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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Bie Sports Radio. I hope you are

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Speaker 1: having a spectacular day. It is July the second. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's July already. July already. That was for you there,

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Speaker 1: Jays too, Is it July already? I think you tweeted

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Speaker 1: at yesterday or the day before. Not really sure. So

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Speaker 1: let's get after with the topic of the day. The

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Speaker 1: long search is over. Two time NBA Coach of the

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Speaker 1: Year Mike Brown is the new head coach of the

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Speaker 1: New York Knicks, and he does, in fact fit the bill.

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Speaker 1: And you're like, what do you mean fit the bill?

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Speaker 1: There's a couple of things. First, like I said, here's

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Speaker 1: the amazing part about being a two time NBA Head

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Speaker 1: Coach of the Year. There's actually a trend with that

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Speaker 1: that he was fired a year after both times he

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Speaker 1: was NBA Coach of the Year. But I said previously

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Speaker 1: and I meant it that if you're going to replace

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Speaker 1: Tom Thibodeau with another head coach, when Tibbs takes the

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Speaker 1: Knicks to the conference finals for the first time in

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Speaker 1: twenty five years, you have to replace with somebody who

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Speaker 1: has been to that level and beyond. The NBA on

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Speaker 1: some many levels is about respect. And you know there's

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Speaker 1: the catch twenty two of in order to have the

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Speaker 1: respect to the locker room, you have to win in

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Speaker 1: the NBA. In order to win in the NBA, you

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Speaker 1: have to have the respect of the locker room. Well,

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Speaker 1: Mike Brown, if you remember, was the head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Cavaliers. Remember when Lebron James and Booby Gibson

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Speaker 1: and others went to the NBA Finals early in Lebron's

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Speaker 1: career and got swept. Who was the head coach? Then?

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Speaker 1: Mike Brown's the answer. So the problem is not in

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Speaker 1: selecting Mike Brown. The problem is very likely in the

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Speaker 1: execution or lack there of a plan. Now, can Brown

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Speaker 1: deal with James Dolan as a crazy owner per se? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had Vivid Reneddive as his owner. How crazy is

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Speaker 1: Vivic grena dive the Veck g Renda DV owner of

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Speaker 1: the Kings, once upon a time coached his daughter's AAU team,

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Speaker 1: and they had a unique style where they pressed and

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Speaker 1: they left one young woman underneath their own basket so

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Speaker 1: So they'd sacrificed that so they could get wide open

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Speaker 1: they could try it in the NBA. These words were

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Speaker 1: set out loud in professional basketball offices and thought about,

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Speaker 1: and one coach was actually, I believe was fired because

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Speaker 1: of it because he didn't want to do it. He

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Speaker 1: wouldn't have anything of it. So if you could survive that,

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Speaker 1: you could survive Sacramento. And oh yeah, by the way,

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Speaker 1: he turned Sacramento from you know, from a desolate kind

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Speaker 1: to playing a fun up and down style. My guess

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Speaker 1: He's seen as a great dude, somebody who can work

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Speaker 1: My guess is he's the opposite of Tibbs, and Tibbs

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Speaker 1: but he passes that bar of you can't fire a

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Speaker 1: think because of where we started, where we get to

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Speaker 1: Mike Brown had played you know, turned his style into

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Speaker 1: And this is it's no different than when you're in

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Speaker 1: know from from polar opposes, just like with just like

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Speaker 1: but persona wise, style wise seen as defensive first gritty mentality,

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Speaker 1: He happens to be black as well, and I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: And I think that'll be a challenge to Mike Brown

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Speaker 1: in the year two, but right now you're one. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't hate it. I think the part

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Speaker 1: He's very familiar with the East. It actually makes sense

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Speaker 1: does it make sense to you, Dan Byer?

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Speaker 2: I mean you've this search didn't make sense. But the hiring, ultimately,

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Speaker 2: you can you can blame it on ownership, or you

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was it was fine.

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Speaker 2: I just the search process of them going to all

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Speaker 2: when you had a Taylor Jenkins who you also spoke with.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they even talked with Michael Malone. But

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Speaker 2: so that that whole deal was the search was crazy.

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Speaker 2: But ultimately you get Mike Brown.

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Speaker 3: Fine. Higher. I don't know if it's a loteral move,

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Speaker 3: but it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I that's it. It's this is the airs

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Speaker 1: that's what the Knicks did, right. The Knicks passed the

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Speaker 1: I'm probably too close to it because I know Mike

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Speaker 1: really well. I think he's a fantastic guy. I think

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Speaker 1: he you know, the the Laker stint was he probably

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Speaker 1: butchered trying to bring in Eddie Jordan to run Princeton

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Speaker 1: But again, Mike's been around it long enough, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: And look, maybe it's what got him fired in Sacramento.

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Speaker 1: Remember the waning days of his time in Sacramento. He

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Speaker 1: was He pointed out that Daron Fox kind of butchered

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Speaker 1: and then Darren Fox like, why'd Darren Fox? Like, why'd

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Speaker 1: you fire him? I liked him? Why'd you fire him?

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Speaker 1: And then Darreon Fox gets traded.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like I almost give him a pass, honestly,

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Speaker 2: And I know that. Like his Coach of the Year

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Speaker 2: well it wasn't one with the Lakers, but said him. Think,

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Speaker 2: but the point is it's tough to coach superstars as well.

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Speaker 2: So like, if you're gonna look at him and say

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Speaker 1: Or you could say, remember he got fired after a

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Speaker 1: then when they fired him, they again, the Calves thought

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Speaker 1: they were firing him because Lebron didn't like him, And

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Speaker 1: Lebron may not have liked him, but it didn't stop

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Speaker 1: Lebron from leaving and going to Miami. Those two things

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Speaker 1: go inside with each other. Yeah, Jase do so?

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Speaker 4: Can we drove down on something that Buyer brought up?

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Speaker 4: And you brought it up a couple of weeks ago too,

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Speaker 4: and I agree. You know, the Knicks took this kind

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Speaker 4: of like you can't make an omelet without breaking eggs

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Speaker 4: kind of thing to the offseason, and I'm guessing they

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Speaker 4: pissed off a bunch of teams, like trade partners, Like

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Speaker 4: how if they ultimately landed on a guy who was

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Speaker 4: a free agent to begin with, didn't they piss off

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Speaker 4: trade partners along the way? Aren't they aren't teams less?

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Speaker 4: Likely to deal with the Knicks now because they caused

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Speaker 4: them to have this these public acknowledgements. Isn't there a

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Speaker 4: a net negative here?

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Speaker 1: Maybe? Maybe, but one it's not show friends as show business. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: I think the easy landing place if you did feel

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Speaker 7: He's not getting the middle It's time.

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Speaker 1: For So what's the midway? You ask yourself? Thanks so

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Speaker 2: And I am curious to see on if that Super

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Speaker 8: This fall, Chase do, I'm gonna keep it local.

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Speaker 4: I think the Dodgers baseball story this coming October is

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Speaker 4: How many different World Series champions have there been in

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Speaker 4: the past eight years? I want to say eight eight

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Speaker 4: because I'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's eight.

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Speaker 4: And coming off an off season where you're like, are

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Speaker 4: the Dodgers bad for baseball? And how stupid a notion

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Speaker 4: that is being a team or the first team to

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Speaker 4: repeat in quite some time, I think is a is

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Speaker 4: just like a Dan just pointed out, it's kind of

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Speaker 4: like the chief story like this is this is an

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Speaker 4: intriguing thing to follow if you like the Dodgers or not.

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Speaker 4: In fact, if you hate the Dodgers, it's even more interesting.

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Speaker 4: Can they repeat? They have the most talented team, they

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Speaker 4: have the biggest payroll, And I'm gonna be following closely

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Speaker 4: as a Dodger fan and a strong critic of Andrew Friedman.

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Speaker 4: So the storyline I'm looking forward to most the second

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Speaker 4: half of twenty twenty five the Los Angeles Dodgers in October.

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Speaker 5: Sam just briefly going back to that Aaron Rodgers topic.

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Speaker 5: I am curious if midway through the season, Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 5: will ask Mike Tomlin if he could bring in Alan

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Speaker 5: Lizard and Randall Cobb for help, just gonna dust them off.

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Speaker 5: Let's throw out Randall Cobblizard out there.

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Speaker 8: Let's get it.

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Speaker 5: Get those guys catching balls. No, actually had a couple

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Speaker 5: in mind, but I am curious if this is going

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Speaker 5: to be a by the end of the year, a

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Speaker 5: sophomore slump for Caitlin Clark. You can define a slump

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Speaker 5: a sophomore slump in a lot of ways. Sometimes it's

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Speaker 5: just pet poor shootings. Sometimes it's injury. Sometimes it's both.

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Speaker 5: And right now she has the growing issue and her

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Speaker 5: shooting has been an issue. But this Fever team has

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Speaker 5: actually had some really, really impressive wins. They obviously beat

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Speaker 5: the Links last night in Minneapolis to win the Commissioner's Cup.

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Speaker 5: They had the best record in the w NBA coming

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Speaker 5: into that game. They took the bloom off the Rows

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Speaker 5: at the New York Liberty and beat them for the

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Speaker 5: first time. They won at Seattle, so the team is

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Speaker 5: able to win without her. I think clearly we need

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Speaker 5: to have KAITLYNK Clark playing again.

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Speaker 4: Uh just hold on a second, put a pause on

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Speaker 4: your uh your script.

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Speaker 8: Did you just refer to the Fever as we you

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Speaker 8: just said we?

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Speaker 5: I don't think I did it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a week.

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Speaker 8: Well, we'll replay that, we'll your script, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Do we care? I'm just I don't. Who cares?

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Speaker 8: Oh, Doug has a problem with people saying, right, but.

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Speaker 1: I don't like hardcore fantasy. We but like the n

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Speaker 1: w NBA Fever team. You're from Iowa, you just started fall.

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Speaker 1: You're clearly a Caitlyn Clark putting at it.

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Speaker 5: I don't remember saying go to be here.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Not usually one guy. I'm a me guy.

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Speaker 1: But all right, yeah, okay, I gotta I got a

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Speaker 1: couple of here, a couple here. First of all, I

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Speaker 1: do have we talked about this in the pod, and

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Speaker 1: I have received work. Okay, this is not breaking news.

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Speaker 1: But I've been led to believe that Caitlin Clark will

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Speaker 1: not take a penny of the money from the Commissioner's

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Speaker 1: Cup that the team received and will break up. I

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Speaker 1: think she's like, hey, I didn't play. Let team personnel

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Speaker 1: get it. The people who make the least get it.

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Speaker 1: That's what I've been told.

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Speaker 3: That's nice.

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Speaker 5: Wait where are you getting that?

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Speaker 1: I just sources, layers close to the situation have led

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Speaker 1: me to believe that is not a confirmed report.

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Speaker 3: That's just looking out. Yeah, that's great, that's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and probably, honestly, she probably would have done it

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Speaker 2: if she would have played as well.

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Speaker 1: I honestly, it's it's a drop in the bucket to

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Speaker 1: what she makes. Yeah, Mamba shoes sold out like that.

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Speaker 1: She's really, really bright woman.

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Speaker 5: She played, She played in certain games that helped them

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Speaker 5: get to the Commissioner's Cup Championship. I opined earlier that

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Speaker 5: maybe she could give her money away to her teammates,

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Speaker 5: because they did go out there, her teammates.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if she gave her teammates. I think

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Speaker 1: it's the team personnel.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't I've not heard that from anybody, but just

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Speaker 5: myself thinking that maybe she could do people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can we.

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Speaker 1: Get to the here's the things we're looking forward to.

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Speaker 3: We have I.

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Speaker 4: Mentioned before we get there. Before we get there, I

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Speaker 4: did want to I have evidentiary. Evidentiary what's the word proof?

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Speaker 4: Iowa say, I'm just three minutes ago talking about his fever.

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Speaker 4: You have me up on the computer?

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Speaker 5: Sound, oh, go ahead, Yeah, So the team is able

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Speaker 5: to win without her? I think clearly we need to

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Speaker 5: have Kaitlyn Clark playing. I'm talking about his sports dude.

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Speaker 5: Come on, I'm talking about sports fans. You need to

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Speaker 5: have Clark pack. You know what, we fever fans.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna go to Sam on this, Sam, Sam,

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Speaker 1: I got your back here. I'll catch you in this

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Speaker 1: tress fall.

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Speaker 5: Okay, thank you, guys, thank you.

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Speaker 1: No listen, because he meant we as sports fans, we

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Speaker 1: need to have Kayla Clark because otherwise we don't care.

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Speaker 1: Starting to about Sophie Cunningham, but.

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Speaker 5: We Sophie Stunningham, Sophie stunning Okay, I've been vindicated. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I know you're gonna say Ohio State, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: say arch.

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Speaker 3: Manning, right, Yeah, I'm glad you weren't there. Yeah arch Manning.

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Speaker 1: Like again, part of me feels bad for the kid,

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Speaker 1: all right, but part of me is like, hey, dude,

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Speaker 1: you're the dude. You're gonna put yourself man in the arena. Now,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback of Texas Texas, right they spent didn't They

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Speaker 1: spend three million dollars on his visit supposedly, right, Like

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Speaker 1: this is that's like all time, Johnny be good levels

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Speaker 1: our archbanding quarterback of.

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Speaker 5: Texas there there.

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Speaker 2: I think, I'm so glad you brought that up because

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Speaker 2: I think that he is far and away the biggest

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Speaker 2: story in college football. And it's also because I think

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Speaker 2: there are stories that are lacking in college football. And

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Speaker 2: I'm going to bring up a topic that we kind

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Speaker 2: of talked about last year. Do you remember I was

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Speaker 2: not high in Alabama? Remember, like they you know, they

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Speaker 2: went to Madison, they took care of what Wisconsin and

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Speaker 2: you're like, oh, it's Alabama's Alabama. Alabama's not Alabama when

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Speaker 2: Nick Saban isn't there, And there was intrigue because you

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Speaker 2: think that maybe that team's going to keep rolling with

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Speaker 2: Caitlin de Boorr.

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Speaker 3: But it ended up not being the case.

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Speaker 2: They don't even make they don't even make the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: So now Alabama isn't Alabama anymore. Ohio State's got a

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Speaker 2: you know, a bunch of new faces on offense outside

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Speaker 2: of Jeremiah Smith that you have to replace.

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma stinks spinks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Penn State is maybe the second biggest story I

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Speaker 2: think because if not now, when for them, like finally,

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Speaker 2: even though they made it to the semi final last year,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of a all right, let's see it, James Franklin,

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Speaker 2: Let's win that big game. And but other than that,

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Speaker 2: you know, I have a tough time in getting a

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Speaker 2: lot of buzz about the college football season. I think

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Speaker 2: arch Manning is the story far and away in college football.

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Speaker 2: And they open up at Ohio State just to start

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Speaker 2: the season. So that's the game that everybody's gonna be

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Speaker 2: looking at.

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Speaker 5: How do we feel in what late December? I guess

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Speaker 5: about because we had a lot of problems with how

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Speaker 5: teams were seeded in the first twelve team playoff, and

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Speaker 5: now we're going to try to correct those errors and

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Speaker 5: not have it like a Boise State be like have

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Speaker 5: a buye. You know, we need to correct those things.

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Speaker 5: So I think that the makeup of the playoff will

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Speaker 5: be interesting. See how we do it this time around,

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Speaker 5: maybe trying to correct some of those mistakes from last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a great There's not tons of momentum

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Speaker 2: for college football right now.

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Speaker 5: Do you see the big twelves getting rid of pre

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Speaker 5: season polls because like Arizona State was picked to finish

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Speaker 5: whatever way deep into the conference in the end of winning.

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Speaker 2: It, camstat I'll tell you what though, that's what makes

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Speaker 2: the story great.

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Speaker 1: Agreed.

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Speaker 5: I love preseason polls. It's just talking fodder though you know,

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Speaker 5: it's just yeah, yeah, but to talk about it at least, but.

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Speaker 1: It gets us talking about it. Yes, yeah, I'm with Dan.

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Speaker 5: So what you think that it's good it went away

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Speaker 5: or you should keep it?

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Speaker 1: No, they're dumb because nobody knows, Like most teams have

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Speaker 1: entirely new teams, so it's really hard. Like people ask

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Speaker 1: them all the time, like what's your league gonna look like?

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know of in my league in the

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Speaker 1: Horizon League in basketball, the top twenty five scores too

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Speaker 1: are back. I have one of them, and we're the

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Speaker 1: worst team. So, I mean, you know, it's crazy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So we got college football, we got NFL.

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Speaker 2: There's also gonna be a good Rider Cup at H

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Speaker 2: so that'll be a good weekend in late September. H.

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Speaker 1: I mean, anybody, anybody else wonder like I don't think

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Speaker 1: they'll trade him, but what if Lebron gets traded? Thunder

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Speaker 1: at least interesting? Uh, But I thought that was a

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Speaker 1: pretty good midway chase. Do anything else?

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Speaker 8: Nope, we got Daniel Jeremiah here.

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Speaker 1: Great, we'll ask him what he's most looking forward to

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Speaker 1: that is The Midway.

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Speaker 7: The Midway. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk

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Speaker 7: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at

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Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show. Fox Sports Radio. I mean this.

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Speaker 1: According to the Athletic stand Waiki, Lakers are already targeting

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Speaker 1: Al Horford. His call is A colleague Sam Ameck, who's

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Speaker 1: also from the Athletic said that the Warriors are too

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Speaker 1: Warriors could end up they could end up a key

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Speaker 1: piece in the battle for a thirty nine year old center. Again,

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Speaker 1: my my thing is this, Like DeAndre Ayton is DeAndre

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Speaker 1: at officially a Laker? Dan Bayer did he Did he

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Speaker 1: sign with the Lakers?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: No. No, again, that was supposedly he was. They were

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Speaker 1: one of the final teams. It's like DeAndre Ayton, I

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Speaker 1: I look, I understand what Lebron's people are kind of saying, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: they're kind of threwed here, right not gonna probably not

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Speaker 1: gonna win a title this year. And I don't understand Ayton.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand Horford. Like, the best thing Luca does

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Speaker 1: is come off of pick and roll and either score it,

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Speaker 1: pass it, or throw a lob. And you have to

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Speaker 1: have a lob threat. And they don't seem to like Jack,

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Speaker 1: say so, why aren't they going after that type of center?

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Speaker 1: You know who might know? Frank Iola, He joins us

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Speaker 1: down in the Doug Gottlib Show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Of course, longtime NBA writer. You see him on ESPN,

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Speaker 1: Herb of the Yes Network, on Serious XM as well.

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Speaker 1: He joins us now on Fox Sports Radio. What was

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Speaker 1: your opinion this would have been like a backward around

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Speaker 1: the horn existed great around the horn topic. Lebron James's

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Speaker 1: agent comes out and is like, hey, Lebron wants to

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Speaker 1: win a championship, so we're going to explore our options

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Speaker 1: after he just re ups with the Lakers with the

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Speaker 1: player option. Was what was your read on that?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, first of all, don't be hating DeAndre, all right,

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Speaker 9: we'll start there. I do think it's funny. I always

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Speaker 9: love that he's monitoring the situation. Well, guess what, somebody

651
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Speaker 9: break the news to him that the Lakers just signed

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Speaker 9: the guy that's gonna be forty one on December thirtieth

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Speaker 9: to a fifty three dour contract, which which kind of

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Speaker 9: hurts him a little bit. I'm not telling him to

655
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Speaker 9: take less he could. Obviously he's earned the right to

656
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Speaker 9: do that. That's in his contract. But you mentioned it.

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Speaker 9: The biggest issue that the Lakers have is that they're

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Speaker 9: in the Western Conference and you were talking about centers

659
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Speaker 9: that they can get. You know, Nick Claxton would certainly

660
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Speaker 9: fill the bill. I don't think he's been traded yet,

661
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Speaker 9: like he would be available from the Nets. But you know,

662
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Speaker 9: the Lakers are going to have to give up a

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Speaker 9: first round pick if they if they want to acquire

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Speaker 9: Nick Claxon. But Lebron's in a tough situation. You know,

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Speaker 9: it's amazing that we're still talking about the guy after

666
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Speaker 9: after all these years. The best thing for him would

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Speaker 9: be to figure out a way to come to the

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Speaker 9: Eastern Conference, Like I don't know why Kevin Durant didn't

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Speaker 9: try to do that. All the teams are in the

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Speaker 9: West while the East is wide open right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so the East is wide open. The New

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Speaker 1: York knicks Hire Mike Brown, what do you think of

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Speaker 1: the higher Well?

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Speaker 9: I like Mike Brown a lot and obviously as a good,

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Speaker 9: you know, record you know, he got to coach Lebron

676
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Speaker 9: a lot in Cleveland, which which certainly helps. It's it's

677
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Speaker 9: strange because you know, you go out and you made

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Speaker 9: it to the conference finals first time in twenty five years,

679
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Speaker 9: and then they decide to get rid of their coach.

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Speaker 9: And I think they're targeted for a long time was

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Speaker 9: Jason Kidd, And you know, I think that's why it's

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Speaker 9: probably dragged on as long as they did. They tried

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Speaker 9: to get Jason Kidd. You know, they couldn't eve get

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Speaker 9: permission to speak to him, and then you know they

685
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Speaker 9: did talk to the Rockets. They tried. So they went

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Speaker 9: after four four coaches that we know of that are

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Speaker 9: under contract. So if you're doing that, come on, Doug,

688
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Speaker 9: if you're getting if you're trying to talk together a

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Speaker 9: turty in the contract, that's the guys that are hiring.

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Speaker 9: So it sounds like that Mike Brown at best would

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Speaker 9: have been their fifth choice. But you know that doesn't

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Speaker 9: make them the wrong choice. And you know, many years ago,

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Speaker 9: I think it was you know, all the way back

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Speaker 9: in ninety six. I know it's ancient history, but you know,

695
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Speaker 9: when Joe Torrey got hired by the Yankees, nobody thought

696
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Speaker 9: it was a good hire than the next thing. You know,

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Speaker 9: he's part of a dynasty there. Mike Brown's walking into

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Speaker 9: a good situation. Like he just said, wide open the East.

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Speaker 9: The Knicks do have a talented roster, but there's gonna

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Speaker 9: be a lot of pressure on them. The nixt won

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Speaker 9: ten playoff games last year. I mean this past season

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Speaker 9: the most since ninety nine. They made the conference finals

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Speaker 9: first time since two thousands. Of the expectations like the

704
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Speaker 9: pressure are going to be through the roof.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I tend to agree there. Kevin Durant to Houston,

706
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Speaker 1: Houston's made a lot of moves. Several people like it.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about Houston and their evolution?

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Speaker 9: I like it a lot. I kind of I always

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Speaker 9: thought would they try to make a run at Devin Booker,

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Speaker 9: you know, for Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant still has in

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Speaker 9: my opinion, a lot left. The problem is can he

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Speaker 9: stay healthy? And we did have a really I thought

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Speaker 9: the season overall was disappointing because they didn't get at

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Speaker 9: the take place in the Western Conference. But you know,

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Speaker 9: Imodoko was an assistant coach in Brooklyn when Kevin Durant

716
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Speaker 9: was there, so they have a relationship. I think they

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Speaker 9: have a really good young nucleus around them, especially the

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Speaker 9: kid Thompson, who's terrific. They got some toughness with guys

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Speaker 9: like Fred van Fleet and what you like about the Rockets.

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Speaker 9: Now they still have the assets to make a run

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Speaker 9: at Giannis if and when, you know, Jannis does become

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Speaker 9: available and wants out of Milwaukee. So I think it

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Speaker 9: works out well for Kevin Durant. The one thing about

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Speaker 9: Kevin Durant which I don't understand, I still tie it

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Speaker 9: to like not being married, not having kids. If he

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Speaker 9: had that, he'd be like the rest of us. He'd

727
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Speaker 9: be kind of miserable. So he spends most of his

728
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Speaker 9: time being miserable about silly things like fighting people on

729
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Speaker 9: social media and things like that. Like Kevin Durant never

730
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Speaker 9: seems to be happy. I don't get it. I mean,

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Speaker 9: even just recently you look at some of his social

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Speaker 9: media activity, just like go going after people. I don't

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Speaker 9: understand it for like a guy that I mean, I

734
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Speaker 9: don't know. You look across sports, like the all time

735
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Speaker 9: grades in any sport, whether it's tennis, football, basketball, soccer,

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Speaker 9: Like an all time grader they really just randomly calling

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Speaker 9: after people on social media. I don't understand that part

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Speaker 9: about Kevin Durant. But when it as it relates to

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Speaker 9: how good Houston could be, I mean, come on, Doug.

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Speaker 9: They were the second seed last year, they won fifty

741
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Speaker 9: two games. There were a young team. I get it.

742
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Speaker 9: They got knocked out in the Game seven by Golden State.

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Speaker 9: But they're going to be a legit contender in the

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Speaker 9: Western Conference.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I actually think the NBA. I think the

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Speaker 1: Texas teams are loaded for battle. I mean, I don't

747
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Speaker 1: know what Kyrie's looks like when he comes off the

748
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Speaker 1: knee injury, but the rest of that roster looks really,

749
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Speaker 1: really athletic and can really defend. The Spurs. They still

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Speaker 1: may be a year or two away, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: not that far away. You got obviously Oklahoma City. I

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Speaker 1: know that's a different state, but it's right there in

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Speaker 1: that same corridor, and then the Houston Rockets. It's those

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Speaker 1: four are where the players and the draft picks and

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Speaker 1: the future seems to seems to live in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: What about Giannis, Is this the offseason that he gets moved?

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Speaker 9: I don't think so, because I don't think they make

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Speaker 9: a move like that. I'm not buying this idea that

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Speaker 9: he was unhappy, that the Milwaukee Bucks are really making

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Speaker 9: a seismic move like that without Giannis knowing about it.

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Speaker 9: To me, that that move from Miles Turner and releasing

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Speaker 9: Damian Lillard, that's Milwaukee saying we're really going to roll

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Speaker 9: the dice here. We have the best player in the

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Speaker 9: Eastern Conference, the Eastern Conference about Jason Tatum, and without

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Speaker 9: Tyres Haliburt for the time being, looks like, you know,

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Speaker 9: we have you know, we could make a run here.

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Speaker 9: So I don't think it'll be this season, you know,

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Speaker 9: trades like that. I mean, I know Luca got traded

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Speaker 9: before the deadline this year, but any trade like that

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Speaker 9: with the honest would usually would probably take place before

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Speaker 9: the draft. So I think I think Milwaukee and Giannis

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Speaker 9: are going to be together for at least a year.

773
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Speaker 9: Know that that could all change by you know, right

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Speaker 9: around the draft next June. But I think now he's

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Speaker 9: going to be in and to his credit, you know,

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Speaker 9: he he is loyal to the city and the franchise.

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Speaker 9: You know they drafted I mean, it was a skinny

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Speaker 9: guy out of Greece, nobody knew about. He turned into

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Speaker 9: a man there, had incredible success. I mean, you know this,

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Speaker 9: the arena, the you know the arena there, you know

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Speaker 9: a lot of the downtown area, that Deer District. A

782
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Speaker 9: lot of that has to do with the honest he

783
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Speaker 9: really changed the brand of the Milwaukee Bucks, and it

784
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Speaker 9: would be a big deal for them to trade them.

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Speaker 9: I think it would be a big deal for him

786
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Speaker 9: to get traded. But I think I think Milwaukee realizes.

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Speaker 9: You look at San Antonio, you look at Houston, they

788
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Speaker 9: have assets. Look at what the Brooklyn Mets have done

789
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Speaker 9: with all the assets they have there. The Golden State

790
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Speaker 9: Wars could potentially be in play. The Miami Heat would,

791
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Speaker 9: you know, be a lot of the usual suspect. But

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Speaker 9: I think I think the Bucks, if and when that

793
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Speaker 9: more to come, I think they would do right by Yannis.

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Speaker 9: I think he would do right by them and not

795
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Speaker 9: make it. I'm sure he'd probably identify a few teams

796
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Speaker 9: and they would just try to get the best assets

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Speaker 9: that they could.

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Speaker 1: Stutg Gottlieb show here on Fox Sports Trader, that's the

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Speaker 1: voice of Frank Isola. Frank, Look, obviously we want to

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Speaker 1: talk NBA's big NBA free agency time. But what are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on where the w NBA is now with

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Speaker 1: their handling. I mean, you just had the women's the

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Speaker 1: player's poll for the All Star Game had Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 1: as the ninth best guard in the league. Now again,

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Speaker 1: I'm I don't watch enough w NBA to tell you

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Speaker 1: if she's first or second or maybe ninth, but ninth

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Speaker 1: does seem a little low. And it's the narrative of

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Speaker 1: they just don't like her. They don't like her even

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Speaker 1: though she's helping them all get rich. What's your read

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Speaker 1: on what's going on in the w.

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Speaker 9: Well, the only thing that said about the players in

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Speaker 9: the WNBA in this case, I think, you know, every

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Speaker 9: year the NBA does the same thing where the fan

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Speaker 9: vote means the most, which they should just let the

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Speaker 9: fans this fans game, whoever they voted into the game, whatever,

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Speaker 9: Let the fans have it. It's there, it's their game.

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Speaker 9: But the you know, the fans, I think would have half,

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Speaker 9: you know, half of the vote would be for the

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Speaker 9: fans in the media, and the players would have the

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Speaker 9: you know, would make up the other twenty five percent.

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Speaker 9: He's gonna get twenty five and the NBA players a

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Speaker 9: lot of times. Would you know, there were times when

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Speaker 9: the media voted Lebron and Kevin Durant unanimously as All

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Speaker 9: Star starters and the players didn't. They had guys from

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Speaker 9: like all over the place. So some of that I

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Speaker 9: have to take with a grain of salt. I still

827
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Speaker 9: think a lot of it goes back to last season.

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Speaker 9: I think the league set a bad tone by not

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Speaker 9: putting on the Olympic team Cheryl Reeves. But you know,

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Speaker 9: the national team coach, who's the Minnesota coach, came out

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Speaker 9: with a tweet before the first preseason game and she

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Speaker 9: took a little dig at caately Leclark. I do think

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Speaker 9: if David Stern were around, he would have called up

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Speaker 9: Cheryl Reeves and basically told her stop tweeting about Caitlin Clark.

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Speaker 9: And it would have called the USA Basketball and said,

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Speaker 9: we know that Caitlin Clark is going to be on

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Speaker 9: this team, right and they would have put her on

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Speaker 9: the team. So I think the way that she came

839
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Speaker 9: into the league, I mean, look at Page Beckers her

840
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Speaker 9: you know, entrance into the league wasn't nearly I think,

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Speaker 9: you know, it wasn't nearly as many minefields as Caitlin

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Speaker 9: Clark had. But come on, Doug, you know this. If

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Speaker 9: Duke runs men's basketball, they're you know, they're everywhere in

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Speaker 9: the NBA, and Yukon runs women's basketball. It's just the

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Speaker 9: way it is, and it just so happens. You know,

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Speaker 9: Grant Hill is the executive director of the men's national team,

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Speaker 9: and it's Sue I think believe now it's Sue Verd

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Speaker 9: is the executive director of the women's national team. So

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Speaker 9: that's pretty powerful. My thing is, if Kaitlin Clark went

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Speaker 9: to Yukon, none of this stuff would be going on.

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Speaker 9: She would have been on the national team and she

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Speaker 9: wouldn't be catching as much grief as she catches. I

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Speaker 9: think it's unfortunately. I think the problem that the w

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Speaker 9: NBA players have that NBA players don't have. NBA players

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Speaker 9: understand marketing, and they understand economics and they have common sense.

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Speaker 9: I think a lot of the players in the NBA

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Speaker 9: need to take an economics one on one course, a

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Speaker 9: common sense one on one course, and a marketing one

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Speaker 9: on one course to really understand that. I think they're

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Speaker 9: fighting something which they don't. It's not in their best interest,

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Speaker 9: but for some reason they keep fighting.

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Speaker 1: That's Frank I Sola. You hear him on Serius XM,

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Speaker 1: NBA Radio, you see him on ESPN, you see him

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Speaker 1: on s n Y, you see him all over. He

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Speaker 1: does a great job. Frank, you're the best man. Have

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Speaker 1: an absolutely great fourth July, and thank you for being

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Speaker 1: our guest.

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Speaker 9: You too, Doug, take care of you.

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Speaker 1: Ah, it's Dog Gottlieb Show. It's Fox Sports Radio. That's

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Speaker 1: my guy, Dan Bayer. Oh so I'm doing I'm what

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Speaker 1: we're doing? Cow hurt on the fourth? Is that right?

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Speaker 1: Jay stew Are you doing that with me? Or are

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Speaker 1: you off? So I think I asked if you're doing it?

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Speaker 8: Uh, hurt on the fourth and I'll be working, you know.

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Speaker 1: And then Dan, are you doing my show or are

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Speaker 1: you off? Or are we doing the herd with me?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: I'm not doing the hard I'm doing your show.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you'll hear Dan next couple of days. This

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Speaker 1: is just an interesting one to me. Are you guys? Fireworks?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 1: Now, I know you live in southern California, so you

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Speaker 1: can't really buy I mean legally the same fireworks you

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Speaker 1: can buy. But do you still enjoy a good you know,

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Speaker 1: semi street legal explosion.

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Speaker 2: I've become more and more. I loved it when I

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Speaker 2: was a kid. Then I don't know if I just

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Speaker 2: became too cool for school, like in my teens and twenties,

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Speaker 2: but I do appreciate them. Obviously there's dangers with fires

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Speaker 2: and possible injuries, but I have enjoyed them more, I

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Speaker 2: could say, probably for the last decade or so.

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Speaker 4: Jase, do I think fireworks are first simpletons unless you're

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Speaker 4: a child. I think that people are who are motivated

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Speaker 4: to do fireworks or watch fireworks are just simple in nature.

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Speaker 1: I love fireworks.

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Speaker 3: Simple. Dan's what they call me?

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Speaker 1: Simple, simple dog. I'm just simple, all right, Sammy. What

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Speaker 1: about you?

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Speaker 5: I'm with Dan? I simple?

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Speaker 3: Sam?

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Speaker 5: Well, sweet Dan?

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Speaker 6: Was your.

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Speaker 5: Was your takeaway that you actually like it more now

904
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Speaker 5: in the last ten years, like you went through that hole?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I just yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think when I was a teenager and and you know,

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Speaker 2: my twenties is just like you know, like, what's that

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Speaker 2: I'm yeah, too cool? And now I have a little

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Speaker 2: bit more of an appreciation.

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Speaker 5: I would say that I loved it as a kid

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Speaker 5: meant a lot. Fourth July, I meant a lot to me.

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Speaker 5: We used I used to go down to Missouri with

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Speaker 5: my mom and buy fireworks, bring it back to our

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Speaker 5: our rural farm in Iowa and shoot them off, have fun.

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Speaker 5: I think now as an adult, I'm, you know, like,

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Speaker 5: occasional fireworks show is fun. But you know, I think

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Speaker 5: what I was really against drones in general. But drone

918
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Speaker 5: shows are very cool and they don't spook veterans. They

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Speaker 5: don't spook dogs or bees or birds. They can do

920
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Speaker 5: really cool stuff. But I will say some this rule

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Speaker 5: fireworks warehouse in California. I put this on Twitter and

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Speaker 5: I was Sam ninety nine. If you want to check

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Speaker 5: it out. This is a helicopter hovering over this fireworks

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Speaker 5: warehouse somewhere in California and County Yolo. Yeah, Yolo County,

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Speaker 5: very fitting. You only live once, so don't blow your

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Speaker 5: fingers off. So it was smoking and all of a sudden,

927
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Speaker 5: just this massive Hollywood style explosion. It was wild. So

928
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Speaker 5: check that out. But yeah, fireworks are cool once in

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Speaker 5: a while, but you kind of get you see enough shows,

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Speaker 5: you're like, right, well.

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Speaker 1: The fireworks shows are different that now looks some of

932
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Speaker 1: the fireworks shows are better than they used to be.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you on drone shows firework shows. I

934
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Speaker 1: am one of those, like, can we just get the finale, Like,

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Speaker 1: just give me. I'd rather have fireworks five minutes of

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Speaker 1: the finale than thirty minutes with a two minute finale.

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Speaker 1: But but and I I actually agree with Jason. But

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Speaker 1: I think that's why we like it. Right, It's like

939
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Speaker 1: a it's like a primal thing. Yes, it's simple. We

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Speaker 1: like blowing stuff up. Now, I don't actually like the

941
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Speaker 1: ones that blow stuff up, the M one thousands or whatever.

942
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Speaker 1: You know, the M eights go to M one thousands

943
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Speaker 1: and they are little mini sticks of dynamite. It can

944
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Speaker 1: be fun, but I really like the ones that fire

945
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Speaker 1: stuff up.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love four seasons. Yeah, the one that goes

947
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Speaker 2: you know, white to yellow to green to red and

948
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Speaker 2: then putters out.

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Speaker 1: It is It's also an interesting cottage industry, right. It's

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Speaker 1: like could be the same people to do like Christmas

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Speaker 1: trais like pumpkin pumpkin patch, Christmas tree sales, and fireworks, right,

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Speaker 1: and those people like only work a couple weeks out

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Speaker 1: of the year, and each of those.

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Speaker 5: Things and their carnies, well they're also travel a way.

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Speaker 5: They're like also in states where they're illegal, which I

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Speaker 5: never like understood, Like there are fireworks stores where fireworks

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Speaker 5: aren't legal, and I've always undered what the It goes

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Speaker 5: back to that Joe Dirt scene where he's like, uh no, Cirril,

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Speaker 5: we only have snakes and sparklers. It's like where all

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Speaker 5: your your fud ruckers and your your your belly blasters

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Speaker 5: and your your feed ripples. By the way, that stuff

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Speaker 5: is expensive.

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Speaker 1: It's it's expensive. It's also sneaky expensive. Yes, it is

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Speaker 1: steaky expensive.

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Speaker 8: Do you guys?

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Speaker 5: Do you guys like the I was obsessed as a

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Speaker 5: kid with those fireworks. They would fire out the little

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Speaker 5: parrot chute guy, they would come sprinkling down. Then you

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Speaker 5: could go catch run after it and catch it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think part of part of my love for it

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Speaker 1: is in California didn't have them, didn't.

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Speaker 5: You didn't have the fun like personal foul.

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Speaker 1: We had like flowers and then you had to like

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Speaker 1: peel off the flowers if you want to make something,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, then you had to get the one.

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Speaker 5: Tanks, tanks and boats were fun, fire little cannons and stuff.

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Speaker 6: Good.

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Speaker 9: Thanks