1 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on eight 3 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland, presented by bally Bett Sportsbook, an official 4 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 5 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bau Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: Hi the sh I'm on a Thursday dish of the program. 7 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: I am merely bo he is the Great z Snow 8 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: mcgeddon is on the way, buddy, it's coming, the snow, 9 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 2: the ice. 10 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: I had to adjust my volume over here now that 11 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 3: I'm sitting in the great chair of the Great Bishop. Yeah, 12 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: I had to rain that in Snowmageddon is bad enough. 13 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 3: You don't want to you don't want to have to 14 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: hear it. To hear it at that volume. 15 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: We'll see on the other side, right, I. 16 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: Think that's where Yeah, I'm putting on. 17 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 3: I'm going with the baby blue Sunlight. That's what we're 18 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: trying to feel right now, little sunlight, little joy, you, 19 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: little joy. Oh, thank you very much. You look are fantastic. 20 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: I mean it's coming, especially with a profile behind you 21 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: of just nothing but greatness. 22 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 2: Really is what you got there. I'm strong. William Takumsa. Yeah, yeah, 23 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: that's you know, Ohioan doing his work. It's a good 24 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: word of good to comes to story. 25 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 5: Do you I bet you too? 26 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: For air or not? No? Not no, not for not 27 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: even close. We are Uh. This has been a This 28 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: is a weird time right now in the league in 29 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: that so many of these coaching candidates are involved this weekend, 30 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: and so you're kind of in a situation where even 31 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: if you really like somebody and you went through this yesterday, 32 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: there are processes that have to take place before you 33 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 2: can make that higher and so you're kind of unless 34 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: you did like what the Giants did, and obviously that's 35 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 2: an easy one, like you identify Harbob, but you still 36 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: have to get those runey rule candidates in and interviewed 37 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: in person and then you can kind of go. But 38 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: it's kind of stuck a little bit for the league 39 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: is at this point with this we did get there. 40 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: There's all sorts of rumors going on out there of 41 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: things that could happen, but for the most part, it 42 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 2: seems like for the what six teams that are still 43 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: without coaches, it's a little bit of a pause. 44 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: It's definitely and that's you know, that's the weird part 45 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 3: of this. There are so many things they have to 46 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: be satisfied, whether it be the Rooney rule, whether it 47 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: be in the case of Nate Shieldhouse, whether you have 48 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: to wait until you can't even interview him in person 49 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: until next Monday. And should the Rams advance to the 50 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: super Bowl, you know, then you couldn't obviously hire him 51 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: until after the Super Bowl. So yeah, it is interesting 52 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: I think how this is shaping up. You know, the 53 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: vacancies that were filled quickly were filled quickly with guys 54 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: that you know, in terms of the first two right 55 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: out of the gate, you had Harbaugh fired coach, Stefanski 56 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: fired coach. Now we've got Jeff Hafley in the mix, 57 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: who is a coordinator. OHOS team was eliminated in week one, 58 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: and so they were able to get that done at 59 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: this point. But you know, for the Browns, Udinsky obviously 60 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 3: could be hired at any second, Schwartz could be hired 61 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: any second once the Rooney rule was satisfied, and so 62 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: for the Browns, that means you have to interview if 63 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: you do not hire a minority candidate, you would have 64 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: to interview two of them. For your head coaching job. 65 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: The Browns at this point of interview zero, they would 66 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: be able to hire Shieldhouse without interviewing another minority candidate 67 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: if they were to make him their head coach. 68 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: But again that is that's. 69 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: Far off, and based on the outcome of Sunday, you 70 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 3: don't even know if he's even eligible to be hired 71 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 3: next Monday. 72 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: No, this is the only you know, I have a 73 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: lot of criticism for the college calendar because it's just 74 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: a complete disaster. And we've talked about it before. This 75 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: is kind of the only part of the NFL calendar 76 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: that doesn't make sense is right now? Yep, just and 77 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: I don't know what the solution to it is. If 78 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: it's to freeze, do you freeze all hiring until after 79 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl? Do you? I mean, then everything would 80 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: be backchanneled. I don't necessarily have an answer for it 81 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: at the ready. But this is the one part of 82 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: the NFL calendar that's pretty cumbersome. 83 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,119 Speaker 3: It is if you're not involved in these things, which 84 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: means you're either played or you've been a successful franchise, 85 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: it's nothing. 86 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: You're you're not worried about this your prime at all. 87 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: Not You're not my problem. 88 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: But when it is, then it becomes a very interesting 89 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: time and scenario. And quite frankly, doing the program that 90 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: we're doing is very very difficult because we don't know 91 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: when there will be a new head coach. We don't 92 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 3: know who will be obviously the new head coach. 93 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 2: We don't know. 94 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 3: You know, obviously we know all along they want to 95 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: keep Jim Schwartz and his staff here, so you feel 96 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 3: pretty good about that. We've seen Tommy Resco and that's 97 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: why we weren't We couldn't even talk about prior to today. 98 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: You know, some of these guys, maybe they are being 99 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: interview maybe Jim Schwartz ultimately does get the job. Maybe 100 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: they're being interviewed for that offensive coordinator position, right, you know, 101 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: we don't know. Maybe some of the people that were 102 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: interviewed in round one, you know, down Pitcher from Cincinnati, 103 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: maybe he was actually being interviewed to be an offensive 104 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: coordinator underneath one of these young guy head coaches. You know, 105 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: but we weren't able to talk about that because Tommy 106 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: rees here. Now we still have other chatt O'shays gone, 107 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 3: so we know there's an opening there. We have other 108 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: coaches that are still here and under contract on the 109 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 3: offensive side, and you'd have to imagine that, you know, 110 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 3: perhaps some would stay, but at the same time that 111 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: a new head coach or a new offense coordinator is 112 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: going to want to bring in whoever they want to 113 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: bring in. And The Hoff did a video on Instagram 114 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 3: talking about kind of the three things you know that 115 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 3: make him a little bit nervous to hire a younger 116 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: head coach and certainly acknowledging that it can work and 117 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 3: has worked very well in a variety of places. But 118 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: you know, one of those is the staff and can 119 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: that young coach who has a you know, smaller network 120 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 3: of guys that would be willing to move their families 121 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: and to say, you know, I'm hitching my wagon to 122 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 3: you and the you know, because the reality is if 123 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 3: it doesn't go well, you could be talking in a 124 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 3: year two years to your family saying, oh, well, we 125 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: hitched our wagon here and now we're going somewhere else. 126 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: And so I thought that was a very good point. 127 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 3: I also loved on the video. Have you seen that one? 128 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm talking about? 129 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? 130 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: I like how he opens calling himself the Hoff, which 131 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 2: is amazing so much yeah, probably great joy. That's great joy. 132 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: And then I also love that he's doing his cold 133 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 2: plunges just in the air now, like it doesn't even 134 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: have to get on the water. If he doesn't want 135 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: to just do it, it's smart. They're right there. Yeah's 136 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: no reason. Yeah, then you have to immerse. Yeah, it's 137 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: just it just is cold. It is cold things. You're right, 138 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: and and Hoff brings up something that you just illustrated there, 139 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: which is also like in the case of Yudinsky and 140 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 2: shield House, they're being interviewed by a lot like I 141 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: Thinksky is being interviewed for Buffalo this weekend. I mean, 142 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: there's there's a lot of this stuff that's happening right now, 143 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: and guys are taking interviews. But in both of those instances, 144 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: if they were to become offensive coordinators, they would be 145 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: play calling offensive coordinators, which is for both of those 146 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: instances they are currently not. They are the first time. 147 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: Same with Pitcher. 148 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: Pitcher would be the same been a play calling offensive coordinator. 149 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 3: So what's interesting about it is, let's say it is 150 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: one of these young guys, which I think people there's 151 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 3: a sense that that's kind of I think maybe one 152 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: of the ideal outcomes is that you get this young 153 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: offensive genius and then you keep Schwartz there so he 154 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: doesn't have to worry about the defensive staff at all. 155 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: And this is an elite defensive staff. And then you 156 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: you know, right now, I know Duce Staley's still here, 157 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: the tight end coach still here, the offensive line coach 158 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: is still here, especially seams coordinator is still here. Then 159 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: they can figure that out. Now they may have people 160 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: they want to bring in and we'll see how that 161 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: ultimately plays itself out. But that's why this is kind 162 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: of hard to do this right now because you know, 163 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: for back to back days, you know, you thought you're 164 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: gonna do all We're gonna do a Mike McDaniel profile. Well, no, 165 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: he's now the offensive coordinator of the LA Chargers. Okay, 166 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: today we're gonna do a and we talked about him yesterday. 167 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 3: We did do the profile on Mentor, So glad we 168 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: got that out of the way yesterday. Jesse Minner, who 169 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 3: is not going to be interviewing as scheduled, and I 170 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 3: think people are reading that, people are saying, oh, this 171 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: is a blemish on the Browns. I really don't think so. 172 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: I think when you look at what I just said. 173 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: If you go back and know everything that we talk 174 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: about here is that the Browns want to keep Jim 175 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: Schwartz here. And I think Jim Schwartz is going to 176 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: be here either as the head coach or as the 177 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator. And that's why I always thought maybe hiring 178 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 3: a defensive coach seemed odd that, yeah, because that would 179 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: him change that. And so for a guy that's a 180 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: first time had coach, you know, the defense is certainly 181 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: not the problem here. He probably realized this probably isn't 182 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: a job I'm going to get. It's probably not a 183 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: job that he's going to get. 184 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: No, And it's also very possible that it was back 185 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: channel to him someplace he's already interviewed for that, Hey 186 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: you're going to be our guy. 187 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: And I think that place that it feels like that's 188 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 3: gould be the Baltimore Ravens who was just with yesterday. Yeah, 189 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: you don't need to go to another interview. Let's we'll 190 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 3: get this all done. So yeah, that's how I look 191 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: at I think it was always the most likely outcome 192 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: here that we were going to have either a young 193 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: offensive coach with Jim Schwartz's defense coordinator, or we're going 194 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: to have Jim Schwartz as the coach with a young 195 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator. But that's and I don't think anything with 196 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: that's changed. That's why it's just it's hard to talk 197 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: about some of the things that are going on here. 198 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: And I felt especially uncomfortable about it when you know 199 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 3: Tommy was still here because he was the offensive coordinator, 200 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: but he was still here as the offensive coordinator, and 201 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 3: so that Domino has at least, you know, dropped. This 202 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: is Yeah, this is a weird time in the league, 203 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: and it's a weird time, I think in particular for 204 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: us and for Browns fans, because we're in this holding 205 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: pattern where you know, absolutely nothing can happen until next Monday. 206 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: You've now had back to back days of interviews that 207 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 3: you thought were going to happen that at least would 208 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: be news and interesting and we could talk about it, 209 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: that are not happening now. Yudinsky's coming in tomorrow. You know, 210 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: there is that, you know, And then I kind of 211 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: laid out those two circumstances and then the one guy 212 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: to me that I think could be the one that 213 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 3: would potentially blow up all of the preconceived what I 214 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: would call Avenue three. You know, it's either young young 215 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: head coach, offensive head coach with Schwartz's DC it Schwartz 216 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: as the head coach with one of those young guys 217 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: as the OC, or and then there's and I really 218 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: think those are probably the most likely. But path three 219 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: is that Sean McDermott comes here and says, this is 220 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 3: what I want, and I would imagine there would a 221 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: lot would come of that. We don't know what anything 222 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: would look like in that case. If Sean McDermott wanted 223 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: the job, because he's the one guy that it feels 224 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 3: like it's available that would have that kind of cache 225 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 3: to do what John Harbaugh did. Now, Harbaugh won a 226 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: Super Bowl, McDermott has not. He's not even gotten to 227 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl. But he completely turned the Buffalo Bills 228 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: around and made them relevant and one of the best 229 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: perennial franchises in the NFL, and and by the way, 230 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 3: took them to the playoffs. Pre Josh Allen with Torod Taylor. 231 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: That's right, there are three coaches and one, as Jay 232 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: Glazer put it as plane his day is simply not 233 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: in this cycle. One has already been reassigned, rehired, and 234 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 2: the other one is McDermott. There were three guys Tomlin, Harbaugh, 235 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 2: McDermott that whatever your perception of how you were going 236 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: to have your your hiring process and what you were 237 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: looking for in a coach, whatever you thought it was 238 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: going to be, those were the three instruments of chaos 239 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: that would throw that all out the window. Those three guys, 240 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: those three guys, if they say yes, I want I'm interested, 241 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 2: I want to interview, I want to be the head 242 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: coach whatever. And this is not specific to us, This, 243 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 2: I think is to almost any job in the league. 244 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: And I think you saw it in New York a 245 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: situation where we want a certain hierarchy. Oh, John Harbaugh's interested, 246 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: What do you want? What do you want? You can 247 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: have whatever you want you want. Final say fine, because 248 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: there are those three guys are proven known culture Tornado, 249 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: NFL st head coaches. They're dudes. There's no you don't 250 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: have to put training wheels on them. They walk in 251 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: the door. They know how to run an operation right. 252 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: And so those guys can change everything that you have 253 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: set up to how you want a process to go 254 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: for any team that was involved with any three of them. 255 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: Now Tomlin's out, doesn't want to do it and it's 256 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: going to chill, and Jay Lazer says he's never coaching again. 257 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: And Jay Lazer is very very rarely wrong on these 258 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 2: type of things. Harmo's already been got a new gig. 259 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: We haven't heard anybody or anything from McDermott nope, which 260 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: I think is a little interesting usually, and I just 261 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 2: dealt with this down. I just dealt with this down 262 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: in Columbus. They fired the hockey coach last week and 263 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: he's not of the ilk of McDermott in terms of 264 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: longevity or anything. So he gets fired on a Tuesday, 265 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: And I said, correctly, he will talk with Aaron ports Line, 266 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 2: who's the longest tendure to beat guy down there for 267 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: the Columbus Blue Jackets. He will talk to him within 268 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 2: three days and there will be an airing of grievances 269 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: or at least an explanation of his side of the 270 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: story will come out. To my knowledge, there has been 271 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: none of that for McDermott, Like he isn't to what. 272 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: I haven't seen one quote from him on anything, so 273 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: and I think that's interesting, do you so? 274 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: My initial thought is that this is somebody that is pissed. Yeah, 275 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: and is and is I think justifiably pissed. 276 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, who is. 277 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 3: I think taking whatever time he feels that he needs 278 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: to decompress or to emotionally distance himself before he speaks next. Yes, 279 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: that's that's how That's how I read it, one hundred percent. 280 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: He doesn't want to say something I'll regret. He doesn't 281 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: want to say something that will hurt him in a 282 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: process down the line, whether this cycle or next year's. 283 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: He's always going to be at the top of the list, 284 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: and he's being patient. But he was fired Monday, it's Thursday, 285 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: and he still doesn't talk to anybody, like, not a 286 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: beat writer from Buffalo, not a national guy, not somebody 287 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: at the athletic nothing, not a peep. So there are 288 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: two people that have not talked in that situation that 289 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: are kind of stupefying to me. And if I'm incorrect 290 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 3: about the second one, we obviously know mcdermot's first, But 291 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: if I'm a correct care about second one, please correct me. 292 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: But the fact that we have not heard anything from 293 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: Josh Allen I find to be stunning. 294 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, which one's more surprising Alan or McDermott McDermott, 295 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: because I agree. 296 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: I if I was, if I Nathan Zigura was a McDermott, Yeah, 297 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: I would have had a real hard time after that 298 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: press conference not rebutting or fact checking things that were 299 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 3: said in that press conference almost in real time. Yes, 300 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 3: like we get sometimes with some of our political addresses. Yes, 301 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: I agree, Like I would have had a very hard 302 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 3: time not doing that. Josh Allen, I think it's like 303 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: he's in a he's in a lose lose situation because 304 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: at this point, like the Hayze out of the bar, 305 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: and so you can't like cry over the spilled milk. 306 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: You've got them going. 307 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 3: How many analogies I can get in there. 308 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 2: You've got it. 309 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: But you've got to be a good soldier at that point, right, 310 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: You've got to be just kind of like you're you're 311 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 3: a bills all. You're trying to make the organization look 312 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: as good as it can. And by the way, you 313 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: do that because you are the MVP and you know, 314 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: a great, great player. But it's I think that's probably why, 315 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 3: but I do I'm so I'd be very curious to 316 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: hear you know, you had some guys or at least 317 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: one player from the Bills. I saw his the post 318 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: where he's like this is insane. 319 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: This guy's the best coach I've ever had, Like this 320 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: is stupid. 321 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 3: I think he said exactly that, this is stupid. 322 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not that like the Kevin one. You know, 323 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: we released Kevin's statement, then Kevin you know, did a 324 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: separate one, and so like his thoughts were known on it, 325 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: and then he immediately went out and got into the 326 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: process immediately. He was interviewing within two days for jobs. 327 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 3: But he praised on his way out the door, like 328 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: it was a very different It was kind of a 329 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: it was it was like we've grown apart breakup where 330 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: both sides are like, you know what, yeah, okay, but 331 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 3: like we had we had some great times. 332 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: We hadn't heard about interviewing for a job like that 333 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: is not that that is no, that was not amicable, 334 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 2: not at all, not at all. And I'm sure he 335 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: feels bitter and wronged in all of those things. But 336 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 2: he's the one guy that you got six jobs left open. 337 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: My hunch is all six of them. If he's interested, 338 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: that changes your process a great deal. You have to 339 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: well and I think. 340 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 3: He might also know that with some of the people 341 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: that are targets in these searches still being people that 342 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 3: are playing on Sunday, that he's got the luxury of 343 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 3: that time. 344 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 2: Good point. 345 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: I guarantee his agent their back channel. There's no doubt 346 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: in my mind he has no an idea of who 347 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: truly is interested. 348 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: And my guess would be. 349 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 3: That would be is that it should be all of 350 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: the remaining openings would be yes, ours included would be 351 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 3: at least interest. We know very much that he was 352 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 3: very highly thought of in the twenty sixteen process and 353 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 3: had it not been Hugh Jackson yep who ended up 354 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: being the head coach and by the way, revision his 355 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: history aside. 356 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: At the time, it was widely. 357 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: Stated who Jackson was coming off being the ap assistant 358 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: coach of the year and was widely stated that we 359 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: won that coaching search like no question, full lot like 360 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: that was he was the guy to get, but the 361 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: runner up in that one was McDermott. So he is 362 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 3: somebody that his organization has thought highly of in the past. 363 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: And it's yeah, and that that also proves the point. 364 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 2: And that's the one thing that you you know, you 365 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: see all of this crazy dialogue on social and the 366 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 2: reality is that nobody knows anything. Nobody knows anything. You 367 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: have no idea if John Harbaugh going to the Giants, 368 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 2: is Jimmy Johnson coaching the Miami Dolphins or Bill Parcell's 369 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 2: coaching the Cowboys. There are no there are no There 370 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: were a lot of criticism of the Sean McVay hire. 371 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: There was. There was criticism certainly with the Niners with 372 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: Kyle based on what had happened in the Super Bowl, 373 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: and it's and look, how does that work? There are 374 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: no sure things. You just mentioned the huge didn't go well, right, 375 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: but like at the time, he was the number we 376 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: won that search. Yeah, yes, huh yeah, you just don't know. 377 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: A couple other things to pass along here before we 378 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 2: get to Bob. So she's going to join us here momentarily. 379 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: Miles Garrett a finalist, to the surprise of No. One 380 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: for Defensive Player of the Year. Obviously he's gonna win that. 381 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: Carson Swessinger is a finalist for Defensive Rookie of the Year. 382 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: I can't imagine a scenario where he doesn't win that. 383 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: So those are the AP Awards, Those are the ones 384 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: that are like your official ones. We kind of outlied 385 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: that yesterday versus Pro Football writers. So anyway, that's the uh, 386 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 2: that's kind of some cleaning up of that. One other 387 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: thing to pass along. It is a mailbag Thursday edition. 388 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: Get your questions in. You can tweet them to Gibbe 389 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: at Brown's Underscore Daily. 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He is 406 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: our great friend, Bob Soci. He is the play by 407 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: play voice to the New England Patriots, and he joins 408 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: us now to preview Sunday's AFC Championship game in Denver. 409 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: You know, Bob, after you win a bunch of Super Bowls, 410 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 2: like the organization that you work for, does, it's supposed 411 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: to be a while before you're back on this stage. 412 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 6: Yeah. 413 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 7: We've had the long hard weight of what five years 414 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 7: since Brady left, in between his departure and the emergence 415 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 7: of Drake May and year or two and the Patriots 416 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 7: return to the SC Championship. I tried never to take 417 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 7: it for granted. I don't know that I was able 418 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 7: to accomplish that in my first six years colin Patriots games. 419 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 7: This is my thirteenth season now. But I think the 420 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 7: nice thing about this season it has been a refreshing 421 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 7: change for the Pats. And I think refreshing is the 422 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 7: word because it's been a group that's so much different 423 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 7: than any of the teams that I covered early on 424 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 7: that advanced this far. There were no expectations for this 425 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 7: team to come remotely close to this point. New coach 426 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 7: and quarterback Plea turn over the roster for the most part, 427 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 7: and it's been really a joy ride for the Pats. 428 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 7: Very fortunate at things have broken their way this year, 429 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 7: that's for sure, But here they are. 430 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 3: Bob by the way, you guys have done a great 431 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 3: job on the broadcast. Sathan Scura here and I got 432 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: we played some of the calls. They're amazing, and I 433 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 3: think that you can tell it's just been so much 434 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 3: Peno friends frustration. It's been so long since the Patriots 435 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 3: have been good that Zolac can't help himself get excited 436 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 3: in the big moments. 437 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: And I love that. 438 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 3: I love that raw, unbridled enthusiasm. That would be like us. 439 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 3: I guess if the Browns ever were able to get 440 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: into the postseason. But this has got to be fun. 441 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: Mike Rabel was here with us last year. We all 442 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 3: absolutely loved him, loved when we got to talk with him, 443 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 3: loved having him in the building. 444 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: And he's come in and. 445 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: Done, to be honest with you, exactly what I think 446 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 3: bo and I would tell you we thought he was 447 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 3: going to do, and that is make that team a 448 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 3: winner immediately. What's it been like with with Bravees in charge. 449 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, you know the thing and I say, look, 450 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 7: the Patriots, you know, the first stroke of luck for 451 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 7: them was in the wake of Mike's firing by Tennessee 452 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 7: the reality that nobody else hired him except for the 453 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 7: Cleveland Browns, you know, to consult with Kevin and Andrew 454 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 7: Berry there, Mike rabel was still available for the Patrie. 455 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 6: It's a year after Bill. 456 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 7: Belchick was fired, you know, and they were a year 457 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 7: into Gerrod Mayo's tenure. And of course Robert Kraft made 458 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 7: the decision to fire Girod after the one and only season, 459 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 7: knowing that Mike was out there as the top candidate 460 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 7: on the market. And you know, he has been I 461 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 7: think everything that we expected and more. And I would 462 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 7: say that, you know, the thing with Mike is that 463 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 7: he's not only changed the culture for the team in 464 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 7: the locker room, but he's really impacted the culture throughout 465 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 7: the football building. And I would even say extending beyond 466 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 7: the Patriots organization to the fandom of New England. He's 467 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 7: really allowed people, I think, access to the team. The 468 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 7: players have built a lot of confidence in one another. 469 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 7: There's a great camaraderie and that's really I think a 470 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 7: great part of byproductive Mike and his staff and the 471 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 7: way they have, you know, coached this team. I think 472 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 7: it's clear that there's authenticity. He cares about them as people, 473 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 7: He coaches them hard and demands an awful lot of 474 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 7: them as players. They have a plan of vision that 475 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 7: they all share. Talk about the coaching staff, you could 476 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 7: see that going back to training camp. There were efficient 477 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 7: practices day after day after day. You could tell they 478 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 7: were on the same page. Even when they were one 479 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 7: and two and they had struggled against the Steelers in 480 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 7: the week three of five turnovers. I don't think the 481 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 7: confidence in the players and vice versas the players confidence 482 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 7: of the coaching staff ever wined. 483 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 6: And then again, I think is this. 484 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 7: Team has gone from being a pleasant surprise to being 485 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 7: a team that's on the doorstep of the Super Bowl. 486 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 7: You know, Mike has been very open and transparent with 487 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 7: the media as much as one can be in that role, 488 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 7: and he's allowed the players to enjoy themselves. They celebrated 489 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 7: victories and when they quinched the S East Division title, 490 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 7: they were on the road and they were actually coming 491 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 7: back and players were watching the Bills game on their 492 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 7: phones up in Buffalo against Philadelphia Eagles, and the buses 493 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 7: pulled up the Gillette Stadium and they all got off 494 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 7: the buses to the car port that's in the football facility, 495 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 7: and they handed out hats and T shirts and they celebrated. 496 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 7: Mike wants them to enjoy it, and I think he's 497 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 7: welcomed in the fans as well as much as they 498 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 7: can to be part of it through social media and 499 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 7: access to the team. It's really been a essentially it's 500 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 7: been a very refreshing let as great as the teams 501 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 7: were for the Belichick years, it's a much different environment. 502 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: Here now, Bob, was there a moment in Drake May's 503 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: rookie year, either in camp or at one point in 504 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: the season where you thought he would get to this 505 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: point this quickly. He's either going to win the MVP, 506 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 2: he's going to finish second. They're in the AFC Championship game, Like, 507 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 2: shouldn't be this easy? 508 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 7: No, Now, you know, I can't say there was any 509 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 7: moment when it could possibly envision this kind of success 510 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 7: this soon. There was really a lot of moments where 511 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 7: he flashed and he saw the potential. It's funny because 512 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 7: the throw that he made to Kaishawn Booty against the 513 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 7: Texans on Sunday, now Booty made a sensational catch last 514 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 7: year with a lower degree of difficulty for Booty against 515 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 7: the same defensive back Stanley Drake May threw that pass 516 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 7: right sideline saint corner of the end zon at Chilllette 517 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 7: Stadium and it was a touchdown to Booty in the 518 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 7: lots for the Pats and Drake's first start, and it's 519 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 7: one of those plays, you know, sprinkled amidst a rough 520 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 7: afternoon that we saw week in, week out last year 521 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 7: from him. You could see the potential physically, and you know, 522 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 7: you got a sense of the kind of person he 523 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 7: was from what we were hearing from teammates and the 524 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 7: way Drake handled himself in what were very difficult circumstances 525 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 7: for him taking over for Jacoby Brissette, a guy that 526 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 7: he was very close to, and you know, going through 527 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 7: one loss. 528 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 6: After another, eventually the coaching change. 529 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 7: The remarkable thing today is how he's not only grasp 530 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 7: but really mastered a system under Josh McDaniels that puts 531 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 7: so much more on his plate in terms of running 532 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 7: the offense, everything funneling through the quarterback, setting protections, making 533 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 7: adjustments of a line of scrimmage, in the way he's 534 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 7: led this team and bounced back from some poor plays. 535 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 7: The first two games of the playoffs, he's put the 536 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 7: ball at risk and has turned it over, and the 537 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 7: picture has been fortunate that a couple of his fumbles 538 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 7: were recovered by Patriots. Otherwise that could have been a 539 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 7: completely different outcome, especially in the Chargers game. And yet 540 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 7: he still has that ability after those mistakes, after those 541 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 7: poor plays, to bounce back and make a brilliant throw 542 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 7: the way he did to Booty that aforementioned touchdown to 543 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 7: really helped assault it away against the texts. But he's 544 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 7: really been a young man who has steadily improved in 545 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 7: a lot of different ways, not only with the spectacular 546 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 7: but he showed last year, but just with the general 547 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 7: leadership that you need from a quarterback, the intangible traits 548 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 7: that I think he expected a quarterback in the locker room, 549 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 7: in the huddle, you know, act the line of scrimmage, 550 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 7: all those things is you know, all different marks of 551 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 7: his progress in the last year. 552 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 3: As you mentioned the throw against Stingley to Boute is 553 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,959 Speaker 3: he one of the better stories this season. He caught 554 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: a long touchdown against US and we saw from the 555 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 3: micd up that they absolutely knew pre snapped that that 556 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 3: was going to be a touchdown to him. But you 557 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 3: just think about it, everything he's gone through from his 558 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: time in college to now to be making big plays 559 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 3: in big moments. That really was kind of the back 560 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 3: out punch there. But what a phenomenal season he's had. 561 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 3: Is that vertical threat. 562 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, An if you go back to the beginning of 563 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 7: training camp, he was probably on the outside looking in, 564 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 7: or at least at best, he was the last receiver 565 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 7: in the group fighting for a roster spot. Boody is 566 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 7: a guy that at LSU had a great start to 567 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 7: his career and then he suffered at an ankle injury 568 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 7: that really set him back. At one point, was considered 569 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 7: one of the top professional prospects early in his time 570 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 7: in Baton Rouge, and he became available to the Patriots 571 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 7: as a late round draft pick. 572 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 6: Really a non factor. 573 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 7: I think his first game as a pat as a rookie, 574 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 7: they were trying to rally late in the game against Philadelphia, 575 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 7: and he caught a pass along the sideline and he 576 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 7: didn't get two feet in bounds. It was a late 577 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 7: down player was a third or fourth down play that 578 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 7: would have prolonged the drive him given them. 579 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 6: A chance to win that game. But he only got 580 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 6: one foot. 581 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 7: In bounds and it was not really a play that 582 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 7: involved with a high degree of difficulty, and it was 583 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 7: a kind of a lackadaisical mistake young receiver that you know, 584 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 7: set him back, and there was I would say, I'll 585 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 7: be careful about using the word immaturity, but I would 586 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 7: say that he wasn't quite the professional that he needed 587 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 7: to be, and even physically, and he's in this past spring. 588 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 7: The coaching staff challenged him in the wake of the 589 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 7: OTAs in mini camp, and he came back in the 590 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 7: summer and he was an incredible shape. He of course, 591 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 7: has gone through a number of things off the field 592 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 7: as well, including a gambling addiction, which he just wrote 593 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 7: about recently in the Players Tribune, and he's really grown 594 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 7: up as a person and as a player. Last Yek, again, 595 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 7: like May, we saw some big plays from him, but 596 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 7: this year it's just been more more consistent, and it's 597 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 7: not only the contested balls downfield, but especially in these playoffs, 598 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 7: he's made some big catches for them on some intermediate 599 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 7: routes that necessarily haven't necessarily been part of his repertoire 600 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 7: to this point. 601 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 2: Bob, let's look to the AFC Championship game on Sunday 602 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: in Denver. Obviously, the Bonnicks injury is a big part 603 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: of this. Be curious to know how this game in 604 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: terms of who was favored, would look if he were 605 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: in the mix. But he's not, And so with that 606 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 2: I would think comes from the outside. A lot of 607 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: pressure on New England with the assumption that, look, you're 608 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 2: playing a backup quarterback, will handle your business. I imagine 609 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: that some of that goes away when Nick Foles is 610 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: tweeting Denver fans saying, hey, all hope is not lost. 611 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 7: Well, it's been amazing, because you're absolutely right. I would 612 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 7: think the whole perception of this team a couple of 613 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 7: weeks ago is to make a nice run in the playoffs. 614 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 7: That's great, you know, the next step is next year, 615 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 7: and we'll enjoy this while it lasted. But now, particularly 616 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 7: because of the situation the Broncos are in with the 617 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 7: injury the Knicks and with Jared's tennem a quarterback who 618 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 7: sat here in New England for the most part behind 619 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 7: Brady and then Cam Newton for year in twenty twenty 620 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 7: before he was traded out to Vegas. Now the perception is, well, 621 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 7: you know, this is no longer house money they're playing with. 622 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 7: They got to win this game, then they should win 623 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 7: this game. And the odds makers obviously have reflected thinking too, 624 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 7: with the line that's established. 625 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 6: But I think the other part of it, those on the. 626 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 7: Flip side is the Patriots no Jared Stidham. The organization does, 627 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 7: at least Josh McDaniels does, Mike Rabel does. They made 628 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 7: a play for him in the offseason, They tried to 629 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 7: sign him in the off season, and you know, he 630 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 7: decided to stick with Denver. Sean Payton wanted him badly 631 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 7: enough to continue to extend him after a two year 632 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 7: deal that expired for the Broncos. He's a guy that 633 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 7: you know, isn't the runner that Nicks is, but he 634 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 7: Spineman's is the statues. So maybe the Broncos won't have 635 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 7: as many design runs in this game, but I think 636 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 7: they you know, with Sean Payton's reputation as a play 637 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 7: caller in a schemer, I think the Broncos still are 638 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 7: a real solid spot home with that defense. The Patriots 639 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 7: going out there, they're going to travel on Saturday, although 640 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 7: they've been eight and oh on the road. I think 641 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 7: there's gonna be a real struggle. I think this is 642 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 7: another one of those games that, like some many of 643 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 7: these playoff games here before, comes down to who, you know, 644 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 7: who has it last, or at least who doesn't make 645 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 7: that last critical mistake. And you know Skidham is going 646 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 7: to make some plays, and the Patriots I think have 647 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 7: a lot of respect for him. Can they keep the 648 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 7: Denver defense, you know, off of Drake May they've had 649 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 7: some problems protecting him in this in this postseason, But 650 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 7: also can they force it him into the one or 651 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 7: two mistakes that you know you might expect him in 652 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 7: this spot first game throwing a pass in twenty twenty three. 653 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 7: So we'll see how it turns out. I think it's 654 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 7: gonna be a much much closer game than a lot 655 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 7: of people around here expect. 656 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 3: What has been the kind of the secret to this defense, 657 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 3: which has five takeaways in the two games in the playoffs, 658 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 3: they did not have a stretch where they had five 659 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 3: takeaways in two games, other than if you count that 660 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh game, which somehow they lost with five takeaways in 661 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 3: that game. I'm sorry that was the turnovers on the offense, 662 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 3: I'm saying, but they have six takeaways here defensively, which 663 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: is the best stretching two games with them. What have 664 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: they been able to do that's allowed them to do 665 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 3: that and kind of step up as a and it's 666 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 3: kind of gone really from the end of the season 667 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 3: two to one, two one five the last five games 668 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 3: after really kind of a big lull in the middle 669 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 3: of the season in terms of that defense taking the 670 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 3: football away. 671 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, they went through a stretch where they didn't have 672 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 7: Milton Williams relatively late in the year and through the 673 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 7: end of the regular season for the most right, I 674 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 7: think came back to the for Week eighteen. They didn't 675 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 7: have Roberts Blaine for a stretch, so they were without really, 676 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 7: you know, their their top defensive player up front, and 677 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 7: then they're leading tackler at that second level, the linebacker, 678 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 7: the captain of their defense, and the run defense suffered. Certainly, 679 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 7: they had been a team that hadn't a lot back 680 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 7: to run for fifty yards through the first nine games 681 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 7: of the season, and then from Week ten in Tampa 682 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 7: Bay on, they really struggled against the run to the 683 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 7: conclusion of the regular season. So I think they shore 684 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 7: that up. That's where you begin, and they forced the 685 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 7: Chargers who were without Hampton he played two snaps their 686 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 7: leading ball, so they really didn't have any semblance of 687 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 7: a running game, and the Texans with March tried to 688 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 7: get it going with the Patriots shut them down and 689 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 7: were able to force the Texans to play one dimensionally, 690 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 7: and they've died up a lot of pressure, a lot 691 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 7: more blitzing since Week fourteen of the regular season. It's 692 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 7: been about a forty five percent blitz rate through these 693 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 7: first two playoff games. And in concert with that, as 694 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 7: opposed to what we saw for most of the season, 695 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 7: which was a departure from past Patriots defenses. When Belichick 696 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 7: was here, you would see the Patriots almost exclusively play 697 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 7: man to man or at least a heavy dose of man. 698 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 7: Demand from game to game. This year was a lot 699 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 7: more mixed coverages. But I think what they've done with 700 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 7: the pressure, they've really relied more on Christian Gonzalez and 701 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 7: Carlton Davis, and then between them, Marcus Jones has really 702 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 7: developed into a terrific defensive player. He often gets overlooked, 703 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 7: I think as a defender because of how good he 704 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 7: is as a punk returner as the second team All Pro, 705 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 7: but he had to pick six against the Texans, and 706 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 7: he's just been on the spot making a lot of 707 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 7: plays for them throughout the latter part of this season, especially. 708 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 2: Bob, we are excellent. Boss, the Great Jason Gibbs does 709 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 2: a segment we do it every Monday or I can't remember, 710 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 2: it's Monday or Tuesday in the playoffs where we listen 711 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 2: to the home radio calls from the games. So the 712 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 2: local radio calls of the games. Your guys is are 713 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 2: our favorites. They are so good. It's so fun to 714 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 2: listen to enjoy the ride continued. Good fortune to you 715 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: guys as hopefully you get back to that Super Bowl. 716 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 6: Well, I appreciate it, guys. 717 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 7: All the best to you, and you know, look, I've 718 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 7: got family or Brown's diehards. 719 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 6: I had such great respect. 720 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 7: For Jim when he was quant of Games, and yeah, 721 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 7: you know, I know Andrew and Nathan. You guys do 722 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 7: a fantastic job as well. It's always a pleasure to 723 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 7: talk to you guys, and I hope you have a 724 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 7: great offseason. And the Browns are where they belong with 725 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 7: the fans deserve in northeast Ohio. And I say that 726 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 7: as a Dayton guy watch school with a lot of Clevelanders. 727 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 7: So I appreciate being with you guys very much. 728 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 2: Appreciate that. Thanks Bob, take care there he goes one 729 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 2: of the best, one of the best in the business. 730 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 2: He will be on the call out in Denver for 731 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game on Isn't that crazy? Like there 732 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 2: had to be moments when they were in like the 733 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 2: Cam Newton mac Jones, like are we now ever going 734 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 2: to get back? And then it's like five years It's ridiculous, 735 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's crazy. How fortunate. Good for them though, 736 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 2: and it's funny. 737 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 3: Here's the other thing though, that I can tell you 738 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 3: with a one hundred percent certainty, because I now some 739 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 3: people might push back on this and be like, well, 740 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 3: then they're not real fans. But there is a big 741 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 3: percentage of Patriots fans that in that lull were Bucks 742 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 3: fans because of Brady yes, and now they're back with 743 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 3: the Patriots because so part of that lull involved them 744 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 3: w also winning another super Bowl for Brady. 745 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: For Brady, I think that's probably why Mike has been 746 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 2: such an elixir there because he kind of was the 747 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: salv that brought all that together, Like he totally he 748 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 2: brought it back. And then so he's a he played 749 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 2: for Belichick, he loves Brady like all of that, like 750 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 2: it kind of healed all of it. Him and Drake 751 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: may be good for sure, and he don't take that 752 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 2: job without Drake, of course not. You need that quarterback, man. 753 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 2: That's how you get those guys. 754 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 3: Turns out it's quite important. It's quite important important. 755 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 2: I mean, how many how many championships as the city 756 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 2: of Boston had in the last twenty five years? Dozens, 757 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 2: like I'm not kidding six Super Bowls, two nbas and. 758 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 3: You can count a Fox Super Bowl for a lot 759 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 3: of them. 760 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 2: Three I tell you three Red Sox World Series. The 761 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 2: Bruins won at least one, maybe two. It's too many. 762 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: Whatever it is. It's too crazy region, Yeah, it really is. 763 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 2: It's way too much. We'll attempt to guess the scores 764 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 2: go around some of the other things happening in the 765 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 2: league coming up next. At a reminder, a mail bag 766 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 2: is open for your perusement. We will do so at 767 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 2: four o'clock. Get your questions into Gibbe at Browns Underscore Daily. 768 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 2: You can also do so on the YouTube chat. Either 769 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 2: one of those work. We will get to those coming 770 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 2: up at four o'clock. 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I had the six 785 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 2: Super Bowls three Red Sox two four Red Sox four 786 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 2: Red Sox so ten two for the Celtics is twelve 787 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 2: and one bruin so I missed the one. I thought 788 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,280 Speaker 2: the Red Sox won three, and they've won four. 789 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 4: Two thousand and four, two seven, twenty thirteen to twenty eighteen. 790 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 2: Good lord. 791 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 4: I feel no sympathy for that city in any way, 792 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 4: shape or form, no regarding anything like Michael Haygoy fans. 793 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 2: That's a lot of winning. That is a lot of winning. 794 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 2: All right, we've got two of them. We will start 795 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 2: in the American Football Conference and we will start at 796 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 2: three o'clock. It is New England at Denver. It is 797 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 2: a nance Romo Wolfson affair. The get in price is 798 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 2: just under four hundred bucks. 799 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 4: Ddver's finally gonna have a real cold weather game. 800 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 2: I think it's like seventeen there on some Is it finally? 801 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, seventeen see Bomby here in a little few days. 802 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 2: The question is, well we even have it, we'll all 803 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,720 Speaker 2: internet be down all over northeast Ohio because of what's 804 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 2: coming Saturday. 805 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 3: I hope not, because that is my source of saving race. 806 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 2: That's my source of Entertainment. Yeah, it's all I got. YEP, 807 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 2: A tremendous question. Do you guys think there's any chance 808 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 2: that this is it for Romo? 809 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 3: It wouldn't surprise me. I hope that he's okay. I 810 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 3: hope that nothing's going on with him. 811 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 2: Seriously, just he just doesn't look nothing seems right right now. 812 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of people starting to talk about 813 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: it now, So I wonder, like Nance, here's all that. Remember, 814 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,760 Speaker 2: like the end with Simms wasn't great. 815 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 3: No, I'll never forget. I was at because when I 816 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 3: was working for CBS, I got to go to their 817 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 3: broadcast conference or whatever, and uh, and Nance put together 818 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 3: this unbelievable video of Sims Like they found these clips 819 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 3: I'm doing these old like workout videos in tube socks 820 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 3: and and put this whole thing and it was good 821 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 3: and then also hysterical body bagging them and it was great. 822 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 3: That's when they were still together. But that was that 823 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 3: was that was a good A good. 824 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 4: Is Romo's contract up? I don't know. 825 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 2: I just like, if you're CBS and it's you're not 826 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 2: getting you know, I don't know what his contract isn't 827 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 2: of anything, but like anything's possible, right, if you want 828 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: to write a big enough check. And I just wonder, 829 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,399 Speaker 2: like it's so much bad pub for him and his 830 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 2: performance just isn't up to the level of the others 831 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 2: that are doing this anymore. 832 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 3: Well, and they don't have Charles to even go back 833 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 3: in the number two spot, right, because isn't Charles taken 834 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 3: over SEC? 835 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 4: Correct? 836 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 2: He's NBC. He's doing college football at NBC. 837 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 3: Or c Yes, no, the CBS. He's like the new 838 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 3: big SEC game guy. Yeah, he's replacing Gary Danielson. Danielson, Yeah, yep, yeah, yeah. 839 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,280 Speaker 4: Romo's deal is set to run through twenty thirty. 840 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 2: No, then no, he is now not going anywhere. 841 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 4: Unless you're reassigning him to a different group. 842 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 3: Could put him on the desk, put jj watt up, 843 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 3: put jj watt up to one. 844 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: He's good. 845 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 3: Oddly they should look at the half. The half would 846 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 3: be great. 847 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 5: Of course. Yeah. 848 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 2: I mean the Hoff's got sixty enterprises though he including 849 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 2: a meat conglomerate. He's the king of meats. He's the 850 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 2: king of meats. How many He's got a lot going on. 851 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 2: He's unbelievable, he really is. Yes, yes, he does. 852 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 5: Pats it. 853 00:42:48,920 --> 00:43:01,240 Speaker 3: Broncos so I think with Nick, this is Bronco's minus three, 854 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 3: and I think it's about a I think it's worth 855 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 3: about a touchdown. I'm gonna go Patriots minus four? 856 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 2: Is that just just four? 857 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 8: Well, yeah, it has to be because we've half no lines, 858 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 8: no wave it on, come on. 859 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 2: He's looking at me. 860 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 4: We're just the biggest blank eating grin. 861 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 2: The zoom together. 862 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 5: Sure that. 863 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 2: It works. I got it. We got there. 864 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, just in the old way. I'm within a half 865 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 3: a point. That's fine, you got it, that's fine. 866 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 5: Yes? 867 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 2: Do you think you do? You do you think I'm 868 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 2: with you? I think this would have been like three 869 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 2: three and a half Buffalo, especially Denver, especially the way 870 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 2: that New England has played in the first two round 871 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 2: ye offense. Yeah, I think it would have been. It's 872 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 2: just sucks for Denver, Like that's terrible, we don't have 873 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 2: any Maybe this guy Stidham, like what more could he 874 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 2: ask for? 875 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 3: You're a backup quarterback and you get the opportunity to 876 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 3: go win the Super Bowl? 877 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 2: Like what more you ask for? 878 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 5: Now? 879 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 3: Nick Foles, when he did it, had already had long, 880 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 3: unbelievable seasons and the year we had twenty seven touchdowns 881 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,479 Speaker 3: and two picks with Chip Kelly like yeah, it wasn't 882 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 3: like he was. 883 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 2: A Jebronio in the corner. He also did. His first 884 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 2: start was in the NFC Championship game, like Wentz went 885 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 2: out like, well no twelve, yeah against the Rams. 886 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 4: Was I remember that. 887 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 3: It was against the Rams and uh ACL and he 888 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 3: was on his way to being ostly Carson Wentz was 889 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 3: gonna be the MVP. 890 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 2: That's he was the MVP favorite. That's an incredible I mean, 891 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 2: that's there's a Derek Rosian fall there with just never 892 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 2: never again, never got back. All Right, I'm pretty sure 893 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 2: it wasn't that just his second season. 894 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 5: In the league. 895 00:44:53,400 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 2: It was, yep, it was. I mean that sixteen. The 896 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 2: consensus was that his that he was MVP fast track 897 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 2: and he was substantially better than Golf two year and 898 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 2: a half in. I mean, that was it. He was 899 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 2: gonna win the MVP. He was the favorite. 900 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,760 Speaker 3: Rush snap judgments in this world. 901 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:20,800 Speaker 2: Oh you don't say six thirty NFC Championship game Rams 902 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,880 Speaker 2: at Seahawks. This is your Kevin Burkhart, Tom Brady, Aaron Andrews, 903 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 2: Tom Ronaldi. The get in price here six fifty six 904 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 2: Rams at Seahawks. Rams. See what the forecast is from 905 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 2: at Seahawks. 906 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 4: At least there's no there's not really any weather in Denver. 907 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:43,720 Speaker 4: It's just gonna be cold. 908 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,839 Speaker 3: So this game was played in week sixteen. Rams at Seahawks. 909 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 4: Oh forty three degrees, yeah, balmy low of thirty two? 910 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 3: Come on, Rams at Seahawks was played in week sixteen. 911 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 3: It was Seattle My's one and a half. 912 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 4: I think the fat kicker or the thicker kicker, whatever 913 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 4: they call him, it's like a Pat mevs. 914 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 915 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, But like Seattle won in overtime. 916 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 3: I can't believe they haven't had somebody be like, huh, 917 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 3: shut up MeVis. I can't believe they haven't turned him 918 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 3: into meet done that. I can't believe it. I'm all 919 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 3: about it. He should come out with like it short 920 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 3: over then. 921 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 2: I am Cornolio. They really should. You do a good 922 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 2: one out there. That was really nailed. Thank you, thank you, 923 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 2: it's very good. I love Beavis. Well you're thinking of 924 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 2: the scores. I want you to. I want you to 925 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,399 Speaker 2: just marinate on this. From Field Yates from a couple 926 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 2: of days ago. The Rams and Seahawks split their season 927 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 2: series one game apiece. The points scored in those games. 928 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 2: Rams fifty eight, Seahawks fifty seven total yards in the 929 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 2: two games. Rams eight thirty, Seahawks eight twenty nine one. 930 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty even, pretty even. So that might easy, That 931 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 3: might lead some to think that it should be a 932 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 3: pick them. I am going to go. I think from 933 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 3: one half in Week sixteen, in the game that the 934 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 3: Rams lost lost who what they lost that one? Yes, 935 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 3: I think it's going the other way. The Rams like 936 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 3: we're blowing them out right, they did, and then the 937 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 3: Seahawks made it crazy comeback and ended up winning on 938 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 3: a I think a pass to tight end late in 939 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 3: the game. Anyhow, I think the line will be bigger 940 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 3: this time for Seattle, but I don't think they're going 941 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 3: to go all the way to three. I got give 942 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,280 Speaker 3: me the Seahawks minus two and a half. 943 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 2: Let's go, let's go. 944 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 3: That's back to like week's fifty exact. Does that's a 945 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 3: that's a wind dog. Oh, that's a wind dog. That's 946 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 3: a win, big one. 947 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 4: It's three straight days of dog. 948 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 3: So let me tell you now, I think only two? 949 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 3: Is it three straight? 950 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 5: Oh? 951 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 2: It's three straight. 952 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 4: We're keeping track. There'll be a new number added. 953 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 3: Ah that's from Mike and the Mike and the Man dog. 954 00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 2: That's a wind dog. It's a wind dog. That's a 955 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 2: wind duck. What did I say? That's a catch dog. Yeah, 956 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 2: that's a catch dog. Both said one. 957 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 4: The next day. 958 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we're hot, we're hot. We're in sink. So 959 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 3: I was watching, as I do with young Master Luca. 960 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 3: In the mornings, we get a little Good Morning Football 961 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 3: and on Thursdays you had trivia segment. One of the 962 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 3: trivia questions was who what Seattle Seahawk player has the 963 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 3: most career touchdowns against the Rams? And there was it's 964 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 3: four part multiple choice. I'll just give you three because 965 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,800 Speaker 3: I only remember three of them. But you had Marshawn Lynch, 966 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:48,240 Speaker 3: you had Shawn Alexander, and you had Doug Baldwin, believe 967 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 3: it or not. 968 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,479 Speaker 2: Was very productive player. My hunches, it would be that one. 969 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 3: It is actually Seawan Alexander, Okay, Doug Baldwell, yes, and 970 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 3: I didn't remember which was something else Baldwin. Yeah, I 971 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 3: was trying to go and I think I think I 972 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 3: went the other day. I don't remember anyway, So they're 973 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 3: showing and and listen, that's when I was full fledged 974 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 3: fantasy guy Seawan Alexander's heyday. He had that Monday night 975 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,479 Speaker 3: game where he won and scored a one hundred million points. 976 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 2: It was great. 977 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,919 Speaker 3: So they're showing They then show a bunch of Seawan 978 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 3: Alexander highlights, and I remembered how like what he looked like. 979 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:24,879 Speaker 2: He was great. 980 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 3: He was Alabama right, m Ye. It was just a 981 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 3: stud yep. But when you watch him now compared to 982 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 3: how running backs run now, there were a couple of 983 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 3: things that stood out to me. Number one, he just 984 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 3: looked bigger, Like, he just looked huge, And part of 985 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 3: that is because the jerseys back then, the sleeves would hang, 986 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 3: shoulder pads were bigger. He had elbow pads on both arms, 987 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 3: like he was very geared up. 988 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 2: Yes. 989 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 3: The other thing about it was he ran somewhat upright 990 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 3: and also looked like he was moving at fifty percent 991 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 3: speed the whole time. Yes, Like he wasn't someone who 992 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:14,840 Speaker 3: appeared fast to the eye. And then I'm watching highlight 993 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 3: after highlight as he is just running away from everybody, 994 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,320 Speaker 3: looking like he's running in slow motion. In fact, some 995 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 3: of the people who are running after him appear to 996 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 3: be running fast, and he's still running away from them. Yeah, 997 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 3: and he runs through arms like it was nothing. But 998 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 3: they showed, i mean the highlights. I'm just like, he 999 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,319 Speaker 3: was so good. But watching it, I'm like, it looks 1000 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,879 Speaker 3: like he's kind of running in sand and yet he's 1001 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 3: somehow running away like some people just look fast. 1002 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 2: Sure, he did not look fast. He just was fast. Yeah, 1003 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 2: he was so good though. 1004 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 3: His stretch of his peak, of his power stretch was 1005 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he had a season and I'm pulling 1006 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 3: up right now. But before I pull it up, I'm 1007 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,320 Speaker 3: gonna say it. I'm prettyure hed a season where he 1008 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 3: scored twenty eight rushing touchdowns. 1009 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 2: I think you're rot. 1010 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 3: It sounds three time Pro Bowler, twenty seven All Pro, 1011 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 3: two thousand and five MVP. So not in the Hall 1012 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 3: of Fame. 1013 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 2: Twenty seven touchdowns, twenty seven, it was twenty eight total. 1014 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,280 Speaker 2: It was twenty eight total. 1015 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 4: It was on that was the following year. He's on 1016 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 4: the cover of Men. 1017 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, dude, do this do his five years here? 1018 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 2: Do you have it up? 1019 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1020 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, can tell me how this one hundred isn't a 1021 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. 1022 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 3: This should be a Hall of Famer. And then I'll 1023 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 3: do the total yards. I'll do the and then you'll 1024 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,840 Speaker 3: get a you'll see a pattern here, but for a 1025 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,640 Speaker 3: five year stretch. And first of all, he's only a 1026 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,319 Speaker 3: three time pro bowler, a one time All Pro? Like, 1027 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,280 Speaker 3: how is he not a pro bowler? In two thousand 1028 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 3: and one he runs for thirteen hundred and eighteen yards, 1029 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 3: fourteen touchdowns, led the league by the way, fourteen touchdowns, 1030 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 3: three hundred and forty three receiving two more touchdowns. So 1031 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,240 Speaker 3: that's sixteen sixty one and back then all sixteen game seasons, 1032 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,440 Speaker 3: sixteen sixty one total and sixteen touchdowns. So he's averaging 1033 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,279 Speaker 3: one hundred total yards and a touchdown a game. 1034 00:51:58,400 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 4: What year was that? 1035 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 3: Twan one? Two thousand and two he goes for eleven 1036 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,760 Speaker 3: seventy five and sixteen on the ground, fifty nine catches, 1037 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 3: four sixty and two is a receiver, So sixteen thirty 1038 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 3: five and eighteen total touchdowns. 1039 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 2: He gets nothing, no recognition, no Pro bowler. 1040 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 3: Next, nothing either of those two seasons. Bump kiss, go ahead, get. 1041 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 4: Two thousand and one All Pro team at running back 1042 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:32,919 Speaker 4: Marshall fault, Yeah, Curtis Martin Priest homes Yeah. Second team 1043 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 4: was a mon Green. 1044 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,919 Speaker 2: This is This is why, though, like the all Pro 1045 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 2: thing at running back and quarterback is really tricky, so hard. Yeah, yeah, 1046 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 2: but he should begins gay. He should have been that 1047 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 2: Pro bowler though. My god. 1048 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 3: He finally makes a Pro Bowl the next year when 1049 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 3: he runs for fourteen thirty five and fourteen and has 1050 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,400 Speaker 3: two ninety five and two receiving, giving him seventeen thirty 1051 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 3: and sixteen again, so three straight years he is better 1052 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,479 Speaker 3: than one hundred total yards game and a touchdown per game. 1053 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 4: Two thousand and two, all Protein priest Holmes. Holmes was 1054 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,760 Speaker 4: elect Ricky Williams, Tiki Barber. 1055 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 2: He got robbed. 1056 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 3: Him and Holmes were on their own level. Those guys 1057 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 3: are not touching his numbers, no way. 1058 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:18,320 Speaker 4: Second team was LT and Fred Beasley of the forty 1059 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:18,879 Speaker 4: nine ers. 1060 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 3: That's outrageous. That's an out. That's a that's that's preposterous, 1061 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 3: is what that is. That is a preposterous scenario that 1062 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 3: you have just laid out for me. 1063 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 2: That's all right. 1064 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 3: Then in two thousand and four, sixteen ninety six and 1065 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:41,959 Speaker 3: sixteen on the ground one seventy and four, he has 1066 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 3: eighteen sixty six and leads the league with twenty total 1067 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 3: touchdowns and then the following year he's the MVP. 1068 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 2: He runs for eighteen eighty which leads the league. 1069 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 3: Twenty seven touchdowns on the ground crew high five point 1070 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 3: one yards of carry adds in this year. They didn't 1071 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 3: bother throwing on the like, just hand it to him. 1072 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 3: Fifteen catches for seventy eight and a touchdown. So he 1073 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 3: finishes with nineteen fifty eight and twenty eight total touchdowns. 1074 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 3: So for a five year period, that guy gave you 1075 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,360 Speaker 3: more than one hundred total yards and a touchdown a 1076 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 3: game for five years, which if you do the math 1077 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 3: really quickly, which I will, eighty straight games, that man 1078 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,879 Speaker 3: averaged one hundred total yards and a touchdown per game. 1079 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 2: In fact, better. 1080 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 3: Than that, better than that, way better than that. In 1081 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:30,839 Speaker 3: the touchdowns. 1082 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a hell of a run. And there were 1083 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 2: a bunch of those guys that had this little n 1084 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 2: I know. Yeah, it's crazy guy. He's on the Hall 1085 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 2: of Fame. By the way, you listen to a fifty 1086 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,879 Speaker 2: wkn R ESPN Cleveland, a good Carmer brand station will 1087 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 2: open up the mail bag coming up next. 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We'll start off with a little 1105 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 4: Twitter action looking through Clee fan in Chicago Burner check 1106 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 4: in from the soon to be minus thirty degree Misery 1107 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,560 Speaker 4: of Chicago shout out two things. When are we getting 1108 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 4: the overdue Gibbie camp. We have one, I just choose 1109 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 4: not to use it. Just so we're clear. More importantly, 1110 00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 4: who is your ideal dead or alive forsome? And what 1111 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 4: course are you playing. I feel like we've done this before, 1112 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,800 Speaker 4: but dead or alive maybe adds a little wrinkle. 1113 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 2: Ours are going to be very different just because of 1114 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 2: your golf prowess. So like I wouldn't want to play 1115 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 2: with Tiger Woods at all. I would feel like it 1116 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,360 Speaker 2: I would be a hindrance to his day, so I 1117 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,359 Speaker 2: would want no part of that. You probably have thought 1118 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,920 Speaker 2: about this a lot more than me. I know ld 1119 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,040 Speaker 2: is going to be on yours. I would assume Tiger 1120 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,920 Speaker 2: would be on yours. Who are those two on it? 1121 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:51,439 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1122 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,760 Speaker 3: I got me Tiger and Larry. Those are my first 1123 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 3: three automatics wrote. I wrote down a couple names. I 1124 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,319 Speaker 3: wrote down John Daily. I think he would be just 1125 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 3: so fun to golf with. And then I just wrote 1126 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 3: down this one that just popped into my head because 1127 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 3: given what I you know, my profession and what I do, 1128 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 3: I feel like Jim Nance would be a heck of 1129 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,800 Speaker 3: a lot of fun to play around of golf with me, Tiger, 1130 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 3: Larry and Jim Nantz. And then Nance could like commentate 1131 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 3: a couple of shots that you hit if he had, 1132 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:20,840 Speaker 3: you know, had a really good one and he could 1133 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,680 Speaker 3: be like, well, well this is it, isn't it. He 1134 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 3: did that for one of my buddies. So one of 1135 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 3: my buddies has Patterminane, who was the soon to be 1136 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 3: turning forty years old. He was the Pats fan who 1137 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,439 Speaker 3: totally went with Brady and now totally back with the Pats. 1138 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 3: So he's had like really no downtime, which has been 1139 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 3: great for him. But he had a buddy of his 1140 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 3: was at a wedding with Nance and they got Nance 1141 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 3: to record like him at eighteen and Augusta and Nan 1142 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 3: started with He's like, well this is it, isn't it? 1143 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 3: Fifteen feet to win the Masters, And like goes in 1144 00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 3: this whole spiel and it's like a minute and a 1145 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 3: half and it's perfect. 1146 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 2: Of course it's perfect. 1147 00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 3: So I think that's what I'm going with right now, 1148 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:09,040 Speaker 3: me Tiger Larry and Jim Nance, and I'm gonna have 1149 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 3: just because I can. It's we said dead or alive, 1150 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 3: and I can include this in there. Zago is going 1151 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 3: to be on my bag. I thought there was a 1152 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 3: rules and fractions that at everybody else it'll be great. 1153 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 3: Zago and Larry David together, would could just be the fireworks, 1154 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 3: could be off the charts. 1155 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,480 Speaker 2: There was a Gabby something or other who I know 1156 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 2: you enjoyed her sense of humor. I thought maybe she 1157 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 2: would be on your bag. 1158 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,200 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, she is one of the great comedians of 1159 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,080 Speaker 3: our time, one of the great performers. Yeah really no, 1160 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 3: not not not making it here. 1161 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,080 Speaker 2: I think it's for me. The place to play would 1162 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 2: be Cypress. Cypress. Yeah, so because I love Monterey, I 1163 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 2: love that area. 1164 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, Nance would show us get and he would know 1165 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:53,360 Speaker 3: the way around. 1166 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 2: And that's that's like the one that in Pine Valley. Like, 1167 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 2: I just don't know that there's any I don't know 1168 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 2: a single person who's ever played Cypress, like I know 1169 00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:05,120 Speaker 2: what you would do. 1170 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 3: I am jealous of quite a great many for you 1171 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 3: who have played Cypress and Pink Valley. 1172 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,680 Speaker 2: Do you have a great many who have played Cypress? 1173 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 2: Great many? Yeah? 1174 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,720 Speaker 3: Really, to me, a great many means more than five. 1175 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 5: Wow. 1176 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I don't know anybody who has the 1177 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:19,960 Speaker 2: one that. 1178 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 3: I don't know more than five who have played as Augusta. 1179 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 2: So I know more than five who have played Augusta. 1180 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 2: Might just been because I was in the South then, 1181 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 2: but I feel like Augusta is more doable. I think 1182 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 2: you could. I think that's I mean, you're as close 1183 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 2: now as you ever could be to playing any of 1184 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 2: those things. But like, but the reality is that even 1185 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 2: as a guess, sure well of course, yeah, but like 1186 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 2: individual from the standpoint of like, I just don't know, 1187 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 2: I can't see any scenario how it could ever play 1188 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 2: Cypress any other way. And I think that vista is 1189 00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 2: the most stunning vista sure of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1190 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 2: Have you had a good day on the man Mind peninsula. 1191 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 2: I think that's pretty damn close to heaven? Yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect. 1192 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 3: I think that'd probably think you're probably right. I think 1193 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 3: that's probably the number one choice. 1194 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 4: Uh love a dog today, choose one, abandon the other forever. 1195 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 4: Appetizers v desserts. 1196 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 2: This is going to be a controversial take. 1197 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,080 Speaker 3: I can only have one for the rest of my life. 1198 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 3: I can only have appetizers or desserts. 1199 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 2: Yes, appetizers. Nine question do you throw them out or 1200 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:28,959 Speaker 2: you keep them? 1201 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 4: Keeping them? 1202 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,120 Speaker 3: I love appetizers. I could totally do without them. 1203 01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 2: But appetizers I could do without them, Like, just get 1204 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,320 Speaker 2: to the get to the salad, the soups. Let's go. 1205 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 2: I don't really, I'm not a big app guy. 1206 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 3: So let me ask you a question, because this is 1207 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 3: funny to me, not what you said, but you'll under said. 1208 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:45,680 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you? 1209 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 3: I would imagine growing up like me, like apps were 1210 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,080 Speaker 3: not a part of it. We didn't go to dinner 1211 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 3: and then have apps, God, and then have our meals. 1212 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 2: I was dared. I would dare any of me or 1213 01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 2: my two brothers to sit down at any restaurant that 1214 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 2: we ever went to as a kid and say, could 1215 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 2: I get an app? How about with the shrimp cocktail? 1216 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1217 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 2: How about go to hell? Yeah? 1218 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1219 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 2: There were no apps? So funny. So now there was 1220 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:20,840 Speaker 2: a dessert either, never spamone for you, never for me. 1221 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 2: But I didn't like spamoni. I understand that. But I 1222 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 2: never had a dessert option either. So for to me, 1223 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,440 Speaker 2: apps and dessert. 1224 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I never really had dessert other than if it 1225 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 3: was in Echaspari's and there was spamoni. But what I 1226 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 3: want to do is go across the street to the 1227 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 3: ice cream shop where I get the flavor of ice 1228 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:38,920 Speaker 3: cream that I want. 1229 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,040 Speaker 2: It was right there, like a dollar, right across the street. 1230 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 3: You could see it from the restaurant and said, I 1231 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 3: had to watch the man drink his coffee. 1232 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah so no. 1233 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,919 Speaker 3: So anyway, what I when I was introduced to uh 1234 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 3: to Miss Kay's family and I became a part of 1235 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 3: their their family and my dining. I love apps, Yeah, 1236 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 3: I like I think once once I got the freedom 1237 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 3: of oh my, I can have these apps. Now there's 1238 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 3: a reason there first, and there's a nice there's a 1239 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 3: bunch of choices and they all sound great. Yeah, sure 1240 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,040 Speaker 3: cocktail and you know you want a Lilahi too, and 1241 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,640 Speaker 3: not sure, but I of those is my meal. 1242 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 2: Lobster s cargo absolutely signed me up. 1243 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 3: And I like a dumpling. You know I'd like a dumpling. 1244 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 3: So I love apps. So like are her family? Nobody 1245 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:30,240 Speaker 3: ever got apps? So I come in like an appetizer tornado. 1246 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,240 Speaker 2: And I'm like, wait a second, but people will sit 1247 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 2: down ordering we have any order of apps. 1248 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 3: And now now Jack Hay in particular, big fan of apps. 1249 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 3: Miss Ka loves apps. We go there's a lot of 1250 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 3: times where Miss can I will go to dinner, We'll 1251 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,080 Speaker 3: get a bunch of apps and then like split an 1252 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 3: Andre later on. Sometimes we don't even eat Andre. We 1253 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,160 Speaker 3: just do all apps. Okay, but they call in Spain, 1254 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,520 Speaker 3: they call that topus. That's so I love that, but 1255 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 3: I just consider that a meal. Yeah, Like that's just 1256 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 3: to me, Like that's not small bots. 1257 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1258 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,520 Speaker 3: I like to go like like when you if when 1259 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,680 Speaker 3: we finally do bust through this glass barrier between us 1260 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,480 Speaker 3: betwixt us and we have meals of food together, like 1261 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,040 Speaker 3: if you come my house, like we're gonna have like 1262 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 3: shrimp cocktail and some crab cakes while we're sitting around, 1263 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 3: you know, getting ready, okay, and then we're going to 1264 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 3: have the sake and the sides and this either south, 1265 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 3: like there's gonna be an appetite section. 1266 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1267 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now our dad loves a jalapeno popper. Loves a popper, 1268 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 3: loves him, he loves the popper, So we'll get him 1269 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 3: some poppers. Uh. 1270 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,240 Speaker 4: More from the Mailbag Trade carry. I've been listening for 1271 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 4: seven years. I still don't know what the orange drink 1272 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 4: that Nathan has? What is it? Excuse me, I don't 1273 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,439 Speaker 4: know the answer to this either. 1274 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 3: Was he talking about what I said? Like this the 1275 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,480 Speaker 3: soda that I haven't a little sunkiss a fantas I do, 1276 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 3: But I think what he's talking about is ollipop, which 1277 01:03:58,160 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 3: is those like. 1278 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 2: I think we time because I mention that the other day. 1279 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 3: Like I don't really drink soda anymore, but I will 1280 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,439 Speaker 3: have an ollipop which is like you know, the the 1281 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:12,720 Speaker 3: healthy probiotic soda. It's like probioic's good for you. It's 1282 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 3: like forty calories. It's not really soda. But let me 1283 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 3: tell you something. It's a light it tastes great, like you. 1284 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 3: You could tell me that was full throttle orange soda 1285 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 3: and I'd believe you. 1286 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,680 Speaker 2: And they have an orange believable the orange creamy. 1287 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:32,600 Speaker 3: Having a dreamsickle. It's like a dreamsickle, it really is. 1288 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 3: I have it sometimes I'll have it, like I can 1289 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 3: have a can of the dreamsickle last me for like 1290 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 3: a week, and I'll just like a sip before beds, 1291 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 3: like one sip and that's all that's all I need, 1292 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 3: just that taste. 1293 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 2: You're dis incredible on that. You did that with Foster 1294 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:49,520 Speaker 2: ice cream too. 1295 01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,160 Speaker 3: They have a banana soda that I have to be 1296 01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,320 Speaker 3: in the exact right mood for. 1297 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 2: I tried it. It didn't take. 1298 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, which means I haven't had It's not my fridge currently. 1299 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 3: But the cream sickle always is. You know, I'm not 1300 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,600 Speaker 3: a strawberry soda person. Yeah, so because they have a 1301 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:09,800 Speaker 3: strawberries and cream one too that I would imagine. I like, 1302 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 3: how could have been strawberries cream together? How could be bad? 1303 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 3: But you know, especially as a child, you know, I 1304 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,360 Speaker 3: was allowed deserted my nannies and it was all. But 1305 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 3: I was allowed one thing and. 1306 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 2: Gush darn it, it was great. 1307 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:25,400 Speaker 3: Which was Hagen DAW's vanilla and Hagenda's raspberry sorbet together. 1308 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 2: In one bowl a day ago. 1309 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 4: That's a treat. 1310 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Bobby time, Babby. 1311 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,160 Speaker 4: You had to fight one animal roughly your size once 1312 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 4: a year to keep your current lifestyle. What animal are 1313 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,160 Speaker 4: you choosing? How confident are you really? 1314 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:48,240 Speaker 2: The Golden Retriever? Very confident given your recent situation. Very confident. 1315 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:52,720 Speaker 2: There you go, no problem? What what is he talking about? 1316 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 2: You have to fight one animal to the death that's 1317 01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 2: roughly your size. 1318 01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if it doesn't like a gold 1319 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 3: I don't think a Golden Retriever is going to be 1320 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 3: your size. 1321 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 2: Buddy, guarantys if you put him on his hinds, on 1322 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 2: his haunches, yeah, he's already close. Yeah, he's about five me. 1323 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 2: He's not all the way there, but he's about five eight. 1324 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 2: I bet all right, I would. 1325 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 3: I would, Unfortunately I hate to do this to my buddy, 1326 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 3: the cook, but his dog Ruby would be who I 1327 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,160 Speaker 3: would choose because she can like stand up and put 1328 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 3: her paws on my shoulders. I'm convinced there's a human 1329 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 3: being wearing a dog consume in there because she like 1330 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 3: has human eyes. It's very odd. It is a wonderful dog. 1331 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:32,360 Speaker 5: But like. 1332 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 3: Smoker, like, no problem she has. I don't think she 1333 01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:39,520 Speaker 3: has a bad bone in her body. She's some type 1334 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 3: of a doodle something because she's got that's like, yeah, uh. 1335 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:49,680 Speaker 4: If society suddenly decided one mundane task was now an 1336 01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 4: Olympic sport, what are you absolutely meddling in? 1337 01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I think I can clean granite. 1338 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:04,760 Speaker 3: I'm a o our top cleaning beast. You give me 1339 01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 3: a bottle of a lemon flavored lysol and some paper towels, 1340 01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,040 Speaker 3: and I think I'm gonna do really good work. 1341 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,400 Speaker 4: I don't know why you have flavored, Like what are 1342 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,400 Speaker 4: you talking about? Like scented? Yeah, scented, all right, But 1343 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 4: he's he's sucking it down in flavored tea. 1344 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:19,439 Speaker 2: You know what I meant you doing? 1345 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 4: I actually we didn't. We need a little clarity. 1346 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,080 Speaker 2: And what do you think he's always in the g. 1347 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:24,760 Speaker 4: Man was the first one to question it. 1348 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:29,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, tough and lightsol exactly the uh I am incredible. 1349 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,800 Speaker 2: This just I couldn't think of anything. The first thing 1350 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 2: that popped into my head. I am incredibly proficient at 1351 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 2: wrapping with athletic tape the boys lacrosse sticks. I can 1352 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 2: do it right on the money in about thirty seconds. 1353 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 3: Mowing Alan, I gotta never be in that. That'd be 1354 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 3: Gibbet's event. I feel like Gibek and Molon with the 1355 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 3: best of them. 1356 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 2: Oh, I think. I think in another life he's like 1357 01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 2: one of those YouTube guys who mows like patterns. 1358 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, just has a couple of frosty ales. And by 1359 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:00,520 Speaker 3: the way, I was thinking about this early when I 1360 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:04,440 Speaker 3: was talking about uh Nanni and the the dessert that 1361 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:05,320 Speaker 3: I was able to have there. 1362 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 2: Do you think are kids. 1363 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 3: And then their kids will have any idea what it's 1364 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 3: like to go to their grandparents' house and be like, 1365 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,640 Speaker 3: why are there all these butter scotches? 1366 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 2: Oh god, no, hard candy? 1367 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 3: You mean yeah, hard hardy, the butterscotch and the yellow, 1368 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,320 Speaker 3: bright yellow wrapper. Then we evolved the Worther's original, but 1369 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,320 Speaker 3: I'm talking about the original one of the original butter 1370 01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 3: yellow paper. 1371 01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,400 Speaker 2: All they were that there were billions of them. 1372 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,479 Speaker 3: And then the strawberries in the thing where it had 1373 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 3: the little seeds, that strawberry wrapper that those were good. 1374 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:41,960 Speaker 4: Those are also the little root beer ones that was 1375 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:43,599 Speaker 4: not not for me, the little. 1376 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 2: Beer barrels. Yeah, here's the thing that's amazing about that. 1377 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:54,519 Speaker 2: They were typically housed in some sort of crystals, as 1378 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 2: if it was gold. Here is a nugget of gold 1379 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,040 Speaker 2: that you can have this hard Karen, beautiful bowls. 1380 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're beautiful crystal bowls. 1381 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. Could any crystal bowl you don't know, you know beautiful. 1382 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:09,439 Speaker 2: What I had just seen on that was on the 1383 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 2: Hunt for Red October, the guy who plays the US 1384 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 2: Secretary of Defense has one of those crystal things full 1385 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,439 Speaker 2: of hard candy, and when the Russian guy comes in 1386 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,759 Speaker 2: to talk about the lost sub he's sucking one down. Yeah, 1387 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 2: and I just thought, well, that's something that's lost. 1388 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:26,160 Speaker 3: That's such a by like every I would I would 1389 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:31,200 Speaker 3: imagine all of our grandparents had always, always, always just God, you. 1390 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,800 Speaker 2: Think that's just depression era, Like they just couldn't have 1391 01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,800 Speaker 2: candy and so then they just wanted it the ready. 1392 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, but it feels like there was a 1393 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,639 Speaker 3: the generation above us were like conscientious objectors to it. 1394 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,719 Speaker 2: Seems like it because they're a bunch of cruds. 1395 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like too and a butterscotch. It looked 1396 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:50,120 Speaker 3: like it was ensconstin gold. I mean that paper looked 1397 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:50,719 Speaker 3: like it was gold. 1398 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, good job on the mail, big kids. 1399 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 2: Benjamin Olibright, gonna join us, coming up next. The Browns 1400 01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 2: Daily were presented by bally Bed, official sports bening partner 1401 01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. Please Bet responsibly on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1402 01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, 1403 01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,799 Speaker 1: presented by bally Bet Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner 1404 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,280 Speaker 1: of your Cleveland Browns. 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Keep it Twisted, Cleveland, 1410 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,879 Speaker 3: and we're gonna be joined by oh friend of the program, 1411 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:49,439 Speaker 3: Ben Albright, NFL insider at Koway, Colorado, joining the show. 1412 01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 2: Ben, how are you. 1413 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,000 Speaker 5: I'm doing pretty well about yourself. 1414 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,680 Speaker 3: I'm doing great. Always good to talk to you. We'll 1415 01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 3: be seeing you down in Indie shortly, which will be 1416 01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,280 Speaker 3: a treat as it always is. But let me just 1417 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:05,360 Speaker 3: start here. What's the mood in Denver? You win a game, 1418 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,800 Speaker 3: you beat the Bills. It's jubilant. We're going to the 1419 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:10,840 Speaker 3: AFC Championshi game with the number one seed. And then 1420 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,080 Speaker 3: Sean Payton goes to put him, says, hey, Bonnicks broke 1421 01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,559 Speaker 3: his foot. He's out for the season. What's kind of 1422 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,639 Speaker 3: the what's the temperature there right now? 1423 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:21,440 Speaker 5: I would say kind of surreal. 1424 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:23,800 Speaker 9: I mean it feels surreal, I think to the fan 1425 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,240 Speaker 9: base to be here either way, and then to go 1426 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:31,040 Speaker 9: from the high of beating the Buffalo Bills after what 1427 01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,439 Speaker 9: happened with against the Bills last year, to the low 1428 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,160 Speaker 9: of losing bo Nicks for the remainder of it in 1429 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,799 Speaker 9: the span of moments was pretty jarring. 1430 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,120 Speaker 5: I will say though, the fan base has. 1431 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 9: Really done a great job kind of rallying behind the 1432 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,400 Speaker 9: idea of Jared Stidham, who's you know, the drop off 1433 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,040 Speaker 9: there isn't as big as people think it is, but 1434 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,200 Speaker 9: the fan base has really kind of glommed onto it. 1435 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,920 Speaker 9: There's a whole meme where everybody's changed their profile pictures 1436 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 9: to Jared Stidham and all that kind of stuff, and 1437 01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:57,960 Speaker 9: now they're having some fun with it and kind of 1438 01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 9: seeing where it can go. 1439 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,840 Speaker 3: How's bo Nick's doing, Like, not physically, but just this 1440 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,160 Speaker 3: has got to be devastating for him. Such a competitor, 1441 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 3: such a tough kid, and you know, brought here to 1442 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 3: win and you know, two games away from winning the 1443 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,000 Speaker 3: whole thing, one game away from going to the Super Bowl. 1444 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:15,599 Speaker 3: I had imagine just got to be tough on him. 1445 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:17,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty tough. 1446 01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,599 Speaker 9: I mean he he had his surgery on Tuesday, food 1447 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,719 Speaker 9: down to Alabama, then came back that night, and he's 1448 01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:25,759 Speaker 9: just been kind of, you know, trying to be supportive 1449 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,840 Speaker 9: of the team as a whole. But you know, people 1450 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,160 Speaker 9: close to him say he's, you know, he's kind. 1451 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,320 Speaker 5: Of bitter about the fact. 1452 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,439 Speaker 9: That he's Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, you 1453 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:37,400 Speaker 9: got you got everything there and now you're you know, 1454 01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:38,639 Speaker 9: and now you're out, and you got to come back 1455 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:40,479 Speaker 9: next year and do it. He's happy for his guys, 1456 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:41,639 Speaker 9: but you know, he's key kind. 1457 01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:42,799 Speaker 5: Of wants to be out there leading them. 1458 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,200 Speaker 3: What did you make of the calls in that game? 1459 01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,439 Speaker 3: And obviously that the catch no catch, catch no, actually 1460 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,800 Speaker 3: not no catch, catch, interception, some of the pi's that 1461 01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:57,679 Speaker 3: obviously have drawn a lot of scrutiny around the football world. 1462 01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:03,160 Speaker 9: Well for well, the interceptions officiated correctly. You know, you 1463 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,320 Speaker 9: have to complete the process of the catch for anything 1464 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 9: else to count, and you can clearly see from the 1465 01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,719 Speaker 9: one angle with the balls moving throughout the entire process, 1466 01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,760 Speaker 9: you complete the process of the catch. So that's an interception. Now, 1467 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,519 Speaker 9: if Buffalo fans want to complain about those pis or 1468 01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,639 Speaker 9: or lack of them from the other side, hey, I'm 1469 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,760 Speaker 9: here for that discussion. That second p I looked like 1470 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,599 Speaker 9: PI that first one. I think we got away with 1471 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 9: one on that first one. 1472 01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,280 Speaker 3: For being tough in the circumstance. Yeah, tough in the circumstance. 1473 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't you know. 1474 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 9: And then you're then you're talking about a situation where 1475 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,040 Speaker 9: that you know, the Broncos, the most penalized defense in league, 1476 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,240 Speaker 9: didn't get any in ball pen at least the entire game. 1477 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 9: I mean, I think Broucos fans will definitely take that, 1478 01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,320 Speaker 9: But I think we're also kind of looking at this like, 1479 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:43,559 Speaker 9: I think we got away with a few. 1480 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:49,080 Speaker 3: Now that game and that call on the interception, I like, 1481 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:51,840 Speaker 3: I know, you can't slow down. I could see how 1482 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:53,799 Speaker 3: it is a catch. I just think that's a tough spot. 1483 01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 3: Every that is that is a very very difficult play 1484 01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,160 Speaker 3: for officials to officiate and and to have an impact 1485 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,759 Speaker 3: like that is a game changing play. If that's a catch, 1486 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,960 Speaker 3: they probably win the game. The Broncos season's over. It's 1487 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,639 Speaker 3: not a catch, it's a interception. Broncos. 1488 01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,120 Speaker 2: Now we know are going on what did you make? 1489 01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,599 Speaker 3: Because you obviously the Broncos, but you are very plugged 1490 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 3: into the whole league. I got to get your take 1491 01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:17,479 Speaker 3: on this. McDermott out being promoted and then a press 1492 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,240 Speaker 3: conference that is one for the ages. 1493 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean a disaster class. Honestly, you know, it's 1494 01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 9: funny how they got you get the owner. They are 1495 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,000 Speaker 9: talking about how that that was poorly officiated, but also 1496 01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:32,640 Speaker 9: said the result of the game is the reason that 1497 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,160 Speaker 9: he fired McDermott. And I'm like, okay, so you're saying 1498 01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,240 Speaker 9: that you make decisions based on what you think is 1499 01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 9: a bad a bad call. And then you've got that, 1500 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:44,439 Speaker 9: you know, you get the the presser where he's blaming 1501 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,200 Speaker 9: the coach for drafting Keon Coleman. Meanwhile, we've got the 1502 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,000 Speaker 9: tape from the comfince and the documentary they filmed where 1503 01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 9: he's admitting that he's happy that he ran the slow 1504 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,800 Speaker 9: forty because that's his guy, and oh, it's just a 1505 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 9: disaster there, Buffalo right now. It's interesting because I don't 1506 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,880 Speaker 9: think you fire somebody that late in the process. I mean, 1507 01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,639 Speaker 9: everybody else had a two week jump on them, right. 1508 01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,639 Speaker 9: I don't think you fire somebody that laid the process 1509 01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,360 Speaker 9: unless you've either got a handshake agreement with somebody or 1510 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,080 Speaker 9: you're playing on promoting from within, like you know, like 1511 01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:11,920 Speaker 9: a Joe Brady or something. So I would not be 1512 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:15,280 Speaker 9: surprised to see Dabe or Brady ultimately wind up with that. 1513 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,599 Speaker 3: Job, which makes sense because I would imagine somebody who 1514 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:21,040 Speaker 3: didn't have any kind of ties or experience in that 1515 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,960 Speaker 3: organization would have seen that press conference and the structure 1516 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,600 Speaker 3: that they have laid out that yes, you will be 1517 01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,519 Speaker 3: reporting to Bean. That that might not be as appealing 1518 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,080 Speaker 3: to other candidates as maybe it was prior to that 1519 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:32,799 Speaker 3: press conference. 1520 01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,720 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, it's a comedy show at this point. I mean, 1521 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,880 Speaker 9: Brandon Bean, Billy Bean, mister Bean doesn't matter. I wouldn't 1522 01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:39,720 Speaker 9: want to be reported to that. 1523 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 3: Mister Bean is a tremendous comedian. All right, let's talk 1524 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:47,639 Speaker 3: now about this matchup. You know, this is a game 1525 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,240 Speaker 3: that I think we were going through. We play, I 1526 01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,160 Speaker 3: think all we do, guest the guests the lines here 1527 01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,519 Speaker 3: where I think it had bon Next been the starting quarterback, 1528 01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,000 Speaker 3: that the Broncos are favored in this game. They're obviously 1529 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,360 Speaker 3: four and a half point underdogs in this one. How 1530 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,360 Speaker 3: do you see them matching up with Newing England and 1531 01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,440 Speaker 3: what are in your minds that the keys to determining 1532 01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:04,080 Speaker 3: the outcome here? 1533 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,000 Speaker 9: Well, I think they match up pretty well, to be 1534 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,280 Speaker 9: honest with you. You know, New England is very good 1535 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,280 Speaker 9: at home there. They're much much worse on the road, 1536 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,200 Speaker 9: which I mean, to be fair, most teams are, but 1537 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:14,640 Speaker 9: they're much much worse on the road. You look at 1538 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,320 Speaker 9: the yard per play differential, h they are much much 1539 01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,360 Speaker 9: worse on the road. I think the Broncos match up 1540 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 9: pretty well both offensively and defensively. I think the real 1541 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:24,240 Speaker 9: key to this game is going to be how much 1542 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:28,080 Speaker 9: pressure the Broncos can get on Drake May. And you 1543 01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,000 Speaker 9: know they are the highest sacking team in the league, 1544 01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,559 Speaker 9: and Will Campbell looks very, very beatable. And then the 1545 01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:34,160 Speaker 9: other side of that is how clean they can play 1546 01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 9: with Jared Stidam. Just don't turn it over. Student's gonna 1547 01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 9: take a few more sacks than bow you lose a 1548 01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,800 Speaker 9: little bit of mobility, but you know, I've seen him before. 1549 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,960 Speaker 9: He can run this offense. And you know, outside of they're 1550 01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:45,599 Speaker 9: they're gonna have to hand it off to the running back, 1551 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,800 Speaker 9: but for the rushing yards, but otherwise, just don't turn 1552 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,120 Speaker 9: it over. If you don't turn it over, I think 1553 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,240 Speaker 9: the Broncos can win this thing. And if I'm being 1554 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,439 Speaker 9: completely transparent with you, I've got to I've got to 1555 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,160 Speaker 9: take it on the Broncos money line, So. 1556 01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,200 Speaker 3: Putting his money where his mouth has been. Albright Ar, Yes, 1557 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,759 Speaker 3: right here, he's back in the Broncos. What is Sidham? 1558 01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:04,600 Speaker 3: I know he's kind of a little bit more of 1559 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,920 Speaker 3: a gunslinger maybe than than bow. Next, what does he 1560 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:07,679 Speaker 3: what does he. 1561 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:11,599 Speaker 9: Bring well, I mean he's been around a long time. 1562 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,679 Speaker 9: You know, he obviously went Patriots and Raiders with Josh McDaniels, 1563 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:17,960 Speaker 9: so he knows the opposing offense. But he's been with 1564 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,000 Speaker 9: Sean Payton for three years here. He played two games 1565 01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:21,759 Speaker 9: in the last two games of the season when Russell 1566 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,320 Speaker 9: Wilson got benched in that inauggural season. We've seen him 1567 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,200 Speaker 9: in the preseason. I've seen him at practice. He's just 1568 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,360 Speaker 9: he's he's willing to hang in there and let stuff 1569 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,800 Speaker 9: develop a little bit longer, where Bo kind of has 1570 01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,880 Speaker 9: this real sped up clock and he'll he'll hit the 1571 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,840 Speaker 9: first read. If it's not there, he's either dumping it 1572 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,400 Speaker 9: down or taken off. Jared Stidham's not taken off. I 1573 01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 9: mean he will occasionally, but he's more of a hang 1574 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,560 Speaker 9: in there, let a play develop, and I'm going to 1575 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,200 Speaker 9: find a guy and get it to him kind of guys. 1576 01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,080 Speaker 9: So you get to take a few more sacks that way, 1577 01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,080 Speaker 9: but you're also going to see some more explosive plays. 1578 01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:50,600 Speaker 9: And you know, I think that plays a little bit 1579 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:51,439 Speaker 9: in the Broncos favor. 1580 01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be a fun one. 1581 01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,919 Speaker 3: I saw that they opened the practice window on JK. Dobbins. 1582 01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 3: Is he does he have a chance to play in 1583 01:17:59,240 --> 01:17:59,559 Speaker 3: this game? 1584 01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:04,080 Speaker 9: He does Right now, they're testing that foot out that 1585 01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,160 Speaker 9: we've got. We're wrapping up practice here in about fifteen 1586 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,880 Speaker 9: minutes or so, but he's been testing that foot out 1587 01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,519 Speaker 9: this week and they they're cautiously optimistic that he's going 1588 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,639 Speaker 9: to be able to go. The other questions, Wattenburg will 1589 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:20,400 Speaker 9: be a go at center, and then the receivers, Troy Franklin. 1590 01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,599 Speaker 9: I doubt it, we'll see, and then Pat Bryant, who 1591 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,960 Speaker 9: had the concussion his second in a month in that 1592 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,559 Speaker 9: last game. He's going through the protocol. The extra day 1593 01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,120 Speaker 9: will allow him to clear it, but the controls are tighter, 1594 01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,320 Speaker 9: so we won't really know about that until tomorrow. 1595 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,000 Speaker 3: As somebody who are we do a lot on the 1596 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:38,760 Speaker 3: show here. We have a big playoff fantas league and 1597 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:39,160 Speaker 3: I got r J. 1598 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:40,559 Speaker 2: Harvey. I don't need JK. Dobbins. 1599 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,080 Speaker 3: I need more RJ. Harvey. 1600 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:43,679 Speaker 5: Well. 1601 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:46,519 Speaker 9: RJ is great catching the ball out of the backfield. 1602 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,639 Speaker 9: The problem for r J's he's just not an instinctive 1603 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,800 Speaker 9: runner right now. And you know, when you look at that, 1604 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 9: he's only been a running back for like three years. 1605 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,200 Speaker 9: He was a quarterback before that, and so you can 1606 01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 9: kind of see it when he's running. They love to 1607 01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:57,920 Speaker 9: use him down there in the you know, the goal 1608 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,719 Speaker 9: line situations and can spam in those touches down catches. 1609 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,240 Speaker 9: But he's more Reggie Bush than he is, you know, 1610 01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:04,719 Speaker 9: pure running back at the belt. 1611 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's go back to McDermott. You also, 1612 01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,200 Speaker 3: you've been i know, following you on on social media, 1613 01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:12,840 Speaker 3: you have, you know, you've kind of talked about these 1614 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,720 Speaker 3: coaching vacancies, jobs, whatever. So let's kind of go through those. 1615 01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,760 Speaker 3: Where do you see McDermott ending up. 1616 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:21,479 Speaker 9: I think he's going to wind up taking the year 1617 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:25,080 Speaker 9: off and in cashing that buffalo check just because the 1618 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:30,599 Speaker 9: jobs that are available left for him aren't really frankly good, 1619 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:32,920 Speaker 9: you know, at the risk of at the risk of 1620 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,920 Speaker 9: saying saying so, I mean, you don't when you get 1621 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,360 Speaker 9: your second head coaching opportunity, you got to make it 1622 01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:38,160 Speaker 9: worth your while. 1623 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:38,559 Speaker 5: You can't. 1624 01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,719 Speaker 9: You can't get in a situation down there like Arizona 1625 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,479 Speaker 9: or you've got a bad owner and in a tough 1626 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,240 Speaker 9: division and you're going to get run out in a 1627 01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:44,880 Speaker 9: couple of years. 1628 01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:46,040 Speaker 2: So what about them? 1629 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:51,160 Speaker 9: Well, I don't think he's Yeah, I think that's going 1630 01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,719 Speaker 9: to be Jesse Mintor with probably Cliff Kingsbury as his OC. 1631 01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,240 Speaker 5: What all said and done, so you know, we'll see. 1632 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,360 Speaker 9: Pittsburgh looks like it's going to be either Chris Schule 1633 01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:02,120 Speaker 9: or Sielhigh. Maybe maybe McCarthy talks him into it, but 1634 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:03,800 Speaker 9: I don't think so. I think you're gonna wind up 1635 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:07,640 Speaker 9: with Chris Schuler there at Pittsburgh. 1636 01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,320 Speaker 3: And you what are you hearing or what are you 1637 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,960 Speaker 3: thinking on ours? Where we've got kind of Jim Schwartz 1638 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,240 Speaker 3: and he got schiel House and he got Grant Yudinsky At. 1639 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,599 Speaker 9: This point, well, I've said from the jump, I thought 1640 01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:18,280 Speaker 9: it was probably going to be schwartzand or Yudinsky, maybe 1641 01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:19,559 Speaker 9: maybe a combination of both. 1642 01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:20,920 Speaker 5: We'll see. 1643 01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,360 Speaker 9: You know, you Dinski is an up and comer in 1644 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,000 Speaker 9: this league, but I questioned his ability to put a 1645 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,479 Speaker 9: staff together at this point. He doesn't know anybody, you 1646 01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:30,800 Speaker 9: know around the league. He hasn't worked enough places to 1647 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,360 Speaker 9: know people to put together a full staff. Yet, same 1648 01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,519 Speaker 9: thing with shil has so That's that's sort of the thing. 1649 01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:35,880 Speaker 5: I think. 1650 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,040 Speaker 9: You know, if you can find a combination where you 1651 01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 9: can bring one of those guys in, maybe Sheil Hass 1652 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,600 Speaker 9: is the OC and and and Schwartz is kind of 1653 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:44,519 Speaker 9: the head coach for now and then you know, you 1654 01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,000 Speaker 9: kind of groom him a little bit. Maybe he got 1655 01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 9: something in the future. But I think it's going to 1656 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,919 Speaker 9: be some combination of Yudinsky and Schwartz personally. 1657 01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:53,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think a lot of people are excited 1658 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:54,680 Speaker 3: about that. You wouldn't have to do he wouldn't have 1659 01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:56,880 Speaker 3: to pull anything for a defensive staff in that case 1660 01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:58,840 Speaker 3: with yu Didnsky, because you'd have Shwartz and the and 1661 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:00,680 Speaker 3: the excellent staffs at the rounds out of there and 1662 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:02,799 Speaker 3: you just have to bring in some pieces on offense. 1663 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,840 Speaker 3: And see, ultimately, I guess what that looks like? What 1664 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,160 Speaker 3: do you make of this kind of coaching cycle where 1665 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,679 Speaker 3: we had, you know, a couple of hires right away. 1666 01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:14,280 Speaker 3: You get Harbaugh right away, you get Kevin Stefanski soon thereafter. 1667 01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,360 Speaker 3: You know Halfley now is down there in Miami. But 1668 01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:20,760 Speaker 3: there's still so many openings and it like, is this 1669 01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:24,040 Speaker 3: all going to happen kind of quickly? Next week because 1670 01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,400 Speaker 3: I know teams are waiting on some guys. Everybody who's 1671 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,519 Speaker 3: on the Rams or the Broncos, you know that they're 1672 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,920 Speaker 3: waiting for those guys or the Seahawks to be able 1673 01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,760 Speaker 3: to to finish the for they can't interview in person 1674 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,040 Speaker 3: until next Monday, right. 1675 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,479 Speaker 9: That's that's the big component of that, specifically with Arizona 1676 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:42,720 Speaker 9: and with the Raiders, the Arizona Cardinals or I advanced Joseph. 1677 01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,439 Speaker 9: You know, obviously he's got previous ten hear it's down 1678 01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,760 Speaker 9: here as their defensive coordinators, so you know they can't 1679 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,200 Speaker 9: interview him. And then Kubiak over there for the Raiders. 1680 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,680 Speaker 9: You know, somebody else that's in their web is theoretically 1681 01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,240 Speaker 9: in play for the Raiders as well, but I think 1682 01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,559 Speaker 9: kubi x the apple of their eye, so we'll see. 1683 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,200 Speaker 9: But that's that's really why you've seen this come coming 1684 01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:01,120 Speaker 9: in chunks. The guys who are availab the top tier guys, 1685 01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,000 Speaker 9: those go first, and then you know, you see a 1686 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,080 Speaker 9: smattering of other things. Then you'll see it go fast 1687 01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,599 Speaker 9: next week once we know who's playing in the Super Bowl, 1688 01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 9: who can interview that kind of stuff. 1689 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:14,439 Speaker 3: Bennett is always a pleasure, good luck on your with 1690 01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,640 Speaker 3: your ticket there on the Broncos. Check him out at 1691 01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:21,000 Speaker 3: Koa Colorado out there where he's the NFL insider and 1692 01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:24,080 Speaker 3: Broncos insider and does a great many things fall him 1693 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,720 Speaker 3: on Twitter as well at Albright NFL. He is a 1694 01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:28,639 Speaker 3: great friend of the program. Great talking to you, dude. 1695 01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:30,559 Speaker 5: Thanks, look forward to seeing it any bother. 1696 01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:31,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see in Indy. 1697 01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:33,320 Speaker 3: All right when we come back. We'll get a little 1698 01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:33,639 Speaker 3: bit more. 1699 01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:34,960 Speaker 2: Mail bag. Wrap it up here. 1700 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,639 Speaker 3: You are listening to Cleveland Browns Daily presented by ballyt Bette, 1701 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:39,759 Speaker 3: official sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. 1702 01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:51,439 Speaker 1: Please bet responsibly. You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on 1703 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,920 Speaker 1: eight fifty ESPN Cleveland presented by bally Bet Sportsbook, an 1704 01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:59,800 Speaker 1: official sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns. Please bet responsibly. 1705 01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:09,960 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Cleveland Browns Daily. Wrapping it up here 1706 01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,120 Speaker 3: on a Thursday edition of the program. We're gonna bring 1707 01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:14,800 Speaker 3: back in the great Gibe. We got a little bit more. 1708 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,800 Speaker 4: We a lot of great questions. We'll get to as 1709 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,400 Speaker 4: many as we can. Maybe we'll get to something that 1710 01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:27,240 Speaker 4: someone was all worried about us getting to. Okay, Sorry, 1711 01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,360 Speaker 4: he doesn't have anything else to do in life. Would 1712 01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,200 Speaker 4: you rather your phone only charge in public places or 1713 01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,840 Speaker 4: only work well plugged in? Bobby time? 1714 01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:42,160 Speaker 3: Would I rather my phone only charge in public places 1715 01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:44,720 Speaker 3: or only work when it's plugging? No, I don't want 1716 01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:46,080 Speaker 3: it to have to be plugged in. That doesn't make 1717 01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:46,639 Speaker 3: any sense at. 1718 01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,720 Speaker 2: All, well, he asked, I'm just asking it. 1719 01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,760 Speaker 3: No that I would charge in a public place. There 1720 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,679 Speaker 3: you go like, this is a public place, we'd charge 1721 01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:55,320 Speaker 3: our phones here. 1722 01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,639 Speaker 4: I'd like to think. So, would you rather be famous 1723 01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:07,640 Speaker 4: for something embarrassing or incredibly rich but mildly disliked? So 1724 01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,559 Speaker 4: let me let me The English language escaped me for 1725 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,200 Speaker 4: a quick second. Yeah, would it rather be famous for 1726 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:15,400 Speaker 4: something embarrassing? 1727 01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:15,839 Speaker 2: Okay? 1728 01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:21,800 Speaker 4: Or incredibly rich but mildly disliked. I'm going option B 1729 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,920 Speaker 4: same perfect Like, go ahead. 1730 01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 3: My fame is does that fame like? 1731 01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:30,080 Speaker 5: To me? 1732 01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,040 Speaker 3: When you say famous or something embarrassing, it's almost like 1733 01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,839 Speaker 3: you're infamous like El Guapo in famous? 1734 01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:35,320 Speaker 2: But are you? 1735 01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,559 Speaker 3: Does that fame lead to great wealth and a great life? 1736 01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:40,120 Speaker 2: The other one? 1737 01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,040 Speaker 3: It sounds like at least you have that mildly and disliked. 1738 01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:44,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I would imagine that most people that are 1739 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:49,000 Speaker 3: successful and well to have some haters, and it's only 1740 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:58,120 Speaker 3: mildly disliked. Right, mildly, no brain, no brainer, salt. Would 1741 01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,160 Speaker 3: you rather always be ten minutes it's late to everything? 1742 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:06,640 Speaker 3: Or always be twenty minutes early and forced to forced. 1743 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,960 Speaker 4: To just sit there alone? I already know the answer. 1744 01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:09,120 Speaker 5: To this. 1745 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,920 Speaker 2: For you. First of all, you don't know the answer. 1746 01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:14,840 Speaker 5: I do know. 1747 01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:20,160 Speaker 3: I would I find I one million shock you. I'm 1748 01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:25,080 Speaker 3: going to shock you right now. I don't want to 1749 01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,760 Speaker 3: be early, nor do I want to be late. I 1750 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:28,639 Speaker 3: want to be on time. 1751 01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:30,080 Speaker 2: However on time. 1752 01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:34,719 Speaker 3: I find being ten minutes late somewhere is so rude. 1753 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:37,280 Speaker 3: So I want to be on time. And I lived 1754 01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:39,160 Speaker 3: a portion of my life where there was a lot 1755 01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:43,680 Speaker 3: of lateness due to circumstances beyond my control. I don't 1756 01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:44,200 Speaker 3: want to do that. 1757 01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:45,479 Speaker 2: I would be. 1758 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,800 Speaker 3: I would be, I would be early, and I would 1759 01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:50,439 Speaker 3: complain about it for twenty minutes. I'd like, I'm just 1760 01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,559 Speaker 3: sitting here doing nothing. I would do a lot of complaining. 1761 01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,240 Speaker 2: I feel like that's a daily thing here. 1762 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:58,240 Speaker 3: But that's a that's a reasonable but yeah, yes, but right, 1763 01:25:58,439 --> 01:25:59,960 Speaker 3: But have I ever come, I've never come. 1764 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,760 Speaker 2: I'm late you toe the line exceptionally. 1765 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 3: Well, those times when I come running in when the 1766 01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,200 Speaker 3: show's on, I'm like here in the building, I'm like, 1767 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,960 Speaker 3: I'm involved in meetings and discussions. 1768 01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,160 Speaker 4: You almost said that you almost got through that without laughing. 1769 01:26:17,640 --> 01:26:20,040 Speaker 2: Well, true, it's true. 1770 01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,320 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, right. 1771 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:26,960 Speaker 3: Doesn't peanut gallery. 1772 01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,599 Speaker 4: A lot of stifling going on back here. 1773 01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:32,320 Speaker 3: The truth is, I don't like wasting. Nobody likes to 1774 01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:37,559 Speaker 3: have their time wasted. When I'm early, I'm not the 1775 01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,200 Speaker 3: reason necessarily that time is being wasted, right, that's just 1776 01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,160 Speaker 3: a circumstance. I don't want to be the reason that 1777 01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,479 Speaker 3: somebody else's time is wasted. I feel badly about that. 1778 01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:46,680 Speaker 4: If that's fair, all right, all right, I'll give you 1779 01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:49,840 Speaker 4: a haul passed their thank you the clown with a 1780 01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:55,240 Speaker 4: few questions. What's a small habit or routine that genuinely 1781 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:56,240 Speaker 4: makes your day better? 1782 01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:57,080 Speaker 2: Question? 1783 01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:57,599 Speaker 4: Sucks? 1784 01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:00,240 Speaker 2: Well right now? 1785 01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:01,040 Speaker 4: It is? 1786 01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:02,240 Speaker 2: It is. 1787 01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:06,040 Speaker 3: I make bottles for Luke so that he can have 1788 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,639 Speaker 3: sustenance and live. I like to clean the granite. 1789 01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,000 Speaker 2: We already know. That's my Olympics sport. 1790 01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:13,760 Speaker 5: I love to do that. 1791 01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,519 Speaker 3: I love to do a little Yeah, she confirmed it, said, yes, 1792 01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,439 Speaker 3: you would be very good I like to do the dishes. 1793 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,479 Speaker 3: I like to I like to leave a clean kitchen. 1794 01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,639 Speaker 2: I don't like to have filth. 1795 01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:27,679 Speaker 4: I like that. Uh. 1796 01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:29,800 Speaker 2: What's one thing working out? I would say working out. 1797 01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,479 Speaker 2: I gotta workout make you feel much better. 1798 01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,240 Speaker 4: What's one thing you've changed your mind about in the 1799 01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,760 Speaker 4: last few years and what caused the shift? 1800 01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,120 Speaker 2: H Mmm? 1801 01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:52,599 Speaker 3: Now, No, it's not go crazy and act like I'm 1802 01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,920 Speaker 3: gonna go dip something in yellow mustard. But I don't mind. 1803 01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,479 Speaker 3: I'm trying to warm up to mustard a little bit. 1804 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:01,760 Speaker 3: I'm not all the way there, but I'm trying. 1805 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:04,519 Speaker 2: A lot of different mustard options. 1806 01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:08,519 Speaker 3: Honey mustard, I'm in, okay, a hot honey mustard more 1807 01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:13,839 Speaker 3: in a stone ground. I'm not afraid of. The yellow 1808 01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,400 Speaker 3: is not for me. A straight yellow is not for me. 1809 01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,200 Speaker 3: It's good, is that for me? But I'll use it 1810 01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,720 Speaker 3: like I would in the in the olden days, I 1811 01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,160 Speaker 3: would have never even like use that. Sometimes I you 1812 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 3: make like pork and pork roast and you want to. 1813 01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,080 Speaker 2: Use that use a yellow mustard as a base with 1814 01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:32,040 Speaker 2: a lot of my smoking. 1815 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, so like but it doesn't taste like mustard, correct, 1816 01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,760 Speaker 3: But that so that's something that I used to be like, adamantly, no, 1817 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,320 Speaker 3: you cannot put that on there, And now I'm okay. 1818 01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:46,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm going to edit this question. If you 1819 01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,439 Speaker 4: could have dinner with any fictional character from book, movie, game, 1820 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:52,920 Speaker 4: et cetera, who and why? But I'm taking out Larry David. 1821 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:54,080 Speaker 2: Oh, he's a real person. 1822 01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:06,240 Speaker 4: Also that I feel like it's someone from Game of 1823 01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,040 Speaker 4: Thrones you'd like to have a conversation with. 1824 01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,080 Speaker 2: That would be a good one, it says. I'm really 1825 01:29:13,680 --> 01:29:14,559 Speaker 2: say give it to me again. 1826 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:19,879 Speaker 4: If you're could have dinner with any fictional character from books, movies, games, 1827 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,919 Speaker 4: et cetera, who and why? 1828 01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,160 Speaker 2: So, like is is the rock of fictional character? 1829 01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:34,040 Speaker 4: Probably not. That's where the area comes in. 1830 01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:35,439 Speaker 2: That's a little a gray area. 1831 01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:37,920 Speaker 3: I think like there's a time in my life where 1832 01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:39,880 Speaker 3: I would have wanted to talk to Jack Bauer and 1833 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,720 Speaker 3: just made sure he was like my homie, made sure 1834 01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,160 Speaker 3: he was on my side, like your dog, Hey Jack, 1835 01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,880 Speaker 3: I have a problem. You'll give him little wink and 1836 01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:51,960 Speaker 3: he's like you don't anymore, pedro guy, Yeah. 1837 01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:54,320 Speaker 4: This problem. 1838 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:54,759 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1839 01:29:54,800 --> 01:30:00,640 Speaker 3: So he's somebody. Okay, I'm and I would love to 1840 01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:05,200 Speaker 3: hang out with Daniel Day Lewis's character from lassa Mohicans, 1841 01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:06,760 Speaker 3: just because I love that movie and I feel like 1842 01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:08,160 Speaker 3: me and him would have a heck of a time 1843 01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:08,479 Speaker 3: out there. 1844 01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:10,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 1845 01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and then the other answer would be like, right, like, 1846 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:17,680 Speaker 3: maybe I'd like to have a meal cooked for me 1847 01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:20,000 Speaker 3: by the rat from Ratituey. 1848 01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:22,679 Speaker 4: Maybe we'll put that in the new radio booth. 1849 01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:27,120 Speaker 3: That could be the Ratituey rat. Yeah, we watched that 1850 01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:30,200 Speaker 3: with I watched that with Luca the other day. Fine film, actually, 1851 01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:33,320 Speaker 3: really good, final one from the Clown. What's a childhood 1852 01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:34,960 Speaker 3: memory that still makes you smile? 1853 01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:35,639 Speaker 4: No matter what? 1854 01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:39,559 Speaker 2: I don't know if you have any childhood memories. 1855 01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:43,559 Speaker 3: Yeah then I mean Niners Super Bowls were great. That 1856 01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:48,200 Speaker 3: makes me smile. Game three of that World Series where 1857 01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,280 Speaker 3: Maguire hit the walk off, That one makes me smile. 1858 01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,519 Speaker 3: I was there, met Dwight Clark in a full length 1859 01:30:52,560 --> 01:31:00,400 Speaker 3: for lots of things, man, I was the King of 1860 01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:03,720 Speaker 3: the Circus. 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