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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Oh from South Florida to Venice, California. Good Monday Day too,

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Speaker 4: you May twenty fifth, twenty twenty It's episode two fifty

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Speaker 4: one of the Anik and Florian Podcast. You ever had

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Speaker 8: Right, it'll slow off the top.

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Speaker 4: Today Memorial Day here in the United States, and this

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Speaker 4: day today on this Monday and this holiday because of

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Speaker 4: and we salute all the military members, past, present, future

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Speaker 4: off the top today. A lot of our audience is

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Speaker 4: to acknowledge Ken Flow, who is celebrating a birthday tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: I kind of wish we had the May twenty six

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Speaker 4: You got your anikin Floor podcast, sweitshir, I sure do.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we are old fucking men. TJ's pitching before

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Speaker 4: Thankfully he doesn't have COVID nineteen, but he's thirty six

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Speaker 4: years old, and it's like, Bro, you don't even know

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Speaker 5: You know, I'd take thirty six right now.

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Speaker 7: I thought I was at my prime at thirty six

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Speaker 7: right around there, though, you know, it's kind of a

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Speaker 5: So right, twenty four is like in my mind, like

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I met you, you were like thirty one. You

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Speaker 4: So coming up at about ten minutes, UFC featherweight contender

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Speaker 4: Calvin Caterer out of MATHU in Massachusetts. He'll join us

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Speaker 4: Bandamway contender Corey Sanagen in the middle. We will get

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Speaker 4: predictions on UFC Fight Night, Woodley versus Burns. I'm very

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Speaker 4: to Boston's Cater, let's get to headlines.

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Speaker 2: Headlines. It's time for headlines. I have some very urgent

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Speaker 2: and important, breaking new headlines. I'm the John Nick and

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Speaker 2: Kenny Surians podcast.

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Speaker 4: All right, Ken Flow, I got three topics for you today.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna tell me which one you want to discuss,

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Speaker 4: Francis and Ghanu versus John Jones. I had a chance

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Speaker 5: Kid? God, those are juicy ones. Man.

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Speaker 4: So he was short winded, and a lot of people

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Speaker 4: are asking journalistically why I didn't follow up. You know,

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Speaker 5: Whoever wins that fight in the future.

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Speaker 7: So I think when you get two people that are

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Speaker 7: Right And what is that due to John Jones if

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Speaker 4: I think they need clarity and at least finality in

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Speaker 4: So basically, Connor was just talking about some of his

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Speaker 4: Connor McGregor has twenty two pro wins, twenty of them

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Speaker 5: You know, that's a guy who has accomplished a lot.

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Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying, really, And Demitrius Johnson's a good

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Speaker 4: But that's just my two cents on that. Mike Tyson

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Speaker 4: so looks great at fifty three years of age. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I want to be skinned, you know, I want to

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Speaker 4: be skins. I remember being a kid. I'm like, please

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Speaker 4: be fucking shirts. Please fucking shirts. Got it, wax my back?

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Speaker 4: I want to be shirts. But Kenny, this is incredible, right,

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Speaker 4: And there's been a lot of talk with with The

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Speaker 4: Any part of that, and I believe Tito Ortiz's name

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Speaker 4: But it is tough, right, Ken flow, because you gotta

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Speaker 8: I don't think you can say. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 7: I mean, for Mike Tyson, he looks phenomenal. I just

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Speaker 3: Everyone's talking about we're not checking kicks, man. I might

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Speaker 9: Just little things.

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Speaker 3: There's always things you could work on. But like I

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Speaker 3: So we've got the job done. But my goals are

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Speaker 4: And I was happy to hear Danygay drop your name,

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Speaker 8: They're calling your name years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my buddies are giving me shit all about They're like,

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Speaker 7: And that fight against upbeat Man, it seemed like pigs

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Speaker 7: finishing a true veteran and Jeremy Stevens, a guy who

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Speaker 7: wins a lot of fights by knockout. But you went

438
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Speaker 7: out there, it was skillful, it was dominant, and you

439
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Speaker 7: got the finish.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nice to, you know, see things work out

441
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Speaker 3: the way you hope they would, and that's just through

442
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Speaker 3: a lot of hard work, our sacrifice, being ready preparation.

443
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Speaker 3: You know, we Tyson put together a great game plan.

444
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Speaker 3: We had you know, ja col in the mix for me,

445
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Speaker 3: Like I said, more consistently the rest of it didn't

446
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Speaker 3: hit the ground into the rest of them. But I've

447
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Speaker 3: been doing semestern too. I still got a lot more

448
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Speaker 3: to show.

449
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Speaker 9: Man.

450
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Speaker 3: These guys are just seeing glimpses of it here and there.

451
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Speaker 3: Like I said, I just kind of got back not

452
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Speaker 3: so long. I really feel like I'm in a good element. Plus,

453
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Speaker 3: we've got Rob font coming back from right, you know,

454
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Speaker 3: being injured. We just got to come back to some

455
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Speaker 3: wing chun. He's a savage, right now he's just he's studying. Man,

456
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Speaker 3: he's on point. I'm ready for him to get back.

457
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Speaker 3: I'm hoping to get another fight soon, and then try

458
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Speaker 3: to get on a car with him towards the end

459
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Speaker 3: of the year when he's he's back and up and running, well,

460
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Speaker 3: maybe coming in boxing, because you know they're to come

461
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Speaker 3: around around that time.

462
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Speaker 4: All of us MASK guys are rooting for one, if

463
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Speaker 4: not both of you guys to really break through in

464
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Speaker 4: terms of the preparation though during a global pandemic, when

465
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Speaker 4: you are a top contender like yourself or like Rob font, Like,

466
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Speaker 4: how many weeks do you need to get down to

467
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Speaker 4: one hundred and forty six pounds to fight a fellow

468
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Speaker 4: top contender?

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Speaker 3: Well I did it in two weeks, dre peely, But

470
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Speaker 3: I don't recommend that.

471
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Speaker 4: Right right right, That was That's a different time though.

472
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Speaker 4: I mean, now you got that are six next to

473
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Speaker 4: your name.

474
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so now it's different though. For him, it was

475
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Speaker 3: like I got caught slipping over the summer. I was

476
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Speaker 3: indig last fight. I was a little frustrated with you

477
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Speaker 3: know how I wasn't prepared for one of the biggest moments.

478
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to be a fight career, so

479
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,199
Speaker 3: that that happened. But at the end of the day,

480
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Speaker 3: you can't you can't wait for you know, those options

481
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Speaker 3: AREN'TNNA always wait for you to be ready that they

482
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Speaker 3: were shut too. I don't want to live with that regret.

483
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Speaker 3: I had good people on me, you know, talk me

484
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Speaker 3: into that one and we got done. But from man,

485
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Speaker 3: when you're in the UFC, you know your next fight

486
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Speaker 3: is gonna be in the UFC, unless you're you know,

487
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Speaker 3: on the street or whatever. But uh, you know, we

488
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Speaker 3: know that we're gonna have something coming up. He's trained

489
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Speaker 3: for me right now. We just haven't signed about yet. Right,

490
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Speaker 3: It's just easy to get up and be making more

491
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Speaker 3: of a lifestyle because you know you've got that contract.

492
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Speaker 3: Like I said, you made it into the biggest show.

493
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Speaker 9: Now it's time to air it out.

494
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Speaker 3: And really, diut, it's sucking it to be a too

495
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Speaker 3: professional because the only good one shot.

496
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Speaker 4: At this well and dude, you turn pro back in

497
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Speaker 4: two thousand and seven, and I know that's why you

498
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Speaker 4: one of the reasons why you wanted some respects sort

499
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Speaker 4: of put on your name for the body of work.

500
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Speaker 4: And it's all in front of you now, kid, you know,

501
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 4: thirty two years old, right, It's all in front of

502
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Speaker 4: you now. And I would think that if you could

503
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Speaker 4: go back to being twenty two years old, if someone

504
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Speaker 4: would say, hey, thirty two years old, you'd be entering

505
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Speaker 4: your fighting prime, potentially number six in the world. I

506
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Speaker 4: know there have been bumps, but you'd probably take it right.

507
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Speaker 3: Oh helly, yeah, you know what. I would have took

508
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Speaker 3: it after January eighteenth in Boston when I got that

509
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Speaker 3: w at home. That was special, man. But you always say,

510
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 3: I just give me this one, man, my first fight

511
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Speaker 3: back home. Everyone wants to see me fight. Just give

512
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Speaker 3: me this one, and you know whatever, right, right, right?

513
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 3: And then you win that one and then you're like,

514
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: all right, man, one more, I need this. You know.

515
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Speaker 3: It's always the next fight, always the next fight, you know,

516
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,719
Speaker 3: but we put it all on the line every time. Man.

517
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Speaker 3: It's a crazy sport we're in. But I just think

518
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Speaker 3: I'm addicted, TOUREDI adorenaline. I don't know what is really

519
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 3: I just want listening on the other side of each fight,

520
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 3: you know, bigger, bigger painty, bigger opportunity, uh for for

521
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Speaker 3: me to just you know, I just want what's on

522
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Speaker 3: the other side of w's on these fights, man, and

523
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Speaker 3: whoever's standing from the on the side, I'm gonna make

524
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Speaker 3: a hell of a night for him, man for trying

525
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Speaker 3: to trying to keep that from me.

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Speaker 4: You know, well that much we know, and we've enjoyed

527
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Speaker 4: watching your rise. I got a few rapid fire questions

528
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Speaker 4: here with Calvin Cator on the way out. So who's

529
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Speaker 4: your favorite Boston athlete of all time?

530
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kenny Forny And next question, yes, yes, Kenny's Regma.

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Speaker 3: I remember watching exactly. I just I seen him and

532
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Speaker 3: Joe going at it, all the bloods and ship and

533
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Speaker 3: I'm like, did you guys from Boston. I watched that fight, man,

534
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 3: that was really cool and I was like, man, imagine

535
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Speaker 3: you know, just getting in Boston's attention like that. I

536
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Speaker 3: remember just back in the day reading about it. First,

537
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Speaker 3: my goals were like, I'll be Fighter of the Month

538
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Speaker 3: on this on that website, you know, alwa, just want

539
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Speaker 3: to be a part of the month. And we hit

540
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Speaker 3: that and then we get you know, just kind of

541
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Speaker 3: like I want to get number one in New England,

542
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 3: both checkpoint number one New England. Now, I just want

543
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: to get an UFC checkpoint. Then We're just make any checkpoints, man.

544
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: But I remember early, I know checkpoints. I was watching

545
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Speaker 3: you and all the guys putting on for everyone around here,

546
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Speaker 3: and you got paid the way. So now's the second wave, man.

547
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Speaker 3: I want to kick that door now and bring that

548
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Speaker 3: that title back to Boston man. But definitely, yeah, Kenny for.

549
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Speaker 8: Let's go.

550
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Speaker 3: Some Boston boys over here. Joe. I love when I

551
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Speaker 3: show up the time job at the UF. I like

552
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Speaker 3: you right.

553
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Speaker 4: If you had said, uh that Joe Lo's alm was

554
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Speaker 4: your favorite Boston athlete, we might have had to cut

555
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Speaker 4: the interview short. But I got a few more questions

556
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Speaker 4: because you went with Ken flow.

557
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Speaker 3: Uh sot question next question.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So if the Patriots are eliminated next season and

559
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Speaker 4: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Tom Brady are still playing,

560
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Speaker 4: are you rooting for the Bucks or no?

561
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a Tom Brady fan man. At the end

562
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Speaker 3: of the day, I just respect him back. If we're

563
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 3: out of it, if we're in it, you know, it's

564
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 3: it's still a good day, man, because the Billy trust

565
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 3: back here. You know that.

566
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Speaker 8: But and I hope the Bucks get fucking killed. But

567
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Speaker 8: I still love you, cal all right.

568
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Speaker 4: Other than the champion Alexander Volkanovski. What is the dream

569
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 4: matchup for you right now at featherweight? If you could

570
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 4: call your next shot other than Volco, who do you

571
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 4: want to fight?

572
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Speaker 3: I really don't care, man, it's the best part. I'm

573
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Speaker 3: in the gym right now, practicing my wing tongue. Like

574
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Speaker 3: I said with rou Vaunt, I say, I'm thinking about

575
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Speaker 3: is anybody else that's stepping in in there with me?

576
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Speaker 3: I'm putting all my focus in and just you know,

577
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Speaker 3: becoming that athlete that that I think I could be.

578
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Speaker 3: And I work hard every day at becoming And I'm

579
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Speaker 3: in the gym right now, like I said, we're working

580
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Speaker 3: and uh yeah, So at the end of the day,

581
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Speaker 3: man across from me, I'm ready for anybody.

582
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Speaker 5: All right.

583
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Speaker 4: Two more greatest UFC featherweight resume of all time? Is

584
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Speaker 4: it Jose Aldo, Max Holloway, Conor McGregor or somebody I'm

585
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Speaker 4: not thinking of to be determine?

586
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Speaker 5: I like that all right?

587
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 4: And then lastly, the name of the pizza joint that

588
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Speaker 4: you go to the most in Massachusetts? You got like

589
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Speaker 4: a Mathu and House a pizza shout out or what

590
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Speaker 4: I gotta.

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Speaker 3: I gotta Ralphie's Italian Cafe. It's a cutlet shout out.

592
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Speaker 3: I'm more of a chicken palm guy than a bean

593
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Speaker 3: a pizza guy in this placed in Salem on twenty eight. Man,

594
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Speaker 3: it's the best color round. I get it after every fight,

595
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Speaker 3: and now I signed contract here just to get.

596
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Speaker 5: Another one healthy.

597
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Speaker 4: You can tell he's a Massachusetts guy calling to the cutlet,

598
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Speaker 4: not a fucking wedge like the New Yorkers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a cutlet guy.

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Speaker 4: Calvin Cater UFC Featherway contender, Congratulations on a huge win.

601
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Speaker 4: Hope you can enjoy it, and we very much look

602
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Speaker 4: forward to a potential quick turn and seeing what the

603
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Speaker 4: rest of twenty twenty holds for you, young man. But

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Speaker 4: we appreciate your time as always, buddy.

605
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Speaker 3: Likewise, thank you, gentlemen.

606
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Speaker 4: All right, there he is Calvin Cater, big win over

607
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Speaker 4: Jeremy Stevens, and it's interesting ken Flow because yeah, you're

608
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Speaker 4: Rodriguez had that body shot in the rematch with Jeremy Stevens,

609
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Speaker 4: and somehow, some way Stevens was able to fight through

610
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Speaker 4: it and come back and win that third round. To

611
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Speaker 4: your point, there aren't a lot of guys that are

612
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Speaker 4: putting Jeremy Stevens away that way because he just keeps

613
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Speaker 4: coming back, and so yeah, I think it's a huge

614
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Speaker 4: feather in the cap of Calvin Cater. It's just all

615
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Speaker 4: about that next matchup and what that might do to

616
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Speaker 4: position him to climb that ladder.

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Speaker 7: It was a huge statement. It was a huge statement,

618
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Speaker 7: big time exclamation point on that fight. I think it

619
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Speaker 7: truly showed to the rest of the division that he's

620
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Speaker 7: not just a good featherweight, he's an elite featherweight. And

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Speaker 7: I think it got a lot of people's attention and

622
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Speaker 7: the fact that he's out there finishing guys, you know,

623
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Speaker 7: continues to work hard, He's staying in the gym, saying

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Speaker 7: all the right things.

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Speaker 5: The future is very bite for Calvin Cator.

626
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Speaker 4: And his favorite Boston athlete. I mean, we don't preciate

627
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Speaker 4: these guests, right. He was right there with the ken flow.

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Speaker 4: He's a sharp kid because he knows what answer I

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Speaker 8: All right, speaking of it too funny, let's get to

659
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Speaker 8: the Ray Long Minute.

660
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Speaker 2: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes.

661
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna punch a hole in this fucking chuck.

662
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 5: That's what I want.

663
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: The Ray Long Minute, the John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast.

664
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Speaker 4: All right, the Great Ray Longo now joins us live,

665
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 4: and there's no time to waste bemoaning the fact that

666
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: you're still not on video because one of your star

667
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 4: pupils USC Bandamway contender al Jamaine Sterling, who was featured

668
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 4: on the Anticonfloring podcast last week, by the way, is

669
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: gonna be fighting in a title eliminator on pay per

670
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 4: view June sixth in Las Vegas. We need to know, Ray,

671
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 4: has the flight been booked? Are you going to Las Vegas?

672
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 9: Oh? Man, let me tell you some First off, I mean,

673
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 9: with everybody being able to hear what you say, I mean,

674
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 9: I can't you think they want DC ripping me?

675
00:28:59,600 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 10: Apaul?

676
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 9: You think I want to be there and listen to

677
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 9: DC criticize me the whole He ruined those guys' career, John,

678
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 9: and he took it Montoya and those guys that finished

679
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 9: this too. You think I'm taking it. I've met such

680
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 9: a good career John, I can't take my chance.

681
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 3: I just can't take it.

682
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 4: I can't thank you all right, Like I mean, you

683
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 4: just have Al Joe taking up with d C. But uh,

684
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 4: hey man, that's a huge fight. All kidding aside, Aljamin

685
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 4: Sterling and Corey Sanhagen. This is a huge fight, a

686
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 4: true title eliminator at one hundred and thirty five pounds,

687
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 4: and if that belt is vacant, vacant right now, and

688
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 4: all indications are that it is, this is a huge fight.

689
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 9: Ray, No, this is this is a huge fight. Look,

690
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 9: I'm actually I'm at the gym now. He's we did

691
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 9: a UFC thing today, so Aljoel looked great, He's on point.

692
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 9: He's got another hard session tonight. This is really really,

693
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 9: uh this is a great, great fight. I mean, san

694
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 9: Haagan is tough. We know he's good. He's on the roll.

695
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 9: Al Joe is you know, he's the funk Master for

696
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 9: a reason. Uh, and I'll tell you what, man, I'm

697
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 9: excited for the fight. I in all seriousness, though I

698
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 9: don't I don't think I'm gonna make the fight which sucks.

699
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 9: I think, you know, I think it's coming from a

700
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 9: good spot. Like look, when this thing started, we were

701
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 9: in the heat of this whole pandemic, especially in New York.

702
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 9: So you know, he's got Al go and Al's always

703
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 9: been in the corner with him, So I was going

704
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 9: to take the lead on this one. And I think

705
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 9: that's what's great when you have a great team. He'll have, uh,

706
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 9: he'll have good people that he's been working with. He's

707
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 9: had the same guys to work with.

708
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, And it is what it is.

709
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 9: I wish it was at a different time realistically, But yeah,

710
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 9: I don't know. I think they I actually think they

711
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 9: kicked me out of the corner. I'm not sure yet,

712
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 9: but I'm I think. I mean, I know, I know

713
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 9: Aljoe told me. Sarah called him and said, listen, if

714
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 9: you won the fight and Longo drop dead the next day,

715
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 9: would that'd be good? Would that'd be a good victory?

716
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 9: So I mean, I you know, I guess I'm the

717
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 9: old guy.

718
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: In the room.

719
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 5: But wait, wait, what did he say?

720
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 3: What was that?

721
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 5: What was out?

722
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: No, I'll do anything that would be that would be

723
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: a good trade off.

724
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 9: I get the win and then we get to get

725
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 9: rid of him.

726
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 3: The same night.

727
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: So we know you celebrated a birthday recently. We know

728
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 4: you work out every day. I mean, do you feel like,

729
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: in all seriousness that like your age is being used

730
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 4: against you? Because I know a big part of you

731
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: is dying to be out there for your guy in

732
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: a huge spot.

733
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 9: No, one hundred, I think it's being used against me.

734
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 9: You know, it's just even with all the media stuff,

735
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 9: I feel great. Look, I'm gonna get that thing. Give

736
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 9: it to me now, man, while I'm healthy. I'll I

737
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 9: know I'll be able to deal with it. I'm not

738
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 9: even joking, but I gotta say, look, man, it's all

739
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 9: coming from a good spot. I mean, Matt's really adamant

740
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 9: on me not going and I got to give it.

741
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 9: You know, Like again, I could be pissed, but I

742
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 9: know it's coming from a good spot. So I think

743
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 9: you know, at the end of the day, I can't

744
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 9: arge you with anything, but uh, I don't want.

745
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: To beat it.

746
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 9: There's still something in the back of my head that

747
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 9: says we're going to be there, but we'll see what happens.

748
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 4: Well, hey, I mean I'm going out there for a

749
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 4: couple of weeks. If there was a way for us

750
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 4: to somehow drive there together, I would come pick your

751
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 4: ass up. And like, I mean, I don't know how

752
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 4: far north I can go with a cross country drive

753
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 4: ahead of us, but I wish there was a way

754
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: for us to get creative and somehow avoid the airports.

755
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 4: Is there anything you can do from a coaching standpoint

756
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 4: from home? I don't want to get you in trouble, Kenny.

757
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's like allowed to communicate with

758
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 4: the corner, but i'd imagine you'll be pretty anxious standing

759
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: up in your living room trying to watch this fight

760
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 4: without a direct line to the corner.

761
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Well, I mean.

762
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 9: They'll have you know, we'll we'll go over everything. I mean,

763
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 9: there's other guys in the corner that I'm close with

764
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 9: that you know watch me while I'm training them, and

765
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 9: you know, we're always in communication even when I'm not there.

766
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 9: So I feel really good with that. And you know,

767
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 9: I mean, like again, I don't it's just shitty feeling.

768
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: It's rare.

769
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 9: I don't know if I I think the last time

770
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 9: John I was not in somebody's corner was when Al

771
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 9: was on the show with you.

772
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: I think that was it, man, and that was crazy.

773
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 9: Watching That's on the bar every week. That was was nutty.

774
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 9: It's it's not a good thing. I'm not gonna it's

775
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 9: not a I'm really really really kind of upset about it.

776
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 5: But it is what.

777
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 9: This whole thing's been weird.

778
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 7: So but Ray, you know, I'm not trying to make

779
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 7: it feel better. But don't you feel like most of

780
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 7: the hard work, all the hard work is done really

781
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 7: in training. You're you're gonna be a part of that.

782
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 7: You kind of set them up for success. Get all

783
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 7: the training sessions in, you know during those fifteen minutes.

784
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 7: You know, it's the work really is done for the

785
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 7: most part.

786
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 9: Right, No, there's no question about it. To Kenny, that's

787
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 9: one hundred percent true.

788
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: And he's good.

789
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 9: I was just gonna do what he's gonna do. I mean,

790
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 9: that's really what it comes down to. I mean, I

791
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 9: mean the corner. Unless things go sound and you gotta

792
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 9: get a guy back on track, I mean, he knows

793
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 9: what to do. He's been looking great and sparring. We

794
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 9: got him a really good look for this fight. So

795
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 9: I'm really happy with everything I've seen, and it's gonna

796
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 9: suck not being there. It really is just more for

797
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 9: you know, because it's more for moral support, you know

798
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 9: what I mean. It's something that's been you know, we've

799
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 9: had success with and you know, but you know, it's

800
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 9: time for everybody to step up. We have a great

801
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 9: team and I think, look, I'm not going to be

802
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 9: around forever anyway, So I'm happy with the guys he's

803
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 9: got in his corner and they've all been working together

804
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 9: and for this fight. They probably even know him better

805
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 9: than I know him. So but he's been looking great

806
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 9: and like again, we worked out this morning and it

807
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 9: is what it is. Man, I don't know, I got it.

808
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 9: I'm really torn on this. It really does suck. I

809
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,959
Speaker 9: don't even know what to say, to be honest with you, No, it's.

810
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 8: Hard, and I appreciate you being candid about it.

811
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 4: I feel like it's also interesting because he could be

812
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 4: fighting for the belt in September on Fight Island and

813
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 4: then right like, if he was fighting for the belt,

814
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 4: would you go right? I mean, it's a very very

815
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 4: difficult thing when it comes to the high high stakes fights,

816
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: because I do believe Ray, if he's fighting for the

817
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 4: belt three four months from now, you're not gonna take

818
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 4: no for an answer.

819
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 8: You're gonna be in that corner.

820
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 9: What I look like again, this this thing is very

821
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 9: very strange because it is New York is still different.

822
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 9: I mean now the numbers are going down, so I

823
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 9: think even by the time I look by July, I'm

824
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 9: getting on an aeroplane, you know, I'll just be We

825
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 9: have the tools now to know what to do and

826
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 9: what not to do, you know what I mean. So

827
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 9: you'd have to make a I believe you'd have to

828
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 9: make a mistake now to really get hit with this thing,

829
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 9: you know what I mean, where you're touching somebody that

830
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 9: you're rubbing your face. But as long as you're diligent

831
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 9: with like a little social distancing and you're washing your hands,

832
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 9: I feel I feel, I feel good. I feel I

833
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 9: have the knowledge to avoid this thing. And it's just unfortunate.

834
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 9: But like again, if the camp would have started today,

835
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 9: I think it would have been a different story. But

836
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 9: at the time the camp started, uh, you know, we

837
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 9: had to make arrangements as if you know, me and

838
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 9: Matt Warringt gonna.

839
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 3: Be there, so you know it is what it is.

840
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,919
Speaker 4: Wow, that'll be a different look in that corner cam.

841
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 4: And but you're right, Aljo's got a lot of good people.

842
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 4: And if Ali quint is going to be in that corner,

843
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: I think you gotta feel pretty good that it's uh,

844
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 4: that's it, that it's in his hands.

845
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 9: A definitely knows the way I coach. I think he's

846
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 9: the closest guy to you know, be able to do that.

847
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 3: He's awesome.

848
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 9: I'm really you know, I love that guy. So he

849
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 9: knows what's going on. And uh, they've been doing a

850
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 9: great job. They started with al Jo. You know, they've

851
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 9: been training at OL's house. So like again, he's got

852
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 9: the same you know cass, the you know people that

853
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 9: that have always gotten them, you know, uh looking good.

854
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 9: So I feel good with the morobs and now and

855
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 9: everybody's been pitching in so it's it's great to know

856
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 9: that you're surrounded by people. I can pick up the

857
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 9: slack too.

858
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 4: And I'll be right there at the commentator table. So

859
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 4: if you need me to shout something in Aljo's direction,

860
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 4: just shoot me. A text and I'll see what I

861
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 4: can do.

862
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: I love it, man.

863
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 9: I just told DC he's going to handle the rest

864
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 9: for this fight.

865
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 3: DC.

866
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 9: He's got the wrestling, and I Quin has got the striking,

867
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 9: and Al Joe's good with his jiu jitsu and he's

868
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 9: got that covered.

869
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Speaker 3: So we're good.

870
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Speaker 9: Just tell DC to bring his a game. Start looking

871
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Speaker 9: at tapes on Sanagan if you can.

872
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Speaker 4: Hey, before we let you go, Billy c'es fighting this

873
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 4: Saturday too, shout out to your guy, Billy Q fighting

874
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Speaker 4: Spike Carlisle.

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Speaker 8: I believe on May thirtieth.

876
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 9: So oh, man, yeah, I don't even realize.

877
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 8: Get your head out of the gutter, Raymond.

878
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 9: We've we've had yeah, we've we've had this conversation before.

879
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 9: What a great kid. Billy Q was so best to

880
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 9: love him. And I think Provola is with him down

881
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 9: in Florida right now too, And Matt's got a fight

882
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 9: coming up June twentieth, I think, so they're gonna start

883
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 9: booking again, so I think by July I'm ready to roll.

884
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Speaker 5: All right, my man.

885
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 8: Well, we wish you a safe and healthy week. All

886
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 8: the best to al Jioe. We'll talk to you next Monday.

887
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 4: Which is obviously the pay per view week, and we'll

888
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 4: go a little bit more in depth on on Sanhagan

889
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 4: and Sterling at that point in time, Buddy, we'll talk

890
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 4: to you next Monday.

891
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 9: Okay, all right, guys, listen, man, enjoy the rest of

892
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Speaker 9: the weekend, man, enjoy the Memorial Day.

893
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Speaker 4: Thanks right, You're the greatest, Buddy Ray long minute every

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Speaker 4: from Parkland, Florida. Quick update on the standings, so that

906
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 4: e Gay Barbosa fight was huge for Kenflow. That was

907
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 4: a three point swing, so Team Mannix still maintains a lead,

908
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Speaker 4: albeit a slight one.

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Speaker 5: Forty four, forty three.

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Speaker 4: As we hit UFC fight night, Woodley versus Burns, It's

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Speaker 4: nice to see you.

912
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Speaker 8: Ian Jonathan.

913
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Speaker 10: Likewise Kenneth, all right, So we.

914
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Speaker 4: Are going to rifle through some of these fights and

915
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 4: depending on how long we go, we'll try to get

916
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Speaker 4: to I think six here. We did do a Twitter

917
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Speaker 4: poll on the main event between Tyron Woodley and Gilbert

918
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 4: Durino Burns, about three thousand votes. Sixty eight percent of

919
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 4: you like Tyron Woodley to win. So I'll get that

920
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: out there now. We will get to the selections and

921
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Speaker 4: we will begin with the featured premium in the flyweight division.

922
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 4: So the sister Chevchenko trying to hand Caitland Chukeg in

923
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 4: back to back losses here Antonina the minus one forty

924
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 4: five favorite, Caitlyn Chukegen comes back at plus one twenty five,

925
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 4: so Chevchenko's eight and one. She submitted Lucia Pudolova back

926
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Speaker 4: in August. That was her first UFC finish. Chukegan on

927
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 4: the other side, stop by Valentina Chevchenko. That was a

928
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: title fight earlier in twenty twenty. Ian Parker interesting opener

929
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 4: here Chevchenko or Chukegi in for you if.

930
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Speaker 6: This is Week three of the NFL, we usually would

931
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 6: call this a trap bet, right all right, right, you know,

932
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 6: it's how do you how do you go from fighting

933
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 6: for the title to being an underdog in someone who

934
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 6: hasn't plaught anyone in the top seven. But this is

935
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 6: where thousand matchups, I think come into play. You know,

936
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 6: does Chefchenko Balzina pass it on to her sister and say, hey,

937
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 6: this is the blueprint?

938
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 10: You know they're not the same fighter.

939
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 4: This is a really, really tough fight.

940
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 10: I would not bet on this at all.

941
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 6: Just because to me, I just you haven't seen the

942
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 6: younger Chefchenko really fight this level of competition. However, I

943
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 6: do think her skill set presents a little bit of

944
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 6: a threat to Chikajian. I don't think Caitlyn moves around enough,

945
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go with Chefchenko here. I'm not overly

946
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 6: confident it. I just don't think there's enough underdog value

947
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 6: to take Caitlyn.

948
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 4: So Valentina as a resource Kenny and as Antonina's primary

949
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 4: training partner. I mean, these women just travel around the world,

950
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 4: training in all different disciplines all over the world. I

951
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 4: don't know what the saying is in terms of like

952
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 4: iron sharpening iron, but you can't do better than Valentina.

953
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 4: I was surprised that Antonina was favored here against the

954
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 4: recent world title challenger chu Kegin, but Vegas knows a

955
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 4: lot more than I do. Think about the featured prelim

956
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 4: kid well.

957
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 7: I also think it's interesting the fact that obviously one

958
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 7: of the ship Chekos sisters have already put into camp

959
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 7: against chake Agian, so they already have a lot of information,

960
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 7: a lot of intel. What better training partner than having

961
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 7: someone who fought you know you're you're next opponent.

962
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 5: So I think Schifchenko has an advantage for that reason.

963
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 7: I do think chake Agan, if she's able to take

964
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 7: Antonina down to the matt thinks could get interesting. I

965
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 7: don't think that's the strongest part of Shipchenko's game. I

966
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 7: think that's where Chikegan has the advantage, at least positionally,

967
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 7: where she can land some ground and pound, grind her out,

968
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 7: you know, get her tired or whatever. But I like

969
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 7: Chifcheko here as well. I think this fight for the

970
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 7: most part is going to be on the feet, and

971
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 7: I think she outpoints her all right.

972
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 4: A couple plays there for Antonina Chevchenko. That brings us

973
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 4: to the main card opener and the starweight division. Mackenzie

974
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 4: Dern minus four to twenty versus Hannah Seiphers, who is

975
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 4: plus three thirty five So durn making her second start

976
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 4: here since the birth of her first child life June,

977
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 4: and as usual, Ken for a lot of respect here

978
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 4: for Mackenzie Dern from the odds makers. How do you

979
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 4: see her here against Hannah Ciphers.

980
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think that she's definitely a favorite.

981
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 7: I was kind of surprised to see this big disparity

982
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 7: and that's a big number, so you know, yes, Mackenzie

983
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 7: should win this fight. I think that, you know, her striking,

984
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 7: she's kind of struggled, struggled there in that department. She

985
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 7: really is just kind of trading and showing a lot

986
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 7: of toughness, no doubt, but the way that you know

987
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 7: she's a grappler, She's a world class grappler. She's one

988
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 7: of the best women on the ground in UFC history.

989
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 7: Why isn't she catering her striking to set up her

990
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 7: takedowns more as opposed to just kind of going into

991
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 7: striking mode and then grappling mode. And it seems like

992
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 7: she's still kind of getting used to that transition as

993
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 7: a mixed martial arts grappler, so we'll see what kind

994
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 7: of changes she's made. Mackenzie is just a sweetheart of

995
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 7: a person. You know, on a personal level. Every time

996
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 7: I've met her, she's been amazing. And if she could

997
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 7: apply those same talents that she applied in the JUTICSU world,

998
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 7: I think she can go very far. Let's see how

999
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 7: she's improved. I do like her in this matchup. If

1000
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 7: she gets to the Matt Cypherus is in trouble, let's

1001
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 7: see if she could do that.

1002
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 4: So Mackenzie Dern minus four to twenty ian but seems

1003
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 4: to be pretty focused. The reports are that her weight

1004
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 4: is pretty good, which is a pretty good indicator I

1005
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 4: would think for Mackenzie Dern. On the other side, you

1006
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 4: know how tough Ciphers is. She has won two of

1007
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 4: her last three, but coming in here after a stoppage

1008
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 4: lost to Angela Hill her last time out. Any value

1009
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 4: on Cypher's plus three thirty five? Kid?

1010
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 8: Are you going with Mackenzie Dern?

1011
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 3: Oh?

1012
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 6: There's no value in this underdog here, and that's not

1013
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 6: a knock on Hannah Cipher's Hannah Ciphers is already undersized

1014
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 6: for this weight class. She's one of the handful of

1015
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 6: women that would really benefit from an adam weight division.

1016
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 6: Here's the thing, right, this is a woman who just

1017
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 6: got taken down pretty easily by Angela Hill. And even

1018
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 6: though Angela Hill we talked about her evolution, her overall game,

1019
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 6: she's nowhere near Mackenzie Dern in the grappling area, you know.

1020
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 6: And to answer Kenny's point, why McKenzie Durn's been having

1021
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 6: a strike because fighting something like a man the hebus,

1022
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 6: you can't just bul rush your way in and jiu

1023
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 6: jitsu your way to a victory against someone who we

1024
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 6: are now seeing is gonna be a top contender soon. However,

1025
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 6: I do think Vegas got this right, and based on matchup,

1026
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 6: I think mcken's Dern at minus four hundred actually makes

1027
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 6: a ton of sense between size and style. So I

1028
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 6: like Mackenzie Derning here as well.

1029
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 4: All right, nicely down, we move on to the lightweight division.

1030
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 4: Couple of Dana White contender series graduates.

1031
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 3: Here.

1032
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 4: You got Rosie Roberts, Roosevelt Roberts monus three hundred, brock

1033
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: Weaver plus two fifty, so Roberts nine and one. Thought

1034
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 4: he bounced back pretty well from what was a tough

1035
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 4: first career loss to Vince from Hell Pachelle went over

1036
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 4: the rapper slash fighter Alexander Yakovlev. Now he takes on

1037
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 4: brock Weaver Ian Parker. What do you think three to

1038
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 4: one favorite for Roberts against Weaver.

1039
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 5: If we were betting on who I thought would win.

1040
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 6: With the wayns brock Weaver is one of the more

1041
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 6: intimidating guys when he gets into your face. However, I

1042
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 6: think his last fight, besides the illegal kick, there was

1043
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 6: just a difference there. You know, in his last Contender fight,

1044
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 6: I didn't think that was his Cardios went one for

1045
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 6: him there in that way.

1046
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 4: He wasn't out grappling anyone, he wasn't out striking anybody.

1047
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 6: I think he got a lot of clout in that

1048
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 6: fight because he was fighting one of the top prospects.

1049
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 5: In the Contender series.

1050
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 6: I think Roosevelt Roberts experience in the octagon against some

1051
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 6: decent competition so far, I think the odds are a

1052
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 6: way heavier than I expected. I thought maybe minus one

1053
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 6: eighty five, maybe minus two hundred on a betting standpoint.

1054
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 10: You can't touch this.

1055
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 6: But I think Roosevelt Roberts has the skill set to

1056
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 6: keep his fight standing, and I think his striking we'll

1057
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 6: get it done.

1058
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 4: Here, can flow Brock the Chatta Tusca Weaver Repidmobile, Alabama,

1059
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 4: as Ian mentioned, won his UFC debut by d Q.

1060
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 4: That was his fifteenth pro win. He's won eight straight overall.

1061
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 4: But it would be a big upset here if he

1062
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 4: can get past Roosevelt Roberts.

1063
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 8: What do you think?

1064
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna keep it pretty quick, you know. I

1065
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 7: think Brock Weaver is a tough dude, no doubt about it.

1066
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 7: I actually, Ian, I think Roosevelt Roosevelt Roberts is the

1067
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 7: better grappler as well. I think he's got the advantage there.

1068
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 7: He's got some decent submissions. He's very aggressive there. Brock

1069
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 7: Weaver could post some problems on the feet. He's a

1070
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 7: powerful guy. But I like Roosevelt Robert here as well.

1071
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 4: All righty, And that brings us to Kevin Holland, who

1072
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 4: want to fight at middleweight nine days ago and now

1073
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 4: is a minus two thirty favorite against the plus one

1074
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 4: ninety underdog Daniel Rodriguez. Holland will compete at welterweight, second

1075
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 4: quickest turnaround in UFC history. So Rodriguez made his UFC

1076
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 4: debut big win over Tim Means Business. This will be

1077
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 4: the first welterweight fight for Kevin Holland since twenty seventeen.

1078
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: First welterweight fight in the UFC did have a weight

1079
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: missy and way back in the day in twenty fifteen.

1080
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be just fine making one

1081
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 4: hundred and seventy one pounds on Saturday. The question is

1082
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: does he beat Daniel Rodriguez and do you like the number?

1083
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 6: I think Dani Rodriguez was extremely impressive in his debut,

1084
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 6: but I also thought we saw Tim Means that wasn't

1085
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 6: fighting like Tim Means. He wasn't putting on the pressure.

1086
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 6: He almost took Rodriguez way too lightly. He was hesitant,

1087
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 6: he wasn't throwing his leg kicks, and we know Means

1088
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 6: as usually like an Nego Price type of fighter, and

1089
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 6: we didn't see that.

1090
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 10: So I think Rodriguez capitalized on that.

1091
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 5: I think Kevin.

1092
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 6: Holland's confidence is obviously through the roof coming out and

1093
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 6: just winning that fight last week, and he needed to

1094
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 6: win that fight after losing that last one to submit

1095
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 6: by submission as a heavy favorite, I think Holland comes

1096
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 6: out again.

1097
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 8: The odds here scare me.

1098
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 6: I don't really like that at minus two above minus

1099
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 6: two hundred, to be honest you because Tim Means is

1100
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 6: a pretty solid guy to get a win over.

1101
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 9: But I do think he wins this year.

1102
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 6: I think as athleticism and his confidence right now is

1103
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 6: through the roof. So I'm gonna ride the momentum here

1104
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 6: as well and go Kevin Holland.

1105
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 4: All right, Kevin Holland for Ian Ken Flow. Rodriguez is

1106
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 4: won seven in a row, came off Dana White's Contender series.

1107
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 4: He's part of that Joe Shilling camp out West. Your

1108
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 4: thoughts on Rodriguez here against Kevin Holland moving down to seventye.

1109
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 7: Rodriguez is tough, He's dangerous, but I like the way

1110
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 7: Kevin Holland fights. I think it's not gonna be so

1111
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 7: easy to make one hundred and seventy one hundred and

1112
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 7: seventy one. He's six foot three, yes, he is, you know,

1113
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 7: should be in pretty good shape coming off his last fight.

1114
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 7: But that's where I'm a little hesitant. I do think

1115
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 7: Kevin Holland is the more well rounded fighter. When he's

1116
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 7: out there freestyling and just kind of feeling the fight,

1117
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 7: He's gonna be a.

1118
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 5: Tough guy to beat.

1119
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 7: I'm really interested to see how a guy at six

1120
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 7: foot three does at Wealth Grate and if he does

1121
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 7: that moving forward, you know, for the rest of his career.

1122
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 7: I think he probably fits a little bit better in

1123
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 7: the middleweight division. But I like Kevin Holland. Man, I

1124
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 7: think a potential contender could emerge from this fight.

1125
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's gonna be a great fight, and

1126
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 4: Kevin Holland certainly has been worth the price of admission

1127
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 4: thus far. We'll see how it goes for him against

1128
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: Daniel Rodriguez, and that brings us to the Comin event.

1129
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 4: Close one on paper here between a couple of ranked heavyweights.

1130
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 4: We'll have Ken Flo lead the dance. Here on the

1131
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 4: comin event, you got Augusto Sakai minus one fifteen out

1132
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 4: of Kuti Chiba Brazil taking on buegoi Ivanov, who is

1133
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 4: the slight dog at minus one to zero five, so

1134
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 4: Sakai flow three to zero in the UFC thus far,

1135
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 4: a knocked out Marching Tabora Back in September five consecutive

1136
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 4: wins eleven career knockouts, but facing the uber tough Wuagoi

1137
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 4: Ivanov who nobody can seem.

1138
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 8: To put away. What do you think about the komain kid?

1139
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is a tough one as well. You know,

1140
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 7: if someone gets to finish's probably Sakai. But again, even

1141
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 7: Off is a very difficult, difficult guy to to take

1142
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 7: out of there.

1143
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 5: I got an insane chin. I'm gonna go with Sekai.

1144
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 7: I think that he's a little bit cleaner on the feet,

1145
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 7: moves a little bit better. I think even Off is

1146
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 7: extremely durable, can really get you tired and frustrated out there, So,

1147
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 7: you know, Sekai and maybe not having as much experience

1148
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 7: as even Off, I think that's something to consider. However,

1149
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 7: I do like Sekai here. I think he gets done

1150
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 7: by decision, all.

1151
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 4: Right, Sekai by decision, Ken Felly, you gotta be careful

1152
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 4: walking to the window and placing a bet against Buagoi Ivanovious.

1153
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 4: Now Francis and Gandhu's primary training partner of late, which

1154
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 4: certainly is something that it stands to reason, could help

1155
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 4: him in this fight. So for UFC fights, that's actually yeah, right,

1156
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 4: that could go both ways.

1157
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 5: Can flow.

1158
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 8: Don't fucking hurt the bush behind you. Kenny.

1159
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 4: By the way, Jesus Christ so Junior Dosantos over twenty

1160
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 4: five minutes, Big Ben Rothwell ty to I vasa Derek Lewis.

1161
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 8: Nobody's been able to put Ivanov away.

1162
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 4: He has been in trouble at times, but just legendary

1163
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 4: Chin thought through that stabbing obviously back in the day.

1164
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 4: Big win at the Combat Sambo Worlds over Fador in

1165
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 4: two thousand and eight. The guy is tested now trying

1166
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,479
Speaker 4: to make a UFC run. What do you think about

1167
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 4: the komayne Ian Parker.

1168
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 6: I thought Blogoy beat Derek Lewis. I think he is

1169
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 6: going to beat Sakai here too. You know, I'm surprised

1170
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 6: Kenny even said decision here because we haven't seen Sakai

1171
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 6: has even gone three rounds. We've seen, uh, Blago, I've

1172
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 6: done it quite a few times.

1173
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 8: And just once, all right, once twice?

1174
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 3: Which one is it?

1175
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 10: Seven times? He's done it seven times?

1176
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 9: Uh, he's knock got.

1177
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 5: Eleven, He's gone.

1178
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 10: He's gone three rounds sixteen times.

1179
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 4: I like Blagoy here.

1180
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 6: I think his wrestling, I think his clinch game, I

1181
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 6: think his cardio gets it done. You know that Shin

1182
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 6: is something else man uh it holds up and if

1183
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 6: Kai doesn't knock him out in round one.

1184
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 10: I think Blagoy takes him in the deep water.

1185
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 4: So I like Glagoy here and he's it's minus one

1186
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 4: oh five for our purposes, buego Ivana of a slight

1187
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: underdog all right, main event in the welterweight division.

1188
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 8: Let's fucking go. I love this fight.

1189
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: The number one rank contender, the former champ Tyron Woodley

1190
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 4: minus one eighty five against the streaking former lightweight now

1191
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 4: six ranked welterweight Gilbert Burns, who is plus one sixty.

1192
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 4: We will need the round and the method of victory

1193
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 4: here boys, little backdrop for you. Ian so Woodley pretty

1194
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 4: good history off of long layoffs, returning here for the

1195
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 4: first time since March of twenty nineteen. So when he

1196
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: beat Robbie Lawler was waiting for the title shot. He

1197
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 4: had been out for eighteen months. Then beats Darren Till

1198
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 4: it was a fourteen month layoff. Says he's in a

1199
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 4: violent headspace here and feels like that could be bad

1200
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 4: news for Gilbert Burns. What do you think, Ian Parker,

1201
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 4: who wins the main event here? In Vegas on May thirtieth,

1202
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 4: and how do they get it done.

1203
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 6: I think what Gilbert Burns has done in this division

1204
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 6: has been tremendous. However, I think he's running into something

1205
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 6: a little too much too soon. And listen, you can't

1206
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 6: you can't not take the opportunity. So I get it,

1207
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 6: But you're going from Damian Maya to Tyron Woodley. You

1208
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 6: know people are gonna question Woodley with the rap career

1209
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 6: being out for so long. People forget his wrestling credentials,

1210
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 6: being the champ, what he's done a black belt in

1211
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 6: Brazilian jiu jitsu as well. If this fight stays standing,

1212
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 6: I think Tyron Woodley has the better, better stand up.

1213
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 6: We also seen Toyron Woodley go five rounds with in

1214
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 6: my opinion, more well rounded fighters, with guys that are

1215
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 6: title contenders. I think Gilbert one day will fight for

1216
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 6: that title. I do not think it's now. I like

1217
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 6: Tyron Woodley here. He's gonna be the stronger guy. I

1218
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 6: think Burns, even though he's got no neck, I don't think,

1219
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 6: you know, I think it's gonna be tougher to get

1220
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 6: Tyron down. I know I keep saying I'm a lot

1221
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 6: right now, because I just don't know how he's gonna

1222
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 6: do it. I don't know if Gilbert Burns can go

1223
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 6: five rounds when a guy hasn't done it before, it's

1224
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 6: hard to really, you know, see what their cardio is.

1225
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna say that Woodley finishes him in the

1226
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 6: third round by TKO.

1227
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 4: All right, Tyron Woodley by TKO round three, the official

1228
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 4: Canny smile, Yeah, Parker, all right, ken flow. So Gilbert

1229
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 4: Burns eleven UFC wins five in a row. This is

1230
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 4: his first UFC main event, certainly deserves the opportunity. His

1231
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 4: teammate Kamara Ousman runs this division. Should be some good

1232
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 4: insight there. What do you think about Gilbert Burns's chances

1233
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 4: this weekend? I know when I heard you on another podcast,

1234
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 4: you had to lean towards Tyron Woodley, but.

1235
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 8: Not an official prediction. We need an official pick today, kid.

1236
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I find it interesting because Gilbert Burns

1237
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 7: has kind of been, you know, kind of like a

1238
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 7: cowboy Seroni where he's calling out everybody, he's taking fights

1239
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 7: on short notice and he's winning. So you know, that

1240
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 7: does a lot for your confidence, gives you a lot

1241
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 7: of momentum as a fighter. I do think that he's

1242
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 7: a guy that is obviously tremendous on the ground. I

1243
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 7: see him having the advantage, especially if he's able to

1244
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 7: get on top of someone like Tyron, either.

1245
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 5: With a reversal or takedown.

1246
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 7: Potentially, Tyron with that wrestling background, isn't going to give

1247
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 7: up a whole lot of takedowns against someone like a

1248
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 7: Gilbert Burns. I think going five rounds in the pass

1249
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 7: against guys like wonder Boy Damian My, I think that

1250
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 7: is such an experience advantage. And despite Gilbert Burns having

1251
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 7: a lot of momentum and confidence right now, you just

1252
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 7: can't make up for that level of experience.

1253
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 5: Now, where is Tyron's headspace at truly?

1254
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 7: You know, yes, he wants to go out there and

1255
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 7: hurt people and kind of make a statement, But how

1256
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 7: consistent has he been with his training throughout He's kind

1257
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 7: of been one of those guys, for better or worse,

1258
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 7: who has taken time off after a fight. He's not

1259
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 7: the guy who's in the gym all the time. He

1260
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 7: has a fight, then he gets back in the gym.

1261
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 5: You know.

1262
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 7: I hope Tyron is able to be in shape and

1263
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 7: be in the right headspace I think that's kind of

1264
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 7: been a problem with him.

1265
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 5: He's had to deal with a lot of things outside

1266
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 5: the octagon.

1267
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 7: I do think if Tyron is in shape, it is

1268
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 7: motivated and has been training, he could be anyone in

1269
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 7: the world. And I'm gonna lean towards Tyron Woodley in

1270
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 7: this fight. I'm gonna go with a fourth round TKO

1271
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:57,360
Speaker 7: for mister Woodley.

1272
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 4: Seems like a lot of people online too, seem pretty

1273
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 4: convicted that eventually Woodley would be priced even higher than

1274
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 4: he is right now minus one eighty five or so

1275
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 4: for our purposes. So all right, So only one dissenting

1276
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 4: selection on the comain event. So Buago ivanav and Augusto Sakai.

1277
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 4: We'll see who will have the upperhand next week. I

1278
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 4: in Parker MMA on social media. Hey, thanks, buddy, any

1279
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 4: final words? Longo's not on hold, Corey Sandagan is on deck?

1280
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 4: Anything else before we let you go?

1281
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 5: Kid? John is one thing. You gotta have a ground rule.

1282
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 10: Oh I'm good.

1283
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 3: I'm good.

1284
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 5: He went before me.

1285
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 6: As long as we keep him happy, it's moil day.

1286
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 6: I don't want to upset the old guy. It's all good,

1287
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 6: It's all love, all.

1288
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 4: Right, buddy, Good job handicapping, and we will talk to

1289
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 4: you next week. Obviously it'll be eight or ten picks

1290
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 4: on pay per view, so we'll let you go and

1291
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 4: start your homework.

1292
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 5: Kid.

1293
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Speaker 8: Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 10: You gotta have a good day.

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Speaker 5: Guys.

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Speaker 4: All right, Corey, Hey, san Haagan coming up here in

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00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 4: a minute. I'm totally fascinated, Kenny by this main event.

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00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 4: You thought I was gonna say something about that whole

1299
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 4: Longo Parker do. I was just gonna let that rest

1300
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 4: a little bit, you know. I talked to Longo after

1301
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 4: the fact and he's like, I'm surprised Ian didn't call

1302
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 4: and thank me. You know, you don't even you don't

1303
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 4: even think he did anything. So but this main event

1304
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 4: really piques my interest. And sometimes when I'm not going

1305
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 4: to be calling fights and I know I'm just going

1306
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 4: to be sitting home watching this fight, I get even

1307
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 4: more excited because recreationally, I could just sit down and

1308
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 4: watch a fight, and that's very exciting for me.

1309
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 8: So I can't wait to see how it plays out.

1310
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 4: But now joining us on the Skype machine from the

1311
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 4: Greater Denver metropolitan area, do you see his number four rank?

1312
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 4: Bandnam Wait in the world. A man who's fighting in

1313
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 4: a title eliminator June sixth in Vegas. Corey Sandhagen is

1314
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 4: with us. I know it's hell week out there, buddy,

1315
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 4: so we appreciate the time.

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00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 10: How you doing, Oh no, man, this is the easy

1317
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 10: way week. This is the taper week.

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Speaker 3: Man.

1319
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 10: This is the one where I don't have to go

1320
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 10: in and have a bunch of anxiety about having to

1321
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 10: die in training practice.

1322
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 4: All right, last week, so last week then would have

1323
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 4: been hell week, so to speak.

1324
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 10: Yeah, last week was hell week. I'm pretty much every

1325
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 10: week before that is, and then this week is a

1326
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 10: little bit chill, and then next week is chill.

1327
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 8: So did you get a new puppy yesterday?

1328
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 10: Yeah? No, know, not yesterday, I got him last week. Yeah,

1329
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 10: I got a little Corgi. We've been talking about it

1330
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 10: for a long time, and then I guess we just

1331
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 10: finally reached the amount of boredom that it takes to

1332
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 10: be a puppy. And yeah, so that happened.

1333
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1334
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, dogs are flying off the shelves and out of

1335
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 4: the rescue shelter, so that's a good thing. So all right,

1336
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 4: So it's been about two and a half years since

1337
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 4: you made your UFC debut. It was in Charlotte, North Carolina,

1338
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 4: and even then we sort of got this vibe that

1339
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 4: maybe we were sitting across from somebody who could be

1340
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 4: something special. You're five to zero in the octagon thus far.

1341
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 4: I know, the Frank Edgar fight went away. But as

1342
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 4: you assessed the first two and a half years, even

1343
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 4: though maybe it hasn't gone as quickly as you would like,

1344
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 4: how do you assess the overall body of work.

1345
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 5: That you put on paper.

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00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 10: I think it's kind of what I expected. I knew that.

1347
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 10: I mean, I came up in a really good gym,

1348
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 10: right like I trained at Easton's High Altitude Grudge. I

1349
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 10: mean really good gyms with really good people, and so

1350
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 10: I mean I kind of knew comparatively how I was

1351
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 10: kind of coming up through my years of training and stuff.

1352
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 10: So I knew that when I got here it wasn't

1353
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 10: gonna take me too long. I kind of just had

1354
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 10: a gut feeling about that. And yeah, but I mean

1355
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 10: two and a half years. I like to crank out

1356
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 10: fights as much as I can, and that hasn't really

1357
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 10: been the case for me for the last year or so.

1358
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 10: But whatever, man, I'm really happy. I mean I'm fighting

1359
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 10: for a potential next fight after this one being for

1360
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 10: the belt. So yeah, I mean I'm not gonna complain,

1361
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 10: you know, I'm happy about where I am, right, Yeah.

1362
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 4: And certainly I think most parties are absolutely looking at

1363
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 4: this as a bandamweight title eliminator and the winner of

1364
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 4: this fight will get a title shot. So six months

1365
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 4: after that Edgar fight goes away, you're getting that high

1366
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 4: profile fight. Look like maybe a Domina Cruz fight would

1367
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 4: happen in May that did not materialize even though you

1368
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 4: signed on the dotted line. So how have you sort

1369
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 4: of navigated the last six months physically, mentally, and emotionally

1370
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 4: as you try to peek for June six?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it's just always get better, man Like,

1372
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 10: ever since it was in the last, in the last,

1373
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 10: since my last fight in August, Like my only focus

1374
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 10: every single day is just get better, man Like, learn more,

1375
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 10: put that learning into actual training, and then take that

1376
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 10: into the fights. And like that really, man, as simple

1377
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 10: as it is, that's like where I keep my mind,

1378
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 10: or or I try to keep my mind every day.

1379
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 10: I'd be lying if I said I didn't stress out

1380
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 10: about all of this, all of this stuff, and like

1381
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 10: it not feeling like some type of rat race to

1382
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 10: get to the title. But it's just slow and steady

1383
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 10: every day. Man Like, as long as I feel like

1384
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 10: I'm getting better, that's it.

1385
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 5: That's it for me. Well, you can definitely see that

1386
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 5: you're getting better, Corey.

1387
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 7: It's been amazing to see your progression through your first

1388
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 7: fight in UFC to where you are right now.

1389
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 5: You've traveled a little bit. You actually trained with a

1390
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 5: buddy of mine, Ryan Hall, for a little bit.

1391
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 7: What were you able to pick up from Ryan and

1392
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 7: kind of what things did you take away for your

1393
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 7: own fight game?

1394
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 10: So more than anything, I mean, you know Ryan, Dude,

1395
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 10: Ryan's one of the best minds that this sport has

1396
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 10: ever seen. He's like one of the most strategic and

1397
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 10: capable people of being able to communicate strategy and being

1398
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 10: able to communicate I guess all of the just anything

1399
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 10: to do with combat really, So, I mean training with

1400
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 10: Ryan is really really made me critically think a lot

1401
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 10: about stuff. That dude is a really really critical thinker.

1402
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 10: He doesn't just take what you say as truth. He

1403
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 10: thinks about it. He puts things to the tests, and

1404
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 10: he really critically thinks. So I would say more than anything.

1405
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 10: That's the main thing that I got from training with Ryan,

1406
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 10: besides like a more than a handful of really awesome

1407
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 10: techniques that are going to help me incredibly. But yeah,

1408
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 10: I've been out there twice. I was supposed to go

1409
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 10: out there in April, but all of this Corona stuff happened,

1410
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 10: so I wasn't able to make it back there. But

1411
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 10: I mean that's something that I'm gonna do as frequently

1412
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 10: as I can. And that guy's a genius. Like, seriously,

1413
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 10: I've never met anyone in my life that I felt

1414
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 10: had more of an understanding of combat and fighting than

1415
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 10: that guy.

1416
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 7: Wow, couldn't agree with you more so, Corey about this

1417
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 7: coronavirus thing.

1418
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 5: How has this been a challenge for you? Obviously we've

1419
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 5: never dealt with anything like this.

1420
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 7: Have you been able to get your regular training partners

1421
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 7: and coaches in to kind of at least make it

1422
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 7: as normal of a training camp as you've had before.

1423
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 10: Yeah, but I don't try to make it normal. It's

1424
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 10: not going to be normal, So that normal hasn't really

1425
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 10: been the goal for me. It's just it's like, all right, well,

1426
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 10: how can I take what I got right now and

1427
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 10: just keep getting better every single day, so and not

1428
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 10: get sick because if I get sick, then I can't fight.

1429
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 10: So it's a lot of I'm being real careful who

1430
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 10: I'm being around. I'm only using three training partners and

1431
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 10: then I'm using my three coaches, so my circle is

1432
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 10: really small right now. But that being said, I've obviously

1433
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 10: chosen people that are going to give me good pushes

1434
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 10: and be good jailling partners, be good training partners. So

1435
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 10: I mean, honestly, I think it's been a little bit better.

1436
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 10: The spotlight's been on me every single practice, and I've

1437
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 10: been able to. I've been able to. This has been

1438
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 10: like my most I don't really know the verb for

1439
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 10: it or word for it, but my most learningess training

1440
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 10: camp that I've ever had, you know, like the just

1441
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 10: because everything is about me, you know which is which

1442
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 10: is good?

1443
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 7: And Corey last question, how do you deal with someone

1444
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 7: like Aljoel? How do you break that like down?

1445
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's well, I think anytime you have two guys

1446
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 10: that bring in a lot of the same advantages, it's

1447
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 10: it's an interesting match. So I think Algae is usually

1448
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 10: a little bit taller than people. He likes to kind

1449
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 10: of strike from the outside. He likes to move his feet,

1450
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 10: he likes to mix in like fun techniques very similarly

1451
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 10: to how I do. So we have the same advantages.

1452
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 10: So it's just about who's better at doing those advantages

1453
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 10: right or finding a disadvantage in the other person. Where

1454
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 10: I think I with what I bring in, I think

1455
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 10: that my advantages are even though they're the same, I

1456
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 10: think that I do them better. So I think that

1457
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 10: after that gets realized, he's going to start looking to

1458
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 10: find me in positions where I'm at a disadvantage. And

1459
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 10: I've been practicing a lot on where those areas might be,

1460
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 10: and then so if I do get there, then I'm

1461
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 10: not at a disadvantage anymore.

1462
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 8: So your corner will be intact.

1463
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 4: Though on June sixth, the same guys that cornered you

1464
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 4: last time, Are you missing a body or something like

1465
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 4: that or no.

1466
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 10: So I'm using Christian Alan Elliott Marshall. And then instead

1467
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 10: of Dave Zabrinsky the wrestling coach, now I'm using Carrington

1468
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 10: Banks as my wrestling coach. Carrington he's a very very

1469
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 10: good fighter and a very very good teacher at wrestling,

1470
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 10: and he's been one of my training partners throughout this

1471
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 10: whole team this whole time. So it's been really helpful

1472
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 10: to use him as a training partner, but also I

1473
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 10: have him as a coach too, because that guy had

1474
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 10: his wrestling knowledge is out of this world.

1475
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 4: So you're only twenty eight years old, just turned but

1476
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 4: I know there's a wisdom and a depth to you

1477
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 4: of a guy that might be impatient at times in

1478
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 4: terms of trying to chase this belt. And you've had

1479
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 4: to sort of bite your tongue while Jose Aldo or

1480
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 4: Frankie Edgar has injected their name into this division or

1481
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 4: Dominic comes back for the first time in three or

1482
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 4: four years, and you haven't spoken out of line or

1483
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 4: said anything that maybe would put you in a bad spot.

1484
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 4: But I'd imagine at least now right, the belt just

1485
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 4: got contested Henry Sohudo stepped aside. You're fighting the number

1486
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 4: two guy. This is the clarity that you've been looking

1487
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 4: for for a year, if not more correct.

1488
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean everything lined up, man, like if I

1489
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 10: would have tried to rush it before. So say I

1490
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 10: try to rush this thing back when the Frankie fight

1491
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 10: pulls out, and I take just a different fight just

1492
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 10: for the sake of staying in the conversation and taking

1493
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 10: a fight. I break my hand and I can't fight

1494
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 10: this time. You know, it's everything in my life as

1495
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 10: long as I know that I'm doing things as honestly

1496
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 10: and as proficiently as I can in the morning, and

1497
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 10: for me as a martial artist, that's just getting better

1498
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 10: and learning more taking care of my body. I put

1499
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 10: all of my eggs in that basket where it's like,

1500
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 10: if I do all of these things correctly, I don't

1501
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 10: have to go overboard trying to get all of these

1502
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 10: goals and accomplishments that I intend to create for myself

1503
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,919
Speaker 10: in my career. It's as long as I'm doing these things,

1504
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 10: everything will work out. And that's been the case. I mean,

1505
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 10: I'm not going to change anything there also is I

1506
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 10: understand a time where you have to be loud and

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01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 10: you have to put yourself and assert yourself into the conversation,

1508
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 10: which is what I felt like I had to do

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01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 10: maybe a couple months ago when all of this talk

1510
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 10: was happening. Because clothes mouse don't get fed, and I

1511
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 10: also understand that too, But I mean, I put a

1512
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 10: lot of eggs in the basket of just take care

1513
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 10: of the day and then the rest will come.

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01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 4: Got a couple more minutes here with Corey Sandhagen. Quick

1515
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 4: thought on Team Elevation, Right, Corey Sandhagenslade's drew dover, Justin

1516
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 4: Gaetchee alistair overin five and zero in the UFC, thus

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01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 4: four in twenty twenty, certainly the front runner for Team

1518
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 4: of the Year. I know there are different bodies and

1519
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 4: different banners and gyms, but under this Team Elevation banner,

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01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 4: you guys are doing something special.

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01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 8: Man, There's no doubt.

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01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're crushing it. I think everything's just kind of

1523
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 10: coming into formation a little bit. We've been good for

1524
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 10: a really long time. If there is two things that

1525
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 10: I think I would attribute it to, I would attribute

1526
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 10: one of it is just time, you know, like a

1527
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 10: lot of us were kind of figuring stuff out right,

1528
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 10: Like I had only been in the UFC for about

1529
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 10: three years now, Curtis hasn't been in the UFC for

1530
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 10: a crazy amount of time. Geechee either, Gechie was with

1531
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 10: World Series for a while, and Getchee has really kind

1532
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 10: of come into his own as far as like finding

1533
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 10: that balance between trading hits and scoring himself. So I

1534
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 10: would attribute a lot of it to time, and then

1535
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 10: I think number two, I would attribute it to that

1536
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 10: we are all on the same page that if we

1537
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 10: all don't get better and we don't make each other better,

1538
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 10: then no one's getting better and no one's being successful.

1539
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 10: So the camaraderie is definitely there. We're all buds, we

1540
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 10: don't flash heads. There's no overly competitiveness in training. It's

1541
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 10: more of like it's a very helpful atmosphere and we're

1542
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 10: all on the same board that the more knowledge you have,

1543
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 10: everyone's tough. You gotta be smart, you know.

1544
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 4: And I've just seen all these guys grind at least

1545
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,959
Speaker 4: in my time with UFC for a decade, Christian Allen

1546
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 4: and Elliott Marshall and Cody and everybody else. So I

1547
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 4: wish you guys all the best. All right, a few

1548
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 4: rapid fires here with Corey Sandhagan on the way out.

1549
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 4: So you've only lost one fight in your career, You've

1550
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 4: never been finished. Who's the toughest guy though, that you've

1551
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 4: ever faced?

1552
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 10: John John Leneker was the toughest fight.

1553
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1554
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 10: That was the worst headache I've ever had in my

1555
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 10: entire life. Afterwards, Man, he wasn't hitting me clean on

1556
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 10: the front of my face, but he was hitting me

1557
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 10: clean on the outside of my ears and like that hurt.

1558
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 10: And yeah, I was in Florida. I planned on spending

1559
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 10: a couple of days after in Florida and I did,

1560
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 10: but I couldn't do anything.

1561
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 3: Man.

1562
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 10: I was excited to go to the beach and hang out,

1563
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 10: but like even being in the sun kind of sucked. So, yeah,

1564
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 10: John's John's been the toughest FIP for sure.

1565
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 4: Certainly a worthy answer to that question. We'll see if

1566
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 4: al Jamaine Sterling can change that answer. All right, buy

1567
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 4: or sell that Henry Shuto returns to MMA competition in

1568
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one or sooner.

1569
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: Uh.

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01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 10: I think it's gonna depend how successful that dude gets

1571
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 10: outside of this. I think if I think if he

1572
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 10: can find some gig where he's doing well, I think.

1573
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 10: I think Henry likes attention. I think if he can,

1574
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 10: if he can find some type of being in the spotlight,

1575
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 10: type of thing that's making him good money, I think

1576
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 10: that he'll stick with that, and if that's not working

1577
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 10: out for him, then he'll definitely be back.

1578
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 8: Do you still train in the gee regularly?

1579
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 3: No?

1580
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 10: Never, it's a it's a. It's a different sport or

1581
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 10: it feels like a much different sport than mma jiu jitsu. So,

1582
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 10: to be honest with you, I don't even really do

1583
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 10: a lot of jiu jitsu without gloves and punches. So

1584
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 10: when I do roll, I'm I'm usually always wearing gloves

1585
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 10: and I'm usually always either punching or having the other

1586
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 10: person punch me. That way, I don't get too lacks

1587
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 10: of days ago with all of that, all right, Kenny?

1588
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 10: Is that good advice?

1589
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1590
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 5: That was the same way man? Okay?

1591
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1592
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1593
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 7: Could you get used to grabbing the g and it's

1594
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 7: a different game. Maybe people are trying to hit you,

1595
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 7: you know you want to ge get used to that, so.

1596
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 10: It's different too with the If they can stand up,

1597
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 10: it changes jiu jitsu completely. If their goal is to

1598
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,919
Speaker 10: stand up, it changes everything completely.

1599
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 4: So in terms of going from brown to black belt,

1600
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 4: is that goal put on holder? Are there are other

1601
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 4: ways to get that black belt? Or do you already

1602
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 4: have a black belt? Your UFC bio is not up

1603
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 4: to date.

1604
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 10: I'm going for gold belts, man, I don't care right

1605
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 10: black belts, dude, I'm trying to get some gold belts.

1606
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 10: The black belt. The black belt isn't going anywhere. The

1607
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 10: gold ones are going somewhere.

1608
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 4: That's a fucking brilliant answer, all right, factor fiction. Keith Peterson,

1609
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 4: the no nonsense Keith Peterson was in the right to

1610
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 4: stop the Pudo Cruz fight when he did.

1611
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 10: Good question, not the worst, not the best that I've seen.

1612
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 10: If it was me, yeah, let it, let it keep going, right,

1613
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 10: But I see the argument. I have no idea, you know,

1614
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 10: I have no idea.

1615
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right.

1616
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,959
Speaker 4: Last thing, if you could have any food or beverage

1617
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 4: in the world waiting in your Vegas hotel room after

1618
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,839
Speaker 4: you knock al Jamin Sterling out cold on June sixth.

1619
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 10: I'm gonna tell him you said that, John, any food

1620
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 10: or bevers. We're definitely gonna have some beers afterwards, and

1621
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 10: we'll probably have some I don't know, It depends how

1622
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 10: scummy we want to get.

1623
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 3: Man.

1624
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 10: We might order some McDonald's. I don't know, Man, we

1625
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 10: might be digging into that load trench.

1626
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 3: You know.

1627
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 8: Well, hey man, you certainly will have earned it.

1628
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 4: I think anybody who's been sort of watching you from

1629
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 4: a far we've admired the way you've handled yourself, and

1630
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 4: we've been waiting for you to get this big fight,

1631
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 4: and now it's upon us and we wish all the

1632
01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 4: best with it. On Instagram you can find Corey at

1633
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 4: Entered the Sandman one thirty five Corey sand Haagen. You

1634
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 4: can watch him on pay per view June sixth against

1635
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 4: al Jamaine Sterling. Appreciate a few minutes, my man. Look

1636
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 4: forward to giving you a little elbow bump when I

1637
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 4: see in Vegas. Thanks so much, Corey.

1638
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 10: Yeah cool, I'll see you in a couple of weeks.

1639
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 10: And Kenny, it was nice meeting you. I've been a

1640
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 10: big fan for a long time.

1641
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 5: Man. Thanks so much, dude, Good luck, yep, thank you guys.

1642
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 4: All right there he is UFC Bandamway contender Corey sand Haagen.

1643
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 4: A lot of Ken Flow fans out there. Gotta make

1644
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 4: you feel a little bit better turning forty fucking four

1645
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 4: tomorrow when I tell my twin brother the Ken Flows

1646
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,640
Speaker 4: forty four, you know, but it's got to make you

1647
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 4: feel good.

1648
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 8: All these young guys fucking shout me out.

1649
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 3: You know.

1650
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 7: That's cool that they were watching me when they were

1651
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 7: about three or five. That's great, So old dude. There's

1652
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 7: certain peeping, but it's great. Like people are like, yeah,

1653
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 7: I don't think I was watching when you were fighting,

1654
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 7: or yeah, I think I remember I was in you know,

1655
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 7: elementary school.

1656
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 4: You're like, okay, Well, like, I mean I was bar

1657
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 4: Mitzvah before Corey Sandhagen was born. He was born in

1658
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety two. I mean they look at us as

1659
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 4: just like fucking fossils, grumpy old men, fucking fossil. Speaking

1660
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 4: of which, we gotta get out of here. Thanks to

1661
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 4: our guests this week, Corey Sandhagen, Calvin Cater, the usual Suspects,

1662
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 4: long Ago.

1663
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 8: Ian Parker, our producers TJ. DeSantis and Ody Merrow.

1664
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Speaker 4: Next week, back in the usual slot, will recap UFC

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1673
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Speaker 8: Have a great week.

1674
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 4: Enjoy the fights on Saturday. Don't text and drive. We'll

1675
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Speaker 4: talk to you next Monday.

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Speaker 8: Good later,