WEBVTT - Milk The Cows!

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>We have won because New Yorkers have stood up for

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<v Speaker 3>a city they can afford, a city where they can

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<v Speaker 3>do more than just struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's where the mayor will use their power.

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<v Speaker 4>To reject Donald Trump's fascism, to stop mass ice agents

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<v Speaker 4>from deporting our neighbors, and to govern our city.

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<v Speaker 3>As a model for the Democratic Party.

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<v Speaker 2>Get used to him, and Donnie. He is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the mayor of New York.

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<v Speaker 5>Barring some really seismic something or other, he is going

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<v Speaker 5>to be the mayor of New York. And he is good.

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<v Speaker 5>He is only thirty three years old. He's in the

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<v Speaker 5>in the long history of super wealthy socialists, the capitalist.

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<v Speaker 1>System was horrible for others.

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<v Speaker 2>But not you, apparently you and your wife.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he's never had to do the things it takes

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<v Speaker 1>to be successful in America. He was born to it.

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<v Speaker 1>He was gifted it. So he doesn't understand why everybody

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it just gifted everything they want.

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<v Speaker 5>It's surprising how many big time socialist leaders don't come

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<v Speaker 5>out of the working class anywhay, he Trump tweeted out

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<v Speaker 5>yesterday after the surprise win of Mumdannie, who was like

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<v Speaker 5>way behind in the polls just a couple of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a it was a bad, bad little run

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<v Speaker 5>for polling. It would seem there in New York. Or

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<v Speaker 5>he closed really hard because Andrew Cuomo ran such a

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<v Speaker 5>horrible campaign. Anyway, it doesn't really make any difference, Trump

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<v Speaker 5>truthed out yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks terrible, terrible knoll caps. He looks terrible. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't he he looks. He's a really handsome young man.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump. His voice is grating.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not very smart.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got the same political cajunists you have for one thing,

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<v Speaker 5>AOC plus three dummies all backing him, and even our

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<v Speaker 5>great Palestinian senator, even our great Palestinian senator crying.

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<v Speaker 2>Chuck Schumer is groveling over him.

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<v Speaker 5>Eric Adams, the current mayor of New York, who will

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<v Speaker 5>be running against Zoran Mumdani as an independent, called him

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<v Speaker 5>a snake oil salesman yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>But this Mandami dude.

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<v Speaker 5>Who, as I mentioned earlier, he and his wife had

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<v Speaker 5>a lavish like we're movie stars wedding in Dubai a

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<v Speaker 5>few years back, and that's not very socialism, I don't think,

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<v Speaker 5>But anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>That's his deal.

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<v Speaker 5>I was watching Mark Halpern's podcast yesterday and he said,

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<v Speaker 5>the mainstream media.

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<v Speaker 1>Did a horrible job of.

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<v Speaker 5>Giving you any information about this guy, and all that's

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<v Speaker 5>gonna come out between now and election day. Though Mark

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<v Speaker 5>Halpern believes like most everybody does, there's no stopping it now.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, he won the Democratic nomination and there are

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<v Speaker 5>no Republicans or Independence with the heft or the time

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<v Speaker 5>to derail him.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is a desperate search for said unicorn going

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<v Speaker 1>on right now. I guarantee you there is so much

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<v Speaker 1>money at stake.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sure there is, but that person should have emerged earlier.

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<v Speaker 5>Tremendous amount of oppo research, according to Mark Halprin that

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<v Speaker 5>is laying out there that nobody's used yet, some of

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<v Speaker 5>the papers this guy wrote in college, or things that

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<v Speaker 5>he's said or done when he was younger and less,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, trying to be mainstream.

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<v Speaker 2>That he is as a thirty three year old.

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<v Speaker 5>I do want to hear what twenty two year old

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<v Speaker 5>him had to say about the United States of America

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<v Speaker 5>and a variety of different things.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's still gonna end up mayor of New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Hipp, the Great housing market writer for The Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street Journal, is headline today is New Yorker's vote to

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<v Speaker 1>make their housing shortage worse, and he contrasts New York

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<v Speaker 1>with Austin. How Austin saw a housing crisis and enlarged supply.

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<v Speaker 1>New York through some dan he's going to do the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>They are going to severely constrict supply to keep prices down.

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<v Speaker 5>I would like to know how much of his popularity

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<v Speaker 5>was his policies too much if no matter how much

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<v Speaker 5>it was, it was too much for my taste, and.

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<v Speaker 2>How much of it was his.

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<v Speaker 5>Vibe and approach to politics, which we'll get into here

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<v Speaker 5>in just a little bit. It's very similar to Trump's.

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<v Speaker 5>But a little breakdown on this dude. His dad is

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<v Speaker 5>a Columbia University professor of anthropology, political science, and African studies.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that sound like?

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<v Speaker 5>While the candidate's mother is an Oscar nominated filmmaker, so

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<v Speaker 5>he comes from a family of filmmakers and Colombia African

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<v Speaker 5>Studies professors.

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<v Speaker 1>The family of education and entertainment.

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<v Speaker 5>The family moved to the Upper West Side from Uganda.

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<v Speaker 5>Upper West Side is where all poor, hardworking socialist people

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<v Speaker 5>end up from Uganda while growing up, but paid little

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<v Speaker 5>in rent because they were set up in the Columbia

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<v Speaker 5>housing situation.

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<v Speaker 2>So they got there and lived on that.

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<v Speaker 5>And Mamdani himself graduated from Bodwin College in Maine.

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<v Speaker 2>Has worked for.

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<v Speaker 5>Advocacy groups and nonprofits, like not really earning a salary

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<v Speaker 5>or you know, there's no measure of whether you accomplished anything,

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<v Speaker 5>kind of like the whole Obama Community Organizer thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Was also a music.

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<v Speaker 5>Supervisor brief for a Hollywood film directed by his mother,

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<v Speaker 5>which is nothing, and a short stint as a rapper.

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<v Speaker 5>That's his entire back ground in the working very Carl Marx, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically did nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Although where'd family money come from? Because I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>wedding you're talking about, that's crazy money. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't even get a breakdown on actually where the

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<v Speaker 5>money came from.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, because an academic, you know, higher placed academic,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a solid salary. And I've never heard of this woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose she might have a couple of victories in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie business, but I've not heard anything about that

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<v Speaker 1>where they get all that money.

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<v Speaker 2>I know his wife is successful. Also, they met on Hinge,

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<v Speaker 2>so good for him.

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<v Speaker 1>She's an illustrator, yeah, offer illustrator something.

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<v Speaker 5>She's some sort of artist person also. Anyway, this is

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<v Speaker 5>the stuff that I thought was interesting from the Wide

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<v Speaker 5>World of News newsletter today written by Mark Alprin about

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<v Speaker 5>the similarities between Trump and Mam Donnie and I actually

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<v Speaker 5>thought about this yesterday as I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was watching him for the first time.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd heard that he was good on the campaign trail,

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<v Speaker 5>but his various tiktoks and speeches and like he'd walk

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<v Speaker 5>out with a microphone and interview you know, people making

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<v Speaker 5>sandwiches and that sort of stuff, and he's really good

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<v Speaker 5>at that sort of thing. Both men possess a post

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<v Speaker 5>modern flare. They wink at the camera, they know they

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<v Speaker 5>are in a show, and they invite you to know

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<v Speaker 5>it too, which is interesting. I remember hearing this about

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<v Speaker 5>Letterman years ago. Norm MacDonald, the community the comedian, talked

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<v Speaker 5>about when he finally understood Letterman, when he realized that,

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<v Speaker 5>like you, the guest were the bit and Letterman and

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<v Speaker 5>the audience were in on the whole thing, and you

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<v Speaker 5>were like the foil, and every guest was and that's

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<v Speaker 5>why Letterman Show was so different than everything. And I

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<v Speaker 5>think that is exactly the postmodern thing that Trump and

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<v Speaker 5>this Mom Donnie character have done.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, you mean, the voters, You and I are kind.

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<v Speaker 5>Of in on it, and we're like kind of making

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<v Speaker 5>fun of everybody else, which is an interesting trick to

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<v Speaker 5>pull off and healthy helping of I speak your language,

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<v Speaker 5>I get your references.

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<v Speaker 1>I am of you, whether it's the Heartland, which is

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<v Speaker 1>really amazing for a born to wealth New York real

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<v Speaker 1>estate developer, or this guy. I've seen some of the

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<v Speaker 1>social media stuff man, and it is straight out of

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<v Speaker 1>like top level TikTok influencer stuff. Yeah, his sense of

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<v Speaker 1>irony and hipness. And it's the way he handles the

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<v Speaker 1>camera and everything. He knows the language he ought to

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<v Speaker 1>be speaking. And that's you know, that's part of the

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<v Speaker 1>connection with the young. Plus you can get them to

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<v Speaker 1>fall for idiotic policies that will never work and never have.

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<v Speaker 5>But and Helpern goes through how Trump, you know, being

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<v Speaker 5>a TV star, understood all that, and Mom Donnie, for

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<v Speaker 5>whatever reason, you know, coming from a Hollywood filmmaker background

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<v Speaker 5>or whatever understands the modern world and modern med Also, Mamdani,

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<v Speaker 5>like Trump, wears his ideology on his sleeve, sometimes literally

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<v Speaker 5>in this case, in the form of branded jackets or

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<v Speaker 5>tax the rich merch but never lets you forget he's

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<v Speaker 5>in on the metajoke of modern politics, which is a

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<v Speaker 5>Trump thing. Also, this is all just a phony joke,

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<v Speaker 5>and they're all screwing you.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm on.

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<v Speaker 1>Your side, right that whole deal. Both break the fourth wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump would call.

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<v Speaker 5>Into cable news shows unannounced, altering the news cycle on

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<v Speaker 5>a whim. Mamdani records Instagram videos directly addressing his constituents

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<v Speaker 5>with all the production values of well funded college activist groups,

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<v Speaker 5>and yet they work because he, liked Trump, knows that

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<v Speaker 5>message discipline in the twenty first century means being the

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<v Speaker 5>message yourself, living on social media and in real life

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<v Speaker 5>in synchronism tandem with you, so your message and you

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<v Speaker 5>you live your message every single day. Critics scoff at

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<v Speaker 5>this for both of them. They call it unserious or

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<v Speaker 5>narcissistic or both. But we are living in the age

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<v Speaker 5>on authenticity as performance. Neither man hides the fact that

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<v Speaker 5>he is selling something, but they are good at it,

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<v Speaker 5>and that in today's media ecosystem is more powerful than

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<v Speaker 5>one hundred endorsements from one hundred editorial boards that nobody ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Reads, which I think is interesting too.

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<v Speaker 5>You are the message, you are winking at people. They

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<v Speaker 5>are in on your joke that you've got going. In

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<v Speaker 5>a way that you look at other politicians. Postmodernism is

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<v Speaker 5>hard for me to wrap my head around. But when

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<v Speaker 5>I see somebody that's got the new thing, like Trump

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<v Speaker 5>and this guy, all the other politicians, they look like

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<v Speaker 5>they're from a hundred years ago in the way that

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<v Speaker 5>they handle their messaging and trying to relate to audiences.

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<v Speaker 1>That's such a great point though, and intriguing that the

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<v Speaker 1>way you establish authenticity is to admit you're not being authentic. Yes, yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's not trying to job me because he

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<v Speaker 1>admitted to me that this is all a show. Okay, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I always use the example of.

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<v Speaker 5>Trump going to the big Harley thing with all the

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<v Speaker 5>Harley riders, and every politician had always thrown on a

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<v Speaker 5>leather vest and ridden on a motorcycle or ridden on

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<v Speaker 5>the back of a motorcycle. If they didn't know how

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<v Speaker 5>to ride a motorcycle and warn the garb and tried

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<v Speaker 5>to pretend they're one of them. Trump shows up in

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<v Speaker 5>a limo in his suit and says he doesn't like motorcycles,

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<v Speaker 5>and the crowd goes wild because he's authentically inauthentic.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right now. I'm just here for the votes, everybody.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, But for whatever reason, that worked, And Mom, Donnie's

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<v Speaker 5>got a big slice of that too. And one more

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<v Speaker 5>thing on this before before we let it go when

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<v Speaker 5>he take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he hates the Jews. Oh nope, something different, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he is a socialist and I think he

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<v Speaker 5>does hate the Jews. So he got that crowd from

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<v Speaker 5>that standpoint. But I also think he got a big

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<v Speaker 5>chunk of like the way Trump does of I do

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<v Speaker 5>things that everybody tells you you're not supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody tells you you can't say this. I said it.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump does that all the time, and Mom, Duddie, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try to tell me I can't say a globalized INTIFA.

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<v Speaker 2>To screw them, I can say whatever I want. People

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<v Speaker 2>love that from there.

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<v Speaker 5>The person they're gonna vote for now, nobody's gonna tell

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<v Speaker 5>me I can't say this. Trump has done it on

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<v Speaker 5>a variety of topics, and this guy did it too,

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<v Speaker 5>And I think people that's with the enthusiasm for him.

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<v Speaker 5>He's from another country, so he can't be president of

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<v Speaker 5>the United States, but he could be a major player

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<v Speaker 5>mayor of New York gets a lot of attention, and

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<v Speaker 5>the Democratic Party is gonna have to deal with him

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<v Speaker 5>because he's gonna have such a you know, a prominent position.

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<v Speaker 2>How they're gonna do that, I do not know.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to find that quote from that email about uh

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<v Speaker 1>ker kergarden freud perverse. Will people will do. They'll embrace

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of even if it is self damaging.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'll look into that. It's interesting. We'll be following

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<v Speaker 5>this for quite some time. I'm sure more on the

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<v Speaker 5>way stay here. Actor Orlando Bloom and singer Katie Perry

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<v Speaker 5>have broken up after a six year engagement. That's a

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<v Speaker 5>long time to be engaged getting married anyway. I'll bet

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<v Speaker 5>he couldn't handle being married, or now that she's an astronaut,

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<v Speaker 5>she couldn't handle being married to a non astronaut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bet that's right. Being gone for hours at a

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<v Speaker 1>time on her Space missions oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>No place to raise your kids. The Atlantic with a

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<v Speaker 5>piece about the movie Jaws on its fifty year anniversary

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<v Speaker 5>and what it meant about class struggle is being mocked

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<v Speaker 5>by some of my favorite people in a hilarious way.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope you can stay tuned for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellent I'm so excited about that. Holy cow, we have

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<v Speaker 1>almost there's no time. All right, here's Neil. Nobody's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the big beautiful Bill because some of the geopolitical

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that's going on right now, it's got all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff wrong with it, but it's got all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff right with it too, and those who profit

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<v Speaker 1>from what they're trying to fix are going to come

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<v Speaker 1>out hardcore against it. And I just think it might

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<v Speaker 1>be at the point where it's some horrifying sausage making,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's the best sausage we're gonna get. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the things they're going to get rid of is this giant,

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly expensive medicare scam. And I think this is a

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<v Speaker 1>good summary of how it works. And if your eyes

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<v Speaker 1>start to close gloss over, that's the point. That's how

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<v Speaker 1>they keep getting away with it. So in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>States came up with this government sanctioned racket of Medicare

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<v Speaker 1>provider taxes. The idea was to get more federal Medicaid

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<v Speaker 1>matching funds and therefore spend less from there general tax revenue.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get the Feds to pay for our citizens' healthcare costs.

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<v Speaker 1>So that has enabled states to expand benefits and greatly

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<v Speaker 1>diminish the incentives to operate efficiently, meaning to squeeze your

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<v Speaker 1>tax dollars best they can. So here's how it works,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is a good summary. Keep your eyes unglossed.

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<v Speaker 1>States assess taxes on healthcare providers, mostly hospitals. They tax

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<v Speaker 1>the hospitals, they channel that tax revenue back into their

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<v Speaker 1>Medicaid program and spend it, which draws more federal money.

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<v Speaker 1>For every dollar the state's spend on Medicaid, they get

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<v Speaker 1>one to three dollars back from the Feds, and nine

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for every dollar for able bodied individuals covered under

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<v Speaker 1>Obama Care. Ooh, which Craig, the healthcare guru, warned us about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't like these incentives.

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<v Speaker 1>So what about those poor hospitals getting tax this money?

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<v Speaker 1>No problem. They then receive more in Medicaid payments. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they pay in the provider taxes. The states make sure

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<v Speaker 1>a good chunk of revenue is routed back to the

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<v Speaker 1>hospitals so they're made whole plus more money. And in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety one, George H. W cracked down on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer voted for it. Long story short,

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<v Speaker 1>but the states and the big government to Democrats have

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<v Speaker 1>found ways to get around that, especially through Medicare that

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<v Speaker 1>effort at reform. So the big beautiful bill is going

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<v Speaker 1>to really crack down on this stuff. You are going

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<v Speaker 1>to hear screeching like half of Congress is being murdered

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<v Speaker 1>in the streets about how this measure is going to

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<v Speaker 1>deny people their Medicare and their healthcare and children are

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<v Speaker 1>going to die of the common cold and the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of it. That's because the hospital lobby and the healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>lobbies are spending so much money to kill this. Just

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<v Speaker 1>be aware of what's happening, because it's about to start

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<v Speaker 1>in earnest. It was the movie Jaws and allegory about

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<v Speaker 1>class divisions in America. Of course, it's about a big

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<v Speaker 1>fish botton people.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course it freaking wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 5>Put The Atlantic claims it was, and people are mocking that,

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<v Speaker 5>so stay tuned for that. On the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up Armstrong and Getty slowly, Pitch, I can go slowly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's come on down and chump some edition.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta need a bigger proach. Terrifying.

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<v Speaker 5>The movie Jaws came out fifty years ago this summer,

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<v Speaker 5>horrifying swimmers all around the world and hoping to God

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<v Speaker 5>that as you bobbed around in the ocean you did

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<v Speaker 5>not hear a cello.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, bought them, bought them, but it Oh, so

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<v Speaker 2>this is funny.

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<v Speaker 5>This reminds me of our friend James Lindsay when he

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<v Speaker 5>and his friends did the Grievance papers. They put out

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<v Speaker 5>these fake studies. They're incredibly over the top and ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 5>but you couldn't tell them for the real thing from

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<v Speaker 5>the real thing, because the real thing is over the

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<v Speaker 5>top and ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>To that point, I'm going to do a mock one.

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<v Speaker 2>I could switch the mock one.

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<v Speaker 5>With the Atlantic piece and you wouldn't be able to

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<v Speaker 5>tell the difference. But the Atlantic has a piece out today.

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<v Speaker 5>The film Jaws came out fifty years ago this month.

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<v Speaker 5>It portrays Clash divisions differently from the novel that inspired it,

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<v Speaker 5>in ways it anticipated a fight that has arguably defined

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<v Speaker 5>American politics since twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>What Jaws got wrong is the title.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was about to fish bite and peeple.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 5>It was about a scary shark biting people, and it

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<v Speaker 5>made people think, oh my god, that could happen to me.

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<v Speaker 5>The ocean and the end and they catch the shark

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<v Speaker 5>and it's a bloody finale and blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing else to it but that. That's it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's hilarious that the Atlantic is turning it into

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<v Speaker 5>some sort of class division and a commentary on today's politics.

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<v Speaker 5>It anticipated today's politics or whatever the crap. Anyway, Noah

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<v Speaker 5>Roffman of The National Review decided to.

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<v Speaker 2>Write in that style, mocking it. Basically. Charles C. W.

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<v Speaker 5>Cook, who Joe and I both really like, responded to

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<v Speaker 5>Noah's peace by saying, I am in awe.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me read a little bit from it.

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<v Speaker 5>The character Quint, that's the guy we just heard from,

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<v Speaker 5>the guy who owns the boat that says we're in

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<v Speaker 5>need a bigger boat. He's the salty old dude.

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<v Speaker 1>The character quint represents the suppressed male id, which struggles

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<v Speaker 1>against structural and metasocial taboos, prescribing the full expression of

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<v Speaker 1>the archetypical masculine ethos.

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<v Speaker 2>He is consumed by the sleek.

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<v Speaker 5>White metaphor of sexual equality, against which which he rages.

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<v Speaker 2>Until the last minute he bids farewell and ado, not.

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<v Speaker 1>To those Spanish ladies, but to the shackles of conventional

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<v Speaker 1>gender roles. Exactly what I thought, That's what I took

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<v Speaker 1>from it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, when I watched the Shark movie. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 5>is no more over the top than the Atlantic piece. Really,

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<v Speaker 5>the drive to open the beaches by the fourth of

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<v Speaker 5>July is a classic expression of American jingoism and the

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<v Speaker 5>blood spilled over his rote commitment to commercialism as an

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<v Speaker 5>unremarkable feature of the rapacious capitalist enterprise.

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<v Speaker 1>I find that sort of.

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<v Speaker 5>Thing hilarious, and that it is so not even this

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<v Speaker 5>much different from the actual pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of these crazy people write about this stuff right right,

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<v Speaker 1>so easy to bamboozle them if you know the language

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<v Speaker 1>to throw around.

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<v Speaker 5>Noah Rothman actually said at the end of he said,

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<v Speaker 5>this is really fun. No wonder so many people do

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<v Speaker 5>it for.

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<v Speaker 2>A living.

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<v Speaker 5>One more jaws, A portrayal of the monstrous, menacing, and

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<v Speaker 5>potentially violent other foreign, indeed alien. It haunts its pursuers,

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<v Speaker 5>dominates their conscience, and is subject to abuses and indignities

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<v Speaker 5>until it meets out the righteous vengeance of accumulated transgenerational memory.

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<v Speaker 5>The Shark is the global South, the black and brown

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<v Speaker 5>diaspora of the bun Dung Revolution, whatever the hell that means.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'll just give you one more that I like

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<v Speaker 5>Martin Brody. Who is is?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>The uh oh Brody is the police chief right.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, the weak and crumbling edifice of the post war consensus,

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<v Speaker 5>exhausted and plagued by indecision. He serves as our link

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<v Speaker 5>to the fraying social order of the past. His triumph

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<v Speaker 5>is pirate. I mean, it wasn't worth it. Perched atop

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<v Speaker 5>a sinking ship, dealt a mortal blow by the rising

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<v Speaker 5>vanguard of the subjugated and militant, His reprieve from the

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<v Speaker 5>oppressor's fate will be short lived.

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<v Speaker 1>The Atlantic pea is great. The Atlantic piece that I

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<v Speaker 1>read is so not much different than that. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's just who dude are?

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<v Speaker 5>It gets to the previous conversation of like Trump and

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<v Speaker 5>this man, this New York mayor dude whatever his name

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<v Speaker 5>is being in on the joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the Atlantic in on the joke?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they know it's a joke.

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<v Speaker 5>And they're writing it for their readers who think it's

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<v Speaker 5>a joke, or they all taking it seriously?

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<v Speaker 2>This crap.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you know it crystallized in my head. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the same way that if you want to like get

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<v Speaker 1>the tension, or sell practically anything to a twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>year old male, at least in the past, appeal to

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<v Speaker 1>sexual desire and they'll just buy anything. And to women

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<v Speaker 1>it's you'll be beautiful and desirable and people will like you.

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<v Speaker 1>They will freaking buy anything. Appeal to the intellectual vanity

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<v Speaker 1>of a certain crowd, and it's it's mostly on the left.

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<v Speaker 1>You if you make them believe believing this makes you

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<v Speaker 1>better and smarter than everybody else, they will believe freaking anything,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how laughable it is. Lendsy and pluck Rose

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<v Speaker 1>and Bogosian with their experiment you mentioned the infamous the

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<v Speaker 1>Grievance study papers. I mean, they are the best example

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<v Speaker 1>ever of that. You could not make it so stupid

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<v Speaker 1>that the intellectual vanity of these people wouldn't make them

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<v Speaker 1>lap it up.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the Atlantic piece is actually about the different political

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<v Speaker 5>orientations of the book versus the movie, and how the

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<v Speaker 5>movie got it wrong in portraying class distinctions as.

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<v Speaker 2>Opposed to the book.

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<v Speaker 5>Nobody watched the movie and came away from it thinking

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<v Speaker 5>about class distinctions at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't get them wrong. It didn't get them at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a it's a horror film.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a short close the beaches, or don't we

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<v Speaker 1>there's tremendous money at stake. That's just a really good subplot, sure, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And whether it's a guy in a hockey mask coming

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<v Speaker 1>on campers with an axe or a shark in the water,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it is. It's got nothing to do with class.

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<v Speaker 2>Distinctions or any of this other crap.

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<v Speaker 5>And it didn't foresee our politics fifty years later.

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<v Speaker 2>What is wrong with you people?

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<v Speaker 1>If you were to read more of the Atlantic one

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<v Speaker 1>and then give us all an hour to go about

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<v Speaker 1>our lives, I think it would be impossible for each

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<v Speaker 1>of us to remember which one was the parody and

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<v Speaker 1>which one was realized. Is your point, obviously, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what a bunch of mumbo jumbo. There are some ideas

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<v Speaker 1>so ridiculous only an intellectual would believe them. Thomas Sowell.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm paraphrasing.

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<v Speaker 5>And talking about the Brody is a recent transplant from

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<v Speaker 5>New York City. This is from the Atlantic, the actual piece.

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<v Speaker 5>Brody the character.

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<v Speaker 2>You should have just.

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<v Speaker 1>Read it and asked us which one was. They just guess.

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<v Speaker 5>Brody, the character in the movie, is a recent trans

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<v Speaker 5>plant from New York City in the film, living a

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<v Speaker 5>seemingly idyllic life, and Amity went a home with a

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<v Speaker 5>home on the water, although he is not college educated.

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<v Speaker 1>What the hell's it got to do with any.

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<v Speaker 2>And did anybody even know that?

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<v Speaker 5>His primary virtue is that he defers to people who

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<v Speaker 5>are and he becomes a foil for Amity's working people,

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<v Speaker 5>who in the film are portrayed as unpleasant or obtused

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<v Speaker 5>and at best well meaning but shortsighted.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>That was what I said. I walked out of Jaws

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, you know what, honey, the working people

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<v Speaker 1>are so obtuse in that movie. I couldn't enjoy it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you ever go to Universal, and we've probably

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<v Speaker 5>most have us done that. If you've ever been to

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<v Speaker 5>Universal Studios in Los Angeles and the old Jaws shark

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<v Speaker 5>comes out of the water and you go, ah to.

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<v Speaker 2>Gets you kind of wet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what you think.

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<v Speaker 5>The obtuseness of the working class, that's what you're thinking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, just you know what, you peep a fine, do

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<v Speaker 1>what you I just don't want you in charge of anything.

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<v Speaker 5>Well yeah, I used to think that too. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want you to exist, doll. Or you need to be

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<v Speaker 5>in a camp or okay, fine, you can live your

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<v Speaker 5>free life is in camp, but you don't get to

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<v Speaker 5>be in college teaching kids this crap and convincing him

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<v Speaker 5>it's true, because that is a problem for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So true. Yeah wow, speaking of delusion, Wow wow, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it just blows my mind that you watched the Shark movie.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you came away with.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's it's a great example of if you spend

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<v Speaker 1>your all of your time looking for something, you will

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<v Speaker 1>find it well, whether authentically or not. It's like the

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<v Speaker 1>race obsession crowd that sees everything through the lens of race. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll cook up you know. Examples both real and imagine

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<v Speaker 1>where people have racial feelings that aren't very pretty, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't spend all your time looking for them,

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<v Speaker 1>like plenty of black and brown and pink people all

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<v Speaker 1>over the world, it's just not worried about it. Life

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<v Speaker 1>is fine. I just in my mind conflated the two

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking. I was about to say in the

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<v Speaker 1>the the example of the shark as the other representing

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<v Speaker 1>the brown and black.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that was Noah's thing, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah. Did you ever have a college class like this?

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<v Speaker 5>This was hot, like for our age, subliminal message in

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<v Speaker 5>advertising and how they're doing it all the time. And

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<v Speaker 5>I remember the college professor putting up a can of

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<v Speaker 5>coke with the water droplets on it and saying, you

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<v Speaker 5>see how this water droplet is clearly a woman's body,

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<v Speaker 5>and this one is It's no, they're just water droplet's.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like staring at clouds and you can think they

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<v Speaker 5>or anything. There's no subliminal anything going on here. It's

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<v Speaker 5>just you're making this all up. This is crap.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, just sound confident and people will buy it,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly if you're you know, within the ivied walls of

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<v Speaker 1>a university, and if you're angel old youngsters. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>know better.

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<v Speaker 5>Combined with I just need to remember this because you're

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<v Speaker 5>going to ask me about it on the test.

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<v Speaker 1>So, okay, have you heard of the four Am Club?

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<v Speaker 2>I have not.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not getting a fraction of the coverage it should.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the QAnon of the left, Okay, but the

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<v Speaker 1>press isn't writing about it because they know it makes

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<v Speaker 1>lefties sound wacky. But it's way out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you gonna tell us about it coming up?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, okay, because I'm interested in that.

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder where it comes from too, because Q was

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<v Speaker 5>supposedly a guy like deep in intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>Still this government, Yeah that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I know somebody who's currently Q and on.

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<v Speaker 1>So some diehards are still hanging with that obvious fraud.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, we got a lot on the way. Stay here.

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<v Speaker 6>A new Amber alert in Idaho in urgent search at

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<v Speaker 6>this hour for two teenagers, a brother and a sister.

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<v Speaker 6>Authorities are looking for thirteen year old Alan Fisher and

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<v Speaker 6>his sister, fifteen year old Rachel. Their mother, Elizabeth Rowndie,

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<v Speaker 6>says someone hauled her teens away in a car outside

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<v Speaker 6>a store in Monfieu. At least say someone might be

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<v Speaker 6>taking those teams to an FLDS group religious group in Utah.

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<v Speaker 6>They are looking for a grey Honda or Hondai, a

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<v Speaker 6>Saddan with Utah plate.

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<v Speaker 1>So some sort of cult kidnapping working. The teens disappeared

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<v Speaker 1>by cults in a sedan desk, Katie Green, What's going

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<v Speaker 1>on here, Katie?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, So David Muir left all of the details.

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<v Speaker 1>I know when I saw that story. I saw that

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<v Speaker 1>story last night. I thought, this leaves like five obvious questions,

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<v Speaker 1>you idiot. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>So these two teenagers, the thirteen and the fifteen year

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<v Speaker 8>old there, brother and sister, they get reported missing out

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<v Speaker 8>of Idaho.

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<v Speaker 7>What David Muir left out.

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<v Speaker 8>Is they think that they've been picked up by their

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<v Speaker 8>older sister who went missing back in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 8>Now this family had escaped an FLDS religious cult in Utah.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that stand for again?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 7>Something like Saints.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like your splinter Mormon group, Yeah, okay, fundamentalist Church

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<v Speaker 1>of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints Okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 7>And they were.

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<v Speaker 8>Part of this cult in Utah that was intense. And

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<v Speaker 8>so the mom took the kids and moved to Idaho

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<v Speaker 8>and they ate the daughter once she turned eighteen, took

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<v Speaker 8>back off and went back.

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<v Speaker 7>To the religious cult in Utah.

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<v Speaker 5>And so what she'd been in it so long, she

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<v Speaker 5>got fully indoctrinated in right.

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<v Speaker 7>And she totally brainwashed.

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<v Speaker 8>And so what they're thinking is that the older sister

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<v Speaker 8>came back and got her two younger siblings and then

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<v Speaker 8>took them back to the cult.

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<v Speaker 2>Thinking she's doing them a favor.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, probably. So, yeah, which is why every radical political

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<v Speaker 1>movement seeks to indoctrinate children. It's critical to their success.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's happening in your government schools right now, folks. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to be a Captain Apocalypse all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you don't study political movements through history, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't see the framework of why they're doing this and

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<v Speaker 1>why they're teaching all this crap in schools. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>your kids can't read and write, they can't do math,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're being taught about radical genders. That seems weird. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a deliberate plan.

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<v Speaker 5>And the psychology we've all learned now that whatever, when

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<v Speaker 5>you learn something, the first thing you learn is very

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<v Speaker 5>hard to shake, like really hard to shake even in

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<v Speaker 5>like in the face of all kinds of evidence that

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<v Speaker 5>what you learned first was wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really hard if the person.

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<v Speaker 1>Who told you the first thing comes back and says,

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<v Speaker 1>I was mistaken, that is wrong. Here is what's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Your brain will cling to the first thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's troubling.

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<v Speaker 7>It's just got a little more sick.

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<v Speaker 8>The FLDS is the Mormon fundamentalist group where members practice.

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<v Speaker 7>Polygamy okay here, which.

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<v Speaker 8>Is prohibited obviously in the traditional Mormon.

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<v Speaker 1>The legend good grief.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of a change of topic. Are we

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<v Speaker 1>headed to world toward word that went poorly? Is world

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<v Speaker 1>War three? You gonna break out? Not? According to Gea Prism,

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<v Speaker 1>a self proclaimed psychic and founder of Mood, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>closest thing the left has to QAnon. It's called the

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<v Speaker 1>four Am Club.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about getting up before the sun to get

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<v Speaker 1>a good run in or melt the gout of the gym,

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<v Speaker 1>or to even pray or study the Bible. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>confederation of quote unquote spiritually inclined women who all claim

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<v Speaker 1>to have woken up suddenly around four am on November sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>What that's Election day with a sinking feeling that Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump had won the election. Checking their phones. Their feminine

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<v Speaker 1>intuitions were confirmed, except that they don't really believe he won.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang in now, the four Am clubbers believe that we

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<v Speaker 1>really are living in an alternate reality where Trump is president.

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<v Speaker 1>At four am on November sixth last year, that's when

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<v Speaker 1>the timelines split, and it's only a matter of time

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<v Speaker 1>before we all realize it and get back on the

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<v Speaker 1>correct timeline where Trump failed and Kamala Harris took a

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<v Speaker 1>rightful place as chief executive.

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<v Speaker 5>They watch too much Loki, so you need the Time

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 5>Variants Police to show up and fix this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Or the Waki hot Dog Finger movie with all those

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<v Speaker 1>parallel universes. Right, yeah, said one member who posts on

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok quote. I have been steadfast, so rock solid in

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<v Speaker 1>my belief that she won, and it was only a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of time before we all got onto that timeline.

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<v Speaker 1>My friends have looked at me like I'm crazy and

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<v Speaker 1>told me I'm delusional because you wonder why, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You're crazy, and delusionals the reason.

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<v Speaker 1>But then, and this is why I'm sorry for the inconvenience,

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<v Speaker 1>We must unplug the Internet. Then she found the others

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<v Speaker 1>just like her, those of us in the four Am

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<v Speaker 1>Club viscerally experienced that timeline split. This is the vision,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the light that we have been holding. Another

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<v Speaker 1>four am are explained. There are hundreds of videos with

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<v Speaker 1>millions of views on four AM Club, videos on TikTok,

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>and additional chatter on left wing Reddit, and they're pop

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<v Speaker 1>scularity is only grown. A lot of them are made

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<v Speaker 1>by self proclaimed which is mystics, mediums, clairvoyance, intuitives and

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<v Speaker 1>the like.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my whole theory on this, and I don't probably

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<v Speaker 2>not my theory. I probably read it somewhere. It's probably obvious.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh as we now live in this world where you

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<v Speaker 5>don't have the slightest idea what's true or not. As

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.440
<v Speaker 5>our old producer Sean used to say, every news story

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<v Speaker 5>comes as a homework assignment. You now have to you

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<v Speaker 5>hear a news story you're interested in, and you now

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<v Speaker 5>got to do the research to try to figure out

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<v Speaker 5>if it's real or not, or how much bitter's real.

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<v Speaker 5>Living in that world has made us all super susceptible

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<v Speaker 5>to or want to cling to some solid piece of something,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's made this sort of thing a lot easier

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<v Speaker 5>to get going.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and you combine that with what I've discussed several times,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that in the old world, if you had

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<v Speaker 1>a hair brained idea, you would try it out in

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<v Speaker 1>your friend group, you'r commune, your workplace, whatever, and you

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<v Speaker 1>would get a lot of your out of your freaking

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 1>mind and realize, oh, that's a hair brained idea. Now

0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:08.719
<v Speaker 1>you go to the Internet and you can find ten

0:35:08.920 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>or one thousand or a million people who say your

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:16.600
<v Speaker 1>hair brained idea about sex with children or neo Nazism

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.760
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. They will tell you that's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, four Am Club, knock yourself out. If you

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