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Speaker 1: Welcome to everybody to a Wednesday edition Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: Are I love saying that right in the middle of June. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I might be the middle of June, but summer is here.

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Speaker 1: And we could see it today at OTA's I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: John Harris Football on a sideline reporter. We're gonna break

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Speaker 1: all of that down. Some news we've got Philip Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from in just a little bit. We've

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Speaker 1: got it in the laborage Doherty that we would have

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Speaker 1: a little later on talking about the old line at

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Speaker 1: James Camping. That was a really great interview that we

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Speaker 1: had last night. And we did that interview me John

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Speaker 1: and the Boys of Texans Mark Vandemir, Mark, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing, my friend? Welcome the show. Johnny am doing great.

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Speaker 1: And it was interesting today we saw the final offseason

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Speaker 1: practice for the Houston Texans until they get to training

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Speaker 1: camp in late July, and I thought it was interesting

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Speaker 1: how they decided not to have them any camp. They

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Speaker 1: had great attendance during these OTAs, they loved the work

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Speaker 1: they got done. They actually put it out there. They

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Speaker 1: didn't say this till today, and I don't blame them

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Speaker 1: that They met with the players a while ago and said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: if we get great attendance, we get great participation, we

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Speaker 1: will do away with the mandatory mini camp. You can

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Speaker 1: start your summer break early. And how much of a

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Speaker 1: break is it? Really? They're working out through the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: It's not like, you know what, I can get fat

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Speaker 1: now the next few weeks, because it doesn't matter. But

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Speaker 1: it's great because it gave them that carrot. Johnny and

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Speaker 1: I think that they're really happy. Obviously they are with

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Speaker 1: the amount of work they got done. And let's rock

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Speaker 1: and roll. Baby Training camp starts soon enough, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll get to a piece of news and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about OTAs before you get to Philip Lindsay. But

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Speaker 1: I really feel like I need to opene my opinion

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Speaker 1: because I knew as soon as I heard. As soon

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Speaker 1: as I heard that mini camp was going to be canceled,

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Speaker 1: I thought about two things. Number One, I thought about

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Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Colts. And I'll explain why the

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Speaker 1: Eagles and the Colts. I've read this back in May.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles and the Holts both met with their players,

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Speaker 1: this is what our offseason is going to be. Both

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Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Colts had no mandatory mini camp. Oh,

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Speaker 1: no mandatory minicamp for the Eagles or the Colts. The

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers basically had all the young guys practicing and then

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Speaker 1: with no coaches. Oh my god, a split squad. The

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Speaker 1: vitriol about no mandatory mini camp is absurd. It makes

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Speaker 1: me like I want to vomit when I hear it.

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Speaker 1: I think back to two thousand and seven. Mark. Okay,

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Speaker 1: a quick question. What's more important OTAs minicamp or training camp?

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Speaker 1: Training camp is more Importan training camp is more important? Right? Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: on the first day at training camp in two thousand

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Speaker 1: that name should sound familiar, right, two thousand and seven Giants. Hey,

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Speaker 1: that team won a Super Bowl, right. You know what

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Speaker 1: they did in the first day of mini camp or

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Speaker 1: the first day of training train camp, sorry, not mini camp,

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Speaker 1: training camp. You know what they did in the first

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Speaker 1: go and spend two hours of meetings which they could have,

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and six season ended, and it was dreadful. No,

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Speaker 1: the future Super Bowl champions went bowling, and we're talking

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Speaker 1: every single year that I've been here, which which basically

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Speaker 1: in many camps. Oh, oh, how can you not go

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Speaker 1: what happened in San Francisco yesterday? What happened in San Francisco?

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Speaker 1: One but two forty nine ers suffered season ending injuries.

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Do we need the two practices? Oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, here's another one, the rookie Immersion program.

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Speaker 1: got they got a little taste. They got a little

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Speaker 1: I thought it was good that they got a little

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Speaker 1: Lindsay's gonna tell us about that, Philip, Lindsay's gonna tell

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Speaker 1: when you look around the league, Johnny, remember what this

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Speaker 1: offseason is there was no offseason last year except for

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Speaker 1: the Zoom meetings. This year, the union was encouraging players

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Speaker 1: their players. People are gonna be all hot and bothered,

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Speaker 1: not everybody if they see some mini camp practices next week.

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Speaker 1: But the fact is the Texans, and we don't have

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Speaker 1: the stats as far as offseason program participation, but the

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Speaker 1: And they do like the work they got done. And again,

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Speaker 1: the carrot was out there that you could miss mini

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Speaker 1: let's see what happens in training camp next Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So I sort of lost my mind a little bit

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Speaker 1: well it was gonna this a missed opportunity. This team

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Speaker 1: and I have seen it. We've gotten more looks than

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Speaker 1: But the Texans did very well overall, and they'll take

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Speaker 1: All right, piece of news came down today. I was

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Speaker 1: an end today. And it doesn't mean it's the end

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Speaker 1: you know what, we gotta move on. Look at Philip Lindsay,

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Speaker 1: who were about to hear from, you know, Denver. Last

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Speaker 1: with Philip, no doubt, and we are going to hear

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Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay joining us on Texans Radio right now, Phillips,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel the ota part of this season went.

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Speaker 1: Your introduction to Houston. Everything from in the building to

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Speaker 1: the practice field, everything went smooth. I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: this is my first time ever having to leave state. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I played high school in Colorado, I went to University

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Speaker 1: I was comfortable. So coming here was out out of

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna win. And I think this year they've

428
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Speaker 1: done a really good job of uh this. I want

429
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Speaker 1: to say maybe my rookie year, we also had the

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Speaker 1: blocking system the same and it was a lot. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's simpler for for for everybody to understand who they

432
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Speaker 1: got to where to the point where you just got

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Speaker 1: to do your job to the best of your ability

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Speaker 1: instead of always like I got him him and maybe him. Well,

435
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Speaker 1: now you're you're you're thinking, and now you're hoping that

436
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Speaker 1: you're in the right spot here. We're gonna be able

437
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Speaker 1: to just be where we need to be boom point

438
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Speaker 1: A to point B. Get the block secured, you know,

439
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Speaker 1: and that's gonna help me the other running backs out

440
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 1: so much more to protect Tyrod uh this season, you know,

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Speaker 1: And that's what it's about. It's about keeping them clean.

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Speaker 1: They ain't got to be the prettiest block. I can't

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Speaker 1: tell you I'm gonna see here, but as long as

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Speaker 1: the quarterback doesn't get touched that I've done my job,

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Speaker 1: you know, the catching catching wise, Uh, you know, I

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Speaker 1: feel feel good. This is the first year I feel

447
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Speaker 1: like a team works on the screens, a team works

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Speaker 1: on just like passing in general. You know. I think that,

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Speaker 1: uh with then when we didn't do enough catching and

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Speaker 1: you know, and it showed throughout the throughout the time,

451
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Speaker 1: just because you're not comfortable and you get that opportunity

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Speaker 1: to finally get one, and you're so excited to finally

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Speaker 1: get one that you're like, oh, I can't drop this,

454
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Speaker 1: I can't drop this. But here you're getting this so much.

455
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Speaker 1: I mean, every every individual we catch all the time,

456
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Speaker 1: and you just get more comfortable with And that's what

457
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Speaker 1: it's about. It's about comfortable. It's about being confident, you know.

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Speaker 1: And for me, I'm ready to show, you know, for

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Speaker 1: some reason, I got that statement that I can't catch,

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Speaker 1: you know. And it's funny because it's there's a lot

461
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Speaker 1: to it. You know, there's a lot to it that

462
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Speaker 1: goes on with you, the quarterback, the route like it's

463
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Speaker 1: it's a lot to it. And for me, it's it's

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Speaker 1: about going out here and and and being all around

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Speaker 1: running back, and I think I'm gonna have a great

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Speaker 1: opportunity to showcase that, uh in this offense here, Philip

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Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, and I think we all know you

468
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Speaker 1: played high school, but you play your entire life in Colorado. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And every time Mark and I go to Colorado, we

470
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Speaker 1: wake up in the morning of a game we can't

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Speaker 1: breathe because the altitude is such a monster. Then you

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Speaker 1: come here and you're getting a little bit of the

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Speaker 1: humidity that we live in here. So I think I

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Speaker 1: know the answer this because you spend a life and

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Speaker 1: you spent a few months. Yeah, but which one is

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Speaker 1: worse running into all that altitude or in this humidity. No,

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Speaker 1: it's it's honestly the humidity. Like like I will say,

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Speaker 1: like I'll just I've been like you said, it's nothing

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Speaker 1: new to me. I didn't even think about the altitude

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Speaker 1: because I lived here my whole life. Yeah, but the humidity,

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Speaker 1: I've never been somewhere where and it's not even hot yet.

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Speaker 1: And I've never been somewhere where you just walk outside

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Speaker 1: and you sweat and you're in it's so hot that

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Speaker 1: you can like pick up the like you can just

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Speaker 1: pick the air up and eat it. That's how it

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Speaker 1: feels like. It's just and so for me it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is different, you know, and you got to be

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Speaker 1: able to hydrate and stuff. Seeing Colorado is dry. Now

489
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Speaker 1: it get hot in calad get hot, but it's drying, y'all.

490
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Speaker 1: You have to worry about is you're breathing and stuff

491
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Speaker 1: like that. You get that down here. You gotta worry

492
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Speaker 1: about the heat. You know. You still gotta get condition.

493
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you're in Colorado or Houston. Condition

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Speaker 1: is conditioning. So it's it's different. It really is different,

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Speaker 1: you know. But um I could see the pros and

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Speaker 1: cons on both sides. Phillip, thanks so much for the time.

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Speaker 1: We look forward to seeing you around the building and

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Speaker 1: at training camp. Thanks all right, man, I'm excited man,

499
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Speaker 1: you guys, thank you for your opportunities. I had to

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Speaker 1: pitch myself at certain points in that interview to make

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Speaker 1: sure like I'm talking to Philip Lindsay, and then he

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Speaker 1: asked my opinion. That was really really cool. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I've ever better player asked that before, but

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Speaker 1: I was glad to share, for sure, And I'm also

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Speaker 1: glad to see James Camping here old line coach for

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Speaker 1: your Houston, Texas Drew Dorry Knight didn't in the lab

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Speaker 1: about James and the offensive line. We'll have for you

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Speaker 1: Texas All Access from the Honday Texans Radio Studio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, John Harris, and it is time for in

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Speaker 1: the lab, Drew Dorry and I sat down and talks

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Speaker 1: about the offensive line and offensive line coach James Camping. Hey, friends,

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Speaker 1: Drew Doherty and John Harris for a little in the

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Speaker 1: lab and man, John, everything we just heard about over

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Speaker 1: the last two hours, and we're taping this on Tuesday

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Speaker 1: morning around eleven thirty. But over the last two hours, boy,

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Speaker 1: we've got enough to enough content to give us about

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Speaker 1: a month's worth of work. And we're going to touch

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Speaker 1: on just fingernail of what we just heard from the

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Speaker 1: assistant coaches. Just about all of them spoke offense, defense,

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Speaker 1: and special teams and heard some nuggets of some pretty

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Speaker 1: good stuff. It's fun to hear from those guys, and

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Speaker 1: many of them were new faces. Some of them are

535
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Speaker 1: faces that are familiar. But one who is new and

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Speaker 1: one who has a pretty high level of respect both

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Speaker 1: in the building outside the building around the league is

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Speaker 1: offensive line coach James Campin. On a personal note, before

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Speaker 1: we get into the offensive line chatter that you and

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Speaker 1: I are going to discuss, he is a fun guy

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Speaker 1: to chit chat with because he's buddies with a lot

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Speaker 1: of wrestlers. During his time in Green Bay as a

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Speaker 1: player back in the nineties, he came across a lot

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Speaker 1: of those guys when they would come through and wrestle,

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Speaker 1: and so he's got story after story after story about

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Speaker 1: about various wrestlers around the WWF. It's now the WWE,

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Speaker 1: But I grew up at the w WF. You did too.

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Speaker 1: And he even cut a promo and I put it

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Speaker 1: in his you know, like fourteen things know about James Campon.

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Speaker 1: He cut a promo about Yokozuna way back in the day.

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Speaker 1: But James Campon is a fascinating guy to talk with,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be fascinating to see what he does

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Speaker 1: in reshaping, you know, helping out this offensive line, because

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Speaker 1: you know, it was good enough to help this offense

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00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson explode in the passing game last year,

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Speaker 1: but it struggled at times early in the run game.

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Speaker 1: And that's been the case really over the last six years.

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Speaker 1: And I think, I think what they're gonna do up front,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna go a long way towards the success of

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Speaker 1: this football team. And I think it's I actually am

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Speaker 1: very optimistic about this offensive line because some of the

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Speaker 1: parts they brought in and because of this coach in Camping.

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Speaker 1: What about you, man, what do you think? I know?

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Speaker 1: You're you're You're a guy who has a Green Bay,

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin background, which he does as well. You know about

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Speaker 1: and value the trenches. What do you think? Well, first

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Speaker 1: of all, general question, I know, but yeah, we Mark

568
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Speaker 1: and I tried to get him to give us some

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Speaker 1: Brett Farve stories and he started laughing and stopped and said,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many of them I can share.

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Speaker 1: So I thought, who We had a chuckle at that,

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Speaker 1: but he after, you know, there's been so much talk

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Speaker 1: about about Camping and when you know, when the offensive

574
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Speaker 1: line coaching job was available, and like, okay, this is

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Speaker 1: a massive hire. I mean I would see people, are

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Speaker 1: you know who's it gonna be? Who's it gonna be?

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I don't know. And then I

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Speaker 1: hear it's gonna be James Camping. I'm like, WHOA, really, wow,

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Speaker 1: this is really good. But to that point had not

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Speaker 1: seen him speak or hawk or anything. At that point,

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Speaker 1: I just had seen the results up in Green Bay

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Speaker 1: in particular, where he had had a lot of success

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Speaker 1: with that offensive lineup there with a lot of the

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Speaker 1: players up there, so I knew he came highly respected.

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Speaker 1: But giving a chance to sit down with him and

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Speaker 1: interview and one on one and you really get a

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Speaker 1: feel for why he had that success. Really I got

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Speaker 1: done with an interview and I said to Mark, Wow,

589
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: that was really good. And not to compare to other

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Speaker 1: offensive line coaches that have been here, John Benton and

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Speaker 1: you know, Mike Devlin, etc. I just really enjoyed talking

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Speaker 1: not just football but everything with James Camping. I mean,

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00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: his answers were thought out, but yet he gave you

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Speaker 1: something and it was really fun conversation. I did not

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Speaker 1: know about the wrestling aspect, and I really wish I

596
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: had because I would have hit him with that. But

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Speaker 1: as a player in Green Bay, as a coaching bay,

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Speaker 1: he had been with the Browns and the Chargers, and

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00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: so he was just as enjoyable as as any coach

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Speaker 1: that we've had an opportunity to catch up with. And

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Speaker 1: it was when we got done, it was as if, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I can understand what the hype is about if you

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Speaker 1: want to, if you want to say it that way,

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Speaker 1: just how much he like. I could see why players

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Speaker 1: like playing for him. I could see why his approach

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Speaker 1: is successful for players, in particular, players that maybe we're

607
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Speaker 1: not drafted that high, like David bat Yard, you know,

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Speaker 1: mid round, David box Yard, t J. Lang. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean he's been phenomenal. He's the highest paid. He's the

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Speaker 1: highest paid guy in the league for a reason, and

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Speaker 1: a big reason of that was James Camping. And when

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Speaker 1: I asked him about that, you know, he said, he said, Look,

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Speaker 1: great players, um or great coaches are a result of

614
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Speaker 1: great players and those guys. I mean, he just did

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Speaker 1: what what every offensive line coach would do and pottered

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Speaker 1: off on the players. And I just really enjoy getting

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Speaker 1: to talk to him. But the one other thing that

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Speaker 1: stood out to me, and it sounds kind of odd,

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Speaker 1: and I'll try to make sure that I explain it

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Speaker 1: properly because I think people will here and go, We'll

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Speaker 1: wait a second. Everybody talks about the offensive line being

622
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: five fingers as a fist and working together and all that.

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Speaker 1: But one of the things that I got out of

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Speaker 1: our conversation was there's an individuality to learning particular positions, techniques, etc.

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Speaker 1: And the understanding as an offensive line coach that there

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Speaker 1: are going to be some guys that can do certain techniques.

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Speaker 1: There are going to be some guys that just aren't.

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Speaker 1: They're going to be some guys that have have the

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Speaker 1: potential of learning a particular technique and they can work

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Speaker 1: on it, but there are going to be things in

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Speaker 1: which some guys don't look at that way, like it's

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00:31:54,240 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: individualized learning amongst a team or unit set. And I

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00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: just thought, man, that's a really interesting approach because I've

634
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Speaker 1: been a long time proponent of that, and that was

635
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Speaker 1: always my way when I was when I was teaching.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes in coaching, I didn't always get that way. It

637
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: was like, no, we're doing this particular technique. But when

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Speaker 1: I started, when I had done it for a while

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Speaker 1: and I was more confident in myself and I could

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00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: see different things with different people. I thought about that,

641
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, different techniques that I would want different players

642
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: to use because I knew they could. I knew they

643
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: could learn it, and I knew it could help them,

644
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: but I knew other guys weren't going to be able to.

645
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: But I always just think about this and teaching, and

646
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: teaching in particular, when you sit down with somebody and

647
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: you teach them math, you don't know. I used to

648
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: say to them, I don't know what your background is.

649
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: I have no idea what your background is. I'm going

650
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: to give you what I think is the best way

651
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: to learn this. But if you don't see it. We're

652
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: gonna try something else, and we're gonna get to that

653
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: best way for you to learn it. And that kept

654
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: kind of reverberating in my mind, and I was ruminating

655
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: on that as I listened to him talk that there

656
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Speaker 1: is an individualization to a particular player playing in the NFL,

657
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: yet that has to all work within the group, and

658
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: in particular his group, the one that's supposed to be

659
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: you know, five fingers as a fist and all that

660
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I was just really impressed with that

661
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Speaker 1: thought process because there are a lot of coaches NFL,

662
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: high school, college, Nope, you do it this way, you

663
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: do this kind of set, you do this kind of kickstep,

664
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Speaker 1: this is how you do it, as opposed to you

665
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: know what, let's try this. Does this work? Hey, maybe

666
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: try this technique against Joey Bosa. Maybe try this technique

667
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: against some speed guys. It just felt like there was

668
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more in the There was a little

669
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: bit more there that I think players will be able

670
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: to get from on the offensive line, and I hope,

671
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: I hope it translates into the offensive line getting better

672
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: and better and better, and that we're talking about an

673
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: offensive line that can go take over a game when

674
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: it needs to, and not just by sheer force, but

675
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: utilizing technique, utilizing the coaching that they've learned, and putting

676
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: that all to work to come up with a much

677
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: better run game and good pass protection for whever the

678
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: quarterback is going to be. I think those things will happen.

679
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: And yes, you've got to have talent, there's no question.

680
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: But I think there is talent on this offensive line. Now,

681
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: the question, to me, Drew becomes, how does that talent

682
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: fit together? Five guys? Where does it fit? Who fits where?

683
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: And that's our training camp to me, is going to

684
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: be unbelievably exciting and fun to watch. I think really

685
00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: the only luck you can say is Larry Tongue Soldi

686
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: your left tackle. I think you're right. I mean, I

687
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: don't know that we've heard from Justin britt He's the center.

688
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: He spoke, He's the first offensive lineman that really spoke

689
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: since OTAs began. I think that's it can be a

690
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: somewhat telling sign, But I don't know that he's totally

691
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: solidified things and that's it, and you carve it in

692
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: stone and bring it down from the mountain that that

693
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: he's the center. But you know, I think this is

694
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: going to be fascinating. And watch from you know, everything

695
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: to the right of Tunsil yea four spots that are

696
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: not wide open, but open, And I'm fascinated to see

697
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: how that shakes out, when that shakes out, and how

698
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: solidified that becomes. Once we get to week one, do

699
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: you see shuffling like we did in twenty eighteen or

700
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: should be twenty nineteen when they wound up winning ten games,

701
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: or does it remain the same throughout health provided and

702
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: you've got some some some stability there. I think once

703
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: you get to a group, you feel good about and

704
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: that was the thing in twenty nineteen. I remember going

705
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: out to LA and you and I were standing next

706
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: to each other, and I remember you saying sharp Ing's in, Titus'

707
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 1: is in, And then I'm like, WHOA, Okay, well that's

708
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: the line we assumed that they would get to at

709
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: some point. Maybe I thought Sharping was maybe a few

710
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: weeks early, but I was like, Okay, this is the

711
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: line they've wanted to get to. All right, let's let

712
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: this line go together. And it ended up playing pretty

713
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: well together. And it did that for about probably six

714
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: seven games, and then Titus got banged up and then

715
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: he had to step out of the lineup. But they

716
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: got to that lineup within three weeks, even though they

717
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: had bounced some guys around. Titus had played week two

718
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: at guard. Then he ends up moving out to tackle

719
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: the right tackle, and now you go, Okay, we're sort

720
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: of solidified here. I think as much as you can

721
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: avoid the movement of tackle to guard, guard to tackle

722
00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: within within reason, you might have to because you may

723
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: have a player that just doesn't get it done. You

724
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: might have a player that gets hurt. You might have

725
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: to do some of that. And I think that's where

726
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: the versatility of this group comes in, that you have

727
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: guys that have played different spots. But I think once

728
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: you get solidified with a line and you feel good

729
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: about it, that's how they'll go about business going forward.

730
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: I have said I like the depth on this line.

731
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Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of guys that are

732
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: a lot of starts. I think it is going to

733
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: be coached very well, and I'm excited for that. And

734
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: I am absolutely one thousand percent with you, Drew. I

735
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: without question feel like the only spot totally and completely

736
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: solidified is Larry mads. Now, if you ask me, how

737
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: many guys do you think are absolute lock starters on

738
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: the offensive line, I would say two. I just don't

739
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: know exactly how they'll go about fitting those four other spots.

740
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: But I think, Larry, I mean Titus will be starters.

741
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: I would go to Vegas and put money on that

742
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: they would be starters to lock that in. I just

743
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: don't know if they'll be starters. We know I LT

744
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: will be at LELT. You know that lts LT. Yeah.

745
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: Other than that, this Titus play guard as he play tackle.

746
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: I know he'd like to play tackle. But you've got

747
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon. You just got a lot of things that

748
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: I got to shake itself out. And I'm really curious

749
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: to see how that's gonna happen. Mark my words too.

750
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a what reaction from at least one

751
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: of these guys who winds up starting And I'm not

752
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: saying he's coming out of left field. I'm saying he's

753
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: coming out of the upper deck and he's gonna surprise

754
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: a lot of folks when he died. I don't know who,

755
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: but I know I have my ideas. But there's gonna

756
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: be one unconventional guy that's putting in a lot of

757
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: time once the games get going, So just keep that

758
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: under your hat. Well, I mean, Brandon Cooks probably can't

759
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: play guard. He's gonna have to play center. So well,

760
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: now you're coming from the parking lot with that, I'm saying,

761
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I got you, I got you. I'm stuck

762
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: with us. You know, ten fifteen minutes into this podcast,

763
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: you you've been rewarded with that, so it should be fun. Listen, John,

764
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: It's always good talking with you. I'll see you very soon.

765
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: Hopefully you're down in the dungeon. I'm up in the

766
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: office and it's gonna be We got back in the

767
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: offices this week. Kind of good as a company, all

768
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: the business, business ops folks and all that. So it's

769
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: been good to see a lot of people I haven't

770
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: seen since, you know, before the Pigeonic started. So it's

771
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: been amazing. Yeah, it has been fun that. It certainly

772
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: has been. All right, we'll go roun league quickly when

773
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Speaker 1: we get back. Right here, a Texas All Access. Right here,

774
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Speaker 1: a Texas All Access fire Tech. Welcome back to this

775
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: final segment of Texans All Access on this Wednesday, evening

776
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: from Monday Texans Radio Studio. A short one, so we

777
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: are gonna buzz the tower like Maverick and Iceman and

778
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: then hit a quickie. A few things that happened during

779
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: the day over the last couple of days, some a

780
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: culmination of a career, if you will start there. Because

781
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:08,479
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos are about to induct Peyton Manning into

782
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: the Broncos Ring of Honor, which on the surface, it's coming,

783
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: like m I guess, okay. Twenty twelve team they won

784
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: the AFC West, lost in the Division around playoff. Twenty

785
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: thirteen they went to the Super Bowl. Peyton set all

786
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: kinds of records in that season. Twenty fourteen they got

787
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: ousted by the Colts. Twenty fifteen they went and won

788
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. So and his four years there was

789
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 1: pretty impressive, to say the least. So yeah, I guess

790
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: it makes sense Peyton Manning to go into the Broncos

791
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 1: Ring of Honor. Now a quarterback that is still playing,

792
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: I think he's older. Peyton Manning's all right, maybe about

793
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: the Sam they're close, They're close. Tom Brady his injury

794
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty of his knee was much worse than

795
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: any of us knew. And I don't know if the

796
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: Bucks we'll get in trouble for that. I don't remember

797
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: what was on the injury report or not. But Brady

798
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: has been He's been in a little bit. Didn't do

799
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: a whole lot during the off season. I think he

800
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: had a couple of practices where he was there, But

801
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: it was a pretty big issue apparently, and it was

802
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: a little bit more extensive than people thought. Now he

803
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: does say that he thinks he'll be able to do

804
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: some different things, that his knee is getting close to

805
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, that he'll be ready to go, But

806
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: he said it was an injury that he had been

807
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: dealing with since last April and May of twenty twenty,

808
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: played through the season with it and obviously played pretty

809
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: darn well. That's scary to think about. Speaking of injuries,

810
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley is gonna miss the next week and some

811
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: change dealing with a foot injury that he is going

812
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: to have a procedure on. It's being characterized as a

813
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: little clean up and if you're a Falcons fan, you're going,

814
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: oh my god, we traded Julio and now Calvin's gonna

815
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: have foot surgery. Well, just satiate yourself Falcons fans with

816
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: the fact that you do have Kyle Pits And it

817
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: does look like Ridley is going to be ready to

818
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: go for training camp, so it might be a little

819
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: clean up. We'll miss a little bit of time, but

820
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: not gonna miss any training camp times. So whatever's left

821
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: the offseason for the Falcons, Calvin Ridley will miss, but

822
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: he will be back for training camp. And if you

823
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: have Calvin Ridley as a dynasty fantasy owner, it's okay.

824
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: Everything's going to go well. The Cowboys signed Mike and

825
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: Parsons today four year guaranteed deal as first rounders sign

826
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: in the fifth option year. As we know, first round

827
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: rookies get so that deal done for the Dallas Cowboys

828
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: and that's gonna do it. A big thanks to Mark

829
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: the Philip Lindsay from a Managrew Doherty to all of

830
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: you for listening. We'll see you tomorrow and it's always

831
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Speaker 1: go Texas.