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Were covering 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.120 the week of August twenty first and August twenty seventh. 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:15.959 Yeah, we sure are. 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:20.360 I can't believe cracker Barrel would do that. It's outrageous. 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.120 Yeah, that's clearly the biggest news. 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.000 Thankfully they switched it back. They took the cracker out 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.680 of the barrel, and thankfully though they've. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:30.520 Reversed course put the cracker back in. 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.880 I really don't understand how it's how it's woke. I mean, 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.240 I do understand, because I understand how this messaging works, but. 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.600 It doesn't matter anytime anything happens, and they can see 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.640 a backlash forming you after the fact because people were 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:46.119 starting to get pissed off about the fucking cracker barrel 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.240 thing in the same way like that happen with fucking 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.080 Games Workshop earlier this year, Like they redid their logo 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.240 in a shitty way. It is the same like minimal bullshit. Yeah, 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:55.440 everyone's doing it. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:59.920 It's it's not woke. Yeah, it's just incentivizing like capitalist conformity. 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.440 This is why they've changed all of the buildings of 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.360 like you know, McDonald's pizza Hut to the same structure, 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:07.480 so you can use the property and resell it over 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.040 and over and over again without having to do yes, 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.640 big renovations. It's just all about capitalist efficiency. It's not 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:13.240 about woke. 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:16.639 It's got nothing to do with woke. But there's people 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.440 whose whole like Chris Rufo, whose whole job is sitting 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.800 around and as soon as you started to see the 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.880 backlash forming it and realize like, oh, there's probably gonna 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:26.840 be a spree of these companies coming in with these 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:31.160 new minimalist logos. Because it's clearly a trend in like consultancies, 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.720 right like it started happening. This is not the first one. 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:37.120 So I'm just gonna look around until I see one 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.280 of these that feels like it's got culture war potential, 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:42.280 and Cracker Barrel is an obvious one, like if I'm looking, 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.160 if I was looking out there, that's when I would 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:45.120 pick right, Like. 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.720 I think they're also responding to, like, you know, the 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.040 past few years where we've been removing like racist caricatures 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.400 from logos right with like like Entemima's and like Lando 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:58.400 Lakes and using this in a similar way, except they 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:03.519 took quite kay leaning against the barrel. Yeah, so it's 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.320 part part part of that whole backlash as well. It's 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.440 funny though I have seen like I don't. I don't 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.239 know if it's from Chris Ruffo, but you know people 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.800 similar in that orbit talking about how this thing actually 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:18.760 is wokeism because minimalism is based on brutalism, which was 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:23.560 invented by communists. So actually turning everything into this minimalist 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:27.920 design is actually a plot from the Frankfurt School, the 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:29.400 Communists taking over. 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:34.359 I mean, look, it doesn't matter outside of the fact 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:38.240 that people whenever you buy into it, like you're you're 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.680 helping to feed like if you like, even dunking on. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.080 That's part of like the problem is that like, yeah, 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.680 just talking about this shit at all fuels the feedback loop, right, 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.040 And that's that's what this is, is a feedback loop 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.720 that they're very good at manipulating for political purposes. And 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:53.560 I'm not going to sit here and lecture you and 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:57.720 say like stop commenting on this, stop talking about this stuff, 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:02.480 but we do need to understand that this is the 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.320 olds in the audience will remember the old Simpsons Halloween 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:09.560 episode where the different like mascots from different companies like 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.680 come alive and start murdering people in town. And the 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.480 solution that's an old ad Man gives everyone is like, well, 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.479 if you want to stop the monsters, just look away. 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:21.240 Advertising feeds on attention, you know, and as every once 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:25.160 everyone ignores the monsters, they go away. And unfortunately that's 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.440 not how things actually work because there's three hundred and 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:29.919 fifty million people in the country and so whatever you 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.000 choose to do about this isn't going to matter. But 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:36.080 the feedback loop is going to continue unabated. That much 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:36.560 I can. 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:40.080 Say cracker barrel has fallen and like Christ after three days, 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:41.160 has rose again. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:49.800 Yeah. Great. Anyway, speaking of memes, unfortunately we should talk 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:53.400 about this horrible mass shooting that is probably going to 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.960 be the big story this week. I mean, I hate 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:57.719 to reduce it to that, but yeah. 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.320 We're recording this on Wednesday, a few hours after the shooting. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:03.360 This is in Minneapolis. 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.680 Yes, there was a mass shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic school, 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:13.000 Annunciation Catholic School. This happened earlier the day that we're 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:17.480 recording this, So that's going to be Wednesday, August twenty seventh. 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:21.080 As of right now at about two eleven pm PST, 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:25.640 two children are dead, Seventeen people, mostly children, are wounded. 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.160 The shooter is also dead, and the shooter has been 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:32.960 identified as Robin Westman, who graduated from the school in 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:34.240 twenty seventeen. 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:37.200 Their mom also worked at the school until very recently. 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:41.400 Yeah, and that's not at all an unusual kind of situation. 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.599 Mass shooters at schools often are either attending the school 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.320 or recently graduated. There's been a couple of cases where 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.200 a family member worked at the school. Like this stuff 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.640 is all pretty standard for somebody shooting up a school. 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.440 What's different is one of the things that's different is 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:59.960 that the shooter basically followed in Brenton Tarrant the christ 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.320 shooters footsteps by covering their firearms and the gear that 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.640 they were wearing and draw like I guess drew or 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.000 painted on I'm not sure. It looks like with like 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.359 a white paint pen, like white out or something like that, 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.560 a white paint pen and covered it. In the names 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:19.000 of other mass shooters, references to racial annihilation memes like 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.600 the Removed Kabab meme, which is in short, a memes 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:27.120 celebrating the Bosnian genocide, and it was a meme that 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.800 was specifically Brenton Tarrant had signaled in his like manifesto 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:32.440 and I think on his gun he had a remove 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:36.039 Kebob reference, but it's something he signaled and it was 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.440 on the shooter's firearm as well as the names. I 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:42.560 mean Tarrant. There's references to Tarrant on there. Timothy mc McVeagh, 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.599 te mcvay's name, just the word McVeigh is painted on there. 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.479 Ted Kazenski, the Unibomber, a. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:52.840 Whole bunch of other more recent mass shooters, people who 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.760 are in like the mass shooter fandom, yeah, as well 0:06:55.800 --> 0:07:00.000 as just a collection of memes from like old memes. 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:03.800 Too utterly unrelated to shooting, Like there's a loss meme 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.120 on there, and if you're a lot of people are going, wait, 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.840 what the fuck? Really? Yeah, and if you're too young 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:10.600 for loss. There used to be a wet well. I 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.200 think there still is a web comic called Control Alt Delete. 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.400 It started in like the early two thousands. It might 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:17.880 have gotten started in the late nineties, and it was 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.240 part of like this, there's this boom in web comics 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.440 in the late nineties when suddenly there's people are able 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.760 to make their own comics online and make livings off 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.880 of them. A whole bunch of guys made gaming comics 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.120 after Penny Arcade, which is like the big one that 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:32.960 blew up. And one of them was Tim Buckley, who 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.120 did a comic called Control All Delete that was not good, 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.120 and he tried to have a serious storyline where his 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:42.240 character's girlfriend has a miscarriage, and the strip in which 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.840 he finds her having a miscarriage is called loss. And 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.360 it's gotten to the point where people are abstracting the 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:52.200 four panels into like a minimalist line representation of how 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.440 the blocking look like. It's a bit people have done 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:58.400 everything like put loss memes on everything, like that's the 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.440 joke at this point, more than a reference to the 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.000 show is like, look at this new crazy place. Somebody 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:04.320 put a loss meme, and. 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:05.760 So yeah, it's a game. 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:07.360 And a lot of what we're saying with the shooter 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.080 is like, oh, this is the natural extent of a 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:12.120 bunch of things, and a fucking mass shooter putting a 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.320 loss meme on the bear or on the side of 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.800 their gun before shooting up a school is the natural 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.960 furthest craziest extent of the loss meme. Right. 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.840 If this is anything, it is like a mimetic shooting. 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.680 It is based on a whole bunch of memes about 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:30.520 other mass shootings as well, specifically in the way that 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:34.720 engages in like anti semitism and racism and includes slurs 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.800 and catchphrases. It's not in the way that the shooter 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.480 actually believes these things ideologically. It is just to gesture 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.880 to them as they exist in the lineage of other 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:45.800 mass shootings. 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:46.280 It is. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:50.600 It's a perfunctory use of slurs and of messaging that 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:55.040 just kind of wraps around this whole like nihilistic fandom 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:58.360 culture around other mass shooters, and like that is that's 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.600 what this shooting is. I've watch now like seventeen minutes 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.680 of video of the shooter like showing off their weapons, 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:08.319 going through their diaries and journals, inspired by a whole 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.000 bunch of like Eastern European mass shooters as well. And 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:14.880 this shooter reminds me of participants of what's called the 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:19.760 true crime community or TCC. Not as in like the 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:23.760 genre of true crime podcasts or documentaries, but it's more 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:27.160 of an online fandom based on a personal obsession with 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:31.280 mass killers themselves and specifically school shooters. And this community 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.160 encourages reenactments and tries to get some people to do 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:38.440 their own mass shootings. Yeah, and this is not the 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.960 first one of these we've had in this past year. Now, 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.319 the shooting in Wisconsin last December I spent the rep Noow, 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.640 which we reported on on NI could Happen Here, was 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:51.440 also in this variant of like Columbiner True Crime community shootings. 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.280 Repnow's name is on one of this shooter's rifles. Yes, 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.240 there was a shooting in Tennessee a few months later 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:01.360 which also referenced Repnow, done by a black white supremacist 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.360 in cel whose manifesto was full of like plagiarized memes 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:08.400 and other manifestos. It's about this, like yeah, this complete 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.959 lack of meaning, Like they scatter shot all of these 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.560 memes and references and like bits of manifestos and like 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.960 images to just to make this whole mess of stuff 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.720 to look at. But none of it actually means anything. 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:24.960 Well, and the draining of meaning, the flattening of meaning 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.040 is part of the pla. That's the point taking is 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.640 taking a man who shot fucking fifty people to death 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.880 and turning that into the same thing as a twenty 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:35.960 year old joke about a comic strip in terms of 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:39.800 its impact and severity, Because if that's no more serious 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.400 or meaningful or painful than fucking a joke about Tim 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:47.080 Buckley's dumbass cartoon. Like, once you get someone in a 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.720 mind state where they accept that they're willing to accept 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.800 a lot of terrible things, right, And the goal here 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:57.600 is creating content in the form of mass shootings, right, Like, 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.480 that is the goal, and that is also what people 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.360 are consciously. A lot of people want to be a 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:05.400 part of themselves. You mentioned the last year's shooting that 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.640 committed by Samantha ruppnow, but there's also I found a 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:13.000 December thirtieth, twenty twenty four article in Wisconsin Public radiowpr 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.080 dot org their website. It talks about reupnow, but it 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.319 also gives the story of thirteen year old Jamie Sitz, 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:23.120 who killed herself in twenty twenty four and was a 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:25.520 member of the true crime community. The police went through 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.000 her phone and they found a bunch of memes and 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:32.439 reference and like her contributing to online discussions and telegrams 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:36.280 and stuff for PCC. She was obsessed with the Columbine Kids, right. 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.640 She like engaged in a lot of those conversations, and 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.120 she was posting about her plan to kill herself, but 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.880 she was not interested in carrying out like a mass 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:48.240 shooting or killing other people, and that fit in fine 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.559 within the discourse like people in courage present basically right, 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.080 Like yeah, I think part of the thrill hitary is 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.240 just wanting to feel like you, sitting on your ass 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.880 on the computer, you are impacting the world in part 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.160 because you feel like that's the only chunk of the 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:06.520 world that you've got right, and that's tied into the 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.439 hopelessness and the nihilism of all of this. I found 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:11.960 a just random poster on Reddit in a discussion of 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:16.040 the TCC community. I actually really like this person's summary 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.040 of it. And this is like seven years old. Interestingly enough, 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.480 it's not a new phenomenon. It dates back to interwar 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.439 period Germany. There were many Germans at the time who 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.200 were fascinated with the topic of extremely grisly murder and torture, 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:29.880 especially such instances where sexual arousal was involved. The German 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.080 language even has a word for it, lust mort or 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.640 lust murder. Serial killers were on the rise at the time, 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:36.200 and many of them claimed to get extreme amounts of 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.760 carnal pleasure from the act of killing or maiming, and 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.959 there is this weird vein I found another study as 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.800 I was looking into this that uses the true crime 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:49.440 community term. It's from twenty fifteen by Naomi Barnes of 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.559 Utah State University, and it was like looking into fandoms 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.800 that had grown up around serial killers and around spree 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:00.440 killers online. And Naomi is using the word true crime 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.200 community for just the general terms of people who are 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.080 interested in true crime, not in the way that you 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:06.120 and I have been using it. 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:08.240 Yeah, because we're using this this term to refer to 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:12.680 like a specific fandom around like around these shootings, not 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.840 the general milieu of like true crime podcasts and like 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.200 documentaries and people who are into that sort of content. 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:22.079 We're referring to a much more niche group of people 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:26.280 online who operate on like Telegram, discord, Tumbler, and other 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:27.360 social media accounts. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:27.640 Right. 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:31.160 It's based around like specifically like like an obsession over 0:13:31.280 --> 0:13:34.160 actually doing these acts and like and and like they 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.280 like cause play as these people. This isn't like your 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.280 you know, average white woman who likes listening to true 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.360 crime podcasts. This is this is something very different. 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.080 No, and that's that's important. But it's also important to 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.600 note that, like what you've been talking about, this this 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.440 need to recreate, and not just prior to actually carrying 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.560 out a shooting, because most of them don't ever do that. 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.240 There's this need, this obsession with the aesthetics to want 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.840 to own clothing and objects and whatnot that like look 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:02.360 like Eric Dylan or whatever. Right, the column bine band shirt. 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:06.920 Yeah right, And this does extend to the shootings, Like 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.800 there's a number of shooters who have worn that KMFDM 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:11.959 shirt because one of the columnbind guys wore. 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.880 It cementthro up now and I believe this recent shooter 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.480 also had had a KMDS shirt picked out. 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.400 And what's interesting about that twenty fifteen study is that 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:24.440 it is looking at the true crime community because columnbiners 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.000 were already a thing. There'd been a number of copycat attacks, 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:31.840 but the kind of social fandom around like that aspect 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.720 of it had not really taken hold in a mass 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.760 level in a way that the internet and virality could 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:38.760 really make use of. 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.960 It involved on Tumblr like in that era. Yes, it's 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.520 more like an infant compared to like the fully grown 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:45.560 version that it is now. 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.880 Yeah, And what's interesting to me is this this paper 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:52.160 kind of catches the communities. It's starting to calv Off. 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:55.720 And so there's a chunk of the paper where she's 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.880 quoting from a couple of different people who went and visited. 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:02.480 In one case, they visited like Adam Lanza's house and 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.720 the Sandy Hook Elementary School, and it's people visiting places 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.320 like that, sites associated with like mass shootings and the like. 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:10.880 And she gives this mix of people being like, oh, 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:12.640 like the first quesson he quotes who went to Lands 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:14.400 of House is like, I was actually just really sad 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.080 and I just wish none of it had ever taken place, 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:19.440 Like it was all really horrible and it made me 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:23.080 feel bad. But then a bit later she gives you 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.480 responses from people who have the opposite reaction, Like there's 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:30.640 this fella Paul, who does not specify which murder site 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:33.000 they visited, but specified that it was a place where 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:36.800 a murder victim's body was found. And Paul responded, Honestly, 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:38.920 I felt a static like, Wow, I'm going to place 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.440 someone was killed. What if there are ghosts the murderer 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.080 him or herself? I was absolutely off. My kid, we 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:45.720 dug up some dirt and we keep it in a 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.280 little glass bottle. It's like a religious pilgrimage, right, right, 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.440 And that's the static and that's what this starts to document. 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.520 And that's where I'm like, oh, this is this study 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.400 is mostly about an unrelated just a normal fandom, but 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.280 you can see the bits like already popping up in 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:05.040 twenty fifteen, these people who are having these estatic almost 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:08.480 again like almost like psychosexual experiences being at the site 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:09.360 of a mass shooting. 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:12.200 Yeah, and the further country that is then doing one yourself. 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.520 And obviously this also is like a part of like 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:16.680 a suicidal drive, a suicidal intention. While a lot of 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.480 people kill themselves in the course of the act, right, 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.920 it's a way of making your suicide not just be 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:22.720 about yourself. 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.600 Right. And there's more to say about like the culture 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:31.479 of fame in this country and like how how virality 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.640 and whatnot has made it so that like these people 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.280 tend to get what they want, or at least they 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.920 know they've got a good chance of getting what they want, right, 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.040 they're obviously not around to experience it, but like, as 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:46.160 long as you do something sufficiently like weird and bloody, 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.800 you're likely to get a good amount of attention for 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:49.320 a while. 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.640 So that's the actual like background of what this shooting was. 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:55.880 I think now we should probably mention how the shooting's 0:16:55.920 --> 0:17:00.400 being talked about more broadly, Yeah, because it takes a 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:04.760 very different angle from the actual like nihilistic, like TCC 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.600 fandom aspect it is. It is making this a more 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.600 about like woke contemporary politics, I suppose. 0:17:12.840 --> 0:17:13.199 Yeah. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.640 Cash Betel's announced that he's investigating this as as an 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:18.680 anti Catholic hate crime. 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:23.200 Yeah, which is just not true. I mean, it's almost 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.480 certainly by a Catholic or somebody who was raised gath Like. Yeah. 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.560 All the people who hate Catholics most are often lapsed Catholics. 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.560 Very early on, people started claiming that this shooter was 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:37.040 trans Now, a few years ago, they did change their 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:40.439 name to Robin, and the name change petition stated that 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.800 at the time they identified as female. At this point, 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:48.000 we still know very little about the actual shooter beyond 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:50.560 like the videos they posted on YouTube of their weapons 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:54.800 and a journal written in cyrillic and a note that 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.520 they left to their parents discussing their fear of dying 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:00.679 of cancer due to vaping. I've not been able to 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.520 look at their Internet presence or activities in the intervening 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:07.520 years since changing their name, and their current gender identity 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:11.280 is still not very clear. In a translation of their 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.760 cyrillic journal, they discussed detransition quote, I don't want to 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.800 dress girly all the time, but I guess sometimes I 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.080 really like it. I know I am not a woman, 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.480 but I definitely don't feel like a man. I regret 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.879 being trans. I wish I was a girl. I just 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.520 know I cannot achieve that body with the technology we 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:34.120 have today. I also can't afford that I only keep 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.480 my long hair because it is pretty much my last 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:41.040 shred of being trans. I'm tired of being trans. I 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:45.560 wish I never brainwashed myself. I can't cut my hair now, 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.680 as it would be an embarrassing defeat and it might 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:52.000 be a concerning change of character that could get me reported. 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.600 It just always gets in my way. I will probably 0:18:55.720 --> 0:19:00.560 chop it on the day of the attack. Discussion of 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.240 gender takes up a very small percentage of the journal. 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.440 Most of their writing is about admiration for previous mass 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:11.960 shooters and fantasizing about killing children from a very young age. 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.000 On the cover of their journal, alongside a bunch of 0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:17.920 other like gun stickers, they do have a defend a 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:22.160 quality Progress flag sticker with an AK forty seven YEP. 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.400 From my perspective, this is just another one of those 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:29.280 memes that they're wrapping into everything. On one of their magazines, 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:33.800 they wrote I am the wokeler, why so queerious? Right 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:37.040 on the other side of the magazine had an anti 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.720 queer slur. So I view this type of stuff in 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:42.639 the same way I view the inclusion of like the 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:46.000 Lost meme or like Ted Kaczinski or all this other stuff. 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.520 This this like memified version of trying to throw everything 0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:51.959 at the wall just to make everything mean nothing right. 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:55.440 And it's it's extremely like obnoxious and annoying. 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:56.560 But it it works. 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.439 But yeah, it works. And I don't know what else 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.160 I want to say on this, onlike the trends angle, we. 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:04.119 Don't want to deny that like this is going to 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:07.120 cause a problem, that this is going to be used 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.680 by the right, like there will be There will certainly 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:13.040 be rhetoric, and I've already seen rhetoric from you know, 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:15.080 Jack posobc in that crowd around it. 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:16.800 About trans people targeting Catholics. 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.359 Well, this is why these people shouldn't have weapons or whatever, 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:21.080 like this is why we should put them all in 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:24.119 and I don't. I'm not going to minimize that that 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:27.159 didn't start with this, that that kind of rhetoric, that 0:20:27.200 --> 0:20:30.240