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Speaker 1: League dot com. So flag football, Mike Harmon, yes, her,

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Speaker 1: flag football. Flag football. Didn't think it was gonna be

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Speaker 1: the big story this weekend. It was, but then again,

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Speaker 1: it was Okay, we have wall to wall coverage, NCAA tournament,

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Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, but Tom Brady starts getting involved

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Speaker 1: throwing a football. United States Flag Football team versus NFL teams,

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Speaker 1: and it became a thing. I couldn't find live odds though,

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Speaker 1: Yeah I tried, I can. I can say you went

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Speaker 1: wow again, right to the betting, like right, I just

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Speaker 1: thought it was interesting because you can find a line

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Speaker 1: about it just about anything. I thought maybe right the

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Speaker 1: I bet on this? What are we doing? Bet? I

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Speaker 1: see a couple of kids, you know, running on a track,

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Speaker 1: to figure out the odds of that. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I feel like anything I ask you now, your response

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Speaker 1: is gonna have something to do with gambling. Hey, did

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Speaker 1: you go see Project hell Mary this weekend?

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Speaker 1: You know, I couldn't find odds on getting to see

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Speaker 1: so I didn't go. There were no odds on that.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out and say. Outside of the fact

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Speaker 1: How about that. I want to get out. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: get odds on Ryan Gosling potentially winning an oscar next year,

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Speaker 1: so I didn't go see it. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: go see it. No, I mean there were odds on

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Speaker 1: You said it like you looked into it, and you

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Speaker 1: I went back and watched The Dirty Dozen. I tried

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Speaker 1: So the flag football this weekend, right as we get

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. NFL players have talked about wanting to

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Speaker 1: We want to be in the Olympics. Well, we saw

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Speaker 1: And the NFL teams had Brady and Odell Beckham and

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Speaker 1: them out there. Right, these are guys just like anything else.

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Speaker 1: The Team USA guys are practicing flag football all year round, right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah they could, but you got to train for it,

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Speaker 1: I watched that guy go through like seven different players,

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Speaker 1: what I tried to bet on it. Harmon told me, Hey, yay,

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Speaker 3: This is flag football. You have the odds.

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Speaker 1: I watch, I've seen, you know, flag football teams dominate

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Speaker 1: we understand that that the NFL guys didn't look great

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Speaker 1: And it becomes an embarrassing optic for the NFL. Quit

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Speaker 1: it's taking a different specialty. It's a completely different sport.

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Speaker 1: always been speculation that the NFL truly tries to push

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Speaker 1: and will be the one play where he's able to

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Speaker 1: And still the arm works just fine. Whatever, but it

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Speaker 1: coaches and I did the numbers. Four guys that are

430
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Speaker 1: seventy plus two guys sixty to seventy, six guys between

431
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Speaker 1: fifty and sixty, and then you get the kids three

432
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: forty to fifty and shire at thirty eight years old.

433
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: You're talking about veteran names, people again that have long legs,

434
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: even though they've moved programs, whatever, they stir the drink.

435
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: And that's for college buckets. That was the way it was,

436
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: and that dissipated for bit with a couple of defections

437
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 1: very famously. Hey, I don't want to coach in this

438
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: new era. Well, the era has changed and a lot

439
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: of the old heavyweights are back at the top of

440
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: the game. They figured out the system, they figured out

441
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: where to get the money him Cronin, and here they

442
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: are ready for battle. I mean, just for a second

443
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: before you get to let let's go individual and then

444
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: go wider with this. Right, just the fact that here

445
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: is Rick Patino who was done right done in college basketball.

446
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: I see, I'm so old enough to remember when he

447
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: got the gig at Iona and he said this is

448
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Speaker 1: my last stop. Well, this is my last stop. No,

449
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 1: of course I knew he was advocations last stop. This

450
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 1: is my last time, my last stop, guys, it's my

451
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: last time. I'm not going I just want to coach.

452
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: I just want to coach, right, like he's back. You know,

453
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 1: he went from his whole career where he was the

454
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,959
Speaker 1: up and coming young guy and then all of a sudden,

455
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, he won, but he was involved in controversy

456
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: and had followed him throughout his blacktop and blue chips

457
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: showing the guys how to do a bout kids like this.

458
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: You know, I still remember his first tournament when he

459
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: coached Providence back in eighty five and Billy Donovan was

460
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 1: his point guard and they had a big run to

461
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: the final four. And then he gets the gig coach

462
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: and the Knicks and it's like, oh my goodness. And

463
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 1: then he goes back to college and he wins it

464
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: Louisville and he wins at Kentucky and it's just wild,

465
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 1: what this is? Insane? What's going on? But like he's

466
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 1: had the whole He's had the whole gamut. Right, He's

467
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: the He's the guy in the in the movie where

468
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: in the beginning he's all just wide eyed and I

469
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 1: just want to coach. I just want to be here.

470
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: But then by the middle of the movie he's, Hey,

471
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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm playing the game. You know, I'm corrupt,

472
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm doing all these different things. I'm just trying to

473
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Speaker 1: stay one step ahead. And now at the end it's

474
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Speaker 1: I just want to coach again, right, Like at the

475
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Speaker 1: end of the movie, Hey, I just want to go

476
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Speaker 1: coach again. Right. But but I thought, Okay, he plays

477
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,439
Speaker 1: all same, But now here he is at Saint Johnson.

478
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: After a couple of years, they're a beast again. Right,

479
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: They're an absolute beast. Trying to mean, they played a

480
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: horrible game yesterday and they still beat Kansas. They couldn't

481
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Speaker 1: make a shot, they couldn't get any thing going, and

482
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: they still beat Kansas. Man, Like, this is a gritty,

483
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: gutty team that you know, I believed in him last

484
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: year and I was mad, like again, Argie Lewis really

485
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 1: let me down last year. But like you know, I

486
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 1: was nervous yesterday. I'm watching him, going, man, this is

487
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 1: because we're watching the We're watching the games a bunch

488
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: of friends, and of course I'll say to you, hey,

489
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: sports guy, who you have in your Final four? And

490
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: I tell my who's your National title game? I go,

491
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: I got Michigan beating Saint John's. You're like, ooh, so

492
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: you're kind of nervous here. I'm like, yeah, a little bit.

493
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Speaker 1: But you know, they had a ten point lead most

494
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Speaker 1: of the day. But then you know, you get that

495
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: miracle finish where Dylan Darling, who hasn't had a basket

496
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Speaker 1: all day, takes it all the way in horrible defense

497
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Speaker 1: by Kansas. Well just but I mean, but you think

498
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: of Patino and his journey, and it's just how is

499
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: he how is he back here again? Right? Like, I

500
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: don't think we really give credit to how good a

501
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: coach he is just because of things that have happened

502
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: to him throughout his career. The controversy couldn't stay away from.

503
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Speaker 1: But you look at every team he's been to, they win,

504
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: they win big. It doesn't matter. He's starting programs over,

505
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I'm jumping programs in the same state, doesn't matter.

506
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: They love him on half the state. They hate him yet,

507
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I mean, it makes no difference. This is

508
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: Saint John's. This is a guy that should be a dinosaur,

509
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: that should be You're at the end, coach at IONA.

510
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll see you one day in the tournament where

511
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Speaker 1: you win your conference. And boy, be fun to see

512
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Speaker 1: Rick Patino, even though he's coaching against Florida, you know,

513
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 1: and and and Todd Goldener whoever it is. But instead, no, no, no,

514
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: I figured it out again. And I'm here in New

515
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: York and I am winning with big time players and

516
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 1: I figured out nil. And you got to deal with

517
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: me now in the Big East for the next few

518
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: It's not just dealing with Danny Hurley. Now you got

519
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: to deal with it. We don't give him enough credit

520
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: for his career what he's been able to do now

521
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: at this point, No, I think one of the changes

522
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: in this new, modern, new fangled NCAA, you still have

523
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Speaker 1: people get off my long shaking their fist because they

524
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,479
Speaker 1: don't like the way it is. And we certainly had

525
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: a number of coaches that decided, hey, I'm tapping out.

526
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: I had a good run, I don't want to deal

527
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: with this. And then you had others who've been critical

528
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: of the changes and implementation along the way, but believe

529
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: a lot in the coaching side of it and what

530
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: it means to the players and their families and obviously

531
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: to themselves beyond padding their bank accounts. I mean, some

532
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: of the great quotes from Underwood and Izzo. Obviously my

533
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: big ten apologist hat goes on, but some of the

534
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: great clips coming out were from those big ten locker

535
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: rooms and from the pressers talking about what this means.

536
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: But it goes back to Patino, and it's both right.

537
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: There's a I'm good at this, No, I'm great at this.

538
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: What else am I gonna do? I don't want to

539
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: go do TV. I did that in spurts and I

540
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: don't need to do that. And let's face it, the

541
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: game has evolved to the processes, procedures and implementation of

542
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: all of this to what Patino on the basketball side,

543
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: Cal and other guys were always accused of doing. Anyway,

544
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: Now there's just a legitimate structure by which to do it,

545
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: so they have advantage. It was already there. Now it's like, wait, okay,

546
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: I can hire a staff to do this, and money's

547
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: and and partnerships and all of that. It's what they

548
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 1: always wanted to do, right. We'd laughed about it, like

549
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: how many how many people have done it on the

550
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: college football side, laughing about the way things used to operate, going, yeah,

551
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: it just now caught up, and why teams can be

552
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: successful because it's all above board. But for Patino, never

553
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: really a question of whether the guy could coach. It

554
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: was just staying out and staying out of trouble. If

555
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: Saint John's wins the title this year, okay, if Saint

556
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: John's and I you know, you know, I got him

557
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: beating Duke on Thursday. If they win the title, the

558
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: list in college basketball of greatest head coaches ever is

559
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: gonna go John Wooden, Rick Patino, Patino, will I mean,

560
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: even though he won't have the number of titles that

561
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: Mike Krzyzewski Did's got five. Zewski's a Duke for a

562
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: long time. This is Patino winning three titles with three

563
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: different teams, to be fair, though he had well, okay,

564
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: some of it was one two otherwise otherwise, Pete Carroll,

565
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: this submergence not all of the Patino leaving had to

566
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: do with because he had to get out of town.

567
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: You don't know that some of it was he had

568
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: he just left right? So was he just left right

569
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: when he went to the Nicks. He wanted to go

570
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: coach in the NBA, but just yeah, some of it

571
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: is one if you think about winning three titles at

572
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: three different teams, and and and all the final fours

573
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: versus and coach Kse, I mean unbelieve you're talking about

574
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: splitting hairs here, but like I would, I mean, that's

575
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: a bigger achievement to me than when he winning five

576
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: at Duke. Is something right, But when you have that,

577
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: when you have that recruitment going and it's a different

578
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: era and you're going we got new guys coming in,

579
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: new guys coming to all of McDonald's, all Americans. Yeah,

580
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't know that Mike Ruzhevsky is doing that going

581
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: to three other schools. I mean, I don't know if

582
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: he's getting involved in all the other controversies. But you

583
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: know your Patino winning winning, you know, winning in Kentucky

584
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: and winning in Louisville and then winning at Saint John's.

585
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: Like what else does the guy have to do? Yeah,

586
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: it's always questioning. I mean, like it's it's like when

587
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: we talk about baseball players from a certain era, how

588
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: do you know? How do you know it's the You

589
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: just trust because nothing ever truly surfaced. It's gotta be

590
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: right right, and that you like them right. Some guys

591
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 1: go straight to the meeting that might have had some issues,

592
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: but hey, so be it. Like college coach. I've seen

593
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: some folks wondering if if Shire winning, if he were

594
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: able to finish the job this year, whether it diminishes

595
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: coach kine yea in some way, shape or form. Right,

596
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: But certainly in your and my run of watching him

597
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: in Calhoun was fantastic. Royd Williams obviously had a great run,

598
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: old enough to remember the general when he was at

599
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: his best, uh and then had had a decent second

600
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: act with Texas Tech to a degree. But yeah, I

601
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: mean for Rick Patino. I mean there's there's books, there's

602
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: movies that are written about the guy. Come on, I

603
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: mean it's I mean, you think of it. It's insane

604
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: that you know what he's been able to do. I

605
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: mean he's been to really, it's the resume is absurd,

606
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Questions And as you said, it's a running joke.

607
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: And you and I have run this for many a year,

608
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: the old who the hell wants to watch Saint John's

609
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: when they would be thrust onto the national level even

610
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: when they weren't great, it was here they are, and say,

611
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: because they're from New York, so clearly we're gonna put

612
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: them in the window. Man time now to find out

613
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: what's trending in the wide world of sports with someone

614
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: who's been called the Rick Patino of Fox Sports Radio.

615
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: He often comes in wearing a white suit as well.

616
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: It's Steve de.

617
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Speaker 3: Sega and a white tie and a white hat. No,

618
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Speaker 3: not really.

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Speaker 5: The Men's Sweet Sixteen starts Thursday night with Purdue against

620
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Speaker 5: Texas and Nebraska against Iowa, both after seven pm Eastern time.

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Speaker 5: The NIT quarterfinals start on Tuesday by the way. The

622
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 5: weeknight primetime games last week in the NCAA is, including

623
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Speaker 5: VCU's upset of North Carolina average twelve and a half

624
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Speaker 5: million viewers. VCU today gave coach Phil Martelli Junior a

625
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 5: two year extension through twenty thirty two. Creighton's Greg McDermott

626
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 5: will retire next month after sixteen years there. Arizona State's

627
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 5: new men's coach is Randy Bennett from Saint Mary's, where

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00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 5: he'd been since two thousand and one. Utah States Jered

629
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 5: Calhoun is leaving for Cincinnati, his alma mater at Cincinnati.

630
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 5: Coach Wes Miller got the Charlotte job. One late game

631
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 5: in women's hoops to finish the second round of the

632
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 5: NCAA Tournament one seed. UCLA's lead is down to sixty

633
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 5: four to fifty over Oklahoma State. Early in the fourth

634
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Speaker 5: Virginia Today won at Iowa in double overtime. Virginia's won

635
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 5: three games in five days. Notre Dame was a winner

636
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 5: at Ohio State. Kentucky won seventy four to seventy three

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Speaker 5: at West Virginia. Louisville won sixty nine sixty eight over Alabama.

638
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 5: Vandy defeated Illinois. Number one seed South Carolina got a

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Speaker 5: home win against USC. The other USC one oh one

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Speaker 5: sixty one and number one Yukon now thirty six and

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Speaker 1: Fox Giants Running Back. Camp scataboo had a pretty eventful

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Speaker 1: weekend thanks to his recent appearance on The bring The

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Speaker 1: juice Podcast Right. Now there was a lot of cont

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Speaker 1: over this this weekend in which on this podcast he

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Speaker 1: sparked some controversy by CALLING cte AND asthma fake or

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Speaker 1: excuses if you can't get it done on the field.

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Speaker 1: LATE cte is. Fake, WAIT asthma is. Fake, yes this

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Speaker 1: Was Cam scattaboo from The bring The juice podcast this.

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Speaker 1: Weekend do you think ct is a real? Thing, no

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Speaker 1: that's an.

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Speaker 3: EXCUSE i think we'll.

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Speaker 1: Just stop it right. There, YEAH i mean, wow. Man

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Speaker 1: uh he put out a statement after this gets. OUT

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Speaker 1: i mean there was more to it of him talking about.

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Speaker 1: Asthma one of the uh the hosts, said you, know

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Speaker 1: what's it like when you're fourth grade and someone's huffing and,

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Speaker 1: puffing and he was, All asthma's fake. Too he put

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Speaker 1: out a statement on social, Media so Either Cam's kataboo

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Speaker 1: thought about it or has somebody good working form in

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Speaker 1: social media where he apologized for his. Statements didn't SAY

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Speaker 1: i didn't mean this to be out there as a.

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Speaker 1: TAKE i didn't think it was. FAKE i don't think it's. Fake,

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Speaker 1: look there's two things with, this. Right, One i'm gonna

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Speaker 1: Give samskataboo a little bit of a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a pass on that he's got to be smarter. About

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Speaker 1: the other thing is he obviously has certain beliefs ON

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Speaker 1: cte and. Asthma, right and he's he looks like the

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Speaker 1: original tough, guy, right doesn't he come from the original tough?

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Speaker 2: Guy?

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Speaker 1: Right i'll play football without a, helmet, right like that

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Speaker 1: that's being. Stupid that that That's Cam, kataboy, right that's

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Speaker 1: what we've seen, him you, know going back to college

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Speaker 1: is running style with with with the, giants running, physical.

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Speaker 1: Right but you could tell that he you know when

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Speaker 1: he when when it comes TO cte and, asthma there's certain,

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Speaker 1: Things OH i think it's, Fake like maybe he thinks

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Speaker 1: ct is. Overblown maybe it's. Not this is WHERE i

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Speaker 1: would hope that For cam'skataboo's, sake someone talks to him and, says,

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Speaker 1: hey just so you, know this is. Science LIKE cte

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Speaker 1: is a pretty big. DEAL nfl players have their brains

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Speaker 1: donated after they're done playing because they want they don't

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Speaker 1: want people to have to go through what they went.

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Speaker 1: Through want to make sure there's better, helmets better, equipment

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Speaker 1: better safety for. Players BEFORE i, MEAN i know you're

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Speaker 1: a rookie and he likes to, talk and he likes the.

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Speaker 1: Spotlight educate yourself a little bit before you say something

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Speaker 1: like this on a, podcast, Right, like educate yourself because

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Speaker 1: you sound, bad you sound. Stupid now he did go

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Speaker 1: on and apologize for. It and the other part of

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Speaker 1: it is this BECAUSE i because it's not OFTEN i

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Speaker 1: think This mike about, podcasts but athletes sometimes have to

741
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Speaker 1: understand where they are when they say statements like, this

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Speaker 1: like you see this video and here's a podcast and

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00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: you're just, Talking you're just talking with the, hosts, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: man is there anything worse than some some kid in

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Speaker 1: fourth grade right huffing and? Puffing? Yeah, yeah, man there

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Speaker 1: was a kid like that AND i remember in fourth

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Speaker 1: grade and he was. Fine he faked an asthma attack

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Speaker 1: or whatever it. Was and you don't understand this guy

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Speaker 1: doesn't care about you and he is trying to get.

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Speaker 1: Clicks he's trying to get you to say something that

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Speaker 1: is going to get you in, trouble, right or you

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Speaker 1: go back to The puka nakua, stuff, right, dude you

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Speaker 1: gotta understand not every podcast host is out there and

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Speaker 1: it just wants to talk to you and is hoping

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Speaker 1: your name or you say. Something they're trying to actively

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Speaker 1: find a way to push your buttons because they FEEL i,

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Speaker 1: KNOW i can get this guy to say. Something and

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Speaker 1: when you have the kind of atmosphere where it just

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Speaker 1: feels like you're hanging out talking to guys and isn't

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Speaker 1: this the. Worst isn't this the? Worst oh, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah you lose where you are a little, bit, right

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Speaker 1: which is the difference why some people can talk on

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Speaker 1: the radio AND tv and some people. Can't some people

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Speaker 1: have long careers doing this and some people don't because

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Speaker 1: they can't take that WHAT i think about things and

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Speaker 1: put it on camera or on the radio and say

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Speaker 1: what they want to. Say, instead they fall victim to

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Speaker 1: here's a guy that runs this show and the lights

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Speaker 1: are bright and we're having, fun and it's just a

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Speaker 1: really loose. Atmosphere and then Why i'm saying things and

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Speaker 1: looking bad because cam'scattabull looks really bad with. This but

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Speaker 1: that's the other, part is that you can tell this

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Speaker 1: gonna have cam'scttabou while we're gonna talk about. Stuff, right

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Speaker 1: you gotta watch where you go and watch what you

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Speaker 1: talk to because you see the. Trouble you can get

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Speaker 1: in really easily when you forget where you. Are understand.

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Speaker 1: It you're not just talking to a, guy, Right you

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Speaker 1: are saying something that people are gonna, hear and if

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Speaker 1: it's something that's really, controversial it's gonna get out and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna look.

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Speaker 3: Bad.

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Speaker 1: YEAH i mean we've had plenty of interviews in our

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Speaker 1: years together here on air where folks get a little.

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Speaker 1: LOOSE i mean the friend they become friends of the.

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Speaker 1: Show we start talking as, like, OH i got a

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Speaker 1: story for, you and all of a suddenly goes off

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Speaker 1: the rails and you're, like, YEAH i don't know that

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Speaker 1: you necessarily wanted to go all the way there with.

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Speaker 1: IT i appreciate the, candor but remember, again you're on the,

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Speaker 1: radio to your, point, recorded uh and live and in

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Speaker 1: app that is, intergalactic so it's going to to folks

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Speaker 1: in other. Worlds, uh what's? Gettub BUT i wonder if

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Speaker 1: some of it wasn't just kind of the hyped Up, yeah,

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Speaker 1: no it's all, fake you, know just a because he's

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Speaker 1: kind of Like Kevin willard firing his staff a halftime

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Speaker 1: With shatty and her looking at him like wait what

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Speaker 1: he didn't know he did say, listen it was meant

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Speaker 1: to be. SARCASTIC i think his mom is like everything

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Speaker 1: so as mom was LIKE i used to have to

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Speaker 1: run with it in. Haler, yeah but this is where you, Understand,

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Speaker 1: okay you got a good dude when you, go but

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Speaker 1: don't joke ABOUT. Ct there's things you can joke. About

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Speaker 1: don't joke ABOUT. Ct even if he just did the

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Speaker 1: asthma stuff would be, like, okay BUT, Ct, like, dude

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Speaker 1: this is a really big, Thing like it's been a

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Speaker 1: big topic in THE nfl for. People kill. Them we're

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Speaker 1: talking about as was a real. Thing but the fact

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Speaker 1: that he, was like as a football player to go

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Speaker 1: on and DISMISS, ct it's, like whoa, Dude, man that's

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Speaker 1: a that's that's. Something, no they're both bad What i'm

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Speaker 1: But i'm saying when a football player goes on and

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Speaker 1: talks about how BAD ct, is it makes it even, worse,

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Speaker 1: Right like it's it's it's just the optic is even.

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Speaker 1: Worse when here's a guy that does what he does

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Speaker 1: for a living and he knows about you, know should

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Speaker 1: and should know about the history OF cte and to

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Speaker 1: still have it come off as a, joke it's, like, wow,

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Speaker 1: man like, that that's a that's a really difficult. Thing

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Speaker 1: that bad luck difficult obviously for the team and his

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Speaker 1: reps and for the league. Itself i'm sure he got

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Speaker 1: a couple of phone calls from phone up the ranks

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Speaker 1: to kind of remind them of what the last twenty

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Speaker 1: years of. Research how far back do we? Go we

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Speaker 1: Had Chris nowitzky on, right and in terms of all

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Speaker 1: the research he's done former football player and wrestler and

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Speaker 1: and everything that goes. In So i'm sure this will

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Speaker 1: now be highlighted in the in the next round of.

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Speaker 1: Discussions just, hey we need to keep educating. People it's not.

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Speaker 1: Done and that's all of that yet and all of

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Speaker 1: these latent health, concerns cte, asthma, anything because how many

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Speaker 1: times do we see all, right high school player eighteen

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Speaker 1: years old collapse all right for a million, Reasons so

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Speaker 1: like it's all you, know jokes until it's. Not, look

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Speaker 1: and that's why the education is the best. Part he's

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Speaker 1: a young player and he's gonna people are gonna talk

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Speaker 1: to him a. Lot he's gonna be a star in

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Speaker 1: THE nfl for a. While he's become a cultier. Already it's, like,

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Speaker 1: hey how about you learn about some. Stuff and this

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Speaker 1: is where this is where we, go so something like

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Speaker 1: this doesn't happen, again, right that's, right that's. RIGHT i,

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Speaker 1: say this is the best thing for you to understand

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Speaker 1: that this is the. Case we see you also talk

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Speaker 1: about it for the education part of. It the style

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Speaker 1: of contact. Exit how about a fresca At Swollen. Dome

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Speaker 1: Jason Smith Mike Carmon live from The Fox Sports Radio.

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