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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks? DJ. Buck

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Speaker 1: with you? Buck? How you doing, man? Man, I'm good

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Speaker 1: at DJ.

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Speaker 2: Anytime we get close to the football weekend, I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited about the college later games, but also the

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Speaker 2: NFL has a few notable games on tech.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll get to some of those games here in

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Speaker 3: a minute, but today I wanted to look ahead. We

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Speaker 3: saw some trades go down this week. We've already seen three,

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Speaker 3: you know, kind of interesting trades, including two for receivers

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Speaker 3: with DeVante Adams and Mary Cooper on the move. But

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Speaker 3: I want to make the argument today at least hear

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Speaker 3: a defense of it. Then you can go on one

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Speaker 3: side or the other of after this week with a loss,

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Speaker 3: like why should this week be the week? I think

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Speaker 3: we could make a case for some of these teams

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Speaker 3: that it's not too early to start looking to next

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Speaker 3: year and start trying to accumulate some assets, get some

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Speaker 3: draft picks. So I want to run through a list

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Speaker 3: of teams, Buck, as we start off, and you tell

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Speaker 3: me what they loss this week. I'm not saying they're

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Speaker 3: a hopeless team. But I'm saying, let's be honest with

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Speaker 3: where we are and should we consider selling you.

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Speaker 2: Ready, seven seven weeks in, we're already talking about seventeen season.

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Speaker 1: But it's a seven game But on the season after

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Speaker 3: Okay, And some of them are tricky, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: tell you why this first one that I'm going to

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Speaker 3: give you. The New England Patriots are currently in last

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Speaker 3: place at one in five. I would argue, you can't

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Speaker 3: sell off any assets because you have a quarterback and

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Speaker 3: its infancy with Drake May. You have to do whatever

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Speaker 3: got to get that plane off the runway, buck, So

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Speaker 3: we can't take any resources away.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what assets they have to

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Speaker 2: sell off on offense that that could that could help.

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Speaker 1: Let me who were selling on. They're down at the

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Speaker 2: I think what they are, and I think Jerimeo has

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Speaker 2: kind of confirmed as like they're a couple seasons away

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Speaker 2: from being what they want to be. I don't think

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Speaker 2: if you're the Pages you can turn down anything that

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Speaker 2: has significance when it comes to what you can get

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Speaker 2: in return for draft capital. H there aren't any sacred cows,

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Speaker 2: as they would say, outside of the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if there's anybody, I will say, no,

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Speaker 3: How about the defense though, Like I mean, because somebody

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't trade. You know, Hunter Henry, who's a kind

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Speaker 3: they've got a one or two functional offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: Like, I'm not doing anything on the offensive side of

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Speaker 3: If you want to, if you want to cherry pick

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Speaker 3: someone off of our defense, you know, I'd be willing

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Speaker 3: you can't. I just don't think you can deplete the

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Speaker 1: I mean, now you've got to give him somebody to

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Speaker 2: Doing the preparation for the game, they played five different

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Speaker 2: You talked about Hunter Henry being a guy, but maybe

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Speaker 2: Have to be in let's get better mode at all times,

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Speaker 2: and depending on the player that you want versus what

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Speaker 3: The next one is pretty obvious because they've already started

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Speaker 2: But you're stuck with a quarterback that is making a

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Speaker 3: Well, there is something you can do, though, because I'll

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Speaker 2: So we're talking about tanking. Basically, we're talking about get

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Speaker 3: I don't know that they have to try to take

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Speaker 2: to you not a three time Pro bowler, You don't

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Speaker 1: That s it.

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Speaker 2: It spent a long time since we've seen him play

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Speaker 2: And I would say the apathy that he displays when

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Speaker 1: It is very defeated. Is very defeated when you want

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Speaker 2: And how do you see hope to the people of

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Speaker 2: body language is bad and it doesn't appear not saying

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Speaker 1: Man. That's a hard sale, man, it's a horror seal.

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Speaker 1: Every weekend is a hard seal.

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Speaker 2: If we pull people aside in the locker room, it's

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Speaker 1: He's the guy that can get it done.

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Speaker 3: Based on Howard's play, I feel and I made the

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Speaker 3: But whatever mock draft you do, everybody should pencil in

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Speaker 3: They have to get somebody else in that spot, and

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Speaker 3: the money that Deshaun making. So I look, they've already

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Speaker 1: But I would imagine they'll get a lot of calls

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Speaker 3: So we're we're in the same camp on Cleveland, So

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Speaker 1: I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: You can't talk about you can't talk about the Patriots

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Speaker 1: I mean, we have to go, h DJ.

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Speaker 1: You already saw the trade. We're Robinson Harrison those away.

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Speaker 3: What was your take on that? By the way, give

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Speaker 2: We've heard Gina Ariam, the coach from Yukon, talk about

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he wasn't about it, but I

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Speaker 1: Net, we're trading people for twenty twenty six ad Digital

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Speaker 2: That is base basically giving giving a player away for

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Speaker 2: you want him on your team. You don't have high

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Speaker 1: You're just trying to get him out of the building. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 2: The only reason here's why. I will say that if one,

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Speaker 2: would say Christian Kirk and Trevor Lawrence are in lockstep.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, what about on the defensive side of the ball?

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Speaker 3: Buck is A how is Devin Lloyd played this year?

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Speaker 3: I'm watching the tape, it looks like he's got some

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Speaker 1: But you're seeing them each in every week, So that

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Speaker 2: He has shown inconsistent effort when it comes to playing.

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Speaker 2: he would certainly be one that is a prime candidate

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Speaker 3: A first run pick. Yeap, that makes sense. We'll see

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Speaker 1: Let's go last team again.

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Speaker 3: We don't need to spend long here because the Raiders

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're two and four, but I still think

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Speaker 1: It's probably not a bad way to go.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not a bad way to go, and they

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Speaker 2: need to acknowledge it bad that. Hey man, we not

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Speaker 2: then defensively, they have some some some intriguing players. I

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Speaker 2: Tyree Wilson hasn't been what anyone who.

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Speaker 1: Would have wanted him to be.

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Speaker 2: And when you take a project as opposed to a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see how you wouldn't come to that conclusion.

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Speaker 3: That's the that's the AFC side there with teams that

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Speaker 3: we think should be selling. Let's pause, take a quick break,

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Speaker 3: we come back. We'll get into these NFC teams and

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Speaker 3: get into that writer for this, all right, Buck, the

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Speaker 3: New York Giants, I'm going to say no on that one. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: there's still pressure on that group to win right now.

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Speaker 3: They've been competitive. You know, Gosh Neighbors not being in

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Speaker 3: him back. Hopefully this upcoming week that changes their offense

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Speaker 3: a little bit. They're two and four, but it's a

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Speaker 3: doesn't feel like they're that's a total loss. Cause at

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Speaker 2: If I am the New York Giants and I'm Brian

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Speaker 2: daveall I am fighting like the Dickens to make sure

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Speaker 2: we don't get into.

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Speaker 1: The auction mode. Look at the division.

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Speaker 2: That division is dead to be stolen, and I don't

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Speaker 2: To me, the best team in the Division of Washington Commanders,

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Speaker 2: Cowboys and Men. The phillydefa Eagles can't get right. Some

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Speaker 2: of the immaturity that he displays as a leader. If

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian, I'm standing in front of the team every

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Speaker 2: play hard on defense, we can be right there in

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Speaker 2: the end. I am not selling off. I'm still selling

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Speaker 2: That was brutal. That's a big steep drop off for

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Speaker 2: let's keep it, keep it scooting here. There's nobody in

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Speaker 2: the NFC North. Everybody's has got four wins. Uh.

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Speaker 3: With the Vikings, with five wins and nobody's selling their

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't again, I don't know what what

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Speaker 3: what do you have?

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Speaker 1: Nothing? I mean, everybody's available.

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Speaker 2: I mean the guy that you thought was your franchise guy,

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Speaker 1: And Bryce Young.

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Speaker 2: You got the bump immediately by putting Andy Dalton in,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: When you're one to five and you're playing the way

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Speaker 1: Look mean you look on every rock for a player,

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Speaker 3: If I'm going to give Carolina some good news here

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Speaker 3: so you've got him, You've got Lagett, who has made

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Speaker 3: So it looks like this, you know, recent draft class

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Speaker 3: hit one more. The Rams. I don't know that many

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Speaker 1: What do you think I.

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Speaker 2: Think, I sand Pat and whole firm one the Rams

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Speaker 2: kind of food is last year because last year should have.

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Speaker 1: Been part of their rebuilding year, but they outperformed.

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Speaker 2: I would say the roster that they had this year

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Speaker 1: I'm not changing. I'm not deviating from the formula.

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Speaker 2: I like the team that I've had because injuries have

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Speaker 3: Do you hear about Brandon Fisk and how he's been working,

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Speaker 3: The other fascinating part it's not the division. We kind

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Speaker 3: to take that, DJ, and I'm loving those things that

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Speaker 1: Buckle. Let's get to the game of the week here.

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Speaker 1: We always look at one game every week, and we

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Speaker 1: I got you, man, It's not for the game of

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Speaker 2: Were sent about Draft Kings Sportsbook this week it is

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Speaker 2: the division. The Detroit Lions, who we expected to be there.

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Speaker 2: We had the rankings early. We talked about the Vikings

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Speaker 2: maybe having the widest championship window of any team in

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Speaker 2: the league. They're proving that the loss of eight and

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Speaker 2: Hutchinson certainly hurts their defense. But man, you talk about

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Speaker 2: two teams that appear to be built the right way.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he gets any better than watching

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Speaker 2: Detroit in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Square at all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a couple interesting nuggets. Getting ready for this

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Speaker 3: one and looking at it from the next gen stats stuff.

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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold completed just two to ten passes fifty three

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Speaker 3: yards against the Jets man coverage in Week five, after

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Speaker 3: having led the NFL in yards per attempt touchdown passes

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Speaker 3: in total EPA against man coverage through the first four

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Speaker 3: weeks of the season. Curious to see how the Lions

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Speaker 3: defense is going to choose to play that. And then

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Speaker 3: another one here. The Vikings defense is used six man

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Speaker 3: fronts league high thirty five point nine percent of snaps

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Speaker 3: this season, more than double the rate of the next

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Speaker 3: closest team. So it'll be interesting to see in a

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Speaker 3: game where I'm fully expecting a Dan Campbell coach Detroit

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Speaker 3: Lions team to come out and try and mash trying

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Speaker 3: to come out and establish the line of scrimmage and

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Speaker 3: a physicality in this ballgame. The Vikings have ways to

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Speaker 3: combat that, not just you know, one on one defeating blocks,

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Speaker 3: but just with sheer numbers and you can you can

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Speaker 3: confuse people, you can shoot gaps and try and play.

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Speaker 3: They have to use their quickness and play on the

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Speaker 3: other side of the line of scrimmage against a big, mauling,

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Speaker 3: physical offensive line.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting in looking at the Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 1: and studying their defense the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: You're right, you won't necessarily fight fire with fire, You'll

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Speaker 2: fight fire.

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Speaker 1: With aggression and smoking mirrors.

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Speaker 2: When it comes to their defense, Brian Floores continues to

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Speaker 2: be one step ahead of the posse when it comes

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Speaker 2: to defending people. The mix of like all out pressure

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Speaker 2: disguises with a little bluff and bait game that he's

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Speaker 2: playing in terms of whether we continue to blitz, whether

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Speaker 2: we back out, play a bunch of different zones. They

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Speaker 2: have all that, and you know, the one thing that

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Speaker 2: we haven't seen a team really do is knock the

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Speaker 2: lines behind the sticks on early downs and forced Jerry

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Speaker 2: Golf to be a drop back passer as opposed to

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Speaker 2: a play action passer, because it's different.

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Speaker 1: He is deadly when he's able to.

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Speaker 2: Operate on time, on schedule and use the play action

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Speaker 2: pass to create big length, big voids in the defense

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Speaker 2: and he targets them. But if it becomes a drop

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Speaker 2: back game where everyone knows it's an obvious passing situation

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Speaker 2: and now you can heat them up without having to

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Speaker 2: worry about Gibbs and Montgomery, game tilts towards the Vikings,

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Speaker 2: and I think you could probably say the same for

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Speaker 2: the Detroit lines if they're facing Sam Donald.

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Speaker 1: Take away the play action game by bottling up the.

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Speaker 2: Run early, taking away the easy so they're not on schedule,

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Speaker 2: and then make Sam Donald have to play a traditional

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Speaker 2: drop back style of quarterback. It comes down to both

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks in which one plays well, but a lot of

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Speaker 2: it will be dictated by the success of those defenses

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Speaker 2: on those early down situations.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that's fascinating to me from a

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Speaker 3: scheme standpoint is that you think about all those looks

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Speaker 3: where the Viking's going to throw everybody up the line

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Speaker 3: of scrimmage. You talked about the play action working for Detroit.

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Speaker 3: One of the reasons why that is is because they

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Speaker 3: manipulate the second level of the defense, they're able to

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Speaker 3: pull that second level up and they're able to work

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Speaker 3: behind them. When you have everybody there is no second

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Speaker 3: level of the defense doesn't exist, and you've got droppers,

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Speaker 3: So you've got droppers that are predetermined that they're going

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Speaker 3: to drop.

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Speaker 1: So in some ways, I think it's a good way.

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Speaker 1: It's a good it's a good scheme to have against

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Speaker 1: a team like this because your droppers, knowing they've got

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Speaker 1: to get out of there, they're not going to be

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Speaker 1: caught coming back up. They're going to be bailing and

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Speaker 1: getting out of there.

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Speaker 3: So I think you might have a little more you know,

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Speaker 3: a defined look there as opposed to.

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Speaker 1: Them being able to manipulate you. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what they do and what the Vikings Vikings

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Speaker 2: do is they dictate the terms to you. They shrinked

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Speaker 2: your playbook by putting everybody up there and DJ like

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Speaker 2: up here, like there's there's a high school team who

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Speaker 2: used to do a team called Valencia, which is where

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Speaker 2: you remember many white they played for.

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Speaker 1: The Washington team. He played up there. There have been

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Speaker 1: some other guys that have come out of there. I

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Speaker 1: think I go to Arizona State, right.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, he played it a you said lay, but they

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Speaker 2: put seven up at the line of scrimmage, and you

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Speaker 2: got to spend your whole time thinking are they coming?

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Speaker 1: Are they not coming? It really changes your thought process.

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Speaker 2: And what the Vikings have done is they have taken

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Speaker 2: that to the nth degree because they have acquired a

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Speaker 2: bunch of old school veterans who played a lot of football.

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Speaker 2: So when you got Stefan Gilmore and some of those

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Speaker 2: other guys, Harrison Smith, those guys, Check Griffin, they can

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Speaker 2: kind of get in and out and do a bunch

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Speaker 2: of different think it's a very difficult.

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Speaker 1: Scheme to go at. That's it. The Detroit lines are

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Speaker 1: so explosive because they're personnel.

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Speaker 2: When they get the ball in the hands of Saint

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Speaker 2: Brown and Jameson Gamium, Gibbs and those guys on the

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Speaker 2: perimeter problematic.

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Speaker 1: It's a great game to watch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a game of the week, no question.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to that one. I think I ended

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Speaker 3: up picking Minnesota, but I look, this could go either

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Speaker 3: way and they and really what has been clearly the

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Speaker 3: best division in football, the NFC North. We talked about

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Speaker 3: it before the season, the NFC North and the AFC

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Speaker 3: North are the best two divisions. Well, the NFC North

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Speaker 3: has more more than lived up to it. The AFC

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Speaker 3: worth Ah, yeah, not exactly, not exactly what we thought

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Speaker 3: it was going to be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not at all.

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Speaker 3: Well, there you go. That's the game of the week.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to that one. Lions Vikings will be back tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: We got another episode coming your way. We will look

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Speaker 3: at the contenders. We talked a lot about kind of

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Speaker 3: those last place teams today buy or sell, where are

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Speaker 3: they at in their windows?

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow? We will look at the teams at the top,

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Speaker 1: and we'll have a little draft here. We'll draft the

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Speaker 1: contenders on tomorrow's episode. Be on the lookout for that.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time right here on Move the

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