Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to the weekend edition of your Second Date Update.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know how I tell you this. We're
Speaker 2: going to try something new, I know, for you know,
Speaker 2: I know people don't like new.
Speaker 1: Things, but we're just curious because we know you love
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Speaker 2: Don't realize that.
Speaker 1: We actually do a full hour of brand new content
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Speaker 1: We do another segment that is very relationship drama heavy.
Speaker 2: And very loved. Yes, yes, totally beloved.
Speaker 1: That's called Awkward Tuesday phone Calls, and that's whenever you
Speaker 1: have a relationship issue and you need our help making
Speaker 1: a phone call. So on Sundays, just for this month only,
Speaker 1: we're gonna try it out. See what you guys think.
Speaker 1: If you like it, if you don't like it, let
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Speaker 3: If you like the Second Date, you're gonna be obsessed
Speaker 3: with Awkward.
Speaker 2: To Yeah it is. Sometimes they're more dramatic, could anything?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Truly truly?
Speaker 3: Brook tell her I stole her Walll and I want
Speaker 3: to come clean about it.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, did you, by the way, we should talk. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, all right, here it is.
Speaker 1: Here's your awkward Tuesday phone call on a Sunday, just
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: We're trying it out. Listen up.
Speaker 5: Is it possible to have a platonic relationship with someone
Speaker 5: of the opposite sex?
Speaker 4: I think so.
Speaker 2: I think it's rare, but I think it's true.
Speaker 5: I agree, I think it can too, And I've been
Speaker 5: telling brook that for years. But every time I walk
Speaker 5: by her desk, her glasses fog up. Oh my god,
Speaker 5: jewel drips onto her keyboard.
Speaker 2: That's probably eating my lunch.
Speaker 5: She's watching videos of waterfalls and Ferris Wheels, trying to
Speaker 5: get her mind off. It turns out one of our
Speaker 5: listeners is having a similar problem with one of her
Speaker 5: closest guy friends keep walking by her. If she doesn't
Speaker 5: do something now, she might lose that friendship forever. Oh god,
Speaker 5: oh great, Brooks glasses look like.
Speaker 4: A sauna room again.
Speaker 2: I do not find you.
Speaker 5: Keep saying that.
Speaker 2: I don't fight.
Speaker 4: It's sit down.
Speaker 5: Let's just cool things down. You can clean up your glasses.
Speaker 5: Gunch of mom jeans. What have you got to do
Speaker 5: before we do an awkward Tuesday phone call? Coming up next.
Speaker 4: It's awkward.
Speaker 2: It's Tuesday.
Speaker 4: It's awkward Tuesday phone call. You know.
Speaker 5: Forbes magazine just declared US the number one show in
Speaker 5: the world for relationship drama.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, they also ranked US seven hundred and fifty eighth
Speaker 5: at effectively solving relationship dramas.
Speaker 1: That can't be last place, though it's not much higher
Speaker 1: optimism that.
Speaker 5: So yeah, today's callers should feel real good that they
Speaker 5: turn to us. Her name is Shana. Shana, it's your
Speaker 5: last chance to back out? Are you sure you want
Speaker 5: to do this?
Speaker 6: I'm sure.
Speaker 2: We're not almost last for nothing.
Speaker 5: I'm proud of that. So Shana, tell us a little
Speaker 5: bit about what's going on in your life that's caused
Speaker 5: so much drama.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have this like super weird situation going on.
Speaker 6: I've been friends with the same group of people basically
Speaker 6: for like eight years. We get everything together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think everybody has like that pure group, right,
Speaker 1: like your people that you use and if.
Speaker 4: You don't, that's totally okay.
Speaker 5: Brooke did not mean to single you out and make.
Speaker 4: You feel bad.
Speaker 2: Does that hurt your feelings?
Speaker 5: I haven't traveled with I'm just saying, not everybody has
Speaker 5: a huge group of friends that they do everything. But
Speaker 5: it's okay, you don't need other people anyway. I'm proud
Speaker 5: of you for having that, Shana.
Speaker 4: What's going on with your cool group of friends?
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So, yeah, we do everything together, concerts, sports, stuff, everything.
Speaker 4: We get it. You have a great friendship and we're.
Speaker 6: All best friends and we're so happy and there's nothing
Speaker 6: wrong enough.
Speaker 2: Is a is it all women or is it a
Speaker 2: mix of guys and girls?
Speaker 6: So it's actually a mix of guys and girls. And
Speaker 6: I'm a little bit closer to one of the guys
Speaker 6: in particular. His name's Brett. So he's dating a new
Speaker 6: girl and they've been dating probably for like a few
Speaker 6: months now. At first he was bringing her to our
Speaker 6: group hangout things like it was fun and you know,
Speaker 6: I don't know too much about her yet, but she
Speaker 6: seems a little shy but still really sweet and cool,
Speaker 6: and I know it must be kind of intimidating, like,
Speaker 6: you know, meeting all these people.
Speaker 2: Are you guys cool with that?
Speaker 1: I mean, like I would assume between the eight of you,
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of boyfriends and girlfriends that have come.
Speaker 6: And gone and yeah, exactly, like we're kind of yeah,
Speaker 6: we're pretty used to it at this point, and it's
Speaker 6: always just kind of like a more the merrier type thing.
Speaker 6: We all have a good time. Yeah, well so I
Speaker 6: thought we were all having a good time. But about
Speaker 6: a month ago, I noticed every time I would reach
Speaker 6: out to Brett or message or anything, I wouldn't hear
Speaker 6: anything back.
Speaker 1: That's odd, okay, And is this on a group text
Speaker 1: or are you talking about when you privately message him?
Speaker 6: Yeah, like when I privately reach out to him, to him,
Speaker 6: he doesn't really say anything back. So I really haven't
Speaker 6: heard from him very much in like a month now.
Speaker 6: And what's even weirder is I noticed that when we
Speaker 6: would all go hang out, I would never see them.
Speaker 6: And then I realized it wasn't that he wasn't going
Speaker 6: to anything. He was just not going to stuff when
Speaker 6: I was there.
Speaker 3: Something that must make you feel so bad.
Speaker 1: I mean we all feel that, right, because like I
Speaker 1: have really close guy friends.
Speaker 5: Oh really, do you have loads of male friends, Brooke boy?
Speaker 4: God?
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying like he's a jealousy thing with
Speaker 1: like significant others, and sometimes it's worse than others. Are
Speaker 1: you thinking that the girlfriend is like you can't hang
Speaker 1: out with her?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're too close?
Speaker 6: Well yeah, so I reach out to my other friends
Speaker 6: when I realized that it was it wasn't an everybody
Speaker 6: think it was just anything, and they basically were like, yeah,
Speaker 6: something definitely going on there. Okay, I'm not crazy.
Speaker 4: Can I just compliment you?
Speaker 3: You must be very pretty because this happens a lot
Speaker 3: if you're especially if you're attractive and you're clothes with somebody.
Speaker 5: Or is there any like history between you and bread
Speaker 5: or is it just strictly a friendship.
Speaker 6: I mean, we're definitely just friends. It's strictly a friendship.
Speaker 6: But I will say we've known each other for years,
Speaker 6: so like we went on a road trip and like
Speaker 6: had one random like hookup thing, Like there was no
Speaker 6: like sex involved, but like you know, you got.
Speaker 1: To try and make out once, you know, right, how
Speaker 1: do you know how?
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, how do you know if you're just going
Speaker 1: to be friends or not? If you don't like just
Speaker 1: dip your.
Speaker 5: Toes what friend text is called the sample plan?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Don't your toe You did your tongue, all right?
Speaker 5: And it sounds like that happened. You said it happened
Speaker 5: years ago.
Speaker 6: It was Yeah, it was so long ago. It's nothing.
Speaker 6: It's ancient history. And we're one hundred percent just you know,
Speaker 6: platonic that we're just friends, to the point.
Speaker 3: Where if he ever came out and said he had
Speaker 3: feelings for you, you would.
Speaker 6: Be like you, Yeah, I'd be a little uncomfortable at this.
Speaker 2: I hope she would be nicer about it. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm used to hearing you.
Speaker 1: I mean, has this happened before as this, you know,
Speaker 1: because it sounds like you guys are really really close
Speaker 1: and it can be intimidating for potential girlfriends or boyfriends
Speaker 1: if you're dating somebody too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it has happened. But for me to just kind
Speaker 6: of be completely shut out, this hasn't happened before. This
Speaker 6: is definitely weird.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it definitely sounds awkward. So what made you email
Speaker 5: us for help?
Speaker 6: I just want to get in touch with him, like,
Speaker 6: and I don't know how else to do it. I
Speaker 6: just want to kind of have like an honest conversation,
Speaker 6: and he's not really giving me that chance because you
Speaker 6: won't really talk to me. So I was hoping you
Speaker 6: guys could help.
Speaker 4: He's avoiding the convo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's understandable, and avoiding their calls.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess he doesn't want to know the girlfriend's
Speaker 3: probably got the phone.
Speaker 1: Might not that I've done that.
Speaker 4: That would be weird.
Speaker 5: We're gonna play a song here real quick, Shana, and
Speaker 5: we'll come back give you a little bit of advice
Speaker 5: before we make the phone call to a Wait, are
Speaker 5: we calling Brett?
Speaker 4: Are we calling his girlfriend?
Speaker 6: Brett?
Speaker 5: Okay, we'll let you make the call to Brett and
Speaker 5: do your awkward Tuesday.
Speaker 4: Phone call right after this.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, all right, hold on, it's awkward.
Speaker 2: It's Tuesday.
Speaker 4: It's awkward Tuesday phone call.
Speaker 5: As I said previously, our expertise is in ruining relationships
Speaker 5: mending friendships, so this really isn't in our wheelhouse right now,
Speaker 5: but we're going to try our best for Shana, who
Speaker 5: needs our help reaching out to her good friend Brett
Speaker 5: because Brett is not allowed to talk to her right now.
Speaker 2: Well that's what she thinks, so she doesn't.
Speaker 5: Feel comfortable with that. She wants our help to get
Speaker 5: him on the phone and see if they can salvage
Speaker 5: the friendship. And I really think we need something special
Speaker 5: to start this one off, and I know Jose and Alexis,
Speaker 5: you guys are friends, So to kick this off, I'd
Speaker 5: like both of you to do a good luck kiss.
Speaker 5: That'll make shanea feel comfortable a guy that she's kissed
Speaker 5: the outside the studio.
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 5: Well maybe if we can't give you a good luck kiss,
Speaker 5: Shane will at least have some advice. Brooke, do you
Speaker 5: have anything for her?
Speaker 2: I'm good, yeah, No, honestly, SHANEA.
Speaker 1: Lake, I think the one thing you need to watch
Speaker 1: out for in this conversation with him is making sure
Speaker 1: you're not putting his girlfriend down because it's it's.
Speaker 2: Just a landmine.
Speaker 1: You know, it'll make him defensive. He's already got one
Speaker 1: lady given him weird ultimatums. You need to be the sane,
Speaker 1: nice kind one.
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4: That was actually some good advice.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that a lot of people out there
Speaker 3: are assuming, including myself, that there's some type of jealousy
Speaker 3: happening here.
Speaker 2: Well I think that's obvious, yeah, totally.
Speaker 3: Well I'm an investigator, bro ok Yeah, no, I did that.
Speaker 4: There's obviously something there. So once you confirm that.
Speaker 3: I think the best solution is to find a way
Speaker 3: to set up a date with just you and her,
Speaker 3: not him involved, so she can get to know you
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 4: And know that you're harmless.
Speaker 3: You're really just a friend, there's nothing there, and that
Speaker 3: way she trusts you.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I didn't think of that. Actually, yeah, maybe came out.
Speaker 5: You and Brett's girlfriend can kiss.
Speaker 2: Oh I don't like.
Speaker 4: I mean it worked out for you and Brett. You
Speaker 4: guys have a strong relationship.
Speaker 1: Is this why you don't have as.
Speaker 6: I know?
Speaker 5: See, I'm learning something by doing this too. This is
Speaker 5: really useful. But we're gonna die Brett's number right now
Speaker 5: for you, Shane and let you make your awkward Tuesday
Speaker 5: phone call. You ready, all right.
Speaker 2: Got it, you can do it.
Speaker 5: We'll be here when we feel like you need a
Speaker 5: little bit of help.
Speaker 4: Here we go.
Speaker 6: Hello, Hello, Hello, Yeah, Hey, it's me.
Speaker 7: Oh sorry, that's not what came up on my phone.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I know. That's because you weren't answering your phone.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Sorry, I'm kind of a I wasn't prepared to
Speaker 7: have to talk to you right now. Sorry, I'm just
Speaker 7: kind of yeah.
Speaker 6: I was trying to figure out Yeah, I'm trying to
Speaker 6: figure out what's going on, dude, Like I haven't heard
Speaker 6: from you in like a month, and I've just kind
Speaker 6: of been hearing stuff that I'm trying to figure out.
Speaker 6: You know, I wanted to hear from you about it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I get that. It's just the thing I'm in
Speaker 7: kind of new and I don't know what to say.
Speaker 6: I mean, like, I know, I know this relationship is
Speaker 6: new and everything. I totally get it, like we've all
Speaker 6: been there, but I don't know, I just feel like
Speaker 6: I don't want to feel like she's the reason, like
Speaker 6: we don't ever talk again, and this just feels really weird.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I get that it is weird.
Speaker 6: Like I'm trying to figure out, like does she hate
Speaker 6: me because you know, you don't tell me anything, so
Speaker 6: I just don't know what's going on.
Speaker 7: No, she doesn't. She doesn't hate you. I mean you've
Speaker 7: been around her a little. She's she's kind of shy
Speaker 7: and like I told her just because I wanted, you know,
Speaker 7: which is maybe even not the good move. I told
Speaker 7: her that you and I had had you know, weird, Well.
Speaker 6: Well it was only I mean you only like it
Speaker 6: was only one time, Like is that really what she's
Speaker 6: upset about, Like that you told her it happened like
Speaker 6: years ago, right.
Speaker 7: Well, the road trip thing, yeah, and then the seen
Speaker 7: good to Maya your parentast any of that.
Speaker 4: Oops.
Speaker 6: Oh oh oh, I totally forgot about that. But I
Speaker 6: mean they were both like a really long time ago.
Speaker 7: I know, I know I have them, but I told
Speaker 7: her that, you know, and we're totally.
Speaker 6: Like it's not like we're not like that, like we're
Speaker 6: you know, like we were drunk. We're just having fun,
Speaker 6: like we're around our friends. You know, what happens that
Speaker 6: kind of stuff happens.
Speaker 7: Like I'm well aware, we're good, you know, just it's
Speaker 7: it's almost like there's this interim period where I'm kind
Speaker 7: of proving something to her. I had no intention of
Speaker 7: just like I don't know how to handle this, to
Speaker 7: be quite honest, Well, I.
Speaker 6: Mean what can we do, Like how do we prove
Speaker 6: how do we show her, you know, like that I'm harmless.
Speaker 6: We are literally just really good friends.
Speaker 7: Like you'll have to bury those really really strong feelings
Speaker 7: you have for me. That's the first thing.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, br shut the hell you are not
Speaker 6: making it's better. That's not funny.
Speaker 7: But I mean, you're so in love with me that
Speaker 7: it's just kind of hard, you know.
Speaker 6: Oh, it's unbearable, it's really Oh god, whatever will I do?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I actually I think I have a theory about
Speaker 7: the Synco de Mayo thing. I don't think you knew
Speaker 7: it with me, you were so.
Speaker 6: I mean I don't remember most of when I so
Speaker 6: that's probably accurate.
Speaker 7: But yeah, see, I mean.
Speaker 6: That's what that's what I mean. That doesn't make me
Speaker 6: look very good, but that's what she needs to know,
Speaker 6: you know, like it's not about you or anything. Like
Speaker 6: we're just having fun. And I don't know, like should
Speaker 6: we like can we talk to her together or something?
Speaker 6: I just want to.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I just want to be friends with you again. And
Speaker 6: this sucks, and I really.
Speaker 7: I don't know. I don't want I obviously don't want
Speaker 7: to this friendship to go away. That's never been my intention.
Speaker 7: And for now, I mean, I don't know. You like
Speaker 7: I bought a burner phone or something and me online,
Speaker 7: so we have to kind of figure this out. I think, like,
Speaker 7: you know, since we know we're not going to be
Speaker 7: doing anything we shouldn't, we can just have like a
Speaker 7: secret friendship. You know that no one knows about for now.
Speaker 6: Uh, that is not going to work. Shoot. So the
Speaker 6: thing is when I couldn't get in touch with you,
Speaker 6: the reason that you don't recognize the phone number is
Speaker 6: because this is actually on the radio.
Speaker 7: What's going on?
Speaker 5: Right? Secret?
Speaker 6: So right? I'm so sorry. I didn't realize that.
Speaker 7: You mean, like on a rate like like live. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 7: why is there fifty people saying yeah.
Speaker 4: There's four of us here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're on Brookly Jeffrey in the morning right now, Brett,
Speaker 5: Well that it's okay, you didn't.
Speaker 7: I'm thinking about the secret friends thing. That's not going
Speaker 7: to play very well on my.
Speaker 5: Just a few brillion people know.
Speaker 2: It was good.
Speaker 1: I mean you were joking about her being in love
Speaker 1: with you, right, that was a joke.
Speaker 4: That a joke. I couldn't tell.
Speaker 7: I hope sarcasm like reads over the radio or whatever.
Speaker 2: It was just very dry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, it's a it's a joke though.
Speaker 5: You guys don't have secret feelings for each other outside
Speaker 5: of the friendship.
Speaker 6: No, No, I mean that's why I came on here, like, yeah,
Speaker 6: this isn't it shouldn't be a big deal. But I
Speaker 6: mean I get the radio thing that's and the secret
Speaker 6: thing that sounds awful, but the rest of it.
Speaker 3: But what about you told us you hooked up once
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, multiple times.
Speaker 2: I forgot about the other time.
Speaker 3: I don't know that's hooking up when it comes to cheating,
Speaker 3: Jose is like suddenly a math whiz.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But the thing is it was so forgettable that she
Speaker 2: forgot about it. She cares about it.
Speaker 4: It doesn't bode well for you, Brett.
Speaker 1: Brett, it doesn't sound like you have delivered your friendship
Speaker 1: to your girlfriend very well.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it wasn't handled well obviously. So I just once
Speaker 7: I told her about like the road trip thing and
Speaker 7: the other thing, then it was just like she couldn't
Speaker 7: not hear that we didn't have feelings sparks.
Speaker 5: And look, we are running a little bit short on
Speaker 5: time here. But Brett, something that you don't know is
Speaker 5: before we called you, we went around the room and
Speaker 5: all gave advice to Shane on what we thought she
Speaker 5: should do. And somebody here suggested that Shana and your
Speaker 5: girlfriend should hang out one on one without you and
Speaker 5: they could get to know each other a little bit.
Speaker 5: What do you think of that?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: But she's she's such a like ballbuster that I'm afraid
Speaker 7: she's gonna like overshoot and then I'm going to be like,
Speaker 7: my girlfriend's gonna break up with me.
Speaker 4: That's how you're bone.
Speaker 5: I understand it's a weird situation, but I think you
Speaker 5: should at least talk to your girlfriend about it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's worth bringing up.
Speaker 7: It's low risk, bro Yeah, and be like, you're the
Speaker 7: only one in the area that doesn't know that this happened.
Speaker 7: So I know her now, you know, Like, well.
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you. Awkward Tuesday is one of our
Speaker 2: most popular podcasts. You could actually send it to her,
Speaker 2: find it on Spotify anywhere else. She can hear it
Speaker 2: all over again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can hear your not good joke. We'll laugh
Speaker 4: about it together.
Speaker 6: Hey, I don't have to rag on you. They're doing
Speaker 6: it for me.
Speaker 2: Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning