. And again, look,

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01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,759
Speaker 3: I don't know how that translates to a game against

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01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 3: I'll just throw a and m out there, right. I

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01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 3: have no idea, but I would be damn curious to

1380
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 3: see it, because they have been really, really solid pretty

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01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,839
Speaker 3: much the whole year three with like one hiccup.

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01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's our Maybe that's our segment after the

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01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 1: uh after we sign off to the regular listeners and

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01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,719
Speaker 1: we talked to directly to the certified and premium verballers,

1385
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 1: is who could b YU beat? Could be why you beat?

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01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:07,879
Speaker 1: That's a very specific segment. I think it's a relevant

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01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 1: question for Cincinnati though A comfortable win against Houston. Yeah,

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01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: Desmond Ridder with four touchdowns, not crazy impressive for the air,

1389
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 1: but fine and really good on the ground. Who is

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01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:26,799
Speaker 1: definitively better than Cincinnati right now across any conference? Alabama?

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01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: Definitively Alabama. I would take confidently Ohio State. I would

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01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 1: take confidently against Cincinnati. I would take Clemson with Trevor Lawrence,

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01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,679
Speaker 1: although maybe Clemson straight up. I would take Notre Dame

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01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati at this point, I think Desimon Ridder would

1395
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 1: would fall on struggle with Notre Dame's defense. But right now,

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01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: with that combination of running the ball in defense and

1397
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 1: where Cincinnati now is many years into Luke Fickle's tenure,

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01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm taking George over Cincinnati. What

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01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't know that I am?

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01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 4: I am?

1401
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: I am confident, but I am it's not a no

1402
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: brainer to me.

1403
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 3: Let me tell you what I enjoy here. I enjoy.

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01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: I think I would take text Say and Am over Cincinnati.

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01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 3: I enjoy sitting on this side of the microphone, just listening,

1406
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 3: listening to your your thought process work itself out naturally.

1407
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: No, take Oklahoma State? Would you take Oklahoma State over

1408
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 1: Cincinnati comfortably?

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01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 3: Man, I wouldn't take Oklahoma State over anybody right now.

1410
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 1: Right, I don't. I don't know that I would take

1411
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 1: oregonl neutral field.

1412
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State is a point underdog to Cincinnati based on

1413
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 3: what I'm seeing here.

1414
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so the I would take Florida over Cincinnati.

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01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just I'm I don't know if I'm that

1416
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 3: high in Cincinnati. But my point is that I've been

1417
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 3: here for a while feeling that this is a really

1418
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 3: good team. I know, and I know des Ritter's got

1419
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 3: some some limitations, right, He's not always the most thrifty

1420
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 3: with the football, but he's a dynamic talent. He's getting

1421
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 3: it done both through the air and on the ground.

1422
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 3: And it's you're right there. It's not a sure thing

1423
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 3: that you're going to go and knock off Sincanti because

1424
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 3: they do play really good defense and they yeah multiple

1425
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 3: ways they can be on offense.

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01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've been slabby. The USF game was not great,

1427
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,639
Speaker 1: but right now they're playing at a pretty impressive level.

1428
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: The Mac is back tie and I know what you're thinking,

1429
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,560
Speaker 1: that must be the end of the Rourke lineage for

1430
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: the Ohio Bobcats.

1431
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 3: Wrong.

1432
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: Curtis Rourke. Then just another from one to another, there

1433
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 1: is another. Yeah, but they lose to the Chips thirty

1434
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: to twenty seven. The Bauer Hour in a losing effort.

1435
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: They lost to Northern LOI lost to Buffalo. Yeah, that's

1436
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: what it is. Miami of Ohio a nice win over

1437
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 1: Ball State Toledo. Interesting story with Toledo tie. They hire

1438
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: a bunch of new assistants, new new coordinator situation. They

1439
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: absolutely looked fantastic because they had a down twenty nineteen.

1440
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:01,560
Speaker 1: They look really good against what's against Bowling Green. So

1441
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 1: great to have maction back in our lives. Western Michigan

1442
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 1: demolished Akron, but Nakrinspin pretty bad. Are there any other

1443
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 1: group of five games that were interesting? I mean, Utah

1444
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:15,759
Speaker 1: State got destroyed by Nevada and Carson Strong very quietly

1445
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: an interesting quarterback nationally for Nevada. But Utah State was like, yeah,

1446
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: I think we're doing Gary Anderson. I think the Gary

1447
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 1: Anderson experiment has run its course at Gary Anderson Part two. Yeah, yeah,

1448
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: I mentioned the San Jose State win. Continue.

1449
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 3: No, I was going to say, I just I have

1450
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 3: a few other ones here that I'll just rifle through.

1451
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 3: So since he knocked off Houston by twenty eight. SMU

1452
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 3: knocks off Temple four more touchdowns for our boys. Sugar

1453
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 3: Shane Bochelle YEP Coastal Carolina wins by seventeen over South Alabama.

1454
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 3: They've got app State in two weeks, which should be

1455
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 3: a pretty big game. App State knocked off Texas State

1456
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 3: by a thirty eight to seventeen final. And then we

1457
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 3: also had Marshall pretty big over UMass, rounding out top

1458
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 3: twenty five teams and in the MAC he started to

1459
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 3: address some of the action there, but we had Case Date,

1460
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 3: Western Michigan, Buffalo, Central Michigan, Miami, Ohio and Toledo also

1461
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 3: winning their action.

1462
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 1: Should mention Chavon Cordero for Hawaii another huge game in

1463
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: a winning effort over New Mexico. Also, Tye I mentioned

1464
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:24,799
Speaker 1: what's it call? I mentioned San Jose se but Fresno

1465
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 1: State Klin debor they take down UNLB, Marcus Arroyo and UNLV.

1466
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 1: I think that's ways to go situation for the Rebels,

1467
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: but Fresno's I like that combination. I like Jake Hayner,

1468
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 1: who many thought had beaten out Jacob Easton last year

1469
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 1: in the quarterback battle. At Washington and Jake Hanner was like,

1470
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,600
Speaker 1: screw this. If they're not putting me in, I'm just

1471
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: going I'm just leaving. And so he's been pretty solid

1472
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: at Fresno State. I'm mean to monitor in the Mountain West.

1473
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: All right, That's what I got here.

1474
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 3: Do we have any dudes that you'd like to call out? Daniel?

1475
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: I would love to give me. Drop me that sound.

1476
01:17:58,360 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 1: Who we got? Who we got?

1477
01:17:59,200 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 3: Who we got?

1478
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: I don't know who select from Notre Dame. I'm just

1479
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 1: gonna go with Ian book. Kyrien Williams was sensational, The

1480
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: defense is great. I'm gonna go with Ian got to

1481
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: go I he was the engine there were Kim Jared

1482
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 1: I mentioned from Marylyn Drake London USC Tie Fry Fogel.

1483
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: I love Fries, I love Ties. Let's put him together

1484
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: with Indiana football and make him a dude. Jared Broussard

1485
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 1: Colorado did a fantastic job for the bosss, Dereck King everything,

1486
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 1: everything have got Miami offense.

1487
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 3: I feel like we've retired him as a dude.

1488
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: I think we probably should have should Hendon Hooker doing

1489
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 1: the same thing, though in a losing efforts. Dion McIntosh

1490
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: I'm skewing Pac twelve with this week's dudes just because

1491
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:39,799
Speaker 1: they've been gone for so long. For Wazoo Tory Taylor

1492
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 1: impressive punting day for Iowa in a winning efforts tip

1493
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 1: oh the cap. Somebody submitted him. I watched his punts.

1494
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 1: Dude can kick?

1495
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 3: Dude can kick? All right? Yeah, well cool.

1496
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1497
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 3: To everyone out there for playing along with our madness

1498
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 3: here for calling in at four oh eight Verbal one

1499
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 3: giving us your thoughts and feelings throughout the course of

1500
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 3: this week ten. We will be back on Wednesday to

1501
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 3: preview all the week eleven action. In the interim, don't

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Speaker 3: forget to check out verballers dot com for more info

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Speaker 3: on the Patreon and if you'd like more of an

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Speaker 3: in depth analysis of how it sounded to listen to

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Speaker 3: some of these local broadcasts, please do go on out

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Speaker 3: to tune in and search for college sports now, or

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Speaker 3: just look up the college football rewind from our good

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Speaker 3: friends over at Learfield IMG College to do an awesome

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Speaker 3: job running you through all the top twenty five action

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Speaker 3: and bring you up to speed in a way that

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Speaker 3: we can't frankly correct, So go and check them out.

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Speaker 3: Our friends do an awesome job, Dan, That's all I got.

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Speaker 1: That's all I got, all I have as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, appreciate you being here with me early on this

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Speaker 3: Sunday morning to record this show again. Going out to

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Speaker 3: our website sliverable dot com and subscribe if you have

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Speaker 3: not already. For that guy over there beautiful Chicago, for

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Speaker 3: myself tie over here in eastern Pennsylvania. We will talk

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Speaker 3: to y'all on Wednesday. In the meantime, stay solid, peace,