1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Hey guys, this is Greg Rosenthal for NFL Daily. You'll 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: notice no intro. What's going on is because we already 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: taped the intro. We taped the whole show. We taped 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: three different parts of the show. I got Jordan Rodrig 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: coming up. I got Nick Shouk coming up. I got 6 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Stacey Dale's talking about the Bears. But I am growing 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: increasingly insane, wanting to get every bit of news possible 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: into this show. And we had breaking news on CD 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: Lamb not reporting for Dallas Cowboys training camp. He did 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: not get on the Cowboys playing on Tuesday over to 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: the West Coast and Oxnard. He is not showing up, 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: and I want to make sure that was in the show. 13 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys can't be surprised letting it get this close. They've 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: been here before, by the way, Zach Martin held out 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Ezekiel Elliott had a really 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,319 Speaker 1: long holdout you'll remember in twenty nineteen that didn't end 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: till the season almost started. It doesn't seem like this 18 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb contract is particularly close at this point, but 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: he will not be there. It is not devastating for 20 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys to be missing a wide receiver during training camp. 21 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: It is not the same as if Matthew Stafford had 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: missed training camp for the Rams. We'll get to that 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: later in the show, but it is still a reminder 24 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: of how much work this Cowboys team has to do 25 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: in the next couple of weeks. Between Lamb, maybe Dak 26 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons is going to need a contract extension at 27 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: some point and Cede Lamb should not accept anything less 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: than justin Jefferson money, whether it's more, whether it's a 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: little bit less, He's going to be in that ballpark. 30 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: So Cowboys camp starting off on an annoying note, but 31 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: they love the attention, even if it's negative attention, and 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys seems like they've had plenty of that this offseason. 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: A lot to get to on today's show, and now 34 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to send it over to myself and start 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: off this show with Nick Schuk to get to all 36 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: the news. All the teams are back on the practice field. 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: It really feels like the NFL season started on Tuesday. 38 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: And excited to have you aboard. Welcome to NFL Daily, 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: where we would not look better blonde. I'm Greg Rosenthal 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: and beyond lucky today to be joined by my friend 41 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: Nick Shook of NFL dot Com NFL Network, and he 42 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: misses the days when he had hair to potentially color. Yeah. 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: Fun fact, Greg, when I was like six years old, 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: I have a picture from my dad's wedding to my 45 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: former stepmom. I had flowing locks, blonde hair. It was 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: nicely quaffed for the wedding. I was in at tux 47 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: but at one point it went down to my shoulders. 48 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: So I'm bald now, but it was in the past. 49 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: It there. I don't know if you could pull off 50 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: the platinum look that Joe Burrow did on the way 51 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: into training camp. But you gotta love a young man 52 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: who can like make national news just by changing his 53 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: hair color. I'm punt. I just feel different today, Nick. 54 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: Twenty three teams showed up to work on Tuesday for 55 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: training camp. Really feels like it's all happening. It started. 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of news that happened today, and so 57 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: we are going to get to all of it. We're 58 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: also going to talk about the Matthew Stafford contract adjustment 59 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: and whether there might be a little bit more to 60 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: the story there with one of our great contributors, Jordan 61 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: Rodrieg of the Athletic also going to do a deep 62 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: dive on the Bears, who have been in camp now 63 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: for more than a week or almost a week there 64 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: in Chicago, and we'll do that at the end of 65 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: the show. But before we do that, Nick, let's roll 66 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: through the news. Hit it Randy Jews Okay, outside of 67 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: that like one hour where it looked like Matthew Stafford 68 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: might be holding out, Nick, I think the most interesting 69 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: news today we're the players that showed up. Let's start 70 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: with Brandon Ayuk and t a tongue of iloa off 71 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: the bat. Brandon Ayuk, we've talked about how he requested 72 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: a trade, but he is there in training camp. We 73 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: don't know yet if it's going to be a hold in, 74 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: but it's definitely not a hold out. John Lynch, the GM, 75 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: was asked at a press conference on Tuesday whether he 76 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: could guarantee that Ayuk stays on this roster. 77 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: I think again, no absolutes there. We fully intend on 78 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: Brandon being a Niner moving forward. We're always open to 79 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: listen to things, but like I said, we expect Brandon 80 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: to be an integral part of our team like he 81 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: has been and excited about that. 82 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting that he won't say that he won't 83 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: trade him, leaving that door open. I mean that to 84 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: me is very purposeful. I don't think he expects to 85 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: trade him. I think they want to have him there, 86 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: but I think they don't know how this is going 87 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: to go, and they're leaving the door just a little 88 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: bit open in case someone wants to come with a 89 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: real deal offer that I doubt has happened so far. 90 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think both sides are kind of feeling each 91 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: other out. It Neither is really handling this the most graciously. 92 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: The fact that Ayuke showed up I was a little 93 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: bit surp And the one thing you do is you 94 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: never speak in absolutes until you couch everything. I'm not 95 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 2: going to go in absolutes. You know he will be 96 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: on the team because you get the Godfather offer and 97 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: you're like, all right, we're gonna move on. Like if 98 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: there's something you can't turn down, then you obviously take 99 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: that offer. But I just don't think that exists right now, 100 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: and we don't live in a world like you know 101 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: you had talked about with Ian last week, where you 102 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 2: know there's a one for one deal like you know 103 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: him for DeVonta Adams, who says no, that doesn't really exist, 104 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: so it's going to be complicated to move him. I 105 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: do expect him to eventually be on that roster, but 106 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: I don't think they really understand exactly where they are 107 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: in negotiations right now. 108 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, there'll be more on this on Wednesday. Will see 109 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: if he practices. I doubt it, but I also said 110 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: on Monday show that I expected Jordan Love would practice 111 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: and was immediately wrong. So it's dangerous to make guesses 112 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: on news that can change to a toungo Bylois showed up, 113 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: not a surprise to me. Tyreek Hill was also there, 114 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: and that one's been on my radar that he wants 115 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: a new contract. He talked about the one thing he 116 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: wanted to get across to his agent Drew Rosenhause on Tuesday. 117 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: Yes, I had no idea. Obviously, I let Drew and 118 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: you know, the team handled that situation. And the only 119 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 4: thing I told Drew was like, do not get me traded. Bro, 120 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 4: Last time you needed this, you got me traded. So 121 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 4: that's been my only thing. 122 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: Team. 123 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: I'm like, if I I want to stay here in Miami. 124 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, I would want to stay in Miami if 125 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: I was him too, with Mike McDaniel and in that city. 126 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: It's tricky though. You kind of can't pay tyreek Hill 127 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: until you pay to a tongue of Ailoa. And it 128 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: wasn't at our network. But I've just seen some cautious 129 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: reporting about that they might not be that close and 130 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: that there might be a belief if I'm reading between 131 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: the lines from the Dolphins that look like, unlike these 132 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks, there might not be a sixty million dollars 133 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: per year offer out there for Tua from other teams, 134 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: so that the Dolphs actually feel they might have a 135 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: little more leverage than other teams in this situation. That 136 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: was Jeff Darlington that said that I should I should 137 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: credit him our former co worker, just a little different 138 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: on this vibe than all the other quarterback talks. 139 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know this, this one feels like the Dolphins 140 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: are hesitant, and I think a lot of it is 141 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: because of market value, like you said, and it's also 142 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, he led the league in passing last year, 143 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: but he's also only completed one season fully healthy, and 144 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: there's just a little bit less to work with if 145 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: he's your guy, you pay him. But I understand the 146 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: hesitancy and how you're trying to react to a quarterback 147 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: market that just continues to balloon and waiting it out. 148 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: It feels like this one might actually go on pretty long, 149 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: which could hold up everything else. But then again, if 150 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: you look at Tyreek how much you know, how are 151 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: you really going to pay him? When we talked about this, 152 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: you know on a previous show, there are only so 153 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: many shiny toys in that toy room that you can pay, 154 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: you know, over time. And if you're gonna give a 155 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: ton of money to the quarterback, then somebody's gonna have 156 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: to suffer the consequences. So it's I think they're in 157 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: a bit of a holding pattern right now, so we'll 158 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: see how it plays out well. 159 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: And they just gave him a ton of money two 160 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: years ago, and the CBA rules are such you can 161 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: just always keep renegotiating, and that contract starts to look 162 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: pretty good after a couple of years, just because faut 163 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: salaries go up. So it's a tricky spot with him 164 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: a few years away from free agency. It doesn't sound 165 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: to me, though, that he is going to raise a 166 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: big stink And maybe he'll get the Amari Cooper deal. 167 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna get to him in a second, where you 168 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: just get like a little bit of a re you 169 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: get something out of the deal for being a pain. 170 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: Hassan Redick's situation is different, though he is holding out 171 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: of training camp. There just have not been been many 172 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: holdouts since this new CBA was signed, because you can 173 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: get fined heavily and it really increases quickly where you're 174 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: losing a lot of money. Hassan Reddick is due to 175 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: make fourteen point five million dollars per year. I want 176 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: to read something from Rich Samini, who's one of the 177 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: best Jets reporters out there. He works for ESPN. He wrote. 178 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: At the time of the trade, the Jets were quote 179 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: under the impression that Reddick, who turns thirty on September 180 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: twenty second, was content to play out the final year 181 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: of his contract and hit free agency. There may have 182 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: been a miscommunication or perhaps Reddick changed his mind. Either way, 183 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: it was an odd look for both sides. I've never 184 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: seen this a guy that gets traded and then is 185 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: immediately upset with the team. And you hate to say, 186 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: same old Jets, but it just is like this is 187 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: not something they were expecting coming into the year, that 188 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: this is the bit of drama that they have to 189 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: deal with. 190 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bummer too, because he's part of a 191 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: defense that's ferocious and it's the ideal piece to really 192 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: take them to the next level. But he's also nineteenth 193 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: and apy right now, and he's in the final year 194 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 2: of his deal, and he's thirty years old, so if 195 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 2: he's going to cash in, it's got to be right now. 196 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: So I understand the sense of urgency from him. But 197 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: usually when you see these deals happen, you see extensions 198 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: immediately follow the fact that we're seeing the opposite as 199 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: training camp starts again falls under the umbrella of Jets 200 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: just not quite handling the situation the best. 201 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: It just sounds it says there may have been a miscommunication, 202 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: so the Jet just reading between the lines with that reporting. 203 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: The Jets thought they were good for whatever reason, because 204 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: he was not happy in Philadelphia. That's really why they 205 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: made the move to get Bryce Huff from the Jets 206 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: who replaced Hassan Reddick. I talked to someone in Philadelphia, 207 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: not with a team, just a reporter that was like 208 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: it was a deal. It was a deal last year. 209 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: It affected Hassan Reddick. He was not happy and I 210 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: don't know if it affected his play, but they knew 211 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: he wasn't happy. And now the Jets are dealing with 212 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: that same situation. You're Brownies won't have to worry about 213 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: that though, at least not with the Mari Cooper, who 214 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: you know has earned his money and then some I 215 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: would say with the Browns, that was an excellent move 216 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: by Andrew Berry and he did show up and they 217 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: didn't even give him a raise. They just gave him 218 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: five million dollars in incentives. The whether that's reachable incentives 219 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: or not, we don't really know at this point. The 220 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: details aren't out there. And that's sometimes what you do 221 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: with these veterans. You just tack like a little bit 222 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: of incentives on when they don't really have much leverage, 223 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: and it makes them happy enough. In a mar Cooper 224 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: is in the building and they need in the building. 225 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we talk about leverage. I think about 226 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: his position. I mean, he is the most important receiver 227 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: on that team by a long shot. This is another 228 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 2: season in which they don't know what they have in 229 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson. He needs that guy out there. I thought 230 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: he was going to get more out of it. I 231 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: thought he at least get another year. The fact that 232 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: he just got five million incentives and he got ten 233 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: million up front, I mean that was a serious concession 234 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: on a Marii's part to get to camp. I mean, 235 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: I was very surprised by that, because he's another guy 236 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: thirty years old. That's usually the marque's the last time 237 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: you can really cash in on a multi year deal. 238 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: So to you know, see that he only got half 239 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: of it up front, ten million out of that twenty 240 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: everything else is the same, and you can earn five 241 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: million more. I mean, he's been super productive, and I 242 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: give him that. He could probably hit some of those incentives. 243 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: We don't know what they are, but I was just surprised. 244 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: I thought he'd get more. 245 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: Up Yeah, if I had to guess, what happened was 246 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: they just were not going to give him guaranteed money 247 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: or give him a fair contract into next year. The 248 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: whole idea of like, oh we're guaranteeing him this salary. 249 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: You don't need to do that already, he's making the team. 250 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: It's guaranteed. Once you're on the team week one, you 251 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: get it. Ten million dollars right now instead of spread out. 252 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: Some people like that. You get the money quicker, you 253 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: can invest it quicker. Who knows. Maybe he's buying a house. 254 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: That's nice. But if they weren't going to give him 255 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: a fair multi year extension, he might prefer Okay, forget it. 256 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: I want to get back on the market. But it's 257 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: not like they promise not to tag him or anything 258 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: like that. So he'll be motivated to have a big 259 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: time year. I'm sure he will. I just I know 260 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: he hasn't been the most consistent player, but when he 261 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: is out there, he has been awesome. And he was 262 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: almost underrated how good he was last year. Yeah, for Cleveland, 263 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: let's go to their division rivals. Mike Brown talked about 264 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: the Jamar Chase contract, and let's listen to it because 265 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: I think there's a couple directions we could go. But 266 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: let's parse some. Mike Brown talking before the season. 267 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 5: He's a key player next to Joe, he's our next one, 268 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 5: and he knows that we know it. This may take 269 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 5: a while. They are going to bend over backwards to 270 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 5: get it done. I can't tell you when though. 271 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So that was the positive part. If you're a 272 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: Bengals fan, and that's what they latched onto. Later in 273 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: that same press conference, he did indicate it's hard for 274 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: him to imagine that contract happening before this season, and 275 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: that was the quote that got sent out a lot 276 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: by the national reporters, and then the Bengals fans are 277 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: mad and they're like, oh, why are you trying to 278 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: make it sound like same old Bengals When he said 279 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna bend over backwards and the truth is somewhere 280 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: in the middle. That indicated to me and Jamar Chase 281 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: being happy indicated to me like, it'll probably, it'll it'll 282 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: be fine. But he's also saying I'm not going to 283 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: negotiate essentially with in camp or in the regular seats 284 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: like other teams do that. So if you were really 285 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: bending over backwards, you could do that, and other teams 286 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: make sure to lock up their receiver this season in 287 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: a year early instead of going into a contract the 288 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: year having like a Ceedee Lamb situation. We see it 289 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: with Justin Jefferson. So he's not exactly bending over backwards, 290 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: and the people that are saying, okay, it's it's always 291 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: a little more complicated with the Bengals. I think there's 292 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: some truth to that too. That said, I just think 293 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: they've telegraphed it's probably Chase happening. Higgins not, and hopefully 294 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: for Bengals fans, they end for Joe Burrow, they get 295 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: it done eventually. 296 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I think this deal gets done next year 297 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 2: early next year. They have the protection of his you know, 298 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: one more year left in his contract. They don't need 299 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: to be in a rush. I don't think that he 300 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: gets to a contract year situation. The riding was on 301 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: the wall as soon as they tagged T Higgins and 302 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: didn't sign him do an extension. He's the only player 303 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: who was franchised tagged this offseason who did not sign 304 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 2: an extension. We know what that means. Joe Burrow already 305 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 2: got paid. Jamar Chase's next We're just not going to 306 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: do it right now. But he has an integral part 307 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: of our offense and of our future. The only question 308 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: I have Greg, does he exceed thirty five million the 309 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: year that Justin Jefferson got, Because if he has a 310 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: huge year this year, then he's going to. 311 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: Yes. Although the you know, the Bengals, Joe Burrow, they 312 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: got to him to take just like a little bit 313 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: less than the other guys. It wasn't much if he 314 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: really looked at the structure. He obviously did extremely well, 315 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: but just just a little bit less. So maybe he 316 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: doesn't go over that. And to be fair to the Bengals, 317 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: I pointed out justin Jefferson, he got drafted a year 318 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: before Chase, of course, so that same contract did not 319 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: happen until the following year. And you're right, it's going 320 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: to cost a little more in a year. But the 321 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: Bengals sound like they're ready to do it. And yeah, 322 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: I mentioned at the top Joe Burrow with the hair, 323 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: what did you think little Eminem? You know, Eminem, I 324 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: saw number one on the Billboard charts. It's in twenty 325 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: twenty four. How about that? And then Joe Burrow with 326 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: the homage to Eminem today with the platinum hair. 327 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 2: As soon as I saw it, I just thought, man, 328 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: I have your attention please. It's the ninety nine VMA 329 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 2: is all over again, Eminem and like fifty guys, all 330 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 2: his blonde hair and he's walking into camp. 331 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: I love I love that Joe. He was very outspoken LSU. 332 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: He's a different sort of dude. And he has not 333 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: let go of that at all. We can only hope 334 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: he is healthy this year because like he makes the 335 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: NFL so much better. A couple things before we get 336 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: to our speed round just quickly, the nfl PA, their director, 337 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: spoke to Mark Maski of The Washington Post talking about 338 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: eighteen game and making that part of every regular season, 339 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: and he said there's been very very very used three varies, 340 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: high level, superficially with a recognition about, yeah, this is 341 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: something we should be talking about. So he was asked 342 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: if there has been talked and we should really kick 343 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: the tires and understand what else is going to go 344 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: into it, But he also pointed out he's not ruling 345 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: it out. He said, the simple fact of the matter, 346 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: when you have a growing enterprise and there's opportunities within 347 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: that period of time, why wouldn't you want to do that. 348 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: So it sounds like the players are open to it. 349 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: The devil will be in the details. 350 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be in the details. But you know, we 351 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: know the NFL loves to make everything a tent pole event. 352 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: They love to capitalize on their you know, ever continuing growth. 353 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 2: So I think this is an inevitable result of that. 354 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: Growth. I thought you were saying they're going to make 355 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: the CBA negotiations for eighteen games like a new tentpole event, 356 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: like we'll do some programming. 357 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 2: We'll have a special, we'll talk about the whole instead 358 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: of coverage for it. My only question is, if you 359 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 2: go to eighteen games, do you work in two buys 360 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 2: because that is a grind of a season. 361 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: Yes, I think you should. I think the players will 362 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: want that. And again that's the details. And for all 363 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: you out there who don't know the CBA details, and 364 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: why would you you have football, it's not up till 365 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: twenty thirty one, So any eighteen game season if that happened, 366 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: if they tried to agree to that, they'd have to 367 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: rip up the deal. They'd have to make some adjustments. 368 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure the players would want some concessions, maybe a 369 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: higher share of revenue, but it really feels like there 370 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: is momentum there. They would get rid of a preseason 371 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: game almost certainly. Roger Goodell has mentioned that, so that 372 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: story continues to move forward. Finally, Tyson Campbell, when a 373 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: guy signs a four year, seventy six million dollar contract, 374 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: I just put him in the news. I know, not 375 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people know about Tyson Campbell, but Nick 376 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: Schuck does because he knows about every team. 377 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, And I was thinking, I'm like, yeah, that 378 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: makes sense. And then I thought, well, actually, let's go 379 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 2: look at his numbers. And last year he was not 380 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: very good, but he was dealing with a hamstring injury 381 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: for the majority of the season, and anybody's ever had 382 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: a hamstring injury knows those are nagging. They don't heal quickly. 383 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: It can hamper you, especially when speed is the name 384 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: of your game. The year prior he had a great 385 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. He finished in the top five and 386 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: targeted EPA allowed. His number was in waylow, which is 387 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: good when you're a defensive back. It shot in the 388 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: other direction last year because he was hampered by that injury. 389 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 2: This is a contract that you're doing before the anticipated 390 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: bounce back season so that you're not paying an even 391 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: higher premium next year. So good on the Jaguars for 392 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: betting on a guy that they believe in second round pick. 393 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: You already have the investment there, makes a ton of sense. 394 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: Now he's just got to go out and produce and 395 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 2: prove that he was worth it. 396 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love it because he is a really good player. 397 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, I think they learned from 398 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: the Josh Allen now josh heinz Allen situation where they 399 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: waited a year on to give him his contract and 400 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: they ended up paying a lot more. And you just 401 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: the most important thing you can do as a team 402 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: is identify who are your guys, the guys that you're 403 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: going to be paying out three four years. He got 404 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: guarantees into the third year of this contract, and I 405 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: think they did a good job there. 406 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: That's also that's a that's a rare instance in which 407 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: hyphenation really helps everybody. Usually just complicates matters. But with 408 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 2: two prominent josh Allen's in the NFL, I appreciate the 409 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: hyphenation of heinz Allen. So that now when I write, 410 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 2: I don't have to write Josh Allen the edge rusher, 411 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: Josh Allen the quarterback, So thank you. 412 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: So was he always Joshua because he's now Joshua Hindellen's 413 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Okay, so now it's changed on multiple friends, 414 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: and more power to him. And good job by the jogguars. 415 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: All Right, Randy, hit the music, We're going fast. Other 416 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: players reporting to camp on Tuesday, Courtland Sutton of the Broncos, 417 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara of the Saints. 418 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara probably gonna stay quiet on the matter. I 419 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 2: understand his position, but it's good that he's there because 420 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: this is a big year for the Saints offensively, after 421 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: that offense struggled. You know, statistically they're actually better than 422 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: you realize, but visually it was a tough watch. So 423 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 2: it's good that he's there. He's an important part of 424 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 2: that offense. In Courtland Sutton, just just stay healthy and 425 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 2: stay on the field and try and figure it out 426 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 2: with your newest quarterback, whoever it is. With the Broncos. 427 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: Let's just see if John Payton can make it all work. 428 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: All right, they're splitting reps to that point, the Broncos 429 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: between three quarterbacks to start camp. I g that never 430 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: is great. It's Bo Nix, It's Jared Stidham, and it's 431 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: our friend Zach Wilson. The Dolphin sign. Emmanuel Ogba mentioned 432 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: a couple of shows ago how Shaq Barrett retired Agbah 433 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: gets five million dollars, was the best pass rusher available, 434 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: so that makes sense. He might be starting in Week one. 435 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: He probably is for them. They're so banged up. They 436 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: also put Odell Beckham on the pup list. Not a 437 00:20:55,119 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: great sign there. Kadarius Tony is playing running back in practice. 438 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 5: No, Greg. 439 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I understand trying to get the football 440 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 2: Canaria is Tony's hands. He's a great athlete and everything, 441 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: but he's also not the most resilient physically. I fear 442 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 2: the idea of Kadarius Tony running between the tackles. That's 443 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: not the Chiefs offense, but it just scares me. Maybe 444 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: you get him out on the perimeter, a little orbit motion, 445 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: that type of thing, and it makes sense. 446 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: But they got a chance, a chance to make the team, Shooky, 447 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: it's his chance to make the team. He might not. 448 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was out for a fourth Street Day with 449 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: an illness. Jacobe Brissett is the starter with the Patriots 450 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: according to their coach Drod Mayo, but Drake may could 451 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: absolutely play his way into being the starter week one 452 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: if he outplays Perssett and camp Mayo said it's not 453 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: about like hitting certain benchmarks or like whether whether may 454 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: is ready. He's just like, if he outplays Perset, he'll 455 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: be a Week one starter. I don't think they want 456 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: that to happen. Chase Brown, a lot of Chase Brown hype, 457 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: has the opportunity to be the guy in Cincinnati. According 458 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: to Duke Tobyn, what do you think about that? Yeah, 459 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: that's strange. 460 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, they got rid of Joe Mixon 461 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: and they were like, all right, we're gonna go Zack Moss. Yeah, 462 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: this is it. And I looked at that backward and 463 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 2: I thought, committee is somebody else gonna pick up some 464 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 2: of the slacks. 465 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens. And I like Chase Brown. 466 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: I like Chase Brown. That it probably will be a 467 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: committee Zach Moss, Chase Brown. But it does show that 468 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: they like Chase Brown quite a bit. And finally, Antonio Pierce, 469 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: the latest coach to join the UR starters, will play 470 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: in the preseason brigade. Yeah, it's kind of happening all 471 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: over the league. At least a handful of teams are like, 472 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna play start as Drodmeyo was another one. I 473 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: feel like it's almost a pushback to the trend that's 474 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: been happening. 475 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're facing a future in which you might have 476 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: one less preseason game. These guys need tune ups. These 477 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: are not the days of old with two A days, 478 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: so let's get them some reps. 479 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 4: Why not? 480 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: That's it chooky light work for you. This is like 481 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: when you go to the gym and you just don't 482 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: have time. Does that ever happen to you? Or I 483 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: when you just make it happen and you're just like, 484 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do thirty minutes just on my thighs or 485 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. 486 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 2: That's why I pound out some quick cardio and then 487 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: I run. 488 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: Through shoulders real quick and it's just in and out. 489 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: So light work for Shook today. He is going on 490 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 1: a well deserved couple days off coming up, So enjoy it, 491 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: my friend, and we will get to you next week. 492 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: And we're going to get to Jordan Rodrieg of the 493 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: Athletic right after the break to talk a little Matthew 494 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: Stafford back on NFL Daily. It's Jordan rodrig of the 495 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: Athletic and a surprise appearance. Look, we didn't know, Jordans 496 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: that the Rams were going to make news today, but 497 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: you were there when the news was being made and 498 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: I thought you had a great perspective on it, and 499 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: so wanted to get you on. We're actually going to 500 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: start for the first time ever in the history of 501 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: NFL Daily with an appearance by a previous version of 502 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: our guests before the actual guest. So listen to Jordan 503 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: Rodrieg doing real reporter stuff at a press conference earlier 504 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: today talking to Sean McVay about this Matthew Stafford contract adjustment. 505 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 6: So it's just just to be clear, respectfully, just so 506 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 6: what it was. 507 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 7: There was some financial commentent, but also there were additional 508 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 7: things you guys wanted to talk. 509 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 8: Through, and there's a lot of layers to these things, Shortan, 510 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 8: and I think you know that as well. And what 511 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 8: I here's what I would say, I would prefer and 512 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 8: I totally respect and understand. Just there's a lot of 513 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 8: layers to it. There was a lot of conversations in dialogue, 514 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 8: some of which, you know, maybe was somewhat close, some 515 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 8: of which was really far off. And so all I 516 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 8: really cared about was what I heard from him. What 517 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 8: was important that Jimmy communicated to our group and then 518 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 8: we were able to get it solved with less Kevin 519 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 8: Tony and myself, and that I am grateful for. 520 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: Muh, just kind of a weird press conference, weird day 521 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: with the rams weird, right, the actual transaction shouldn't be 522 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 1: that weird, Like Matthew Stafford wanted more money, and we 523 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: don't have all the details, but I believe you're reporting 524 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: at the Athletic has that there is more guaranteed money 525 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: into future years of his contract and the devil will 526 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: be in the details there. That's that's not strange. But 527 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: even your question there that Sean McVay referred to it 528 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: wasn't all about the money. What was your takeaway with that? 529 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, I was so when this situation started unfolding many 530 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 7: months ago. I guess that answer doesn't necessarily surprise me. 531 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 7: Although openly talking about how it wasn't necessarily all financially 532 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 7: related or admitting that it wasn't all financially related. In 533 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 7: terms of how the conversations unfolded, he made some allusions 534 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 7: and references to previous situations, and he even talked about, 535 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 7: you know, previous failures that he had gone through, And 536 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 7: I wondered for a minute if that was potentially talking 537 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 7: about some of the lack of communication that is very 538 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 7: much on the record about having happened between himself and 539 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 7: Jared Goff before or he traded Jared goff and so 540 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 7: I think wanting to avoid that this time around. You know, 541 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 7: this situation dragged on. Obviously they weren't ever talking about, 542 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 7: you know, that drastic of a move, but in terms 543 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 7: of this contract adjustment, you know, wanting to make sure that, 544 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 7: even on something that you would think is relatively simple 545 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 7: like this, that you're communicating very clearly, and there were 546 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 7: just I think some things that they needed to hammer 547 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 7: out and clear up. I think that you have two 548 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 7: people who are you know, similar in age and in 549 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 7: you know, status and importance in that building in terms 550 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 7: of what they feel they contribute and what they feel, 551 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 7: you know, kind of is necessary and how to have 552 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 7: that ecosystem work. And I also think that one of 553 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 7: them is kind of revisiting his career in a way 554 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 7: where he's thinking, you know, I'm going to be a 555 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 7: coach for a lot longer now, and another one is 556 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 7: really thinking about, Okay, how much longer am I going 557 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 7: to do this? And my impression from the very jump 558 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 7: of this In April, when Ian Rappaport was the first 559 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 7: to report that Matthew Stafford was looking for more guarantees 560 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 7: on his existing contract, which Sean mcvayh confirmed that that 561 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 7: reporting was accurate. 562 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 9: You know he was. To me, it was a signal 563 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 9: almost like Matthew felt. 564 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 7: So good to this is my opinion, and kind of 565 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 7: me reading the tea leaves not just of Sean sort 566 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 7: of wanting to make sure he didn't let past failures 567 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 7: and communication lapses sneak into current and existing relationships, but 568 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 7: also on the other side of it, Matthew Stafford maybe 569 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 7: sending a signal out there saying I'm going to be 570 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 7: that dude for more years than all the rest of you, 571 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 7: not just Rams, but the rest of the league maybe 572 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 7: thinks I'm going to be because of the year that 573 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 7: he had in twenty twenty three where he was significantly, 574 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 7: you know, in the top seven, top five quarterback play 575 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 7: week after week and did elevate that roster so significantly. 576 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 7: But I think it's important too to remember in something 577 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 7: like this when you're talking not just about the financials. 578 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 9: Some of it is financial. 579 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 7: I mean, the quarterback market has inflated, and Matthew Stafford, 580 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 7: you know, who played the way that he played, he wasn't. 581 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 9: He fell to like eleven or twelve. 582 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 7: In terms of average annual And while that can be 583 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 7: skewed a little bit because he did make it like 584 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 7: what sixty five million over the course of one calendar year. 585 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 7: At one point the guarantees just maybe weren't quite where 586 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 7: they were. There's fifteen of twenty seven million guaranteed in 587 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 7: twenty twenty five, but none guaranteed in twenty twenty six, 588 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 7: and so fixing that, correcting that probably was a part 589 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 7: of the mission, but also clearing up some of the 590 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 7: language around that was probably part of the mission as well. 591 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 7: When Sean McVay was addressing communication errors and just different 592 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 7: types of things and clearing up like he said, you 593 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 7: know that he didn't want people, he didn't want to 594 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 7: think that people were not accurate, but things did need 595 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 7: to clear up, be cleared up between sort of the 596 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 7: narrative around this entire situation, which I found. 597 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: To me, I'm not that clear. I'm not that clear 598 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: nocause what is it their relationship? I thought it was 599 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: just what's interesting that you said, maybe it's a signal 600 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: to the league, not just the RAMS but also the 601 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: RAMS that he believes he can get play at a 602 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: high level for a long time, and maybe he did 603 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: not want to be in this year to year situation. 604 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: But the contract that he got guaranteed fifteen million in 605 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. That sort of slicing it down the 606 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: middle where I don't know that. 607 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 7: Was to be clear, that was the previous That was 608 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 7: the previous contract. So the point of this is that 609 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 7: the new will should it should according to an everything 610 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 7: I've heard so far, we don't have the official details. 611 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 7: That's how frenetic this came together when they realized they 612 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 7: didn't actually know a lot of the people in the 613 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 7: building didn't actually know whether he was going to show 614 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 7: up this more recording this on Tuesday morning. They didn't 615 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 7: know whether he was going to show up to camp 616 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 7: or not, or whether he was actually he could potentially 617 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 7: actually have been, you know, committing to a holdout and 618 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 7: so getting this done. I mean, Sean may Faye was 619 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 7: scheduled to talk at nine point thirty this morning, to 620 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 7: the point where the team even started playing the live 621 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 7: stream of the lectern and he just wasn't there. And 622 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 7: so then obviously that's when I texted you, Greg and 623 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 7: I was like, Hey, we're going to get ramps news today. 624 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he didn't. He didn't show up for three 625 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: more hours, and it did have a happy ending and 626 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: I guess because of the guaranteed money, it seems that 627 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: he would be there in twenty twenty five barring anything crazy. Right, 628 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: he has had his injury history, and that hangs over 629 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: all of this as it's a commendment thing too. 630 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 7: Twenty twenty six, previously not having now I'm doing taking 631 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 7: a You're being a great mentor to me, Greg, because 632 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 7: I totally. 633 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 9: Just cut you off just now. 634 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: That's great if you have the right if it's the 635 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: right time for it, don't wait. 636 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 7: So that twenty twenty six, Previously having no guaranteed money, 637 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 7: specifically in twenty twenty six of a twenty six million 638 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 7: dollar base salary. That's like a mercenary type of vibe there, 639 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 7: Like if you think you're going to be playing, you know, 640 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 7: un till near forty and maybe even beyond that. And 641 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 7: that's just again that's the tea leaves I'm reading from 642 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 7: this whole thing. Wanting that guaranteed money, then you're not 643 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 7: going to be wanting to play on a mercenary type 644 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 7: of deal. I mean that's basically one year, nothing guaranteed, 645 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 7: and then you want commitment from the team that has 646 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 7: previously positioned you as the star. 647 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 9: The franchise quarterback who made. 648 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 7: A documentary about you in the off season. I mean, 649 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 7: it just feels like some of the things that Sean 650 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 7: McVeigh was commenting on a bit openly about the non 651 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 7: financials had to do more so of like communicating needs 652 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 7: and wants in. 653 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 9: A very simple and straightforward way. 654 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: Frankly, does it change and we'll wrap on this. I 655 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: do appreciate you coming on how you think about Stafford's 656 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: future with the Rams, because that to me was it 657 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: wasn't the takeaway from today, but it was just like, oh, 658 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: this is something to watch maybe in a little more 659 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: than I thought. You know that Dak Prescott could be 660 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: out there next year, like who knows? Does this just 661 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: put the Stafford in Rams relationship a little bit more 662 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: on your radar, ironically on a day where they're committing 663 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: to him financially more. 664 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 7: I think if he would have held out, then that 665 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 7: would have been a significantly more dramatic story because there 666 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 7: are roster casualties that happen all across the ecosystem. 667 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 9: If a quarterback who. 668 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 7: Does lift the roster as much as Matthew does holds out, 669 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 7: then you're not You can't get your offense off the 670 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 7: ground and they don't have reliable backup play because Jimmy 671 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 7: Garoppolo would be you know, suspended for the first two 672 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 7: games of the season if the holdout potentially extended. So 673 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 7: I would have probably been more concerned or more flagged 674 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 7: about that. I just think that it's really interesting that 675 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 7: Sean McVay again reiterated the importance of communication and said 676 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 7: he thinks and the other thing that I flagged a 677 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 7: little bit was that he thinks that he and Matthew's 678 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 7: relationship is better for having undertaken the situation. But again, 679 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 7: like I can't emphasize enough, like all of this happened 680 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 7: Tuesday morning, over the course of three hours. Again, so 681 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 7: it's like, you know, the deadline. They seem to very 682 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 7: at that point, very much take the deadline seriously and 683 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 7: potentially avoided a fracture down the line because they're able 684 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 7: to get in a room, you know, get in a 685 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 7: room and talk talk about again simple wants and needs 686 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 7: and just wanted to I did just get it to. 687 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 7: Just wanted to clarify too. Adjusted contact adjusted contract means 688 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 7: adjusted contract. 689 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 9: Don't really know. 690 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 7: What it's going to look like in terms of year 691 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 7: over year guarantees. But it does seem like some of 692 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 7: the existing guarantees and then maybe a bump in some 693 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 7: of those existing guarantees will be moved and reallocated over 694 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 7: different courses of the contract. 695 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: Okay, we will look for that. And yeah, just a 696 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: little surprised, little little extra something. 697 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 7: On this getting spicy too, Greg throwing out, thrown out 698 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 7: a name, thrown out another name in the mix here? 699 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: Oh why not? Let's I've been saying it on this podcast. 700 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: Let's get a little more NBA like we can spend 701 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: half the season if like Stafford, like the team is 702 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: struggling a little bit, I could see it. It's like 703 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 1: Paul George and Clippers, will we leave Willy not that's 704 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: we need more of that. I feel like in the NFL, 705 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: and there's no bigger names than you could have them 706 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: Dak and Stafford. Maybe they could flip spots. I don't 707 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: think it's got to happen, but just a little fun 708 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: addition to our Tuesday show. Thank you, Jordan, little extra 709 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: Jordan on this week. And yeah, you're you're off and 710 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: running now. Training camp is training camping. 711 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 9: I'm off in sweating actually is more like it. 712 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 6: So it's good. 713 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 9: I think the longer the more I'm awake, the bigger 714 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 9: my hair expands. 715 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: So I love it all right, We'll see you next 716 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: time in the studio after the break, I talked to 717 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: the great Stacey Dales about the Chicago Bears back after 718 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: this Welcome back to NFL Daily. It's Olympics week, and 719 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: so we brought on the only Olympian I know personally 720 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: that Stacy Dale's former number three overall pick in the 721 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: w NBA Oklahoma Hall of Famer. Does it disgust you, Stacey, 722 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: to work with so many people that are so much 723 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: less athletic than you, like myself? 724 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 6: A discuss is discussed is a strong word. Greg. I 725 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 6: don't think I would go there. But you're also aging 726 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 6: me a little bit, so thank you for that. 727 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: How did I do that? 728 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 6: As my dogs come in the room? 729 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: How did I age you? I did not say when 730 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: you played in the Olympics. I did not say when 731 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: you were the number three overall pick. I just pointed 732 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: out that you are an athlete covering great athletes, and 733 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: then you got to talk to someone like myself supposedly 734 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: on an equal level. And if I were you, I 735 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: would just be thinking like give me a break. I 736 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: was big time. 737 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 6: Come on, Yeah, I mean I set the standard. I mean, 738 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 6: what else can I say? 739 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 3: No. 740 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 6: I think it's because of all the injuries that I've 741 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 6: had post career from all those years ago. But it 742 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:25,479 Speaker 6: was incredible. Olympic Week is amazing. It's amazing because there's 743 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 6: no greater plat, there's no greater galvanizing global experience uniformly 744 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 6: that is so positive than the Olympics. And it's the 745 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 6: best of the best. I mean, so for me, it's incredible, 746 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 6: and it was incredible, and it's an incredible week to 747 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 6: watch and kind of follow. 748 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, that must have been, like of all the things 749 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: you've done in your career, that has to be up 750 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: there just as a cool experience. It's a really cool 751 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: experience for me to just have you on this show. 752 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about bears, and I will point out 753 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: for anyone that's watching on YouTube that it's not just 754 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: your dog, Rudy. Now back there on the couch. You 755 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: got both dogs. We got both dogs hanging out and 756 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: they're beautiful. 757 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 6: I got more during the pandemic. Greg. Okay, so Blue, 758 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 6: she's eighty pounds eighty plus and she likes to take 759 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 6: over the bench and their sisters and Ruby is the 760 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 6: oldest to her, I have another one who's older. But 761 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 6: people liked my dogs more during the pandemic because of 762 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 6: the whole home camera thing than my actual NFL reporting, 763 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 6: So go figure. 764 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: Why not both? You know, the eye candy and then 765 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: the info and you had you were at Bear's camp 766 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: on Tuesday as we're recording this, and you've gotten to 767 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: see one of the most fascinating teams in the NFL. 768 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: I finally am happy. I'm sure you are too, as 769 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: someone that lives nearby that the Bears are actually as 770 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: interesting as the amount of attention that they get nationally 771 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: because they always get attention, they always get primetime games. 772 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: But now with Caleb Williams and a lot of optimism, 773 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: what is your feel And you've spent time with them 774 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: this off season about how Caleb's adapting. We're about four 775 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: days into camp for them. They have not started practicing 776 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: in pads yet, and then more specifically kind of like 777 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: what they're building for him, like what kind of offense 778 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: and what they want to accomplish with him in his 779 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: rookie year. 780 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. Greg, So, by the way, kudos to the Bears 781 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 6: for sending Jonathan Owens while not sending him, but you 782 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 6: mentioned to start this thing off with the Olympics to 783 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 6: watch his wife Simone Biles, which is you know, I'm 784 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 6: Canadian and Americans, so I'm rooting for her. 785 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: Congrats. By the way, a new American citizen is that. 786 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,439 Speaker 6: Yes, And she's the greatest of all time. So that's 787 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 6: just a cool storyline. But there's so many with the Bears, Greg, 788 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 6: it's the best roster we've seen in totality in Chicago 789 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 6: and at a point where I can't actually remember. I 790 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 6: mean the last time they had a total think about 791 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 6: the offense along Greg, the last time they had had 792 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 6: a total you know, top five I think it was 793 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 6: scoring offense and top five total offense was in the J. 794 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 6: Coulor days in I think twenty thirteen. 795 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: And good team. That was a decent team. 796 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 6: It was it was they had a couple of good receivers, 797 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 6: a good running back and cutt he could throw the 798 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 6: ball a little bit. This is different though. This is 799 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 6: there's a positivity being at practice, There's a there's an energy. 800 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 6: I really think this defense is the best part of 801 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 6: the whole group. Like they are spectacular and I say 802 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 6: that hesitantly because the receiving corps is spectacular. To watch 803 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 6: the ball come out of Caleb's hands, and he was 804 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 6: so good today you talk about one day they're not 805 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 6: in pads. He can change his platform in a moment's 806 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 6: notice the way he's with his arm angles, and that 807 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 6: coupled with his eyes and his ability to see the 808 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 6: field in the in the amount of time of quarterback 809 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 6: STAPs of football, it's unbelievable what they're able to do. 810 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 6: That's why your offensive line has to be really the 811 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 6: stal word of what you do, right, Greg, But you're 812 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,280 Speaker 6: talking three seconds, maybe four if you're lucky, to really 813 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 6: figure out and navigate where your reads are one, two, three, boom, boom, boom, 814 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 6: and then find the right one. He'll take the check down, 815 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 6: he'll hit the long down as I would as I 816 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 6: would say, I mean, he's going to do it all. 817 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. To me, his his tape was so fascinating to 818 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: watch because I think he was more mature than people 819 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: gave him credit for. For all the big playmaking that 820 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: he tried to do in this last season, keeping up 821 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: with a bad defense and overcoming a bad offensive line. 822 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: Maybe really not great skill position players either he barely 823 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: put the harm ball in harms away like there were 824 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: not many interceptions. There were not many near interceptions. He 825 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: made good decisions. It actually makes me think, And I 826 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: don't know how much RPO stuff they're doing here at camp. 827 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: They did a lot of RPOs in college. He's so 828 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: good throwing to the left. I can't remember a prospect 829 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: or almost any quarterback a right hand or being able 830 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: to throw to the left. And you're right, he has 831 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,439 Speaker 1: a great feel that he almost reminds me a little 832 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: bit of a tennis player. Sometimes tennis players like a 833 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: Roger Fetter is a good example on Jibor would be 834 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 1: another one. When they have so many tricks in their bag, 835 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: when they have so many different things they can do, 836 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: it can actually take them a little while to figure 837 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,479 Speaker 1: out what they should focus on and when to use 838 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 1: what trick or what club in the bag. And I 839 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: do wonder with him, do you get a feel from 840 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: him or the Bears, like, what are the focuses for 841 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: this rookie season. 842 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you're going to see a lot of 843 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 6: motion and that's part of going to be part of 844 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 6: his development. The number one thing they tried to figure 845 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 6: out this offseason with him is the cadence and delivering 846 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,720 Speaker 6: the play call and getting the play call and delivering 847 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 6: it to the huddle because he didn't have to do 848 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 6: that in college. I mean, he wasn't required to be 849 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 6: in command of you know, X, ABC, D, E, F G, X, 850 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 6: Y and Z like like all of that, all of 851 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 6: that goes into one call to make sure everybody's on 852 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 6: the same page. He's now having to do. I can 853 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 6: tell you that when he left from the mini camp 854 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 6: phase to now the training camp phase. So what is 855 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 6: that roughly a. 856 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: Month, uh, six weeks. 857 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 6: There's palpable improvement. I mean, and everybody told said told 858 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 6: me that, and everybody publicly denoted that, including head coach 859 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 6: Matt Eberflus. You know when you mentioned like the RPOs 860 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 6: and stuff. I watched him today just again call it 861 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 6: on air. Right, we're not in pads, but just just 862 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 6: a simple play action, you know, walk through kind of 863 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 6: routine drill that they were doing. The way he contorts 864 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 6: his body and is able to change on an angle. Right, 865 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 6: So he comes like you're saying, to the left, Greg, 866 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 6: he comes out to the left, he rolls out to 867 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 6: the left, and he's able to just kind of cider 868 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 6: on that thing and get his body in a very controlled, 869 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 6: yet contorted position. And that is important stuff. Patrick Mahomes 870 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 6: does that kind of stuff right, And the best part 871 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 6: about it all is his willing to work, his willingness 872 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 6: to work his fixation. As I've talked to his coach, 873 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 6: his former coach, Lincoln Riley about on his air, his 874 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 6: his you know, things that he's not perfect at or 875 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 6: you know, challenges for him or things that didn't go right, 876 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 6: mistakes that he's made. He is a grinder now. So 877 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 6: it's like anything right you might mentioned federer if you 878 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 6: are that gifted athletically and you do the things necessary 879 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 6: fundamentally to become and enhance those athletic traits and innate 880 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 6: abilities and enhance them to become this total package. Now 881 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 6: you're talking like special stuff. And so I think that's 882 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 6: what they fell in love with, and his personality has 883 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 6: backed it all up here in Chicago. 884 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, the over underwin total, you know, projected in the 885 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: Desert is eight and a half, which is the highest 886 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: they've had since since twenty nineteen. And that's it's mostly 887 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: about him, it's a little bit it's also about the 888 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 1: defense and how they finished out last year, and I 889 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: know everyone's excited about the receivers around Caleb Williams, Keenan Allen. 890 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 1: I was worried. I saw he wasn't practicing today, but 891 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,439 Speaker 1: then they said it was a veteran day. It was like, Okay, great, Yeah, 892 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: Roma Dunze is out there practicing. We know how good 893 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: Dj Moore is. Tyler Scott's made some practice, so I'm 894 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: not worried about that. I will get to my concerns 895 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: in a bit, but I want to talk to the 896 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 1: defense because that has been the identity of this team. 897 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 1: I think they've built up that secondary. Like to me, 898 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: that's if you want to see Matt Eberflus, you know 899 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Pols, their stamp on the team. It's that defense 900 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 1: where they give Jalen Johnson all that money. Tyreek Stevenson's 901 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: been good, Jakwan brisk or Kyler Gordon, that's their identity. 902 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: They have to be special. I thought Jalen Johnson was 903 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: interesting this week saying he's kind of sick of hearing 904 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,959 Speaker 1: about the potential of this team and now it's action time. 905 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,720 Speaker 1: And I do wonder what you think about that, because 906 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: like there is a lot of expectation on this team 907 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: to be good right away, but it is a rookie quarterback, 908 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: and I do think there are some issues with this 909 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 1: team that maybe aren't the case with Green Bay and 910 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: in Detroit in the same division. So how do you 911 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 1: bow how do you think they're going to balance that 912 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: all this attention hard knocks higher expectations with the reality 913 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 1: that it is a rookie quarterback. And I you know, 914 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: I don't see them as some playoff type of favorite. 915 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: I mean I don't, and so can they handle that? 916 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 6: No, Well, if I want to Before I answer that, 917 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 6: I want to come back to what you said, you 918 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,120 Speaker 6: think that maybe Detroit and Green Bay we have the 919 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 6: upper edge. I'm curious to know. 920 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: Why line play that. That would be where I start, 921 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, on both sides of the ball. I think 922 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: I always look when you're looking for surprise teams, good 923 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 1: or bad, who has the best combined offensive line defensive 924 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: And I think that's probably where Chicago's the weakest on 925 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, And so that really worries me. 926 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 1: I think you pop under the hood in some of 927 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: the numbers, like FDN Almanac, which is done by Aaron Shatz, 928 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: used to be football outsiders, like their main protection for 929 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: the Bears was six point five and partly I think 930 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: because of that line play, partly because the defense improved 931 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: so much down the stretch. They were thirtieth in the 932 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,319 Speaker 1: first half of the year sixth in the second. You 933 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: can say, yeah, they brought in Mantes sweat, but a 934 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: lot of that is interceptions. Can you keep the defense 935 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: at that high a level? And yeah, I just think 936 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: Green Bay and Detroit are more talented and they're better upfront, 937 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: and they've done it before. Then they have proven coaches too. 938 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 1: Like everyone wants to all focus on how last year 939 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: ended for eber Flus, but I think that the year 940 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: and a half before matters too, And so I think 941 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: eight and a half is a perfectly fine over under. 942 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: That sounds about right, that they're about eight or nine wins, 943 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: But that's not making it to the playoffs, Like you know, 944 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying. 945 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 6: No, this is a fascinating conversation because one one would 946 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 6: argue that if you look at Detroit and what they accomplished, right, 947 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 6: they went to the NFC Championship game. I was there 948 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,879 Speaker 6: at that game. They lost to San Francisco, who went 949 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 6: on to the Super Bowl. What happened to them in 950 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,280 Speaker 6: the second half. They couldn't stop rock Perty, They couldn't 951 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,319 Speaker 6: stop the forty nine ers offensively. The big question for 952 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 6: them is is this going to be the year with 953 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 6: all the talent they added defensively, including the youngsters to 954 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 6: the back end of their defense, you know, guys like 955 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 6: Terry and Arnold and nx Racetraw, nnes Rakestraw that you 956 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 6: know they're going to improve what has been a struggling, 957 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 6: you know, defense through the air. I would say there, yeah, 958 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 6: in this division, to me, you have to have a 959 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 6: bulldozer of a defense and the ability to run the 960 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 6: ball in cold weather, and you have a have to 961 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 6: have a dynamic quarterback. 962 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 1: I think it's just a tough division. I don't think 963 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,880 Speaker 1: the Vikings that either. And when I look at the 964 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,720 Speaker 1: line or the Bears, I see two to three question 965 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: marks on the offensive line maybe and not much pass 966 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: rush outside a sweat. On the defensive line. They were 967 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: twenty fifth in pressure rate. Other than sweat. I think 968 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: they're starting to Marcus Walker. It just they seem a 969 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: little thinner upfront, and so that that worries me. That 970 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: the case for them is just Caleb Williams covers all 971 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: that up and the eber flues, you know, glow up. 972 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 1: How he's looking very handsome and the defense is playing better. 973 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,799 Speaker 1: That it's for real and that it carries over kind 974 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: of like the lines that a year ago and that 975 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, it's not gonna it's not gonna fall. 976 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,919 Speaker 6: Back at all now and this is this is why 977 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,879 Speaker 6: it's great to be underdogs in the NFL. I think 978 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 6: any team you talk a lot of teams you talk 979 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 6: to Greg would be like, yeah, the underdogs were coming 980 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 6: after you whatever, whatever. This this this Bears team is 981 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 6: going to be different. I think there are both sides 982 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 6: of the trenches are going to be different. Right now. 983 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 6: They have a battle at center. That's one of the 984 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 6: most intriguing storylines when it comes to Ryan Bates and 985 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 6: Coleman Shelton. They are battling it out. They're trying to 986 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 6: figure out which one of those two is going to 987 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 6: be snapping the football to Caleb Williams, and so that 988 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 6: that's going to be critical. We heard from Darnell Wright, 989 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 6: who was a rookie last season, he's going to be 990 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 6: so different. Every player is, but especially I would say, 991 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 6: you know, lineman coming into their second year. As I 992 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 6: say that, Gervon Dexter is going to be a name 993 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 6: that you need to remember. He is going to have 994 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 6: a breakout campaign. He's going to be unleashed. He's going 995 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 6: to be unleashed up front. They know they need more 996 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,839 Speaker 6: push besides Monteese sweat. They do that now. 997 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: He was solid. He's a second round pick defensive tackle 998 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: who did some good things as a rookie, and so 999 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,919 Speaker 1: that is that is a good counterpoint that he could 1000 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: have a breakout year as a second year defensive tackle. Yeah. 1001 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 6: And Eric Washington, by the way, comes most recently from Buffalo. 1002 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 6: We know how good that pressure was in Buffalo, right, 1003 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 6: and has been with Sean McDermott and and Eric Washington 1004 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,200 Speaker 6: was a big part of that. So he's the new 1005 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,479 Speaker 6: defensive coordinator. We presume Flus will call the defense during 1006 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 6: the regular season. Eric Smyann kind of handling that here 1007 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 6: through the off season. So it's been a nice, nice 1008 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 6: relationship that they they've really spawned together. They have nine 1009 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 6: returning starters. Okay, you mentioned what they were good at 1010 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 6: last year, right, They got interceptions, they got takeaways, they 1011 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 6: were top five in both and they were the best 1012 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 6: run defense in football, the number one run defensive football. 1013 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 6: I asked Eric Washington, the defensive coordinator, literally today, you know, 1014 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,839 Speaker 6: what do you envision this past rush looking like? They 1015 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 6: like their depth they think I think there's some names 1016 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 6: on their roster, greg that are going to emerge. I 1017 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 6: just mentioned Jeron Dexter coming into a second season that 1018 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 6: are gonna surprise people, no different than for instance, like 1019 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 6: an Allen McNeil in Detroit, who's one of my favorite 1020 00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,880 Speaker 6: players in the league, and he's, you know, one of 1021 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 6: the best at his position. Up front, they're going to 1022 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,319 Speaker 6: rush with four and they want to rush with four consistently. 1023 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 6: What's that going to do when you're able to just 1024 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 6: rush with four, as you know, you have numbers on 1025 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 6: the back end and with the type of secondary, as 1026 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 6: he said to me, we want to be able to 1027 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 6: rush with four and take advantage of just this unbelievable 1028 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 6: secondary that they have. And that group is a monster group. 1029 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 6: Their swagger is off the charts. Brisker and Kevin Byard's 1030 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 6: new in the mix, and Kyler Gordon you mentioned Tyreek 1031 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 6: Stevenson like that group. Jalen Johnson is one of now 1032 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,800 Speaker 6: the top lockdown corners. The Bears paid him for a reason. 1033 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,919 Speaker 6: How much will he get targeted this year? How How 1034 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 6: will Jakwan brisker. 1035 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,239 Speaker 1: It be less? I have a stat for you. They 1036 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: face the lowest percentage of passes to a number one receiver. 1037 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: That just that says it all about him of any 1038 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: team in the league. That's how good he was a 1039 00:51:59,680 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: year ago. 1040 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's his technique has become so good. I 1041 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 6: think defensive backs don't get the credit they deserve when 1042 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 6: you consider technique and what they have to do to 1043 00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 6: defend every single week every Sunday. You got DeVante Adams. 1044 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 6: Now you've got Justin Jefferson. You have just named one 1045 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 6: like the best receivers in the game. Today, you got 1046 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 6: Stuff Diggs like it's it's a task. And so I 1047 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 6: just think that guys like him going to another level. 1048 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 6: With nine returning starters and a couple of emerging players, 1049 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,959 Speaker 6: I think this defense is going to be nasty this year. 1050 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: I I love it. I love the optivist. It sounds 1051 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: like you're going you think it'll be more than eight 1052 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 1: and a half wins? You think? You also live in 1053 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: Chicago and I've never met a fan or talked thought 1054 00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,319 Speaker 1: of a fan base that's more optimistic every time I'm 1055 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 1: despite evidence to the country. So I get it. They 1056 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,439 Speaker 1: now have good evidence that they actually will be good, 1057 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: and so I feel it, and you've kinda you've kind 1058 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: of convinced because the back seven on defense is fierce 1059 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,439 Speaker 1: and great continuity. It is as good as maybe any 1060 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 1: back seven of the linebackers are going to be year 1061 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: two it there's a lot to like. And then you 1062 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 1: combine that with a quarterback. To me, I'm as excited 1063 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:26,240 Speaker 1: about as anyone since Andrew Locke to come into the NFL. 1064 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 1: That's a great combo. So you're you're going over I 1065 00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,480 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm thinking like eight and nine. But they 1066 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 1: are somehow better than that, you know what I mean. 1067 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 1: Like they're a better team than they were a year ago. 1068 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,879 Speaker 1: But it just takes it takes a little more. 1069 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 6: I just I'm quick to pump the brakes at this 1070 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,759 Speaker 6: time of year and picking wins because. 1071 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 1: Okay, our reporter anyways, that's putting you into No. 1072 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 6: When I think about just this division, I think about 1073 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 6: like I think about the receiving cores and who's going 1074 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 6: to throw them the football in Minnesota like that that 1075 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 6: shoot Jordan Addison and Justin Jefferson. That that is a 1076 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 6: d mcdoo right there. Right. The offense Detroit had was 1077 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,880 Speaker 6: one of the best in the league last year. What 1078 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 6: is Green Bay gonna look like with Jeff Haffley, who 1079 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,440 Speaker 6: like under Joe Berry, I love Joe Berry, but like 1080 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,319 Speaker 6: they're gonna cut it loose under Halfley, and he is 1081 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 6: very defensive back friendly. I mean, he coached d backs 1082 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,799 Speaker 6: for a long time of a long part of his 1083 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 6: career and wants to unleash those guys and they're going 1084 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 6: to come after you up front. I think a little 1085 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,799 Speaker 6: bit differently. So it's just it's a brutal division, not 1086 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 6: unlike how brutal the AFC North is. 1087 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,320 Speaker 1: I think they're the two best divisions. You could convince 1088 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,759 Speaker 1: me either way, but I almost. 1089 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 6: I would say gruesome divisions. I think they're just they're 1090 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 6: pound for pound, they're just so gruesome, you know what 1091 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 6: I mean, Like, like look at the AFC West, right, 1092 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 6: they just float the ball all over the place in 1093 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 6: that division with Mahomes and Herbert And we'll see what 1094 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:56,880 Speaker 6: happens in Denver. 1095 00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: But like, I don't know, I love it. I love it, 1096 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,279 Speaker 1: like I love that Bears Packers, which is always the 1097 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 1: like a Sunday night game. It's like now, it's like 1098 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 1: when Stafford got to Detroit. I was so happy that 1099 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving games were just better for me that net 1100 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: because the Bears are always on and I'm always getting 1101 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 1: sold a bill of goods. But now it's it's for real. 1102 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: This kid is for real. I can't wait. You are 1103 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,919 Speaker 1: for real again. The only Olympian I know. So when 1104 00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 1: Canada and the US go against each other, I mean, 1105 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 1: in women's basketball, that's not much of a competition. I 1106 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: don't even know if Canada mad. Maybe I'm just saying 1107 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,919 Speaker 1: right now, the USA has and lost. I'm just saying, 1108 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 1: who when was the last time? They literally have never 1109 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,600 Speaker 1: lost in the Olympics. I'm saying, who do you root for? Here? 1110 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 1: They're pretty good men's basketball. That could be that could 1111 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 1: be frisky. 1112 00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:47,760 Speaker 6: That's a good question. I'm going to plead the fifth 1113 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,879 Speaker 6: on it because I just became a US citizen, so 1114 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 6: I mean, it's. 1115 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,800 Speaker 1: Pretty cool hereful Well, it's a treat to have you on, Stacey, 1116 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: and I hope to do it again throughout this season. 1117 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 1: One of your dogs is leaving the frame. That means 1118 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,760 Speaker 1: it's time for us to go. That is it for 1119 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,920 Speaker 1: NFL Daily. Looking forward to Thursday's show, we're gonna talk 1120 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,399 Speaker 1: some fantasy with Pat Darty and walso get you caught 1121 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 1: up on all the news of the day until then 1122 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 1: for Nick Schuk and Stacey Dale's We'll see you next day.