Speaker 1: To teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camera Judge. Hi, guys,
Speaker 1: welcome to Twart's flashback with myself, Teddy Mellencamp.
Speaker 2: And Tamra Judge taking it way back, way way back
Speaker 2: to where people are unrecognizable.
Speaker 1: Well, and also behaviors are unrecognizable because nobody, which I've
Speaker 1: realized now with Orange County and Beverly Hills, when we
Speaker 1: go back this far of time, people aren't self producing
Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah, live in their lives.
Speaker 2: Very little glam guy tops and true religions were in
Speaker 2: style back then.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is how they look in their confessionals,
Speaker 1: the way I look right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Me, and well, actually.
Speaker 1: You look your hair has less frids than a lot
Speaker 1: of the confessionals that I saw in this episode.
Speaker 2: It's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're just gonna get right into it. This
Speaker 1: is the third episode and the fourth episode of season
Speaker 1: one of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. This episode is
Speaker 1: called Plenty of Baggage. The air date October twenty eighth,
Speaker 1: twenty ten. I love that we have a synopsis. A
Speaker 1: synopsis of this episode. Adrian invites the women and their
Speaker 1: partners to a jay Z concert at her Las Vegas casino. Again.
Speaker 2: Again, they go to Vegas again two weeks in a row.
Speaker 1: Well, it starts off with Camille playing tennis with her
Speaker 1: friend Nick. When Kelsey is gone, Camille likes to hang
Speaker 1: out with her guy friends. She and Nick are flirty,
Speaker 1: but it is all friendly and Kelsey is fine with him.
Speaker 2: Miss Kelsey doesn't want her.
Speaker 1: But do you believe this was just harmless flirtato. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think that she was into Kelsey either.
Speaker 1: Well, I also wonder if there was maybe more than
Speaker 1: tennis being played at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of balls played with and they
Speaker 2: weren't the tennis type.
Speaker 1: They weren't yellow. I mean, would your.
Speaker 2: Husband be okay with you flirting and talking with somebody
Speaker 2: like that young hot guy?
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even imagine flirting and talking like
Speaker 1: that with somebody. We just in general, like I just
Speaker 1: don't even put it on TV, put it on TV
Speaker 1: in my house that I share with my husband and
Speaker 1: my kids. But also like I'm such a bad flirt
Speaker 1: I can't even if.
Speaker 2: I can imagine flirting, I can't even imagine it.
Speaker 1: I'm more of like I will just nag somebody. I
Speaker 1: think I.
Speaker 2: Will say, after watching these next two episodes, even though
Speaker 2: the Camille is a polarizing housewife, I could see why
Speaker 2: she was most hated.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 2: It's really I mean, she gives Heather to grow a
Speaker 2: run for her money with the bragging and.
Speaker 1: She and the voice like Heather's voice, doesn't. I mean, granted,
Speaker 1: I have a guys, anytime I say something that's somewhat oh.
Speaker 2: You're what about?
Speaker 1: I got to get rest. And I understand that my
Speaker 1: voice is one of the world's worst voices. So I
Speaker 1: know voices.
Speaker 2: Those are singer voices. Anybody that can sing like you
Speaker 2: can have those kind of rough voices.
Speaker 1: I love that you said as if I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: on tour right now with Tailor her opening act.
Speaker 2: Teddy Millingham on tour.
Speaker 1: What's just a little song to twat? Okay? So, either way,
Speaker 1: do we think Kelsey's actually good friends with Nick? No?
Speaker 2: Okay, I just want to I don't think Kelsey care
Speaker 2: is either.
Speaker 1: Then Lisa invites the group to Villa Blanca, May Villa Blanca,
Speaker 1: rest in peace.
Speaker 2: And pomp Right was those the two?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean they had a long run. I didn't realize
Speaker 2: they were open that long? Was that ten to twelve
Speaker 2: years each?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you have to remember, like we haven't gotten
Speaker 1: to it yet obviously, But Sheena worked at Villa Blanca
Speaker 1: and that's how that whole entire crossover and vander prop
Speaker 1: Rules started because once Brandy came on Beverly Hills, then
Speaker 1: Lisa brought Sheena to serve at one of their events
Speaker 1: and the baby was born. And the baby was born
Speaker 1: because there was a lot of drama involving Eddie Cibrian,
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: But was that on early days of vander Pump the.
Speaker 1: Eddie and I don't. I don't think Eddie was ever
Speaker 1: on either.
Speaker 2: Of it, but there was shatter about it.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, well, at first the drama started on Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills and then that's how the spin off was formed.
Speaker 1: But either way that Kim shared that she has a
Speaker 1: date tonight and Kyle says she is better off choosing
Speaker 1: Kim's new husband.
Speaker 2: Every time she opens her mouth, she's like, mahack. I mean,
Speaker 2: I kind of miss old Kyle that was caddy and
Speaker 2: shady because she's not really like that anymore. I feel
Speaker 2: like she has softened over the years.
Speaker 1: God forbid, somebody evolve.
Speaker 2: I know you don't look it up for housewives. I
Speaker 2: like my housewives, Caddy and Shady.
Speaker 1: Camille says it's going to be difficult to be a
Speaker 1: single mom. While Kelsey is away, Kyle sarcastically says, it
Speaker 1: must be so hard with four nanny it's so.
Speaker 2: Hard, so hard, I couldn't even imagine. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's this episode of the next month, but when
Speaker 2: she's sitting there planning her Hawaii trip and she's like
Speaker 2: my house manager, and I'm like, I wanted to punch
Speaker 2: my screen.
Speaker 1: Well, I also wanted to punch myself because I catch
Speaker 1: myself sometimes acting as if things are really difficult that
Speaker 1: aren't difficult. Like I'll be like, oh, it's not in
Speaker 1: my calendar. I didn't see it. And then Katie, who
Speaker 1: works for me, is like, Teddy, you're looking at the
Speaker 1: wrong day.
Speaker 2: Like you got a rough life there, Teddy, you really do.
Speaker 1: Like I put it in your calendar. You're looking at
Speaker 1: next Tuesday. You're on this current Dude.
Speaker 2: You're on the wrong month.
Speaker 1: Teddy, Like, get it together. I know you want to
Speaker 1: be a be outre right now, and think that I
Speaker 1: forgot something but I didn't.
Speaker 2: Well, when you start talking about your house managers, when
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to call you out.
Speaker 1: No, I wish I had a house manager though, because
Speaker 1: Edwin is so such a lunatic when it comes to
Speaker 1: house maintenance.
Speaker 2: I know every time there there's somebody painting something, like.
Speaker 1: If there's one scuff he noticed that someone came up
Speaker 1: with a suitcase and it like hit the edge. I
Speaker 1: would too, you know what, guys, just let me live,
Speaker 1: let me bomb in staircases. The most interesting part is
Speaker 1: how the times have changed, Like could you imagine Camille
Speaker 1: getting away with announcing she has a kid with flu
Speaker 1: at home?
Speaker 2: Like hope you would get bashed? And how dare you
Speaker 2: be out when your child has flu? Between that and
Speaker 2: the amount of air kissing that goes on in the
Speaker 2: show I want to do side to side, it's like, oh.
Speaker 1: Well, I do think somebody should let a person know
Speaker 1: prior to going in for like a one kiss, if
Speaker 1: it's going to be one or two. Because the amount
Speaker 1: of times I've had awkward like no I knowing that
Speaker 1: I do that for a second.
Speaker 2: I did that with a male friend that is actually
Speaker 2: from South Africa. So he went to and I guess
Speaker 2: it's very normal to kiss on both sides. So he
Speaker 2: kissed on one side and then he went to kiss
Speaker 2: on this side, and I moved and he kiss me.
Speaker 1: On the lips.
Speaker 2: So it's a cultural thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, I understand what I need, But the problem.
Speaker 2: Is I want to kissing me at all.
Speaker 1: How about that? But once one person does it, then
Speaker 1: everybody feels the need to go in for two. Like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't assume that Taylor was going to come in
Speaker 1: for two.
Speaker 2: I got a lot to say about Taylor in this episode.
Speaker 1: Oh me too, me too.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. But Paul bugging Adrian constantly. Everything he
Speaker 2: does annoys her. I could relate. It was like me
Speaker 2: with my ex husband. He would breathe and I'd be annoyed.
Speaker 2: But she's like, oh the snakers, that makes much noise.
Speaker 1: I love that she got on like her entercolm or whatever,
Speaker 1: and she's.
Speaker 2: Like pawn po. It's so it's so weird to see
Speaker 2: Paul in that role like he was, although I mean,
Speaker 2: he's a successful plastic surgeon, but she's so wealthy that
Speaker 2: he was like her little bitch.
Speaker 1: Well he just like well, also he dressed like Cruise,
Speaker 1: Like every time he's like in this little boy outfit,
Speaker 1: like just going to his mom, Like it's as if
Speaker 1: I've been yelling at Cruise for not doing his homework,
Speaker 1: reading and going on YouTube, and I'm like, uh, Like
Speaker 1: he walks and he's like, yeah, Mom, sorry, I didn't
Speaker 1: hear you or anything of that nature.
Speaker 2: Paul was very, very, very sad soul back then, really.
Speaker 1: But I had to die.
Speaker 2: Lisa had some of the best confessionals, I think. Would
Speaker 2: she say I heard from Taylor about Russell, that he's
Speaker 2: a big, sexy cowboy, and then in walks Russell.
Speaker 1: But even when Kyle asks how Russell and Taylor met, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Russell jokes that his attorney called her eternity and
Speaker 1: wrote a prenup and blah blah blah, and then Taylor says,
Speaker 1: actually met in a restaurant waiting for a table. She
Speaker 1: saw him, and she knew she was going to be
Speaker 1: with him, and then Russell avoided her like the plague
Speaker 1: and she had to chase him for months. So my
Speaker 1: question is, did she see him in a restaurant and
Speaker 1: just know immediately he's rich and I want to be
Speaker 1: with him, or is this, Like, I don't suit, I
Speaker 1: don't how would one know?
Speaker 2: Maybe he pulled up in a Ferrari. I don't know.
Speaker 2: But Taylor packing for Russell, would you do you pack
Speaker 2: for Edwin?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You know, I don't. I used to.
Speaker 1: Pack everything, but now he pulls out the clothes. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to justify my behavior. But now he pulls out
Speaker 1: the clothes. But then I like zip things up and whatever,
Speaker 1: mainly because he's so fricking slow that I can't take it.
Speaker 1: Like I pack a week in advance, he packs the
Speaker 1: morning of when we're.
Speaker 2: Like, he packs ten nights before we leave. It drives
Speaker 2: me crazy.
Speaker 1: But then the problem is Edwin's always right because he'll
Speaker 1: be like, we're not gonna need as much things as
Speaker 1: you packed, Like I just need a couple of bathing
Speaker 1: suits into this and that. And then I ended up
Speaker 1: with a suitcase half full of stuff I never wore,
Speaker 1: and he's worn the same thing the whole time.
Speaker 2: But I'm jealous, Like that's like in Big Bear, I
Speaker 2: have a whole walk in closet filled with clothes, just
Speaker 2: clothes it I don't normally wear sweats stuff like that.
Speaker 2: I just took him all over there, Edie has like
Speaker 2: three hanging things. That's it, and like and I'm like,
Speaker 2: he's like dinner time, I didn't have anything to wear.
Speaker 2: I go because you need a pack. You got to
Speaker 2: bring stuff and just leave it here.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I never have anything in Orange County either,
Speaker 1: because I don't like to leave it there. But then
Speaker 1: my next question is how long have to in Europe?
Speaker 1: Like do we know this answer? How long Tailor and
Speaker 1: Russell have been together prior? I don't. I do not
Speaker 1: know because the daughter's turning six four four four, right,
Speaker 1: that was a four year old's birthday party.
Speaker 2: Yes, with the diamonds and all that, that was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: They had to have been together maybe five or six
Speaker 2: years at that point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, who knows. But then you know they
Speaker 1: go to the club in Vegas. Paul says he can
Speaker 1: see why Kelsey married Camille after seeing her dancing and
Speaker 1: jokingly sticks five dollars down her shirt. Okay, what would
Speaker 1: you have done if Eddie did that to one of
Speaker 1: your friends, not even friends?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Caspines, I'd kick him in the balls right there
Speaker 2: in front of everybody so everyone could see.
Speaker 1: Like that.
Speaker 2: First of all, it's like kind of cringey and yeah,
Speaker 2: totally disrespectful. You see Adrian just over there going really
Speaker 2: like you're so gross.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the way that Paul was acting, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, she's the guy that wears sweatpants to
Speaker 1: the strip club. Oh he's yeah, you know this rule, right,
Speaker 1: I just I learned it recently what men wear sweatpants
Speaker 1: to strip clubs because it's either dinger. Yeah, they're dinger,
Speaker 1: can feel things more than jeans. Oh my god, was
Speaker 1: still wearing well then he seemed like all like wooh.
Speaker 1: But I do think in that moment, Camille handled it correctly.
Speaker 1: She's like cheap like at that moment, I still was
Speaker 1: okay with the way Camille was hand but you.
Speaker 2: Can tell when Meal's around or they made it look
Speaker 2: like that that she wants all the guys attention. She
Speaker 2: interacts with the guys more than she does the girls.
Speaker 2: In these next two episodes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, she says, I can't remember if it was
Speaker 1: Kyle that said it or Camille said it first, but
Speaker 1: she's a guy's girl, not a girl. She said it.
Speaker 2: I think she said it. She likes guys better than girls.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that I think it might be reversed,
Speaker 1: so you just had to take whichever one was going
Speaker 1: to come like y at that point. But what about
Speaker 1: when Adrian goes, I'm not one to show off slash. Also, Adrian,
Speaker 1: hop on my private jet and come look at the
Speaker 1: hotel I own with a suite that has the basketball
Speaker 1: court in it. And then let's go dancing at my club.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Well then we get to the nightclub and the dancing,
Speaker 1: and we start to see Camille saying she doesn't drink.
Speaker 1: Then they go to the pool the next day.
Speaker 2: Is she drinking? Did do we notice if she drinks
Speaker 2: or not?
Speaker 1: Well? I have never been around, to my knowledge, Camille
Speaker 1: drunk or anything like that, and I can't I'm not
Speaker 1: sure I can say that about any other housewives.
Speaker 2: She does have a bang and body. Yeah, well she
Speaker 2: knows that she looks good in her bikini, and we
Speaker 2: saw her a few times. But let me ask you
Speaker 2: from one to ten, Yeah, it's rt uh, Camille's dancing
Speaker 2: and Taylor's dancing.
Speaker 1: This is Taylor. Honestly, Taylor, I wouldn't even want to dance.
Speaker 1: It was like us trying to do the same moves
Speaker 1: that Erica did. I bet at all on Blonde, the
Speaker 1: beat beat too too. Yeah, I don't really feel like
Speaker 1: we can call any of any of these things dancing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty bad, but it wasn't Wasn't Camille
Speaker 2: a dancer?
Speaker 1: Yes, Camille was a dancer. I think that's how like
Speaker 1: I think. I think that was the initial attraction. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I want you to show me your best
Speaker 1: dance move right now. I was gonna say, I was
Speaker 1: about to be like, that's it, That's all I got,
Speaker 1: even though you realize tonight I have to perform a
Speaker 1: choreographed dance with my family because the rules of this
Speaker 1: fantasy football league that Cruise and Edwin are in is
Speaker 1: if you lose from the year before, you have to
Speaker 1: come and dance in front of the twelve other families.
Speaker 1: And they lost this year, so it means that our
Speaker 1: entire family now has to be punished for them being losers.
Speaker 2: Did you hire a choreographer to teach you?
Speaker 1: I just hired Camille.
Speaker 2: You should that would be amazing.
Speaker 1: No, the last time I saw Camille was awkward enough.
Speaker 1: That was negative.
Speaker 2: Well, did you like the way that wrestle dance? Because
Speaker 2: corning to Taylor, he didn't even dance at her wedding,
Speaker 2: at their wedding, but yet he was dancing there.
Speaker 1: I didn't even notice. I really didn't even notice as much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I assume it was probably as good as our dancing
Speaker 1: just was. But then we get to the pool where
Speaker 1: the shocking turn of events. Russell isn't there because he's
Speaker 1: going to Phoenix. But then he comes back in Phoenix
Speaker 1: and he doesn't really seem like he's in Phoenix. Who knows.
Speaker 1: But Kyle says to LVP, we should push Camille in
Speaker 1: the pool, and LVP says, that's a great idea. As
Speaker 1: long as you do it. This may be our first
Speaker 1: glimpse into what's to come on the show. That line
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, LVP saying that's shady. Well no, but
Speaker 1: LVP saying, that's a great idea, as long as you're
Speaker 1: the one to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she didn't want to do it. She ain't getting
Speaker 2: her hands dirty.
Speaker 1: I don't think much has changed in that way, But.
Speaker 2: Nick's showing up in Vegas a one hundred percent. They
Speaker 2: were sleeping together in the amount of why I sell
Speaker 2: tribute heels that I saw on this episode, between Kyle
Speaker 2: packing them and Camille wearing them and somebody else wearing them.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I still have mine?
Speaker 1: Are they the ones that I always to you hate?
Speaker 1: You hate?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I never heard.
Speaker 2: I wore them one time because I had a broken foot, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't like the way
Speaker 1: that thickness looks. But everyone makes fun of my sandals
Speaker 1: that I wear all the time. But I'm sorry. Those
Speaker 1: shoes are worse.
Speaker 2: The tributes they're They're they're classic, they really are. But
Speaker 2: they're so comfortable. People have had them for like twenty years,
Speaker 2: like they've been around forever. They're so comfortable. I had
Speaker 2: to wear them in when I broke my toe. It's
Speaker 2: only heels I could wear on.
Speaker 1: Was happins live? But there is no way this is
Speaker 1: a surprise. No. But there was a lot of women
Speaker 1: doing their best to give their sexiest moves to the
Speaker 1: camera and it was a little off going for me
Speaker 1: to watch. But next, do you kiss anyone besides your
Speaker 1: husband or your kids on the lips? No?
Speaker 2: I try not to ever.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess like I tried not to.
Speaker 2: I try not to. I do have a friend that's
Speaker 2: a guy that likes to kiss on the lips eyes. No,
Speaker 2: he's married, everything European.
Speaker 1: Friend of ours, my friend too, my friend No, So
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yours being yours and eddies like okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: no we're not a couple.
Speaker 2: Oh no, Taylor said, did you see Taylor reference to
Speaker 2: you and what what happens?
Speaker 1: Like? I did not? What did she say?
Speaker 2: Well, evidently Andy brought up So do you feel like
Speaker 2: your camera, you know, she dressed up like me was
Speaker 2: as bad as Tamra said it was? Could you have
Speaker 2: done better? And She's like, yes, it was horrible. I
Speaker 2: should have brought Teddy with me. That's pretty funny that
Speaker 2: actually us in.
Speaker 1: Workout clothes and sweats would have been pretty on point. Yep.
Speaker 1: Taylor's bum that Russell made her leave the night early
Speaker 1: because then they went back up to the suite. Kyle says,
Speaker 1: she would be so upset if Maritio did that to her.
Speaker 1: Russell's acting like Taylor's father. If you didn't know what
Speaker 1: happens with Taylor and Russell later, would this have been
Speaker 1: a red flag for you? Yeah?
Speaker 2: He looked a bit controlling, And I know that because
Speaker 2: I was in a controlling relationship.
Speaker 1: Just the way like.
Speaker 2: She's like having fun, She's so even to this day,
Speaker 2: as you know, very seft spoken and just very okay okay,
Speaker 2: just goes with the flow. But like she said in
Speaker 2: her confessional, she didn't want to leave, Like they just
Speaker 2: got there. Why does she have to leave?
Speaker 1: But also there are situations where sometimes your significant other
Speaker 1: will know it's time for you to go or your.
Speaker 2: Plays for sure, if you were like super drunk or
Speaker 2: something like that, or you have to get up early
Speaker 2: in the morning. But you know one thing that really
Speaker 2: bugged me. Did you notice when Russell was playing pool
Speaker 2: with the guys? Tell me he was playing pool but
Speaker 2: listening to every word Taylor was saying across the room.
Speaker 1: So you're noticing all those things because you've had quite
Speaker 1: a controlling X Yep. Yeah, it's hard because as we're
Speaker 1: recapping this, you're seeing what a different type of show
Speaker 1: this was. Like Now everything is about like essentially everything's
Speaker 1: fluff compared to it.
Speaker 2: It's all polarized. It's all huge and over the top,
Speaker 2: and the it's not our clothes and the hair and
Speaker 2: the makeup and the trips we're going to take. Like
Speaker 2: is it the world has changed and that's really how
Speaker 2: people are living?
Speaker 1: Or is this just or is it the show has
Speaker 1: changed people.
Speaker 2: Well, the show definitely has changed people.
Speaker 1: But then Camille says Kyle asked her questions about Hawaii
Speaker 1: and she felt interrogated. Allegedly, Kyle said to her, why
Speaker 1: would anyone be interested in being with you without Kelsey there?
Speaker 1: Lisa thinks Camille may have misinterpreted it. Do you do
Speaker 1: you think Kyle was trying to say, why would cameras
Speaker 1: go with Camille alone to Hawaii?
Speaker 2: Probably?
Speaker 1: But did we even hear her say anything like this?
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't remember. First of all, what
Speaker 2: Camille said wasn't accurate and it was not on camera,
Speaker 2: but it just didn't make any sense, and I made
Speaker 2: Kamail just look petty, and even Kyle said, like, that's
Speaker 2: not what I said.
Speaker 1: That is not what I said. Yeah, she said, that's
Speaker 1: not what I said. And I I would assume other
Speaker 1: of the housewives at that point had wanted to go
Speaker 1: on trips alone and they were told no, And that's
Speaker 1: why if she said anything along those lines. But I
Speaker 1: don't think ever she would have said that. This is
Speaker 1: not her type to say, why would anybody hang out
Speaker 1: with you if your husband wasn't there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, asked Kamil being hyper sensitive because her marriage was
Speaker 2: on the rocks is what I believe.
Speaker 1: But being hyper sensitive, but she's like making out, kissing,
Speaker 1: doing all kinds of nonsense.
Speaker 2: This was way before they broke the fourth wall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, way before it, So I.
Speaker 2: Don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know either, But I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: the best thing that we got from this episode was
Speaker 1: Tailor and the cotton candy. And you continue to see
Speaker 1: the women not not really editing themselves. If anyone is
Speaker 1: editing themselves, I would say it's Adrian.
Speaker 2: She just looks so miserable being with Paul. She just
Speaker 2: does so miserable, Like why am I here with him?
Speaker 2: I could do so much better.
Speaker 1: And Paul's just not getting the hint. Are we gonna
Speaker 1: see that marriage break up on the show or is
Speaker 1: she gone already by then?
Speaker 2: I can't remember why. This is why we're we washed
Speaker 2: in Mellencamp.
Speaker 1: I know this is why this is a flashback we need.
Speaker 1: I never watched her the first time, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I do remember the stuff with Brandy going down, just
Speaker 1: because I've seen a million clips of that reunion that
Speaker 1: she wasn't at that Adrian wasn'n at. But I don't
Speaker 1: know if Heer and Paul were still together.
Speaker 2: Then I don't remember. I gotta say yeah that they
Speaker 2: do separate.
Speaker 1: All right, Well we'll see. Then we get into episode four.
Speaker 1: It's my party and I'll spend if I want to spend.
Speaker 2: They did.
Speaker 1: Yep. Taylor spends sixty thousand dollars on a Mad Hatter
Speaker 1: tea party to celebrate her daughter, Kennedy's fourth birthday, but
Speaker 1: her husband Russell gives Kennedy a puppy as a gift,
Speaker 1: even though that was contrary to Taylor's sols And.
Speaker 2: Did you see his face when he gave it to early? Well,
Speaker 2: here's a creepy.
Speaker 1: I have to take out of my knowledge that I
Speaker 1: know what's to come, and it's hard. I have to
Speaker 1: just watch it. Per the episode, watching per that episode.
Speaker 1: That was not a party for a four year.
Speaker 2: Old, No, And it's so funny when they have the dueling,
Speaker 2: dueling parties because you have Kyle doing everything herself, calling
Speaker 2: her sister like can you help me? And you know
Speaker 2: she doesn't have enough hands. And then you see Taylor
Speaker 2: like this elaborate photo.
Speaker 1: Shoot in the hat over there.
Speaker 2: I need chandeliers. And by the way, did you catch
Speaker 2: the Louis Vuitton trash cans?
Speaker 1: No? I didn't. Okay on point.
Speaker 2: Okay, waste management trash cans that go out to your
Speaker 2: curb every week. Yeah, hers was covered with black Louis
Speaker 2: Baton logos. Oh my god, I'm like, who gives up
Speaker 2: about your trash cans?
Speaker 1: Well, dur does have. I think it's a Louis Vauton
Speaker 1: or maybe it's Chanelle yoga ball that I saw in
Speaker 1: one of her pictures. I stop it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that too. I'm gonna get a sharpie
Speaker 2: and do that to my yoga ball.
Speaker 1: Right here on hot I'm just gonna put an LV.
Speaker 1: What gifts did you give to your kids when they
Speaker 1: turned for.
Speaker 2: I never had the big first birthday or second. I
Speaker 2: usually waited till they were three because they're more aware,
Speaker 2: and I would say the biggest party we would do
Speaker 2: would get a jumpy house, get some games, maybe like
Speaker 2: some vendors to come, but that's it. Like in the
Speaker 2: street in the back.
Speaker 1: What kind of gift like dove?
Speaker 2: You mean like a gift?
Speaker 1: Oh for yeah, Like I was sitting there thinking, given
Speaker 1: dove a diamond like she's maybe for a Barbie and
Speaker 1: she can name her Diamond.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, it's stop loses likely no, whatever, the
Speaker 2: hottest toy was whatever they wanted. I think it's like
Speaker 2: the most elaborate thing I got them is like an
Speaker 2: electric jeep or something they can ride in. But nothing,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like a Barbie car. Yeah, like a Marty
Speaker 2: Carr or something like that. Like, no, this is ridiculous,
Speaker 2: And I feel like it was totally done just to
Speaker 2: be like bragging rights on the show.
Speaker 1: But also the difference that we have to also remember,
Speaker 1: which now when you're on Housewives versus then now you
Speaker 1: can work like I have had a couple elaborate parties,
Speaker 1: and it's because I've worked with a party planner who's
Speaker 1: done a collaboration with me. In exchange for me posting
Speaker 1: or coming out on the show, she will give a
Speaker 1: percentage for free or for free or whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: For sure, season one of a show that doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: That did not happen at all, So this is clearly
Speaker 1: season three or four of Housewives.
Speaker 2: I did a birthday party for Spencer, I think he
Speaker 2: was like seven or eight, and it was a pirate
Speaker 2: theme and I literally we lived in an end of
Speaker 2: a cul de sac and I literally had a big,
Speaker 2: jumpy house with a water slide.
Speaker 1: That was it. Well, that's all they want to do.
Speaker 2: I mean you saw Kennedy's face. That's why I never
Speaker 2: really had giant birthday parce for my kids because they
Speaker 2: don't want to be there. They're like, oh God, like,
Speaker 2: leave me alone, mom, just let me go do my thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the Dove's second birthday, I had it
Speaker 1: at the house and a lot of people, and then
Speaker 1: this last her third, I was like, all right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go to one of those play places. I'm running
Speaker 1: it for two hours. You come from four to six
Speaker 1: pm and then you're out. Then.
Speaker 2: I also didn't have big birthdays every year like a
Speaker 2: lot of times. I just have families, family over. You know.
Speaker 2: I made a cake saying happy birthday, here's your presence.
Speaker 1: You don't need a bribe that you can make a
Speaker 1: cake camera. I don't need that kind of bro Okay.
Speaker 2: So I came home from Big Bear and Sophia made
Speaker 2: me this sign. It was a pick one of my
Speaker 2: gallery shot pictures from Housewives, and I'm straddling a Harley
Speaker 2: in my dress and she because she's really good at
Speaker 2: photoshop and says happy birthday, mom, And then she attempted
Speaker 2: to make me a cake and burnt it. So we
Speaker 2: came home. Oh she made a cake, and Eddie goes, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's in the trash. But she did honor us with
Speaker 2: her presence with going out to dinner last night, which
Speaker 2: is far and few between. She doesn't want to hang
Speaker 2: out with us, not much.
Speaker 1: She was the gift that I'm giving doing all the things. Well.
Speaker 1: Then we continue on to see Taylor prepping for the
Speaker 1: Mad Hatter theme party Kyle's daughter Porsche, which makes us
Speaker 1: once again realize how old we have.
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 1: I think Kyle's party with Porscha still had a lot
Speaker 1: going on, Like it still was Oh yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: but it was a party for an actual child.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't It wasn't cheap, and I love how
Speaker 2: they were. She's like, I don't really like alcoholic kids party,
Speaker 2: and then Taylor's like, can we have more champagne?
Speaker 1: She's like, fill the glasses. Is there any hard alcohol here? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And then you see the little kids like drinking out
Speaker 2: of champagne glasses. It looks like a champagne like I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, all I could think about was the
Speaker 1: fact that this four year old's birthday party costs more
Speaker 1: than a car.
Speaker 2: Like, but but wait a minute here, Dana Wilkie, Taylor's
Speaker 2: party planner was everything. But you could tell Dana was
Speaker 2: a little desperate to get on the show with her
Speaker 2: twenty five thousand dollars sunglasses.
Speaker 1: Why did I think that Dana was a lawyer?
Speaker 2: I don't know what she does. I know she's a
Speaker 2: podcaster now.
Speaker 1: But do you But I'm curious. Did she just play
Speaker 1: a party planner so that she could be there? Like
Speaker 1: was she actually a friend of Taylor's?
Speaker 2: I don't know, But when I saw her on TV,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, forgot about that face. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: I don't know what season she comes in. Is she
Speaker 2: like an actual housewife in the future.
Speaker 1: When she comes on next season? She's a friend of
Speaker 1: he's a friend of Okay, Yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 2: So is Kennedy's party more for Taylor or for Kennedy.
Speaker 1: For Taylor for tailor?
Speaker 2: I mean, visually it looked beautiful, but even Lisa vander Pump,
Speaker 2: who's probably got more money than God, was like, this
Speaker 2: is a little over the top.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Even Lisa Vanderpump paid Kyle a compliment on how
Speaker 1: the party was really great for her daughter, like that,
Speaker 1: that's what you want, I actually like listen. Granted, the
Speaker 1: only thing I probably would have shifted is I'm okay
Speaker 1: with a glass or to a champagne at a kid's party.
Speaker 1: I it's it's called coping for me. But I I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just I was confused by why there
Speaker 1: wasn't any real like hanging out with your own child
Speaker 1: at the party, or even like getting them comfortable with
Speaker 1: the friends. Like the it was mainly adults, Like do
Speaker 1: we even see kids other than when they got their
Speaker 1: take home diamonds?
Speaker 2: Little spurts like kids running and that's it.
Speaker 1: So, in Russell's defense, the happiest that she seemed the
Speaker 1: entire party was a puppy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but what kid isn't gonna be excited
Speaker 2: about a puppy? Hey, four year old, would you like
Speaker 2: a puppy or a diamond Barbie necklace.
Speaker 1: To match with your mom?
Speaker 2: Yes? No, I want a puppy.
Speaker 1: I want a puppy for mom to take care of,
Speaker 1: or one of Camille's four nannies then speaking of Camille, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you go ahead take it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, when Camille first meets Kelsey, he had
Speaker 2: just gotten out of rehab, and she dedicated her life
Speaker 2: to his sobriety. She says she lost her sense of
Speaker 2: self because she was taking care of Kelsey. Do you
Speaker 2: think it's selfish of Camille to think like that, like
Speaker 2: I married somebody that's freaking loaded. I had nothing, and
Speaker 2: oh my god, I had to take care of him
Speaker 2: when he had a drinking problem.
Speaker 1: Well, I think the key part of this sentence is
Speaker 1: he had gotten out of rehab when she first met him,
Speaker 1: so she knew already what she was getting herself into, right,
Speaker 1: So at that point, I mean, I always think like,
Speaker 1: and you know, we talk about it with Eddie and Edwin,
Speaker 1: like they're not big drinkers, no, And so if we're
Speaker 1: going to brunch or we're doing whatever, and like I
Speaker 1: have a glass of champagne or appera, all sprits or whatever,
Speaker 1: like he may give me like a little look like god, hell,
Speaker 1: but you're you know, this is.
Speaker 2: Us when we go when we go to a restaurant,
Speaker 2: like for the day that before my birthday or two
Speaker 2: days before my birthday, we went to Cardier, right, So
Speaker 2: we stopped South Coast Plosa, which we hardly ever go,
Speaker 2: and we went to a restaurant there and they're They're like,
Speaker 2: would you like anything to drink? And I'm like, you
Speaker 2: go first, and he's like, yeah, I think you might
Speaker 2: have a Moscow mule. I'm like, what what?
Speaker 1: I know? So, but it's different because neither one of
Speaker 1: us was ever in rehab, So right if I just
Speaker 1: think it changes the dynamic with with that conversation, but
Speaker 1: also if you are in a position where you're setting
Speaker 1: yourself up to take care of somebody, that's what you
Speaker 1: set up.
Speaker 2: Like I've let Edwin know, does he really need to
Speaker 2: be taken care of? He just went through rehab?
Speaker 1: I didn't. I think that she just made sure that
Speaker 1: everything was to hit liking with the.
Speaker 2: Constant bragging about what she does and who she's married to,
Speaker 2: and the constant talking of the house managers and the nannies,
Speaker 2: and she's very zero taste of what real life is about.
Speaker 1: I also wanted to point out that on her way
Speaker 1: to her wedding, her one to I think his name's David.
Speaker 1: I guess it's kind of shitty to say. Maybe I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say it. Say it. I haven't had a drink,
Speaker 1: So I feel bad. She made this huge, big deal
Speaker 1: about you know, you guys saw it when we were
Speaker 1: filming Beverly Hills that I hadn't said high to her
Speaker 1: daughter when I was igot about that. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: because I didn't know that her daughter like we're walking through,
Speaker 1: we're being filmed. I had no idea. But also she
Speaker 1: sat herself and her assistant in first class and her
Speaker 1: daughter in the back. But why alms, I wish I
Speaker 1: could ditch Dove And one time some reported that I Ditcheduff.
Speaker 1: But nope. But you know, today, if a housewife was
Speaker 1: going on a vacation alone, production would be like, okay,
Speaker 1: see when you get back, take your iPhone. Here's the roll.
Speaker 1: For sure, there was a whole like ay crew was
Speaker 1: there and they were definitely ready for Camille to get
Speaker 1: in the hot tub with her friends. That once again
Speaker 1: Camille is bragging about taking care of care of them.
Speaker 2: It was them right that she was bragging to take
Speaker 2: care of them, And they got to in her voice,
Speaker 2: and they got to stand in one of our houses
Speaker 2: and we he was out of work, and we gave
Speaker 2: him one of my cars too. Shut up.
Speaker 1: God. Uh. Well, the part that I did like was
Speaker 1: when you see I feel like Lisa Vanafulm was the
Speaker 1: softer side of hers, Like she was funny, but she
Speaker 1: was a little softer back then. Maybe because you're seeing
Speaker 1: the relationships that she has with her kids, which I
Speaker 1: never saw. I was like, we never I mean maybe
Speaker 1: once to be film with Pandora, But we see the
Speaker 1: story about Lisa's son, Max was adopted at six months old,
Speaker 1: and how he has struggled to be a part of
Speaker 1: the family of high achievers. I feel like a different
Speaker 1: word could have been used, Lisa.
Speaker 2: He wants to play the guitar. He doesn't want to
Speaker 2: be a high achiever, damn him.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to run one of my.
Speaker 2: You ever met Teddy's dad, Well, she.
Speaker 1: Used to drop Max off at school and he would
Speaker 1: leave class to go smoke pot and because of this,
Speaker 1: they decided to send him Max. Ok. They decided to
Speaker 1: send Max to a school in Idaho to stay with
Speaker 1: his godmother. I want to be like, is this the
Speaker 1: same godmother that took Lucy Juicy Apple goosey? But then
Speaker 1: Max comes back. He surprises her and wants to go
Speaker 1: to the Musicians Institute on Hollywood Boulevard after he graduates.
Speaker 1: This audition was the most or application was an interesting
Speaker 1: application for me, Like if you just go and you
Speaker 1: play whatever song sitting on a stair, you know what stage.
Speaker 2: Because I'm looking for music schools for Cypia right now.
Speaker 2: Most of them are in LA and I don't think
Speaker 2: she's ready to make that jump to live in La
Speaker 2: and so I'm like, Oh, where's this school at? So
Speaker 2: I googled it.
Speaker 1: Well, can you let me know if there's a formal
Speaker 1: application where you sing and do your thing or it's
Speaker 1: just you just walk in, walk in a good guy.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Lisa's worried more so about Max
Speaker 1: and treats Max differently than she treats Pandora or do
Speaker 1: you think it's.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that Pandora maybe was an easier child
Speaker 2: to raise and Max is like she said he was
Speaker 2: smoking pot of a young age. She's worried about drugs,
Speaker 2: so I think she was concerned about his well being
Speaker 2: and maybe he never felt like keep it in now
Speaker 2: Pandora is there biological right?
Speaker 1: Yes? And she I think we heard on this episode
Speaker 1: that she was valedictorian at Pepperdine all those types of things,
Speaker 1: so it also can be really hard. My sister and
Speaker 1: I are lucky. Neither of us got good grades.
Speaker 2: So I've heard from a lot of people that have
Speaker 2: been adopted when they get older, they're kind of like,
Speaker 2: who am I? And maybe he was just trying to
Speaker 2: figure things out.
Speaker 1: Then getting back to Camille, she has the Jesus complex.
Speaker 1: She says, giving back feeds her soul and it's what
Speaker 1: makes her feel like a good person. She lives to
Speaker 1: help people and it completes her. Okay, she wasn't self important.
Speaker 1: Camil has more of like, uh gee, I'm so much
Speaker 1: better than you complex like she does.
Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about delusional, but she's kind of
Speaker 2: reality TV gold because she's really the only one that's
Speaker 2: acting like this and the only one that's getting viewers annoyed.
Speaker 2: So she was good, I mean, like a car wreck.
Speaker 1: She was good. Camille wa Yeah, Camille's Jesus complex and
Speaker 1: Taylor's spending is who would wait?
Speaker 2: Oh no, it wasn't Taylor. It wasn't It wasn't Camille's.
Speaker 1: It was Taylor.
Speaker 2: She had like a Dwight or somebody like that. He
Speaker 2: got his own confessional.
Speaker 1: You understand that Dwight then became besties with Lisa vander
Speaker 1: Pump afterwards, and then.
Speaker 2: After that, that's the same Dwight.
Speaker 1: That's the same Dwight. He's at every housewife event and
Speaker 1: he switches housewives that he's besties with.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's still around.
Speaker 1: He's still around. I think, yeah, he is always. I
Speaker 1: think he has a husband. He's always with the husband. Like,
Speaker 1: the first time I ever filmed at Villablanca, Dwight was there.
Speaker 1: I forgot who he became besties with after Lisa vander Pump.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we could go on his Instagram and easily.
Speaker 2: And you'll see he's a housewife hunter.
Speaker 1: He's a housewife hunter. So yeah, then we get back
Speaker 1: into Taylor and which we kind of already talked about.
Speaker 2: Not a lot of Kim in this episode.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of Kim or the other.
Speaker 2: One for the third or fourth, not a lot of Kim.
Speaker 1: I feel like Kim's going through it already. You can tell,
Speaker 1: you know, she's she's moving into her place. Then she
Speaker 1: shows up late and then she says, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just feel like they're not They're such different communicators.
Speaker 1: It's like always going to get lost in translation, always
Speaker 1: Like it's even like when me and Sutton try to
Speaker 1: have a conversation, we never end up saying we don't
Speaker 1: track what the other saying, and so then one of
Speaker 1: us gets offended and then one of us doubles down
Speaker 1: when it's not necessary.
Speaker 2: Kind of like us on the Pott kind of.
Speaker 1: Like kind of like us when you have Diary on
Speaker 1: the plant.
Speaker 2: I just heard that Dwight is still best friends with Taylor. Okay,
Speaker 2: still best friends.
Speaker 1: Well, good job, good job Dwight.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh so.
Speaker 2: Porscha's party cost twelve thousand, yeah, and hers cost sixty thousand.
Speaker 2: I think they were both were beautiful, but I like
Speaker 2: the Kyle really was hands on. It was more market
Speaker 2: towards so so, I mean I would have gotten to
Speaker 2: either one, but I really leaned towards Kyle's birthday party.
Speaker 1: If I was going with a child, I would choose
Speaker 1: Kyle's a million percent. What is my child going to enjoy?
Speaker 1: More Like there's like a petting zoo and a train
Speaker 1: and a jumpy thing, like all the things your kids want.
Speaker 1: I'm nervous because Slate was invited to a birthday this
Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon and it's a high tea and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I've never been to a high tea. I don't, and
Speaker 1: and Slate it's also ten and like thinks she's a teenager,
Speaker 1: but like.
Speaker 2: This is I guess, like a big old tea dress.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I've been to a tea party ultimate girls trip and
Speaker 2: I went on Revolve and got a cute little tea dress,
Speaker 2: like a little floral, puffy sleeves, puppy at the bottom.
Speaker 1: But then what do we do? We drink tea?
Speaker 2: We drink tea and we like we very fan see
Speaker 2: and then do we eat food? Little sandwiches, cucumbers and
Speaker 2: cream cheese and white bread?
Speaker 1: All right? Maybe do I need to wear a tea dress?
Speaker 2: Yes, I'll send you mine. Great, I feel like it's
Speaker 2: actually really cute.
Speaker 1: Maybe I could borrow tailors from the Mad Hatter party.
Speaker 1: But either way, I do hope that we start seeing
Speaker 1: them have a little bit more fun. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that ever happens at the beginning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we do see Kim finally in this episode.
Speaker 2: She shows up late, shows up late? Where was Kathy?
Speaker 2: Why was in Kathy there? Which earlier days did she
Speaker 2: refuse to film.
Speaker 1: I would think so, yeah, I would think so. It
Speaker 1: wasn't that like the height of like the Hiltons.
Speaker 2: To get out like Doween.
Speaker 1: Kevin the scenes for next week or the mid season
Speaker 1: or whatever the heck it's called. I was like, I
Speaker 1: have anxiety already. I have anxiety already. It's not even
Speaker 1: my family. And this was however many years ago.
Speaker 2: I would never want my family on the show.
Speaker 1: Never yikes. Well all right, well that's it, that's it,
Speaker 1: that's all she wrote. All Right, guys, make sure that
Speaker 1: you're watching along so that you can comment, let us
Speaker 1: know anything that we missed so that we can focus
Speaker 1: in on it on the next pod. Thanks guys.
Speaker 2: Bye,