1 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: Hell though, And welcome to Savorit production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm Annie Reese and I'm more in Vogelbaum. And today 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: we have an episode for you about kumquats, which is 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: another topic that I knew, I think literally nothing about. 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: I had no idea what it was. Oh really, Oh gosh, 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: they're a favorite of mine. I love a kumquat. Uh well, 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: I love I love a citrus or a citrusy thing. 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: I suppose more on that later in general. Um, but no, 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: kumquats are oh gosh, every every winter I get really 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: excited about all of the weird citrus that you can find. Um, 11 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: all of the blood oranges and like carra cars and 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, and kumquats and they're just I love the 13 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: I love the kind of sour sweet and sour bite um. 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: And I love I love a citr zest Um. These 15 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: are one of my very favorite things to dress up 16 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: a very mediocre model of sparkling wine. You just like 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: have them and it's like instant sangaria. Yeah. I've never 18 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: cooked with them because I always every time I get 19 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: a package, I just eat them all whole or or 20 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: right or just like put them in sparkling water or 21 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: or wine or something so uh so, yeah, I've never 22 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: cooked with them, but doing all of this reading made 23 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: me really want to do that. Yeah, and you and 24 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: I were talking about this off, Mike, but I was 25 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 1: really intrigued by this idea that you could just eat 26 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: the skin like you can, oh yeah, eat it as is, 27 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: which I can often be quite lazy and if there's 28 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: peeling involved, and I'm out. Yeah, I'm not proud, Lauren, 29 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: but I am. I'm aware. I'm self aware. Now. I 30 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: went through I went through an anti peeling phase. I 31 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: feel you, I feel you. Yeah, I'm just that good 32 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: at it. I struggle with it for some reason. Um, 33 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: and then I get annoyed and I'm like, is this 34 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: even worth this? Uh So I think I'd really like 35 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: this that I can just eat as is? Yeah? Yeah, 36 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: oh I I love I love a citrus peel so 37 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: much that. Um, I mean like I'm not going around 38 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: like like taking like bites out of oranges as though 39 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: they're apples or something like that. Um. Actually don't eat 40 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: apples like that either. Anyway. I really dislike taking a 41 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: taking a bite out of a whole fruit. For some reason, 42 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: it really bothers me. But uh, like, if I have 43 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: a slice of citrus in um in a drink or 44 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: something especially like a lemon peel or something nice like 45 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: that that maybe like doesn't have all the pith on it, 46 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: I'll definitely eat that. I will definitely eat a piece 47 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: of peel really like citrus. I don't know what it's better. 48 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: It's better, That's that's what it is. Yes, I don't 49 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: know if you've ever seen it. I know I've told 50 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: you about it, but I have this post it no 51 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: on my phone where I just can't like every time 52 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: someone says this is a favorite of mine, I just 53 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: make a list and I have profiles of everybody food 54 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: profiles and there's a lot of citrus stuff wacky. I 55 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: mean it makes sense that is probably a thing that 56 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: I was also spoiled from growing up in South Florida. 57 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: So m hmm, yeah, yeah, where there are some common 58 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: quats to be had from what I understand, there are, indeed, yes, 59 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: and we will talk about that. But there was a 60 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: particular reason you wanted to discuss this topic now, right, 61 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, because the lunar New Year is approaching. 62 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: UM Tuesday, February one is the first day of that celebration, 63 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: and um, yeah, it's uh. We we have talked briefly 64 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: about kumquats in our prior episod owed about Lunar New 65 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: Year foods and traditions and uh yeah. So I was like, 66 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: I was like, what's a good thing that we could 67 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: talk about. And I was like, yes, kumquats. Are you 68 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: Are you going to do anything for Lunar New Year? 69 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: Are you gonna get some kum quotes? Oh goodness, I'm 70 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: certainly going to look for him. Um. I don't have 71 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: any specific plans, although I know a number of restaurants 72 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: in the area are doing uh like takeaway specials and 73 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: stuff like that. And so I'm I'm I'm right now, 74 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: I'm like a weighing my field of options. Um. We're 75 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: very lucky in Atlanta to have, um, a super diverse 76 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: group of food options. Um overwhelming, you might say, and 77 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: um and a great number of dumplings to be had. 78 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: And so yes, um, I'm getting a takeaway from some 79 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: somewhere near me and my friend her birthday is that day. Yeah, 80 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna hang out. We usual, we do dim some 81 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: but of course the pandemic is yeah. But but a 82 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 1: little bit of a kink in that plan. So we're 83 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: going to get some takeaway and hopefully be able to 84 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: capture some of it. But definitely the food will be good. 85 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: I'm confident in that. And I'm going to try to 86 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: find some ump cuts because she also likes the citrus. 87 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: So okay, all right, well, um, well see what you 88 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: can do. Report back. Oh I will and if I 89 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: find him first, I said this off Mike yesterday. I think, 90 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: but but but yeah, I like, if I find them first, 91 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: I will bring you some would be thrilled. It's gonna 92 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: be likem and you're gonna get a text like come 93 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: outside and get these kumquats right now, and I will 94 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: know questions asked. So that's why I'm the person in 95 00:05:51,040 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: a horror movie that probably wouldn't take it dark Alley. Sure, well, 96 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: I I look forward to kumquats whatever way they come 97 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: to me. But I also have something for you, so 98 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: we could do an exchange. Okay, alright, alright, alright, we 99 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: we will work it out. Um. We have priorly previously 100 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: done an episode about oranges that you can yes see 101 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: for a little bit more about all of this. Yes, 102 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: and our Lunar New Year the episode as stated, But okay, 103 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: I guess this brings us to question kumquats. What are they? Well, 104 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: the kumquat is a small citrus I'm gonna say, citrus 105 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: fruit um that you can eat whole uh, like a 106 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: like a table grape in a single bite. Um. They're 107 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: about the size and shape of a table grape. The 108 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: skin and pitt are very thin, and the seeds are 109 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: very small and soft. They tend towards a sweet tart 110 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: like a like a puckery candy, like a sour patch 111 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: kid sort of um, with a sweet tang and a 112 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: little bitterness from the skin to um. And yeah, you 113 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: get like a little bit of snap from the skin 114 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: and then this juicy burst from the fruit. Um. They're 115 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: like someone made a tangerine into a tiny snack. Mm hmmm, yeah, 116 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: I gotta try this, yes, yeah. Um. Frequently the varieties 117 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: that are sold in the United States have an almost 118 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: sweet skin and then a tartar fruit on the inside. 119 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: So it's a really it's kind of the opposite of 120 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: what you're expecting from citrus. It's super interesting. There are 121 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: several varieties um of small fruits that are called kumquats 122 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: that are sometimes classified into different species and have been 123 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: at some points classified into their own genus or genus. 124 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: Is Citrus is a genus unto itself? Um. The most 125 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: common alternative genus is Fortunello Yeah, which interestingly to me, 126 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: was not so named because of the kumquats symbolic tized 127 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: to good luck, but rather for a botanist whose surname 128 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: was fortune. Yeah. But but all of that classification stuff 129 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: is is really complicated botany that um that I am not. 130 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm not graded for. I started looking into it and 131 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I would have to google too 132 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: many words. This is this is not for me. Um. 133 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: A little bit more on that later, but at any rate, Basically, 134 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: kumquat plants are small, evergreen trees that will grow some 135 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: six to twelve feet in height that's about two to 136 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: four meters. They are more cold hardy than most citrus 137 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: and are generally grown from graphs instead of seeds. The 138 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: trees have these often glossy, pretty oval shaped green leaves 139 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: and put off white flowers that, if pollinated, will develop 140 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: into yes. These small, often oblong fruit about an inch 141 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: or too long about half is wide as that that's 142 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: like two and a half to five centimeters. Yeah. Um. 143 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: The skin and pulp are usually bright orange, but can 144 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: have a bit of a red blush to them too. 145 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: In parts of East and Southeast Asia, the trees are 146 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: grown um partially as ornamentals, planted near doorways or indoors 147 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: in pots or trays, sometimes artfully tended allah bonsai. Yeah, 148 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: and I thought of as symbols of luck or prosperity. 149 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: Um partially perhaps because the plants bear many fruits. I 150 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: think the fruit color and size play into it for 151 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: their similarity to golden coins, especially if you take like 152 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: a horizontal cross section. Yeah. Um. The name is a 153 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: pretty direct transliteration of one of the Cantonese names, which 154 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: is a combination of the words golden and orange. And 155 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: like other citrus, they tend to be winter fruiting, which 156 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: maybe why they are particularly associated with the lunar New 157 00:09:54,880 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: Year in those Northern Hemisphere areas that celebrate that holiday. Um. 158 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: When eaten for the New Year, I think that they're 159 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: mostly made into candies because you want thematically something sweet 160 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: not sour. Yeah yeah, okay makes sense. Yeah. In parts 161 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: of Europe, they're apparently a popular Christmas fruit question mark, 162 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: let me know, yes, let us know. I did see 163 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of this was a rabbit hole. I didn't 164 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: go down, but I did see of kind of candy 165 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: peels and candied citrus. And how kumquats got all tied 166 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: up into that game as well. Yeah, yeah, because you 167 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: could writ because you can candy them whole, which is 168 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: which is wild and fun um and anyway, okay, um right, yeah, 169 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: they can be used as you would use other citrus, 170 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: but you know, like whole um. For sweet dishes, you 171 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: can write candy the whole fruit, or chop it and 172 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: cook it into marmalade or jams, or bake it into 173 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: cakes or pastries, or just simmer them down into it 174 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: into a flavorful syrup. For savory dishes, you can chop 175 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: them into salads or salces or pull offs, so you 176 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: can use them in marinades, cook them down into sauces 177 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: or glazes, use them whole on kebabs or in roasts, 178 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: and and the in roasts thing that is that is 179 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: what I'm really interested. I'm like, what if you roast 180 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: a chicken and like in amongst I don't know, you're 181 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: like potatoes and carrots and whatever you have some kumquats. 182 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: M m, yeah, all right, I'm interested. I'm interested in 183 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: trying this all right. Um. Also you can use a 184 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: syrup or just pieces of the fruit to flavor drinks. 185 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: They make a pretty garnish um if you also have 186 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: never tried them in In American grocery stores, they tend 187 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: to be sold in little like clear plastic clam shells, 188 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: like a like raspberries or blackberries. Yeah, so, so look 189 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: from look from around the clam shell area maybe or 190 00:11:54,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: maybe the like exotic fruit area. Oh, I will what well, 191 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: what about the nutrition? Kumquats are pretty good for you. 192 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: Lots of fiber, great spread of micronutrients, your vitamins and minerals, 193 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: a punch of sugar, wee bit of protein, almost no 194 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: fat um, so they will help fill you up, but 195 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: to keep you going. Pair with the protein and a 196 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: little bit of fat, maybe like a like a handful 197 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: each of like cumquats and nuts would make a pretty 198 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: good snack. And it sounds lovely, right, lovely snack. Well, 199 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: we do have some numbers for you, a couple um, okay, So, 200 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 1: so kumquats are grown in places that have hot summers. 201 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: And cool winters. UM. In addition to parts of East 202 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: and Southeast Asia, places like California, Florida, Spain, Israel, South Africa, Argentina, Brazil. 203 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: They are considered one of the minor or like specialty 204 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: citrus crops and so tonnage isn't really widely recorded, but 205 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: together with other minor citrus crops like say pamela oos, 206 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: their thought to make up about ten of the global 207 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: production of citrus or did as of about the turn 208 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: of the century, which is twenty years ago. Now. Because 209 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: we're old, I guess, I guess, Lauren, and he is 210 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: like I could neither confirm nor deny. Um. There is 211 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: a Kumquat Festival every January in Dade City, Florida. Um. 212 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: If you happen to be if we get this out 213 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: on Friday and you happen to listen to it that 214 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: day and you happen to be in that area and 215 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable, Um, that's tomorrow, January two, from nine to five. Um. 216 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: There's hypothetically over two d vendors of foods and drinks 217 00:13:55,679 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: and crafts, plus a quilt challenge. Um. The theme for 218 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:08,599 Speaker 1: this year is Life is Sunsational. Yeah. Um, And a 219 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: car and truck show, which is very Dade County. Um 220 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: uh and yeah, the festival is in its twenty fifth year, 221 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: I believe, if I am mathing correctly, it is in 222 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: its twenty fifth year. Another festival to put on our list. 223 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: I mean, listeners, again, if you've ever been at these 224 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: festivals that we mentioned, we've got to hear about it 225 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: from it. I love it. There's a quilt challenge that 226 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: has to be a new one at these festivals we listed. 227 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm I don't think I've read about one before, but 228 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: now I'm like, there has to have been other quilt 229 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: competitions at some of these other things, and like also 230 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: like Dade County, Florida is not the place that I 231 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: would expect quilting to be really that big, but you know, 232 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: just huh yeah, yeah, I've kind of like come quilting 233 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: compu issue. Okay, I'm into it and at the very 234 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: least as good alliterations, so we'll take it. That's true. 235 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: We do love good alliteration here. Yes, well, we have 236 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: a pretty fascinating history on this one for you. We do. 237 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: When we're going to get into that as soon as 238 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: we get back from a quick break for a word 239 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: from our sponsors and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, 240 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: thank you. So records on kumquats are unfortunately pretty scarce. Yeah, 241 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: what we do know is that they probably originated in China, 242 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: possibly as far back as four thousand years ago, though 243 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: they first appeared in Chinese literature much later in eleven. 244 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: That's the first appearance that we know of. Anyway, it's 245 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: possible they were written about earlier and we just haven't 246 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: found that yet. Um. But this was a detailed treatise 247 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: on kumquats, which tickled me. Yeah. Yes, there's an even 248 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: a longer history in China of using citrus as a 249 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: tribute and kumquats got folded into that practice. But again 250 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: that seemed to have happened much later. Uh. They have 251 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: been cultivated in Japan for hundreds of years, though they 252 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: weren't mentioned in the written record of that country until 253 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: seventeen twelve. CE records suggests a new variety was imported 254 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: into Japan from China sometime in the eighteen nineties. In 255 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: sixteen forty six, a European writer wrote about hearing of 256 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: these fruits um being described to him by a Portuguese 257 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: missionary who spent twenty two years in China. Another of 258 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: the first known examples of kumquats in European literature popped 259 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: up in seventeen forty one. Swedish naturalist Carl Peter Tenberg 260 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: gave round kumquats the name Citrus japonica in seventeen eighty 261 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: four and went on to pubish more about them in 262 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: the following years. This is a part of that confusion 263 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: that you were alluding to, Lauren, around the bantanical name, 264 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: which we are going to talk about more. Um. Around 265 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: this time, several writers gave similar and some conflicting names 266 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: for kumquats. Uh. And yeah, just like we've talked about 267 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: a lot, people were using like names for other fruits 268 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: to describe this fruit, and it was just kind of 269 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: all mixed up. Um. But yes, However, horticulturists Robert fortune 270 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: Um often is credited with introducing kumquats to Europe in 271 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: eighteen six and this is where, yes, that Fortunella species 272 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: gets its name Um. He had been in China doing 273 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: some collecting of plants for the Royal Horticultural Society of London, 274 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: though the fruit wasn't well known in Europe. Um for 275 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: several more years after this introduction happened. From there, the 276 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: fruits made their way to North America by the eighteen eighties. 277 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: Um the trees were sometimes used for ornamental purposes as well. 278 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: I think that Florida was the first to receive kumquats 279 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: here in North America, and that was around five but 280 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: further varieties were introduced in both Florida and California in 281 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: the early nineteen teens. Cum Quats were included in the 282 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: citrus genus Um until nineteen fifteen when Dr Walter T. 283 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: Swingle put them in the fortune Alo genius Um, an 284 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: umbrella of six asiatic species. And yes, this is confusing 285 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: um for a lot of reasons. Yeah. Basically he was 286 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: arguing that kumquats are more botanically primitive than other citrus fruits, 287 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: and they're therefore and also have like small but important 288 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: differences in morphology, and so therefore should be their own genus. 289 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: But they're sometimes placed back in Citrus. Now it kind 290 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: of depends on who you ask. And again, I'm not 291 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: a botanist. I I don't I don't have of a 292 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: kumquat in this fight, so you don't what should I? 293 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: What are we doing here. I thought we agreed to 294 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: bring our kum quats and get this botanical fight. Now 295 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: it's just me out here. I'm sorry, It's okay, it's okay, yeah, 296 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: all right, Well next time, yeah, yeah, Well there will 297 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: be other kumquat fights. I'm sure perfect, yes. Uh. In St. Joseph, 298 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: Florida claimed the title of kumquat Capital, which I love. 299 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: Dr L. Tavit published a fairly detailed account of kum 300 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 1: quats in nineteen twelve in Europe, and in nineteen fourteen 301 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: he published another account of them in Algeria. So this 302 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: was another topic where they were sort of very specific 303 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: details about Japan, for instance, or Algeria or Florida specifically, 304 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: and it was kind of all over the place. Yeah, 305 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: and the and these different specific varieties and and yeah. 306 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: It's as as so often happens, um when a food 307 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: or or plant or anything is culturally important to not Europe. Um. 308 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: It's really difficult for us to find historical sources about 309 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 1: all of that, because, like most of what has been 310 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: written in English, doesn't only only started happening when these 311 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: European botanists discovered, um, whatever it is that the plant 312 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: is and so it can be. It can be real 313 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: interesting trying to track down history for for for for 314 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: these episodes. It can it can And as always, uh, 315 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: we love hearing from you listeners, and sometimes you'll send 316 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: us resources and we really really appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, 317 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: because it it is a fun hunt for information, but 318 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: it can be a frustrating one when you know, like 319 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: there has to be more out there. But because we're 320 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: in the United States and we are English based and 321 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: all these reasons, we can't find it. Yeah, we can't 322 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: find it or possibly didn't get recorded, which is also 323 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: a tragedy. Yes, yes, yes, we want to know all 324 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: there is about kum quotes and hopefully you and I 325 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: Lauren will have some in our future. Yes, yes, um 326 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: and happy Lunar New Year to all who celebrate. Yes, 327 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 1: but I guess that's what we have to say about 328 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: kum quots for now. It is. We do have some 329 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: listener mail for you, but first we've got one more 330 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: quick break for a word from our sponsors, and we're back. 331 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you, and we're back with ms. 332 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: Should have done like a sweet teart. Oh well well 333 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: next time, yes, next time. There's plenty more citrus in 334 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: the favor sea. Yes. Uh, Matthew wrote hello again and 335 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: apologies in advance. I'm going to actually you don't at me. 336 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: I just finished the Tepperware episode, and I'm pretty sure 337 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: the story Lauren mentioned at the end isn't actually sorry 338 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: a goose Bumps book. I'm pretty sure it's this Forever Where, 339 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: the first episode of an oddball little one season show 340 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: from called Erie, Indiana. I had been planning to send 341 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: an email about the show anyway, since this is the 342 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: only episode I still remember and any mention of Tupperware 343 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: parties is bound to conjure it up. Lauren is now 344 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: the only other act well human I've met. You've seen 345 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: it always nice to make weird connections with people. Oh 346 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: my goodness, you're so correct. I love it. I was 347 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: like reading this summary about it on IMDb the pictures. 348 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: I think there's a link on YouTube. I was so 349 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: happy to receive this information. Oh that's wonderful. I am 350 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: also completely delighted that my weird brain, uh, like I 351 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: can't remember my own phone number sometimes, but like apparently 352 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: I remember this episode of this like possibly Nickelodeon show. 353 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna have to actually and be again, I 354 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: and Annie you read about it more recently. Anyway, Um, 355 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: this like tween show right? Uh? Well cool, No, that's 356 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: that is delightful. Thank you, thank you for actually in me. Yes, 357 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: this was a good actually, Eliana wrote, I was listening 358 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: to the clothes episode this morning on my way to work, 359 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: and the whole time could only think of the one 360 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: use I've ever seen for whole clothes, the Jewish ritual 361 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: ceremony have the Law. Have the Law is the separation 362 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: between the holiness of the Sabbath and the regular nous 363 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: of the rest of the week. While probably most recognizable 364 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: for its special candle, it's also marked by the smell 365 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: of something pleasant to alleviate the sadness we feel when 366 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: the Sabbath ends. Clothes are a very common spice to use. 367 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: I looked up why, and it might just be because 368 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: they are fragrant and keep their fragrance for a long time. Additionally, um, 369 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: many have a custom of studying citron fruit with cloves 370 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: after the fruit is used for the holiday of sakkot Um. 371 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: And I think I'm saying I'm saying that the way 372 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: that I have heard it. But anyway, yes, apologies if 373 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 1: I'm mispronouncing. Um. I imagine this is also because they 374 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: pair nicely together and last a long time, as well 375 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: as to continue using an item from one commandment for another. 376 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: Since the quote is in the fall, I thought it 377 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: was interesting to hear about other clove fruit combinations for 378 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: other holidays. Yeah. I like that. Um. I like the 379 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: idea of kind of a candle with this very fragrant 380 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: smell to calm you down, I guess, or like separate 381 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: clothes to close you out, but in a nice way. Right. Yeah, yeah, 382 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. I have been doing that. 383 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: I know we've discussed candles in the past, but I 384 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: recently have come into a lot of nerd candles, okay, 385 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: and I've been I think on Sundays I will light 386 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: light one at night and I don't know, it's just nice. 387 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: Candles are flame is pretty uh you know centers? Yes, yes, 388 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: don't light anything up fire. I didn't mean to sound 389 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: like a pyro when I said that, So it's all good. 390 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: That's all good. Yes. Well, on that note, thanks to 391 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: both of these listeners for writing. 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