1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast mutually parts ways with behaters. 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Round the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal alongside some heroes, Mark Sessler and Chris Westling. 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: What's going on? How are you? I'm doing well. I 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: think you just cranked up my headset by mistake, I'm 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: sitting in This is odd. I'm sitting in Dan's chair, 7 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: which I don't think I've done the entire time in 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: this new Death Star. We are definitely missing our our 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: good friend and our talented, handsome host, Dan Hansis, who 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: is out today just it's a day off. He's taking 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: care of his his son Jack. They're spending some quality 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: time before we all leave our families for more than 13 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: a week in Phoenix, and he'll be joining us there 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: where we have a couple of big shows, including our 15 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: post super Bowl show, our video show should be fun. 16 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: Dan got invited to the super Bowl. You're telling us 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Dan is coming, like you guys have not. I didn't 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: know that was the case. So you're saying Dan, you 19 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: don't want Dan to be and I'm very happy to know, 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: but I just said never. You know, I didn't know that, 21 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: did you? I figured all of us were going, but 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: I never got confirmation on that. Connor Or also going, Well, 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: we should. We're going to talk to connor Or a 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: little bit later in this show. He's at the Senior 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: Ball this week in Mobile. We're gonna play a little 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 1: game of who do you Trust? It's been a while 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: since we played that. We'll get do a little Super 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: Bowl analysis, and we'll also talk about some news. I 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: don't know if you guys have any little chit chat. 30 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: You know, in the beginning of the show, we usually 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: have some chit chat, some interpersonal stuff. We usually start with. 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: We got hammered for a little bit too much chit 33 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: chat and the last show, but I thought that was 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: delightful to get our grievances out of the way. There 35 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: was some heat in the group. We got hammered for it. 36 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: Not here and there. Wait, you were mentioning someone was 37 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: upset about it. Yeah, we got we got some you know. 38 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: Handsome Hank didn't like it, thought we took too long 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: to get to the show. There were some listeners, but 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: I would say there's many more listeners who seem more 41 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: interested in our interpersonal um grievances and insecurities. Than any football. 42 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: Oh come on, The only tweets I got about that 43 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: show where was that it was one of our funniest ever. 44 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: It was like thirty five positive tweets. But then Henry 45 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: Handsome Hank, the program director, said he didn't like it, 46 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: and so it ceased. He's just miffed about our Jim 47 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: Tom solo analysis t D. That could be true, TD. 48 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: Behind the Glass our producer, of course, also, Zach Goldman 49 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: is going to be stepping into this U show kind 50 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: of like Drew Bledsoe in the two thousand and one 51 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: a f C Championship game. It's gonna steer this thing home, 52 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: t D. What do you feel about the ratio of like, 53 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, conversation between us to to football in general. 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm always a fan of letting people know who the 55 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: man is behind the analysis. I do think it was 56 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 1: a little bit long glass episode though. Alright, that'll be fine. 57 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: We didn't ask you for your full take on it, 58 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: all right, None of that. All right, let's do some news. 59 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: We still win this guy and I'll stay in it. 60 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: Four minutes twenty second, let's go may Man Russell Wilson 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: bringing it on home. Down twelve points four, minutes to go. 62 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: So positive, still believe it, and he still pulled it off. 63 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: Great stuff by NFL Films Inside the NFL. Yeah, he's 64 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: so positive. He's such a leader. He actually somehow made 65 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: Brandon Bostick dropped a wide open on side kick. I'm 66 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: just guess saying I think you're a little scared, isn't 67 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: that I am? The Seahawks are frightening with the running 68 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: game in their defense. I would have rather seen the 69 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: Packers as a Patriots fan, But aren't all the things going. 70 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm always gonna think next week, when I'm there and 71 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: the Seahawks are talking about all the things that are 72 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: great about them and all the reasons they're there, and 73 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: and it's all true. They've been, you know, the best 74 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: team in the league the last few years, I'm also 75 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: gonna be thinking, Yeah, but none of that would be 76 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: true if Brandon Boston caught that kick. Yeah, like the 77 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: Doug Ball wouldn't saying nobody respects their wide receivers. You 78 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: mean the wide receivers that couldn't say, oparate from coverage 79 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: for sixty minutes in that game and then finally made 80 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: a play. Well, sometimes things like the tuck rule happened, Greg, 81 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: So you know, sometimes to get to a super Bowl, strange, bizarre, 82 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: historical football moments must occur, and it's all about what 83 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: you do once you get those breaks. And uh, speaking 84 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: of wacky things involving the Patriots, I guess we gotta 85 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: talk about the biggest story in the NFL right now, 86 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: which is obviously the deflated balls controversy. I refused to 87 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: use the gate at the end of anything, so I'm 88 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: not going to talk about that. But today was a 89 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: big day in the story because Tom Brady and Bill 90 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Belichick both spoke about the issue. Brady says I did 91 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: not alter the ball in any way and essentially pleaded ignorance. 92 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick had an eight and a half minute statement 93 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: that I think was probably stronger than what Tom Brady said, 94 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: really went through how he has nothing to do with 95 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: the ball preparation. I'll start with you, Mark Sessler, since 96 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: you wrote the Belichick piece, are you buying what the Patriots? 97 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: First of all, let's call it what editor NFL dot 98 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: com editor David Eely calls it, which is ball ghazzi. 99 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: I don't like that either. I like ball ghazzi. It 100 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: just means of a fiasco involving the football. I think, Um, 101 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. I I didn't even realize the Belichick 102 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: news conference was happening until about four minutes after I 103 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: got a cup of coffee. I'm sitting down and bang, 104 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: this thing explodes. And like Belichick, who you outside of 105 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: his Friday pressors when he'll wax poetic about something that happened. 106 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: In like one he unleashed like a seven minute statement, 107 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: and I thought that he did a good job unpacking 108 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: everything he could have said about his take on what happened, 109 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: and it was pretty complete. I struggled with some of it. 110 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't know where I stand with 111 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: this thing. It's like I I know that I know 112 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: that it's like, it's not a big deal. It's not. 113 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: It wouldn't have changed the second of that Cults game 114 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: they hammered the Colts. Has nothing to do with the 115 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: game itself. But I don't know. The NFL is investigating it, 116 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: and we'll have to see what they do. I'm not 117 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 1: sure I buy things When Belichick says he's never touched 118 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: a game ball in forty years as a head coach, 119 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: stuff just stands out to me. But I I you're 120 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: saying you don't know where you stay. I don't know 121 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: why the mic you seem like you were you felt 122 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: a little more strongly. What I don't like it's not 123 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: that I know where this, what this, what's happening in 124 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: this case? Who am I to I'm not investigating it. 125 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: What I don't like in general is this has This 126 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: is not exclusive to this, This is widespread over a decade. 127 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: It's just sometimes what I feel as hubris coming from 128 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: Belichick and the Patriots that it's like and some of 129 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: their fans that it's just laugh it off. You know, 130 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: we'll roll right past this, and it's like, okay, you 131 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: probably will, but sometimes it's not the easiest team to 132 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: to root for on that front. Well, No, they play 133 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: the villain roll. I mean they always have, even if 134 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: the Spygate controversy of course, and then now this, and 135 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: there's been other things. They've always been the villain because 136 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: of Belichick essentially, and I love Belichick, though, I mean 137 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: I respect bell to get's not it. It's different than 138 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: me also saying that I think it's a huge deal. 139 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: I just think their response to it at times gets 140 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: out of my skin. Well, let's go to West disagrees. 141 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: He's gonna I can see it in his face. He's 142 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: burning red. He can't stand any of it. I don't 143 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: care for this story at all. I I mean, we're 144 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: asked to care about the integrity of the game two 145 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: weeks after the best catch in the postseason was rolled 146 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: in non catch because nobody knows what a catches in 147 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: the NFL. So forgive me if I don't really care 148 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: about the integrity of the game when you're still throwing 149 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: a pigskin approlate spherroid, whether it's twelve point five or 150 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: ten point five p s. I I don't think has 151 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: that much of an outcome on the game. And their 152 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl opponent has the most p e D suspensions 153 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: is two thousand and ten. So if we're talking about 154 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: the integrity of the game, I mean, I guess there's 155 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: a lot of things that you can get into with integrity. Again. 156 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: I mean, the Cowboys aything to do with the Seahawks, though, 157 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: but the Cowboys and the Redskins get fined and they 158 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: lose draft picks for taking advantage of the salary cap 159 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: system for a while, Like you know, the Browns are 160 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: being investigated right now. No one's comparing the Browns thing 161 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: to this, and that just seemed like it was a 162 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: meddlesome owner perhaps or someone on the franchise, you know, 163 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: doing something that isn't allowed at Mike Petton talked about 164 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: it today. No one's pending attention that. But because it's 165 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl team and because there's just some sort 166 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: of appeal to it, this story has crossed over into 167 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: its leading the nightly news. And like CNN's past, it's 168 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: not Belichick didn't happen in a complete vacuum here. It's 169 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: because wait a minute, to the average fan, oh wait, 170 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: this is Belichick again. Well, I think that's a big 171 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: part of it. And I guess the way I look 172 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: at that is soccer and football both started with a 173 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: pigs bladder. Since like where this is going, well, since 174 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: the middle half of the nineteenth century, the evolution of 175 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: soccer has been to make it every generation an easier 176 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: ball to kick. The evolution of football is demitt to 177 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: make it every generation an easier ball to throw. So 178 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: at this point time we're supposed to of the easiest 179 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: ball to throw possible. So it doesn't bother me that 180 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: Tom Brady wants the easiest possible ball to throw. It 181 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: just doesn't bother me. I mean, I can see why 182 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: it bothers other people, but yeah, and that's that's totally fair. 183 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: But I mean, I guess the reason that the NFL 184 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: is investigating that there is a boundary for the how 185 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: much it can be inflated and it was drastically below it. 186 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: That so that doesn't bother you do, but you do 187 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: understand that they're breaking or that's not who. We don't 188 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: even know if they Let's just say it happened by nature, right, 189 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: Just say it happened. No, no, let's not attach any 190 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: person to it. But it was outside of the rules. 191 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: The way the balls were was Tom Brady. I would 192 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: try to get the ball the easiest one to throw possible. 193 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: And whatever the equipment team does that I don't know about, 194 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: that's fine with me. And I think Andy Dalton likes 195 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: a warm ball. Some quarterbacks like protruding laces, and Rogers 196 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: likes it pumped up as much as possible. And if 197 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: you if I can wash my hands of it and 198 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: just get the easiest ball to throw possible, that's what 199 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: I do. Was a quarterback in tom Brady. Actually, right 200 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: now we have our our old producer, the gold standard 201 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: zack behind the mic. I just have to say welcome. 202 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: And since since Chris brought up this soccer issue, I 203 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: just thought, you know, you could chime in with your expertise. 204 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Well, now I think Chris Chris 205 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: at the nail on the head right there. That was fantastic. Um, No, 206 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying this. Don't let me dilute the conversation. Well, 207 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: one of the things that stuck out to me with 208 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: the Brady press conference was just that how uncomfortably he was. 209 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: That was one of the things I took from it. Um. 210 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: The fact that he said the NFL had not contacted 211 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: him on Thursday was surprising to me, and to me 212 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: it indicated that this issue isn't gonna be wrapped up 213 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: anytime soon. In case you thought it was, I didn't 214 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 1: particularly think it was. But it's gonna be an issue. 215 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: I think that's obviously talked about a ton all Super 216 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: Bowl week and I don't know if we're gonna get 217 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: a lot of clarity from the league. I think we'll 218 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: hear something from the league this week. But but that 219 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: stuck out to me, and the fact that he was 220 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: he looked a little rattled. I don't feel like it 221 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: looked rattled. I mean, can itidering how he normally looks 222 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: extremely composed. I'm not seeing any he cried tears, but 223 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: you know when you're about to cry, and like his 224 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: eyes got red and his face started to get flushed 225 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: and his voice cracked a little, which we've seen with 226 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: Brady before. That happened a couple of times. I don't 227 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: know why. Maybe he's just nerved ten times more pressing 228 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: there because there why because it deflate gate gobsy. This 229 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: is a real thing, gentlemen. Wow, sneak attack, we got hands. 230 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: I've listened to you guys the last ten minutes talk 231 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: about this, and I'm specifically Greg and Lett. I haven't 232 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: said anything yet. I have been waiting to chime in. 233 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: This is a real thing right now that we're dealing with, 234 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: and it's an enormous distraction and there there could be 235 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: some very real consequences. And I think the Patriots really 236 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: kicked the hornets nest here and uh it's good. Good 237 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: lead to the Patriots losing this game. This is a 238 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: real thing that can't be ignored. But I think it's 239 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: it's a huge issue when they've got a hundred. Even 240 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: Tom Brady went out of his way to say this 241 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: is very serious. Is a very serious issue, and the 242 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: way that they're addressing it indicates it serious. The people 243 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: in the room and how much he was rattled indicates 244 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: his serious. I look at it the other way though, 245 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: as a as a Patriots fan who's not getting too 246 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: caught up in the particulars of it, just because it 247 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: doesn't get me fired up too much one way or another. 248 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: That's just I don't know. You like to say, like 249 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: when you're downstairs, you were in a certain way, like 250 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: you're not making a big deal of it downstack. I'm 251 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: not how you feel that way, and I totally understand it. 252 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: I'm putting myself in your shoes as a Patriots in 253 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: and all Patriots. Then you want this to go away. No, 254 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: you don't want this chasing your team all week. You 255 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: don't want it to be hanging over the legacy of 256 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: the team. I don't care about the legacy. It's gonna 257 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: hang over them next week. My immediate reaction, and it 258 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: was to Dave Damna check yesterday when you were sitting 259 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: around and I said it Monday to my friends who 260 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: most of the Patriots fans are freaking out. They don't 261 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: want this, they hate this. Uh was that I think 262 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: they'll react, well, do it if if, if you're gonna 263 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: take anything from you know, thinking it might affect the 264 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: game or not. I just think back to how they 265 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: came out after spy Gate and played the best six 266 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: weeks of football they've ever played in their entire lives. 267 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: And not that you need extra motivation for the Super Bowl, 268 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: but as a guy that's been a fan of this 269 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: team for a long time, I wouldn't surprise me if 270 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: they come out and they play great after all this 271 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: that that's more how I would expect that. I mean, 272 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: they're playing I don't remember that. I'm sure there are 273 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: a lot of tomato cans when they started destroying everyone. 274 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: This is a totally different situation, right, I mean, I 275 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: have worries that they even on their best day, if 276 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: the Seahawks play their best, maybe the Seahawks are just 277 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: a better team. But I think the way that this 278 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: team has responded to issues in the past, I think 279 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: just from a football fan in a in a Patriots 280 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: fan perspective, I was thinking, I kind of like this. 281 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: I didn't like the fact that they were that they're 282 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: now favored in some places in the game. A lot 283 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: of people, I think are gonna be taking the Patriots 284 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: in this game. So I do kind of like the 285 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: fact that they've got this little extra I quite know 286 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: how you like it is behind the glass, by the way, 287 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: it is Zach the gold standard, behind the last right now, Hey, 288 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: what Gulton? What is going on? TV? Sets this whole 289 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: thing up with me? He doesn't tell him he's not 290 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: gonna be there, doesn't provide any pop. He's supposed to 291 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: be like my wrestling manager there classic you just got 292 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: Paul Haymond Man, what are what are your what are 293 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: your other hot takes? Since we have you on? Did 294 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: you watch the Brady and Belichick pressers? Yeah, I watched. 295 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: I watched the ends that I've been tracking this because 296 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: this is a major story and I don't know, I 297 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: think and I got the same feeling watching Brady that 298 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: he was It seemed like he was on the verge 299 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: of getting emotional, which to me like reminded me of 300 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: Johnny Lawrence and Karate Kid being told by the evil 301 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: sense of what to do and then he kind of 302 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: realizes it and realizes he's done wrong. And now he's 303 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: caught in the middle of something that's bigger than him. 304 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: I think Tommy's tied into this, and I think it's 305 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: gonna hurt him if if the story gets any bigger. 306 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: And I really do I know you say you don't 307 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: think the you don't think this is something that's that's 308 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: gonna be taken care of quickly. I wonder, I don't know, 309 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: because again, this is now poor Roger Goodell. It has 310 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: just been a bad year for him. I don't think 311 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: we have to say poor Roger Goodell. Yeah, even though 312 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: he's these are boss's boss's boss's boss's boss. I mean, 313 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: I'm not crying any tears. All right, here we go. 314 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell has been a bad year for him, and uh, 315 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: I don't know he's gonna be He's gonna be buried 316 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: by this as well. He has the press conference every 317 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: year before the Super Bowl. Uh, and you know how 318 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: that's going to turn out a media day and then 319 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: this is gonna be this story. The longer that it 320 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: gets dragged out without any resolution, I guess I'm the 321 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: only one who thinks it's just an incredibly silly story. 322 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: And that the best tweet of the day was from 323 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel, who just noted that fifty college educated adults 324 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: are asking a grown man if he took air out 325 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: of a ball. Well, that is I think you can 326 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: believe that it's a story worth um attention, which I 327 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: do and still feel like that is totally true. There 328 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: is an element of comedy and farcet to at all. 329 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: It's like it's a topic that's taken very very seriously 330 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: by a lot of people and I am stand why right, 331 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: And it's about deflated balls, and it's about a very minor, 332 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: relatively like arcane rules that no one ever knew about. 333 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: But it's a it's a big national story, and it 334 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: did feel like, uh like at times right afterwards, you know, 335 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: they go to CNN. They're talking to Rick Santorum on 336 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: one news channel for his comments on the balls, and 337 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: at one point a questioner asked, like, what about all 338 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: the kids that see you as a hero, Tom Brady? 339 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: And there is an element to it that feels like 340 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: it's an Onion sports article. Am I am? I wrong? 341 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: I mean it feels like so surrenal. I think it's 342 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: at its heart it's a silly matter in terms of 343 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: what it meant to that game. But I do think 344 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: that all of us, so everyone on the around the 345 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: NFL team, uh, the New England Patriots, other people in 346 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: the media, underestimated this story's ability to take off the 347 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: way it has. And maybe we shouldn't have been surprised 348 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: because it was the week heading into the Super Bowl 349 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: and it had like this weird, kind of quirky angle 350 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: to it, and it had all this Patriots achievers backstory 351 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: to it. So you know, it's kind of annoying because 352 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: it is going to be a major storyline throughout up 353 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: until Sunday's game. There's no way to hide from hide 354 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: from it anymore, and this is just a major story. 355 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: He was crazy as it is. This is why Greg 356 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: attached me to the Patriots. I'm learning today Greg actually 357 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: organized this controversy like two weeks ago. I do. I 358 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: like it because Mark has fired up about this issue. 359 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: West clearly doesn't care at all. So I'm glad that Mark. 360 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna release the hounds. He's going to get to 361 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: the bottom of this. By the end of this the 362 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: world's gonna know Mark Sesler as the Woodward and the 363 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: Bernstein the flight Gate. Here's what I told go ahead. 364 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: I was hoping that was gonna be spitting fire about this. 365 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: I know, I thought you were. He was downstairs, I said. 366 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: The thing that bothers me the most. I'm not sitting 367 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: here thinking that that ball changed the way that the 368 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: Cults game went out. What bothers me, and what's bothered 369 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: me for some time is the hubrists of the Patriots organization, 370 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: which I sense at various times, and it's like your 371 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: reaction can be. And I actually like Belichick, but there's 372 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: times where it's like, Oh, he's so smart, but there's 373 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: other time he's Wait, he's just he's just kind of 374 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: a jerk to people. Bottom line, I just feel that 375 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: he is, and like, I think it's in that sentiment. Well, 376 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: and I think that there's there's something about the Patriots 377 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: that they put themselves in this spotlight because of their 378 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: past actions. This didn't just happen now. People already felt 379 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: that New England was always looking for an edge, like 380 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: any football team, but they got nailed for it before, right, 381 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: and they were dumb enough for all this to happen. 382 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: And it's not about the crime. Sometimes it's about who 383 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: gets noticed, Like what, what is a big deal when 384 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: you mess up at work. It's not really the level 385 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: of something that you messed up. It's just who above 386 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: you happens to notice it that gets fired up about it. Dan, 387 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: you know who's not going to get noticed. The ball 388 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: boy found along the mass Turnpike. Oh yeah, he's a 389 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: Sally on the mass Pike will never be seen again. 390 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: But and I know you guys gonna move on and 391 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump off, and I'm just the other thing 392 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: is like the mechanics of how the balls got deflated. 393 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: It just to me, it was like if that if 394 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: they actually like switch balls out and they actually snuck 395 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: away with them and deflated them two pounds and then 396 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: replaced them, It's like, what the hell is Bill Belichick 397 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: doing and thinking, to me, that's that's the biggest thing 398 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: that this guy. It seems like that's how he's gonna 399 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: be remembered as this Bud Kilmer will do anything to 400 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: win guy when he necessarily didn't have to be that 401 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: guy too smarter than everyone in the first place. Well, 402 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: Belichick came out so strong with his statement, and other 403 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: coaches that have come out, I I do put more 404 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: stock into what Belichick said today that to me, it 405 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: does seem like it's probably a quarterback and the equipment 406 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: managers working together on the balls in general, and and 407 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: every head coach that's talked about it, um were was 408 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: pretty incredulous that that any coach could be involved in 409 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: that process. And every quarterback says the same thing, and 410 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: they said, we're intimately involved in it. So to me, 411 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: it probably it does seem like in the end, it's 412 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: gonna fall more on Brady and that that's going to 413 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: be the conversation more than it's gonna fall on some 414 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: you know, some person we've never heard of who who 415 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,119 Speaker 1: did spygate fall on some videographer that essentially now is 416 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: working at a CVS and Central Oklahoma. Well, Belichick did 417 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: pay the biggest fine in NFL history, And all right, 418 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: see it, Dad Belichick did pay what fiousand dollars and 419 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: they gave up a first round pick. I think that 420 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: was the biggest fine in NFL history. And we'll see 421 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: the point I was making about which people notice it 422 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: notice it from above. In this case, the American public 423 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: is the above, and the NFL has to be so 424 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: disappointed and furious or whatever, no matter what they think 425 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: of this particular issue, that This is the national story 426 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: now going into the Super Bowl, especially that the year 427 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: they've had. All Right, let's move move on. Let's talk 428 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: a little football, and let's talk about a guy we 429 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: spoke about during our Coaching Awards, Adam Gaze. He has 430 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: been hired as the Bears offensive coordinator. Chris Westling, what 431 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: do you think of this? Higher It's interesting than that 432 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: Gaze is rejoining Fox. But I guess what I've taken 433 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: out of the last two weeks from the Bears. They 434 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: won't answer the question, but I I looked at it 435 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: in week sixteen that Jay Cutler was gone, and now 436 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: I feel like they have no choice but to keep 437 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: him with a new regime and see what Adam Gays 438 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: can do with him. There's just not enough quarterbacks available 439 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: that you can move on from a guy with Jay 440 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: Cutler's talent. I mean, if the Bengals have come to 441 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: the conclusion, which is not surprising because they're they're refused 442 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: to move on from what is, you know, mediocre, Essentially, 443 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 1: they're gonna stick with Andy Dolton. Basically, they just they 444 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: don't know where else to go this offseason, especially there's 445 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: no free agents. The draft looks like an absolute black 446 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: hole for quarterbacks. So yeah, you're stuck with Cutler. I 447 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: guess the when they remove the entire coaching staff in 448 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: GM that helped Cutler's chances of staying enormously because of 449 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: the way that his contract is structured. You're essentially paying money, 450 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: huge money to get rid of him. What you're only 451 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: gonna do if you if you've made this evaluation that 452 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: this is not our guy, if if it's more of 453 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: a pain to get rid of them than it is 454 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: to keep them. And you're a new head coach and 455 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: you're a new coordinator and a new GM and you 456 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: probably think, well, let's give him one year and then 457 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: move on after that. But but I like this entire 458 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: Bear staff we gave. We gave Fandio the best coaching Now. Oh, 459 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I find it interesting that 460 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: John Fox already has a better coaching staff in Chicago 461 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: than he did in Denver when he went to the 462 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I think Foio is a considerably better defensive 463 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: coordinator than Jack Della. It's a big upgrade. I mean, 464 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: the talent is obviously a huge down grade, and that's 465 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: gonna be hard for Chicago. I think in one offseason too. 466 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know I say that, but then 467 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: I think about the Cowboys because we looked at the 468 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 1: Cowboys five months ago and thought I thought they were 469 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: a total train wreck and with a lot of no names. Frankly, 470 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: they pulled off a big season, but they did it 471 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: with a top three offense. So I think you needed 472 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,239 Speaker 1: another side of the ball that that can carry you, 473 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 1: and we don't know if they have it, but they 474 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: do have talent. The Bears have the the offense, the 475 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: talent on all fense that could that has that potential. 476 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: I don't know about the I think they do outside 477 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: of the quarterback. I just don't trust Color. I just 478 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: think he's a depressed If you're a Bears fan, that's 479 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: a depressing situation because of him. I I give John 480 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: Fox over the years some grief that in terms of 481 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: his game management and that he doesn't feel like a coach. 482 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: That makes a huge difference. But this is one reason 483 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: why you hire John Fox is that he has been 484 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: around the league so long. He's good at all the 485 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: organizational parts of the job. He's not trying to call 486 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: the plays on the defense, and like Wesselyn said, I 487 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: don't know if any other head coach could put together 488 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: a staff this good immediately as a new coach. And 489 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: John fox just kind of lines about boom boom boom, 490 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: and that's that's why you hire a guy like John 491 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: Foxes settled things down, all right. Let's move on to 492 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: announcement the NFL made this morning about some early morning 493 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: games in London in the coming year. All three London 494 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: games this year will start at nine thirty am Eastern Time. 495 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: That means six thirty am pass ifect time. Chris Westling, 496 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: thank you for volunteering to cover all three of those games. Well, 497 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: I think it depends on what I did the night before. 498 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: I loved covering the one this year. I thought it 499 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: was it just was. It was. It was fun coming 500 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: in at six thirty in the morning. They're like six 501 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: people in the whole room. I forgot there was a 502 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: game that day. West West now over when you go 503 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: now that you're biking to work the six thirty am shifts, 504 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: they are a little trickier too. They are a little 505 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: it's harder to motivate yourself for half an hour bike 506 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: ride into work when you're just waking up at five o'clock. 507 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: Well as the London expert Zack. I feel like we 508 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: gotta get your your hat take on this, well more 509 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: as an American fan, who's you know, relatively casual but joining. 510 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: Do you like the quadruple header? I love it? Do 511 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: you like the morning games? Yeah? Well, I think back 512 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: fundly and maybe this is just fueled by nostalgia, but 513 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: I think back to uh the NBA on NBC, for instance, 514 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: growing up, when they used to play four basketball games 515 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: in a day. You'd wake up, have having morning cereal. 516 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: By the time you were having dinner, you're still watching basketball. 517 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: Those great help me out. Nine thirty Eastern is four 518 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: thirty eastern London time, two thirty way off a couple 519 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: of hours. It was close, way off. No, maybe i'd 520 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: be if I showed up at the time and the 521 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: middle of the third quarter. I guess you were let 522 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: yourself off the hook here. You were like three years 523 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: old when you lived in England. I'm an adult, I 524 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: should know more about time. I love I love this 525 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: because I love that game to anything that's different. I 526 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: like that was a great game too. Yeah, that was 527 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: the end. I woke up early, I didn't come in. 528 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: I watched that. I watched the first half at home 529 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: and then and then I came in. But I think 530 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: the NFL hit on something here because it gives these 531 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: London games an identity to that. It's just something a 532 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: little different. The NFL is always trying to create new properties, 533 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: and now it's the new property is Hey, we've got 534 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: a quadruple header, We've got a really early game, and 535 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: now people remember and watch the London games compared to 536 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: some you know, Patriots Raiders blood bath that you know 537 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: only ten percent of the country is watching. Well, they've 538 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: got that, you know, nice little tag that the marketing 539 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: department can use to wake up with whimbley or He's right, 540 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to at Before we get to that, 541 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: we have to play, of course, the Pro Bowl and 542 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But the Pro Bowl Draft happened this week. 543 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: I know you guys were excited about it. The Pro 544 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: Bowl is coming up. Andrew Luck was the number one 545 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: overall pick last year. Come on, we've been We've written 546 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: many Dan Dan takes offense because he wrote a live 547 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: blog one of the best things ever written on the 548 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: Around the League page. Yes, it was very entertaining last 549 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: year and you could you could find it. This was 550 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: last year's draft. This year, he just had some takeaways, 551 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: but I you know, I suggest all of our listeners 552 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: go check it out. Well, his takeaways were so uh, 553 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 1: you know, precise and cutting last year, and they were 554 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: hilarious that, let's be honest, Dan was asked to tone 555 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: it down a little this year because we're trying to 556 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: promote this event as some sort of heat seeking football game. Well, 557 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: I would take Andrew Luck with the number one overall pick, 558 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: So I do think that that was a smart choice. 559 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I think the Pro Bowl is 560 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: about fun and who's more fun to watched and look 561 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: at by this stuff? Well, I mean, honestly, we kind 562 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: of rip on the Pro Bowl a little bit, but 563 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: it's not geared for us. It's gared for ten year 564 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: olds and twelve year olds. Well, and I don't think 565 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck would have gone first overall if a lot 566 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: of the players that said they were going to play 567 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: would have. Because you had you had Chris Carter, Luck 568 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: would be my number one over up pick. I think 569 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: he'd be rs necessarily potentially, but Beckham went very early 570 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: to he went fifth, but you had IRV and I 571 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: think who wanted Dez Bryant. I mean you talked. They 572 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: talked about this for a month. It's like they had 573 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: their guys and half their guys didn't show up. I 574 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: like that what they're trying to do with the Pro Bowl, 575 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: and people do watch the po probo I mean more 576 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: people watch the Pro Bowl than baseball postseason games, and 577 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: certainly any of that wasn't kind of it. I remember 578 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: when I was ten or twelve, and I was excited 579 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: to watch it, and I think same here. Ten or 580 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: twelve year olds now are excited to watch it. But 581 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean for people like us who follow real football 582 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: all year, it's not like high on our radar. The 583 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: one thing they need to change, though, is calling the 584 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: team by the name tam of the captain Carter and 585 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: Irv and Chris Carter and Michael Ever, because when you 586 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: hit the score button on NFL dot com or ESPN 587 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: dot com, suddenly an image comes up that goes, that's 588 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 1: Irvin versus Carter, as like this, that's this week's scoreboard, 589 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: and that's I don't know what, there's something wrong with that? 590 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: What would you like, I don't know, like East versus 591 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: where I don't know, you gotta come up with something, 592 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: something that makes more sense than that. You can't do 593 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: that every year. UM, let's let's keep moving. If Dan 594 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: was here, that news would be over twenty five minutes ago. 595 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: The Sants ownership situation UH came up in the news 596 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: this week and it was a surprise and we won't 597 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: linger on this one, but Tom Benson, the Saints owner, 598 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: announced that he will not be leaving the team as 599 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: expected UH to his granddaughter uh Rita le Blank Benson 600 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: and her family and instead is now gonna leave it 601 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 1: to his wife, UM, who's even married to for ten years. 602 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, any Orleans, this is a massive story. 603 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: When you saw this, what were your thoughts? I thought 604 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: of Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil. It's 605 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: like a John Brent novel, some kind of Southern Gothic 606 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: drama where it's all playing out in Savannah. Right that 607 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: was in Savannah, but New Orleans, I mean same same 608 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: type of atmosphere as New Orleans. It is great stuff 609 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: to read, even though you wouldn't want to be part 610 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: of that family right now, it sounds like a ten 611 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: part mini series on HBO or Showtime. Like the drama 612 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: of it all, We're not going to get into all 613 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: the details here, but if you go to NOLA dot 614 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: com or some of the other local papers, it is 615 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: really there's some wacky side details. Well, it's just it's 616 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: just it's a fascinating story. I mean, if you're into 617 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: family and power and owning teams and it's you almost 618 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: couldn't write it. And I don't know, the flight gate 619 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: is really interesting. I get it for most people. But 620 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: isn't this like this isn't going to get nearly the 621 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: attention and it shouldn't. I understand why it's not a 622 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: national story, But isn't this like more compelling, like novel 623 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: worthy type of story. Yeah, I mean, especially if we 624 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: could give the listeners details as to what it was about. 625 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: All Right, Lastly, we'll wrap up with the Browns. John D. 626 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: Philippo Higher this week offensive coordinator, he mentioned in his 627 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: opening press conference at the starting quarterback for the Browns 628 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: next year might not be in the building yet. Do 629 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: you like this higher? Mr? Seiler? Well, I mean, you know, 630 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: what do we know? I like him out of the gate. 631 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm allowed a touch of optimism every here 632 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: and every now and again, and I think that he's 633 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: here's the thing the flip side would have been if 634 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: you're a Browns fan watching them go get Matt Kavanaugh, 635 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: who is you know, absolute beyond the pale guy that 636 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: is not going to generate an excitement. They're going with 637 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: a young guy that a lot of you know. Adam 638 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: Kaplan tweeted from the Senior Bowl that everyone was raving 639 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: about him, saying it was a home run higher. Well, 640 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: it's only a home run higher starting in September. We 641 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: don't know anything till then, so I'm gonna hold judgment. 642 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: But I wish him luck, and I think I'm just 643 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: glad to hear them ay that the quarterback situation is 644 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: not being handed to anyone, because it shouldn't. They don't 645 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: have a starting quarterback right now. It is grim. I 646 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: think what's gonna be real hard for him and Petton 647 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: is that they got out to a nice start in 648 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: a nice story this past season. I don't think I 649 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: think they could have a flipped record. That's six and 650 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: three could be three and six. You play the NFC West, 651 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: A lot of the schedule is tougher, and you just 652 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: don't have Kyle Shanahan is not an easy got to 653 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: make up for, and a lot of things went right 654 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: for Cleveland. That's not gonna happen two years in a 655 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: row necessarily. Have you been able to develop a sense 656 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: of whether the Philippo or Greg Olsen deserved more of 657 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: the credit for developing Derek Carr. I mean, Olsen really 658 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: really gushed on both him and Greg Knapp, the former 659 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: coordinator just said he's such a hard worker. And Petton 660 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: said that when there was that rift between the Jets, 661 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: Jets defense and offense. We read about that in Collision 662 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: Low Crossers that he said he was the only defensive 663 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: coach or offensive coach to Flippo that's light would be 664 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: on when the defense huddled and went home, that ever 665 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: anyone else. So I liked I think articulate. He is 666 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: a hard worker. They said, he pushes. He pushed car 667 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 1: very hard, and he pushes his quarterbacks and keeps them accountable. 668 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: That I think that Shanahan probably did the same thing. 669 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: But what I'm hearing from various coaches and the way 670 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: that are in the stories out there seem good. But 671 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: if this is the time of year where every assistant 672 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: higher looks like absolute spun gold, so let's wait and see. 673 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: He also said he was going to talk to Brian 674 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: Hoyer this week, which I found interesting. I know he's 675 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: under contract, but I do get the feeling there's more 676 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: of a chance of Hoyer being back there than we 677 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: probably would have thought in the middle of the center, 678 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: and maybe from Hoyer's angle too, where you realize you're 679 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: not going to be a starter for another team. Okay, 680 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: so that's the news. Got a good talk about Patrioch Gate, 681 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean, or whatever we're calling it now. I'm glad 682 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: they have called in there. That was fun. But let's 683 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: move on to something even more fun, talking a little 684 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: football and breaking out a game that we like to 685 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: call who do You Trust? Alright, so the game is 686 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: pretty obvious. Does it really need any explanation? No, it's 687 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: self explaining to me. What was the thing last show 688 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: that really didn't need explanation? Uh Dan telling people about 689 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: I forget this is great podcast stuff. I'm glad I 690 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: brought it up. All right, Who do you Trust? Gold Stander? 691 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: You know what to trim out of this show? Absolutely, 692 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: this won't be in you try to make us look 693 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: good TV. I feel like sometimes he's, you know, he's 694 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: tried to make us look like the Ogres and idiots 695 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: that we truly are Get out of here. You guys 696 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: are sweethearts alright. For the game, Who do you trust 697 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: dan Quinn or Josh McDaniels cooking up a championship winning 698 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: game plan? I trust dan Quinn because of what he 699 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: did to the Broncos last year. He unfer old a masterpiece. 700 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: And I remember writing an article on this with an 701 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: interview with Hall of Famer Mike Haines outlining exactly what 702 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,959 Speaker 1: the Seahawks did. And uh, Josh McDaniels, I think you 703 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: never know how much of it is him or how 704 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: much of his Belichick. I didn't like watching Indianapolis let 705 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: the Patriots do their eligible play and just roll right 706 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: into the end zone with it like they they saw 707 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: that happen before and didn't find a way to to 708 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: to log it, figure out how to stop and be 709 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: ready for it. That was bad coaching in my book. 710 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: The Seahawks are not that team, and they have much 711 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: more talent on the defense that's gonna give you a 712 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: a plus secondary if everyone's healthy and they're all they're healthy. 713 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: I mean we've seen down the stretch they're the best 714 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: defense in football. And yeah, I I think with West 715 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: two when you give them two weeks to prepare. Everyone 716 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: says that about Belichick, but Quinn All last year during 717 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, said I am going to find a 718 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: way to get to Peyton Manning rattle them early. They 719 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: laid it right on the table and said this is 720 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do, and they did it. The quarterback 721 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: must go down and must go down hard, right, And 722 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: the weaknesses of Brady and Manning aren't aren't so different. 723 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: Brady is not doing well throwing the ball down the field. 724 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: Brady can get rapped, specially a fully inflated one. Greig 725 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: Le be honest, that's gonna cause tremendous problem. Imagine how 726 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: well he'll do, uh yeah, how poorly he'll do with that. 727 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: And McDaniels I think deserves a little more credit probably 728 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: than people give them, just because their offenses have been 729 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: much better when he's been the coordinator, and they get 730 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: a lot of credit for changing up what they do 731 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: week to week. And I do think that's more McDaniels 732 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: than anyone else. But he also can get almost inside 733 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,919 Speaker 1: his own head a little bit sometimes and he'll try 734 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: to cook up something almost trying to be too smart 735 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: and they'll get away from just shocking. I think he's 736 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: an upgrade over case. I think he's gonna give Seattle 737 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: more troubled engaged it. I guess my point here is 738 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: that everyone assumes the coaching advantage is to New England 739 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick. But Seattle's got great coaching with Pete 740 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: Carroll and Dan Quinn for coaching defense. I mean they're 741 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: better coaches, at least by their track record over the 742 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: last five years, certainly than than Bill Belichick. All Right, 743 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: who do you trust Marshawn Lynch having a legend defining 744 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: game or Rob Gronkowski having a legend defining game. Oh 745 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: that's a good question. You know. If this was in 746 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: a vacuum, I go with Gronkowski because he's the best 747 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: effort at his position. Marshawn Lynch is not. But Gronkowski 748 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: has to face a generationally great defense. Marshawn Lynch has 749 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: to face a defense that can be run on in times. 750 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: So I think I'll go with I trust Lynch to 751 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: have a defining game. Yeah, in this game. I mean Lynch, 752 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: really they've used him well down the stretch. I think 753 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: that's starting with that Oakland Giants. Back to back tilt 754 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: there that Seattle had where he had six touchdowns in 755 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 1: two games. He just has been hot and making difference 756 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: making plays every week. He looked fantastic. I loved last 757 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: week when they were down sixteen nothing, they were just 758 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: getting their way back in the game. He refused to 759 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: stop running. He was plowing through Green Bay guys. Took 760 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: seven guys to get him down a couple of big 761 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: first downs. That's you know, listen to. England's defense has 762 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: some strong points. I like their secondary, but run stopping 763 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 1: is not gonna do it. Let me predict Greg's answer here, Lynch, 764 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: because he will touch the ball twenty times, gronkowsk he 765 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: is reliant upon someone to get him the ball. Chris 766 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: Wesling is wrong because I'm putting on my Homer hat. 767 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: Of course I'm going. Gronkowski one of the greatest players 768 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: in Patriots history, one of the greatest tight ends in 769 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 1: NFL history. He's had a lot of great moments in 770 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: his NFL career, but he hasn't really had uh defining 771 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: playoff moment because he's been hurt in those playoffs and 772 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: he's the X factor. I think he's the best player 773 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 1: on the entire field. So I would just love to 774 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 1: see Rob Gronkowski kind of maybe doing like the James 775 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: Harrison play, except he's dragging four different Seattle Seahawks defenders 776 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: with him for forty straight yards for the winner to 777 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 1: say he has not hitoff. Yes, has some big playoffs, 778 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: has been out dancing moments after the Super bat. Oh. 779 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: One of the worst um moments as a fan slash 780 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: media member in my life was trying to go to 781 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: sleep after the two thousand and eleven season Super Bowl 782 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: and my hotel was right next to the Patriots team party. 783 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you walk from the stadium in the hotel. 784 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: You guys remember in Indianapolis or you do, Mark, the 785 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: hotel was just, you know, a ten minute walk from 786 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: the stadium, and right next to it is that minor 787 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: league baseball field. And that's where the Patriots had their party. 788 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: And you don't think that the losing team has a party, 789 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: but they still do. They still have the party. A 790 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: lot of players don't necessarily show up, but right exactly, 791 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: I mean it's for Robert Crafted there. I remember being 792 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,839 Speaker 1: the locker room Craft telling people was still having the part. 793 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean that's I was in the silent Losers locker room, 794 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: and that's what he was doing. Now. I could not 795 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: hear Rob Gronkowski breaking it down, you know, right next 796 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: to me. But I couldn't go to sleep because the 797 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: walls were very thin. It was right next to it. 798 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: And they're cranking music until three thirty. I wasn't done 799 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: writing until about and they're still cranking music and having 800 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 1: a good old time. And I'm thinking, you guys are 801 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,479 Speaker 1: never gonna win another Super Bowl, are you. I would 802 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: love in our situation, let's say West or I goes out, 803 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: writes a story, totally blows it, gets the reporting all wrong, 804 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: and you know we're an embarrassment on a national scene. 805 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: Just throw a giant party for us after work. That's 806 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: that's the equivalent when why are you throwing a party? 807 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: If you lost the super Bow, Marvel would come around 808 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: and say, yeah, we're still having the party. Yeah we're 809 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: gonna have it. We're gonna throw a giant party for 810 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: you down a cozy in, because this is how it works. 811 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: West getting bold mentioning the shadowy League figure by name there. 812 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: I like it, all right? Who do you trust? Uh? 813 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: This Seattle Seahawks fan base to show up after their 814 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: poor performance in the NFC Championship, or or the Patriots 815 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: fan base. This is pretty easy answer, right, I mean, 816 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: the Seahawks are, as much as you ripped on him 817 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: earlier in the week, is just another average fan. But 818 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I just said I don't want 819 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,919 Speaker 1: to hear that they're so special when you know there's 820 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: many great NFL fan bases. The Patriots are one of 821 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: those great NFL fan bases though, as you yourself have said, 822 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: I agree with you. One economic factor Seattle smaller city, 823 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: and if if if their dominance hasn't eat it as 824 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 1: many bandwagon followers as New England's has at this point, 825 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 1: there may be a lot of people that dished out 826 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: cash to go to last year's Super Bowl and they 827 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: just can't do it again. That's too, that's very logical. 828 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: But Seattle, Seattle in general, there's this is still new. 829 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: This is the same romance they were in last year. 830 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: This is still fresh and new. This is me throwing 831 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 1: a bone to the Seattle fan base after the slaughtered 832 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: me all week. Look relaxed. I mean all I was saying, 833 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: there's other of you guys have issues with other other 834 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 1: great fan base other but Seattle showed up last year 835 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: for sure. They seemed like they were everywhere in the 836 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: New York area. I mean also in the game Deenverhead 837 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: from one eighteen seconds in and nothing to cheer. The 838 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: Patriots fans, uh, are a mixed group. I would say 839 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: they did not show up for the last one in Phoenix, 840 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 1: and I'm guessing that was because it traveled. They showed 841 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 1: up much better um for the next Super Bowl after that, 842 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,359 Speaker 1: and they know they don't go to this one, there'll 843 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: be another one two years from now and will go 844 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: to that one and there in Patriots fans hate to 845 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: hear it, but at what growing up as a big 846 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: time sports fan, Red Sox fans really took pride and 847 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: how you know what we know when to cheer and 848 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: in Fenway is rock and compared to other baseball parks, 849 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: and it absolutely is and almost like look down on 850 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: most other baseball fan bases. Well for football, the Patriots 851 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: are kind of like those other fan bases there. It's 852 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: the football tradition hasn't been in New England as long 853 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 1: for fifty years, in high school football and college football, 854 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: not nearly as much as the franchises in the league. 855 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: Until parcels came in and sometimes that stadium is a 856 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 1: little too quiet, you know for my liking in big spots. 857 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: But that's just me, all right. Who do you trust, 858 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: Darrell Rivas or Richard Sherman. I've been to say Revis, 859 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: just because I don't know what Sherman's arm is gonna 860 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: be like if if they were both healthy. I don't 861 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 1: think anybody's played at Sherman's level over the last three years. 862 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: But if he's dragging his arm around out there, I 863 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: would have to say Revs. Yeah. I mean, you know, 864 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: a week from now, the answer could be Sherman. If 865 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: we find out that he's absolutely fine. He's he's practicing Sherman, 866 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: he's practicing fully. He's gonna be ready to go. The 867 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: only reason I both arms. He's practicing full. He says 868 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: no limitations. Earl Thomas sat out practice this week, so 869 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: that might be That concerns me because Sherman. If you 870 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: if Earl Thomas isn't healthy, that's gonna impact Sherman. So 871 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Western. With Revis, I hope, 872 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: I hope you're right. I think I trust Sherman a 873 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: little better. I think the fact they're both great, but 874 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: I think Sherman has been a better player this year. 875 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 1: Revus isn't quite as good as he was as his peak. 876 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: But I do hope it's a case like Gronkowski were revs. 877 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: This is an all time great player who's gonna get 878 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: his first and who knows maybe the only chance of 879 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: playing a Super Bowl against minus receiving next year. That's 880 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: a good point. It's like, what are you gonna do? 881 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 1: Shut down Luke Wilson all day? I guess that. I mean, 882 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 1: don't tell Doug bald when I called it be minus. 883 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: But that's not there. There. They got a lot of 884 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: strengths on that team. That's not the number one. This 885 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,359 Speaker 1: isn't a creative question at all. But who do you trust? 886 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson or Tom Brady? I think it's a fair one. 887 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: I don't know if I have an answer that's a 888 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: good well, that's a good not trust either. I'm gonna 889 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: trust both of I know, but you gotta trust one more. 890 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: That's the whole game. I'll give you my answer. I'll 891 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 1: trust Tom Brady more, even though in the Super Bowls lately, 892 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: I don't think they've been his best games necessarily or 893 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: even for instance, the playoffs, He's been a little up 894 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: and down. He didn't have a great first half against 895 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 1: Baltimore or Indianapolis. I'm still gonna trust Tom Brady more 896 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: because I think that Russell Wilson will face a tougher 897 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: matchup in terms of the coaching, and that it wouldn't 898 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,080 Speaker 1: surprise me if he starts seeing some ghosts and start 899 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: seeing some things that confuse him like he did in 900 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship. Russell Wilson's first six playoff games, I 901 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: believe are more impressive than Tom Brady's for six playoff games, 902 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: even though Brady had the three Super Bowl titles. But 903 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna say Brady because one of these 904 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: quarterbacks is in the discussion for the best quarterback of 905 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: all time and the other one is not. So I'll 906 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: go with the one who is. I mean, I think 907 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: we're if we're talking about this game, we're talking about 908 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 1: who do you trust to win just this game? Yeah? 909 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 1: And who to win? Not? I trust Brady is gonna 910 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,840 Speaker 1: have a nice game that they're gonna lose. He's got it. 911 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: It's who's gonna win? And and and I think that 912 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, like we know where you're well. I think 913 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: he has more around him. I think they have the 914 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: better defense, and they've got to run a running game. 915 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: I don't think Russell Wilson is gonna have to do 916 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: as much. I'm not gonna have to trust him to 917 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: do as much as Brady will in this game. So 918 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm going Russell Wilson. It's interesting because I think Brady 919 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: has made an art out of the one minute drill. 920 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: I think he's the best one minute drill and quarterback ever. 921 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: But Wilson's skill set, the Roger stall back like Big 922 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: Ben like skill set to extend plays, lends itself to 923 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: close games and playoff games more than any other skill set. Finally, 924 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: let's wrap up. Bring it back Tom Brady's comments on 925 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: deflated football or everyone else in the world's comments on 926 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: deflated football. Well, we'll hold on. Everyone else has includes 927 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: some wild stuff, and I don't even know what everyone 928 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: is everyone in the world, so I can't account for 929 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: more than what I've heard four or five people say. 930 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: So I'll go Brady. But Brady has a lot to 931 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: lose if he's found out to not be trustworthy here. 932 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: I believe I want to hope he is. I like 933 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I'll say Brady. I saw a tweet from 934 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 1: Jim Miller, former Bears quarterback, who says he's been in 935 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: the room before when Tom Brady has chosen footballs, and 936 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: he says, there's no way I believe that Brady would 937 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 1: purposely have them deflated below what they were supposed to be. Well, 938 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: and they were checked, right, I mean, not to get 939 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: back into it, but whatever Tom Brady did the night before, 940 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 1: it's not the issue. Right, they checked for the game. 941 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: Something happened. I think there is plausible deny, but I 942 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 1: think it's plausible that the equipment people just know how 943 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: Brady likes the footballs, and maybe they're acting on their own. 944 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: Greg went Brady verse the Earth, and the Earth has 945 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 1: a lot of nonsense going on, So I'm not going 946 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: with a lot of conspiracy theories on Earth. All right, 947 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: Let's wrap up with uh thought and in a conversation 948 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: with a man who's usually in a haunted house, but 949 00:45:54,840 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 1: this week he's in a haunted city, and that is Mobile, Alabama, 950 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: and that's where the Senior Ball is happening. Connor, is 951 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: it true that other things are happening in the NFL 952 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 1: world other than discussions about deflations of football. It's very true. 953 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: Al though I don't know how faunted Mobile is. I 954 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: haven't really gotten a chance to explore the dark side 955 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: of Alabama yet. I guess I'm thinking really more Savannah 956 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: or New Orleans, those kind of towns. They seem kind 957 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: of haunted. I've never actually been to Mobile. Maybe since 958 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,439 Speaker 1: I'm here with Chase Goodbread, the ghosts don't come after 959 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: because he's an Alabama native. So maybe that's what you 960 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: know they know, not from what I know. The best 961 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: name in the NFL media news group, Chase Goodbread, that 962 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 1: guy best hair too. Sounds like a third string quarterback 963 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: of Alabama. All right, Connor, we haven't really been focused 964 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 1: on the Senior Bowl this week. We only have a 965 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: couple of minutes to talk to you to give us. 966 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,799 Speaker 1: Give us one or maybe we'll get into three. But 967 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: give us your first big takeaway from the week. Well, um, 968 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, I think, and it's kind of what I 969 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: wrote today, is I think that all these general managers, 970 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: especially the ones that have the top ten picks, are 971 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: scared to death to draft one of these two quarterbacks. 972 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: And you know, neither of them were here working out, 973 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: and it didn't make it better that, you know, Hunley 974 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: from U C. L A might be your next best option, 975 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't here, and then you're left with 976 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: kind of the bright petties of the world, the blake stems, 977 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: and they didn't blow anybody away down here. So I 978 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: think it's just a really scary time if you're a 979 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,399 Speaker 1: first time GM or you're a gem on the way out. 980 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: That's that's looking for a quarterback right now? All right, Well, 981 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: by the way, just to give you an update, Greg 982 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: had to step away. A shadow leaf League figure just 983 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: pulled him out of the room. Not sure what that's about. 984 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: Gesticulation going on there is well a question for you, Connor. 985 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: You know you're down there, you're talking, You're seeing a 986 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: lot of you know, general managers, scouts, coaches. Come on, 987 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: give us some give us a what's a whisper? Give 988 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: us something juicy that's going on that you're hearing at 989 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: the bars out at night. Um, I would say probably 990 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: you know the juiciest thing again, Uh, you know it 991 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: all centers right now. I mean all the conversation really 992 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 1: is focused around James and and the funniest thing is 993 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: if you listen to the scouts or coaches that are 994 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: even preparing to even to dig into this. I mean 995 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,279 Speaker 1: a lot of them are feeling like it's not it's 996 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 1: not a one man job. I mean, you can't just 997 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 1: have one scout, two scouts in that. This is gonna 998 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: be h This is gonna take an entire department of 999 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,399 Speaker 1: an organization to figure this guy out. I mean, that's 1000 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 1: how worried everybody is about something coming out after the draft, 1001 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: something coming out you know, in the months after the draft, 1002 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: something happening after you pick them. So I think that 1003 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: that's what a lot of the big focus is right now. 1004 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,239 Speaker 1: It's it's it's really interesting. I mean, let's let's see 1005 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 1: have the Saints kind of you know, just hearing a 1006 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: lot of interesting things about them just restructuring their organization 1007 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 1: on the fly and sort of a crazy way. But well, yeah, 1008 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: well let's not just leave that one on the board. 1009 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 1: You're not talking about ownership there. You're talking about what 1010 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,879 Speaker 1: the front office and the coaches, well every thing. I mean, yeah, 1011 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,280 Speaker 1: I mean you know from I mean, you know word 1012 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: we got word kind of down here about what was 1013 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 1: going on with the Benson's but you know, yeah, I 1014 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,840 Speaker 1: mean the first day here, you know, Mickey Loomus fires 1015 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: his the head of college scouting, and the guy sitting 1016 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 1: in the stand watching a game, and U if you 1017 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: talked to anybody, you know, this is not the best 1018 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: time to sort of switch directions in your college scouting 1019 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: department because a lot of your leg works already done 1020 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 1: and then all you really have is the combine left 1021 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 1: after this and now all of a sudden they're gonna 1022 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: plug in a new guy, and you know, talk to it. 1023 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 1: Just a few people around around the situation, and I 1024 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 1: mean they're just like, this is crazy. I mean, you 1025 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: know what, what's going to happen. And so you're saying, 1026 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 1: Jeff Ireland is not going to bring an era of 1027 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 1: calm um optimism and competent to the Saints. I mean 1028 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: even if he was John Schneider at this point. You know, 1029 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,360 Speaker 1: it's just a different way of doing things. It's totally 1030 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 1: different perspectives. And you know, it's like hiring a new 1031 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: professor halfway through the course and being like, yeah, you 1032 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,400 Speaker 1: know what, we don't need it that stuff where we're 1033 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: gonna do it my way now. And so I think 1034 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: It's could be really interesting, fascinating to see what direction 1035 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,319 Speaker 1: they're gonna go in the draft, because that's such a 1036 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,960 Speaker 1: that's such a crazy kind of you know, from from 1037 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,720 Speaker 1: the direction that they were going in before. Alright, Connor 1038 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: Or from Mobile Senior Bowl. Actually, let's put you on 1039 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 1: the spot really quick before I say good bye to you, 1040 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: give us one name that you've seen from the colleges. 1041 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: You're gonna put on your little draft knick hat. It's 1042 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 1: a dorky looking hat, and you're gonna give us one 1043 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 1: name from that you've seen in Mobile. That's gonna be 1044 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: a name to watch one day, is gonna rise up 1045 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: some draft boards and then have a nice little NFL 1046 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,439 Speaker 1: career and we'll put it all on you. Connor or 1047 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 1: all right, I got two for you, and they're both 1048 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 1: small school guys. Can you not listen to the questions 1049 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: I said one? Connor? Alright? No to all right? He 1050 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 1: was the first guy um Jaquiski Tart safety out of Sanford. 1051 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 1: Uh santatan Zick six to um I think one of 1052 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 1: our college football seven guys wrote an article about how 1053 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,759 Speaker 1: some of the scouts were saying that he really had 1054 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,600 Speaker 1: sec potential just totally got overlooked in school. And then 1055 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: another guy, Lynden Trail from Norfolk State, was a sport 1056 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: of guy. Are these real people? Are they these real names? 1057 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: What was the first what's that? What was the first 1058 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: guy's name? Again? Jack Wisky? I like that Jaquiski Tarts 1059 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 1: with two teas, and then uh Linden Trail um. And 1060 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: then if you can't find him in mind, don't worry 1061 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 1: about it. That just means that I haven't really been 1062 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,839 Speaker 1: at mobile. Just make the whole thing up, all right. 1063 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 1: That that's it. I was hoping you were gonna go 1064 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 1: with Shaquille Ali Jahan Mason, which is one of my 1065 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 1: favorite names I've heard in a long time, and Mike 1066 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 1: Mayock has been talking him up this week. I mean, 1067 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: that is a name, Shaquil Elijah On Mason. Mike Mayock 1068 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,439 Speaker 1: might like him. But Bill Brandt is a big Tarts fan. 1069 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: He's all about Tart, the first player from Sanford ever 1070 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: invited to the Senior Bowl, even more than Stanford. So 1071 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: there you go. Well we're all about Tart. Two, we're 1072 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: all about connor Or. Thanks for calling a buddy, see 1073 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 1: no problem. Yeah see see in Phoenix, Connor Or will 1074 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: be there. We'll be there and uh, I guess that's it. 1075 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,320 Speaker 1: We're next time, we talk to all of our loyal 1076 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: listeners and we thank you for downloading the show, and 1077 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 1: if you can tell your friends and you know, put comments, 1078 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: we appreciate it all. Also wanted to send out a 1079 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: thank you to Indye Sarah, who was nice enough to 1080 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 1: send my son Walker a little onesie with the name 1081 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,360 Speaker 1: with the word Delaware on it in honor of the 1082 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: greatest rock band of all time. And she'll be happy 1083 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: to know that we just told the crowd that you 1084 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 1: had been whisked out of here by a shadowy League figure, 1085 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,280 Speaker 1: potentially into you know, eternal doom, but you came back suddenly, 1086 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 1: so she's happy to know that. I'm sure that was 1087 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 1: really a test. I was seeing if you guys would 1088 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 1: just handle it and I would be back before the interview. 1089 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,959 Speaker 1: And I'd like to think it was yeah, you guys, 1090 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,279 Speaker 1: you guys. Doesn't sound convincing. It was nice. It was nice. 1091 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,359 Speaker 1: We'll see how it plays back to our listeners. I 1092 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 1: feel good here, Zach is back behind the mic. You're 1093 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: not going to Phoenix, though, are you. I'm not. It's 1094 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 1: too bad. Well, well, we'll see you on the other side. 1095 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: They'll be the off season by the time we see 1096 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 1: you again. For Dan Hansas who called in, and Connor 1097 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,919 Speaker 1: or Chris Wesleyan, Mark Sessler. I'm Greg Rosenthal. We'll see 1098 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 1: you next time.