1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Here in 2 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: the Bonus with. 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb showing the bonus Fox Sports Radio, I Heart 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: Radio app. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome in. I don't need to 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: be s with you here. Aaron Aglers joining us Cheesehead TV. 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: He's I think the most known packer comment commentator, analyst, reporter. 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: I'm glad you're going with most known and not most liked. 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 3: That's good. 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: I don't care care people like you like. Do you 10 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: know what you're Are you informed? Yes? Do you have 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: an opinion that's an important opinion? Yes? Do you pay 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 2: attention to all things Packers? 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 4: Yes? 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 2: Okay, So I don't like if somebody doesn't like it, 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 2: like you're not saying it had a spite. Okay, all right, 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: So here's the big question. Yes, sir, what are what 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 2: are ex what should expectations be of this team? 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: Super Bowl? No question about it. They are ready to 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 3: take that step now if they're going to or not, 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: a lot of things have to fall into place, no 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: question about it. But they certainly shouldn't be that team 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: that we've seen the last couple of years, youngest team 23 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: in the league. Quote unquote getting into the playoffs. What 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: a great accomplish. 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: Fact, girl, the problem just happy to be here, that's 26 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:16,639 Speaker 2: all behind. 27 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: Yes, this is a team that has to take the 28 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: proverbial next step, right. They have to win the division, 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: They have to host a playoff game here at Lambeau. 30 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: They have to contend for a championship. That was Brian's 31 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: message at the end of the season. That has certainly 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: been the vibe here at the start of camp as 33 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: far as you ask. A guy like Jordan Love said 34 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: it straight out like super Bowl is the expectation that 35 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: is absolutely doable for them. 36 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: Let's start with Jordan Lowe. Let's start with Jordan Love. 37 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 2: The turnovers are the big question, right, right, yep. And 38 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: I think if this was twenty years ago it wouldn't 39 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 2: be because back then you could have Brett Fava just 40 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: rip it. But now everything is about efficiency, right. 41 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 3: Big time. Yes, in the modern game especially, you're right 42 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 3: about that, Okay, And like this decision making is where 43 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 3: you kind of scratch your head sometimes because you know 44 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: he can make every throw, you can make amazing plays. 45 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, every once in a while, we had one 46 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: yesterday at practice. It was just a mindumbingly questionable throw. 47 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: Why are you even attempting that he threw it right 48 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 3: to a linebacker Tyron Hopper. It's just every once in 49 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: a while he seems to sprinkle in one of those 50 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 3: that makes you kind of scratch your head. 51 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: What's it likely that he can cut down those? 52 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: I think it's actually really good because Matt does a 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: great Matt Lafleur does a great job of tailoring his 54 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 3: game plan the specifics of it, trying to like lean 55 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: into his strengths, obviously, but that's what we saw back 56 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three. At the beginning of the year. 57 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: He was throwing, I mean just seemingly every week some 58 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: boneheaded interceptions, and Matt adjusted the playbook, adjusted his calls, 59 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 3: and that's when we saw that back half at twenty 60 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: twenty three where he really took off. It became incredibly 61 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 3: efficient and was outstanding on the stretch there. We all 62 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: know he'd dealing with injuries from the jump. Last year 63 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: certainly had an up and down season, but I do 64 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: think last year, you're way more than the first season 65 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: as a starter. His receivers really sabotaged him, like I'm 66 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 3: pretty much on bounce for the rest of the entirety 67 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: of the season. 68 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: Okay, so they go out and get they go out 69 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: and get goldenhow's he looked? 70 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 3: He looks phenomenal. I mean, he had the play of 71 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 3: the camp today, sixty yard touchdown on a post corner 72 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 3: where he just lost Nate Hobbs and Evan Williams. Big play. 73 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: And he's been doing that every day, catching everything. He's 74 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 3: had one quote unquote drop yesterday ricocheted off his hands, 75 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: but other than that one play, he has been sensational. 76 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: It's crazy. If you wait that long to drave to 77 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: wide receiver, you better, you better kneel. It seems like 78 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: they have Are you going to Pittsburgh? 79 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: No, I'll be. I'll be doing our watch party on 80 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 3: our YouTube channel. It'd be fun. I love Pittsburgh. I 81 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: love seeing games there, like on the Rivers. It's awesome. 82 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: It's a great setting. But it's hard to give up 83 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: the watch parties. We have a very die hard built 84 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: in audience that expects me to be on YouTube. So 85 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 3: I'll be on YouTube. 86 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: If somebody wants fun the YouTube page, how they do it? 87 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 3: She said? TV on YouTube, It's pretty simple. We're you know, 88 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: new content each and every day throughout the offseason, but 89 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: now certainly since camp has started, like each and every day, 90 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: tons of updates, anything you need as a Packers fan, 91 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 3: She said, TV. 92 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Be short to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 93 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: Show weekday. He's at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 94 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 95 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 2: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio 96 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 2: and we're coming to you live from Green Bay, Wisconsin. 97 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 2: We're literally a block away. You can see the practice 98 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 2: field with the Packers practice on daily basis. And the 99 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: guy who covers it and also covers us at GB 100 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: as Kyle Malsan, he worked for. He's w f r 101 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: v TV. It's our CBS affiliate in Green Bay. There's 102 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: sports reporter. He joins us now on Fox Sports Radio. Kyle, 103 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: what's the feeling like around Packers camp in regards to 104 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: expectations this season. 105 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, the expectations are high. Look, this is the young 106 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 4: team in football. They've done some really good things. Last 107 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 4: year was a step back. They made the playoffs, but 108 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 4: they were without a playoff win. They were bounced around 109 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: by the Eagles and now heading into year three of 110 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,239 Speaker 4: Jordan Love leading this team. There's high expectations with this team, 111 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 4: and not only not only the team in general, but 112 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: their quarterback too. Look, Jordan Love, this is not only 113 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 4: his third year just starting. It's your six in this 114 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 4: Matt Lafleur playbook. And as we know in the NFL, 115 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 4: teams are only going to go as far as their 116 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 4: quarterback takes them. So this team really rides on Jordan Love, 117 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 4: the health of their quarterback because last year he was 118 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 4: injured and his results are always going to be skewed 119 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 4: one way or another when you look back on a 120 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 4: second year. But I will say this, Doug, this training 121 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 4: camp has been the most physical headliner today, the most 122 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 4: physical practice that I have seen in my five years 123 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: covering this team and talking to other media members, it 124 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 4: is the most physical. It was the most physical one 125 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 4: dating back to Mike McCarthy. It is Matt Lafour told 126 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 4: us today that we're going to say in real football, 127 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 4: and we have certainly seen that. Now. We haven't seen 128 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: Matt Lafleur do a lot of live tackling periods in 129 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 4: training camp in past years, but this year whole different story. 130 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 4: These guys are amped up, ready to go, and they're 131 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 4: walking a fine line of, you know, being productive and 132 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 4: competitive rather than being too chippy and not being so productive. 133 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: So good vibes all around. This is a team that 134 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 4: thinks they can go to the super Bowl, but that's 135 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 4: yet to be determined. And these are the summer months 136 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 4: where you've got kind of get your identity a little 137 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: bit before the season gets underway. 138 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's talk Jordan Love right where you said 139 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: step back, but obviously with explosive plays. I mean, the 140 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: guy throws what thirty one touchdown passes, but it was 141 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: the interceptions which he started to cut down as the 142 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: year went on. Where where are Where are Packer? Where's Packer? 143 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: Media on Jordan Love considering you know, there was a 144 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: time before he got his own team where people thought 145 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 2: he was a bust. Now he's the franchise quarterback. Where 146 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: should we really land on Jordan Love? Man? 147 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 4: This is this is going to be a big year 148 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: for him. Now we've seen kind of two sides of 149 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: the coin to Jordan Love. We've seen in his first 150 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 4: year as a starting quarterback in twenty twenty three him 151 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: go down to Dallas in the playoffs, and when his 152 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 4: best was required, he performed at his best Last year 153 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 4: it was ball all about taking care of the football 154 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 4: for him, and when you know the playoffs came around, 155 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 4: he threw three interceptions. So this is going to be 156 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 4: a big year. I mean, it's been a mixed bag 157 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: for Jordan Love thus far. The talent's all there, it's 158 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 4: about putting it together for a full season, right, Like, 159 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 4: if you're not protecting the football and you're putting it 160 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 4: in harms way for the defense, like, that's not going 161 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 4: to bode well for the team. I'm high on Jordan Love. 162 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 4: I think there's an element to his game that we 163 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 4: haven't fully seen yet when it comes to his legs 164 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: and scrambling and quarterback keepers. Now, I don't think the 165 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 4: Packers are and Matt Leaflour are going to let him 166 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 4: run the ball and put their quarterbacks in harms way. 167 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 4: But because you have a guy like Josh Jacobs in 168 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: the back. But this offense is set up so well 169 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: when you have Josh Jacobs in the backfield where you 170 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 4: can get into play action, you can go out of 171 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: this shotgun and there's just so many options for Jordan 172 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: Love to succeed. And this offensive line is shut up 173 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 4: in the way that Jordan Love shouldn't have to shouldn't 174 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 4: have to play like scramble a whole lot like he 175 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 4: should have a lot of time in the pocket. I 176 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: think he has the talent to put it all together. 177 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: He has to do it. But I'm high on Jordan Love. 178 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 4: I think he when it comes to our arm, talent, athleticism, 179 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 4: this ceiling is so high for him. I think the 180 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 4: Packers and everybody in that building believes in Jordan Love 181 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 4: to be the franchise quarterback, not only throughout his tenure 182 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 4: because he's this is the first year on his four 183 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 4: year extension, but you know, maybe the next decade, and 184 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 4: they believe he could take him to the promised land. 185 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 4: Branger comes to the team's general manager did tell us 186 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 4: he's he's every everything that they need him to be. 187 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: He was challenged this offseason to be a leader, more 188 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 4: of a vocal leader in the past's locker room, and 189 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: I think we are starting to see him come out 190 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 4: of his show a little bit just talking to us 191 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 4: in the media and obviously just kind of on the 192 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 4: sidelines during here in training camp, going over to receivers 193 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: or defense if things get a little too physical, and 194 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 4: let let it be known that they're playing for, you know, 195 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: a bigger goal, but that's gonna be his biggest hurdle 196 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 4: is the consistency taking care of the football and then 197 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: unlocking things that we haven't seen due to that injury 198 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 4: last year where it really hindered him. I feel like. 199 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: Matthew Golden, they finally take a wide receiver in the 200 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: first round, right, So is he any good man? 201 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 4: He has been the darling of training camp and we 202 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 4: know what it is like. This is now just day 203 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 4: two into having pads on, but we know the speed 204 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 4: that he possesses four to two nine speed is no joke. 205 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 4: He has that extra gear that other receivers don't have, 206 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 4: and we know he has good hands. But then you 207 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 4: then you watch him up close and you focus in 208 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: on him and it's the route running too. Today at 209 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 4: Packers training camp practice during their team sessions, Jordan Love 210 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 4: in shotgun unleashes to Matthew Golden and we look down 211 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 4: the field while the balls in the air, and he 212 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 4: has three or four steps on the safety and corner 213 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 4: and it's a sixty yard touchdown. So there are elements 214 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 4: to his game that we are seeing. And what's nice 215 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 4: about Matthew Goldman is he doesn't have to be the 216 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: number one guy on this team. Like usually when teams 217 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 4: drafted number one a wide receiver in the first round, 218 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 4: there's a ton of pressure surrounding them to be the 219 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 4: go to guy, and he doesn't have that pressure on 220 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: this team. I think the expectations are going to be 221 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 4: high for him this year, but the Packers' offense is 222 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 4: set up in such a great way that he doesn't 223 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 4: have to necessarily fulfill that role right away. But man, 224 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 4: you watch this guy one time on the field and 225 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 4: you will understand why Brian Good took him at pick 226 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: number twenty three. 227 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: I was looking and there's a game twenty six, right, Yeah, 228 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: historic game and that you have Packers Steelers. That's great, 229 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 2: But then you also have Jordan Love against Aaron Rodgers. 230 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: Granted's Stoton Lambeau. And of course the Packers have seen 231 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 2: this before, back when Brett Farvre came into town with 232 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: his Vikings. What do you think the hype level of 233 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: that game is going to be? 234 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 4: Like, we're just hoping that Aaron Rodgers stays healthy for 235 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 4: that game, right, Like, Man, the storyline's right itself, whether 236 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 4: it's the Super Bowl forty five rematch, and the Super 237 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 4: Bowl MVP for that team just happens to be the 238 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 4: greatest probably quarterback to ever play for the Green Bay Packers. 239 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: Now on the opposite side for the Steelers leading their team. 240 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: First time he gets a chance to play the Packers, 241 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 4: and in fact, my memory serves for me right if 242 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers wins, he'll be in the category of beating 243 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 4: all NFL teams in the league. So there's a lot 244 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 4: of hype around that game. I think it's different from 245 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 4: the Brett Favre situation. Obviously, when he came back to 246 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 4: Lambeau with the Minnesota Vikings, he wanted to beat the Packers. 247 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 4: He wanted to do everything he could. I think Packers 248 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 4: fans are in a place right now where all of 249 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: the Rogers antics and semantics are all past them, and 250 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 4: they're just, you know, hoping that he's healthy. It's a 251 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 4: good game and they can appreciate his legacy. But I'm 252 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: sure Jordan Love and Brian Goodakos and Matt Lafleur, when 253 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 4: that game comes around and both starting quarterbacks are still 254 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: on the field, man they want to they probably want 255 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 4: to give it to Aaron Rodgers a little bit. 256 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, no question, about it. Hey, Kyle, great stuff, man. 257 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: I love having you on and talking something other than 258 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: Phoenix pass one out that I don't like talking Phoenix basketball, 259 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: but pretty good. Thanks so much for doing us on 260 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: the Doug gottlib Show. 261 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 4: I appreciate you, Doug. We'll see us soon. Man. 262 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 263 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 264 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 265 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: Let's find out who What's annoying? Jason Stewart. 266 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: And now it's your annoying? 267 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 5: Hey, Doug, I don't know if you saw this last night. 268 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 5: I know it's a visual, but I think the broadcasters 269 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 5: do a great job of explaining by their reaction how 270 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: bad it is. I got to get one past Ernie Clement. 271 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: Yea, what is going on at home play? 272 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: Brian Walsh Man. 273 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: That's literally right down the middle. 274 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 4: I mean, you couldn't set it on a tee in 275 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 4: the heart of the plate any better than look at 276 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 4: this pitch right here. 277 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 2: How do you miss that? 278 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 5: I'm getting the that was a home point umpire Brandon 279 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 5: Walsh missing a pitch right down the middle, A fastball 280 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 5: right down the cock and it was called a ball. 281 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 5: And I'm getting the feeling coming off the All Star 282 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 5: Game when the world openly laughed at the home point 283 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 5: umpires for getting the calls wrong on the Challenge. I'm 284 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 5: just getting the feeling that the rank and file is 285 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 5: the morale is down. When they get home plate assignments. 286 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 5: There they enter with bad morale. They know that their 287 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 5: jobs are being overly scrutinized. There are Twitter pages dedicated 288 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 5: to giving stats of how many each umpire gets wrong 289 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 5: every game. It's like an unsustainable issue with baseball. So 290 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 5: to say that the abs should have been done like 291 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 5: you know two years ago has become an understatement and 292 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 5: that it's starting to impact the actual judgment of the 293 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 5: homeplate umpires. They want to be replaced so badly and 294 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 5: taken out of this vicious cycle. 295 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: It's bad. And the more we delay it, I think, 296 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: the worse it becomes. Like we all saw they have 297 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 2: they have this weapon, it's not a secret, and it'll 298 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: solve some of the problems, and yet they just delayed, delay, delay, 299 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: I'm with you, it is annoying. 300 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 5: What else Jimmy Haslam took questions today. He's the owner 301 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 5: of the Browns. He's the guy that signed to Shaun Watson. Yeah, 302 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 5: pushed for the signing of Deshaun Watson, who pushed for 303 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 5: the guaranteed money to Deshaun Watson, who almost got the 304 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 5: entire league into massive collusion trouble because of giving guaranteed 305 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 5: money to Deshaun Watson. He talked about the third I 306 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 5: think it was two maybe three domestic violence charges for 307 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 5: his players this offseason. 308 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 6: Let me say it's extremely frustrated. Okay, obviously we're not 309 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 6: communicating as well as we should, and we take responsibility 310 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 6: for that. We have internal resources, we have external resources. 311 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 6: We talk about it continually, and it's something that we 312 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 6: need to do a better job on. 313 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: But it is frustrating. 314 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 5: So let me get this straight. The frustrating part here 315 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 5: is is that you don't do a better job of 316 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 5: what communicating that it's bad to beat women. This is 317 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 5: a character issue. You're drafting people with the character that 318 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 5: would beat a woman. You're drafting a person or you're 319 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 5: signing a person with a character that would force a 320 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 5: woman against her will to give you hand jobs. You're 321 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 5: bringing these people in this this is a commentary on 322 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 5: your judgment. What do you mean you're not doing a 323 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 5: good enough job of messaging. 324 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I I I don't know. I don't know. I 325 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: mean I at some point you can just say, hey, 326 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: our process was bad with Deshaun Watson. We admit it, 327 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: and so moving forward, we're trying to clean it up. 328 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: But you know, I guess because he's still under contract, 329 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: they feel not They feel like they can't admit fault, 330 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: admit blame. But yeah, that's what. 331 00:16:59,200 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 5: You know. 332 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: I know, you and I have talked on air about 333 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: what about ism, right, and any of us can be 334 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: guilt guilty of what about is them? Like if they 335 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: want to pass on somebody because of you know, some 336 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: some some personality, flower quirk or something out the field, 337 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: like yeah, well what about Deshaun Watson? Like I get it. 338 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: It's it's a flaming bag of poo that they can't 339 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: dig themselves out of. But I do think at some 340 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 2: point just going like, yeah, are bad would help. 341 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 5: The shooter in Manhattan last night claimed to have CTE. 342 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 5: He was, as confirmed by the Mayor of New York City, 343 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 5: targeting the NFL offices, And it just reminds me. I 344 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 5: just found the story today that Tua tagav looa I 345 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 5: think that's how you pronounced it. He says that his 346 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 5: priority this year is to stay available for his team. 347 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 5: If he suffers another concussion, it would be concussion number five. 348 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 5: So I wanted to entertwine both these stories. A person 349 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 5: who claims to have CTE targets the NFL offices before 350 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 5: offering himself and three others to Tagovailoa. Says, I'm going 351 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 5: to try to avoid my fifth concussion. I think the 352 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 5: NFL is lucky that the public has shown almost no 353 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 5: interest in this. No one saw the movie Concussion. I 354 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 5: heard Peter Schrager one day say that he'll write like 355 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 5: a quick write up on a list of the best 356 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 5: quarterbacks in the NFC, and it'll get a ton of clicks. 357 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 5: He'll do like an in depth article on CTE and 358 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 5: nobody will read it. Nobody's real interested. And then when 359 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 5: stuff like this happens, we're all kind of left to 360 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 5: be like, man, what's going on here? 361 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? I I have watched the movie Concussion, you know. 362 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: He tell me to watch it, Aaron Rodgers, it'll affect you, 363 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: and it's sad I don't really And obviously this is 364 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: when it kind of strikes close to home. Is when 365 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: a guy whose brain is obviously not behaving or performing correctly, 366 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: then he goes and murders innocent people in New York City, 367 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: Whereas like you would say, hey, if you really are 368 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: suffer from ct like you can go to the NFL 369 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: offices and just say, hey, I want to be tested. 370 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 2: I was a football prospect and I can't think straight, right, 371 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: But that's not what people have done. It's sad, it's scary. 372 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: It sucks because I you know, I don't think there's 373 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: I've made this discussion argument before. You know, we have 374 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 2: concussion protocols with basketball that mirror that of football. And 375 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: my point is always that it's not that I'm not 376 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 2: sensitive to concussions, but this idea of suffering multiple concussions 377 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 2: and CTE. There aren't basketball players that commit these crimes. 378 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 2: Aren't basketball players that suffer dementia als at a young age. 379 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 2: I just don't. It's football players, boxers. I'm sure at 380 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: some point they'll be uh, you know WW guys. I 381 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 2: mean not ww's UFC guys, right, I mean that's the 382 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: next that's the next wave that that's got to happen. 383 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: So I'm I'm with you there. I just think on 384 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 2: so many levels, this is a sad story that I mean, 385 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 2: even here we're covering Packers camp, Like, it's just how 386 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 2: do I discuss it? Knowing America loves football, this is 387 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: one of the dangers of playing football, and these are 388 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 2: real stories and real people and real brain damage. And 389 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 2: yet you know, I it's not like I don't want 390 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 2: to bite the hand that feeds you, but it does 391 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 2: feel kind of uncomfortable in terms of timing and how 392 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: you get it in. So what's what's annoying? 393 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 5: Huh that Jimmy has one's judgment and home plate umpires 394 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 5: and the morale of them having a degraded job. 395 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think homeplane on pires. I don't care. You 396 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 2: should have done a better job for years And honestly, 397 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: baseball does them a disservice not getting this abs thing 398 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: going at a quicker rate. So that whole thing is annoy. 399 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: Why are we doing this? 400 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 4: I do. 401 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 5: Because we can, uh. Derek White Celtics is Derek White, 402 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 5: Celtics All Star Olympian gold medalist. Derek White was on 403 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 5: a podcast. He told the story of getting traded by 404 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 5: the Spurs. 405 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: Getting traded is crazy. 406 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: We're in Atlanta pop walks into the room and he's like, hey, 407 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 2: we traded you and don't say anything. 408 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: I'm like to where and he was like, we win 409 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: to fuck you. 410 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 5: We sent you to Boston. 411 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, yeah, that's cool, Like I. 412 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: Think I thought. 413 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, I'll fit well there. 414 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 3: So good. 415 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: Just the idea of being honest with your players and 416 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 2: how it actually how the conversations actually work. And by 417 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 2: the way, the Spurs telling him what they were doing 418 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: before they did it. When you have other players complain 419 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 2: about nobody informing them. That's why people like the Spurs organization. 420 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 2: Why can't play it for you? Because we can't. That's 421 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: it for the end of the Modus podcast. Check out 422 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 2: the radio show three to five Eastern every day, Fox 423 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. iHeartRadio app I'm doug Out.