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Speaker 1: She is absolutely lovely. I've known her for oh my god,

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Speaker 1: this is so Calval Hello, beautiful little girl.

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Speaker 2: I'm how loud, gorgeous she is.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I was just nice.

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Speaker 1: I was just, oh, hold on one second now, Christy,

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Speaker 1: ten dollars supersticker. Christy, thank you so much, dear to you.

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Speaker 1: You have two entries in the Charles Chip Jar. We

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Speaker 1: We are now willing to go.

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Speaker 2: You're generous, You're a magnanimous superstar, mis friend, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I was just I didn't

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Speaker 1: I told her you have you have to get out

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Speaker 2: I was like maximum sixteen. Because you hear these wa

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Speaker 2: going back that far, which, by the way, so great

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Speaker 2: I always tell people, like how long you've been in wrestling?

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, a long damn time because one of

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Speaker 2: these shows, for example, you remember we went to Well

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Speaker 2: you guys went to Dave and Busters and the cab

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Speaker 2: had to drop me off early because I wasn't eighteen.

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Speaker 1: To go in. Yes, and we would have got you

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Speaker 1: Two dollars super child? Hello?

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Speaker 3: Is that currency?

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Speaker 2: Please, can we individually say a big happy birthday to Jamie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, happy birthday, doll and we appreciate you coming

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Speaker 2: And listen, I think we should all be able to

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Speaker 1: Have lovely legs. By the way, well thanks, yes, both

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Speaker 2: So I grew on myself both they're real. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Each? No? Less from you?

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Speaker 2: DLF Okay, listen, okay, thanks golf okye. So I was

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Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god, music to my ears.

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Speaker 2: I would love to do this, you know. Can I

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Speaker 2: And I totally remember telling you that because you were,

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Speaker 2: a great thing, and you were so lovely with me.

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Speaker 2: And I said to you, I've never had a one

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Speaker 2: a mixed tag, but this is a totally different animal

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Speaker 2: to go head to head one on one in a

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Speaker 2: match that's live on pay per views, So that will

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Speaker 2: explain my lack of skill.

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Speaker 1: And no, first of all, I feel like we get

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Speaker 1: asked about this a lot because we're barefoot. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: What, for those watching you like what you like. I

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Speaker 1: I always that pretty tame.

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Speaker 2: Now when you get into some other weird stuff, which

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, yeah, yeah, Because I I think I was

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Speaker 2: I have no idea. And you know, we've had so

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Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, was it safer. Probably not.

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Speaker 1: But we did our best, Yeah, we did, and One

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Speaker 2: And I'm so glad to you I mentioned that because honestly,

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Speaker 2: I'm such a girl's girl, which is funny because I

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Speaker 2: and I always say with things like that, like I'm

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Speaker 2: I genuinely wouldn't have done it. I did not feel uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: The guy wasn't. Jemmy was so funny.

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Speaker 2: But again, but I'm being super I'm not trying to

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Speaker 2: I was fine with it. I really was. It was

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Speaker 2: never a thing, even damn call. He was always lovely

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Speaker 2: So I was like, eh, whatever.

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Speaker 1: It was perfect and you you did not look uncomfortable

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Speaker 1: off of you big creep, because you know.

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Speaker 3: Move ahead a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I would have been like no, but I really I wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Told you guys got twenty three minutes of play.

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Speaker 1: This is the finish. I won't they all start there?

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Speaker 2: We go, well, how.

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Speaker 1: Young she is though? And tell me that doesn't look

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Speaker 1: like a dad trying to pick up a young lovely

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, look at him. God, I got to

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Speaker 2: I was like, all I'm looking at is I'm going like, okay,

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Speaker 2: that's weird. The kissing's weird.

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Speaker 1: I love my house, and I.

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Speaker 2: Just I just thought I wasn't character. I thought this

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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, if you did a movie about

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Speaker 2: a foot weirdo, would you do it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, as long as as long as people are

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Speaker 1: with it. But when you don't know what's going on,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look your legs up in the air, it's

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Speaker 1: like brilliant. Calm down a little bit. Five dollars super

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Speaker 1: chat from our fabulous friend Lawn Hi fabulous free scenes.

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Speaker 1: So Chad, a question for you. What was your all

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Speaker 1: time favorite X Division movement you witnessed in TNA or impact.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, ln Lah, thank you so much, sweetheart.

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Speaker 2: I will tell you that I don't know it's my

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Speaker 2: you know run throughs and stuff, people would be trying

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Speaker 2: I would just sit there before the show and go,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing? Like stop? It just freaked me

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Speaker 2: out because it wasn't match time. The Ultimate X matches

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Speaker 2: these shows, sometimes they would pan to me, hopefully not

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Speaker 2: too much, but I am such a crier. I'm such

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Speaker 2: tears because those exhivision matches were so so, so dangerous.

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Speaker 2: People that stick out to me, for example, Chris Saban's

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Speaker 2: that I will never forget because I don't think anything's

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Speaker 2: been done like it ever since. Then, thank you for

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Speaker 2: the question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And they just panned on your feet and

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Speaker 1: your feet look really cute.

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Speaker 2: Well thanks, I myself. Also, they're real, They're real. Okay,

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Speaker 2: good to my feet yet?

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Speaker 1: Yeah my feet I dirtied on purpose. Oh okay, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I scuffed them up in the back just too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just to be a little little on the dirty side.

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Speaker 2: Brandy, your body is insane.

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Speaker 1: You know, look at me, No, how babe, it is

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Speaker 1: definitely insane.

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Speaker 2: And I remember first seeing you and being like, I

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Speaker 2: just you know what, because you've looked different than the girls.

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Speaker 2: You were never like super Jack, which no, you know,

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Speaker 2: I love all esthetic a beautiful but but but I

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Speaker 2: liked that. I loved your look. I just thought it

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Speaker 2: was such a ninety supermodel look. But with bigger, more

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Speaker 2: ample bosom, which I wanted. So yeah, oh look I'm

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Speaker 2: taunting you and I'm pointing to my feet. Oh hilarious,

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Speaker 2: there you going, Tony.

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Speaker 1: Tony LaRusso five dollars super truck, paying my respects to

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Speaker 1: the one and only Queen of extreme frean scene. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Tony and the wonderful Soulcale. Now thanks Tony. You're in

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Speaker 1: the Charles chip yard as well. Yeah, we'll thank you.

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Speaker 1: I used to eat abundantly back then and couldn't gain

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Speaker 1: announce and now it's any grape and I gained twenty pounds,

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Speaker 1: So I now that's the way of the world.

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Speaker 2: But uh, you know how it works.

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Speaker 1: It is how it works. But this was this was written.

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Speaker 1: This match was written on an airplane the week before

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Speaker 1: I wrote it the and we went the night before

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that I said this? For some reason,

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Speaker 2: first of all, I didn't enjoy it. I didn't I'm

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Speaker 2: Ire was like a peach true, and I did tell

435
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 2: you that I could not, for the effing life of me,

436
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 2: ever take a DDT, even in ring divas and things

437
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 2: that I did without hitting my head. And I very

438
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 2: often in matches I would cry. I'm a crier. I

439
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 2: just I would get hurt and I did not because

440
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm so hurt.

441
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 1: I don't know.

442
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 2: I just I have like a I'm a very sensitive person,

443
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 2: and especially when I would hit my head, I would

444
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:51,399
Speaker 2: just cry.

445
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,760
Speaker 1: Mickey Di says, I refuse to believe Veill doesn't wrestle.

446
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,919
Speaker 2: Love you, Mickey d all the way in Australia, Ozzie,

447
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 2: she's wrestling right here, and look how wonderful she's doing.

448
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: I'm trying. That was okay, right, Look at that.

449
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: This was not bad. This was not a bad match.

450
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 1: I really don't think it is for anything.

451
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: No, baby, this is like Rocky training. I don't know

452
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 2: that Tommy Gun horrible kid in Rocky five, Like this

453
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: is that's what that is. That's what you're watching right now.

454
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: You took to this very quickly. I've said that so

455
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 1: many times. I mean, look, we're not This isn't Malenko

456
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 1: and Guerrero. I'll be the first to admit it. But

457
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 1: this wasn't bad for what it was. We were expanding

458
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: the story, you know what I mean.

459
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 2: And that's what I had done with it because it

460
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 2: was a story.

461
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 1: It was a part of the storyline. Yeah. Oh, and

462
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 1: then we had the smoke come down and ODB come down,

463
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 1: and oh it was perfect. It was fun.

464
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: And listen, all that thick ass hair of mine really

465
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 2: helps in some beautiful I will say.

466
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 1: That your hair was beautiful. And I didn't bother doomline

467
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: n evening. So yeah, there we go. There we go.

468
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: Now you you you need to realize that hold on

469
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 1: the p w L right, everybody stop, the p WO

470
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 1: is here. They never had the same women in the

471
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,719
Speaker 1: p w L every month, it varied.

472
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 2: Is that Bobcat? Yes, it's Oh my god, what a

473
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 2: sweety pie. I loved her.

474
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 1: I just looked to her.

475
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 2: Can you tell her? I love her so much? She

476
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: was And let me tell you my my tenure in

477
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 2: w e W all women. And I'm telling you, I

478
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: cannot remember one, honestly, one moment where someone was rude

479
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 2: to me or condescending, honestly, and I have moments of

480
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,719
Speaker 2: that in other companies. W E W. Never it was

481
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: such a sisterhood and being such a girl's girl again,

482
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: I mean, everyone was such fun and took such great

483
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 2: care of each other.

484
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, no arguments. It was just the party. It was

485
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: just a party. And I think you and I just

486
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: roomed together once. I remember you and I roomed together

487
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: one time, but I don't know if that's because I

488
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: don't I don't know.

489
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: Sorry, It's it's so funny for me to see myself, okay,

490
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 2: and I'm actually I'm actually kind of proud here, but

491
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: it's so weird for me to see myself not an

492
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: athletic person, like literally look at me and like literally

493
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: do things I was taking you and I kind of

494
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: went like this, like come on, like that's just not

495
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: in my nature. It's just not me.

496
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: Fired I'm telling you.

497
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: Tory Wilson always said that because I'm such a mark

498
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 2: for her. She always said like even Stacy, she said,

499
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: would get like more into the punches and get like aggressive,

500
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 2: and Tory was just like, I feel bad. She never

501
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: had a bone in her body that felt right about it.

502
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 2: I really related to that. I mean not entirely, but

503
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 2: like very much more so to the Tory side.

504
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's where the acting ability comes in, and

505
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: you true, you just can't look at you.

506
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 3: You can't tell oh in a stunner we were doing.

507
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: You're you're you're kicking the shoot out of me is

508
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: what you Oh my god, I wish.

509
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if my husband's ever seen this, but

510
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: I would love him too, because he would be effing

511
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: hang on.

512
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: Ref distraction, that's right. The smoke that lousy. You know

513
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: he does cosplay now player, Yeah, he goes. The last

514
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: time I saw him, he was doing he was this big,

515
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: big monster at a convention that I was at. He

516
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: starts talking to me and I and I'm and he's like,

517
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: you know who I am? And then when he showed me,

518
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: I was like, it's smoke.

519
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god. Yeah, he's a celebrity cameo.

520
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: That would have been tell me about it, but now

521
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: you're going to the.

522
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: Top up just doing what I think is correct.

523
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: Look at her, amazing.

524
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: I can't even believe myself is this it is this different?

525
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: Look at that butt? Oh no, see.

526
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 2: Us, I can't.

527
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: I'm telling you this is great, absolutely great.

528
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 2: I am still I remember this.

529
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: I said, you remember what I did doing this? Yeah?

530
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: You remember what I said, They'll put those hands up, yes, man,

531
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: beautiful face and put those hands up.

532
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: And I remember people were like, you took a chair

533
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 2: shot to the face, and I'm like, I did. She

534
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: that's a that's a badge of honor. Thanks to you,

535
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: miss Francie.

536
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: It's great you didn't complain this. This is not bad. Chad.

537
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: Do you think this was bad for somebody who wrestled

538
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: the day in her life? Ever?

539
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: No, never.

540
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 3: I think when people hear the match, they think they're

541
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 3: just gonna see, you know, the spectacle, and they're gonna

542
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 3: hear the gimmick and you get the wrestling, and I

543
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: don't think they expect that.

544
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: This was You were dead weight on that, by the way.

545
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: I believe you. Look, it was a little I think, Fanny,

546
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: do you agree that. I think because it was barefoot

547
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 2: in a weird way, well, in an obvious way, it

548
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 2: took away from the fact that it was a one

549
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: on one match that people people know this match, but

550
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: all they know is I'm gonna look up the barefoot match.

551
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: They don't actually think of it as being a match.

552
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: And now that I'm watching it back, I'm even more

553
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: proud of us than I remembered.

554
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: It had moves. I mean, we did, we wrestled. It

555
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: was wrestling. It wasn't I don't think it could be

556
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: considered like a bra and panty match or a fluff match.

557
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: There was wrestling involved. And that's why I'm so proud

558
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: of you, because you you didn't have a lot of experience,

559
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: you know, and just going over it a couple times

560
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: the night before you did great.

561
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I are you so much? Thank you

562
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: so much, And honestly, it was it was fun. I'm

563
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: very proud of this match. And again people bring it

564
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 2: up to me all the time, and I think it's

565
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 2: because of the barefoot, which is fine. And again, if

566
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: you like what you like, I'm not here to judge.

567
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: Good for you. Thank you, appreciate the compliment of the feet.

568
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 2: Thank you. But like you said, the athleticism that we

569
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 2: that we tried to portray and the story that we

570
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: tried to tell, I think we did a great job.

571
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: But I'm so proud of us. Honestly, yes, I'm proud

572
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: of this match.

573
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: This was a good time. Angela agrees. She says, I

574
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: do not have one athletic bone in my body. And

575
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: she also bruises like Peach, you're not alone, veil, and

576
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: she's also a friend of Tory and Stacey. Angela cheers.

577
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: Angela's great, We love you, Thank you all. Yeah, that

578
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: was fun. Wew as much as people criticize it or

579
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: make fun of it, like you said, the camaraderie was there.

580
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: We never fought. Everybody got along. Everybody just went out

581
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: there and had a good time. Yeah, I loved it.

582
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: I loved going in every month for that company. I

583
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: told Dan, if we could do this every week, it

584
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: would be wonderful.

585
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: And I almost wish they had done Granted again, you know,

586
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: cofew of us had well, a lot of us had

587
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: an issue with kind of like not being told so

588
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: much about the adult side of things. Were we involved

589
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: in that, No, but you know, having it spliced in

590
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 2: that was kind of annoying. But there there were some

591
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: really great moments there. There was a lot of great

592
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: talent there, and like you said, if we could have

593
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: done it as if it was like a TV taping

594
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: situation or filmed like every two weeks or like even

595
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: once a month and done like some TV tapings and

596
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: backstage promost they spent so much time on. It's just

597
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: something I really feel like is lacking an independent wrestling nowadays,

598
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: where w e you whether you liked it or not,

599
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: or whether you're not familiar with it if you go

600
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: back and watch. They were very heavy on storylines, backstage promos, vignettes,

601
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: and like building characters, and that's something which is funny.

602
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: You wouldn't think. People don't think of it for that reason.

603
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: Same thing with the Barefoot match. They think, oh, barefoot

604
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: women's wrestling, it's a bit hokey, but actually at the

605
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: core of it, it was really really a little well

606
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: quite before it's time.

607
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: I think I agree with you, and I feel like

608
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: because of the porn aspect, because without that we didn't

609
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: have the slot right, the pay per view slot. We

610
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: had to incorporate the pornography, and that's the only reason

611
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: why that was included in it. So Michael's Wrestling Channel

612
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: ten dollars, Superchad High, Francceine, I didn't know that you

613
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: wrestled to Calvell. I remember meeting you virtually on The

614
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: Asylum last year.

615
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: Thank you, Michael's Wrestling Channel, cheers to you. I love

616
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 2: the Asylum guys as well. They're fabulous, aren't they.

617
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: Friends Yes, absolutely, and Michael, you got two entries into

618
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: the Charles Chip Yards.

619
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: I think that's the cool part about it. It's almost

620
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: like the bait and switch. You expect to just be like,

621
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: you know, well, it's supposed to be the Barefoot is

622
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: the Cell. But then you guys actually put together a

623
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: good match with a little psychology and you actually have

624
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 3: some moves in it. Then you know, kept the match

625
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: going pretty well. So kudos to both you.

626
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: What I was going to say is I think we

627
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: got a lot of slack because it was kind of

628
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: a running joke in the industry. If you look at

629
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: the women that that I don't want to say manipulated

630
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: that that's not the word I'm trying to say. A

631
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: lot of those women were told that they needed like

632
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: sexy names, they needed to dress a certain way. Like

633
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: when I went in there, they weren't going to tell

634
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: me my name was going to be something with hoe

635
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: in it, or you know, everybody everyone girl was a

636
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: hoe like it was like, you know, you had to

637
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: be a schoolgirl, or you had to dance on a pole,

638
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: or you had to do so I feel like in

639
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: one aspect you had the legitimate workers, yeah, and then

640
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: on the other side, it was like the poorn girls

641
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: or the strippers that really didn't get the wrestling, but

642
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: we needed them because they added that sex appeal that

643
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: we weren't going to give them because we were the wrestlers,

644
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it had but it

645
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: had a good combination of both. But when people watch that,

646
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: they don't look at the good wrestling part. They look

647
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: at that other side and that's.

648
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: All they're remembering. Yeah, and I think again, you know,

649
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,239
Speaker 2: being being a feminist and being a girl's girl, like

650
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with being in the adult industry or

651
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: being a stripper. That's all fantastic and you know, up

652
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: to your judgment. But you know, for that reason, it

653
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: was a bit confusing where there were actual wrestlers, girls

654
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: like me who weren't really wrestlers but wanted to be,

655
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: you know, more on the independent scene as managers or

656
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: you know, people that talked whatever, but then incorporating people

657
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: that really and that's really not on them either like

658
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: you know, somebody in the adult industry or in the

659
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: you know, stripper industry, whatever you want to call it.

660
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: For lack of a better term, I should say, you know,

661
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: I don't know exotic dancer. It really wasn't on them

662
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: that they didn't know what to do or they didn't

663
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: understand wrestling because they're coming from nowhere. I'll give you

664
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: an example for example, in TENA wrestling. I always call

665
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: it that impact wrestling. They weren't you know, in exotic

666
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: dancers or in the adult industry per se, but they

667
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: were models and they would come in and they would

668
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: know who Rick Flair was, and some of the girls,

669
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: only a few, but some of a select few would go, well,

670
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: you know, they don't know who the hell were wrestling,

671
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: and they'm like, yeah, But as models, you get hired

672
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: to do all kinds of things from an agency, and

673
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: that's you know, that's not their fault. As long as

674
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: they come in, they're nice, they introduce themselves, they're respectful,

675
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 2: they're not bitches about things, they're not socially rude. Fine,

676
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: I've done as a model. I was hired to do

677
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: Indie car you know, Daytona five hundred type stuff. I

678
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: didn't know the sport, but I was hired to be there,

679
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,239
Speaker 2: and I showed respect to the sport and said, I'm

680
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: here to learn and I'm here to promote the brand,

681
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: and there you go. It's not that different. So for

682
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: some reason, I think because wrestling is such an inclusive thing,

683
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: which in a way is great. In another way, it's

684
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: like we sometimes shun people outside of the business, Whereas,

685
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: if you think about it, a lot of girls that

686
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: are now hugely famous, for example, Debasearch girls had nothing

687
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: to do with rust and they were models. Hello Bella Twins,

688
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: Christy hemy Maria. I don't know if I let any

689
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: of them actually like wrestling. My point is they were

690
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 2: not wrestling girls who were killing it on the indies

691
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: for years. Right, Are we going to hold it against

692
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: them that they didn't know the business until they started.

693
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: Now look at them, they're doing amazing things. So you

694
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 2: got to give people a chance, whether it's girls or guys.

695
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: You got to just go listen. As long as they're

696
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: there and they're respectful, they're coming from a good place

697
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: in their heart to respect the business. Let's give them

698
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: a damn chance, can't we. That's so hard.

699
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: Give them a chance, but they also need to want

700
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: to learn. Yes, and I've seen a lot of girls

701
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: not even take the time to Like you did you

702
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: you went back and you studied, right. I used to

703
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: study Sherry Martell because I loved Sherry like she was

704
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: like everything to me. But you know, we we love

705
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: the business, so we study the craft. If I'm a

706
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: model and I get a phone call, hey, you're going

707
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: to go on TNA wrestling, and you know you're you're

708
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: gonna do this whatever, in my mind, I need to

709
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: go and find some TNA wrestling tapes and kind of

710
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: study and no, and I'm not saying you have to

711
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: go back to the nineteen fifties and you know, old school,

712
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: but know what's going on, because if you don't, the

713
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: higher ups are going to take that as you don't care.

714
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would you do with any any industry.

715
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

716
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: I always say do your homework is the biggest thing.

717
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: I say, do your homework. And you know, you don't

718
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: want to be even like me doing comic cons and

719
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: interviewing people if I don't do my little homework of

720
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: someone's career, and it could be you know I'm doing

721
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: you know twelve. I think this weekend at Comic Con,

722
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: I made a I can't listen. I can't have seen

723
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: every movie and TV show twelve casts are in, right,

724
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: but I have to do my homework and be as

725
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: respectful as I can be and try to do my

726
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: homework and whatever. And when they don't put in the work,

727
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: I agree with you for it, that's when it gets insulting.

728
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 2: And I think that's how you read out the weak

729
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: ones in the herd, right, because you can tell when

730
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: someone just be asking to be there because they want

731
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: to be on TV, or the girls who are like, listen,

732
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: I really have respect for this business. Lisa talks about

733
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 2: all the time how she was in the fitness world

734
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: and she didn't know wrestling until she was brought in

735
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: and then she put in, I mean put her whole

736
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: heart and soul into it. And now look, she's one

737
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: of the most respected influential women in wrestling ever.

738
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: She is. And I agree with you one hundred percent.

739
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: Our friend, Vinnie, hope you are all having a wonderful week. Vinnie,

740
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 1: We love you two in the trahip chart for you, Vinnie,

741
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: Now you mentioned you were in TENA. How many years

742
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: I was there? For nine years, nine years.

743
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you.

744
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: I watch you and your interviews now. I'm amazed at

745
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: how fluent you are with your questions and your demean

746
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: You're wonderful at it is something that you always wanted

747
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: to do, like progress from wrestling to just doing like

748
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: this interviewing because you are really really good and I'm

749
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: not just blowing smooke. I watch you and I'm just like,

750
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: my god, it's just it rolls off the tongue. You

751
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: look so comfortable with these people.

752
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: Thank you.

753
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really really nice to watch you in that realm,

754
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

755
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's like the nicest compient ever. Thank

756
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: you so much.

757
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: You know.

758
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: I think when I was in wrestling, when I was

759
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: about eleven twelve, watching it and like all I wanted

760
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: to do was be a wrestling manager and being wrestling,

761
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: and then when I kind of got into wrestling, and

762
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: then like say I got you know, signed in about

763
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: two thousand and four with Impact Wrestling, I was, you know,

764
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 2: ring girls, and I thought, okay, well I just want

765
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 2: to be a manager all this stuff, So I really wasn't.

766
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: I always knew I wanted to be kind of more

767
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: of the talking person and the manager side, so like

768
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: the talking not really a physical wrestler, but as far

769
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: as the interviews and stuff like that, I mean I

770
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: always was like, if you think about it, I was

771
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: always kind of doing like, you know, filming myself and videos,

772
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: and here I am doing movies. I was more of

773
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: the acting side. But then as far as the presenter

774
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: host side, I started to get thank you Scott, Yeah,

775
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 2: oh my god.

776
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: Chad, what's up Chad? For your seene so Calville. I

777
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: enjoyed the Jay and Sonjay story back in two thousand

778
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: and eight and TNA, oh.

779
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: My god, thank you so much, Scott. Cheers to Scott.

780
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. By the way, gotcha, Vemo, just

781
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 2: a little quick little pub we're gonna we're gonna put

782
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 2: all your projects over.

783
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: I just can I just read babies? Yeah, okay, we're

784
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna answer this next. What are your thoughts on Sable?

785
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: Do you think? Can you keep that up?

786
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: Because I want to answer that.

787
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, the rumor for turning down the Hall of Fame

788
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: is true. I would love to see her in the whole.

789
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: Thing continue and then we'll just to just to finish

790
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: my long win an answer there. Basically, I think you know,

791
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: after my storyline with with Jay and Sonja, which by

792
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: the way, he was a sweet and mentioned that thank

793
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 2: you so much, I kind of thought, okay, so you know, Jay,

794
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 2: Lethal and sand are now out of Impact Wrestling. I

795
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: want to have longevity in the business, so being a

796
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: ring girl that's not gonna be a thing forever. And

797
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 2: then people like Jeremy Borash, David Sahati and Mike Weber

798
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 2: and Impact Wrestling were like, especially Mike Weber, actually letting

799
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 2: me like write my own scripts, create my own backstage content,

800
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: interview wrestlers, all these things, and that's what I really

801
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: went this, this is what I want to do, Like,

802
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: that's really that's where I get my It just feels

803
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 2: like me to be a host, to be an interviewer.

804
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: And then now you know, I haven't related too much

805
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: outside of wrestling, which you know, to wrestling's credit, I'm

806
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: thrilled to say that. When I moved to England, I

807
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,479
Speaker 2: kind of thought, okay, twenty thirteen or so, I thought, okay,

808
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: so I'll transition outside of wrestling. Then I got a

809
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: great job on ITV, one of the biggest networks here

810
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: in England, and that was a great thing. That was

811
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: wrestling commentary on WOS World of Sport Wrestling. Then I

812
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: kept getting wrestling bookings. Now I do a lot of

813
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: comic cons as well, which the comic cons are fun.

814
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: I hate to say it, but because it's outside of wrestling,

815
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: I'm interviewing celebrities, it's totally not They don't know who's

816
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: so cal not that anyone would, but who's so cal Vallace.

817
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: They don't care about wrestle and that for me is

818
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: really rewarding because it's like me just as a skilled interviewer,

819
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: and that's where I find a lot of pride doing

820
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: that for sure.

821
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: How how did you when you moved to England, right

822
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: and you get that first big gig? Do you have

823
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: like a sizzle reel that you put out there and

824
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: you send out to you do?

825
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 2: I sure do? And you know what, I edit it myself, Okay,

826
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: I pull my own clips, I edit it. I do

827
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: all the transitions. I edit gau TV. By the way,

828
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: I have taught myself over the years. When I was

829
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: even before in wrestling, I would do like pretend movie previews.

830
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: I've really My mom used to sort of get on

831
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: me about like, gosh, you're on the computer all the time,

832
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: you're just tinkering around. I was teaching myself web design

833
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: and video editing skills little antiquated now because things move

834
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: so fast. But honestly, I edit gaul, I edit my

835
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 2: own reel. I still, you know, update my reel all

836
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: the time. And I had those those things ready to go.

837
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: The ws I TV thing again, I TV, I would

838
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: equate to like an NBC in America. It's it's a

839
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: very big network here. It was a huge deal and

840
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 2: I kind of got that. I think, I'm not even

841
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: sure how they even I'm trying to think how they

842
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: even found me. I don't know. I mean, I guess

843
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: just from I don't know. I really don't remember. But

844
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: then comic cons, you know, I was always signing at

845
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: the comic cons by myself, you know, just signing with

846
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 2: well with wrestlers, but on my little table on myself,

847
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: like hey, here's a photo whatever. And I said it

848
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: to people like hey, this is fun, but like, can

849
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: I do more? I'd like to do like social media videos?

850
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: Can I do like a stand up? And sometimes I

851
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 2: would even ask and I would film myself like hey, guys,

852
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 2: it's so Calvell'll welcome to like Comic Con London, we

853
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 2: have this, this and that, wait make sure you see this?

854
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: And I just kept filming myself, doing these things with

855
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: myself and just saying hey, can you use this? And

856
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 2: I just kept you know, giving them footage and stuff

857
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: and saying like, can I do more? And that parlayed

858
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: into now a full time We have fifteen shows a

859
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: year with Monopoly Event, who I'm full time with as

860
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: their exclusive host.

861
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: I love it.

862
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, so, I honestly don't. If there's any

863
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: advice here, don't wait for someone to go hey, can

864
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 2: just do it? Film yourself. There's never too much content.

865
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: You're never being silly by filming yourself. You can never

866
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: be posting too much. Just do it, bro, and someone's

867
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: gonna take your footage and go, wow, we could really

868
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: use this girl and they will.

869
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: Or guy, I see I love oh, I love it.

870
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: I love that about you. Let's let's answer this sable question.

871
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: What do you think?

872
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: Yes, so baby says what your thoughts on Sable? What

873
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 2: do you think the room for turning down Hall of Fame? Okay,

874
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: so I have not I've heard a rumor that she

875
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 2: turned down Hall of Fame. I don't believe. I don't

876
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: know that that's true. I would be very surprised if

877
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: that's true. I would be very disappointed if that's true.

878
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: I have now but in this huge and Franny you

879
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: will back me up this huge rigmarole on Twitter for

880
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: the last two days. First of all, I have Oscars

881
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 2: red carpet comments that people are taking way out of proportion.

882
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 2: I'm like, she was like, I never like make sense.

883
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: I love your when you comment about these outfits.

884
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: I just cannot. But I'm like, I hope people know that.

885
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: Like I mean, it's all in good fun. Like you know,

886
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: if someone comes at me and goes, you hate my dress,

887
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, well I did, but I think you're great,

888
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: but your dress no offense. Uh. And the listen, the

889
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: older I get, the more I'm like, I have to

890
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: stop being so well. Was she offended? Like it's all

891
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,479
Speaker 2: in good fun. I'm always like, she's a beautiful fire

892
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: her stylists right. Anyway, In that same thing, someone I

893
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: was already into the Oscars, you know, hoopla, and then

894
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: someone said Stacy Keebler is going to be inducted in

895
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, and I went They said, what

896
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: do you think valin. I was like, well, that's a

897
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 2: whole other conversation. I was like, that's a bit odd

898
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 2: because there are major more influenced and listen, I am

899
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 2: a state come on girl with the legs, Stacy Torri.

900
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 2: Those are my people. That's who I wanted to be.

901
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: But wrestling overall, someone like Lisa number one, well no,

902
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: there's no Lisa. You know, Mickey, there are girls that

903
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: should I mean, it just kills me. Should be in

904
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame way before Stacey. Oh, it's a

905
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: timeline thing. Stacy like, it's not a timeline thing. It's

906
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: a hierarchy thing, and not because wrestlers are so much

907
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: more important to managers. It's just that I'm I'm sorry,

908
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: a Victoria or a Mickey James, for God's sake, are

909
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 2: not on the same level as a Stacy Keepler. I'm

910
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: not trying to put myself in Stacy Keeler's hierarchy because

911
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: I'm not Stacy Keeler. I'm just saying impact wrestling, for example,

912
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: action figures. When they come over to make Action figures,

913
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: they make action figures of Gail Kim and Awesome Cang,

914
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: and those girls will laying their bodies on the line,

915
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 2: and they are prominent, most featured girls. Right then you

916
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: have the managers and whatever else, and maybe the ring

917
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: girls and the announcers. Hello here, I am. I would

918
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: be horrified if I was in the Hall of Fame

919
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: before a Gail Kim or before a awesome cong Who

920
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: the hell am I? And Stacy did wrestle? And again,

921
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: biggest Stacy fan ever, obsessed used to copy her outfits

922
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 2: for God's sake. But the hierarchy makes no effing sense.

923
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: That is Stacy Keebler as influential as she was to

924
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: a Victoria. Ask any female wrestler in this business if

925
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: they think Stacy should be inducted before Victoria or a

926
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: Mickey James. Sorry, not sorry. It doesn't make fine sense.

927
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: And River's making those decisions. You better check yourself for

928
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: you wreck yourself everybody off and cutting yourself. And that's

929
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: all I'm gonna say.

930
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: And I agree with you one hundred percent on who

931
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: should go in first. But I think they would look

932
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 3: at it from a public relations point of view and

933
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 3: they would probably grab Stacey to throw her on Good

934
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 3: Morning in America because she's been on Dancing with the

935
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: Stars and she's been one, and that exactly easy for them.

936
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: Because it's because she dated George Cloney and she was

937
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: in a few more articles. Sorry not sorry. This is

938
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: a wrestling hall of fame or wrestling should read the

939
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: popularity and the influential people in wrestling should take precedence,

940
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: and for that reason, I think she should be in

941
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. Great, but because they're ignoring so

942
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: many people. By the way, do you want to you

943
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: want to pull the China card that's also messed up.

944
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna touch that with a ten foot poll. Okay down,

945
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: Marie Francy, Mickey, James, Lisa, Marie. These are people that

946
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 2: you go, are you joking? But let's put say keeper

947
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: in If you don't see, if you don't see the

948
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: wrong idea of that, I generally don't want to tell you.

949
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: And again say it one more time for the people

950
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: that are like Goo do like Stacy. Stacy sound rude,

951
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 2: but Stacy meant more to me than the serious wrestlers.

952
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: That was who I was influenced more by. But I'm

953
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: in the minority. I'm not a wrestler in wrestling that

954
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: wanted to be the most popular. You know, the Trish

955
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: the lead is that, and that's fine. We have to

956
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: be able to take a little bit of a back

957
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: seat to the people like Victoria and Mickey and and

958
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: Gail and Awesome Kong and trishaan leda period. And again

959
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: that's a hierarchy thing, and that's okay. We're secondary, that's

960
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 2: all right, that's how it should be. We're supporting actresses.

961
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: And I'm fine with.

962
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 3: That disable thing though has been around for years where

963
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: she's turned it down. This isn't the first time that rumors.

964
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true or not, but I

965
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: wouldn't put Stable again in that supporting actress category. No

966
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: offense that Sable sort of again, no offense more than

967
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: Stacy really spanned the more of the total package thing.

968
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: Sable was a more serious wrestler. Sable was in it

969
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: in a more total package kind of a way, and

970
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: was no offense way more influential and iconic than Stacy Keebler.

971
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 2: So for that reason, Sable, in my eyes, again it's

972
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,479
Speaker 2: my opinion, would be way more here than a Stacy Keeler. Again,

973
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: I want them all to be in the Hall of Fame,

974
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: but it's odd to me that again, maybe Sable is

975
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: turning it down. I don't know. I don't know her.

976
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: It ever better in my life. I would love to,

977
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: but the hierarchy should not be Stacy Keebler, Lisa Marie

978
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: Veren Mickey, like, what are we doing? Whose decisions are these?

979
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 2: And why are you not on the street. I don't understand.

980
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: Well, you're allowed your opinion said, don't let anybody tell

981
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: you you're not.

982
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: And that's the thing, And that's why Twitter is so

983
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: weird because I try to really really be nice about

984
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 2: like I try to reiterate, I'm a Stacy fan. I've

985
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: been a stan if you want to call it that.

986
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: The kids say for Davas more than anybody. But I

987
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: still believe that for her to be inducted before these

988
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 2: women I just mentioned is just preposterous.

989
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: I I just always said that the Hall of Fame,

990
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: they put in who they want, and they just put

991
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 1: in who they want. It's it's just who who will

992
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: draw the most ticket sales, who will make them the

993
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: most money.

994
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: They woke that morning that that's.

995
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: Who is Donald Trump in the Hall of Fame.

996
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 3: Of Fame?

997
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: Somebody no argument and mozel top I have no idea.

998
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: What to say the celebrity it's just like sin like

999
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: they're lobbying, like the fans. They want Cyndi Lauper in

1000
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: there for the celebrity wing. No, there's a celebrity wing.

1001
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: Cindy did a lot. Cindy, Well, she did, she did

1002
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: a lot back in the.

1003
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: I like, I'm talking to celebrity wing. Is weird to me,

1004
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: Cindy Lapper, I believe it's a good addition. Is weird

1005
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: to me?

1006
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: It's the celebrity wing. Yeah, But like when you like,

1007
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: if you talk to a lot of the boys, they

1008
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: make fun of the Hall of Fame, They're like, it

1009
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't really matter. Like a lot of them

1010
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: look at it as a payday, you know what I mean,

1011
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: It's just the payday.

1012
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: It's just because I feel like a lot of people

1013
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: that I've met that are in the Hall of Fame

1014
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 2: really mention it a lot and really show that ring

1015
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 2: off a lot.

1016
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: Well they do, because their price just went up once

1017
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: you put that.

1018
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: And that's another argument I had on Twitter where somebody said, like, oh,

1019
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: somebody said something about how well they gave Victoria enough.

1020
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: They gave her all these championships, And I said, if

1021
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: you think a champion. Championships thrown at Victoria. By the way,

1022
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: that's a whole of the conversation. If you think that

1023
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: equates to the respect and the like you said, let's

1024
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: just be honest, like the bump up and you know,

1025
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 2: status level, the respect from your peers and the respect

1026
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 2: from the fans whatever. If you think championships equal the

1027
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 2: respect that Hall of Fame gets, I don't know what

1028
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 2: to tell you. That's just not a thing.

1029
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's I don't know. Everybody has different opinions

1030
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: on things, and you most certainly are early on your opinion.

1031
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: I've had a week with fighting. I'm not fighting with fans,

1032
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 1: but I've gotten so much hate this week. Out of

1033
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: my thirty years in the business, I have never read

1034
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: comments like.

1035
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: I didn't work right.

1036
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: About it a little later, but I mean this, fans

1037
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: are brutal and they'll let you know they.

1038
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 2: Does it make you want to share your opinion less?

1039
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: Because I think the older I get, I'm like, I

1040
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 2: just listen, I have conviction and everything I say. I

1041
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: went back and I looked at those Stacy Keebler and

1042
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: Lisa tweets and I was like, I if Stacy Keebler

1043
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: was sat with me at a dinner one on one,

1044
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: I would say exactly what I said. And again, I'm

1045
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 2: someone who was the biggest Stacy fan. I mean, I

1046
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 2: could tell you every ALPHI she's ever worn without finding rude.

1047
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: I love Lisa and Mickey. I didn't want to be them.

1048
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 2: I wanted to be Stacy trying to say to people

1049
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm the biggest managerial diva. I love the gravy matches

1050
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: and Lebron panties. I whish they'd come back. I'd be

1051
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: in them. But I've swear to goodness, swear to RuPaul,

1052
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 2: excuse my language. I love those girls, but I still

1053
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: just I have conviction of what I say. And so Franny,

1054
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: when you're tweeting, it's it's hard, right because I have

1055
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: to like carefully curate every tweet. But I look back

1056
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: and I go, am I gonna regret this tweet?

1057
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: No?

1058
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: If I'm not going to regret it, I will then

1059
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: post it and go I'm done happy.

1060
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. I I bite my tongue a lot. I don't

1061
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: share certain things because you lose half your fan base

1062
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: if you do, so I just keep my mouth shut.

1063
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: But you know, sir, I'm having trouble with my because

1064
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: I just trademarked Queen of Extremes. So now I'm getting

1065
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of hate for that.

1066
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 2: I've heard about this. Can you give me a rundown.

1067
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: In a nutshell? Uh? You know they're they're they're using

1068
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: it now. For I believe Lida and I love Amy.

1069
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: I love Amy, I known her forever. She's you know,

1070
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: great talent, beautiful girl. Uh, they're uh, they're calling her that.

1071
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: Corey Graves mentioned it in commentary. So my lawyer a

1072
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 1: while ago put a trademark in for me. Yeah, why

1073
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Speaker 1: because now it's to the point where if they're going

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Speaker 1: to keep using it, I don't want them to tell

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Speaker 1: me I can't.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's fair. That's fair. And again Leada fan as well,

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Speaker 2: you know wh who's on a Leida fan? Come on exactly,

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Speaker 2: that's something that you here's an example too, First Lady

1079
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: of Wrestling. We had Missy Hyatt on gaut TV tonight.

1080
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Speaker 2: People have tried to use that, and it's like something

1081
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: that I've called myself the Princess of pro wrestling. I

1082
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: never really it wasn't the thing. But if somebody else

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00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 2: used it for me, it wasn't used on TV, no

1084
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 2: big deal. But if it was used on TV for

1085
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: years like yours was, I think that's totally fair to be,

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00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,240
Speaker 2: you know, protective of a name that you curated yourself.

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00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: I've only met Amy one time. She seemed lovely, but

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00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 2: and I know that you probably have so much respect

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00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 2: for I think that's fine for you to kind of

1090
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: stake your claim. You were in the business for years.

1091
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: You have proven yourself, my god, put your body, neck, head,

1092
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 2: my god, life on the line for this title. So

1093
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: for me, I I back you, girl, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's not her, no, no, no, more so

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Speaker 1: than I believe. And they've called stuff and McMahon that

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00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: Live Morgan recently is calling herself that and my lawyers like, no,

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00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: you're it's trademarked. You know you can't. And so my

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00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: big thing. So I'm getting a ton of hate right

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Speaker 1: now online.

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Speaker 2: And do you do you get that? Like, for example,

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00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 2: what you just said, it's not about her specifically, But

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00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 2: that's that's what killed me about the Stacy thing. And

1103
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: I was like, I love Stacy. It's like it's like, here,

1104
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: here's a here's a very feminist, patriarchical question in transit right.

1105
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 2: It's pitting women against women. So instead of the actual subject,

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00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: they're trying to make it that you, Francine have an

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00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: issue with Leita slash Amy personally and has nothing to

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00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: do with that. And I think if you were, like

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00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: I said about Stacy, if you sit down with her,

1110
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 2: I bet you could go girl and she would go, oh,

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00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the company, and I you know, I don't

1113
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: want them to one day just you know, I open

1114
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: my mail and there's a cease and desist because I've

1115
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: been using it us three decades now, so you really

1116
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: can't tell me not to, you know what I mean.

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00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: And I said that we trademarked it, and now I'm

1118
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: getting hate and like, you know, like really nasty now

1119
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 1: the younger than the younger generation out there, And I'm

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00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: just like then, you know, oh, you're it's a money grab.

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00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: You think I'm not going to get a dying you know,

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Speaker 1: You're not going to get any money from this. I

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00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: just want to use that name, you know, whether I

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Speaker 1: whether I sign one more day or I do this

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Speaker 1: for ten more years, I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the scary thing about social media. One

1127
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: time I said, I liked or didn't like. I think

1128
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 2: I said I liked some thing about K pop. I

1129
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: don't know anything about K pop. I think I saw

1130
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 2: someone's outfits and was like, oh, they look great, and

1131
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: I had like an I was inundated with all these

1132
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: followers and all these comments, and it was like it

1133
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: was a weird few days because I they it just

1134
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 2: they lashed onto one tweet and the fandom. Another thing

1135
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 2: that I said, which I stand by, that Billie Eili

1136
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: is very talented, but she cannot dress to save her life,

1137
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: God bless. I'm sure she's talented in other ways, and

1138
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 2: she is musically satorially speaking. Girl can't dress. Whether it's

1139
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: your stylist, the girl cannot dress for her shape. It's

1140
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 2: awful there. I said it. And when I said that

1141
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: as kind of a snarky joke, I mean for weeks

1142
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 2: and weeks people were trying to cancel me and you're

1143
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 2: you're mad at her because she's a young girl and

1144
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 2: you're trying to beat up on eight. I was like,

1145
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 2: I just whatever, I said, the girl can't dress, she

1146
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: has no style. Yeah, well everyone has style, and that

1147
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: everyone has manners. That's just you know, the good things.

1148
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 2: God gave us, you.

1149
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: Know, unbelievable. Well, look, I can talk to you all night,

1150
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: but I know you're across the pond, so I don't

1151
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: want to keep you too long. I'm very excited for

1152
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: an upcoming event with you, Squared Circle Expo. Yes, it

1153
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 1: will be myself, so Calval, Shane Douglas, and the Sandman

1154
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: and maybe Scott Steiner. He added his name to one

1155
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: of the tweets. Is he with us too?

1156
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: I think he is. And I'm ready to get extreme.

1157
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what to wear, but I'm thinking pleather

1158
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 2: and chains.

1159
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing. Well, I kind of

1160
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: I should just.

1161
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: Go full pleather chains walk. What for better term? Uh?

1162
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: It doesn't.

1163
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: I love the French fries and when I when I

1164
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 2: ordered my VHS tapes to study you, I fell in

1165
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: love with not only you, but oh my god, the

1166
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: duo of franchise, Shane Douglas and you. I thought. I

1167
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 2: I literally was mad at myself for being born in

1168
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: the wrong era to not be a part of that,

1169
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: because it was. I mean, nothing's better than that. So

1170
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 2: I love I love Shane Douglas. I love you. I'm

1171
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: at a many times. He's very nice Scott Steiner work

1172
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 2: for years. He's lovely to Square Circle Expo. He did

1173
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,240
Speaker 2: Shenanigan's podcast, shout out to them. Yes, it's gonna be amazing.

1174
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 2: Indianapolis is a great time, so we'll have an amazing time.

1175
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: It's a reunion for all of us. And my gosh,

1176
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: look at the poster. So many amazing names there. MJF,

1177
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 2: Kurt Angle, Kevin Nash. Kevin Nash.

1178
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: Right now, will talk to me at this Maybe we'll

1179
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: just do that live.

1180
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 2: But honestly, RBD an amazing lineup and if you're not

1181
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 2: in the area, we do apologize. There might be pre

1182
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 2: sales or virtuals I don't know, but either way, if

1183
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 2: you can join us April seventh to the eighth, my gosh,

1184
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: it'll be I'm so excited.

1185
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: This is her broadcasting skills coming through. I didn't have

1186
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: to say a word. I was just like, go ahead, girl,

1187
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: just get it.

1188
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 3: Confrontation and you have the gaw TV girls with you

1189
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 3: behind you.

1190
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: They're all friends. Everybody's friends. There will be fancy. Here's

1191
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: what we do.

1192
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna be pink satin, pink ladies, jackets. We're gonna

1193
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: just start yes, ye like we got a bone to

1194
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: pick with, you bitch, just kidding out. I'm a huge fan.

1195
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah but yeah, no, in all seriousness, an amazing lineup

1196
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: that would be funny to talk about it.

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00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my god, that was that was the best ever. No,

1198
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm very excited. We need to get a drink that

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00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: evening and just reminisce and hang out if we can.

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00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 2: Girl, I love you aside from me being a crazy

1201
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: wrestling fan, for you and your work, and you're an

1202
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: amazing legacy that will last forever for every girl joining

1203
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 2: wrestling to look back and go, oh my god, I'm

1204
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 2: gonna be a friend scene as I did, and you

1205
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: know what you've done for the business. I'm gonna cry.

1206
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 2: I love you so much and as a personal friend,

1207
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: I'm excited to catch up with you personally and have

1208
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: a drink or five and let's yes or five. I

1209
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: cannot wait to see you.

1210
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: Let the fans know where we can find you and

1211
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: what else you have upcoming?

1212
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: Please, well, I will tell you so. I will be

1213
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: in LA for wrestle Con Friday Saturday Sunday, but the

1214
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 2: main thing is Saturday, April first. Drestlemania is going to

1215
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 2: be our charity event this year benefiting Childhelp dot Org.

1216
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 2: We have Mick Foley hosting it. It's after WrestleMania Day

1217
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: one and anything you need to know is on Dresselmania

1218
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Speaker 2: dot com. You can follow me just anything you want

1219
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Speaker 2: to Google. It's so cal s O c A l

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Speaker 2: v al So cal Valerie on Twitter, Official so calval

1221
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Speaker 2: on Instagram. I have an only fans as well, but

1222
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: specifically we're trying to get people to donate for Dressalmania

1223
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 2: and just be a part of this amazing cause. We

1224
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 2: raised almost ten thousand dollars in the first year, the

1225
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: second year over ten thousand dollars in honor of Daphne

1226
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 2: and mental health awareness, and then this year it's for

1227
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: child Help. We're hoping to raise even more, especially with

1228
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 2: Mick Foley involved. Who's the nicest man in wrestling ever.

1229
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: So please look us up. Go tvgawtv dot com, Grown

1230
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: ASSHM and TV. Every Wednesday at five pm on YouTube.

1231
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 2: You guys have to tune in. We've had a Francine episode.

1232
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 2: If you haven't caught it, please catch the replay. Say

1233
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: this amazing and Franci We'll have you on again.

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00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: Please, I would love to come on again. We need

1235
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: a round two because there are so many more topics

1236
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: we can discuss. Right, it's my crazy self.

1237
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 2: We barely scratched the surface on the first episode. It

1238
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: was like we wanted to keep going.

1239
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: I know we did. Listen, don't forget to send me

1240
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: the address because I have stuff to mail. We talked,

1241
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: thank you, Oh my god, thank you so much. We'll

1242
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: do for sure, absolutely, I will talk to you before then,

1243
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: but thank you so much for coming on. I do

1244
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: love you, and I am so proud of the woman

1245
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: that you've become. Oh honestly, you are doing stop. You're

1246
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: doing wonderful things. And and like I said, you're so

1247
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm gushing. You're so fluent in what you're doing, like

1248
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: you're You're just top notch, baby, And I'm so happy

1249
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: for you with with everything that you have going on.

1250
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 2: For for for someone as that, I'm gonna cry, for

1251
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 2: someone that I love and respect so much and look

1252
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: out to that means a lot.

1253
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: So I think you're so cute. I love you so much.

1254
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: I love you.

1255
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I will talk to you.

1256
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 3: I feel the same way. But you know you don't

1257
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 3: have to cry.

1258
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: Kiss to YouTube.

1259
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Speaker 1: I'll talk to you, baby. I love you guys, I

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Speaker 1: Love you by.

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