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Speaker 1: our dear friend Mark Looper, Hey, lupy, are you there?

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Speaker 2: You'd be loose here here.

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Speaker 1: I'm running on fumes today, so I'm lucky. This is

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Speaker 1: not a complaint. Last night I was up to like

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Speaker 1: one o'clock doing CNN, so CNN has booked me a

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Speaker 1: lot now to talk about Rob, Briana and all different

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Speaker 1: types of celebrities. So I love, love doing it. But oh, Mark,

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Speaker 1: you've worked in TV a long time. The hours. It's

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Speaker 1: rough business, isn't it. You're up late, you're you're a

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Speaker 2: But luckily you had good hair and makeup to make

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Speaker 1: I'm going to post this picture I just because I

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Speaker 1: send you clips now after the show, and I think

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Speaker 1: that's very smart. They want all their guests to really

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Speaker 1: social media. So yes, it helps me because all my

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Speaker 1: friends are like, oh my gosh, i'ms so legit he's

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Speaker 1: on CNN. But it also helps the show too because

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Speaker 1: suddenly people are like, the show is really fabulous. I'll

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Speaker 1: post the clip to day Mark. I look fabu. There's

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Speaker 1: no more magical room in the whole of New York

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Speaker 1: than CNN's makeup room. It is. It could turn an

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Speaker 1: Not gonna drop names here because I'll never get invited back,

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Speaker 1: but I've seen a few people walk into that room

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Speaker 1: and they've walked out a completely different person. Their hair

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Speaker 1: and makeup room it's always where you have to bow dad.

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Speaker 1: That's where the respect, That's where the real wizardry of

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Speaker 1: television goes on. Okay, let's jump into that show. What

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Speaker 1: time is it? My friends? It is tea time, big,

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Speaker 1: big story. At the top of the show, so Rob

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Speaker 1: Ryan as kids, at least two of them have broke

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Speaker 1: their silence about the horror, calling it an unimaginable pain. However,

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Speaker 1: they did not mention their brother in the statement. So

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Speaker 1: Hollywood was still reeling from Rob and Michelle Reiner's Ryaner's passing,

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Speaker 1: and now their kids, Jake and romy romy found the

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Speaker 1: bodies are finally speaking out in a heartbreaking statement, Mark

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Speaker 1: that they're describing it as living with quote unimaginable pain,

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Speaker 1: calling the loss horrific, and deavor stating this is the

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Speaker 1: like this with my mom. They said they were not

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Speaker 1: just our parents, they were our best friends. So they've

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Speaker 1: lost their parents, their best friends, potentially their brother too.

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Speaker 1: They have thanked their fans and friends and even strangers

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Speaker 1: around the world for the outpouring of love and condolences. However,

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Speaker 1: very difficult because this case is moving a head, so

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Speaker 1: we're trying to be respectful of that. But I think

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Speaker 1: there's still a lot of story to come out here,

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions. Mark, the question of the day

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Speaker 1: is who's paying for the defense? This attorney that he's

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Speaker 1: think amark about the statement? I think it was quite beautiful.

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Speaker 2: It's just a horrible and shocking story, it really is.

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Speaker 2: I think here too, what's so sad, and I've been

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's heartbreaking, isn't it. You know, Hollywood knew

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Speaker 1: Nick was trouble. People in Hollywood knew. He's been around

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Speaker 1: I'm not interested in poles when something this devastating has happened.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to keep moving on our final Nick

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Speaker 1: more uplifting. We have finally seen him. He appeared in

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Speaker 2: Yes, so he appeared in quarrier for the first time

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Speaker 1: January seventh, January seventh. I've never seen this before. I've

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Speaker 1: This is going to be massive. I'm already told Mark

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Speaker 1: News organizations are thinking about moving reporters out to LA

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Speaker 1: Yesterday Anderson Coop working on a new primetime documentary and

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Speaker 1: I film that yesterday too. It's amazing these TV people Mark.

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Speaker 1: let's move along away from away from Rob ryaner Oh

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Speaker 1: it breaks my heart. But we do have some quite

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Speaker 1: shocking gossip here that the oscars now are moving from

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Speaker 1: TV to YouTube. You heard that right in twenty twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: The Academy of Motion Pictures and Science, so it sounds

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Speaker 1: they're going to begin the two hundred and first Oscars. Wow,

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Speaker 1: The world's changing, and the oscars moving is a big moment,

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Speaker 1: into this process now of Netflix, of YouTube, we are

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the naughty but nicey heads from Shoot

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Speaker 1: with a Dear Friend, Mark Lippo. No polls today. We

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