1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: I do look at the roster and what we have 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: in the coaching staff. We should win games. We have 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: performed though. We're gonna hold ourselves to the high standard 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: no matter what happens. And on defense, gonna do what 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: they do. And the last time I heard they can't 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: win at Telscope once. This is the Cleveland Browns Preview Show. 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Your chance to get an in depth preview of the 8 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: week ahead in Maria. You're listening to the University Hospitals 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Here are your hosts, Kim Carmen 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: named Gerard Cherry. Thanksgiving dinner was good, but what was 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: even better? A win at home over a living legend. 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: As the Browns get set to hit the road to 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: take on the Houston Texans, we get you set as 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: we look back over the win over the Tampa Bay 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: Buccaneers and look forward to a big Week thirteen matchup, 16 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: Getting new friends can coming alongside of Gerard Cherry. It 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: is the Cleveland Browns Preview Show all along the University 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Gerard Evening, my friend, good evening, Kenneth. 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Wonderful to speak to you, is always wonderful to see 20 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: you wonderful to get this win at home on Sunday, 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: and I tell you what, it is so so needed 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: considering the way the previous two weeks had win and 23 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: you know, there was some fear gerard coming out of 24 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving weekend and what type of Browns team we 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: would see, But they came out tough on defense. The 26 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: offense that struggled a little bit after the opening fifteen 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: play script and after the opening drive they were able 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: to get ten points and then things kind of struggled 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: there for a bit, but the offense was able to 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: plug away late, getting overtime get a win. Nick Chubb 31 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: scored the winning touchdown and all of a sudden four 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: and seven. It's not the best, it's not what we 33 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: hope for, but with Deshaun Watson coming back, there is 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: a chance as we head to Houston exactly, and that's 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: the main component to it all. There is a chance. 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: And when your defense plays the way in which our 37 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: defense played on Sunday, you'll be encouraged by that can 38 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: because again it was a stalemate. Their offense couldn't do anything, 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: our office couldn't do anything. But the beautiful thing about 40 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: it in our situation is that we've seen many times 41 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: when our defense simply would just collapse, give in, would 42 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: not give the effort we thought necessary to get the 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: job done, and that certainly was not the case on Sunday. 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: What did you think of the defensive performance in the secondary, 45 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: especially gout like m j Emerson the rookie, because it 46 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: seemed like Tom Brady wanted to test him the entire game. 47 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: I know he was looking for a couple of other 48 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: guys with a J. Green getting hurt and things like that, 49 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: but boy, down the stretch, it just seemed like they 50 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: kept trying to throw on number twenty three and m 51 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: j Emerson was able to step up to the challenge, 52 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: providing tight coverage, not panicking, but embracing the moment. And 53 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: we've said this before about m J and what he 54 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: represents and how we love the fact that he welcomes 55 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: the idea of I want the best receiver. No, I'm 56 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: not trying to play it safe here, I'm not trying 57 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: to avoid conflict. I want that, as we like to 58 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: say smoke, I want the competition. I want to test myself. 59 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: I want to see if I'm tried and true and 60 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: what he's showing time and time again, is that he 61 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: is exactly that I've been so impressed by him, Kim. 62 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: But guess what. This goes back to training camp, preseason football, 63 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,839 Speaker 1: if you will, of this guy doing the right things, 64 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: approaching it the right way, and guess what it has 65 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: carried itself on into the season. And you don't hear 66 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: us talk about him hitting the rookie wall tom Brady, 67 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: by the way, you don't tom Brady wanted to test 68 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: him the entire game. Did you see? There was a 69 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: lot of things said about Tom Brady after that football game, Gerard. 70 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: Have you seen a Tom Brady that has slowed down 71 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: as compared to the hundreds of games that you've seen 72 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: him play and obviously the games that you played with him. No, 73 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't see it in that light, because what I 74 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: saw was just simply a miss connection with his receivers 75 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: and things not being there, and a lack of sense 76 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: of urgency not necessary on his part other than that 77 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: two minute situation in which they are pretty much planning 78 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: to go into the overtime and once they got to 79 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: catch this kind of okay, let's scramble and do something now. 80 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: So that was a bit puzzling, But I keep hearing 81 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: people with this narrative that this dude is slow down. 82 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: The guy lost twenty pounds, the guy went through a 83 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: major divorce, and all divorces are major and assists, but 84 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: in his case, being the public person that he is, 85 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: and when his wife represents, I get it why you're 86 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: not on why you're not on top of things. So 87 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: if you want to say that from a preparation standpoint, 88 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: things might be different with him, and he's kind of 89 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: getting back into it, that I can accept. But I 90 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: still saw a guy from what it looked like, who 91 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: was slinging it, who was accurate with the football, just 92 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: was not making a connection with his receivers. Yeah, I mean, 93 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: and and he's got great ones there. When you look 94 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: at Mike Evans and how good he's been throughout his career, 95 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: what now over ten thousand receiving yards in his career, 96 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: we saw him as just a puff and we've seen 97 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: him just blossom as his years have gone by. And 98 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: then Chris Godwin. We saw Julio Jones bshot paramedy which 99 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: tried to go to him, but the Browns defense was 100 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: able to do a really fine job against Tom Brady 101 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I want to ask you, though, 102 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: you look at the final drive that Tampa tried to 103 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: mount thirty two seconds left, were you surprised Todd Bowls 104 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: just kind of decided to go to overtime with it 105 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: because I thought maybe he should call a time out 106 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: before the Browns score. Hey, I'll take what I can get. 107 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: Trust me. On that one. I was glad he didn't, 108 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: But I thought, Okay, you got Tom Brady and you're 109 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: I know he's a defensive guy. You're trying to make 110 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: a stop. I get that. But it's like, boy, if 111 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: you call a time out here, you do get plenty 112 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: of time just in case something were to happen. Because 113 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: you're looking at fourth and ten, the chances of getting 114 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: a first down and not a touchdown are are not 115 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: too great. So it was either gonna score, you're gonna 116 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: get the ball back, and that was gonna be the 117 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: end of it. Yeah, And that's the crazy thing about 118 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: a kid, is that they were surprised they picked up 119 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: so many yards on the first and second down plays 120 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: or basically got two first downs, and the chunks that 121 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 1: they were able to get and put them right around 122 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: a fifty yard lamp I'm not mistaken. So they were like, 123 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: oh wow, we're in field goal range when we do here. 124 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: So it seems to me the mentality was, I guess 125 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: we'll just take into overtime, but quickly before we move on, 126 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: I do want to say this, Yeah, the Tampa Bay 127 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: Buccaneers remind me of remember when the l A Lakers 128 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: got Gary Payton, they got Karl Alone and I'm leaving 129 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: somebody else out as well, and the ones that we 130 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: all remember. Yeah, and it was like they did that 131 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: and they were like, Okay, we're gonna recapch the glory 132 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: with these guys. But they were behind there. They were 133 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: just they just got old, right, And Julio is not 134 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: the same Julio, that's obvious, and and Mike doesn't look 135 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: like to say Mike and God's coming off of who 136 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: had a good game is coming off of a need surgery. 137 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: So I get it. It was a good It was 138 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: a good defensive performance by the Cleveland Browns, And it 139 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: was a good defensive performance by this rookie who we 140 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: have on the hotline right now. He has done a 141 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: fantastic job in this campaign. M j Emerson, the Browns 142 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: rookie cornerback joins us right now. M J. Thanks for 143 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: joining us. We're doing what can you can you take 144 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: us through this this not just Sunday, but this rookie 145 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: campaign where you've turned a lot of heads. You've not 146 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: hit a rookie wall like so many do. Oh man. 147 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: You know, I'm still figuring that out. It was a 148 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: lot of ups and down you know that come along 149 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: with his journey. But you know, I'm just trying to 150 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: know figure my way out through this game or just 151 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: keep building a weekly not but I'm doing pretty well well. 152 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: M J. I want to say thank you for making 153 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: me sound and look real smart because what you were 154 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: doing in preseason and training camp I picked up on 155 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: early on in camp and you've continued that. And I 156 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: was telling people, hey, this guy's got a chance to 157 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: do something special, and you've been doing that. And one 158 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: of the things I appreciate about your game because when 159 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: I do get a chance to hear you and the 160 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: interviews after the game, you talk about the idea that 161 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: you want that coverage, you want that top guy. Where 162 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: did this mentality develop where you're sending yourself even as 163 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: a rookie the National Football League that eight I want 164 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: the best guys out there, and I want to be 165 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: in a position where I'm defending them. Oh man, I 166 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: don't know. I just feel like, you know, my preparation 167 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: through the week and really just growing up, I've always 168 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: been like a major competitor. So like you know, I 169 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: always want the best guy, you know, I want the 170 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: hardest you know, the hardest job, and I wanted, you know, 171 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: just just like I don't know, I just always trying to. 172 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: I just I don't know, I just always try to 173 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: just who you are. I've got that tip on my shoulder. Man. 174 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: I just love Kapia. I love going against the best, 175 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: the best player on the field, you know, and it's 176 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: gonna make me a better player. So that's that's kind 177 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: of how I look at it. Well, I love that 178 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: outlook because that was gonna be my next question. So 179 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: the Browns get you in the third round and immediately, 180 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: like you know, there's not a lot of coaches and 181 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: things like that and love to talk to media members, 182 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: but scouts they love to talk MJ. And immediately the 183 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: phone start lighting up, going to the Brown's. Gotta steal you, guys, 184 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: gotta steal you guys, Gotta steal what I'm thinking. That's great. 185 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: I'm glad the Brown's gotta steal, But why wasn't he 186 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: picked up in the first couple of rounds. Is you 187 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: mentioned the chip on your shoulder? Is that something that 188 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: you've carried with you this rookie year? H Yeah, so 189 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: I would agree. You know, um, my junior year, you know, 190 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: I played a really good ball, but I wasn't talking 191 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: as much, so I couldn't put a lot of good 192 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: things on tape. But I feel like, you know, um, 193 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: I came in as a true freshman and then SEC 194 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: I know, I started, I want to say, seven games, 195 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: and I had a lot of good films, so and 196 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: I and I in my feerious I know it's a 197 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: lot of good cornerback coming out of that class. I 198 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: know it's like the biggest job class, but I still 199 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: felt disrespected. You know how I went as late as 200 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: I did. Well, you know, it's a blessing. You know 201 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: that I'm in this situation and I'm I'm here with 202 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: the Brown. You know, I wouldn't want it any other way, 203 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like it was direspectful. You know 204 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: that I was on the board that late and m 205 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: J One of things that we talked about is a 206 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: difference between college and pro game is the speed. And 207 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: obviously you've done a phenomenal job of adjusting to adapt 208 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: into that. But what was the first thing that you 209 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: noticed when you didn't make that transition for playing against 210 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: college guys to now guys on the pro level? Uh? 211 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: Just going football? You know, football one on one. I mean, 212 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: it's it's real simple, you know, when you kind of 213 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: understand the game. Um, the game fear is much faster 214 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: than college I would I would agree with that. But 215 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, as long as you know football, you know, 216 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: and just you watch film and you study your opponent, 217 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: then you know it won't be that bast I feel 218 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: like m j Emerson joining us on the show. What 219 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: can you tell I know, there's not a lot you 220 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: can tell us. I don't want you to slip up 221 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: or anything, but what can you tell us about what 222 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: you're keying in on against the Houston Texans on Sunday? 223 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: Just just coming there, you know and doing our job, 224 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: doing my job and just going one and note And 225 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: then one more question was ja I saw that you 226 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: tweeted zero catches, zero yards. Did Mike Evans respond back 227 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: to that tweet. What did you say? What about it? 228 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: I just asked you, did Mike Evans respond back to 229 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: the tweet that you send out clarifying things far as 230 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: the zero catches in zero yards that you had sent out, 231 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: Oh not that I know you know it wasn't any smoking. 232 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,599 Speaker 1: Then I would just say the fact. M J. We 233 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: we thank you very much for the time, continued success 234 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: and all the best for the rest of the season. 235 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: All right, thank you, thanks for having you. Have a 236 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: good night, you two. M J. Emerson, Brown's rookie cornerback 237 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: joining us in the player spotlight when we come back. 238 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: Of course, later on we'll talk to the voice here 239 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, Jim Donovan, and we'll talk about everything to 240 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: come with the Cleveland Browns taking on the Houston Texans, 241 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson taking over the reins for the Cleveland Browns, 242 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: what that's gonna do over the next six games, and 243 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: how well Jacoby ber said has done for this Cleveland 244 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: Browns football team. 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The first major 254 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: outdoor hockey game at First Energy Stadium on February eighteenth, 255 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: the Ohio State Buckeyes will host the Michigan Wolverines right 256 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: here at First Energy Stadium. Tickets are on sale now 257 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: starting at just twelve dollars. For more information, visit first 258 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: Energy Stadium dot com. Slash face off are called four 259 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: four oh eight nine one fifty fifty Gerard. Final thoughts 260 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: on that win against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as we 261 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: get ready to turn the page to the Houston Texans 262 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: on Sunday. One of the best games we've seen out 263 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: of the defense situation where the offense was stalling. But 264 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: more importantly we even talk about this kid, David and 265 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: Joku from a leadership standpoint. From here, get the job done. 266 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: Standpoint and what that represents for his maturation and what 267 00:12:59,880 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: he did on Sunday. I can't say enough because Ken, 268 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: prior to the game starting, he held the huddle, he 269 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: talked about guys, he employed, guys that need to go 270 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: out there and play with heart and conviction, and he's 271 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: been promoting the mantra of we're not done yet, and 272 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: to go out there and play the way in which 273 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: he played to make that catch is one of the 274 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: greatest catches I've seen, and I've seen a lot of football. 275 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: Was very impressive. Man. I can't say enough about it. Now, 276 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: You're right about that, you know. I I've come away 277 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: so impressed by not just his play. His play has 278 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: been outstanding, but the way he's led uh throughout. This 279 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: has been a season where you needed leaders, and you know, 280 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of question of some of those 281 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: leaders here, but I think that he has risen to 282 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: the occasion this year. And some guys, you know, they 283 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: get paid and they they kind of go away. And 284 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: David and Joke, who was having himself a fine season 285 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: both on the field and in the locker room, being 286 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: a leader and obviously coming through fantastically within this Brown's offense. 287 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson returning to the Cleveland Browns will talk about 288 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: him here in just a moment. But Jacoby Brissette eleven 289 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: games four and seven over that time, an emotional win 290 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: on Sunday against Tampa Bay. Can you speak to the 291 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: fans from the things that you see on the sidelines 292 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: about how much Jacoby Brisset meant to this team during 293 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: the eleven game stretch you hear me talk about all 294 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: the time. Can best teammates are the selfless ones, the 295 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: ones who don't make it about themselves, who make it 296 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: about the team first and foremost. He epitomizes that. That's 297 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: what you love about Jacobe his work ethic, his approach, 298 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: his attitude, his just willingness to do what is ever 299 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: necessary at the risk of self sacrifice to get the 300 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: job done for the team. It's hard being a backup quarterback. 301 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: It's hard knowing you in a position that no matter 302 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: what you do, you're gonna be supplanting. But he embraces that, 303 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: he rerailishes that, and he's not negative. He's not and 304 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: he says malcontent in the locker room. He knows what 305 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: was at stake and he did a hell of a job, 306 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: and the fact that he all played Justin Herbert, the 307 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: fact that he outplayed Lamar Jackson, the fact that he 308 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: outplayed Joe Burrow, just to name a few. I am 309 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: so impressed with that because I'm here to tell you 310 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: I was one of the skeptics, if you will, who 311 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: said early on, he's probably gonna be the week link 312 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: to this football team, and that turned out to be 313 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: completely wrong. He played well for us to win a 314 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: bunch of football games rather than did win. I'll tell 315 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: you right now, Gerard, I was right there with you, 316 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: and he he's done a fantastic job for this football team. 317 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: Finishes his career with it, well, not his career obviously, 318 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: still with the Cleveland Browns, but his starting stretch with 319 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns twelve touchdown, six interceptions. That that final 320 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: touchdown as fabulous as it gets, uh to David and 321 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: Joe who when he went up top got the touchdown, 322 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: and then it's set the Browns effectively to overtime. So 323 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: Jacoby percent great human being, great football player for this 324 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: football team, did a wonderful job as a leader for 325 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: this team, and certainly his presidence is gonna be felt 326 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: right there on the sideline as he'll put on his 327 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: hat and he'll put on his headset and I'll obviously 328 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: stay in the game. Hopefully we won't need him, but 329 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: in case, we know we will be in good hands 330 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: because as the offense is about to be turned over 331 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: to Deshaun Watson for the final six games of the campaign, Garade, 332 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: and you know, a lot has been wondered about what 333 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: we're going to get from Deshaun Watson and what fans 334 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: want from Deshaun Watson. Let me ask you, what do 335 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: you want to see out of Deshaun Watson, not just 336 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: in this game on Sunday, but also through the next 337 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: six altogether. I want to see his teammates pick him up. 338 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: I want to see his teammates support him. I don't 339 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: want to see a situation where they're like, okay, dog, 340 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: you're back. It's all on you. It's never the case 341 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: with the quarterback position in the first place. It's all 342 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: about support when you play quarterback. But what I do 343 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: want to see is that great athletic ability, that ability 344 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: to do what break through a play in which is not, 345 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: as we like to say, when you're in a certain 346 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: play where it's not on schedule. How is he performing 347 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: those situations and taking care of business, the deep passing 348 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: that element, the running around the football field, design runs. 349 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: I want to see all that stuff. What I don't 350 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: want to see is a guy I boggle down and 351 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: overwhelmed with a bunch of play calls. I just want 352 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: to see the guy be supported by his teammates and 353 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: do the things that we've become customer him to do. 354 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: But with the understanding that he hasn't played up at 355 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: that point, to be seven hundred days, it's been a 356 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: long time for him Geron. Honestly, I just want to 357 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: see good solid quarterback play. I don't think, I know. 358 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: I've seen him play exceedingly well, just exceedingly well in 359 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: his time in the NFL, and I think that time 360 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: will come. But I'm I'm thinking on Sunday. You know, 361 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: Houston as a football team, they look like easy pickens one, 362 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: nine and one. I really think though that, you know, 363 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: I think it gives fans visions a grandeur of four 364 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 1: hundred yards and four touchdowns and going crazy. I'd like 365 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: to just see, Hey, let's let's move the offense. Nice 366 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, n ice cream Hunt, get your you know, 367 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: get your bearings. They're get back used to playing NFL football, 368 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: might have to take a couple of hits just to 369 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: get used to play in NFL football again. Get Donnie Houston, 370 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: get a win, get back on the plane, get back 371 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: to Cleveland, and then we kind of roll up our 372 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: sleeves and see what's working, what we can work on, 373 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: and things like that before you take on the Cincinnati 374 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: Bengals next Sunday, down in Houston or down in Cincinnati. 375 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: Well down in Cincinnati. But here's a deal, though, King, Yes, 376 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: though Texans are playing a horrible brand of football right now, 377 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: and they're more unlikely gonna have a new head coach 378 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: and all that entails. It is yeah, but you don't 379 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: control who's on your schedule, and what you do is 380 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: in these situations you take advantage of it. So you're 381 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: you have the perfect opportunity from this standpoint to actually 382 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: take some chances and some risk in this game from 383 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: a development standpoint, because of the fact that their offense 384 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: is anemic. You got pierced the running back, alan the quarterback, 385 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: he's not doing much of anything, and you have a 386 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: tight end who believe his last name is Aikin's he's 387 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: feast of famine. So it's gonna be opportunity for you 388 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: to take some chances. And deficitly, what I want to 389 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: see though, is them flat out control these guys and 390 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: get after them. And let's build on that, right, Let's 391 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: build on what we saw, what we thought we were 392 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: gonna get out to the Cincinnati game and went to 393 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: Miami Miami and got boat raced. So let's build on that. 394 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: There are a good running football team and Damian Pierce 395 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: is very good, so that it might be a situation 396 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: where it could be a little closer than you wanted 397 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: it to be getting ready for the fourth quarter. They 398 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: were a good rushing team. We've had problems being able 399 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: to stop the route about it two, So it could be, well, 400 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: we wanted to get the Shawn ready for this football 401 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: game and wanted to make sure that he was okay 402 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: throughout this football game. But fourth quarter, Drid, you might 403 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: be calling on him to go out there and seal 404 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: the deal throwing the football and then be able to 405 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: get off the field with a win exactly. And that 406 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: could be the scenario, because lord knows, we have not 407 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: done still a job stopping a round. But I will 408 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,199 Speaker 1: say this going back to Tampa, even though we're supposed 409 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: to move on after that big play. They had a 410 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: fifty nine yards or something like that. I think we've 411 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: surrended more than forty yards after that, which is pretty impressive. 412 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: They're very good against him. 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Today, Gerard, we go around the league, and 430 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: first things first is the an f C North, the 431 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 1: Bengals Division, to win or lose. They are tied with 432 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: Baltimore right now for first place. All right now, I'm 433 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: gonna say to win. The reason why I'm saying that 434 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson leaving practice earlier. You have the collapse once 435 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: again in that defense. And granted it's Lamar Jackson's football team, 436 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: but they are missing the services a Wink Martindale. They 437 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: made a poor decision using him as a fall guy 438 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: for the Wolves of a defense that was so beat up, 439 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: like a team that was beat up, and they are 440 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: struggling because of it. He he's doing a great job 441 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 1: with the Giants, and I know, and it's what's terrible 442 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: for Wink Martindale, honestly is you see him on the 443 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: sideline and he is a he's a he's a different cat, 444 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: and everybody just goes, oh, that's Rex Ryan, and it's like, well, 445 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: he is a character. But most defensive coordinators, I mean, 446 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: you see got Buddy Ryan. A lot of defensive coordinators 447 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: are characters. And Rex Ryan was a character. It's like, hey, 448 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 1: just because he you know, he might be a little different, 449 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that he's not a great football coach or 450 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: might be a possible head coaching candidate at some point there. 451 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: And I tell you, he's done a great job with 452 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: the Giants, and I totally agree with you. I think 453 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: they used him as a fall guy and he was 454 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: the wrong guy to use because things are just they 455 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: don't seem to be right. They do not seem to 456 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: be right over there in Baltimore right now. I mean, 457 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: that's a football team that very well could be nine 458 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: and two, ten and one, and they have just let 459 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: these games get away with them late in the fourth quarter. 460 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: Up moving on, who's the best team in the NFC South. 461 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: We've seen everyone but in New Orleans. Who do you 462 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: think ultimately wins that division? Is still Tampa Bay Man. 463 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: I know everybody want to bury the I mean the 464 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: Browns when we want to play as our good football team, 465 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: key parts when we wanted to play And so for 466 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: them taking the ill to us does not surprise me 467 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: because again go back to the talent, but we have 468 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: learned this year what talent is not enough If it's 469 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: not matched with great effort, and that's consisting an effort. 470 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna still say Tampa Bay is a team 471 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: to beat in that division. And I'll stick with that 472 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: because the simple fact that they are the best team 473 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: in that division when they want to play, I would agree. 474 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: I'll say Tampa Bay with you, um Man. The Falcons, 475 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: they were right there. They let that game get away 476 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: from them on Sunday. I mean they would have been tied. 477 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: They would have been tied in the South and sounds 478 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: not great. And I think about the Panthers their a 479 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: game out, Well, it is what it is, what it is, 480 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: their game out. Yeah, I mean there's people who want 481 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: to do away with the divisions. Would you want to 482 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: ever do away with their divisions? You're a traditionalist, I'm 483 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to it because anyway you go, you're 484 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: gonna get a good I mean, that's the game, and 485 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: the brand of football being played is great. It's just 486 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: I like that. I like what from a parody standpoint, 487 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 1: what the division does because you have a situations. For man, 488 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: I dominate my division. I'm in the playoffs, you know 489 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: what I mean, I can't win outside of it. But 490 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: at least I dominate my division, and there's a couple 491 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: of good teams that are still over in the division 492 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: right now. And if that means I'd be I'd be 493 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 1: opposed it because you need to play Cincinnati every year, 494 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: you need to play the Ravens every year, and you 495 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: also need to play the Steelers every year. So you 496 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: might as well keep it in our case because that's 497 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: that's just rivalry that you don't want to get rid of. Buffalo, 498 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: Dallas or the New York Giants. Where does oo b 499 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: j end up? Dallas has to be Dallas, better conditions 500 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: won't be as harsh on a guy that's coming back 501 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: from an injury playing those confines. It has to be Dallas. 502 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: They're all uh, they're all synthetic turf, so I mean 503 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: that would have no difference in it. So I'm talking 504 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: about the indoor, braceless outdoor. Would you rather be twenty 505 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: thirty degree weather or seven times? He's not going to Buffalo, 506 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean he's not, he's not. I'd be shocked. I 507 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: would be flabbery, and he's going to Buffalo and knowing 508 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: what we know now, I mean we eat, we even 509 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: knew then, but we're not gonna say that here. No, 510 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: he ain't going to Buffalo. No, it ain't happening. I 511 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: see him going to Dallas. I agree with you. Jerry 512 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: Jones is enamored. And uh, I think he'll probably end 513 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: up a Dallas cowboy, and and and he'd be playing 514 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: with a very still a very good quarterback and Dak 515 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 1: Prescott and a really good shot right there in the 516 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: NFC East as well. Can the Jets go back to 517 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson this season outside of being an injury replacement? Uh? 518 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: Outside of that? No, And you pretty much have drawing 519 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: a line now. Granted Sala has well, you know, we 520 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: do work on and put on getting back in there. 521 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: But that was weak. I mean saying that. I mean, 522 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: but don't say it because if I'm in the locker room, 523 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm impressed by the fact you benched him. Keep that 524 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: healthy morale and grant you don't want to be about 525 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: one guy being a fall. Guys, we just talked about 526 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: a wink police. In winks case, there was no merit 527 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: to it. In Wilson's case, there is mayor because one 528 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: you're acting like you're a petulant child. You messed up, 529 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: say it and guys respect that. I'll say this, I'm 530 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: not too sure about the Jets. I like Mike White. 531 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: I do like him as a quarterback. The only thing 532 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: is is that I still got to see, all right, 533 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: what's what's the true Jets right now? Because I think 534 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: he's a pretty decent quarterback. But you were playing the Bears, 535 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 1: and the Bears aren't that great anyway, and then they 536 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: had no justin fields, and then Trevor Simeon got hurt, 537 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: and then he wasn't hurt or who knows what was 538 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: going on. So I mean, the Bears were still playing 539 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: with an arm tied behind their back, and they're not 540 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: very great to begin with. So I was thinking, Man, Okay, 541 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: the Jets are well coached. There are a better football 542 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: team than we give them credit for. Very talented. Yeah, 543 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: good young football team. The Browns should have beat him, 544 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: You're right, And I wonder about that, by the way, too. 545 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,239 Speaker 1: You know, we talked about the difference between one and 546 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: one and oh and two and that type of thing, like, 547 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: what would they came in oh and one in that 548 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: football game? What would have happened? What would have happened 549 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: to the New York Jets if they start off O 550 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: and two. If the Brons win that game like they 551 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: like two thousand, three hundred or whatever the game the 552 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: name the number was of games that was there beforehand. 553 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: I often wonder that about the Jets. Robert Salo is 554 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: doing a great job that game. More reason believe what 555 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: he says, right, I mean, players, when a coach is 556 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: leading you to success, and what he says actually is 557 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: playing itself out and you see it and and it's 558 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: manifesting that gives him credit in the locker room, and 559 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: guy's gonna follow him. They lose that game slowly, but 560 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: surely Guy's gonna start tuning you out. And that was 561 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: a huge help to like man, coaches, Right, we are capable, 562 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: we can do this. Did you see what we just 563 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: did to the Browns? A game like? Yeah, you win 564 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: a game like that, guys are gonna play for you 565 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: in the fourth believe you, and the coach talks. People, listen, 566 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: who should have the biggest buyers bigger buyer's remorse right now? 567 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: The Broncos for giving Russell Wilson, don't answer yet. The 568 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: Broncos for giving Russell Wilson the contract or, the Cardinals 569 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: for extending Kyler Murray. Oh my gosh, this is an 570 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: incredible question because they're like equal. But I I'm gonna 571 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: actually go with because on one hand, you have arrogance 572 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: and elitism. You have arrogance and elitism. We got arrogance 573 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: and elitiism working, and then you got just flat out 574 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: me guys self centered. Which one is more Detrimentroncos? No, Actually, 575 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the with the I'm gonna go 576 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: with the Cardinals they bought damaged goods because now, obviously 577 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: here's the thing with the Cardinals. The Cardinals have a 578 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: head coach, a g M, and a quarterback all tied 579 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: to the hip and had the same agent. Well, but 580 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna be harder remedy that situation or the Broncos. 581 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: But Gerard, we're talking just about the quarterback. So I mean, 582 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 1: I get that all factors in, that's fair fine, But 583 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're just talking about quarterbacks, I'm just 584 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: going by quarterbacks. Remember Brady Quinn, And Brady Quinn wasn't 585 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: say he wasn't comparing himself to Russell Wilson. But Brady 586 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: Quinn had that same injury here in Cleveland that Russell 587 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: Wilson had and he said he was never able to 588 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: hold the football the same way. And you watch Russell 589 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: double clutch, and you watch some of those decisions being made, 590 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: and those players already don't trust them, and they're getting 591 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: texts from people. And I remember what you said before 592 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: the Browns game on Sunday. I knew that was from 593 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: the bottom of your heart. That means that you've been 594 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: talking to people. I thought for sure Richard Sherman was 595 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: just talking like you for a second. My goodness, gracious, 596 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: and I I look at I go, hey, I I 597 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: know that the story came out. Sierra had a birthday 598 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: party for us, and like half the team showed up, 599 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: and okay, well they're grown men. Do I have to 600 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: go to a birthday party for every single one of 601 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: my co workers? Yeah? I have to. Yes, it's a 602 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday, and nobody Monday night, Monday night, Rust 603 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: Wilson with a superstar wife is thorn a birthday party 604 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: and no one decides to show up. That speaks volumes, 605 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: that's some bow Callahan type stuff. That's I was about 606 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: to say, that's that's frat day. I'm us point now, 607 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: I might drop off if I got other things to do. 608 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: If I'm a family man or something like that, I 609 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: might have it. I might have other things I need 610 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: to do do. I really need to sit there, and 611 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what a Russell Wilson birthday party is 612 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: gonna be. Like great food, You gonna do anything? No, 613 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get any of that. Russell Wilson is 614 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: gonna give you hot dogs, and you guys are gonna 615 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: serve pin the tail and play pin the tail on 616 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: the donkey. You know it and I know it. He's 617 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: a bit weird to have a birthday party. But Conner's 618 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: even nod in his head. Yes he knows it's true. 619 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: But I'm still gonna go with Russell's issue can be 620 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: remedy quicker than Kylier's, I think, because Kyler seems to 621 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: be one of immaturity and Russell's is okay. I need 622 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 1: to wake up and realize that my stuff do stink 623 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: if if I don't see it now, when will I 624 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: see it? Which coach will be more successful than New 625 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: School Real Quick? Matt Role in Nebraska, Luke Fickle at Wisconsin. Oh, 626 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: that's a hell of a question. I'm gonna Wisconsin. I'm 627 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: gonna say Luke Figle Wisconsin simply well, of course, because 628 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: he's familiar with the whole landscape now caused football ruled 629 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: and have to go through the n I L piece 630 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: and explaining that now, granted he was a major success 631 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: of Baylor, but he doesn't looke. And on top of that, 632 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: where is Nebraska getting players from California? Players don't go there? 633 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: No more. Texas players don't really go there, no more so. 634 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: But Wisconsin can get guys from Ohio because Luke has 635 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: relationships and the words of Bobby Night, they still parked 636 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: at angle In in Lincoln, Nebraska. That's funny. That's an 637 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 1: old start. It's an old man joke right there. Your 638 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: daddy's will tell you that one Gerard knows it drownyere 639 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: old enough to know anyway, Brown's fans be sure to 640 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: stop by the free Twisted tetail Gate pregame party prior 641 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: to every home game Twisted tetail Gate. 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Brown's taken on the Houston Texans 661 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: Sunday at one and on the call, Well, g Rodde 662 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: Cherry will be on the sideline, but on the call 663 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: on the booth Jim Donovan, and he joins us right now. Jim, 664 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us tonight, Hi guys, goood to be 665 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: with you. Jim, first, thanks for your thoughts on that 666 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: big win over Tom Brady and Tampa Bay. You know, 667 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: I thought it was absolutely thrilling. It really was, and 668 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: it came at a very very good time because I 669 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: think everybody's chin was kind of scraping on the ground, 670 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: whether you were a fan of the Browns or a 671 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: Bronze player, because things had really deteriorated. And I thought 672 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: that the script, um, you know, throughout the afternoon on 673 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: Sunday was following that same pattern of early score, then 674 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: offense goes silent. But there was a little bit of 675 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: a difference here, maybe a big difference, and the defense 676 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: was playing so well and I kept them in the game, 677 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: and then finally that thrilling end. I mean, it really was. 678 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: And I would really really happy for Jacoby Brissette for 679 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: the way he played on Sunday, but really in total, 680 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: for the way he played and the way he carried 681 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: himself in the eleven games that he was the Browns 682 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: starting quarterback. It was a job well done, and Jim, 683 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: I think about the call that you and Nathan they 684 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: describing what took place with David and Joe cou and 685 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: a throw from Jacoby Pricette. Take us through the and 686 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: what were your thoughts that you were watching the play developed. Well, 687 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: of course it was fourth down and you know, you 688 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: right down to it, and um, you're you're saying to yourself, 689 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, this is it. It's one play here, and um, 690 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: it was so great when Chub got them down on 691 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: that big run to get them down in that position, 692 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: you know, to get to get first down near the 693 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: twelve yard line. But then the first three place really 694 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: didn't net much and so now you're down to it. Um, 695 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: when he fired the ball over the middle. Um, and 696 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: then Joker went up, it was just unbelievable. But to 697 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: give you the God's honest truth, I was it happened 698 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: so fast. Uh, and you want to get the call right? 699 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: I said to myself, Oh my god, that isn't Joker, 700 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: isn't it. But I rememberize uniforms and how guys wear 701 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 1: their uniform David wears a white towel off his belt, 702 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: and so when he went up in the air, UM, 703 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: I kind of locked in on that white towel and 704 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: realized it was him. So it was just an amazing catch, 705 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: you really was. Jim Donovan joining us here on the 706 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: show was a great catch and a great finish to 707 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: the football game. We look ahead to Houston and with 708 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson taking over, Now, what do you expect from him, 709 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 1: Jim in this first game and then over the next 710 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: five Well, Ken, I think that, uh. I First of all, 711 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: I think that there's a great level of excitement with 712 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: the Bronze players. And that's no slight on Jacoby Brissette 713 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: at all or the way he played, But I think 714 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: there was a natural excitement and I think it's been 715 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 1: building because, after all, Deshaun has been practicing the last 716 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: couple of weeks and kind of getting his share of 717 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: reps at practice, and I think the players, and this 718 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: goes back to even in the spring when he was 719 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: getting so many reps and even in early part of 720 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 1: training camp, they were excited about the possibilities for them 721 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: and for the entire offense and thus the entire team 722 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: because of the dynamic ability he has to make plays. Now, 723 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna see that in full 724 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: force and in full array on Sunday because of the autum, 725 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, the tremendous amount of time that's gone by 726 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: since he since he last played. But I think we 727 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: probably will see glimpses of it um. And the other 728 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: interesting thing will be how Kevin Stefanski and UH and 729 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson kind of marry each other's knowledge of the 730 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: offense and what they can do and what Stefanski can 731 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: call with the ability of Deshaun Watson. I think that's 732 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating as this thing plays out over these 733 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: last six weeks and it all begins on Sunday, But 734 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: I think everybody is really excited to see this finally 735 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: out on the field and not under a restriction like 736 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: it was in August and Uh that that preseason game 737 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: down in Jacksonville where he was only gonna play steven 738 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 1: or eight snops. I mean, this is full go now, 739 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: and Jim, I'm all reckon it saying I think the 740 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: first past will be similar what you saw against the 741 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. Something easy, something managuable, a confidence building route. 742 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: Would you be shocked as surprise about the gate? Kevin 743 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: Stefanski was like, let's go hit a home run. No, 744 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised at all. I really wouldn't that. 745 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: I can remember that first play down at Jacksonville, and 746 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: I look back on that pledge your ride, and I 747 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: think I've mentioned it to you a couple of times. 748 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: If if that ball, if he had only you know, 749 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: connected on that pass, you know, his night obviously, I 750 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: think might have gone a little bit smoother because it 751 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 1: all fell apart after that. I mean they lost their 752 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 1: center on the next play. You know, there were there 753 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,839 Speaker 1: was a false start, and you know it was really messy. Um. 754 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 1: But no, I wouldn't be surprised at all. UM, I 755 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: really wouldn't. Um, you know, let him, let him do it, 756 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: and let's see what we can do. You know, let's 757 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: send the Marie Cooper out there and see if they 758 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: can get that uh that combination working right away. UM. 759 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: I just really think, you Rode, that's gonna be really 760 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: enticing for Kevin Stefanski to really work with Deshaun Watson's 761 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: abilities and his talents and incorporate that into his offense. 762 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: It's just gonna be fun to watch Jim looking at 763 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: what the defense has done last week. I know that 764 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: it's been up and down and There's been a lot 765 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: of volleys there too. But you know, we had m 766 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: j Emerson on earlier. How impressive is he been to 767 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: you in this rookie campaign of his. You know, I 768 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: have to tell you Ken that game that he played 769 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Buccaneers. UM. You know, I can 770 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: never remember UH Brown's defensive back having that much business 771 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: during an afternoon against that kind of talent, with that 772 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: great talent of the quarterback, you know, going after him 773 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 1: throughout the day and how he responded. I've never seen 774 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: a quarterback do that for the bulk of the game 775 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: like he did. I might go back to like a 776 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: big game one time Frank Middifield of the famous Diton 777 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: and Minnifield. Brown's quarterbacks had a great game one time 778 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: in a big game against the Houston Oilers during the 779 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: Love You Blue years down there in Houston, Uh And 780 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: he made some great plays. But boy, I've been in 781 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,439 Speaker 1: with m j Emerson since that opening night in Jacksonville 782 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: when he stole the ball on an interception and took 783 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: it for a pick six, and I I just think 784 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: he he is really becoming a tremendous talent at quarterback. 785 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: UM and it really makes That pick of MJ in 786 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: the third round looked like one of the best picks 787 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Berry's made. Jim, we can't thank you enough for 788 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: the time. All the very best to you, and we'll 789 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: talk to you on Sunday morning. We will thanks a lot, guys. 790 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. Jim Donovan, the voice of your Cleveland Browns, 791 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: joining us on the hotline, getting you so for the 792 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: Browns and Texans coming up on Sunday afternoon. Coming up next, 793 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: we'll tell you what we're watching for and give you 794 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: a preview of the Kevin Stefanski Show coming up on 795 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 1: Thursday night. You're listening to the Cleveland Browns Preview Show 796 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,919 Speaker 1: on the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. When loser draw, 797 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: if you don't play the standard, there's corrections to be 798 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: made and there's things to be done that are gonna 799 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: benefit the team, and we're all trying to work to 800 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: those goals. This is the Cleveland Browns Preview Show. You're 801 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: listening to the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Here 802 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: are your hosts, Kim, Karmen and Geron Cherry. Thursday Night, 803 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: it's the Kevin Stefanski show all along the University Hospitals Cleveland. 804 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: Brown's radio network coach and Brown's wide receiver, Anthony Schwartz, 805 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: joins the show. Gerald Anthony Schwartz at n rown touchdown. 806 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: What do you think of that? Back on Sunday? I 807 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: thought that was something lovely. I thought that was a 808 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 1: confidence builder for him to finally get got a chance 809 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: to flix his muscles and show you that speed and 810 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: improve it for one the first time we saw that 811 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: play being run and that he kept it outside and 812 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: got to the touchdown. So props to him. And he 813 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: also made a play on special teams and caught up 814 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: Pill to play within the course of the game. So 815 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: very impressed with him. His efforts have gone unnoticed, but 816 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: I saw it. I I talk well, you know, I 817 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: know he's had a very tough go of things, and 818 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: you're hoping that over the final six games. You know, 819 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: things can be looked at in a in a different light. Um, 820 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: but if you can get him involved on offense, especially 821 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: with DeShawn Watson coming in, you know, we'll see what 822 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: we can. I think that a lot of a lot 823 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: of players I don't want to look at as well. 824 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 1: The Shawn's here and so now we'll take it seriously. 825 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 1: It's not that, but it is a chance to maybe 826 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: wipe the slate clean a little bit depending on what 827 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: what you've done over the first eleven games. Is there 828 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: a chance you could say that, Gerarde and try to 829 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: put something down that's really good and get wins here 830 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 1: over the final six games. Heck yeah, that's the whole point. 831 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: You always want to finish strong. You heard me say 832 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: this on multiple cages. They always remember your last four 833 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: and now the seventeen game season, they remember your last 834 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: five or maybe four and a half. You're right about that, 835 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: all right? What are we looking for in this game 836 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: coming up on Sunday? You're looking forward to this flat 837 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 1: out dominated team that wants to be put out their misery. 838 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: Do not give them hope, Do not give them a 839 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: thought an idea that they can compete with you. You 840 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: have to go there with the right mindset in intensity, 841 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: because if you don't, they're not going to quit. They 842 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,359 Speaker 1: will stick around, but you have to put them early 843 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 1: and often, and it's gonna be a whole game. Because 844 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: the Dolphins were up thirty to nothing by half last week, 845 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: about a half time mark, they fought back and got 846 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 1: it to fifteen at thirty. Well they but I know, 847 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 1: I mean, but they didn't. They didn't have to do 848 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: that because you say, you know what would cool the 849 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: thirty to nothing? They don't have to try to score points. 850 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: You're right about that. Defensively, what are you thinking about 851 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: here against this Houston football team, Kyle Allen? It looks 852 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: like we'll be going for the Houston Texans on some 853 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: If I'm a Texas why you even bother passing? Run 854 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 1: the ball? Can we stop the ball? Damnian Pearce a 855 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: really good one, really really good one. So the Browns 856 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: will have a little bit of work cut out for him. 857 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,360 Speaker 1: They should win this football game. It will be a 858 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: tight test as the Browns gets set to head on 859 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: down to Houston to take on the Texans. And we'll 860 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: be talking about it coming up on Sunday morning. You'll 861 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: get your next crack at everything coming up with a 862 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski show at seven o'clock on Thursday, Anthony Schwartz 863 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski will join the guys at seven o'clock Thursday, 864 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: and then at nine am. It all gets started on Sunday, 865 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: Browns Game Day, Gerade, Cherry and myself and love and 866 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: am Brown's Kickoff Show with myself, Andy Baskin and Thomas 867 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: palm Than At one pm, It's Kickoff Jim Donovan, Nathan 868 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: Zigura and Gerard Cherry from n RG Stadium in Houston. 869 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: Big thanks as always to Executive producer Jason Gibbs, Technical 870 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,479 Speaker 1: producer Meredith Kane, Associate producer Connor Lawrence. For Gerard Cherry, 871 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm Ken Carmen. Thank you for listening to the University 872 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. You've been listening to the 873 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Preview Show. Join us next week for more 874 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: behind the scenes Brown's News from Brea. We always look 875 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,879 Speaker 1: at each game is how do we win this game? 876 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: What does this game call for? This broadcast is a 877 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: copyright of the Cleveland Browns and the National Football League. 878 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: Any other use of this broadcast, descriptions, or accounts of 879 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: the game without the prior consent of the NFL is 880 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:56,320 Speaker 1: strictly prohibited. This is the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio Network.