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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast demands the front page and

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Speaker 1: a photo. Welcome to another edition of the Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas, coming to you

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Speaker 1: from a country filled with heroes in different time zones.

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Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood both there in New Hampshire and both Mark

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Speaker 1: Cessler and Greg Rosental holding it down in Los Angeles?

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Speaker 1: What is up? Boys and girls? Yo? I tried to

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Speaker 1: point to Mark there to just, you know, say the

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Speaker 1: top of the show. No, I like, you know, the

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Speaker 1: same way that Dan demands. Um, you know, headline screaming

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Speaker 1: headline in a glossy photo. I like to be I

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Speaker 1: like the table to be set for me that you

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Speaker 1: if you want me to speak, you appropriately set up

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Speaker 1: my comments. I see we have a new batch of

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Speaker 1: money tags off the top of the show. That's great news, um,

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Speaker 1: and I have I have done a little soul searching

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Speaker 1: about my upcoming interview and photo shoot with the Gatesville

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Speaker 1: if you didn't come out and criticize me. UM. I

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Speaker 1: understood what was inferred that it was maybe my ego

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Speaker 1: Uh so I'm backing off that. And really what I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do here is let the Gatesville Messenger and their

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Speaker 1: sports reporter, a very nice man named Mark Goodson, they

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Speaker 1: will really be the gatekeepers of where I end up

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Speaker 1: in the paper, and then upon some further introspection, because

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Speaker 1: if if nothing else, this quarantine and pandemic has prompted

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Speaker 1: tell me how much I need to work to become

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Speaker 1: a more relevant person I from on the front page. Conversely,

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Speaker 1: well I did it, I would have I'd have two

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Speaker 1: second question, Dan, this Erica, Erica couldn't be more in

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Speaker 1: never seen the Gates liaw Messenger, so do not take

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Speaker 1: her commentary as fact. It's a it's a bi weekly

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Speaker 1: all I'm looking for. The second ones. Did your introspection, Um?

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Speaker 1: It feels like you're putting a lot on, you know,

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Speaker 1: coming up today. We spun the wheel of teams on

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Speaker 1: home crowd is, you know, such a huge part of

430
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Speaker 1: the game, and it's been different I'd have to hear

431
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Speaker 1: from you know, our old buddy Zach Goldman too, you know,

432
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Speaker 1: break it down. I'm I'm no expert, but everyone watching

433
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: those games it's weird. It's different, it's not the same thing,

434
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Speaker 1: but they're also enjoying the product that's on the field ultimately,

435
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: and they're watching it and they're doing it, and that

436
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: might just be what we have to do. I want

437
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: to hear Zach Goldman on Landon Donovan if my hero,

438
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: Zachie Goldman Donovan was his guy. Uh, and that was

439
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Speaker 1: a high moment in Zack's life. I guarantee you that, Uh, finally,

440
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Speaker 1: well not finally. In other news, we have a certified

441
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Speaker 1: trop Alert and I he a man that's no stranger

442
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Speaker 1: to trop Alert's. Adrian Peterson, Uh, the running back in

443
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Speaker 1: Well you would think the back nine of his career

444
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Speaker 1: with Redskins, even though it seems to edge toward a

445
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Speaker 1: thousand yards most every season. He's now thirty five years old,

446
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Speaker 1: and he told t m Z when asked about how

447
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Speaker 1: much longer he intends to play, he wants to play

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Speaker 1: through two thousand, twenty three. Man, and why not four

449
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: more years? Peterson said, why not? Why not? Why not.

450
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: I would have never guessed he'd still be going. He's

451
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: he's sort of broken all the rules, and uh, you know,

452
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Speaker 1: there's a financial part of it. He had some he

453
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Speaker 1: had some debt, debt woes. Uh, like he was pretty

454
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Speaker 1: deep in debt. That was that was a public thing.

455
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Speaker 1: Despite all the money has made in this career. So

456
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Speaker 1: he wants to keep going. But it is a sign

457
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: of his greatness how well he's still running. And West

458
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: has been on this. I've been expecting him to fall

459
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Speaker 1: off a cliff and I prematurely buried him. Adrian Peterson

460
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: ran really well last year. Like, I don't know if

461
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Speaker 1: he's still gonna keep getting jobs, but he ran really well.

462
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Speaker 1: You would never have known that he was thirty four

463
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Speaker 1: years old last year. Yeah, I'm kind of out of

464
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Speaker 1: the business of, you know, proclaiming doubt about Adrian Peterson's

465
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Speaker 1: on field ability at this point because I've been clearly

466
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Speaker 1: wrong about his career, like twice in the latter stages. Um,

467
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Speaker 1: I don't understand. I'm not sure you know the way

468
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: football off defensive um game planning is working. That a

469
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Speaker 1: that a early down thumper who is of no use

470
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Speaker 1: in the passing game. Project that out to someone will

471
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Speaker 1: be you know, mid late thirties, four years from now.

472
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Speaker 1: I don't know what role he would demand. He wasn't

473
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Speaker 1: happy on the Saints sharing workloads. Um if you recall,

474
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Speaker 1: so you know he's gonna have to lower. Um. So

475
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Speaker 1: I was asking, you know, elements of saying how much

476
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Speaker 1: do I get the ball? Maybe a lot less? How

477
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: about that? So this was actually a new one. I

478
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: have a I have a running list of tropes trope

479
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Speaker 1: alerts in the NFL offseason, while during mini camps and

480
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Speaker 1: then through training camp. Uh, and this is a good

481
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Speaker 1: one to add. This is so how would you describe

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00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: this one? This is aging player believes he could play

483
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Speaker 1: multiple more seasons. It's very often I'm gonna play five

484
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Speaker 1: more years or till I'm forty, which in this it

485
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Speaker 1: checks both boxes. Adrian Peterson, I'm gonna play four I'm

486
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Speaker 1: gonna play five more years. But yeah, aging player, I'm

487
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Speaker 1: gonna play x more years. Well, he's kind of interesting

488
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: because he's thirty five, so he's saying I want to

489
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Speaker 1: play four more years. So he wants to play until

490
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: he's thirty nine and uh, not five years but four.

491
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: Maybe he's mixing up a little bit to keep us

492
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Speaker 1: on our toes. Go five nice round number. I feel

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Speaker 1: like he's over under his one and a half um

494
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Speaker 1: for more years. But as Mark said, he's he's proven

495
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: us wrong. He's a Hall of Famer. There's not many,

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Speaker 1: as Mark said early down thumpers like that word and

497
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Speaker 1: uh that are going to be making the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame as a running back in the coming years. He

499
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Speaker 1: might be the last one for a long long time

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Speaker 1: or maybe ever, who knows. This also gave me the idea.

501
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: I looked up how many boxes there are and a

502
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Speaker 1: bingo board, and there's twenty five. If I could come

503
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Speaker 1: up with right now, I have eighteen or nineteen. If

504
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: I can just get up to twenty five, we could

505
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Speaker 1: create trope bingo and that would just be a lot

506
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Speaker 1: of fun, I feel like every year. So I'm working

507
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Speaker 1: on that. If if anybody listeners out there, if you

508
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Speaker 1: have any tropes that that are your favorites during this

509
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Speaker 1: time of yere he's hit me up and maybe there'll

510
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 1: be some new ones I can add to the list

511
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: to get to. Alright. Finally, in the news, Big Ben Roethlisberger,

512
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: he's recovering from a nasty elbow injury that required surgery

513
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: and effectively wiped out his twenty nineteen season, But he

514
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: says he's cleaned up his life and more importantly, since

515
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: his early career issues run ins with the law, and

516
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Speaker 1: he had some issues that he acknowledged during a virtual

517
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Speaker 1: conference for Christian men, he acknowledged that he fought off

518
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Speaker 1: the field devices over the years. Here's the quote. It's

519
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: not always easy. People don't realize all the time that

520
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: US athletes were human. We sin like everyone else. I

521
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: am no different. We make mistakes, we get addicted to things,

522
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: we sin, We're human. I think sometimes we put we

523
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: get put in this pedestal where we can't make mistakes.

524
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: I've fallen as short as anybody. I've been addicted to alcohol.

525
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: I've been addicted to pornography, which makes me then not

526
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Speaker 1: the best husband, not the father, not the best Christian

527
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: I can be. Big Ben got married in two thousand eleven,

528
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: is still married to his wife. They have children. Uh,

529
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: and he's being very open about his past issues. How

530
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: about that? Well, I mean, go ahead, go ahead, right,

531
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Speaker 1: And I think people number one like this one. I

532
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: don't think Big Ben like in terms of um. First

533
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: of all, The problem with being a quarterback in the

534
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: NFL is your life from the age of even if

535
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: you're a middling quarterback, is tracked heavily from the age

536
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: of like twenty through. I don't I'm glad that. Um,

537
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, most people listening to the show don't know

538
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: most of the things that happened to me or the

539
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: things that I did between those years. I mean, there

540
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: were some good things, but there's a lot of stuff

541
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: that would have created headlines for the wrong reasons too.

542
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: I do think, um, specifically with Big Ben, because that

543
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: was brought up when he got married to this woman's

544
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: specific you that people can change a little bit. I

545
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: think his compass has changed. Um, this isn't the same

546
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: guy of ten years ago. Uh so, I I don't think,

547
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: you know, he's owning up to who he was and

548
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 1: who he is and the fact that he's not perfect. Um,

549
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: he's kind of a dartboard for us to attack on

550
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: the show sometimes. But I mean, when's the last time

551
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: that Big Ben has been a problem for anyone? Sure,

552
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: but you know these aren't youthful and discretions. These are

553
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: two accusations of rape. And if that wants discounting that

554
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm talking no, No, I'm just saying that after that, absolutely,

555
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: but I'm I am just thinking he is an interesting

556
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: guy to think about because if that had happened, you know,

557
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: in the last few years, does he stay with the

558
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 1: same team he's on? Um? You know he that marriage

559
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: that that you mentioned was was a year after the

560
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: second of those um two accusations, and you can go

561
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: back and look at the police reports and in the

562
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: reason why the accuser the second time around didn't didn't

563
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: want to go through with the trial because you didn't

564
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: want it um intruding on her life. But it's it's

565
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: real deal stuff, and I think that's always been something

566
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: that people who follow the league are, you know, it's

567
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: it's a shadow over Ben Roethlisberger, and maybe this is

568
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, he has not addressed those issues too directly

569
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Speaker 1: over the years, and maybe this is part of you know,

570
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: the first the first step of doing that. And the NFL,

571
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: by the way, reduced that suspension from six to four

572
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: games a very a very different time and the Steelers

573
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: sort of transparently like pretended like they were gonna maybe

574
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: trade him or maybe they really were going to trade him,

575
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: but uh didn't happen. I think it's true. And I've

576
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: having covered the league for ten years now, I remember

577
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: mark a lot of different cases that would pop up

578
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Speaker 1: that we would write one off newsers on that would

579
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: then disappear. Um and if they happen today, and this

580
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: is a good thing, that it is a much bigger deal.

581
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think big Ben in terms of his career,

582
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: aspects of the number of games he's played, in the

583
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: fact that he's still remember the Steelers. I think the

584
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: fact that that stuff went down ten years ago, Ah,

585
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: it made it a lot different because if it happened today,

586
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if he if he's

587
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: even in football anymore. It's it's changed that much. And

588
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. Ye. And it should be noted

589
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: that he wasn't convicted of any crime, but like Greg said,

590
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: yes there there was. If you did the research on

591
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: it and read up on it, there it was not

592
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: a good situation. I think Roethlisberger's in these comments is

593
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: saying that he's moved to try to be a better

594
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: person from where he was at that time in his life.

595
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: Pornography thing, that's interesting. I stressed out about that as

596
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: a father too, because like growing up, we were in

597
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: a totally different place with that, Like I see your face, Greg,

598
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: I know you shouldn't know, but it's like no, no, no,

599
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: just that such a different world now in that realm

600
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: I actually stressed out about is the father of two boys,

601
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: what you have access to and things of that nature.

602
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: Big Ben is of our generation, so I guess he

603
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: wasn't in the same boat. But you could go down

604
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: dangerous pass with that for sure too and absolutely and

605
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: like owns up to that, right. I think also, you know,

606
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: we're fathers of kids, and mine are a little bit

607
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: older than your guys. But there when they their ability

608
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: to like get to places on the internet, this is

609
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: not breaking news. It's like stunning and it's like, um,

610
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: their brains work that way, and what they're able to

611
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: discover probably um by an earlier age than I discovered.

612
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: Some of that stuff can mess with you. So I

613
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: think the parental concern is very, very real, and like

614
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 1: it's probably better just to be upfront about that than

615
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: to run away from it. You know. Yeah, Big Ben

616
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: is a different situation than what I'm talking about. Yeah,

617
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: but it is. It's a thing, all right, That's what's

618
00:32:52,760 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: happening in the news. That's all Cousins feeling. He's got

619
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: it of scrimag back and picked off. Can you believe

620
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: this six is the harris pinball style. That's the crow

621
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: that could very well. He rakes all the conversation about

622
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: whether or not Kirk Cousins can show up big in

623
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: the big game. The Minnesota Vikings are up next in

624
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: the Wheel of Teams Tenants six. Last season they advanced

625
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: to the divisional playoffs and then we're wiped away by

626
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: the forty Niners. But they are back looking to make

627
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: noise and NFC North joining us our guests. We like

628
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: to get someone who is connected to the team, whether

629
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: that's as a beat writer or in this case as

630
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: a well known fan, and we have Drew McGarry, who

631
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: is a calumnist for Medium's Gen magazine, formally of course

632
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: a dead Spin and g Q. He's got a new

633
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: book called Point be Out. Please checked that out. He's

634
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: a great writer. Drew, thank you for joining us something

635
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: around the NFL podcast O. Hey, thank you for having

636
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: me out and I appreciate it. Dan mentioned that as

637
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: we were talking to you're giving off a little bit

638
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: of like a Brian Bodsworth vibe here calling us with

639
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: the Blue Skies behind you from your vacation home. Apparently

640
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: I fulfilled my potential after college in a much more

641
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Speaker 1: much more so. All right, So Drew is also a

642
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: big Vikings fan, as I said, And uh, you may

643
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: or may not remember this, Drew, but a few years back, uh,

644
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: my pain rankings Comma did for the NFL ranking the

645
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: most pain franchises. I had asked you to help me

646
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: out with the Q and a UM portion of that,

647
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: and you nicely. Uh you did that. And to to

648
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: explain that Drew was real deal, I asked him who

649
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: the paintron Saint of pain was for the Vikings, and

650
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: I thought he'd say Gary Anderson, but he said it

651
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: was wasswas Agua, who was a corner back who got

652
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: roasted in the NFC title game, the forty one nothing

653
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: lost to the Giants. That was maybe more on Danny

654
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: Green for putting poor Mr Sir Wanguin in that spot. Right. Yeah,

655
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: I always thought, Um, I was never as mad at

656
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: Gary Interson as everyone else was. He got through the

657
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: Ray Finkel treatment after he missed that one field goal.

658
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: But I put that title game more on Jenny taking

659
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: a knee at the end that I ever put on.

660
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: I'd ask you, I'd ask you this. I mean you,

661
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: you wrote this incredible book about parenting. You're with your

662
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: your kids during your work um holiday that you mentioned, uh,

663
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 1: someone could get hurt basically as the name of the book.

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Speaker 1: As a parent raising younger people, do you feel that

665
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: if you passed on the Vikings fanhood to these um

666
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: young hearts and minds, that someone could get hurt more

667
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: times over than they need to. I have passed on

668
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: Vikings fandom to them. I actually don't live in Minnesota anymore.

669
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: Up in Minnesota, I don't live there anymore. And I

670
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: live in Maryland, which is uh, which is worse because

671
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: it puts him in danger of being Skins fans and

672
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: I and UH and my uh, but two of my

673
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: kids don't care about football. And my my middle kid,

674
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: who's eleven, he adopted the Skins and I didn't reject

675
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: to it. I was just like you, you you make

676
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: that bed, you lying it kid, Because obviously if I

677
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: had to queet Tim the fan will given him a

678
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,959
Speaker 1: lifetime of pain. But now he gets to be in pain,

679
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: and he gets to be mortified to be a Skins fan,

680
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: So Joe, let's let's kind of turn our attention to

681
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: the Vikings here and tell me where you kind of

682
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: see them, where they fit in the landscape in the NFL,

683
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: because to me, they're kind of a tough read. Are

684
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: they an actual contender? Are Are they your classic nine

685
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: and seven, ten and six, eleven and five imposta that's

686
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: never going to seriously contend for a Super Bowl with

687
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: are cousins there? Where do you see this Vikings team?

688
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: Do you have Super Bowl aspirations as a fan of

689
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: the team, or do you see this team as maybe

690
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: a bit of a fraud mm hmm, Well, I mean

691
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: they're always frauds right there. They are by far. I

692
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: mean I've I've said this a lot, but they are

693
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: by far the winning his team in NFL his tree

694
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: and never win a super Bowl there, I believe maybe

695
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: five or six all the time and win percentage, and

696
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 1: you have to go you have to go down all

697
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: the way to like number sixteen or seventeen to find

698
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: another team and all in terms of all time win

699
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: lost percentage that hasn't won a Super Bowl. So you know,

700
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: they're they're always fraudulent. Whenever they're good uh this particular

701
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: year though, I think most people have them paid for

702
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: being average, because obviously they trade away Stefon Digs. Um,

703
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: they got rid of Xavier Rhodes, and they got rid

704
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: of Trey Waynes. Waynes I thought was better than his

705
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: stat suggested. Davir Rhodes fell off a cliff into the

706
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,399
Speaker 1: sewer last year, so I think that was that big

707
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: of a deal. So they're essentially hoping for greenhorns, um

708
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: like Mike Hughes to succeed for them in the secondary,

709
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: and that will really dictate whether or not they're able

710
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: to do anything this year. The other thing is that, um,

711
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, they're putting a lot of stock in the

712
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: first round rookie and Justin Jefferson uh to fill the

713
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: whole the Digs had. And of course the problem is

714
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: that there's been no mini camp. Uh. What trending camp

715
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: will look like with COVID, I don't know why not

716
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: that will be a season. I still think it's debatable. Uh.

717
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: So you know, how they're able to integrate Justin Jefferson,

718
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: who plays more of the slot uh than outside into

719
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: that offense and still give still give Kirk Cousins protection

720
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: to throw the ball and do the things that he

721
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: was able to do last year. So well, I think

722
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: all of that's up for for debate. So I think

723
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna be pegged, just like in eight and eight,

724
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: nine and seven. Team. The good news that the Vikings

725
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: are usually good when they're pegg to be terminally average,

726
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: like year they went fifteen one or dead degreen, no

727
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: one expects. So you know the years that they like, Yeah,

728
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: they surprised me by being really good at first those

729
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 1: years and then they destroyed my soul. But that could

730
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: be this year, but I don't. This is one of

731
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: those years where if if they play, I'm just happy

732
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: to see them play. You know, it's funny you don't

733
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: hear you're taking ahead. I was gonna say, you've got

734
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: me thinking. This is actually kind of a typical you

735
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: know Vikings era if they're always pretty because I was

736
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: gonna say, like this, Mike Zimmerrera, I was curious, like

737
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: how Vikings fans feel about it in general, because they're

738
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: always pretty good, but they're not like as Dan said,

739
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: they're never like quite real contended. They're always like counting

740
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: on defense when their defense is is good, but you're

741
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: not gonna win. They're they're not like, hey, we're gonna

742
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 1: go dominate and win a Super Bowl. Good. I kind

743
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: of like, um, the idea that right now they're a

744
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: little bit more of an offense of team with Gary Kubiak,

745
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: with Dalvin Cook, with Dealen And then it's kind of

746
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: weird to like think that you're an offensive team. You're

747
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: gonna go as far maybe as your offense goes, but

748
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: you've got Kirk Cousins leading the way. Like what's the

749
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: Vikings fans feeling of Cousins now going into his third year.

750
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I think every Vikings fan is more or

751
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: less like the rest of thefl and they think Kirk

752
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: Cousins is a fraud And again I live in Maryland,

753
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: so I've seen her be fraudulent throughout his career. Um.

754
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 1: But you know the other thing about having Kirk Cousins

755
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: is your quarterback is that you it's weird you have

756
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: no choice but to defend him. You know, you have

757
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: to be like, well, if you look at the stats,

758
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: he's pretty good. He is pretty good. He's a good

759
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: he's a good quarterback. And uh, you know, I think

760
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: whether or not he can actually win a Super Bowl,

761
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: it's very, very dependent on who's around him. Like he's

762
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: not He's not Aaron Rodgers. He can't make chicken style

763
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: at Chicken sh I t so, like you know that

764
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: that's just who he is. It still to be a

765
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: bigger task for him this year without Diggs, and I

766
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: thought Diggs was the best white out in the NFL.

767
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: I don't want again. It's kind of but um, but

768
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: I understand why they had to do that, but it

769
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: makes his life harder, and it'll makes his life harder

770
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: if Dalvin Cook doesn't coming to camp because he wants

771
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: a new contract because he deserves one. But he's in

772
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: the correct offense and he does have good players around him,

773
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: and they are doing their best to make the line better,

774
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: which they had not done in years before. So honestly,

775
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of over the fatalism at this

776
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: point and I hope for the best and if they

777
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: do badly, then it's just I'm inured to them, you know,

778
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: taking my psyche and putting it through a paper shredder.

779
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's all happened by for me now,

780
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm inured to the habit. But I it's funny

781
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: that you you, I kind of thought it actually crossed

782
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: my mind because I've been a big family years for

783
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: a long time to that when Cousins went there are

784
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: that you might have some type of meltdown because he

785
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: seems like the type of quarterback that might get a

786
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: Drew McGarry type really fired up. That whether it's his

787
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: personality or the way he plays plays the game, the

788
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: way he kind of some people see him as a

789
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: bit of a phony, some people see him as a

790
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: goody two shoes. You so you're okay with this guy

791
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: is kind of the face of the franchise. Yeah, No,

792
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't really have a problem with it.

793
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: I mean, remember, it was the interesting because they picked

794
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: Kirk when they had after the Case Knadom season, they

795
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: had to pick between Case Sam Bradford and Teddy Bridgewater,

796
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: and no one knew if Teddy was gonna be able

797
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: to come back all the way. I think, particularly Mike

798
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: Zimmer thought the Cases Brilliant season was essentially a one off,

799
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: which turned out to be, and then Sam Bradford couldn't

800
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: be trusted with his health and then turned out he's

801
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: not in the league anymore. Um So essentially it was

802
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: kind of the only decision they could make. I think

803
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: it's possible after this year, now that Teddy's with the Panthers,

804
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: that they will have regretted not signing Teddy to a

805
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: long term deal. But the time they did it, they

806
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: simply didn't know if he would if his leg would explode,

807
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: you know, from a bolt of lightning coming from the heavens. Again,

808
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't blame it for doing what

809
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: they did. I mean at the time, it was like,

810
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, it was I, you know, made fun of

811
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: correctly everybody else and it's like, okay, well that was

812
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: your quarterback. Enjoy and I had to deal with that.

813
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: But again, I'm used to virtual humiliation on the football field.

814
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: I'd ask you this real quick. I mean, Arif Hassan

815
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: of the Athletic I thought he had a good line.

816
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: He called um last year's Vikings a case studying the

817
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: difference between good and great. UM, and I, to Greg's

818
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: point in what you've said to I kind of just

819
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: feel that way about the Vikings always that they're they're

820
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: they're they're in the playoff picture. UM. I had a

821
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: real hard time taking them seriously last year. Does Mike

822
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: Zimmer can Mike Zimmer may them great? Is he that

823
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 1: kind of a coach or have we seen the ceiling

824
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: with Mike Simmer? Okay, no, I don't think so. I

825
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: like Zim. Zim makes a lot of in game booners

826
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: that you know, we'll drive you crazy, and you sort

827
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: of hang them on him for the rest, like whenever

828
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: a coach makes a really stupid game management error or

829
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: screws up with the time out or something like if

830
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: you're a fan, it's six to you forever, like it stuck,

831
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: like like before he won a Super Bowl last year,

832
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: like you know, all Philly Eagles fans thought about Landy

833
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: reid Ward like when he would run you know, a

834
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: dive with you know, Brian rest Brook at like the

835
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: five when it was like third and goal. You know,

836
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: like like that stuff, just six with you. But I

837
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear he's the best coach they've had

838
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: since Bud Grant. I think he has issues in terms of,

839
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: you know, he goes through offensive coordinates like he goes

840
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: through underwear. But I think once he hired Stefanski last year,

841
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: he had no choice but to let the fancy go

842
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: to be a head coach. Uh, in Cleveland, but where

843
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: he replaced him with Gary Kubiak, who essentially was the

844
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: puppet master of that offense a year ago. So he's

845
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: made the you know, he it took him a while

846
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: to figure out what he wanted in terms of offense,

847
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: but he wasn't wrong in terms of his instincts and

848
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: in terms of the people that he's had in it.

849
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: And he coordinates with defense very well. So I can't

850
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: complain about any of that. I think he's a good coach.

851
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, whether or not he's a

852
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: championship coach, you know, like I said, you know, people

853
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: said that about that Andy Reid wasn't that guy for

854
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: a long time, when last year proved it was definitively

855
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: untrue and and had been the case even when he

856
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: hadn't one time. So no, I I think Zimmer is

857
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: a good coach, and I'm I'm glad they have him.

858
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: Uh you know, whether or not they win a title

859
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: with him, but you know, the evidences show strongly that

860
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: that won't happen. But I don't think it's because of

861
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: anything that that Zimmer has done poorly. All right, before

862
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: we let you go, Drew, as Mark said, you're the

863
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: author of many books, including a book on fatherhood. Any

864
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: advice for us parents during the summer months now of

865
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: how to kind of stay sane in a household where

866
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: everyone is trapped together. I know you're on a working

867
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: vacation right now. Any advice from my advice to be

868
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: the league but that uh no, my um, I would say,

869
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: just uh, let go a little bit. I'm sure parents

870
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: have already done that during the spring um but in

871
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: the summer, you know, if you have, if you're close

872
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: to outside and relatively uncramped spaces, let them be outside

873
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: as much as they possibly can be. And if they

874
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: want to mess around it beyond screens longer than you know,

875
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: the parenting guides tell them they can be on screens.

876
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: And just they went to buy him an Xbox. Who cares? Who?

877
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: I feel like there's didn't great place right now. He's like,

878
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: he seems pretty chilled out. He's fine with the vikings.

879
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 1: He's on like a semi he's writing articles just absolutely

880
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: destroying Bill Simmons while like in on a beach vacation,

881
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: calling him an effing failure this chronicle. I mean, you're

882
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: in a good spot. Mccary's flying I'm doing. I'm doing

883
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: as well as I can and make do with what

884
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: you got, just like just like football teams. All right, Drew,

885
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, uh and good

886
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: luck both to you with Jen magazine or all your

887
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: other projects in a new book, and of course to

888
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: your vikings. Enjoy that vacation. But I think that tornado

889
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: is taking him awhile I wish that the listeners could

890
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: know that we have you know, we taped the whole

891
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: show on video of course, so we could uh you know,

892
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: do this during the quarantine. And Drew started the interview

893
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: off with the with his cell phone pointed up at him,

894
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: giving him the bobs Worth look, and then about halfway

895
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: through he just was holding the phone where half of

896
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: his hand was um covering the the camera. Uh. So

897
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: that was that was enjoyable. It was good. Good to

898
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: hear from Drew McGarry. He's he's one of the good ones.

899
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got his fastball that I mean that

900
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: Simmons article, I mean that's in a major newspaper. He

901
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: sent that to us and you could just feel I

902
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: mean the energy from Greg's house. That's those are my

903
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: favorite McGary pieces. Is when he just decides to you know,

904
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: he just doesn't get give like he he goes. He

905
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: goes for it. If he he wants to take someone down,

906
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna do it. Yeah. He once famously had a

907
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: column for dead Spin called Lebron James is a cop sucker. Yeah,

908
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: that's not fair. You know, Eric is not going to

909
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: make her afternoon match with von Lindel if we keep

910
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: dropping uh curse words into the show, just throwing that

911
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: out there. I don't know who's who's playing tennis in

912
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: her backyard tennis court. If there, it seems like you

913
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: could pull some legit talent former un H tennis player.

914
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: Not not feeling that apparently. Yeah, wow, Eric would definitely

915
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: not paying attention to the show right now. All right, hey,

916
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: before we move on any other thoughts, Greg, you did

917
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: the roster projection for the Vikings. What do you think

918
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: about that defense? By the way, I mean you think, uh,

919
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: do you think it's proven? Especially upfront? It's a little

920
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 1: different in the back end it so it didn't look different,

921
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: it's totally different. Job made a good point about you know,

922
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: the court, you know, the pandemic that normally I would think, look,

923
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer has been there forever, and they still have

924
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: a lot of veterans. They're actually a team that's you know,

925
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: you would think would be well set up and have

926
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: a lot of continuity, but they just so happened to

927
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: have the biggest turnover that their defense has had by

928
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: far in the Mike Zimmer era. I mean, they're higher secondary,

929
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: which you know he mentioned is is knew they're they're

930
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: counting on their first round pick, Jeff Gladen, you to play,

931
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: but it's it's my cues, it's Holton hill Um. And

932
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: then upfront to like, their defensive end position has always

933
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: been one of the best in the league, defensive tackle

934
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: to really the whole line, and right now it's it's

935
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: the Neil Hunter, who's great, and and then it's some

936
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: question marks from r Steven has been there for a

937
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: bit uh and as a solid player, but they brought

938
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: in Michael Pierce. They gave him a lot of money

939
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: that the Ravens nose tackle. They have a guy ahead

940
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: and bow who West loved, who came on super strong

941
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 1: at the end of last year. But he was he's

942
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: a fourth year player, a seventh round pick. He might

943
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: have been on the Browns at one point, I'm not

944
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: even he went around the league a couple of times

945
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: and looked like a stud. So suddenly, like that was

946
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: they were known for their past for us setting up everything,

947
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: and suddenly you're counting on some guys that have not

948
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 1: been there. And I think they would be helped out

949
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: greatly if they could bring back Everson Griffin, who's still

950
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: out there. I think that's a possibility, especially you know,

951
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin going to a whole new scheme and a

952
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: whole new team versus this. He said with his own

953
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: in his own words, that he'd go back. I mean,

954
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer if he does one thing, you know, consistently

955
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: well over the course of a very long career is

956
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 1: coach up secondaries. So I think we've got a little

957
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: bit more of an advantage there with him than Um

958
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: and a different coach. But I I've flipped to the

959
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: other side of the ball, and you know you've you've

960
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: moved Steffon Diggs. I thought they've got they've got a

961
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: good um return on that trade. But you're asking justin Jefferson.

962
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: They need him to come in and be like a

963
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: thousand yard receiver. I mean, at least in terms of

964
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: talent right away and how many wide receivers that look

965
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: that sound like a great deal um in on June

966
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: and past years taken a couple of years to warm up.

967
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: I mean asking a rookie receiver to come in and

968
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: flip the switch like that is is lasking a lot.

969
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: And they don't really have a third receiver. We talked

970
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: about the Seahawks. They don't have much depth and the

971
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: Vikings are pretty similar. IRV. Smith is a guy if

972
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: we were doing, you know, making the leap where we

973
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: were doing fifteen guys like back in the old days,

974
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: if Smith would make my list, the second year tight

975
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: end who did a lot of things, who was kind

976
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: of what you're looking for, who can kind of he

977
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: can block. But he's definitely a fun receiver and I

978
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: could see him being being a nice maybe their number

979
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 1: two receiver. And Vikings Vans will tell you they haven't

980
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: had an incredible amount of luck in recent years on

981
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: high profile wide receivers breaking in and being the impact

982
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: players they need them to be. Maybe that ends with

983
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: the with the latest guy. And I guess my one

984
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: thing I disagreed or I disagree with what Drew said

985
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: was he kind of had them pegged to the Vikings

986
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: as a team that's seen nationally as a middling five team.

987
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't quite get that vibe. I think, um, I

988
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: think overall, even with Stefan Diggs out of the picture,

989
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: that people will be picking the Vikings for the playoffs.

990
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: But they are at least some people will. But they

991
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: are a team that going back to the kind of

992
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 1: the overarching point of the beginning of that conversation, you know,

993
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: they squeezed by the Saints, and that was a great job.

994
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: And you know, to go to New Orleans in that

995
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: wild card round and get out of there with a

996
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: win that included that touchdown drive and overtime with Cousins,

997
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: which was so big for his career. That was huge.

998
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: But then you go to San Francisco the next week

999
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: and you're not even competitive from you know, the opening kickoffs,

1000
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: eight first downs in that game. You're right. I went

1001
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: back and looked at the box score and it's like

1002
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: I kind of forgot how that was just even more

1003
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: one sided than the score. When everyone talks about the

1004
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: runs defense, but it was their offense did not show

1005
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: up on any of the whole team. Well, I fly

1006
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: them there. I don't know how much it costs and

1007
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: that would have saved the money. And that happened several

1008
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: times to them. Uh there was I remember that game

1009
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 1: we're watching the garage that I believe it was a

1010
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: Monday night game with the Vikings when Keith Hansas was

1011
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: in town where they pulled another total no show on

1012
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 1: offense and a hundred and forty seven total yards in

1013
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: that playoff loss and the Niners kind of took the

1014
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: foot off the pedal or that could have been one

1015
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: of those like you know, Jaguars Dolphins disgraceful playoff blowouts

1016
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: and ended up twenty seven to ten, as I believe. Anyway,

1017
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 1: the Vikings, we'll see what fit. I. I think they're

1018
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: the safest. I guess they would be my pick to

1019
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: win the division because to me, they they are safer team.

1020
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure like about the pack like to me,

1021
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 1: the Packers are. They could be good. They could be bad.

1022
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: I I actually do feel kind of packs could be bad. Yeah,

1023
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean I think they could be like seven and nine.

1024
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: I think they could be a seven and nine type

1025
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: of team. Sure high floor than that. I I think

1026
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: the Vikings have a pretty high floor. I guess it

1027
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: is a good way to put it, You know, I

1028
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: think they will. I I would be really surprised if

1029
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: if at the end of the year they're not in

1030
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: the at the at least in the mix. And if

1031
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: if I was picking one of those teams in the North,

1032
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: they would be it. I would just I'd always ticket

1033
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: them for a wild card in this era, and anything

1034
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: on top of that is is gravy. But that's just

1035
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: a terrible scenario for a fan. Does anyone have any

1036
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: um concept in their mind to them going to the

1037
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl with in this current incarnation? No. I could

1038
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: think of a lot of fan bases that are in

1039
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: a way worse spot worse, but they're stuck in that

1040
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: like you're you're not a terrible team, um you have

1041
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: you also are just be basically one of these teams

1042
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: that flowed through our lives. It's nine and seven, like

1043
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: five or six years in a row, and I have

1044
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: to spend way more time talking about them that i'd

1045
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: want to. You're eventually gonna get waxed in January. You

1046
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: hope to just get in the playoffs and then catch

1047
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: some breaks maybe, But you're right. I think part of

1048
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: the reason you feel that way, and It's totally fair.

1049
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: Is their two best teams under Zimmer have been absolutely

1050
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: destroyed to get knocked out of the playoffs. So even

1051
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: even the Vikings at their best under Zimmer got totally hammered,

1052
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: whether it was last year or when the Eagles took

1053
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: him out. I kind of forgot how much marketed the

1054
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: Vikings last year and bubbled up in this kind of

1055
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: a few years. Ever, so I think I ever since

1056
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: he picked them as the team of a t L

1057
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: at five and oh really the only the only team

1058
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: of SESTL, the only team that he's ever sort of

1059
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: put his heart out there, and it was like they

1060
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: they immediately cratered, and it was like it was almost

1061
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: like Mark was like feeling he spread his Brown's juice

1062
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: on another team and it just was like too much.

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Speaker 1: Remember it was genuinely uncomfortable when the Vikings went on

1064
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: a five game losing streak in that season. No one

1065
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 1: was responding to his text, no, because also what was

1066
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: happening was this campaign happening on air where Dan, you know,

1067
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: rewriting history like someone like to do, talking about how

1068
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: he was all along on the Raiders. You know, I'm

1069
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: the I was the Raiders guy wanted the Raiders. It's

1070
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: like you, I know, but I refused to anoint them

1071
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: as team of a t L without four person buying,

1072
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: and you gave buy in and then you pulled it

1073
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: when times got tough, and I didn't like that. It's

1074
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: bringing up bad feelings, I could tell. And I love it.

1075
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: I love it. I couldn't get West to buying on

1076
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Speaker 1: the Raiders. And that was the fun Derek Carr season.

1077
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: That was annoying to me, but I hadn't thought about it. Um,

1078
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Speaker 1: all right, good good stuff today. Thank you, Drew McGarry. Ricky,

1079
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: you know when when we bring into the show, we

1080
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: just we gotta have buy in from you. Ricky. It

1081
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: didn't get it on that last interaction with Mark, No,

1082
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: I can't win. You're calling me blue bloods. You get mad,

1083
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: you're taking tent like I just said. Yeah, I'm not

1084
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: gonna engage with your with your absolute slander. Wow. Well

1085
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: I was not trying to take you into that area

1086
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: with that comment. So I I am aged. Sterena Williams

1087
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Speaker 1: is hitting tennis balls up my head while I'm recording.

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Speaker 1: All right, Okay, that's a bit of a that's a

1089
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: bit of a sore spot. Now we're starting to learn

1090
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: that and then forget about entertainment value. As friends, we

1091
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: should recognize that Eric is uncomfortable and strive to be better. Absolutely,

1092
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: I thought the von lind little bit was funny. I mean,

1093
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: that isn't funny. That is a funny name to bring up. Well,

1094
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: you know what you can do? You can you can drive.

1095
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: It's probably closed right now, but the Pro Tennis Hall

1096
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: of Fame isn't that just a little you know, it's

1097
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: not too far away. It's in Rhode Island's basically the

1098
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: same state. Uh, And you can go look at the

1099
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: bust or whatever they do there, and you can check

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00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: out the Van Lendo, one of the most uh dislikes tennis. Yeah, Ricky,

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00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: just take the chopper over to the tennis all fit.

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Speaker 1: Good luck with your front page, Dan, All right, this

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00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: is immediately alright. Uh, we'll be back on Friday. The

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00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: network shows back uh the Around the NFL broadcast on Friday,

1105
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: six pm Eastern three pm Pacific, So make sure you

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00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: tune in for that. And again, everybody, it's like, how

1107
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: do I watch the show if I don't have NFL network?

1108
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, we don't know what to tell you

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00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: have the network to watch the show and and I don't.

1110
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: In these times, I'm not even gonna say go get

1111
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: out of film network is maybe financially that doesn't make

1112
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: sense right now, but just consider this to be almost

1113
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: like a pay per view version of our show on Friday,

1114
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: and if you have Basic cable and you get the network,

1115
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: you can watch it. And if you can't watch it,

1116
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: that stinks. But we'll be back in podcast for them

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00:58:56,120 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: on Monday. I don't know what else to say, saying

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Speaker 1: heads and signing off bour Whitet storm the old Boston,

1119
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Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood from the deck till Friday. I really letting

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Speaker 1: it ride today