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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory. I'm Channeler

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Speaker 2: Roam along with Tyler Stafford, coming to you. After the

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Speaker 2: Astros lost four to two to finish off an otherwise

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Speaker 2: encouraging road trip through Cleveland and Pittsburgh. They have won

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Speaker 2: eleven of their past sixteen games, and they are guaranteed

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Speaker 2: to enter Monday at least two and a half games

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Speaker 2: up in a division that Tyler is showing itself to

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Speaker 2: be very mediocre. That the Mariners have not played well

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Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks, I cannot believe personally that

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Speaker 2: the Rangers hiring a podcast host to be their hitting

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Speaker 2: coach has not gone well. And the A's are just

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Speaker 2: miserable in a minor league ballpark. This is a bad division.

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Speaker 2: The Astros have clearly shown that if they play to

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Speaker 2: their potential that they can be the best team in

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Speaker 2: this division. They can win this division.

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Speaker 1: Not easily.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna think it's gonna be a dogfight, but this

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Speaker 2: is this is certainly a winnable division that they have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the schedule gets a lot easier for the

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Speaker 3: Astros in the next month or two as well. So

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Speaker 3: some more good chances to pile up some wins, which

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Speaker 3: they've been doing. You know, they've been beating the teams

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Speaker 3: that they're supposed to beat. They went on the road,

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Speaker 3: took two series against I mean, the Pirates are not

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Speaker 3: that you know, you take on the road, and you

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Speaker 3: take those, you move on. And Yeah, the Bangrafs has

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Speaker 3: the Astros right now at sixty two percent to win

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Speaker 3: the division, which I mean even at their lowest, like

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Speaker 3: a month ago, it was still like twenty thirty percent,

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Speaker 3: just because there was so much season left. But they

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Speaker 3: they have started, you know, to build a lead in

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Speaker 3: that division.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ten of their next thirteen games are against the White Sox,

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Speaker 2: the A's, and the Angels, which is advantageous. The three

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Speaker 2: tougher games in there against the Minnesota Twins are all

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Speaker 2: at Dyke And Park, which should give them at least

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Speaker 2: somewhat of an advantage. But because they've played well at

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Speaker 2: home this year, unlike years pass where they have not

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Speaker 2: played well at home. Three games against the Guardians pretty

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Speaker 2: much all carbon copies of one another. Low scoring, good pitching,

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Speaker 2: have to manufacture some runs, some aggressive base running, some athleticism,

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Speaker 2: some excellent defense all three games. Tyler, what impressed you?

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Speaker 2: What impressed you about these three games against the Guardians

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Speaker 2: this series went.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked after Dubon got the two outfield assists

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Speaker 3: in the first inning of that game, no one on

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Speaker 3: either side ran on any ball hit to left field

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Speaker 3: the rest of the series. I guess they just figured, well,

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Speaker 3: we saw it happen twice, so not gonna make that

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Speaker 3: mistake again. I think Christian Walker had one hit out

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Speaker 3: there and he stopped at first as well. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: really good defense. That catch by Jacob Meldon was insane.

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Speaker 3: I don't I mean, I don't believe forty five percent

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Speaker 3: catch probability. That's what somebody. Somebody said, get out of here.

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Speaker 3: That was awesome. It was a great catch, like you said,

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Speaker 3: really really good defense all around, great pitching. I mean today,

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Speaker 3: Asher's got a great start from I mean, we keep

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Speaker 3: saying it, but they're just throwing darts at the dartboard

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Speaker 3: and whoever wants to come up from double A and

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Speaker 3: triple A. You know, when you get a quality start

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Speaker 3: out of a spot start, guy. I mean, our last

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Speaker 3: podcast was about the farm system and how there's nobody

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Speaker 3: have fifteen guys that can come up and provide, you know,

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Speaker 3: a little bit of help, which in the current iteration

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Speaker 3: of the team is exactly what you need to be fair,

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Speaker 3: Brandon Walter was signed US this past winter on a

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Speaker 2: He is not a product of the farm system. But

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Speaker 2: I do wonder, Tyler, you think he gets another start

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Speaker 2: because they're about right, they're about to enter thirteen games

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Speaker 2: in a row after Monday's off day. Dana Brown said

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Speaker 2: on the pregame show today that they're gonna go to

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Speaker 2: a six man rotation. To me, like Brandon Walter has

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Speaker 2: they've set him up in good situations. But you look

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Speaker 2: at what he's done in the PCL, like he has

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Speaker 2: nothing more to prove in the minor leagues, and I

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Speaker 2: turn this rotation. Joe a Spot seemed a little less

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Speaker 2: Walter certainly deserves another start.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so too.

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Speaker 3: I mean you can't really argue with six innings two runs.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's you'll take that every time. So untill

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Speaker 3: he stops doing that, I think that's your guy in

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Jacob Melton. Does he have maybe the most

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Speaker 2: like a guy that is three for twenty with eight punchouts.

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Speaker 2: Like the defense has been as advertised. He is fast

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Speaker 2: Alvarez remain on the IL. I'm not saying he's going

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Speaker 2: put Melton in right field. I know, as much as

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Speaker 2: that would pain you, they can. They obviously all two

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Speaker 2: v's not going to be out there every day in

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Speaker 2: those three guys are on the il, and if he

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Speaker 2: it opens up a lot of doors for them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and did you know he hits left handed?

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm wondering.

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Speaker 3: If a spot is aware of that as well. I

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean I agree.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I even knew that he was three

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Speaker 3: He's he's putting together good at bats. You know, those

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Speaker 3: hits will fall, but he's he's look good again. Another

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Speaker 3: guy that's just all right, here you go this, this

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Speaker 3: guy's ready to go. See what happens. Well, yeah, they

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Speaker 3: really haven't had anybody come up so far this year

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Speaker 3: and just fully embarrassed themselves that is currently on the team.

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Speaker 3: That's a that's a caveat.

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Speaker 2: I thought Sparky, I thought Sparky had an interesting like

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Speaker 2: I can see why he gets hurt all the time

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Speaker 2: because he's throwing his body everywhere.

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Speaker 1: And I mean that's how you like, That's what you

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Speaker 2: See from guys like he had his reckless abandoned like

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's in the big leagues now, he's got

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Speaker 2: to he's got to prove his worth. But like it is,

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Speaker 2: it is fun to see. And I think this dovetails

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Speaker 2: into a bigger point Tyler, And this was something that

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Speaker 2: last year, I know Joe Aspota mentioned at points last

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Speaker 2: thing that this Astros team has that last year certainly

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Speaker 2: didn't and the ones previously they're athletic and they're like energetic,

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Speaker 2: like you see Melton cam Smith is obviously a bundle

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Speaker 2: Myers having the great year he's having with his speed,

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Speaker 2: like is it is more fun to watch this team

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they've they've been moving all over the place.

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Speaker 3: Like you said, lots are great defense. You mentioned Sparky

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Speaker 3: Melton made that play in right field, Blum in tk's

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Speaker 3: camera cut to Melton just going like, I hope he's okay, Like.

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Speaker 4: I hope he's all right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he never showed any sign of being in pain,

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Speaker 3: but they spent a good bit putting good vibes out

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Speaker 3: they've been they've been a fun team to watch that.

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Speaker 3: The pitching has been good too, so you know that

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Speaker 3: that lends itself to good baseball games to watch. But

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Speaker 3: you're right, there's a younger vibe, there's a more athletic

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And we always kind of roll our eyes in

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Speaker 2: spring training when the manager comes out and says we

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Speaker 2: want to be more aggressive on the basis this year,

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Speaker 2: give Tony Paris Chica the new base running instructor give

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Speaker 2: Myers getting on base more. Part of that is Jeremy

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Speaker 2: Panya getting on base more. But it's guys like Iak Paradus,

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Speaker 2: like jose Al Tuve as we know, will take chances

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Speaker 2: really hard and aggressive because they have to. Because this lineup,

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Speaker 2: as it is shown, is not one that's going to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's been working. Like we said.

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Speaker 3: You know, they've they've been in a really good run

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Speaker 3: here and hopefully then they can carry that over in

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Speaker 3: these weaker teams that they're going to see in the

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Speaker 3: next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll see. You'll see the Chicago White Sox the

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Speaker 2: next three days. That well, it's some revenge series, I think.

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Speaker 2: Remember the White Sox did take two of three from

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Speaker 2: against the Pale Hose.

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Speaker 3: Oh, for sure, they've been. They've had it circling on

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Speaker 3: the calendar. These fools are not gonna beat us again.

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Speaker 4: But we'll see.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's classic Astros dude, a rise to harder

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Speaker 4: So who knows.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we've been hyping up these eleven games over the

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Speaker 3: next two weeks or whatever, and they're gonna go four

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Speaker 3: and nine, So we'll see. But the team's playing well

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Speaker 3: right now. I don't see that happening. They've been really

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Speaker 3: good over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the best and most consistent stretch of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's been unbelievable so far this year.

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Speaker 4: And it's not like Jeremy Pane is a nobody.

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Speaker 3: It's not like it's going to be difficult to put

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Speaker 1: You know, look, they have a fan vote for that.

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Speaker 2: we just saw we just saw that Jeremy Payna card.

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Speaker 1: And who are you going to get out of this

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Speaker 3: Abode well for a competition against Bobbywood Junior, another superstar son.

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Speaker 4: So that's pretty sick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great, car, I don't I used to when I

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Speaker 2: He had become a mop up reliever the last three

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean one I would push back and say

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Speaker 3: He's still young, you know, relatively young compared to me.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, Tyler, I can't imagine he goes unclaimed.

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Speaker 2: pro rated portion of his salary, which is the minor

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Speaker 2: league which is the major league minimum. So again, even

436
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: these teams that are cost conscious, it's a free look

437
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Speaker 2: at a guy that was a top fifteen pick. At

438
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Speaker 2: one point, it was one point the best pitching prospect

439
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,959
Speaker 2: in baseball. Tyler, let's go. Let's reflect back a little bit.

440
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Speaker 2: I wasn't on the beat when the Astros drafted Whitley.

441
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Speaker 1: I I got.

442
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: I started on the beat in the spring of twenty

443
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 2: eighteen when Whitley, I think, had just incurred the drug suspension.

444
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 2: Can you take me back to what the hype was

445
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Speaker 2: like about him? Because I only got a little bit

446
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 2: of the hype. I didn't get the full fledged from

447
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: the moment they drafted him and everyone, and you know,

448
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 2: he was in Double A by the time he was nineteen.

449
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Speaker 1: What was the hype life for him?

450
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Speaker 4: It's big Man.

451
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: Again, the Astros had and had a really noticeable pitching

452
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 3: prospect like that, because you know, Marko pell was flaming out.

453
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: You know, Lance mccullors was already up in the big leagues.

454
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Speaker 3: And the other thing that I think hurt Whitley was

455
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Speaker 3: this was the first draft pick that the Astros had

456
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Speaker 3: that wasn't in the top five picks. So everyone just

457
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 3: expected whoever the Astros took first in the first round

458
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 3: was going to be some superstar level talent, and again

459
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 3: Whitley had that. It's not like it was just Astros

460
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: fans hyping up Whitley. He was a consensus, very very

461
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Speaker 3: high prospect. And coming from San Antonio too, that's always

462
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Speaker 3: fun when you can get somebody from Texas. That means

463
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 3: a lot to people in Texas. And you know, you

464
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 3: watched highlights of him in the the Alamo Dome for

465
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 3: you know, his playoff run and stuff in high school.

466
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Speaker 3: People were pumped man. And then like you said, I

467
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: mean he shot up the minor leagues. I mean he

468
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Speaker 3: he was doing really, really well before, like you said,

469
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Speaker 3: the suspension and then just injuries took over and he

470
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 3: never was able to put it back together. And it

471
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Speaker 3: was it was rough. I mean anytime you saw him pitch,

472
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Speaker 3: it was like, oh yeah, this is a this is

473
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Speaker 3: a real guy. Like, this guy can throw hard, he's huge.

474
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Speaker 3: His strikeout numbers were always absurd in the minor leagues,

475
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Speaker 3: like even now he has twelve point four strikeouts per

476
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: nine in the minor leagues. But I mean he doesn't

477
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Speaker 3: have a single one in Baseball Reverence under ten at

478
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Speaker 3: at any affiliate other than you know one or two

479
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 3: that he was there for like a day. So yeah,

480
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: I mean people were pumped for Forrest Whitley. It looked

481
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Speaker 3: like a guy that Okay, this guy's gonna come up

482
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 3: and you can count on him, you know, being there

483
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,719
Speaker 3: every third day for a long time, and it just

484
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 3: never happened. But the hype was there for for a

485
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 3: good while until the last you know year or two

486
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 3: when it when it really started to fall off. But yeah,

487
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 3: it's it's it's sad to see you. You want these

488
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Speaker 3: guys to be successful. There's you know, no hard feelings,

489
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: certainly on my end anyway. Maybe the YouTube comments will

490
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 3: have different opinions, but you wanted him to succeed and

491
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Speaker 3: it just didn't happen.

492
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Speaker 2: A couple like things I wanted to spell really quickly

493
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Speaker 2: because we often say drug suspension. I think there's a

494
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Speaker 2: lot of people that equate that to performance enhancing drugs.

495
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 2: Fortunately did not get suspended for a PED. He got

496
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Speaker 2: suspended for a drug of abuse. We to this day,

497
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Speaker 2: I do not know what drug he got suspended for,

498
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: but it was he did not he did not take steroids,

499
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: or at least he did not test positive for steroids.

500
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Speaker 2: This was not a PED suspension. So let's get that

501
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Speaker 2: out of the way first, Tyler. I think another thing

502
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 2: this show is, like I think a lot of people forget,

503
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: like Fores Whitley was seventeen years old when I drive. Yeah, Like,

504
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 2: and you mentioned like how well he's handled this, you

505
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 2: know recently. I don't think that was always the case.

506
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 2: And Forest Whitley, you know, I wrote a story. He

507
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: was very candid in his comments to me about a

508
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: month ago, calling himself an embarrassment, saying it's an embarrassment

509
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: every time he go he goes on the injured list,

510
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: feeling like he's let a lot of people down. And

511
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: talking to him for that story and remembering when I

512
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: talked to him, like at first in twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen,

513
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: it was like talking to a different person, and at

514
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 2: one point like we actually started discussing this, and I

515
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 2: don't know how much of it made the story, but

516
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 2: like it's really tough to grow up essentially, like in

517
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: the public eye. And look, he got three point two

518
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: million dollars, He signed for three point two million dollars,

519
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: Like money is great, and like he got paid handsomely

520
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 2: to grow up in the public, public eye. But like

521
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 2: that doesn't make it easy. And I think Forest Whitley

522
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: had a lot lot of like maturing to do, and

523
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: I think he did that, Like he really did. He

524
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: got a lot more mature from the day he stepped

525
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: into this professional organization until you know, Sunday when he

526
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: when he got designated for assignment. I think that gets

527
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: forgotten a lot with these guys, like especially guys that

528
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: get drafted out of high school, Like these are still

529
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 2: kids when they get drafted. And you give a kid,

530
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: you know, three point two million dollars and you tell him,

531
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: for the first year and a half he's in pro

532
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: ball that you're the best pitching prospect that anybody's ever seen.

533
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 2: Nolan Ryan's out here giving quotes that like he's one

534
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 2: of the better high school arms he's ever seen.

535
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: Like that inflates you a little bit and it's.

536
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 2: Really hard to just grow up in the public eye,

537
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 2: for lack of a better word, and I think I

538
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: think more fans should maybe be I don't want to

539
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: say empathetic, because again, the money is there. You get

540
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: paid handsomely to do this. But before you just automatically

541
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: to criticize, automatically to to say some things that that

542
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 2: are like your first blush things you want to say,

543
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: just remember that these are human beings too, and that

544
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: it's really hard to do this with an entire industry

545
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: looking at you, an entire organization looking at you.

546
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: It's a hard job.

547
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: And Force Whitley credit to him because he matured a

548
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: lot in the last two.

549
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 1: Or three years in the Ashers organization.

550
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

551
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 3: I think another thing that fans will remember too is,

552
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 3: you know, during all of the trade talks throughout his

553
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 3: prospect status, you know, the astras would routinely say, look,

554
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 3: there's only two untouchable guys. It's Force Whitlay and Kyle Tucker.

555
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 3: And then Kyle Tucker comes up and becomes a superstar.

556
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: He's gonna get four hundred million dollars this offseason, and

557
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: so I think that equates a lot of that as

558
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: well of like this guy also should be able to

559
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: perform that way. And I mean looking back, like, yeah,

560
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 3: he should have been untouchable at the time, you know,

561
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: like he was a first round pick.

562
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: He threw just crazy stuf.

563
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: I get why he was untouchable, but I think that's

564
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 3: another reason that that fans you know, hyped him up

565
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 3: in the same way. And again I don't just mean fans,

566
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 3: like he was universally regarded as one of the better

567
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: prospects in baseball and it just didn't didn't work out.

568
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: I mean, he missed three seasons, you know, one was

569
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: COVID and then suspension and injury, so he basically didn't

570
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: play from the end of twenty nineteen to twenty twenty two,

571
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: you know, I mean he missed the good chunk of development.

572
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: You know, we'll see what happens, but hopefully, you know,

573
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: like we said, he'll be able to stick somewhere.

574
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 4: I mean, there's another.

575
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: Very tall pitcher who threw really hard that didn't put

576
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 3: it together until he was twenty seven. So watch out

577
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 3: world for the Randy Johnson era of Forrest Whitley's career

578
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: as that comes on the back.

579
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: Now you said you heard it here first, the right handed,

580
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: the right handed Randy Johnson is coming to your organization, suit.

581
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: Can we marvel very quickly that Jeff Luno acquired Justin Verlander,

582
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: Garrett Cole, and Zach Grinky when Forest Whitley still had cachet.

583
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: Forest Whitley was still like a dude when the when

584
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: he acquired those three guys. That he was able to

585
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 2: acquire those three pitchers without giving up Whitley or Tucker

586
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: remains incredible.

587
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: And good news. The Astros still have someone from the

588
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 3: first round of the twenty sixteen drafts on their roster.

589
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 4: Would you like to know who it is?

590
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: Twenty sixteen draft on the twenty six man currently, No,

591
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: but they have him in the organization. It's Taylor Tremmel,

592
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: drafted in the compground of round one of twenty sixteen,

593
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: So watch out replacing one.

594
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 4: With the other.

595
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: That ended up not being a good draft, right you?

596
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean yeah, Mickey Maniac went number one. I

597
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 3: mean there's really nobody in the time up draft at all.

598
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 3: The best player from that draft in the first round

599
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: was the Dodgers' second pick in the first round. Will

600
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 3: Smith said, Gavin Lux twentieth A couple spots after the

601
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: Ashers took Whitley. But yeah, Will Smith really ended up

602
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: being the only major league regular there really had anybody

603
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: from that draft worth worth much.

604
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: So at least the Astros can take solace in that.

605
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 4: And then it was bad. It was a bad draft.

606
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: Mike Trout after Yeah, it's not like Mike Trout went

607
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: two picks after for Swithly and we're here like still

608
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 2: discussing that.

609
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: Let's hear from our friends at foul.

610
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: Territory one more time and then we'll talk about the

611
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Speaker 2: rotation going forward.

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Speaker 1: It all, right, Tyler.

626
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 2: Ryan Gusto is going to start on Wednesday against the

627
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Speaker 2: White Sox. He is, He's listed as the team starter,

628
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: so that means he's he's going to go out there.

629
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: It is not going well for him the last five

630
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: or six starts. The Astros are zero to four in

631
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: his last four starts. Some of that is not his fault.

632
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: They scored zero runs in his last start. Uh, Gusto

633
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: can't swing the bat, but we know, of we know.

634
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 4: Let him try.

635
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: Lance mccullors has a World Series RBI, so let's let's

636
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 2: get him in the Let's get him. I think he

637
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: bats left handed too, doesn't he sure? I think I

638
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: think mccullor's I think you're right. I think he is

639
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: a left handed hitter. So if Melton, if Melton is

640
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: one of those days off for his back, Yeah, that's

641
00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: what it is.

642
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: D H. McCully.

643
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: I wonder how long the leash is here with Ryan Gusso.

644
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: We talked about earlier that Brandon Walter pretty much deserves

645
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: a spot in the rotation, but if they're going to

646
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: expand it to six, that still leaves Gusto's spot as

647
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: one that they have to take. So he's gonna pitch

648
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, on Wednesday, excuse me, against a really bad

649
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: White Sox team. It's a it's an opportunity for him

650
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: to keep his spot in the rotation. And if not Tyler,

651
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: I wonder if they go to MIGUELI Yoa, who is

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Speaker 2: pitching really, really well on Triple A was just the

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Speaker 2: PCL pitcher of the month in May, as we talked

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Speaker 2: about with Jeff from Baseball America last time out. Often

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Speaker 2: doesn't know where it's going. He's only throwing I believe,

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Speaker 2: fifty eight percent strikes. He's walking almost six guys per

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Speaker 2: nine innings. But he's missing enough bats, he's got enough

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Speaker 2: strikeout stuff to keep the ball out of play, and

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Speaker 2: he's pitching well enough to force a conversation. So do

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Speaker 2: you think Ryan Gusto is pitching for his rotation spot

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday?

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Speaker 4: I certainly think so.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's nothing that you're looking at that goes, oh,

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Speaker 3: he's just missing this one piece to put it together.

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Speaker 3: I mean, again, he's in a spot that he wasn't

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Speaker 3: planning on, you know, being in it. No one expected

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Speaker 3: the Astros to ask for Ryan Gusto to start every

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Speaker 3: five days at the beginning of the year, or at

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Speaker 3: least I hope not that that was not the plan.

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Speaker 3: He's been good in relief. I could certainly see him,

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Speaker 3: you know, finding a home there. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: he's only going three and two thirds every start anyway,

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Speaker 3: So even when you look at Ulola coming up, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's he doesn't know where it's going. He might not

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Speaker 3: be able to go five innings, but well he thin

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Speaker 3: con Gusto, so you know, maybe maybe try that out.

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Speaker 3: I certainly think this is going to be the show

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Speaker 3: me start. You know, if you're not able to get

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Speaker 3: five plus innings against the White Sox, it's probably time

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Speaker 3: to look in another option.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And to be fair, Gusto pitched okay against the

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Speaker 2: Pirates the other night, Like, had some awful bab bip luck,

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Speaker 2: had a lot of soft hits, a lot of ground

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Speaker 2: balls with eyes that got through, like, but still he

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Speaker 2: went four in a third innings.

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Speaker 4: Like.

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Speaker 2: His problem is twofold one. He doesn't get any swing

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Speaker 2: and miss. The swing and miss he does get is

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Speaker 2: with his fastball, and teams know that, so they're basically

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Speaker 2: just laying off any fastballs he throws and making him

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Speaker 2: throw his secondary pitches, which are not kind of evolved yet.

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Speaker 2: Like he he just doesn't have that one put away pitch,

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Speaker 2: that one breaking pitch or secondary pitch to get guys

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Speaker 2: off of his fastball. So because of that, when he

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Speaker 2: does get ahead and counts, when he gets ahead two one, two,

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Speaker 2: there's nothing to put guys away, So they're spoiling bad

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Speaker 2: secondary pitches foul. He's spraying his fastball because he doesn't

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Speaker 2: want to throw hit able fastballs in the middle of

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Speaker 2: his zone, and it's just it's just not there. He

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Speaker 2: is not a finished product yet. He's not a guy

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Speaker 2: right now that can get through an order or two

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Speaker 2: or three times, and the ashers don't want him to.

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Speaker 2: The astros are trying very hard to only get him

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Speaker 2: two times through the order, which you know. I asked

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Speaker 2: Joe a spot after his last start whether they consider

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Speaker 2: using an opener, and he said, they're not there yet

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Speaker 2: in terms of where they are, but I do wonder

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Speaker 2: how if that would be beneficial, because at least when

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Speaker 2: you use an opener, you kick the third time through

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00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: the order penalty like two innings down the road, so

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Speaker 2: you're not completely obliterating your bullpen in the fourth inning.

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Speaker 2: If you're obliterating your bullpen in like the seventh inning,

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Speaker 2: then it's okay.

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Speaker 1: And plus if you throw a.

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Speaker 2: Reliever or an opener out there for the first inning,

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Speaker 2: first five six outs, Like, I know the Astros have

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Speaker 2: been awful early in games, but it does give your

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Speaker 2: offense at least a chance to give him some support,

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Speaker 2: give him some cushion to where when he goes out there,

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Speaker 2: maybe he's got a two run lead and he doesn't

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Speaker 2: have to worry about being so perfect on every pitch.

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Speaker 2: Takes some pressure off. But they're grasping at straws at

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Speaker 2: this point, Like I think, I think you're right. I

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Speaker 2: think two a Wednesday against the White Sox. Like, if

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Speaker 2: it's not markedly better, and by markedly better, I mean

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Speaker 2: he's on the mound in the sixth inning. You know,

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Speaker 2: maybe they score two or three runs off of him,

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Speaker 2: But it depends on how that looks. But I think

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Speaker 2: right now, like they're okay if he allows a couple

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Speaker 2: of runs, Like, it's about giving them some length so

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Speaker 2: they don't have to run through their bullpen every night,

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Speaker 2: and especially they're about to start a stretch of thirteen

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Speaker 2: games in a row. In nineteen games in twenty days.

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Speaker 2: They can't be running through their bullpen that early in

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Speaker 2: that stretch of games.

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Speaker 3: And again, his stuff plays better in the bullpen because

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Speaker 3: you're only seeing a handful of guys. You can throw

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Speaker 3: that fastball, which is your best pitch, you know, way

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Speaker 3: more than you're doing it currently. You don't have to

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Speaker 3: hide behind your weaker secondary offerings, and you can just

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Speaker 3: get out, you know, over the course of an inning

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Speaker 3: or two. And so I do think that's where he

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Speaker 3: ends up finding a home on the team.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, hopefully it goes better, but I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of excited to see you'll come up.

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Speaker 1: I could be soon.

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Speaker 2: Can you name five White Socks that aren't Luis Robert

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Speaker 2: or Indrew bin and tending.

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Speaker 3: Mmm, shoeless Joe Jackson Okay, okay, and I think that's it, uh,

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Speaker 3: Jeff Blum Chack Qualls.

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Speaker 1: Did Shack Qualls play for the White Sox?

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Speaker 4: He think it feels like he did.

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Speaker 2: He helped them win a World Series. Let's see who else?

754
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Speaker 2: Jim Tomey, Joe Creedy.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm crashing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're good.

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00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: I literally know who who is Chase my draw he's

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Speaker 2: our leader in war. Okay, he's a he's Oh he's

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Speaker 2: another American league shortstop.

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Speaker 3: So watch out the competition. The competition is growing for

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Speaker 3: Jeremy Payne because Chase sounds like a like a dive

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Speaker 3: bar cocktail. I don't know why, but that's that's what

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with.

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Speaker 2: His Baseball reference much or not, his Baseball reference headshot

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Speaker 2: looks like he should be Like, no, he looks like

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Speaker 2: he should be the president of Kappa sig At Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Like, honestly, God, who are these guys?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Mike Waite, Michael wait Taylor's on the White Sox.

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Speaker 2: Sure, Corey Lee got optioned the other day, he was

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Speaker 2: in the White so Speaking of speaking of former Astros

772
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Speaker 2: first round draft picks, a full circle today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, Travis Jankowski. Hey, he can fly, man, hm,

774
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Speaker 3: that's a that is a team over there. Oh okay,

775
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Speaker 3: watch out Astro's.

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Speaker 2: Legend Martin Perez. But I think he blew his arm

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Speaker 2: out and I don't think he's active anymore. This is

778
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: great stuff. We're just sitting here like wondering who's on

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Speaker 2: the White Sox. I'll soon find out and when I

780
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Speaker 2: find out who's on the White Sox. You can come

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Speaker 2: back to crush Shitty Territory and I will try to

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Speaker 2: tell you all about them after the Astros play them,

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00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: uh three times at Dyke And Park this week before

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Speaker 2: the Twins come to town. With some name with some

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Speaker 2: faces and names you should recognize. Carlos Korea, Byron Buckston,

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Speaker 2: Joe Ryan Zebbie Matthews another name that everyone should recognize.

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Speaker 2: But a six game homestand coming up for the Astros

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Speaker 2: against the American League Central, three games against a bad team,

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Speaker 2: three games against the resurgent team, so we'll see how

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