1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: We have won because New Yorkers have stood up for 5 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 3: a city they can afford, a city where they can 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: do more than just struggle. 7 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: And it's where the mayor will use their power. 8 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 4: To reject Donald Trump's fascism, to stop mass ice agents 9 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 4: from deporting our neighbors, and to govern our city. 10 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: As a model for the Democratic Party. 11 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: Get used to him, and Donnie. He is going to 12 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: be the mayor of New York. 13 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 5: Barring some really seismic something or other, he is going 14 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 5: to be the mayor of New York. And he is good. 15 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 5: He is only thirty three years old. He's in the 16 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 5: in the long history of super wealthy socialists, the capitalist. 17 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: System was horrible for others. 18 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: But not you, apparently you and your wife. 19 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: Well, he's never had to do the things it takes 20 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: to be successful in America. He was born to it. 21 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: He was gifted it. So he doesn't understand why everybody 22 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: isn't it just gifted everything they want. 23 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 5: It's surprising how many big time socialist leaders don't come 24 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 5: out of the working class anywhay, he Trump tweeted out 25 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 5: yesterday after the surprise win of Mumdannie, who was like 26 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 5: way behind in the polls just a couple of weeks ago. 27 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 5: It was a it was a bad, bad little run 28 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 5: for polling. It would seem there in New York. Or 29 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 5: he closed really hard because Andrew Cuomo ran such a 30 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 5: horrible campaign. Anyway, it doesn't really make any difference, Trump 31 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 5: truthed out yesterday. 32 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: He looks terrible, terrible knoll caps. He looks terrible. He 33 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: doesn't he he looks. He's a really handsome young man. 34 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: Trump. His voice is grating. 35 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: It is not. 36 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: He's not very smart. 37 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 5: He's got the same political cajunists you have for one thing, 38 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 5: AOC plus three dummies all backing him, and even our 39 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 5: great Palestinian senator, even our great Palestinian senator crying. 40 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer is groveling over him. 41 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 5: Eric Adams, the current mayor of New York, who will 42 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 5: be running against Zoran Mumdani as an independent, called him 43 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 5: a snake oil salesman yesterday. 44 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: But this Mandami dude. 45 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 5: Who, as I mentioned earlier, he and his wife had 46 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 5: a lavish like we're movie stars wedding in Dubai a 47 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 5: few years back, and that's not very socialism, I don't think, 48 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 5: But anyway. 49 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: That's his deal. 50 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 5: I was watching Mark Halpern's podcast yesterday and he said, 51 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 5: the mainstream media. 52 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: Did a horrible job of. 53 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 5: Giving you any information about this guy, and all that's 54 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 5: gonna come out between now and election day. Though Mark 55 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 5: Halpern believes like most everybody does, there's no stopping it now. 56 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 5: I mean, he won the Democratic nomination and there are 57 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 5: no Republicans or Independence with the heft or the time 58 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 5: to derail him. 59 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: So there is a desperate search for said unicorn going 60 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: on right now. I guarantee you there is so much 61 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: money at stake. 62 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 5: I'm sure there is, but that person should have emerged earlier. 63 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 5: Tremendous amount of oppo research, according to Mark Halprin that 64 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 5: is laying out there that nobody's used yet, some of 65 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 5: the papers this guy wrote in college, or things that 66 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 5: he's said or done when he was younger and less, 67 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 5: you know, trying to be mainstream. 68 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: That he is as a thirty three year old. 69 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 5: I do want to hear what twenty two year old 70 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 5: him had to say about the United States of America 71 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 5: and a variety of different things. 72 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: But he's still gonna end up mayor of New York. 73 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: Greg Hipp, the Great housing market writer for The Wall 74 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: Street Journal, is headline today is New Yorker's vote to 75 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: make their housing shortage worse, and he contrasts New York 76 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: with Austin. How Austin saw a housing crisis and enlarged supply. 77 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: New York through some dan he's going to do the opposite. 78 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: They are going to severely constrict supply to keep prices down. 79 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 5: I would like to know how much of his popularity 80 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 5: was his policies too much if no matter how much 81 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 5: it was, it was too much for my taste, and. 82 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: How much of it was his. 83 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 5: Vibe and approach to politics, which we'll get into here 84 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 5: in just a little bit. It's very similar to Trump's. 85 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 5: But a little breakdown on this dude. His dad is 86 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 5: a Columbia University professor of anthropology, political science, and African studies. 87 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: What does that sound like? 88 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 5: While the candidate's mother is an Oscar nominated filmmaker, so 89 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 5: he comes from a family of filmmakers and Colombia African 90 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 5: Studies professors. 91 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: The family of education and entertainment. 92 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 5: The family moved to the Upper West Side from Uganda. 93 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 5: Upper West Side is where all poor, hardworking socialist people 94 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 5: end up from Uganda while growing up, but paid little 95 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 5: in rent because they were set up in the Columbia 96 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 5: housing situation. 97 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: So they got there and lived on that. 98 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 5: And Mamdani himself graduated from Bodwin College in Maine. 99 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: Has worked for. 100 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 5: Advocacy groups and nonprofits, like not really earning a salary 101 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 5: or you know, there's no measure of whether you accomplished anything, 102 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 5: kind of like the whole Obama Community Organizer thing. 103 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 2: Was also a music. 104 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 5: Supervisor brief for a Hollywood film directed by his mother, 105 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 5: which is nothing, and a short stint as a rapper. 106 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 5: That's his entire back ground in the working very Carl Marx, Yeah, 107 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 5: it really is. 108 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: Basically did nothing. 109 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: Although where'd family money come from? Because I mean the 110 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: wedding you're talking about, that's crazy money. You know. 111 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 5: I didn't even get a breakdown on actually where the 112 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 5: money came from. 113 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean, because an academic, you know, higher placed academic, 114 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: that's a solid salary. And I've never heard of this woman. 115 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: I suppose she might have a couple of victories in 116 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: the movie business, but I've not heard anything about that 117 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: where they get all that money. 118 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: I know his wife is successful. Also, they met on Hinge, 119 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: so good for him. 120 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: She's an illustrator, yeah, offer illustrator something. 121 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 5: She's some sort of artist person also. Anyway, this is 122 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 5: the stuff that I thought was interesting from the Wide 123 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 5: World of News newsletter today written by Mark Alprin about 124 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 5: the similarities between Trump and Mam Donnie and I actually 125 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 5: thought about this yesterday as I. 126 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: Was watching him for the first time. 127 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 5: I'd heard that he was good on the campaign trail, 128 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 5: but his various tiktoks and speeches and like he'd walk 129 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 5: out with a microphone and interview you know, people making 130 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 5: sandwiches and that sort of stuff, and he's really good 131 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 5: at that sort of thing. Both men possess a post 132 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 5: modern flare. They wink at the camera, they know they 133 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 5: are in a show, and they invite you to know 134 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 5: it too, which is interesting. I remember hearing this about 135 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 5: Letterman years ago. Norm MacDonald, the community the comedian, talked 136 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 5: about when he finally understood Letterman, when he realized that, 137 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 5: like you, the guest were the bit and Letterman and 138 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 5: the audience were in on the whole thing, and you 139 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 5: were like the foil, and every guest was and that's 140 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 5: why Letterman Show was so different than everything. And I 141 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 5: think that is exactly the postmodern thing that Trump and 142 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 5: this Mom Donnie character have done. 143 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: It's like, you mean, the voters, You and I are kind. 144 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 5: Of in on it, and we're like kind of making 145 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 5: fun of everybody else, which is an interesting trick to 146 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 5: pull off and healthy helping of I speak your language, 147 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 5: I get your references. 148 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: I am of you, whether it's the Heartland, which is 149 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: really amazing for a born to wealth New York real 150 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: estate developer, or this guy. I've seen some of the 151 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: social media stuff man, and it is straight out of 152 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: like top level TikTok influencer stuff. Yeah, his sense of 153 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: irony and hipness. And it's the way he handles the 154 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: camera and everything. He knows the language he ought to 155 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: be speaking. And that's you know, that's part of the 156 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: connection with the young. Plus you can get them to 157 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: fall for idiotic policies that will never work and never have. 158 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 5: But and Helpern goes through how Trump, you know, being 159 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 5: a TV star, understood all that, and Mom Donnie, for 160 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 5: whatever reason, you know, coming from a Hollywood filmmaker background 161 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 5: or whatever understands the modern world and modern med Also, Mamdani, 162 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 5: like Trump, wears his ideology on his sleeve, sometimes literally 163 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 5: in this case, in the form of branded jackets or 164 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 5: tax the rich merch but never lets you forget he's 165 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 5: in on the metajoke of modern politics, which is a 166 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 5: Trump thing. Also, this is all just a phony joke, 167 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 5: and they're all screwing you. 168 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: But I'm on. 169 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: Your side, right that whole deal. Both break the fourth wall. 170 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: Trump would call. 171 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 5: Into cable news shows unannounced, altering the news cycle on 172 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 5: a whim. Mamdani records Instagram videos directly addressing his constituents 173 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 5: with all the production values of well funded college activist groups, 174 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 5: and yet they work because he, liked Trump, knows that 175 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 5: message discipline in the twenty first century means being the 176 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 5: message yourself, living on social media and in real life 177 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 5: in synchronism tandem with you, so your message and you 178 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 5: you live your message every single day. Critics scoff at 179 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 5: this for both of them. They call it unserious or 180 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 5: narcissistic or both. But we are living in the age 181 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 5: on authenticity as performance. Neither man hides the fact that 182 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 5: he is selling something, but they are good at it, 183 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 5: and that in today's media ecosystem is more powerful than 184 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 5: one hundred endorsements from one hundred editorial boards that nobody ever. 185 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: Reads, which I think is interesting too. 186 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 5: You are the message, you are winking at people. They 187 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 5: are in on your joke that you've got going. In 188 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 5: a way that you look at other politicians. Postmodernism is 189 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 5: hard for me to wrap my head around. But when 190 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 5: I see somebody that's got the new thing, like Trump 191 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 5: and this guy, all the other politicians, they look like 192 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 5: they're from a hundred years ago in the way that 193 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 5: they handle their messaging and trying to relate to audiences. 194 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: That's such a great point though, and intriguing that the 195 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: way you establish authenticity is to admit you're not being authentic. Yes, yes, exactly. 196 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: I know he's not trying to job me because he 197 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: admitted to me that this is all a show. Okay, Yeah. 198 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: I always use the example of. 199 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 5: Trump going to the big Harley thing with all the 200 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 5: Harley riders, and every politician had always thrown on a 201 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 5: leather vest and ridden on a motorcycle or ridden on 202 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 5: the back of a motorcycle. If they didn't know how 203 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 5: to ride a motorcycle and warn the garb and tried 204 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,559 Speaker 5: to pretend they're one of them. Trump shows up in 205 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 5: a limo in his suit and says he doesn't like motorcycles, 206 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 5: and the crowd goes wild because he's authentically inauthentic. 207 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: Right right now. I'm just here for the votes, everybody. 208 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, But for whatever reason, that worked, And Mom, Donnie's 209 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 5: got a big slice of that too. And one more 210 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 5: thing on this before before we let it go when 211 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 5: he take a break. 212 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: Is he hates the Jews. Oh nope, something different, Okay, 213 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: go ahead. 214 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 5: I think he is a socialist and I think he 215 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 5: does hate the Jews. So he got that crowd from 216 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 5: that standpoint. But I also think he got a big 217 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 5: chunk of like the way Trump does of I do 218 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 5: things that everybody tells you you're not supposed to do. 219 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: Everybody tells you you can't say this. I said it. 220 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: Trump does that all the time, and Mom, Duddie, they're 221 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: gonna try to tell me I can't say a globalized INTIFA. 222 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: To screw them, I can say whatever I want. People 223 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: love that from there. 224 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 5: The person they're gonna vote for now, nobody's gonna tell 225 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 5: me I can't say this. Trump has done it on 226 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 5: a variety of topics, and this guy did it too, 227 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 5: And I think people that's with the enthusiasm for him. 228 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 5: He's from another country, so he can't be president of 229 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 5: the United States, but he could be a major player 230 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 5: mayor of New York gets a lot of attention, and 231 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 5: the Democratic Party is gonna have to deal with him 232 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 5: because he's gonna have such a you know, a prominent position. 233 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 2: How they're gonna do that, I do not know. 234 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: Trying to find that quote from that email about uh 235 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: ker kergarden freud perverse. Will people will do. They'll embrace 236 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 1: that sort of even if it is self damaging. 237 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll look into that. It's interesting. We'll be following 238 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 5: this for quite some time. I'm sure more on the 239 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 5: way stay here. Actor Orlando Bloom and singer Katie Perry 240 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 5: have broken up after a six year engagement. That's a 241 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 5: long time to be engaged getting married anyway. I'll bet 242 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 5: he couldn't handle being married, or now that she's an astronaut, 243 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 5: she couldn't handle being married to a non astronaut. 244 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: I'll bet that's right. Being gone for hours at a 245 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: time on her Space missions oh yeah. 246 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 5: No place to raise your kids. The Atlantic with a 247 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 5: piece about the movie Jaws on its fifty year anniversary 248 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 5: and what it meant about class struggle is being mocked 249 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 5: by some of my favorite people in a hilarious way. 250 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: So I hope you can stay tuned for that. 251 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: Excellent I'm so excited about that. Holy cow, we have 252 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: almost there's no time. All right, here's Neil. Nobody's talking 253 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: about the big beautiful Bill because some of the geopolitical 254 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: stuff that's going on right now, it's got all sorts 255 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: of stuff wrong with it, but it's got all sorts 256 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: of stuff right with it too, and those who profit 257 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: from what they're trying to fix are going to come 258 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: out hardcore against it. And I just think it might 259 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: be at the point where it's some horrifying sausage making, 260 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: but it's the best sausage we're gonna get. One of 261 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: the things they're going to get rid of is this giant, 262 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: incredibly expensive medicare scam. And I think this is a 263 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: good summary of how it works. And if your eyes 264 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: start to close gloss over, that's the point. That's how 265 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: they keep getting away with it. So in the eighties, 266 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: States came up with this government sanctioned racket of Medicare 267 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: provider taxes. The idea was to get more federal Medicaid 268 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: matching funds and therefore spend less from there general tax revenue. 269 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: We'll get the Feds to pay for our citizens' healthcare costs. 270 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: So that has enabled states to expand benefits and greatly 271 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: diminish the incentives to operate efficiently, meaning to squeeze your 272 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: tax dollars best they can. So here's how it works, 273 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: and this is a good summary. Keep your eyes unglossed. 274 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: States assess taxes on healthcare providers, mostly hospitals. They tax 275 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: the hospitals, they channel that tax revenue back into their 276 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: Medicaid program and spend it, which draws more federal money. 277 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: For every dollar the state's spend on Medicaid, they get 278 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: one to three dollars back from the Feds, and nine 279 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: dollars for every dollar for able bodied individuals covered under 280 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: Obama Care. Ooh, which Craig, the healthcare guru, warned us about. 281 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like these incentives. 282 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: So what about those poor hospitals getting tax this money? 283 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: No problem. They then receive more in Medicaid payments. Then 284 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: they pay in the provider taxes. The states make sure 285 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: a good chunk of revenue is routed back to the 286 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: hospitals so they're made whole plus more money. And in 287 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one, George H. W cracked down on this. 288 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer voted for it. Long story short, 289 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: but the states and the big government to Democrats have 290 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: found ways to get around that, especially through Medicare that 291 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: effort at reform. So the big beautiful bill is going 292 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: to really crack down on this stuff. You are going 293 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: to hear screeching like half of Congress is being murdered 294 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: in the streets about how this measure is going to 295 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: deny people their Medicare and their healthcare and children are 296 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: going to die of the common cold and the rest 297 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: of it. That's because the hospital lobby and the healthcare 298 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: lobbies are spending so much money to kill this. Just 299 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: be aware of what's happening, because it's about to start 300 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: in earnest. It was the movie Jaws and allegory about 301 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: class divisions in America. Of course, it's about a big 302 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: fish botton people. 303 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: Of course it freaking wasn't. 304 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't. 305 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 5: Put The Atlantic claims it was, and people are mocking that, 306 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 5: so stay tuned for that. On the fiftieth anniversary of Jaws. 307 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: Coming up Armstrong and Getty slowly, Pitch, I can go slowly. 308 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: It's come on down and chump some edition. 309 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: You gotta need a bigger proach. Terrifying. 310 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 5: The movie Jaws came out fifty years ago this summer, 311 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 5: horrifying swimmers all around the world and hoping to God 312 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 5: that as you bobbed around in the ocean you did 313 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 5: not hear a cello. 314 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: All right, bought them, bought them, but it Oh, so 315 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: this is funny. 316 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 5: This reminds me of our friend James Lindsay when he 317 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 5: and his friends did the Grievance papers. They put out 318 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 5: these fake studies. They're incredibly over the top and ridiculous, 319 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 5: but you couldn't tell them for the real thing from 320 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 5: the real thing, because the real thing is over the 321 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 5: top and ridiculous. 322 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: To that point, I'm going to do a mock one. 323 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: I could switch the mock one. 324 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 5: With the Atlantic piece and you wouldn't be able to 325 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 5: tell the difference. But the Atlantic has a piece out today. 326 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 5: The film Jaws came out fifty years ago this month. 327 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 5: It portrays Clash divisions differently from the novel that inspired it, 328 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 5: in ways it anticipated a fight that has arguably defined 329 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 5: American politics since twenty sixteen. 330 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: What Jaws got wrong is the title. 331 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: I thought it was about to fish bite and peeple. 332 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: It was. 333 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 5: It was about a scary shark biting people, and it 334 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 5: made people think, oh my god, that could happen to me. 335 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 5: The ocean and the end and they catch the shark 336 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 5: and it's a bloody finale and blah blah blah. 337 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: There's nothing else to it but that. That's it. That's 338 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 2: the whole thing. 339 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 5: And it's hilarious that the Atlantic is turning it into 340 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 5: some sort of class division and a commentary on today's politics. 341 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 5: It anticipated today's politics or whatever the crap. Anyway, Noah 342 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 5: Roffman of The National Review decided to. 343 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 2: Write in that style, mocking it. Basically. Charles C. W. 344 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 5: Cook, who Joe and I both really like, responded to 345 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 5: Noah's peace by saying, I am in awe. 346 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 2: Let me read a little bit from it. 347 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 5: The character Quint, that's the guy we just heard from, 348 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 5: the guy who owns the boat that says we're in 349 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 5: need a bigger boat. He's the salty old dude. 350 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: The character quint represents the suppressed male id, which struggles 351 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: against structural and metasocial taboos, prescribing the full expression of 352 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: the archetypical masculine ethos. 353 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: He is consumed by the sleek. 354 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 5: White metaphor of sexual equality, against which which he rages. 355 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 2: Until the last minute he bids farewell and ado, not. 356 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: To those Spanish ladies, but to the shackles of conventional 357 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: gender roles. Exactly what I thought, That's what I took 358 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: from it. 359 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, when I watched the Shark movie. I mean, this 360 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 5: is no more over the top than the Atlantic piece. Really, 361 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 5: the drive to open the beaches by the fourth of 362 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 5: July is a classic expression of American jingoism and the 363 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 5: blood spilled over his rote commitment to commercialism as an 364 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 5: unremarkable feature of the rapacious capitalist enterprise. 365 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: I find that sort of. 366 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 5: Thing hilarious, and that it is so not even this 367 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 5: much different from the actual pieces. 368 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: Some of these crazy people write about this stuff right right, 369 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: so easy to bamboozle them if you know the language 370 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: to throw around. 371 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 5: Noah Rothman actually said at the end of he said, 372 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 5: this is really fun. No wonder so many people do 373 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 5: it for. 374 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 2: A living. 375 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 5: One more jaws, A portrayal of the monstrous, menacing, and 376 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 5: potentially violent other foreign, indeed alien. It haunts its pursuers, 377 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 5: dominates their conscience, and is subject to abuses and indignities 378 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 5: until it meets out the righteous vengeance of accumulated transgenerational memory. 379 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 5: The Shark is the global South, the black and brown 380 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 5: diaspora of the bun Dung Revolution, whatever the hell that means. 381 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 5: And I'll just give you one more that I like 382 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 5: Martin Brody. Who is is? 383 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 2: Is that? 384 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: The uh oh Brody is the police chief right. 385 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 5: Okay, the weak and crumbling edifice of the post war consensus, 386 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 5: exhausted and plagued by indecision. He serves as our link 387 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 5: to the fraying social order of the past. His triumph 388 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 5: is pirate. I mean, it wasn't worth it. Perched atop 389 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 5: a sinking ship, dealt a mortal blow by the rising 390 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 5: vanguard of the subjugated and militant, His reprieve from the 391 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 5: oppressor's fate will be short lived. 392 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: The Atlantic pea is great. The Atlantic piece that I 393 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: read is so not much different than that. Yeah, And 394 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: it's just who dude are? 395 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 5: It gets to the previous conversation of like Trump and 396 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 5: this man, this New York mayor dude whatever his name 397 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 5: is being in on the joke. 398 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: Is the Atlantic in on the joke? 399 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 2: Do they know it's a joke. 400 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 5: And they're writing it for their readers who think it's 401 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 5: a joke, or they all taking it seriously? 402 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 2: This crap. 403 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: No, you know it crystallized in my head. But in 404 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: the same way that if you want to like get 405 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: the tension, or sell practically anything to a twenty three 406 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: year old male, at least in the past, appeal to 407 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: sexual desire and they'll just buy anything. And to women 408 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: it's you'll be beautiful and desirable and people will like you. 409 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: They will freaking buy anything. Appeal to the intellectual vanity 410 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: of a certain crowd, and it's it's mostly on the left. 411 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: You if you make them believe believing this makes you 412 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: better and smarter than everybody else, they will believe freaking anything, 413 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: no matter how laughable it is. Lendsy and pluck Rose 414 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: and Bogosian with their experiment you mentioned the infamous the 415 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 1: Grievance study papers. I mean, they are the best example 416 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: ever of that. You could not make it so stupid 417 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: that the intellectual vanity of these people wouldn't make them 418 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: lap it up. 419 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Atlantic piece is actually about the different political 420 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 5: orientations of the book versus the movie, and how the 421 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 5: movie got it wrong in portraying class distinctions as. 422 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: Opposed to the book. 423 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 5: Nobody watched the movie and came away from it thinking 424 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 5: about class distinctions at all. 425 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: It didn't get them wrong. It didn't get them at all. 426 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 2: It's a it's a horror film. 427 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: It's just a short close the beaches, or don't we 428 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: there's tremendous money at stake. That's just a really good subplot, sure, exactly. 429 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: And whether it's a guy in a hockey mask coming 430 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: on campers with an axe or a shark in the water, 431 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's got nothing to do with class. 432 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 2: Distinctions or any of this other crap. 433 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 5: And it didn't foresee our politics fifty years later. 434 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 2: What is wrong with you people? 435 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: If you were to read more of the Atlantic one 436 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: and then give us all an hour to go about 437 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: our lives, I think it would be impossible for each 438 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: of us to remember which one was the parody and 439 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: which one was realized. Is your point, obviously, But yeah, 440 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: what a bunch of mumbo jumbo. There are some ideas 441 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: so ridiculous only an intellectual would believe them. Thomas Sowell. 442 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing. 443 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 5: And talking about the Brody is a recent transplant from 444 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 5: New York City. This is from the Atlantic, the actual piece. 445 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 5: Brody the character. 446 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 2: You should have just. 447 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: Read it and asked us which one was. They just guess. 448 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 5: Brody, the character in the movie, is a recent trans 449 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 5: plant from New York City in the film, living a 450 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 5: seemingly idyllic life, and Amity went a home with a 451 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 5: home on the water, although he is not college educated. 452 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: What the hell's it got to do with any. 453 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 2: And did anybody even know that? 454 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 5: His primary virtue is that he defers to people who 455 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 5: are and he becomes a foil for Amity's working people, 456 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 5: who in the film are portrayed as unpleasant or obtused 457 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 5: and at best well meaning but shortsighted. 458 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? 459 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: That was what I said. I walked out of Jaws 460 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, honey, the working people 461 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: are so obtuse in that movie. I couldn't enjoy it. Yeah. 462 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 5: And if you ever go to Universal, and we've probably 463 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 5: most have us done that. If you've ever been to 464 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 5: Universal Studios in Los Angeles and the old Jaws shark 465 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 5: comes out of the water and you go, ah to. 466 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 2: Gets you kind of wet. 467 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: That's exactly what you think. 468 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 5: The obtuseness of the working class, that's what you're thinking about. 469 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: Wow, just you know what, you peep a fine, do 470 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: what you I just don't want you in charge of anything. 471 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 5: Well yeah, I used to think that too. I don't 472 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 5: want you to exist, doll. Or you need to be 473 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 5: in a camp or okay, fine, you can live your 474 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 5: free life is in camp, but you don't get to 475 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 5: be in college teaching kids this crap and convincing him 476 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 5: it's true, because that is a problem for me. 477 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: So true. Yeah wow, speaking of delusion, Wow wow, I mean, 478 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: it just blows my mind that you watched the Shark movie. 479 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: That's what you came away with. 480 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: Well, it's it's a great example of if you spend 481 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: your all of your time looking for something, you will 482 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: find it well, whether authentically or not. It's like the 483 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: race obsession crowd that sees everything through the lens of race. Well, yeah, 484 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: they'll cook up you know. Examples both real and imagine 485 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: where people have racial feelings that aren't very pretty, but 486 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: if you don't spend all your time looking for them, 487 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: like plenty of black and brown and pink people all 488 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: over the world, it's just not worried about it. Life 489 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: is fine. I just in my mind conflated the two 490 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: I was thinking. I was about to say in the 491 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: the the example of the shark as the other representing 492 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: the brown and black. 493 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: No, that was Noah's thing, right. 494 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah. Did you ever have a college class like this? 495 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 5: This was hot, like for our age, subliminal message in 496 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 5: advertising and how they're doing it all the time. And 497 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 5: I remember the college professor putting up a can of 498 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 5: coke with the water droplets on it and saying, you 499 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 5: see how this water droplet is clearly a woman's body, 500 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 5: and this one is It's no, they're just water droplet's. 501 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 5: It's like staring at clouds and you can think they 502 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 5: or anything. There's no subliminal anything going on here. It's 503 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 5: just you're making this all up. This is crap. 504 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: Whatever. 505 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just sound confident and people will buy it, 506 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: particularly if you're you know, within the ivied walls of 507 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: a university, and if you're angel old youngsters. They don't 508 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: know better. 509 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 5: Combined with I just need to remember this because you're 510 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 5: going to ask me about it on the test. 511 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: So, okay, have you heard of the four Am Club? 512 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 2: I have not. 513 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: This is not getting a fraction of the coverage it should. 514 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 1: It is the QAnon of the left, Okay, but the 515 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: press isn't writing about it because they know it makes 516 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: lefties sound wacky. But it's way out there. 517 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 2: Are you gonna tell us about it coming up? 518 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: Yeah? 519 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, okay, because I'm interested in that. 520 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 5: I wonder where it comes from too, because Q was 521 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 5: supposedly a guy like deep in intelligence. 522 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: Still this government, Yeah that's true. 523 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: I know somebody who's currently Q and on. 524 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: So some diehards are still hanging with that obvious fraud. 525 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, we got a lot on the way. Stay here. 526 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 6: A new Amber alert in Idaho in urgent search at 527 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 6: this hour for two teenagers, a brother and a sister. 528 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 6: Authorities are looking for thirteen year old Alan Fisher and 529 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 6: his sister, fifteen year old Rachel. Their mother, Elizabeth Rowndie, 530 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 6: says someone hauled her teens away in a car outside 531 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 6: a store in Monfieu. At least say someone might be 532 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 6: taking those teams to an FLDS group religious group in Utah. 533 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 6: They are looking for a grey Honda or Hondai, a 534 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 6: Saddan with Utah plate. 535 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: So some sort of cult kidnapping working. The teens disappeared 536 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: by cults in a sedan desk, Katie Green, What's going 537 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: on here, Katie? 538 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 7: Well, So David Muir left all of the details. 539 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: I know when I saw that story. I saw that 540 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: story last night. I thought, this leaves like five obvious questions, 541 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: you idiot. Yeah. 542 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 8: So these two teenagers, the thirteen and the fifteen year 543 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 8: old there, brother and sister, they get reported missing out 544 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 8: of Idaho. 545 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 7: What David Muir left out. 546 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 8: Is they think that they've been picked up by their 547 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 8: older sister who went missing back in twenty twenty two. 548 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 8: Now this family had escaped an FLDS religious cult in Utah. 549 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: What is that stand for again? 550 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 3: Uh? 551 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,959 Speaker 7: Something like Saints. 552 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: You're like your splinter Mormon group, Yeah, okay, fundamentalist Church 553 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints Okay, all right. 554 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 7: And they were. 555 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 8: Part of this cult in Utah that was intense. And 556 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 8: so the mom took the kids and moved to Idaho 557 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 8: and they ate the daughter once she turned eighteen, took 558 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 8: back off and went back. 559 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 7: To the religious cult in Utah. 560 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 5: And so what she'd been in it so long, she 561 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 5: got fully indoctrinated in right. 562 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 7: And she totally brainwashed. 563 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 8: And so what they're thinking is that the older sister 564 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 8: came back and got her two younger siblings and then 565 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 8: took them back to the cult. 566 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 2: Thinking she's doing them a favor. 567 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: Right, probably. So, yeah, which is why every radical political 568 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: movement seeks to indoctrinate children. It's critical to their success. 569 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: That's what's happening in your government schools right now, folks. Anyway, 570 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: I hate to be a Captain Apocalypse all the time, 571 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: but if you don't study political movements through history, you 572 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: don't see the framework of why they're doing this and 573 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,719 Speaker 1: why they're teaching all this crap in schools. I mean, 574 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: your kids can't read and write, they can't do math, 575 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: but they're being taught about radical genders. That seems weird. Well, 576 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: it's a deliberate plan. 577 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 5: And the psychology we've all learned now that whatever, when 578 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 5: you learn something, the first thing you learn is very 579 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 5: hard to shake, like really hard to shake even in 580 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 5: like in the face of all kinds of evidence that 581 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 5: what you learned first was wrong. 582 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: It's really hard if the person. 583 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: Who told you the first thing comes back and says, 584 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: I was mistaken, that is wrong. Here is what's right. 585 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: Your brain will cling to the first thing. 586 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 2: It's troubling. 587 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 7: It's just got a little more sick. 588 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 8: The FLDS is the Mormon fundamentalist group where members practice. 589 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 7: Polygamy okay here, which. 590 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 8: Is prohibited obviously in the traditional Mormon. 591 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: The legend good grief. 592 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: Okay. 593 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: So it's kind of a change of topic. Are we 594 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: headed to world toward word that went poorly? Is world 595 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: War three? You gonna break out? Not? According to Gea Prism, 596 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: a self proclaimed psychic and founder of Mood, that's the 597 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: closest thing the left has to QAnon. It's called the 598 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 1: four Am Club. 599 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: Now. 600 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: It's not about getting up before the sun to get 601 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: a good run in or melt the gout of the gym, 602 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: or to even pray or study the Bible. It's a 603 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 1: confederation of quote unquote spiritually inclined women who all claim 604 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: to have woken up suddenly around four am on November sixth, 605 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: What that's Election day with a sinking feeling that Donald 606 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: Trump had won the election. Checking their phones. Their feminine 607 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: intuitions were confirmed, except that they don't really believe he won. 608 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: Hang in now, the four Am clubbers believe that we 609 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: really are living in an alternate reality where Trump is president. 610 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: At four am on November sixth last year, that's when 611 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: the timelines split, and it's only a matter of time 612 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: before we all realize it and get back on the 613 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: correct timeline where Trump failed and Kamala Harris took a 614 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: rightful place as chief executive. 615 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 5: They watch too much Loki, so you need the Time 616 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 5: Variants Police to show up and fix this whole thing. 617 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: Or the Waki hot Dog Finger movie with all those 618 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: parallel universes. Right, yeah, said one member who posts on 619 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: TikTok quote. I have been steadfast, so rock solid in 620 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: my belief that she won, and it was only a 621 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: matter of time before we all got onto that timeline. 622 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: My friends have looked at me like I'm crazy and 623 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: told me I'm delusional because you wonder why, Yeah. 624 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 2: You're crazy, and delusionals the reason. 625 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: But then, and this is why I'm sorry for the inconvenience, 626 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: We must unplug the Internet. Then she found the others 627 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: just like her, those of us in the four Am 628 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: Club viscerally experienced that timeline split. This is the vision, 629 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: this is the light that we have been holding. Another 630 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: four am are explained. There are hundreds of videos with 631 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: millions of views on four AM Club, videos on TikTok, 632 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: and additional chatter on left wing Reddit, and they're pop 633 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: scularity is only grown. A lot of them are made 634 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: by self proclaimed which is mystics, mediums, clairvoyance, intuitives and 635 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: the like. 636 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: Well, my whole theory on this, and I don't probably 637 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 2: not my theory. I probably read it somewhere. It's probably obvious. 638 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 5: Uh as we now live in this world where you 639 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 5: don't have the slightest idea what's true or not. As 640 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 5: our old producer Sean used to say, every news story 641 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 5: comes as a homework assignment. You now have to you 642 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 5: hear a news story you're interested in, and you now 643 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 5: got to do the research to try to figure out 644 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 5: if it's real or not, or how much bitter's real. 645 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 5: Living in that world has made us all super susceptible 646 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 5: to or want to cling to some solid piece of something, 647 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 5: and it's made this sort of thing a lot easier 648 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 5: to get going. 649 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: I think. 650 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: Well, and you combine that with what I've discussed several times, 651 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: which is that in the old world, if you had 652 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: a hair brained idea, you would try it out in 653 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: your friend group, you'r commune, your workplace, whatever, and you 654 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: would get a lot of your out of your freaking 655 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: mind and realize, oh, that's a hair brained idea. Now 656 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: you go to the Internet and you can find ten 657 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: or one thousand or a million people who say your 658 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: hair brained idea about sex with children or neo Nazism 659 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 1: or whatever. They will tell you that's a great idea. 660 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 5: All right, four Am Club, knock yourself out. If you 661 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 5: missed a segment or an hour, get the podcast Armstrong 662 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 5: and Getty on demand. 663 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 6: More on the way Armstrong and Getty