1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us. We've got a 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: very special guest for all of you. President Trump forty five, 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: soon to be forty seven, taped with us yesterday evening 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: because he is presently in court dealing with the ridiculous 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: trial that has been brought against him by Alvin Bragg, 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: Joe Biden and company. 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: So he's in a. 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: Courtroom right now, but he wanted to make sure he 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: could talk with all of you. We're going to play 11 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: right now half of the interview right off the top 12 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: of the show here, and then we're going to play 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: the second half of the interview in the third hour. 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: But President Trump wanted to make sure that he could 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: speak with all of you, and we talked to him 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: yesterday evening. It begins now, we were blown away by 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: the crowd that you had in Wildwood, New Jersey. A 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: guy I think you know, Mark Simone, said that he 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: thinks you can win New York your campaign, we know, 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: said Virginia and Minnesota are both competitive. Based on the 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: reaction you're getting in New York and New Jersey, do 22 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: you think you can make a run in that area. 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: In New York in particular. 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 3: Well, they say, we're in play. And the beautiful thing 25 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: about New York. You win New York, that takes their 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: cheating out of play because they won't be able to 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: will any state that they win by cheating will more 28 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 3: than make up for it with New York and New Jersey. 29 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: So we have great polls. We were one up in 30 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: New Jersey. We're very close to New York, you know, 31 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: outside of the actual city, which now is so bad 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 3: that I look, if I live here, I'm going to 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 3: vote for the Republican no matter who. And Trump is 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: sort of the good Republican. But you know, Lee's Eldon 35 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 3: is a great guy. He's solely supportive of us. He's 36 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: if he would have been running today instead of two 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: years ago, he would have picked up a ten point difference. 38 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: You know. 39 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: He he won close, but it would have been ten 40 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: points better. And I think New York is in play. 41 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: I think Virginia, I think that New Mexico and Minnesota. 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: I think there are a lot of states in play 43 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: that people aren't thinking about. They're so dissatisfied with the 44 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: worst president in the. 45 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 4: History of our country. 46 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 3: He's the worst Look, I don't have to convince you 47 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: people you know better than me. He's two of the 48 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: people that might know better than me. He is the 49 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: worst president in the history of our country. 50 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 5: Without there's no question, no question about that. I mean, 51 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 5: you were speaking about a great guy, Lee Zelden. A 52 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 5: lot of speculation right now, mister President, about who your 53 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 5: VP might be. Now, if you want to tell us 54 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 5: who it is now, we're not going to stop you. 55 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 5: But if you just maybe want to give us a 56 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 5: top three. 57 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: A top three, well I won't do three, but I 58 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 3: will say we have a lot of good people, and 59 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: you know, Lee will definitely be somewhere in here in 60 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: terms of the administration. 61 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: He's great. You know, he's a great lawyer too. 62 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 3: He's actually a very he was fantastic on the impeachment 63 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: hoax when he was a congressman. And he'll be coming 64 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 3: with me in some form anyway, at a high level. 65 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: But Tim, Tim Scott in play, JD. 66 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 5: Advance in play are these are all names, the names 67 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 5: that are being talked about sort. 68 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 4: Of like a lot of people are in play. 69 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: And I'm really a believer that you do it during 70 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: the convention, you know, you really do it during the convention. 71 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: I'm also, unfortunately a believer that historically vps I don't 72 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 3: think ever have helped. I think they can hurt a 73 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 3: little bit, but they haven't helped. It's you know, you 74 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 3: have one exciting day and then you're back to the 75 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: president is running. But you need somebody that can be 76 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: good just in case that that horrible, just in case. 77 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 4: You know, look, that's a big situation. You have to 78 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 4: go with it, but just. 79 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: In case, and you need somebody that can ideally help 80 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 3: you get the votes. But I will say the single 81 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: most important ingredient is will that person be a great president? 82 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 4: That's a very important thing. 83 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen some of the Christy Nome stories. 84 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: You might be the only person getting worse pressed than 85 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: you on the left right now with the dog shooting 86 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: story and then the Kim Jong un story, you met 87 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: Kim Jong un, I'm curious what that relationship is like. 88 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: Now does any of that story? Is she still in 89 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: the mix as a VP? Have you thought maybe she'd 90 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: make more sense in a cabinet? How do you analyze 91 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: stories like that as you go about making a choice. 92 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: Well, until this week, she was doing incredibly well, and 93 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: she got hit hard. And sometimes you do books and 94 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: you have some guy writing a book and you maybe 95 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 3: don't read it as carefully. You know, you have ghostwriters too. 96 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 3: They help you, and they in this case didn't help 97 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: too much. Now she's terrific. Look, she's been a supporter 98 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: of mine from day once. She did a great job 99 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: of governor as governor, and you know, you look at 100 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: South Dakota numbers, she's really done a great job. And 101 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: in some form, I mean, I think she's terrific. A 102 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: couple of rough stories, there's no question about it. And 103 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 3: when explained the dog story, you know, people hear that 104 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: and people from different parts of the country probably feel 105 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 3: a little bit differently. But that's a tough story. But 106 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 3: she's a terrific person. She'd uh, she had a bad 107 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 3: she had a bad week. 108 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 5: Well have if I can, if I can miss a president, 109 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 5: And we're speaking to number forty five, President Trump, and 110 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 5: as Clay said, future number forty seven, Uh, sir, this 111 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 5: so far, this Coen trial, I'm sorry, this New York 112 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 5: City trial where Michael Cohen testified. It would be hard 113 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 5: to think of something that is both more absurd and 114 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 5: more more outrageous than what they're doing to you in 115 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 5: New York, but it doesn't seem to be working. I 116 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 5: just wanted to give you the chance to address everyone 117 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 5: across the country. It seems like this is backfiring in 118 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 5: the Democrats faces of the Biden prosecution. 119 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: It's one of the most disgusting things that anybody's ever 120 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: seen in the history of our country. In terms of elections. 121 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 3: It's third world country. What they've done is weaponize the 122 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: DOJ the FBI, They've weaponized and you could see it 123 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 3: coming with these people. They are truly the ones. They 124 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 3: are bad for democracy. You know, they like to say 125 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: a threat to democracy. 126 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 4: They are a threat. 127 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: And part of it is that we have a president 128 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: that's totally you know, incompetent, but they are so bad 129 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: what they're doing with this this hoax. And you know, 130 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 3: I have a gag order where many very important parts. 131 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 4: Of it I'm not allowed because we have a totally 132 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: corrupt we have a corrupt judge and. 133 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: A conflicted judge. He's conflicted like no judge has ever 134 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: been before. And the mainstream media knows exactly what I'm saying, 135 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: but they try and keep it down to a minor roar. 136 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 3: No highly conflicted, and this is a case that should 137 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: have never been allowed. You know, Alvin Bragg, the DA, 138 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: who's a terrible DA. Crime is rampant, I mean violent 139 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: crime is all over the city at levels, I mean 140 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 3: levels that people have never seen before. And he's got 141 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 3: like twenty guys sitting in their assistant das over absolutely 142 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: what Jonathan Turley, what Andy McCarthy, what Mark Livin, all 143 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 3: your friends, what every one of them said, is not 144 00:06:58,600 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: a crime. 145 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: There's not a case. And I've been. 146 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: Sitting there for almost four weeks in this icebox, I 147 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: call it the icebox, and in front of a judge. 148 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: It's so highly conflicted. He should not be allowed to 149 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: be doing this trial. 150 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 4: And it's so bad for New York. 151 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: But I had two other cases too, I had Judge 152 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: Kaplan and Judge and Goren, and they should they should 153 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: not be allowed to even serve when you see what 154 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: they did. So I've been set up with bad judges. 155 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: It's so bad for New York. It's so horrible for 156 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: New York what's taking place. But this one is going 157 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: on and literally every scholar, every legal expert, and you guys, 158 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: but everybody has said that this is a case that 159 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: shouldn't happen. Alvin Bragg, you know, when he originally came 160 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 3: in said there's no way you have a case here. 161 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 4: He got angry. 162 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: And then when the election, you know, they could have 163 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: brought this case seven years ago. They could have brought 164 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: it seven years ago, but they chose to bring it 165 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 3: right in the middle of my campaign. Nobody's ever seen 166 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: anything like it. There's no crime. I mean Mark Levin 167 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: was doing last night his show is great, and he 168 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: was going, there is no crime, and he's giving you 169 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: fifteen reasons why it's terrible. 170 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: It's a terrible, terrible thing. 171 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: But when you look at McCarthy and Turley and Greg Jared, 172 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: who's fantastic, You look at all of these people and 173 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: they all say the same thing. It's I mean, I 174 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: haven't seen anybody that says it's even a case. 175 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 4: But I'm not allowed to speak. Can you believe I'm gagged? 176 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 4: They gave me a. 177 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: Gag order where I'm not allowed to speak about major 178 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: portions of the case. 179 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 2: Is this election already ribbed? 180 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: Sir? 181 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 5: Given what they're doing to you, Is it already rigged? 182 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 5: Because I don't see how we could say it's not well. 183 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: They're trying to rig it with this. This is their 184 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 3: new form. And remember I have a voice. So the 185 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 3: truth is my poll numbers you saw the New York 186 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: Times Paul today. My poll numbers are better than they 187 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: ever were, probably better than they would have been had, 188 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 3: you know, had this horrible hoax not taken place. And 189 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 3: it's not only here, it's you have Fani in Atlanta, 190 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: and you have Jack deranged Jack Smith. He's a deranged individual, 191 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: and he's got a problem in Florida because if you 192 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: watch and you look at these reports, they caught them 193 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 3: tampering with evidence, and he's got some I think he's 194 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: got some problems. 195 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 4: And he always has that problems. 196 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: You know, he goes too far and he gets himself 197 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: into trouble. But he's got big problems here. They caught 198 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: him tampering with evidence and worse, Clay. 199 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 5: Every time we interview Trump. We're gonna have more by 200 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 5: the way of our exclusive interview with Trump coming up 201 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 5: later on in the program. But every time, you know, 202 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 5: you ride on the Trump train, the Trump train pretty 203 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 5: much decides where it's going. 204 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 6: Right. 205 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 5: You can try to ask what the next stop is, 206 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 5: But when he wants to hit his subject he's going there. 207 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 5: He covered so much ground in just that ten minutes 208 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 5: or so. 209 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I jotted down three things that he said that 210 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: I thought were super interesting. Eight hundred and two A 211 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: two two eight A two U. He said they're up 212 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: by one in New Jersey. That again coming off of 213 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: the y Eldwood event that they did in New Jersey, 214 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: would be a seismic shock if he's competitive in New Jersey. 215 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: Also said that Virginia, New Mexico, Minnesota, and New York 216 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: the polls look good. He specifically said something that I 217 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: haven't heard, that lee Zelden is going to be a 218 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: part of his administration, which the former candidate who almost 219 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: who I think what lost by about five to Kathy 220 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: Hokeel in twenty two, and that he thinks that lee 221 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: Zelden would win the governorship if you were running in 222 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: twenty four on Christy Nome. That's a tough story. She 223 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: had a bad week. We all have bad weeks. That's 224 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: a tough story. In response to the dog thing, very 225 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: very funny. And I think that what he just told 226 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: you right there that his polls are better because of. 227 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: The court cases we got him. He said it. 228 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 5: I mean, we've been saying this is what we perceive 229 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 5: to be happening, but for him to come out and 230 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 5: confirm it, and I do think that how could you 231 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 5: not see that as what's going on here? You know, Clay, 232 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 5: if we were to roll the tape back maybe six 233 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 5: months even twelve months ago, well not twelve months and 234 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 5: I'm trying to think when when was the mar A 235 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 5: Lago raid? That was last August, right, so August of 236 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 5: twenty two, But certainly, you know, seven or eight months 237 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 5: ago we could have we would have been able to 238 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 5: say what is the Biden reelection campaign? And the strategy 239 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 5: very obviously as these indictments came down and after the 240 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 5: mar A Lago raid, the strategy very clearly was to 241 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 5: just slam Trump with all these criminal trials. There's no 242 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 5: way anyone can see what's going on right now and 243 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 5: think that that is to this point an effective strategy. 244 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 5: In fact, it looks like it's backfiring on them, which, 245 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 5: as I've said before, I think would be the ultimate 246 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 5: poetic justice. That the abuse of the system they're engaging 247 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 5: in is what in fact puts Trump back back in 248 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 5: the driver's seat. We do it, We have more of 249 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 5: that by the way, it's more content that you will 250 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 5: not have heard more of the exclusive Trump interview playing 251 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 5: that third hour. 252 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: Clay, is that right? 253 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 5: We're going to go into the third hour at the top, 254 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 5: so you got to stick around with us. We got 255 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 5: the other half of that interview coming up in a 256 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 5: little bit. It'll air for the first time of course 257 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 5: here on Clay and Buck. We're also going to take 258 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 5: some of your calls if there's anything that you know 259 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 5: you want to add to our discussion of where Trump is. 260 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 5: I got to say, for a guy who is in 261 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 5: a courtroom facing thirty four felony counts, I know they're 262 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 5: crap and it's absurd and everything. We all know that, 263 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 5: but he's in amazing spirits and I really, you know, 264 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 5: the guy's basically my dad's age, okay. And and when 265 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 5: I think about how much energy and resilience Trump is 266 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 5: bringing to this whole process, I don't want to say 267 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 5: it's superhuman, but it's definitely in the one one thousandth 268 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 5: of one percent. 269 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: Well, we talked to him, so right after he got 270 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: out of the courtroom yesterday. He can't talk with us 271 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: alive on the air because he's typically in courtrooms because 272 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: he's a proceeding, Isn't that insane? Yeah, he's sitting in 273 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: the courtroom right now, but he said, hey, I want 274 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: to make sure I talk to your audience. And so 275 00:12:58,240 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: I was glad we were able to make it happen. 276 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: But that's the reality. This is Trump after spending all 277 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: day in court yesterday in the middle of what is 278 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: this week four, Week five of the Alvin Bragg crazy 279 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: court case. So we'll continue to break it down what 280 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: stood out, Where are we and more. By the way, 281 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: as we roll through the Tuesday edition. 282 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 5: Here in the program, I've got some other analysis of 283 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 5: Trump that we're going to have to dive into. You 284 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 5: see Robert de Niro, he's I think. 285 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 2: He was on the View? Was it the View he 286 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: was on? Yeah? De Niro clays on the View a 287 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: little bit crazy. He's going a little bit there. Let 288 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 2: him on. They won't let me on. 289 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 5: That's well, that's for sure when you hear what's being said. 290 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 5: I don't understand how anyone in good conscience could even 291 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 5: air the kind of idiocy that the View does with 292 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,479 Speaker 5: some of these guests. But de Niro's, you know, analysis 293 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 5: of Trump, We're going to get into that coming up 294 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 5: here in a few moments, but since October seventh, the 295 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 5: attacks on Israel have increased with no end in sight. 296 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 5: In the last couple of days, Israeli's recognized their annual 297 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 5: Independence Day, but this year without the normal festivities that 298 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 5: go with it. For all the obvious reasons, many Israelis 299 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 5: are living with the harsh reality of terror every day. 300 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 5: The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, or the IFCJ, 301 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 5: is on the ground. They are now addressing all urgent 302 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 5: needs while praying for the best. The IFCJ is preparing 303 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 5: for the worst by packing emergency bomb shelter kits that 304 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 5: can be delivered immediately to those in desperate need. Your 305 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 5: donation today will help assemble and place these kits with 306 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 5: enough food and life saving emergency supplies for twenty people 307 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 5: huddled in a bomb shelter. The cost to put together 308 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 5: and distribute these kits is two hundred and ninety dollars each. 309 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 5: Your gift to the IFCJ will help save lives, and 310 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 5: thanks to a matching challenge gift from a generous IFCJ supporter, 311 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 5: your gift will double in impact. The number to call 312 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 5: to make your gift is eight eight eight four eight 313 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 5: eight IFCJ eight eight eight four eight eight IFCJ, or 314 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 5: go online to support IFCJ dot org. That's one word, 315 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 5: support IFCJ. 316 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,119 Speaker 7: Have fun with the guys on Sundays the Sunday Hang podcast. 317 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 7: It's silly, it's goofy, it's good times. Fight it in 318 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 7: the Clay and Fuck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app 319 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 7: or wherever you get your podcasts. 320 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back in hour number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 321 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you, but hanging out with us 322 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: for the first couple of hours. If that was you, 323 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: and we hope any of you it was the case. 324 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: You heard Donald Trump with us in the first hour. 325 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: Now you will hear the second part of our interview 326 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: with Donald Trump. He's in court right now during our show, 327 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: but he wanted to make sure that you all heard 328 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: from him, so we talked to him yesterday evening. This 329 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: is what it sounded like. I won't make you say it, 330 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: but I think you know Biden is behind this, not 331 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: Biden himself, because he's not smart enough for mentally competent 332 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: enough to be able to organize all of this anymore. 333 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: Which leads me into this. 334 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: You know, he's got guys having to help him walk 335 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: to the helicopter, as you well know, across the lawn 336 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: there he can't read off the teleprompter. You see all 337 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: the screw ups on a regular basis. Do you really 338 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be running against you? Do you think 339 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: he'll they'll let him debate you, or do you think 340 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna pull a bait and switch at the last minute. 341 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I personally don't think so. But I've been 342 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: saying that for a while. I personally don't think so. 343 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: But you know, you don't think he's gonna run. 344 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: You don't think he's gonna run, Not that they're not 345 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: gonna pull a bait and switch, but you don't think 346 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: he's able. 347 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 4: I think at some point he goes out. I think, 348 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 4: so what do I know? You know? I mean, I 349 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: can only. 350 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: Say that here he is, and he was never the 351 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: sharpest bulb in the room ever, and now he's It's 352 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: so dangerous for our country. You know, we're dealing with Putin, 353 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: We're dealing with President Siev China, Kim Jonglin. We're dealing 354 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: with these people that are one hundred percent there at 355 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 3: the top of their game, and they can't believe it. 356 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: And this, you know, could lead to Third World War. 357 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: This is we still have a little bit more than 358 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: five months to go. And actually, if you really look, 359 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: I guess September. Towards the end of September, Pennsylvania starts. 360 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 3: And so we're really talking about a lot less than that, 361 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 3: because we really have to think in terms of that 362 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: when they start. You know, in the old days would 363 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 3: have a one day election and would have paper ballots 364 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: and would have a lot of good things. Now we 365 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 3: have elections that start forty five days earlier than they're 366 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 3: opposed to, and they keep going. They keep going until 367 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 3: they get enough ballots. This is their form of cheating. 368 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: And I have a voice, so I'm able to talk 369 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 3: about it. And you know, it's been I mean, it's 370 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: never pleasant doing this. 371 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 4: But we have to. 372 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 3: These are fascists. But you know, if they have a 373 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 3: good congressman and they send him a subpoena, he might 374 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 3: as well resign because he doesn't have a chance of 375 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: explaining to people to vote for him anymore. So I 376 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 3: have such respect for the American public because they fed 377 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: them all this nonsense. It's just garbage. You take a 378 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: look at these what they've done. Well, look at this case. 379 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 3: Look at the way it's playing out. Again, not one 380 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: legal expert says they even have a case. There's not 381 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 3: even a crime. And it's a very sad day in America, 382 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: and it's a very sad for New York. But you 383 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 3: take a look at Atlanta with Fani and her lover Wade, 384 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 3: and you know that's a whole scam. And Jack Smith's 385 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 3: two cases as a whole scam. The whole thing was 386 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 3: done because they want to hit Biden's opponent, his political opponent, 387 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: to see if. 388 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 4: They can get him over the line. I don't think 389 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 4: it's going to work. 390 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: I tell you because you saw the crowd in New Jersey. 391 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: It may have been the largest crowd ever for a 392 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: not just in New Jersey. I mean it was well 393 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: over one hundred thousand people. We expected forty five thousand 394 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 3: we had. I mean you guys saw the crowd. Oh yeah, 395 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 3: I don't think you've ever seen a crowd like that. 396 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: At a political event. Yeah, it would be great honor. 397 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 5: In terms of fixing the country, saving the country story. 398 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 5: You mentioned some of the foreign challenges. I think, and 399 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 5: you know this as well better than anybody. If you're 400 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 5: looking at challenges for America right now, the wide open 401 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 5: Biden border is absolutely top of the list. People are outraged. 402 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 5: It's going to be eight million at least. I mean, 403 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 5: that's going to be the official number by the time 404 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 5: votes are being cast. Eight million of legals under Biden, 405 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 5: and who knows how many actually in the country. You've 406 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 5: talked about finishing the wall, and you've talked about deportations. 407 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 5: What can you tell us about the first ninety days 408 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 5: of a Trump forty seven presidency on those two issues. 409 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, it's not eight million. It's fifteen 410 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: million are already in the country, in my opinion, and 411 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 3: a lot of them come from prisons and jails. They 412 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: come from mental institutions, and I go a step beyond that, 413 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: from insane asylums. You got a lot of terrorists coming 414 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 3: into the country. Now we're gonna have to deport We're 415 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 3: gonna have a very large scale deportation operation, and nobody wants. 416 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 4: To do that. 417 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: We have no choice. It's not sustainable by any country. 418 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: There's no country that a thing like this is sustainable by. 419 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 4: You can't you can't have it. I mean, I look 420 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: at it. 421 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: I'm in New York right now, and you see what's 422 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: going on with people. They're taking up You don't have 423 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 3: the use of parks, you don't have the use of 424 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: schools and hospitals. It's the whole quality of life in 425 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 3: our country is changing because of this, and nobody can 426 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 3: say it's good politically now. Of course, what they're trying 427 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 3: to do is register people to vote, because that's another 428 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 3: form of cheating. Also, there are two big forms are 429 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 3: that they're new forms that they're adding into their arsenal 430 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: because they're bad at everything. Policy is no good. Look 431 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 3: at Afghanistan, that disaster, the most embarrassing day. 432 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 4: In the history of the country. Their policy is no good. 433 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 4: They want high ten. You know, if they won, taxes. 434 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 3: Are going to go up by four times, four times 435 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 3: for middle class but four times. And you know, they're 436 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 3: no good at policy. The only thing they're really good 437 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: at is cheating. And they have two new methods, and 438 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: one is the weaponization, which is what I'm putting up 439 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 3: with in others too. But I'm you know, I'm definitely 440 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: I'm the key, there's no question about it. And then 441 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 3: the other is having to do having to register voters 442 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: because they're taking these people who can't speak English, who 443 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 3: don't even know what this country is, and they're registering 444 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 3: them and trying to get them. 445 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 4: Out to vote. And I only am implore. 446 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: The Republicans to be tough because they don't play as 447 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 3: tough a game. 448 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, there's so. 449 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 3: Much better on policy, so much better on so many 450 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 3: but they're not better when it comes to this stuff. 451 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,719 Speaker 4: Fellas. It's a terrible thing, terrible. 452 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: You I know no New York City, Well you also 453 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: know the Ivy League. Well, because you're a graduate, you 454 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: got called an anti Semite, which is unbelievable considering your 455 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: daughter is Jewish and you got Jewish grandchildren. Joe Biden 456 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: said he ran for president because of Charlottesville, bought into 457 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: the very Fine people hoax. 458 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: When you see his. 459 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: Failure to stand up for Jewish people and for Israel's 460 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: right to defend itself, how sick does it make you 461 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: to your stomach? And also how weak is the media 462 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: to not remotely be holding him to the same standard 463 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: they do for all the country as they did for you. 464 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: For Charlottesville by itself. 465 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 4: That's true. 466 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: So he is the worst president we've ever had in 467 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 3: the history of our country. But He's the worst president 468 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: that Israel has ever had in the United States is 469 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 3: not even a contest. 470 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 4: He's a horror show. 471 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 3: And I'm the best president that Israel's ever had. I 472 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: mean what I've done for Israel between the Capital and 473 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: the Iran nuclear deal by the way, you know, let's 474 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 3: not forget about that. That could have been the best 475 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 3: of all. 476 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 4: But they didn't do anything with it. You know, they could. 477 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 4: They could have had a deal so fast with Iran. 478 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: I would have had a deal. 479 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 3: You know, Iran was broke when I was president. They 480 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: wanted to make a deal. Now Iran is a rich 481 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 3: country again. Iran has two hundred and fifty billion dollars 482 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: worth of cash because of the oil and because we 483 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 3: give him six billion dollars every time there's a hostage 484 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 3: trade to end up with six million dollars. We gave 485 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 3: them ten billion dollars for electricity to Iraq. 486 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 4: But they are rich. They have two hundred and fifty. 487 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 3: Billion dollars in cash right now. It's a tougher negotiation 488 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 3: by a factor of fifty. But I am the best 489 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 3: president ever ever for Israel by far. And he's the 490 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 3: worst president ever. And who would think it? 491 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: Who would think. 492 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 5: I think it not surprising to us given Biden's history 493 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 5: of failure on the foreign policy front, mister President. But 494 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 5: right in terms of you know, they've walked away from 495 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 5: the Biden economy, you're not hearing about that, you know, 496 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 5: Biden's economy anymore. Inflation still stubborn, people paying high prices. 497 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 5: Why did this happen under this president? And what are 498 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 5: you going to do to change things around when you win? 499 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: So when he came in, he stopped the oil, and 500 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: when he stopped you and now he's let it go 501 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 3: back to where I was, because. 502 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: Otherwise he would have you'd have oil. 503 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: It you'd be paying so much for gasoline that people 504 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 3: wouldn't even believe it. But already it's getting close to 505 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 3: four dollars, and in California it's over seven dollars. It's 506 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 3: creeping up very rapidly. But he stopped the oil and 507 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 3: that caused the inflation very simply. And we're going to 508 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: bring energy way down. Energy costs are going to be 509 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 3: way down, and places like New England where you have 510 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 3: the highest energy courses, New York, where you have the 511 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: highest energy costs in the whole country. By far, I'll 512 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: be able to cut their energy bill in half and quickly. 513 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 3: These people, that's what caused it, what they did with 514 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 3: his stupid energy policies. He also made other countries rich. 515 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 3: He made Russia so rich that they said. 516 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 4: Gee, whiz, I'm gonna go. 517 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: You know a combination of that in Afghanistan where Putin said, wow, 518 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to go and attack Ukraine. Now you know, 519 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 3: he had oil upt almost one hundred dollars a barrel. 520 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 3: When that happens, Putin makes his money from oil. They 521 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: became rich and they attacked, and that's what happened. It's 522 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 3: a sad thing, so sad to see what's happened to 523 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 3: our country in a period of three and a half years. 524 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 3: But we're gonna make it. We'll make it greater than 525 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 3: ever before. You watch the border. We had the strongest 526 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 3: border ever. I built five hundred and seventy one miles 527 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: of war. We're going to add another two hundred and 528 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: three weeks. It was all made, all fabricated. They sold 529 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: it for five cents on the dollar. The war was 530 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: all fabricated. I built much more wall than I said 531 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 3: I was going to build, but we did five hundred 532 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 3: and seventy one miles, we had the strongest border in history. 533 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: We had remained in Mexico. You couldn't come in yet 534 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 3: to say in Mexico, all of these things out the 535 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 3: window when this character came in. And look, he has 536 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: no clue what he's doing, but he is surrounded by 537 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 3: very smart fascists and the only thing they know how 538 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 3: to do is stay in power. That's about the only 539 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: thing they're good at. But we're going to beat him 540 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: big in five months. 541 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 2: Last question for you. 542 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: We know you're busy keep up the fight at the 543 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: trial because you know, I think you're adding more supporters 544 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: every single day. I think it's backfired on them. This 545 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: is a light question for you. I know you're a 546 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: huge sports fan. I don't know if you've got a 547 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: chance to see the Tom Brady roast that it aired 548 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: on Netflix or any of the segments. Robert Kraft, your 549 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: old friend, told Vladimir Putin that he wanted his NFL 550 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring back. Putin he says, stole it. Have 551 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: you ever been roasted like that? Are you surprised that 552 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, who I know you're a big fan of, 553 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: took it and would you ever want to do something 554 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: like that? 555 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 3: Well, I was roasted on Comedy Central and before I 556 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 3: was long before I was president, actually, and it was 557 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 3: not a pleasant evening. 558 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 4: I will tell you. They roasted me. They roasted the 559 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 4: hell out of me. But it's fun. 560 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 3: Look it was a good cause, that money went to charity. 561 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: A lot of good things happened. But no, I was roasted. 562 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 4: If you have a look at that one, you'll see 563 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 4: what a roast is all about. 564 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 5: But when Clay got roasted by the View recently, mister president, 565 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 5: I did know. 566 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 3: It happens on a daily basis. You know, I was 567 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 3: on Whoopies movie. She made a movie, a basketball movie. 568 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 3: So could you do the movie for me? 569 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 4: Could you do? Joy behar would she what she would 570 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: do for me? She'd do anything. 571 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 3: All of a sudden, I run for politics and they 572 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: pretend like, gee, we hate check out Whoopyes movie. I said, 573 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 3: take me out. 574 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: Of your movie. I did a big cameo in Whoopies movie. 575 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 4: You know it's You're. 576 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: Still the best part of Home Alone too. By the way, 577 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: So for those of. 578 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 4: Us that remember that's a good one. That was a 579 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 4: very good one. 580 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 5: Mister president, we know you got to go and you know, 581 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 5: defeat all the night and win a huge election and 582 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 5: make history again. 583 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 2: Clay and Buck here with you. Thank you so much, 584 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 2: really appreciate your time. 585 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: As always, well, I appreciate you guys. You do a 586 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 3: fantastic job. And we'll talk again soon. 587 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: There you go, Clay. 588 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 5: That was the second part of our exclusive interview with 589 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 5: President Trump. We covered a lot of ground, which is 590 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 5: one of the great things about sitting down with the 591 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 5: president is you can go on. You can go anywhere 592 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 5: in terms of the conversation. If there's no there's no, 593 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 5: oh the handlers haven't prepped him for that one, or oh, 594 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 5: without a prompter, he doesn't know what to say. You 595 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 5: talk to the guy about your favorite movie from the eighties. 596 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,719 Speaker 5: You can talk to him about rock bands. You can 597 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 5: talk to him about staring down Kim Jong un, actually 598 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 5: staring down Kim Jong un. So, yeah, there's a lot 599 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 5: that you could We covered there. I mean, for me, 600 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 5: the biggest the biggest takeaway from this part is, uh, 601 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 5: you know, he says he can't tell about Biden one 602 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 5: way or the other. I think it's gonna be Biden. 603 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 5: I thought that all along, but he admits that that's crazy. 604 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: Clay. 605 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 5: He says he's going to do major deportations. If he 606 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 5: sticks to that, that's going to be a heck of 607 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 5: a time in America. 608 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 2: No doubt. 609 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: And we've had Stephen Miller on this program a lot, 610 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: who would be probably charged with implementing that. He said, 611 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: still he doesn't think that Biden's going to be the nominee, 612 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: he said, I jotted down the quote. I think at 613 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: some point he goes out and then said, obviously what 614 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: I think is true. It's dangerous for our country that 615 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: Biden is in right now. We'll allow you guys to react. 616 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: Full interview will be posted at Clayanbuck dot com also 617 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: on the podcast. If you want to hear that entire 618 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: conversation with Trump, we encourage you to go check it 619 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: out Clayanbuck dot com. Also go subscribe to the Clay 620 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: and Buck podcast. Since nine to eleven, Tunnel, the Towers 621 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: Foundation's been committed to supporting our nation's first responders and veterans, 622 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: heroes who put their lives on the line for our 623 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: communities and our country. Heroes like US Army Major Jonathan Turnbull. 624 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: He sustained devastating injuries at the hands of an ISIS 625 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: suicide bomber, nearly lost his eyesight. Through twenty surgeries and 626 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: countless hours of rehab. They have helped him come back 627 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: to some extent. Tunnel the Towers paid off the mortgage, 628 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: gave him especially adapted smart home designed for his needs. 629 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: He moves around his home more easily. 630 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: Now. 631 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: His home also gives him hope. 632 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: With help from people like you, The foundation supports families 633 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: like the Turnbulls. Join Tunnel to Towers in supporting America's 634 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: heroes our nation. Severely injured veterans and first responders, Homeless veterans, 635 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: gold Star families, and the families of fallen first responders 636 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: join us in donating to this amazing foundation. You can 637 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: donate eleven dollars a month to Tunnel the Towers at 638 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: T two teed dot org. That's t the number two 639 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: teed dot org. Ninety five cents of every dollar goes 640 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: directly to their programs. 641 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 7: Twenty four on you podcast Clay and Buck covering all 642 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 7: things Election. Episodes drum Sundays at noon Eastern. Find it 643 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 7: on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 644 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 5: Welcome back into Clay and Buck here in studio with 645 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 5: us today. Nellie Bowles Gonna talk to us about her 646 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 5: new book, Morning After the Revolution, Dispatches from the Wrong 647 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 5: Side of History. She's here in studio with me. Clay 648 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 5: she is formerly a New York Times correspondent, so she 649 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 5: is a refugee from the communist camp and we have 650 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 5: much to discuss with her, and her book is actually 651 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 5: about this to some degree. 652 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: So let's start with it. 653 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 5: Oh and we want to talk about the Free Press 654 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 5: as well, which is the media company that you and 655 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 5: Barry Clay Weiss. 656 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: Yes, Barry Wise. 657 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 5: Has founded with her, and they're both you guys are 658 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 5: married and also founded this company together. It's doing very 659 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 5: very well, Nellie. Let's start with Morning After the Revolution. 660 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 5: So I did read the first there's two chapters. It 661 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 5: was fun because I got this. I got to sit 662 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 5: there and say so the New York Times is as 663 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 5: insane from the inside as me, an outsider who grew 664 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 5: up in New York City thinks it is. 665 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 8: Well, first of all, let me just say it's a 666 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 8: pleasure to be here, very nice to see you. I 667 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 8: don't think there are enough American flags around me in 668 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 8: this studio. 669 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: There are many American flags. 670 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 6: There need to be more. 671 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 8: There's some mall space that doesn't have an American flag 672 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 8: on it. 673 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. 674 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 8: So I wrote the book as really an insider in 675 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 8: prestige media. I think that what was going on at 676 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 8: the New York Times, which anyone from the outside can 677 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 8: obviously see what's happening inside, more or less, I think 678 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 8: what was going on there is also going on within NPR, 679 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 8: within half a dozen of the prestige media brands. And 680 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 8: it's basically a movement to say, don't report on anything 681 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 8: that isn't beneficial, specifically to the Democratic Party and to 682 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 8: our sort of politics of the day. And that's just 683 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 8: a really boring way to be a writer. Like, that's 684 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 8: not a way, it's not fun. 685 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 6: You can't be curious. And you're seeing now. 686 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 8: I don't know if you saw last week the editor 687 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 8: in chief of The New York Times came out and said, 688 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 8: in a major earth chattering statement, the New York Times 689 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 8: is not in the business of helping promote Joe Biden, 690 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 8: and we need to stop that sort of. 691 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 2: Advotation advocacy journal. And I think the fact that he. 692 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 8: Needed to say it is unbelievable, but it's amazing that 693 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 8: he needed to make the statement. It was, of course 694 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 8: controversial that he made it. But yeah, so it's a 695 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 8: book about the last few years, which I think we 696 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 8: all can see everyone went a little crazy and now 697 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 8: is starting to come to their senses. 698 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 5: Way, it's like she takes a little surveillance camera and 699 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 5: we get to know what it's like inside the writing 700 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 5: of the daily Communist Manifesto over in Times Square. 701 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: So, well, look, I'm a long time New York Times subscriber. 702 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: I subscribe to the Washington Post, I subscribe to the 703 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal. I read everything, as you have to 704 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: do when you're doing a show like this, to try 705 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: to familiarize yourself with all arguments. So I have a 706 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: couple of questions and I'm curious if you address them 707 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: in the book, And thanks for coming in studio with 708 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: us in New York where. 709 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 2: Buck is right now. 710 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: So one, is Trump in your mind a cause of this? 711 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: Or is he merely a symptom and he's not really 712 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: the cause? I'm curious how you would assess that. That's 713 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: second part of this, Yeah, second part of this, because 714 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer, and I think it's a 715 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,239 Speaker 1: great debate. Second part of this, how much of it 716 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: do you think is subscription based? In other words, instead 717 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: of having an advertiser business, which is you want as 718 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: many people as possible to read the paper. Now you're 719 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: basically selling to the diehards, which is a different business model. 720 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: Those are two questions. I don't know what your answer 721 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: would be, but I'm curious how you would assess them. 722 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 8: Those are both great questions I try to wrestle with 723 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 8: in the book. I think if you look at how 724 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 8: The New York Times is doing it a business, it's 725 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 8: doing great. Yeah, and that's because, as like you said, 726 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 8: as it pivoted from being an advertiser business, where Macy's 727 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 8: and Clorox just want maximum eyes, they don't necessarily and 728 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 8: they actually really don't want it to just be limited 729 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 8: to this political group or that political group. So you're 730 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 8: incentivized to serve a broader audience. But as it pivots 731 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 8: to a subscription business, the logical thing to do is 732 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 8: to serve those subscribers. And what those subscribers want is 733 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 8: red meat. They want to be told every single day 734 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 8: the same bad things about Trump. Things that it's not 735 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 8: like it's lies necessarily, other than like lies of omission. 736 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 8: Sometimes there's lies. But they want to be given the 737 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 8: red meat of anti Trump content every day, and they 738 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 8: want the paper to be their sword in the world, 739 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 8: to be there, to be their soldier out there fighting 740 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 8: for them. And that's what they're paying for the subscription. 741 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 8: And the Times courted that with the advertised model and 742 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 8: with with their with not the advertising model, with the 743 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 8: advertising campaigns around framing themselves as the subscriber's sword in 744 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 8: the world. 745 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 6: Now, as for did Trump and his. 746 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 2: Rise, did he break them? 747 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 5: This is what we talked about emotionally. 748 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: Did he emotionally break them or is it just the 749 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 2: last straw. 750 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 6: I'm going to go on the side of Yeah, I 751 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 6: think Trump. 752 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 8: Emotionally broke them a little bit. I think his wildness 753 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 8: and his lack of like traditional decorum made it so 754 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 8: the Democrats became a little wild and lost their sense 755 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 8: of traditional decorum. Because if you think about all the 756 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 8: old values of the old journalists and things, it's it's 757 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 8: a lot of it is like a manners and decorum 758 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 8: and sort of like this is how we like to act, 759 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 8: and this. 760 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 6: Is what we like to you know. 761 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 8: The idea of objectivity is an aspiration. 762 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, And so then you've got the Times death reacting. 763 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 8: You have the whole liberal intelligentsia definitely reacting. I don't 764 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 8: think that's an excuse, though. I don't think you can say, oh, 765 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 8: I just got a note saying, no cursing. 766 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 9: No, it's okay, it's just we're on broadcast radio. I wish, 767 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 9: I wish we could just let you let it fly. 768 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 9: But unfortunately there are there are limitations. There are limitations. Look, 769 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 9: we were talking, we were talking to Trump last night. 770 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 9: He's he's a He's Trump. You can't even really begin 771 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 9: to describe it. I think at this point it's fair 772 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 9: to say he's the most famous person on the planet. 773 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 9: He's the most polarizing person in the United States of 774 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 9: any real magnitude politically, and so the question as to 775 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 9: whether or not he broke them up, I could say this, 776 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 9: I grew up here in New York City. My family 777 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 9: were New York Times subscribers. 778 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 2: Growing up. 779 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 5: Most of the people that grew that were around me, 780 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 5: I think, have grown up to be bid in voting Obama, 781 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 5: voting Democrats, et cetera. And it's very clear though that 782 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 5: even they wreck what you said about the creation of 783 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 5: the New York Times or the perception of the New 784 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 5: York Times as the sword in the world for the left. 785 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 5: Trump there was like an explicit shift right of now 786 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 5: the truth is anti Trump, therefore anti Trump is the truth, 787 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 5: and that changed. 788 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: I think that we saw that, The Washington Post saw that, 789 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 2: The New York Times. 790 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 8: We saw that NBR came out proudly and said, we're 791 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 8: not covering the Hunter Biden. 792 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 2: Right because that would help the enemy. 793 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 5: Effectively, we're proudly we're speaking to Nelly Balls or book 794 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 5: by the Way, Morning After the Revolution, Dispatches from the 795 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 5: Wrong Side of History, And I just say, our producer 796 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 5: Ali Clay read the entire thing. We get books, We 797 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 5: get books and top books, the top books, we get 798 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 5: like books for people I've never heard of before, books 799 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 5: and foreign languages, like we got books everywhere here for 800 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 5: one of our producers to go and read it cover 801 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 5: to cover and then make sure that Nelly comes on 802 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 5: I think says something about what's in it. 803 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 2: I just want to pose this one to you, Nelly. 804 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 4: For me. 805 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 5: Actually, it felt like the Tom Cotton op ed was. 806 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 5: I know a lot of people felt this way a 807 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 5: turning point. A sitting senator making an argument on the 808 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 5: editorial page is unacceptable to the rest of the tribe. 809 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 2: So to speak inside the Times. How did that play out? 810 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 8: I think, I mean, at this point we've all read 811 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 8: a lot about how that played out, and how it 812 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 8: played out was basically internally within the Times, every good 813 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 8: reporter had to get together and tweet the same tweet. 814 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 8: We were all supposed to tweet that this op ed 815 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 8: puts our black colleagues in danger, that a sitting senator 816 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 8: saying to call in cops, to call in the National 817 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 8: Guard to quell some of the riots puts our colleagues 818 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 8: somehow in danger. And if you didn't post that message, 819 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 8: you were on the wrong side, and you would start 820 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 8: people would notice, they reach out. Yeah, And so I 821 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 8: was never canceled. I'm not here like with a tiny 822 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 8: violin complaining like our life is great of the free press, 823 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 8: like things are fabulous. But at the time when I 824 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 8: was there as a staffer, when I didn't post the 825 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 8: tweet and try to cancel that the young editor who 826 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 8: was behind that op ed, or was one of the 827 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 8: editors behind it, that was kind of my end of 828 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,919 Speaker 8: my time there. It was sort of the line drawn 829 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 8: in the sand by the movement, and it said you 830 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 8: have to post something irrational, you have to post something 831 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 8: that we all kind of know is a lie. The 832 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 8: op ed doesn't put lives in danger, but you have 833 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 8: to do that and if you don't, then you're clearly 834 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 8: not with us. So and that's not coming from the 835 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 8: top down. That's coming bottom up. And I think a 836 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 8: lot of what we're seeing in these companies and in 837 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 8: universities too right now, with what's going on campus, it's 838 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 8: bottom up, and then the leadership crumbles to it. So obviously, 839 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 8: then the editor, the opinion section editor at the Times, 840 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 8: after that piece, Ran. 841 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 6: Had to resign. Was basically fucking a forced resignation. 842 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 2: Nellie's beauty also the last question for you. 843 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: I encourage everybody to go check it out and also 844 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: check out the Free Press. 845 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 6: Let me tell you to check out the Free Press. 846 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: Having read this book, I did a little bit of 847 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: player managing myself when I ran out Kick and then 848 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: I sold it to Fox. I'm curious for you to 849 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: analyze what you think the future is of news and journalism. 850 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure you thought about it a lot as you 851 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: wrote the book. You're having a lot of success at 852 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: the Free Press, which is a subscriber based platform. You're 853 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: a player manager. I would imagine in some ways along 854 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: with your wife and trying to manage this new era 855 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,479 Speaker 1: of journalism and news. Are you optimistic that we come 856 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: through the Trump era, however it ends, and news is 857 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: in a better place. Or do you think we fragmented 858 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: and blown up to such an extent that everybody just 859 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: goes and finds their shard of reality and there is 860 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: no sort of cohesive news industry anymore. 861 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:54,959 Speaker 2: Where are we going? 862 00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 8: I think the new world of media upstarts is obviously 863 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 8: so exciting guys like real players who are coming up 864 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 8: to push against the legacy press and to have the 865 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 8: old values but in slightly new formats. What are we 866 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 8: at the Free Press. We're a newsletter that's now a website, 867 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 8: we have a podcast. We're not doing anything revolutionary in 868 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 8: terms of form. What's revolutionary is we're doing old fashioned 869 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 8: journalism with the skill sets and the values of the 870 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 8: old world, but the freedom and curiosity of the new. 871 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 8: And I'm really optimistic about us, obviously, but others too. 872 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 8: I'm optimistic about a bunch of new media up starts. 873 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,760 Speaker 8: And then what in my dream world happens is then 874 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 8: all of these upstarts start to pressure the legacy media 875 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 8: to be more honest, to get better, to improve itself, 876 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 8: and so hopefully the free press ends up making The 877 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 8: New York Times a better place and making NPR a 878 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 8: better place. Hopefully it makes a better ecosystem, a more 879 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 8: honest one. I think no one wants to be lied to, 880 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 8: and no one wants even your political adversaries, no one 881 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,280 Speaker 8: wants them fed lies. 882 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 2: I'm excited about the future as well. This is great. 883 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to read the book. To bucks point Ally's point, 884 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: we get a lot of books. I'm very fascinated to 885 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: read yours. Keep up the good work. Congrats on the 886 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: book coming out, and hopefully we'll talk to you again soon. 887 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having me on your producers. 888 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 6: A very smart woman. 889 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 2: Weird story. 890 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,720 Speaker 1: Number one fantasy sports app out there right now. Prize 891 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: Picks over five million active members' easiest, most exciting way 892 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,479 Speaker 1: to play daily fantasy sports. If you haven't done it yet, 893 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,919 Speaker 1: do it today. Download the Prize Picks app. 894 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 2: Open it up. 895 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: Even the occasional sports fan, you're gonna love this. If 896 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: you like the NBA, if you like the NHL, heck, 897 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: if you like Major League Baseball on a day to 898 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 1: day basis, as my boys do here in the Travis Household, 899 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: Go Braves. You're going to be able to pick more 900 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: or less on a huge variety of different players. And 901 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: you can play it in Florida, you can play it 902 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: in Georgia, you can play it in Texas. You can 903 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 1: play it in California if you've been feeling left out. 904 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: Best way to get action in more than thirty states, 905 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 1: and you get one hundred bucks just for signing up 906 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,800 Speaker 1: a first deposit match of up to one hundred bucks. 907 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: Download the prize Picks app, use the promo code Clay 908 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: to get set up. Get the deposit match up to 909 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 1: one hundred bucks, pick more pickless prizepicks dot Com. Use 910 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: my name Clay and get one hundred bucks pick more, Pickless. 911 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 2: It's that easy. 912 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 7: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do 913 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 7: a lot of it with the Sunday Hang. Join Clay 914 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 7: and Buck as they laugh it up in the Clay 915 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,280 Speaker 7: and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever 916 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 7: you get your podcasts. 917 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 918 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 2: Reminder. 919 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 1: We are going to play our Donald Trump interview for you. 920 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: The rest of it at the top of the next hour, 921 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: so a little over ten minutes from now. We talked 922 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,880 Speaker 1: with Trump last night. He's obviously in the courtroom right now. 923 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: During the course of our I'm sure we'll have him 924 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: on several times between now and the election. In fact, 925 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that a little bit with him during 926 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 1: the course of the conversation that you're about to hear. 927 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: But also, if you're out in your car right now, 928 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: let's say you just got in, you're like, okay, good, 929 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 1: I want to hear Trump on with the guys you are, 930 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: But also the first half has played. We played that 931 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: in the first hour. It will be up on the podcast. 932 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: So if you just want to hear Trump for the 933 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: twenty some odd minutes that he spent with us, uh, 934 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: we'll put that together and it will be up as 935 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 1: a part of the Clay and Buck podcast. You'll be 936 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: able to go listen to that there thanks Toanelli Bowls. 937 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm going to read that book too. 938 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 1: Morning after the Revolution, you and I were talking about 939 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,439 Speaker 1: how more competition in media is good overall, we think 940 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: for an industry that is quite frankly broken in many ways. 941 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: And we want to say also Michael Mason, video guru 942 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: a lot of you watch this radio show on video 943 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 1: now Michael Mayson and gets the video clips out. He 944 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:07,319 Speaker 1: works fantastic for us getting married today in Maui. I've 945 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 1: still never been to Hawaii. Have you been to Hawaii? 946 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: Hawaii is amazing Maui. You can't go wrong getting married 947 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: in Maui want honestly one of the most beautiful places 948 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: on the planet. 949 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 2: I would argue. 950 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: Michael is getting married to his fiance, Chelsea, who is 951 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: we are told is fantastic. So congratulations to Michael and 952 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: Chelsea on their wedding day. 953 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 5: They're very cute couple, the two of them, and they 954 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 5: also have an adorable Boston Terrier. So that's near and 955 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 5: dear to my heart because I grew up with the 956 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 5: Boston Terrier. But so Michael and Chelsea. God bless congratulations 957 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 5: and many decades of health, happiness and love ahead of you. 958 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 5: And Michael, thank you for all the great work you 959 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 5: do on the show. 960 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: Speaking of great work, your brother who is working with 961 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: us at Crockett Coffee is killing it. Mason Sexton and 962 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: I was on the road in at black Berry Mountain. 963 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 1: They have BlackBerry Farm and BlackBerry Mountain. You and Kerrie 964 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: need to go check it out. Incredible resort in East Tennessee, 965 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: just a little ways outside of Knoxville in the Great 966 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,919 Speaker 1: Smoky Mountains. Basically, I took Krockett Coffee with me and 967 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: I had Crockett coffee every morning while I was in 968 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: East Tennessee. And I gotta tell you this coffee is incredible. 969 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 1: If you haven't checked it out already. Crocketcoffee dot com, 970 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: go get subscribed, free shipping. When you sign up for 971 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: a subscription, you're gonna love it. And importantly, you're out 972 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: there and you walk into we were just talking with 973 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: Nelly Bowls there. If you walk into a coffee shop 974 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: and you give your money to a company that hates 975 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,879 Speaker 1: you and your values, doesn't it just kind of feel 976 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: sick to your stomach? A lot of you are doing that. 977 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: Starbuck is Starbucks is using some of their profits to 978 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: help fund transgender surgery for miners. 979 00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 2: Yep, what in the. 980 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: World if you are listening to us right now and 981 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 1: you have a choice to spend your money with companies 982 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: that value you and support what you believe in, or 983 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: to give it to a bunch of comedies lunatics, it 984 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: feels like an easy choice. Plus the coffee's amazing. Crocketcoffee 985 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: dot Com, Crocketcoffee dot Com everybody. And there'll be more 986 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: gear coming up soon on that website. So you can 987 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 1: buy t shirts, hoodies, it's kind of stuff you really 988 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 1: want to wear. And I remember it's all a celebration 989 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 1: of American history, of the legacy of Davy Crockett. 990 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 5: And the frontier spirit. So and more products coming there. Clay, 991 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 5: we have more with President Trump here. You have not 992 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 5: heard this if you're listening to right now. This has 993 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 5: not aired before. It is our interview with President Trump. 994 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 5: We talked to him for a while last night, hanging 995 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 5: out with Big Tea himself, and we're gonna bring you 996 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 5: the latest. He talks about the border wide open border, 997 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,320 Speaker 5: what's he going to do about securing it, about the wall, 998 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 5: about deportations, We get into that and much more. Also, 999 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 5: does he think Biden? Clay asked him, does he think 1000 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 5: Biden's even going to be his opponent? That's all coming up. 1001 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 5: Trump stick around