Speaker 1: I'll that's all.
Speaker 2: That's okay, becaus no one.
Speaker 1: Here is.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to teen Beat. I'm Danielle Fischel, podcaster,
Speaker 2: TV director, celebrity ballroom contestant, mother of two, and as
Speaker 2: nostalgic forty year olds everywhere, We'll tell you to Pango
Speaker 2: Lawrence from the nineties TGIF Staple Boy Meets World. And
Speaker 2: thanks to that very program, my entire teenage existence from
Speaker 2: twelve to nineteen years old unfolded simultaneously in front of
Speaker 2: a live studio audience and millions of viewers at home.
Speaker 2: From my first kiss to my first haircut, everything was
Speaker 2: caught on camera. So now thirty years later, it's time
Speaker 2: to turn the tables on Team Beat. I will sit
Speaker 2: down with interesting people who have accomplished interesting things, hoping
Speaker 2: that a look into their untelevised upbringings will help us
Speaker 2: understand who they have become. Since their puberty wasn't written
Speaker 2: into a popular Friday night sitcom, the least they can
Speaker 2: do is share it with me. Now I gave you
Speaker 2: my childhood, it's time we hear yours. And this week,
Speaker 2: I'm sitting down with someone who has not only been
Speaker 2: open about how his upbringing shaped a thriving career in comedy,
Speaker 2: but he's now actively shaping my children's definition of funny,
Speaker 2: and frankly, there is nothing I can do about it.
Speaker 2: The New York native first burst onto the scene as
Speaker 2: Max Blum in the criminally underrated show Happy Endings, leading
Speaker 2: him to another high profile TV gig on seasons two
Speaker 2: and three of The Mindy Project. But he's most recognizable
Speaker 2: to my boys as Officer Wade Whipple, integral part of
Speaker 2: the Sonic Cinematic Universe and its spinoff series Knuckles, a
Speaker 2: project I know intimately thanks to a number of repeat
Speaker 2: viewings usually reserved for hair salons that only own one DVD.
Speaker 2: His new HBO comedy special and Intimate Evening with Adam
Speaker 2: Pally finds him with a guitar and a burning question
Speaker 2: why even do this in the first place, which maybe
Speaker 2: he'll be able to answer next year when he'll play
Speaker 2: music industry mogul Alan Klein in Sam Mendez's four film
Speaker 2: Cinematic Beatles Event. But underneath all that funny and all
Speaker 2: those cool guy credits, I have to think there's an
Speaker 2: awkward teenage East Coaster ready to share embarrassingly endearing stories.
Speaker 2: So welcome to this week's teen Beat, Adam Pally.
Speaker 3: Hi, that was such an amazing Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: And also I just as from being a friend of
Speaker 1: yours from us a decade. You know, I forget how
Speaker 1: traumatic you're up like you so casually read it. You're
Speaker 1: like my puberty was written into television show we all watch.
Speaker 3: It's like, but now sitting here talking to you as to.
Speaker 1: Like God, the fact that you are walking and talking
Speaker 1: and breathing and yeah and and a talented uh you know,
Speaker 1: force in its own self is truly like Macaulay Culkin
Speaker 1: level miracle. Wow.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you for that. I we are
Speaker 2: about ready to hit the season seven episode of Boy
Speaker 2: Meets World where I am fat and they write about
Speaker 2: it and oh my god, and it's I've been dreading
Speaker 2: it since we started podmets World because I remember everything
Speaker 2: about knowing that episode was coming, because you know, ore
Speaker 2: e people that will and I into the office and said,
Speaker 2: so obviously everyone can see you guys have gone fat,
Speaker 2: and so we're we we might obviously have to write
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: W was running Boy Meets World, Warne Michaels. It's a
Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein running Boy meets World.
Speaker 2: It's a yeah, little known fact. That's where Harvey got.
Speaker 1: A shine easiest Christ. That's like, that's like cut that.
Speaker 1: You don't hear that. I didn't hear that stuff on
Speaker 1: on Happy Ending.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's pretty crazy. And then and then
Speaker 2: the whole episode and the whole week it was just
Speaker 2: and then every week after that, I just kept like, oh, wow,
Speaker 2: like all these people that I work with, that I've
Speaker 2: worked with for seven years, that's how they think of me.
Speaker 2: That's how they see me. So anyway, I am dreading
Speaker 2: that one. But you know.
Speaker 3: That's that's an actor's you know.
Speaker 1: That's another thing about kid actors that doesn't get talked
Speaker 1: about enough is like the psychological acting is is a
Speaker 1: psychological you know, exercise and and you're going into your
Speaker 1: own mind, you know, to to work. And when children
Speaker 1: do it, like you're like, oh, this is what everyone
Speaker 1: thinks about me.
Speaker 3: You know, that's like an acting you know.
Speaker 1: Thing that you you a shoe as you get better
Speaker 1: and older, and like it's just so poisonous to have
Speaker 1: like a little kid being like reading, pretending and like
Speaker 1: going into the depths of their mind to do something
Speaker 1: for someone. It's just a real insidious I mean, and
Speaker 1: I'm not innocent of it. I mean, at every job
Speaker 1: I do, there's someone that plays my kid, you know.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, just hearing you talk about it now
Speaker 1: is wow, it's wild.
Speaker 2: It's pretty nuts. But thank you so much for chatting
Speaker 2: with me. I have to be honest, it's very comforting
Speaker 2: to hear your voice, considering it rings throughout my house NonStop. No,
Speaker 2: do not be so your husband.
Speaker 3: I apologize.
Speaker 2: I know, I know Jensen has texted you about this.
Speaker 2: But here is a list of the shows and movies
Speaker 2: my children watch on repeat that all coincidentally include you.
Speaker 2: And this is one hundred percent not a bit okay, Knuckles,
Speaker 2: Sonic one, two and three, Archibald's next big thing, the
Speaker 2: main Event, duc Tails, Firebuds, Randy Cunningham, ninth grade, Ninja
Speaker 2: Great American Baking Show, and is it cake? All of
Speaker 2: those you are everywhere everywhere we go that my kids
Speaker 2: are like, let's watch that, let's watch that, let's watch that.
Speaker 2: You are.
Speaker 1: I you know, I've that's very nice because I was
Speaker 1: the other day this first of all, this is so
Speaker 1: nice of you. Thank you so much, and thank your
Speaker 1: family and and like I was the other day. I
Speaker 1: saw someone on social media like put out like where
Speaker 1: to find like you know, it's a bigger star, you know.
Speaker 1: It's like, here's where you can find all my stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like, my here's my movie is
Speaker 1: streaming here, and my TV are streaming on this thing
Speaker 1: and here's there. And I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'd like to do that for my fans, and I
Speaker 1: realized I don't have there's like one thing left. So
Speaker 1: it's nice. It's nice to hear that, like your your
Speaker 1: children are watching, because I literally in my mind was
Speaker 1: like I don't think that shows even on a streaming service.
Speaker 2: I can't even see that one anywhere find that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's nice that at least it's playing somewhere.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's it's definitely playing. And I just I
Speaker 2: do wonder when you were studying Edgy improv at UCB
Speaker 2: in New York, did you ever think, like, man, I
Speaker 2: can't wait to be a four and a six year
Speaker 2: old's favorite actor.
Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't at all, And in fact, in fact, I
Speaker 1: think just knowing myself and where and who I am
Speaker 1: and when I when I was coming up and when
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, building finding my voice. I
Speaker 1: think if you would have told me that, then I
Speaker 1: would have really uh said no way and done and
Speaker 1: and worked hard to make sure that didn't.
Speaker 2: Happen, right, to push against it.
Speaker 1: To push against it. But as an older, you know,
Speaker 1: more complete person, children of my own, it's really it's
Speaker 1: really nice to hear anything at all, like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I have seasonal Award show depression.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you get that.
Speaker 2: No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I get seasonal Awards show depression, okay, which is like
Speaker 1: I think it's like sometimes when you're in Hollywood and
Speaker 1: you've been in in the like invited to the season.
Speaker 2: That's why I don't have it. I've never I don't
Speaker 2: get invited.
Speaker 1: Totally like you will and you should and you have probably,
Speaker 1: but I I, you know, earlier in my career, I
Speaker 1: was part of that you know season, and as my
Speaker 1: career has gone on, I moved to New York and
Speaker 1: I'm you know, don't things go up and down? I
Speaker 1: every year look at Seasonal like this time of year,
Speaker 1: at the award shows, and I get like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: seasonal Award show depression.
Speaker 2: I get.
Speaker 1: I'm like well, I'm not there anymore. I'm not involved.
Speaker 1: The truth is you are, like, it's not a club,
Speaker 1: it's just a it's like a moment, you know, Like,
Speaker 1: and so if you're working in the industry, you are involved,
Speaker 1: even if you're not sitting in that room. But I find,
Speaker 1: to be totally honest with you, it's very hard to
Speaker 1: be removed that like that, and so it really I
Speaker 1: would say that, like as a more complete person, it
Speaker 1: means so much and I am so I really truly,
Speaker 1: Like anytime you guys text me and you're like, we're
Speaker 1: watching it's the greatest.
Speaker 2: Well, I hope there's also the and maybe you've thought
Speaker 2: of it this way or maybe you haven't, and it's
Speaker 2: a nice way of reframing it too. But like, one
Speaker 2: of the incredible things about being someone in your shoes
Speaker 2: who has been in those rooms, been invited to those
Speaker 2: award shows is that it means you have left a
Speaker 2: legacy and are continuing to leave a legacy that all
Speaker 2: of the younger people or all of the people who
Speaker 2: are currently in those rooms have are partly there because
Speaker 2: of your work and because the ways you've inspired them.
Speaker 2: And you know, those are people who would say gosh,
Speaker 2: I got into this because of Adam Palely.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I was.
Speaker 1: I I've been trying to tell Jacob Elordi that about
Speaker 1: for like, I'm like, you're telling me that Frankenstein performance
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with my brother, right, No, I
Speaker 1: hear you completely, And I do think oftentimes like I
Speaker 1: think I'm fairly safe as far as in memoriam goes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I think.
Speaker 3: I'm fairly safe.
Speaker 1: Like I think I would get I think I would
Speaker 1: get it at the Emmys for sure. That's living.
Speaker 3: Emmys are a lock.
Speaker 2: Emmys are a lock.
Speaker 1: Golden globes, I think golden globes because of my TV work,
Speaker 1: Oscars like I have. Look, I've I've started a lot
Speaker 1: of movies. You know, they haven't they haven't culturally m m.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not Marty Supreme. But like, I think
Speaker 1: I would make the memorium in the Oscars. I think
Speaker 1: if I didn't, I think there would be some people
Speaker 1: would be like, that's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree with you. I would definitely not
Speaker 2: make the Oscars and I would only make.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: But it would say to Panga.
Speaker 1: No, Danielle, you're no, you're under You would get a
Speaker 1: stop beat. You would get a stop beat, you would
Speaker 1: get like a full like in the arms, and then
Speaker 1: it would slowly from and it would be a picture
Speaker 1: of that episode seven Seaside.
Speaker 2: So, like me, you had young parents, but unlike very young.
Speaker 2: How old were.
Speaker 1: They My mother was twenty two when she had me,
Speaker 1: and my father was twenty three.
Speaker 2: My parents were twenty three. Yeah, so I mean, can
Speaker 2: you believe that? Now? Literal kids, my parents were married
Speaker 2: at twenty one and had me at twenty three. It's
Speaker 2: the same crazy.
Speaker 1: It's wild too.
Speaker 3: My mom's not a round anymore.
Speaker 1: But my dad, Like, people see my dad and they're like, yeah, what,
Speaker 1: They're shocked, you know, And I'm like, yeah, he was
Speaker 1: twenty three when he had me child.
Speaker 2: I know my parents my parents are sixty seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my dad's sixty seven.
Speaker 1: I know. I know.
Speaker 3: It's weird. I'm like, my dad goes to hot yoga with.
Speaker 2: Me, right exactly. People are weird. That's your dad, that's weird.
Speaker 1: I know people, And like oftentimes people have seen him
Speaker 1: with my wife and been like, you know, asked if
Speaker 1: they're dating, especially Los Angeles. That used to happen mostly
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles because we lived like Pan Pacific Park,
Speaker 1: and so when I would shoot, you know, my dad
Speaker 1: was very helpful and he would come out for a
Speaker 1: couple weeks and like help take care of the kids
Speaker 1: early on, and he was like, no matter what, if
Speaker 1: I'm out with Daniella, someone will be like, oh, congratulations,
Speaker 1: and my wife will be like stop it now.
Speaker 2: When I was fifteen or sixteen years old, I took
Speaker 2: my dad to New York for the US Open because
Speaker 2: my dad's a huge tennis fan. Awesome, and so we
Speaker 2: it's you know, one of the perks of being a
Speaker 2: teen on a television show where you make good money
Speaker 2: is that you can give gifts like that.
Speaker 1: You're so self effacing, Danielle, you are culturally famous. I
Speaker 1: hate it's like you we can drop this charade, okay,
Speaker 1: Danielle's it is a charade. It is a sar Odd Carmichael.
Speaker 1: You're the name daniel Fichelle, like you said in the intro,
Speaker 1: like we know you, we know you. Oh, al is
Speaker 1: my Ficelle crime? People want to but I always thought
Speaker 1: it was also targe ish. Okay. I do like that
Speaker 1: because like a show biz.
Speaker 2: Put a flair on it. Thanks it does.
Speaker 1: Make me show biz, you were always famous.
Speaker 3: It's like, can't just be ficial.
Speaker 2: You can just call me to panga. It works. I
Speaker 2: answer to it. But I took my dad to New
Speaker 2: York for the US Open and we get to the
Speaker 2: hotel and the woman checking us in goes, hi, welcome, okay,
Speaker 2: oh I see here, we have two beds. I'll go
Speaker 2: ahead and change that to a king. And I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, no, no, no, no, no, we want we wanted
Speaker 2: the two beds. This this is my father. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: pretty mortified.
Speaker 1: I've also had it like my like my dad loves
Speaker 1: He didn't love it when we were young. When I
Speaker 1: was young and people like didn't respect him, he hated it.
Speaker 1: But now he like loves to go to premieres with
Speaker 1: me and have people be like, oh, your dad's so young.
Speaker 3: It's like he loves it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah that I mean. I also love it
Speaker 2: when people at this point still tell me I look young.
Speaker 2: I'm like, thank you. I'm at that age now where
Speaker 2: it's you need that validation.
Speaker 1: I don't wan't know what that's like the amount of
Speaker 1: age for like I I give off. The other day,
Speaker 1: I saw an actress who's doing a play and I
Speaker 1: really wanted to work with her, and so I email
Speaker 1: my agent and I was like, I would love to
Speaker 1: do this play. Is there is who's the male lead?
Speaker 1: I would love to do it? And they go, oh,
Speaker 1: they're looking at younger people. And I was like, she
Speaker 1: graduate We graduated college together.
Speaker 2: We're the same age.
Speaker 3: We're the same age.
Speaker 1: I was like, does a script call for is it
Speaker 1: like like a younger right? Right? No, same age?
Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, the people who should just go yes, Adam,
Speaker 2: I will make that call.
Speaker 1: They did make the call. They did make the call,
Speaker 1: and then I didn't hear anything. So I was like, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's coming on with that play? And they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're looking for a younger lead to balance out?
Speaker 3: Was a balance out?
Speaker 2: Well? Unlike my parents, your parents were lounge singers. What
Speaker 2: do you remember about them? Being an adorable husband and
Speaker 2: wife act?
Speaker 3: I remember, you know it.
Speaker 1: I remember it all feeling very similar to the way
Speaker 1: I was brought up after that, you know, so like
Speaker 1: if they were doing a gig in at like the
Speaker 1: Tamama in Pennsylvania, you know, on Friday morning, they I
Speaker 1: would miss school, which was.
Speaker 3: Like what like first grade, like give a.
Speaker 1: Shit, and we'd get in a Dodge ares and and
Speaker 1: drive up to the Tamament and in that car ride
Speaker 1: my parents would be singing and harmonizing and working out stuff.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, five six, like just being
Speaker 1: like watching, you know. And then we'd get to the
Speaker 1: place and they'd it would just be like later at night,
Speaker 1: and they'd a babysitter.
Speaker 3: Would come up from the hotel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they'd be in like a gown and
Speaker 1: a tuxedo and they'd leave, you know, and then they'd
Speaker 1: come back and and I'd see them in the morning
Speaker 1: and we'd have like a day at the hotel, you know,
Speaker 1: and then my dad and then my dad would leave
Speaker 1: because would play piano for like the buffet.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: It was just like very It was just very like
Speaker 1: matter of fact in that way. They were very workmen
Speaker 1: about it. And I think in a lot of ways
Speaker 1: like that, the the the like nose to the grindstone
Speaker 1: of show business that my parents it was is kind
Speaker 1: of was a good.
Speaker 4: Thing because I never thought that this was easy, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: It definitely that life doesn't give the impression that this
Speaker 4: is something just anyone can do at the drop of
Speaker 4: a hat.
Speaker 1: No, and they were also on the periphery. They were
Speaker 1: not fam like they weren't. Show business is not all
Speaker 1: the top, you know, there's like this mostly not it's
Speaker 1: mostly the bottom, you know, which is like a huge
Speaker 1: ecosystem of show business. And so for me, I guess
Speaker 1: I always just thought of show business as that it
Speaker 1: was like it was the same thing as being a
Speaker 1: doctor or which my dad ended up being, like a doctor,
Speaker 1: or a lawyer, or a baseball player is like fireman,
Speaker 1: you know. It was just that the business was was
Speaker 1: not far away in Hollywood. It was like right in
Speaker 1: front of you, and it was just about what you
Speaker 1: did to like earn money.
Speaker 2: And obviously, as you get older, this fact about the
Speaker 2: two of them becomes something anyone would like cherish and
Speaker 2: think back fondly on. But at the time, were you
Speaker 2: ever embarrassed by it? Did you? Was there ever any
Speaker 2: part of you that didn't like it?
Speaker 1: No? The only thing I didn't like, No, I was
Speaker 1: never like embarrassed. I always felt behind the eight ball
Speaker 1: a little bit because my parents were so weird, you know,
Speaker 1: like weird and singular, and you know, so like I remember,
Speaker 1: you know, we grew up in New York City for
Speaker 1: a little for most of my childhood, and then we
Speaker 1: moved to Chicago when my dad went in too medical
Speaker 1: school and we got to the suburbs, and like, I
Speaker 1: didn't know, like how to play hocky. I didn't know
Speaker 1: what hockey was, Like I had just and I knew
Speaker 1: New York had a hockey team, I guess, but like
Speaker 1: when they put the the stick down in the and
Speaker 1: the puck, I was like, didn't know what to do,
Speaker 1: and like got made fun of. And then and I
Speaker 1: feel like I was like, like I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of my adolescence was catching up
Speaker 1: because we moved around so much, and so much of
Speaker 1: my life was in the back of that car, and
Speaker 1: like you know so and we never had roots down,
Speaker 1: so it was like I feel like that's the only
Speaker 1: thing that I was ever kind of like upset with
Speaker 1: my parents. On the rest of it, I think I'm
Speaker 1: too shallow to think of.
Speaker 2: What was the car your parents had when you were
Speaker 2: a kid.
Speaker 1: It was a Dodge aries Dodgery, yeah, which had three
Speaker 1: a three banger in the front and a three banger
Speaker 1: in the back.
Speaker 2: I love a three banger in the front.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was great, sit up front next to your mom.
Speaker 3: Dad was the best.
Speaker 2: Oh so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love that my parents have a picture of driving
Speaker 2: me home from the hospital. This is years before car
Speaker 2: seats were mandatory. My mom's just in the front seat
Speaker 2: holding me, just in a blanket. That's how I went
Speaker 2: home from the hospital.
Speaker 1: Tons of pictures of me and my sister, like going
Speaker 1: across country with us just in the back seat with blankets.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: It's like, I hope this is kind.
Speaker 1: Of like an air bag.
Speaker 2: Did your parents ever try to dissuade you from life
Speaker 2: in the entertainment industry? Did you ever ask them if
Speaker 2: you could act as a kid?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if I think a lot of kids did
Speaker 1: do or did at the time, especially you know, we
Speaker 1: grew up at a time and you're you're you're part
Speaker 1: of it on the other end, but like, we grew
Speaker 1: up at a time where child actors were were mythologically
Speaker 1: canonized you and you know, people like Fred Savage or
Speaker 1: Cauli Culkin or.
Speaker 3: Uh Anna from.
Speaker 1: My Girl Chump.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who I did do? I spend six months on
Speaker 3: Broadway with as an adult, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like child acting was very attractive to kids.
Speaker 1: It's like if you if you had a sense of something,
Speaker 1: if you were precocious, if you were whatever, You're like,
Speaker 1: well I could.
Speaker 3: Be that, you know.
Speaker 1: So I I remember asking and then being like no, same, no,
Speaker 1: And I was like what do you mean, and they're like,
Speaker 1: if you want to be do something, then do it.
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to like drive you to an audition,
Speaker 1: right right, And I was like, okay, got it, and
Speaker 1: that was it. So then I think the honestly, like
Speaker 1: the rest of my life was like just being like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get in there somehow, I'm going to.
Speaker 2: Do it anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, look at you manifesting your entire life. You grew
Speaker 2: up with that, You grew up with two sisters. What
Speaker 2: was very young Adam Pally Like, did you get along
Speaker 2: with your sisters? How did you bond with them? As
Speaker 2: a teenage boy?
Speaker 1: We were all very close, the three of us were
Speaker 1: close because uh my because again, like my parents were
Speaker 1: so behind the eight ball. And when my dad finally
Speaker 1: was able to open up his practice, he had gone
Speaker 1: to medical school at thirty four with three kids and
Speaker 1: was like in major debt, and you know, it was
Speaker 1: just like everything they had when towards keeping not afloat,
Speaker 1: and so I'll the three of us again. It was
Speaker 1: like kind of being homeschooled in a way, like we
Speaker 1: went to school, but a lot of it was just
Speaker 1: like taking care of them, them taking care of you know.
Speaker 1: It was like everybody worked together just because.
Speaker 2: You just had to right the family. Everyone had to
Speaker 2: have a role. Yeah, everyone had to have a job
Speaker 2: in order to keep every day. Yeah, what were some
Speaker 2: of your roles like for me when I was on
Speaker 2: the show. No, people find it hard to believe, but
Speaker 2: my mom every single day I'd come home and she'd
Speaker 2: be like, all right, and I'd be like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: so tired from work in school, and she'd be like, great, well,
Speaker 2: we're about ready to have dinner. Go out there and
Speaker 2: clean up the dog poop, and like that was one
Speaker 2: of my chores. I had to go out, I absolutely
Speaker 2: and I every day before I went to work, I
Speaker 2: had to get up and make my bed, and I
Speaker 2: was involved in helping my mom make.
Speaker 1: Dinner every night.
Speaker 2: And like, I had things I had to do as
Speaker 2: a functioning member of the family even though I had
Speaker 2: a full time job. What were your rules in the
Speaker 2: family dynamic.
Speaker 3: Well as soon.
Speaker 1: I you know, I had to get them to school,
Speaker 1: your sisters early on. Okay, whether that was like coming
Speaker 1: in a car pool with me at first, because I
Speaker 1: would like get a carpool to the high school, and
Speaker 1: then I would ask if they could drop my sister
Speaker 1: off at the middle school.
Speaker 3: And then it was like.
Speaker 1: There was just you know, all of those little things
Speaker 1: like my sister has soccer practice. Then I would wait
Speaker 1: for my sister and then my mom would come get
Speaker 1: us both because she was working in the doctor's office.
Speaker 3: So it was like just.
Speaker 1: Being extremely in tune with your family every day about
Speaker 1: what what was needed and what.
Speaker 3: You were, what your responsibilities were.
Speaker 2: Did you guys have a big calendar? How did you
Speaker 2: keep it all straight?
Speaker 3: We didn't.
Speaker 1: We didn't. Things would get missed, things, It was, it
Speaker 1: was It was truly just like flying by.
Speaker 3: The seat of your parts.
Speaker 2: So much of your new HBO Special and Intimate Evening
Speaker 2: with Adam Pally involves lying if the things you're claiming
Speaker 2: in your act are true or false. Did you ever
Speaker 2: get caught lying as a kid?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Are you're caught lying all the time?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean I was just talking telling
Speaker 1: my wife a story about getting caught the other day,
Speaker 1: like we don't have you know, like when my kids
Speaker 1: get their report card, it gets like emailed to me yep,
Speaker 1: you know, so like I open it up and I'm
Speaker 1: like boom, I'm getting the response, like right then. But
Speaker 1: we had like things that would be mail to home,
Speaker 1: and so I would.
Speaker 2: Like beat try to beat your mom the.
Speaker 1: Mail and get the progress supports and the report cards,
Speaker 1: and then I'd stuff them, like an idiot behind my dresser.
Speaker 3: I should just thrown them out, stuff them behind my dresser. Dresser.
Speaker 1: And then at like sixteen, my parents moved houses and
Speaker 1: we moved the dresser, and like years of report cards
Speaker 1: and progress reports were like in the back and they
Speaker 1: were like really bad, like you know, like Adam's having
Speaker 1: trouble reading, Adam's having trouble focusing. And my parents were
Speaker 1: just like, we could have helped you.
Speaker 2: You could have brought this to our attention.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was embarrassed. I didn't want to deal with it.
Speaker 1: I was doing O this.
Speaker 3: I was honestly like school. I was doing other things.
Speaker 1: Like school was like yeah, school was like a social
Speaker 1: place that I went to set up all the other name.
Speaker 2: That's exactly how I thought about school until I went
Speaker 2: to college. I went to college late in life, but
Speaker 2: all growing up, school was a place to like see
Speaker 2: my friends, hang out, flirt with boys, pass notes, show
Speaker 2: off my clothes and shoes, check out other people's clothes
Speaker 2: and shoes. I was like, And then it was like this,
Speaker 2: how long are we gonna have to be in this
Speaker 2: classroom to learn something?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for me it was also like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: if I'm going to school today, then I'm doing this.
Speaker 3: It was like I'll see that person.
Speaker 1: Like I was like, not scheming, but I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I was just doing stuff all.
Speaker 3: I was always up to.
Speaker 1: Something, always had a band or or a comedy show
Speaker 1: or a video or a movie.
Speaker 3: It was like, you know, it was relentless.
Speaker 2: I love it. I love that you were a relentless schemer.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: When we pitched, we worked together on a show that
Speaker 2: we pitched to Disney Plus and in the meeting you
Speaker 2: told them you were in Manchester by the Sea.
Speaker 1: Of course. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, everyone believe they were like you were where. I
Speaker 2: missed that one. Yeah, it's one of my favorite things
Speaker 2: to be in a pitch meeting with someone who does
Speaker 2: shake things up. You and Jensen are both good at
Speaker 2: that because I am very just to the minding my
Speaker 2: p's and q's and just trying to meet.
Speaker 1: Those uncomfortable a pitch meeting, a general meeting. They're uncomfortable
Speaker 1: because it's like your whole life in your mind revolves
Speaker 1: around how you're being perceived. It's like an audition, and
Speaker 1: which is just it's impossible to get what you want
Speaker 1: out out of a power dynamic like that. So to
Speaker 1: try to find ways of just being like, well, how
Speaker 1: do I even the playing field here even though it's
Speaker 1: completely not even? And and I'm begging for I'm thirsty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm thirsty for a job, for your love and your money.
Speaker 2: Right exactly. Also, I think the thing I wish I
Speaker 2: had learned a lot sooner is that doing something, even
Speaker 2: just something simple like make a simple lie like being
Speaker 2: in Manchester by the seat, makes you more memorable, which
Speaker 2: is truthfully maybe seventy percent of getting a job. It's
Speaker 2: just like needing to stay on someone's radar for some reason.
Speaker 2: And so I love people who are able to do
Speaker 2: that because I'm not good at it.
Speaker 1: Oh no, come on, I'm I'm also I feel like
Speaker 1: it was a joke like they were. They were they
Speaker 1: were asked talking about my my acting career, and at
Speaker 1: that time, Manchester by the Sea had just swept everything,
Speaker 1: and I was making a joke that I was small,
Speaker 1: like you know, it was. It didn't it didn't harm anything,
Speaker 1: and and it it was the type of bit, especially
Speaker 1: when they started believing me. Yeah, and I kept going
Speaker 1: going with it, yeah, which is like, that's that's good
Speaker 1: to me. That's good, that's good, you know. Uh, But
Speaker 1: I I was not in Manchester.
Speaker 2: We don't have to tell anybody that. I'm willing to
Speaker 2: let people believe it. You know. Your podcast now is
Speaker 2: on the SmartLess network, Staying Alive. You and your friend
Speaker 2: John Gabri talk to experts about health and fitness, claiming
Speaker 2: you to have been basically damaging your bodies for a
Speaker 2: decade now. But as a kid, were you into sports
Speaker 2: at all? I know you said you didn't know how
Speaker 2: to play hockey, you were always behind the eight ball.
Speaker 2: Were you athletic? Did you? Were you into the sports.
Speaker 1: I'm athletic because I'm a good mimic, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, I'm athletic because I can pick up
Speaker 1: things fairly quickly. Yeah, so I can make things, not
Speaker 1: like it doesn't look like I've never done it before.
Speaker 1: I like to play basketball, and I'm decent at it.
Speaker 1: I played some sports in high school because I was
Speaker 1: trying to find where I fit in, fit in. I'm
Speaker 1: not like a skilled athlete, but I'm one of those
Speaker 1: guys like jack of all, jack of all trades, master
Speaker 1: of non like I can do them all and make
Speaker 1: it look decent, but I'm certainly not like very good
Speaker 1: though I am. Basketball was say a basketball, I'm good
Speaker 1: at good at Yeah, I like I can play, I can.
Speaker 2: Ball, I can I know ball and I can.
Speaker 1: Play it and I I have I have scored on
Speaker 1: Stephen Curry.
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, that's that's pretty great. Not may no, like
Speaker 2: legit like I scored a point because you two work together, right, We.
Speaker 1: Worked together on a TV show and in the TV show,
Speaker 1: we're supposed to play one on one and it got
Speaker 1: a little you know, like intense, not intense, but like
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I was like, come on,
Speaker 1: don't don't like. I was like, let's play, let's play,
Speaker 1: And so we started playing and then I scored, and
Speaker 1: then that was the last time I touched the ball,
Speaker 1: He's like never, And then he took it really seriously
Speaker 1: and it ended in like thirty seconds after that, okay,
Speaker 1: and he hit like twelve shots in a row and
Speaker 1: and and really like wouldn't look at me.
Speaker 2: I was so mad.
Speaker 1: It was just it was just like the difference between
Speaker 1: a certified bona fide killer and you know, a flabby Josh.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I get it you. I've been taking
Speaker 2: it too easy on you.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yes, that's exactly what it was.
Speaker 2: Like the most important question I can ask you. Did
Speaker 2: you have a bar Mitzvah theme?
Speaker 1: I did?
Speaker 2: What was it?
Speaker 3: It was music?
Speaker 2: Music? What kind of music were you into?
Speaker 1: You know, all sorts. There was like each table there's
Speaker 1: like a b C Boys stable, a Nirvana table, a
Speaker 1: Pearl Jam table, a sound Garden table.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Then like the parents were at like the Beatles table,
Speaker 1: the Rolling Stone stable, led Zeppelin table. Okay.
Speaker 3: So you know it was like grunge was like pretty
Speaker 3: big when I.
Speaker 2: Was being bar mitzvad Oh yeah, I remember.
Speaker 3: So that was and still is.
Speaker 1: I think probably like what I still probably listened to
Speaker 1: the most, I would.
Speaker 2: Say, Okay, grunge.
Speaker 3: I like grunge music.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't know why the the rock music
Speaker 1: from the nineties I really love, really love.
Speaker 2: There's something about nineties music when you grew up in
Speaker 2: the nineties that you can't shake it. Because I was
Speaker 2: a nineties hip hop and it's still my favorite. It's
Speaker 2: still my favorite.
Speaker 1: Like well, a nineties hip hop is particularly fun. It's
Speaker 1: like when you when you hear a nineties hip hop song,
Speaker 1: it's like your your your kind of start loosening up.
Speaker 2: Yes, I was home and I was home alone, which
Speaker 2: never happens as a wife and mother, and I was
Speaker 2: home alone for about an hour and the first thing
Speaker 2: I did I undecorated the Christmas tree while listening to
Speaker 2: nineties hip hop, and I was like, Yeah, this is
Speaker 2: exactly what I want to do with my alone.
Speaker 3: What's the nineties hip hop?
Speaker 1: Like? What like you're looking for like a Rex and Effects?
Speaker 2: It was Big Notorious, Big, You're you're like Ray Snoop
Speaker 2: dog Tupac.
Speaker 1: See, there's something about that nineties hip hop that, like,
Speaker 1: I don't even think of as a night like that
Speaker 1: to me was already the beginning of modern day. Like
Speaker 1: you put on a biggie record or a hip hop record,
Speaker 1: a Tupac record now and it sounds me now, but
Speaker 1: there's a difference to like that nineties hip hop that
Speaker 1: was like not that yet.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I know what you mean, like tone low
Speaker 2: tone loa uh huh yep.
Speaker 3: That I love. I really love that.
Speaker 1: And then there's also like the backpack nineties stuff that
Speaker 1: I became.
Speaker 2: Obsessed with, like tribe called Quest.
Speaker 1: Yeah tribe and Goodie Mob.
Speaker 2: Daala Soul, Dla Soul and all.
Speaker 1: That stuff that I think that was probably like my
Speaker 1: sixteen to seventeen years were like all all that stuff.
Speaker 2: You're very into men's wear these days, and I know
Speaker 2: one of the things we share a love for are
Speaker 2: vintage watches. Yes, were you a good dresser as a team?
Speaker 2: Did you have a watch? Then?
Speaker 1: I did have a Why I always wore a watch? Okay,
Speaker 1: I feel weird. Since I was a kid, I've always
Speaker 1: felt weird. If there's nothing like it feels like a
Speaker 1: risk needs something.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Why what do you wear?
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a seventies uh wide boy date just nice?
Speaker 1: What are you wearing?
Speaker 2: I'm wearing a I think sixties vintage Selini. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: on its original Look at the band. It's on the
Speaker 2: original band, and I need to I don't know if
Speaker 2: I should replace. It's like falling apart? Do I replace
Speaker 2: the band?
Speaker 1: Do you have the Is the clip matching it? Does
Speaker 1: the the buckle match the is a rolex buckle? No,
Speaker 1: then it doesn't matter yet.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it is a Rolex buckle. It is.
Speaker 3: Oh, then keep the buckle and get a new band.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, that's what I'll do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love see I like old The thing I
Speaker 1: like old watches is that they're so like like a
Speaker 1: lot of like this watch. I don't think this would
Speaker 1: be like something that people would like cove it in
Speaker 1: the watch.
Speaker 3: World or anything. Yeah, it's so simple, but.
Speaker 1: Like I.
Speaker 2: Look at how loose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean. Like that's my that's
Speaker 1: my jam. I like something that feels like it's been
Speaker 1: worn and it has character and no one else has it,
Speaker 1: and like that's that's what I like.
Speaker 2: It's kind of how I feel about this band that's
Speaker 2: falling apart. There's a part of me that like I
Speaker 2: wanted to I want it to look nicer, but also
Speaker 2: I feel weird getting rid of it. And this is
Speaker 2: take ticket.
Speaker 1: I want to buy a watch and be like, what
Speaker 1: do you think?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Okay, because they may be able to even like suture it.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, good point. So did you have style as
Speaker 2: a kid?
Speaker 1: I did I have? I had style.
Speaker 3: I always had style.
Speaker 1: I don't. I think it's because my parents, like again, like.
Speaker 3: I have their headshot. Do you want to see their
Speaker 3: head shots?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Please please? Oh my gosh, look at them. Your mom
Speaker 2: is a babe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom was little hotie.
Speaker 1: But so.
Speaker 2: Like they would get dressed like that was part of it, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like when we would when we would have a
Speaker 1: weekend at a hotel, Like there's a picture somewhere of
Speaker 1: like me and my sister's in like track like Neon
Speaker 1: green track like Sergio Tuccini track suits, and my dad
Speaker 1: in like a like a Giorgio Armani style kimono, and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm playing piano and my mom is draped over
Speaker 1: the piano in like a red sequence, dressed like fabulous
Speaker 1: Baker boys. So it's like, I think because of that,
Speaker 1: you see that all the time, You're like, oh well,
Speaker 1: if I'm like there's something about leaving the house, You're like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm outside the house, right, you know, I'm out of
Speaker 1: the house.
Speaker 3: I try to do it on at work too, because
Speaker 3: I don't know why.
Speaker 1: But Hollywood, it's like there's something about coming to work
Speaker 1: in Hollywood is like the more successful and and like
Speaker 1: richer and famous you are, the more you show up
Speaker 1: on set looking like absolute insane shit. Yes, yes, I
Speaker 1: truly like I have seen the most beautiful, handsome movie
Speaker 1: stars of our life show up to set at six
Speaker 1: in the morning looking like dog shit. Yeah. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: you can't even recognize them. That's Robert Downey, you know,
Speaker 1: and like and he's wearing like a maternity dress, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And you're like hospital gown with
Speaker 1: like yeah, and you're like and he's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just you know, I have to get I have to
Speaker 1: get in the costume anyway. And you're like, I get that,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's like I like finishing a
Speaker 1: long day of work, going back to my trailer, taking
Speaker 1: off whatever stupid costume I have it and getting into
Speaker 1: like my thing, and exiting that trailer with a sense
Speaker 1: of like I did it.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I don't feel that way in sweats.
Speaker 2: When I was an actor, I also would kind of
Speaker 2: go to work not not dressed cute. But now as
Speaker 2: a director, I find a lot of pride in like
Speaker 2: wearing a cool fit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I talk about it all the time with my director.
Speaker 1: I mean like, I feel like there was like this
Speaker 1: big thing in the early aughts where like if you
Speaker 1: were directing TV, you showed up in a in a
Speaker 1: puffer patagonia and and like faded jeans and and like
Speaker 1: white basic sneakers because you didn't want anyone, you didn't
Speaker 1: want to upset anyone. You didn't want anyone to be
Speaker 1: like you know, like oh who's this Yeah, look at
Speaker 1: that guy, Look at that guy. It's like every director
Speaker 1: just wanted to to come in be workmen. All the
Speaker 1: pictures from that era are like, you know, the Russo's
Speaker 1: and like fourteen or faces. It's like, you know, and
Speaker 1: that has changed. That is like completely changed. And now
Speaker 1: every set I go to is like cool the director, Yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone looks cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that. And for me, I do a
Speaker 2: lot of kids TeV and uh, wearing cool sneakers is
Speaker 2: a great icebreaker with a lot of young people, and
Speaker 2: so I make it a point I usually start when
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out what I'm gonna wear to
Speaker 2: work that day. I start with my sneakers. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what's the what are the sneakers I want to talk
Speaker 2: about today? And then I build the outfit.
Speaker 1: Around that truthly, because it's saving your life. When a
Speaker 1: kid is like I don't want to stand.
Speaker 2: There exactly, and I'm like, did you see how cool?
Speaker 1: Am? You're like look at well, look at these Jordan Ones.
Speaker 3: They're standing there.
Speaker 1: Maybe you can stand next to them. And the kid's like, cool,
Speaker 1: you got Jordan Ones.
Speaker 2: I'll do anything you say, ma'am.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2: Were you a good student? No?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no?
Speaker 2: What was your worst subject?
Speaker 3: All of them?
Speaker 2: Everything?
Speaker 3: I remember, like when.
Speaker 1: You know, I was always like charming and precocious and stuff.
Speaker 3: Did you guys have that? In California?
Speaker 2: Class rank No, I don't know what class rank is.
Speaker 1: Class rank is like maybe it's eco, but it's like
Speaker 1: if you go to a school with a lot of kids,
Speaker 1: and the high school I went to had like three hundred.
Speaker 3: Kids and in the class, which is a.
Speaker 1: Big amount, a rank came out of your GPA.
Speaker 2: Oh for everyone to see. Yeah, this feels illegal.
Speaker 1: It's not. And I remember being like that was my
Speaker 1: first real wake up call at like eighteen years old
Speaker 1: when that rank came out and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm incredibly dumb, incredibly dumb and people. I remember people
Speaker 1: being like, you're two seventy.
Speaker 2: Five out of three hundred, and I remember.
Speaker 1: Being like, no, that cannot be right, Like there's only
Speaker 1: twenty five kids with the worst grade percentage than me, right,
Speaker 1: and like really, and like those kids ended up dead
Speaker 1: and in jail, and like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: they were twenty five of them, but you know when
Speaker 1: you start getting to the backs, and it's like these
Speaker 1: kids are like driving camaros around like you know, the
Speaker 1: parking lot. Yeah, and I was one of them, if
Speaker 1: not worse. It was like a real wake up call
Speaker 1: that I had to get my shit together.
Speaker 2: I cannot believe that your principle was the same guy
Speaker 2: who ran Boy Meets World. I mean, I really feels
Speaker 2: this feels in crazy, Like why does everyone need to
Speaker 2: know the ranking of of everyone's GPA? Like what's the benefit?
Speaker 3: I mean, they all.
Speaker 1: They still have that right, like saluted Victorian Valedictori.
Speaker 2: Sure to highlight the best of the best.
Speaker 1: Right. Well, there's also when you're applying to colleges at
Speaker 1: the time was super like, you know, this is nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety eight, right, so it's like the only option you
Speaker 1: had was hopefully getting into a college. If you didn't
Speaker 1: get into a college, you're.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah, it's over. Yeah. I remember that pressure.
Speaker 2: I remember I didn't have it because for some reason,
Speaker 2: my parents didn't make a bigger deal about me going
Speaker 2: to college because I was still on Boy Meets World
Speaker 2: at the time, and I think we all just kind
Speaker 2: of assumed, well, that's what you're going to continue to do.
Speaker 2: You're going to try to you're just going to continue
Speaker 2: to be an actor. And like, no, they didn't say
Speaker 2: to me, like, what do you mean, you're not going
Speaker 2: to go to college. They were just like, yeah, you're
Speaker 2: not going to college. But I remember all around me
Speaker 2: Ben Savage had it.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It was like I got to study for the SATs
Speaker 2: and I got to get into college. All my friends
Speaker 2: were feeling it. If you did not know where you
Speaker 2: were going and go to college, life was just over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I remember so that same year, I took
Speaker 1: the ESATS, and the first time I took them, I
Speaker 1: got like an eight eighty.
Speaker 2: What is the it's out of twenty four hundred?
Speaker 1: Is that sixteen hundred? Yeah, I like barely got half.
Speaker 1: And I remember like my parents being like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: oh god, like the yeah, like the response was like
Speaker 1: like no one paid attention because I was always just
Speaker 1: being like, hey, here's my movie I made and like
Speaker 1: but then like I remember them being like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's not smart. He is something is not and like
Speaker 1: I couldn't do it. I still, I still, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's learning disabilities that are unchecked.
Speaker 3: Or like, you know, I never had like a real.
Speaker 1: Assessment, assessment because we moved around so much, so like
Speaker 1: you know, but like I any of those word problems
Speaker 1: like someone going fifteen miles but forget it, forget it,
Speaker 1: any math, any numbers, forget it. I have dysgraphia, so
Speaker 1: I I couldn't they couldn't read my writing for the.
Speaker 2: Essay, so they just gave me a zero's dysgraphia.
Speaker 3: Dysgraphia is like.
Speaker 1: Dyslexia.
Speaker 3: It's a form of dyslexia.
Speaker 1: Okay, I can't. I have dyslexia, Like, so you know
Speaker 1: what that is? You read things backwards? I also do
Speaker 1: that when I write.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, so writing you'll move letter, put letters in
Speaker 2: wrong places, yes, all.
Speaker 1: Like without no, you know, like without knowing, you're just
Speaker 1: doing it and I know what the word is, but
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 2: You know, hear other people don't necessarily know what the
Speaker 2: word is right right.
Speaker 3: And you can't read.
Speaker 1: It's also like super illegible. Like if I were to
Speaker 1: write an audio, I had to change my autograph because
Speaker 1: my signature is illegible and people were getting upset when
Speaker 1: they would like come up to me on the street.
Speaker 3: So now I have to do it in.
Speaker 2: Print, right, okay, and you just spell the whole thing out.
Speaker 1: I spelled Adam Hallie like it looks like a but
Speaker 1: I just can't do it because you know, I spell
Speaker 1: my name wrong all the time, incursive, Like it's just
Speaker 1: a thing, it's just a problem. It's just a a
Speaker 1: thing like my my oldest son has it as well,
Speaker 1: and a munch of my other stuff.
Speaker 3: But uh, it's like.
Speaker 1: So I remember like being like oh wow, like I'm
Speaker 1: I'm so dumb, like I can't do it. And so
Speaker 1: that's when people started like do you remember there was
Speaker 1: a test of like what are you gonna be when
Speaker 1: you grow up you remember that thing. It's like those
Speaker 1: were nightmares. They all came out like you know, janitorial
Speaker 1: or you know, truly like not even like mechanic, like
Speaker 1: I couldn't even do the math to mechanicize. Like they
Speaker 1: were like you're going to be cleaning floors like that's
Speaker 1: and I remember being like, holy shit, how am I
Speaker 1: so dumb? I'm so funny?
Speaker 2: Yeah going for me?
Speaker 1: How am I so dumb?
Speaker 3: But so yeah, no, I was. School is a nightmare
Speaker 3: for me.
Speaker 2: Was your dad, who we talked about earlier, having gone
Speaker 2: the normal trajectory of lounge singer to doctor, the normal
Speaker 2: path everyone takes, was he did you feel like your
Speaker 2: parents were disappointed in you?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Never, never, No.
Speaker 1: I mean probably the saving grace was my parents being
Speaker 1: who they are and who they were. It was like,
Speaker 1: you know, they're incredibly compassionate hippies who wanted to work
Speaker 1: in Hollywood. And I think, you know, for every time
Speaker 1: that someone was like, oh, your son's dumb, my mom
Speaker 1: was like, well, he's also pretty funny, you know, And
Speaker 1: it was like I think if I didn't have that,
Speaker 1: I would be like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: We talk about it a lot on Podmets World too,
Speaker 2: that thankfully there are, and it feels like it's in
Speaker 2: the conversation more regularly now that there are so many
Speaker 2: differ diferent types of intelligence and so many different things
Speaker 2: that you can be smart in and good at that
Speaker 2: this idea that you and I both grew up with,
Speaker 2: which is like, if you do not follow this formula
Speaker 2: of junior high, high school, high GPA, immediately into a
Speaker 2: four year college and figuring out what you want to do,
Speaker 2: you're going to have no future like that. Thankfully seems
Speaker 2: to have subsided a little bit, and and.
Speaker 3: We have Felicity Hoffman to think for that.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're right, Thank you, Felicity.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Lori Laughlin, William H.
Speaker 1: William Major really talk about misogynies like, I know, everyone's
Speaker 1: just like, well, Felicity obviously orchestrated that I was working.
Speaker 1: How could William H. Macy do it?
Speaker 3: He's a cop in Idaho.
Speaker 2: It's like, never him.
Speaker 3: Come on, you don't think William H.
Speaker 2: Macy was like because Massimo got out of it too.
Speaker 1: Well, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
Speaker 2: William H. Macy got the Fargo pass.
Speaker 1: William Macy, Massimo, they're all running free. Meanwhile, where's Shelley.
Speaker 1: Where's Shelley, Miss Cabbage?
Speaker 2: No one's talking about it.
Speaker 1: No one's talking about it anymore. Where's Shelley? You know?
Speaker 2: What has that been?
Speaker 1: Soft?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. We don't even have any leads. I think
Speaker 3: she's what's thrown.
Speaker 1: Over that boat?
Speaker 2: Do you think so?
Speaker 1: Of course they put it right on that boat. They
Speaker 1: were like, miss Misscavage, we have a meal.
Speaker 4: For you on the deck right, And she was like, oh,
Speaker 4: it's not dinner time, but I am hungry.
Speaker 1: I'm quite they haven't been feeding us. He walks upstairs.
Speaker 2: I mean, Natalie, would I you know that's another one, Natalie,
Speaker 2: would we just let that go? Just just gone?
Speaker 1: What's that called love story? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Like a like a possible like love triangle?
Speaker 1: Man, Hollywood is really they let it go. They let
Speaker 1: it fly.
Speaker 2: If you liked your work, if you're going to be
Speaker 2: in the in memorial, you can get away with a lot.
Speaker 1: You think.
Speaker 2: You think, what did you do for fun on weekends
Speaker 2: as a kid? Did you have like a hangout spot?
Speaker 1: Sure, but there was a place in a living when
Speaker 1: you know, my my teenage years were kind of like
Speaker 1: divided because I was a bit a loaner and because
Speaker 1: I was new to Jersey when we got there. Okay,
Speaker 1: and I met my high school girlfriend who was older
Speaker 1: than me and was like the hottest art student at
Speaker 1: the high school. I met her when I was fifteen
Speaker 1: in an art class and she was sixteen and we're married.
Speaker 2: Danielle was Daniella, So.
Speaker 1: My teenagers were like very you know, there's like it
Speaker 1: was like before I met her and then after I
Speaker 1: met her, because like after I met her, I was
Speaker 1: just like obsessed with her and then and then you know,
Speaker 1: she went to college and I went to Schouts was
Speaker 1: a four or five years where I got to like
Speaker 1: grow up. But like from from junior year, I was
Speaker 1: from my senior year or junior year where she was
Speaker 1: a senior.
Speaker 3: I was obsessed. I was like obsessed.
Speaker 1: I mean every weekend I would just go wherever she
Speaker 1: was going, wherever her friends were going.
Speaker 3: I would just like I was like a little.
Speaker 2: Was she equally as obsessed?
Speaker 1: You'd have to ask her that. I think. I think
Speaker 1: she thought it was cute that this younger younger and I.
Speaker 3: Was a loner. But I was also you know, I
Speaker 3: had this.
Speaker 1: Thing on, did you guys have morning announcements in high school.
Speaker 2: Of course, Jensen did the morning announcements, so so did I,
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 1: And I made it like a sketch comedy show, so
Speaker 1: did and those sketches then they were not good, but
Speaker 1: the you know, people started to like rally behind them.
Speaker 3: They put them on like public access.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And so I was like, you know, it wasn't like
Speaker 1: I was a.
Speaker 2: Loser, no, no, and everyone liked you. Like That's how
Speaker 2: everyone knew who Jensen Karp was in high school because
Speaker 2: everyone heard his voice every day.
Speaker 1: Exactly, so everyone knew who Adam was. But I wasn't
Speaker 1: like cool. Yeah, so I think she thought it was
Speaker 1: cute and then yeah, and then but we also were
Speaker 1: in an art class. We got along. It was like
Speaker 1: I wasn't just obsessed with how that she was like
Speaker 1: the hottest girl school. I was obsessed that, like like
Speaker 1: it finally someone like got me, you know, and like
Speaker 1: was artsy and yeah, you know all that. It was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is I'm totally comfortable here. I want to be here.
Speaker 1: And then it was like that was it?
Speaker 2: I love that? And so how old were you guys
Speaker 2: when you got married? You basically followed in your parents.
Speaker 1: We were a little older. Okay, we were twenty eight
Speaker 1: and twenty nine.
Speaker 2: Okay, but you had basically, you know, with the exception
Speaker 2: of college years where you were apart then for a
Speaker 2: little while, you can go where since you were fifteen, we.
Speaker 3: Were, we had.
Speaker 1: We had a five year break and then we both
Speaker 1: moved back to New York and I invited her to
Speaker 1: comedy show.
Speaker 3: And that sealed it.
Speaker 2: Fun first date, come see.
Speaker 1: My copy on a date.
Speaker 3: I was like, hey, you live here, I do comedy
Speaker 3: Come And then.
Speaker 2: It was like, did she bring a friend or she
Speaker 2: go alone?
Speaker 1: She went alone?
Speaker 2: Hmmm, good sign.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I feel like she knew, she knew
Speaker 1: and I knew where she was living, Like we talked,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, but yeah and then and yeah, so
Speaker 1: we we. I think I talk about in therapy one
Speaker 1: of the reasons that probably I recreated is my parents'
Speaker 1: marriage was so good and I'm sure they had problems
Speaker 1: that I didn't know about, but it was like to
Speaker 1: the kids, to the family, it was such a lovely
Speaker 1: place the house that you're like, oh, if I could
Speaker 1: find that that, I think that's what happened, Like that's
Speaker 1: what the what the goal of life is like. To
Speaker 1: be happy in the house every day.
Speaker 2: So smart. You have three kids now, yeah, which I
Speaker 2: think is one too many, but I agree, Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I agree.
Speaker 1: I did not want I actually don't want any of them,
Speaker 1: but I really well I did want them. I just
Speaker 1: didn't know they were happening when it happened. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: all three were surprises.
Speaker 2: My goodness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nightmare.
Speaker 2: You said your oldest. Do you see a lot of
Speaker 2: teenage Adam in your oldest? Is he He's.
Speaker 3: A better version of me.
Speaker 1: He's everything, he'sy, he does everything better with a sense
Speaker 1: of calm and a sense of like I had a
Speaker 1: desperation in me. I don't know if it's growing up
Speaker 1: in the city. I heard Timothy Shallowy talk about it
Speaker 1: recently when he was talking about like what the director
Speaker 1: with Safty asked of him from Marty Spiens, like tap
Speaker 1: into that kid riding the subway like singing. I was
Speaker 1: like that that is there's something about New York City
Speaker 1: when you grow up here that it makes you loud.
Speaker 1: It makes it's like you you know what it takes
Speaker 1: to be noticed right in a different way than and
Speaker 1: you live in the suburbs and you're one of a
Speaker 1: million people who have the same experience, Like everyone in New
Speaker 1: York is having a different experience, even the kids.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and so I think that that gave
Speaker 3: me a lot of like, h.
Speaker 2: Your oldest son. At least I know for sure, dress
Speaker 2: is real cool. Do all of your kids have style?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah they do. It's a bummer because I can't
Speaker 1: be I'll never be rich, but but it's cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, they're they're they you know, my wife is
Speaker 1: extremely stylish, and I feel like they they they also
Speaker 1: have grown up like it's all fun and games. And
Speaker 1: then I'll get a text from like my stylist who's
Speaker 1: like Cole send me a question about a suit he
Speaker 1: wants to wear too.
Speaker 3: Junior prom and I'm like he what he did?
Speaker 1: What? And then I have to go to the zoom
Speaker 1: and be like that cost seventeen hundred dollars what you
Speaker 1: just did?
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I love that. My kids. I wish
Speaker 2: they would let me dress them more, but they are
Speaker 2: starting six and four.
Speaker 1: You guys are such chic. I feel like you guys
Speaker 1: are chic.
Speaker 2: We are and we are cool. And I keep trying
Speaker 2: to tell Adler, I promise you I'm not buying you
Speaker 2: uncool shit. Yeah, I if I put something in front
Speaker 2: of you, it's because it's cool and I think you
Speaker 2: should wear it. And he just wants to wear the
Speaker 2: same John Cena sweatshirt every day.
Speaker 1: Grad that trust me, because there was a time. I
Speaker 1: mean I remember Cole was like wearing.
Speaker 3: The same.
Speaker 1: Formula one racer.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was like we got into we got into Formula
Speaker 1: one was a year. I don't even know, one year.
Speaker 1: It happened. And as soon as it happened, it was
Speaker 1: over blink of an eye.
Speaker 2: We bought all the sweatshirts, everything.
Speaker 3: It was over blink of an eye. They're all gone.
Speaker 1: It's like nothing stays, it'll it'll change.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about Paw Patrol. We had every
Speaker 2: single Paw Patrol item you could imagine, and then overnight
Speaker 2: they were like, that's for babies, and now what do
Speaker 2: I do with all this baby stuff?
Speaker 1: I used to have a really hard time with that
Speaker 1: because like do you have do you do you have
Speaker 1: like the app on your phone that like tell like
Speaker 1: shows you pictures from years past on that day. Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't time hoop that. I can't with time hot
Speaker 1: like and and it truly turns my wife into like, yeah,
Speaker 1: a perimenopauzzle puddle of just emotion that cannot be put
Speaker 1: back into a jar. And it'll happen. It'll have like
Speaker 1: we'll be sitting at lunch and she'll be like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, six years ago, Gigi got braces, and I'll
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I don't. I don't want to see it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see it. I don't want to
Speaker 1: look at that. All I see is like twenty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a tooth, right, But like I'm just seeing like
Speaker 1: could have had a car, could have had a watch,
Speaker 1: could have had a car, and like, but my wife
Speaker 1: is seeing like our lives, yeah, float through our hands,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: And it's so loaded, Yes, it's very loaded. My phone
Speaker 2: makes nice little collages for us set to set to
Speaker 2: sappy music, no way, and I'm getting a lot of
Speaker 2: them now because my boys are becoming more and more
Speaker 2: friends and they're like really enjoying spending time together.
Speaker 1: What's the age gap?
Speaker 2: Just two years?
Speaker 3: That's like my oldest and Cole and Gg are are
Speaker 3: well thirteen months.
Speaker 2: So my gosh, yeah, I told you.
Speaker 1: I did not want surprise.
Speaker 3: Literally surprise.
Speaker 1: We were like twenty nine and we had a baby,
Speaker 1: and then it was like is actors like, well you're
Speaker 1: you're free to go party, and so we're like great, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and my dad watched the baby, went to Vegas and
Speaker 1: then we came back and then we had another baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean thirteen months, you're pregnant for almost ten
Speaker 2: so like you had a sheeful.
Speaker 1: My wife was pregnant for three years. Yeah, truly, she's
Speaker 1: a queen. I'm so lucky.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You also that brings me to something else I'm contractually
Speaker 1: obligated to say before we end the podcast. Yeah, this
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Speaker 3: Cell phone coverage, and.
Speaker 2: How is the how is the cell phone coverage? Is
Speaker 2: it good? You love it?
Speaker 1: It's it's I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 4: It's spotty, full spotty, Okay, only for Sean.
Speaker 2: But is it reasonable?
Speaker 1: It's reasonable? Yeah, you know, it's totally reasonable. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and and and truly, if there's anything those guys need,
Speaker 1: it's disposable income.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. We should. What are we
Speaker 2: going to start? Let's start a business together. What do
Speaker 2: you want to start.
Speaker 1: Honestly, this is a conversation I feel like we would
Speaker 1: have had ten years ago at a Hollywood party where
Speaker 1: I would have like just come out of a bathroom
Speaker 1: and be like, yo, Dale, listen, hold on, Dane, listen
Speaker 1: real quick. What if we start a business specifically for
Speaker 1: the pets of Major League Relief pictures? Because think about it,
Speaker 1: they're traded all the time, they move, they move constantly.
Speaker 1: Who's taking care of their dogs?
Speaker 2: Who's taking care of those pets?
Speaker 1: And then it's like uber, Everything's like Oober.
Speaker 2: Always be closers. Let's say it.
Speaker 1: I mean a kid.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Adam, thank you so much for being
Speaker 2: here with me. I have thoroughly enjoyed our conversation, as
Speaker 2: I always do. I would love to find, you know,
Speaker 2: something for us to work on together again, because I mean,
Speaker 2: I love you guys. We have to. I still keep
Speaker 2: trying to reignite the Disney plus idea. I still think
Speaker 2: there's a place for it. It's only I'm just going
Speaker 2: to bring.
Speaker 1: You a script for a movie and then you'll just
Speaker 1: direct a movie.
Speaker 2: Let's just do that, okay, I mean that that's a
Speaker 2: more forward.
Speaker 3: Path, way easier, right, it's fine.
Speaker 2: So much easier write something great.
Speaker 1: Sorry, let's do a funny like parent.
Speaker 2: Can I also act in it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course I would. I would expect that.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's do it.
Speaker 1: That sounds like good. Yeah, all right, I'm going to
Speaker 1: start going through my my idea notebook.
Speaker 2: Yes, please do that'd be so fun. Adam, thank you
Speaker 2: so much for being here and keeping me laughing for
Speaker 2: the last hour. You are always a pleasure to talk to.
Speaker 2: And for those of you listening, we are not done
Speaker 2: with Adam yet. There will be a special bonus episode
Speaker 2: with Adam Paley airing this Friday, where we hear one
Speaker 2: of our listener's embarrassing stories and share a few more
Speaker 2: of our own. So to make sure you get that episode,
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Speaker 2: Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge of production Danielle Romo, producer
Speaker 2: and editor Tara Souboch. The theme song is by mar Coppus.
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