1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: generation warfare. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran. 4 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: This is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic. 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 3: Christ Is King. 6 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 4: The epidemic of left wing violence and Antifa inspired terra 7 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 4: has been escalating for nearly a decade. 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 5: President Donald Trump's Department of Justice is moving swiftly to 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 5: prosecute alleged members of Antifa after he signed an executive 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 5: order declaring the militant anti fascist movement a domestic terrorist organization. 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 4: These are agitators, anarchists, and they're paid accused of causing 12 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 4: chaos and destruction, especially in American cities like Seattle and Portland. 13 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 6: Want to overthrow the government. 14 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 5: But extremism researchers like Carlin Borisenko say, in order to 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 5: fully understand what fuels this decentralized network, and. 16 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 6: So you're gonna get a really inside look at like 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 6: the agenda of the far. 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 5: Left, the Bay Area Anarchist book fair in Oakland is 19 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 5: where to begin. 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 6: A lot of this stuff is about doing illegal stuff, 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 6: like we just have to. 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: Sort of watch our backs here, I gotcha. 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 6: A lot of this comes from their publishing company called 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 6: Crime Think. 25 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 5: Borisenko and I recently went under cover and discovered a 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 5: disturbing world that goes beyond T shirts and New York 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 5: Times bestselling authors. Then this one literally says and. 28 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 6: Actually training martial arts for anti fascism. They are a 29 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 6: decentralized group. That's very true. But it's like this is 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 6: how they coordinate through the zine, through the publications, things 31 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 6: like that. 32 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 5: Borasenko says, this is where the radical left organizes, recruits 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 5: and indoctrinates the next generation of ANTIFA militants. If I 34 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 5: take this, thank you generously giving away free propaganda material 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 5: on how to mobilize for a violent direct action soccer 36 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 5: scarves to fundraise for an Antifa bail fund, basically for 37 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 5: folks that get into trouble with the government correcdown. 38 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: What do you think is going to happen? Now, it's 39 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 3: a good question. And pushing tons of material. 40 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 7: We're bookstort work gallery. 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 5: Like these triple X LGBTQ comic books easily accessible to children, truly. 42 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 5: Then there are the workshops, including a DIY abortion session, 43 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 5: where organizers claim women's reproductive rights are under attack in America. 44 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 5: I know some of you have heard about our abortion 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 5: cards teaching attendees how to make their own morning after 46 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 5: pills through this video. 47 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: It can stop so that you clear it and that's 48 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 3: all it takes. That's easily accessible on YouTube. 49 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 5: First notes, Left, mister pristall is an incredibly safe target's 50 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 5: safer than tile and all. 51 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 6: Abortion is critical to far left strategies because they believe 52 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 6: it liberates women from being a part of the gender binary. 53 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 6: The gender binary is one of the oppressive mechanisms of capitalism, 54 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 6: and so if they can liberate women from the reproductive 55 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 6: obligations that they have as women to raise kids capitalist 56 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 6: families and stuff like that, they believe that's a blow 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 6: to capitalism. 58 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 5: The all day sessions ended with a panel on organizing 59 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 5: against Ice. Representatives from NorCal Resist dressed up as hamas 60 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 5: terrorists in what they're now calling Kafia Block instead of 61 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 5: black Blocks. Since they know federal authorities are scrutinizing Antifa 62 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 5: more than ever. The found there's not this. 63 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: They are constantly evolving formos you've seen, ladies. John, welcome 64 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: onboard today's edition of Human Events Daily. We are here 65 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: live on Real America's Voice. Today is October twenty second, 66 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five Anno Dominie folks. Absolutely amazing news. This 67 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: is something that I've had for a little while, but 68 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: of course have had to keep under wraps even though 69 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: I heard about it. Of Course, some certain things you 70 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: just have to hold off for OPSEEC purposes. Turning USA, 71 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: the front Line's street journalism team infiltrated Antifa this past weekend, 72 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: two cells of Antifa in two separate states and in 73 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: two separate cities, and we are going to be interviewing 74 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: members of the team that participated in that infiltration very 75 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: soon here on today's episode. So for all the people 76 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: who want to say that Antifa is not real, that 77 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: the organization doesn't exist, that oh they're they're decentralized, they 78 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: don't have a real leader, they don't have no. No, 79 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: it's a joke. It's a lie, and it's always been one. 80 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: Antifa is the international arm of communism. They are the 81 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: militant wing of communism, and they have been for one 82 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: hundred years. They even have an Antifa professor. His name 83 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: is doctor Antifa Mark Bray. He's over in Spain. For 84 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: some reason. On the te dime out in New Jersey. Well, 85 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: TPUSA did not take this lightly and in fact spent 86 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: the weekend not only having people so front lines. The 87 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: amazing thing about what these guys do. The men and 88 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: women are front lines. Not only do they literally put 89 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: themselves into harm's way, put themselves in a harms way. 90 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: And you saw many of them featured at the President's 91 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: roundtable there at the White House. They're out there in Portland, 92 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: they're out there in Seattle, they were in Chazz, they 93 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: were in so many different things where bullets are flying, 94 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: where tear gases whizzing past them, where they're getting up 95 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: close and personal with these radicals. But what does Antifa 96 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: do when they're not out in the streets? Where did 97 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: they go? How do they organize? How do they plan? 98 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: Turning Point USA front Lines is going to take you 99 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: where they went inside the Antifa sells inside their planning, 100 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: inside their ideological radicalization. And we will have them on 101 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: to answer any questions. So, by the way, send your 102 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: questions in seventeen seventy six at human events dot com. 103 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: That's seventeen seventy six at Humanevents dot com. Make sure 104 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: that we get every single question answered that you want. 105 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: Because this was no joke. These are people who are 106 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: marked men, people that Antifa have a kill list out for, 107 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: and we know that the kill orders went out after 108 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: that roundtable all of Antifa at the White House featuring 109 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: the President. But you know something, we're not backing down. 110 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: We're doubling down. This infiltration operation was a massive success, 111 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: and we've got the information and all the details, and 112 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: of course, as always, the receipts coming up next. Human 113 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: Events Daily right back. 114 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: And in our way, and our golden age has just begun. 115 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: This is Human Events with Jacksovic. Now it's time for 116 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: everyone to understand what America First truly means. Welcome to 117 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: the Second American Revolution. 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You partner here with Human Events daily. 161 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: But I have another announcement to make in terms of 162 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: partnerships that Human Events has been up to you. We 163 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: do a little, we do a little partnering behind the scenes, 164 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: and want to bring this announcement to all of you. 165 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: They may have heard recently over at the Department of 166 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: War and the Pentagon depending on Press Corps staged this 167 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: walk out refusing to take part in the new standards 168 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: and new rules for accredation over at the Pentagon and 169 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: they said, oh, well, you're not going to be credentialed 170 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: if we have to follow rules and do these things. 171 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: And they were marching out with their boxes and their binders, 172 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: and you know, they were going up on TV saying 173 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: how they were the real victims and all of this nonsense. Well, 174 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: the way I look at it is gosh, what an 175 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: opportunity to replace them, ladies and gentlemen. I am proud 176 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: to announce that Human Events is now a partner of 177 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: the new Pentagon Press Corps as well as the Post Millennial. 178 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: And here to explain exactly what that means and what 179 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: that entails and what's all going to happen, we have 180 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: Kingsley Wilson from the Department of War here to discuss it. Kingsley, 181 00:10:59,280 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: thanks for coming back. 182 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 6: Great to join you. 183 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: Jack. 184 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: Well, I just have to say thank you so much 185 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 1: for the opportunity to be involved in the Pentagon Press Corps. 186 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: Of course, as a prior Navy officer. Myself, I never 187 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: expected to be involved in the Department in such a way, 188 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: But here we are. 189 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 8: It's fantastic news and we're so proud to have Human 190 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 8: Events and over sixty other journalists that are going to 191 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 8: be joining us here in the Pentagon. And you talked 192 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 8: a little bit about the previous Pentagon press corps. They 193 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 8: walked out because they refused to sign an agreement that 194 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 8: was simple, it was common sense. It said, where a 195 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 8: visible press badge, don't go in classified spaces, stay in 196 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 8: the correspondence corridor, and follow the building's rules. They refuse 197 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 8: to do that. They self deported. That was their right, 198 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 8: but also their loss, because now we get to have 199 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 8: incredible journalists like yourself who are going to be here 200 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 8: in the Pentagon on reporting on what the Department of 201 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 8: War is doing every single day. It's really the next 202 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 8: generation of journalism at the Pentagon, and we're so excited 203 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 8: for this new era and this new generation. I think 204 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 8: we saw President Trump use this on the campaign trail 205 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 8: so well, right, he didn't have to rely on the 206 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 8: mainstream media's corrupt filter to get his message out. He 207 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 8: went to independent journalists. He went on podcasts and alternative 208 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 8: news networks where he was able to speak directly to 209 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 8: the American people. That's exactly what we hope to do 210 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 8: here at the Department of War, and we're really excited 211 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 8: to welcome this new group of sixty plus journalists. 212 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: It's awesome. Well, and I have to say, by the way, 213 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: just honored to have been included at the Navy's two 214 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: fiftieth birthday and tagging along and sort of in the 215 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: new media seats as well with the USS bullsh and 216 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: that display of naval firepower, the same firepower that the 217 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: cartels are now getting a taste of down in the 218 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: Mark Haribe when they're trying to infiltrate the United States 219 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: and trying to cross into get their illicit substances into 220 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: our area. And you know, I was I was not 221 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: to digress, but you know, I was on the Piers 222 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: Morgan Show yesterday and people were saying, oh, you know, 223 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: how can the US do this? And I said, well, 224 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: wait a minute. The United States Navy and the Coastguard 225 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: have been interdicting small boats and interdicting gun runners and 226 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: slavers and pirates and mercenaries and all rum runners during 227 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: Prohibition and all the rest for actually hundreds of years 228 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: in the Caribbean. This is nothing new, and so it's 229 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: unbelievable to me that the Press Corps is just so deficient, 230 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: I should say the previous Press Corps was so deficient 231 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: in understanding just basic history. 232 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: Guys. 233 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's worth a grock to understand that this 234 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 1: is actually a mission that the United States military, in 235 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: particular one the United States Navy, one that I'm proud 236 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: of to have been served in, has been doing for 237 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: hundreds of years. And you know, I served at Guantanamo 238 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: Bay right there in southern commands to US South com 239 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 1: and that was had you know, prior to detention operations, 240 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: had been a key base as a recoaling station and 241 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: refueling station in these types of operations. This is nothing new. 242 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: But again, just you know, to point to something that's 243 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: going on right now that clearly shows that the people 244 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: covering the Pentagon, people covering the Department of War have 245 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: no idea what they're talking about. 246 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 8: Absolutely, and that's why we're so excited to have folks 247 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 8: like yourself, Jack, who were Navy intel officers, who understand 248 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 8: this stuff, have that important perspective and are going to 249 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 8: be able to tell the American people the ground truth 250 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 8: of what's going on, without the leftist ideology, without the 251 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 8: mainstream media spin. The American people are now going to 252 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 8: get the cold hard facts, and the cold hard facts 253 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 8: are that what we are doing in the southcom Aoar 254 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 8: all across the Western Hemisphere is protecting the homeland and 255 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 8: keeping the American people safe. That is something that President 256 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 8: Trump campaigned on doing. It's something that Secretary Hegseth is 257 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 8: incredibly focused on, and we will continue to ensure that 258 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 8: people are not trafficking deadly narcotics into our borders across 259 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 8: our shores. It's totally unacceptable if we have that kind 260 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 8: of activity in the Gulf of America or elsewhere. We 261 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 8: don't have a country, we don't have a homeland that 262 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 8: is secure and protected, and we need to make sure 263 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 8: as a Department of War that we are keeping the 264 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 8: American people safe. So these operations will continue. We had 265 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 8: our eighth strike yesterday, our first that was in the 266 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 8: Eastern Pacific, and we will continue to seek out these 267 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 8: narco terrorists wherever they are and make sure that we 268 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 8: dismantle these narco terrorist networks. They can't be allowed to 269 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 8: you know, wreak havoc on the American people anymore. President 270 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 8: Trump has said no, so this has got to stop. 271 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: And by the way, Press Secretary Wilson that the and I, 272 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, I had this, Uh, I was on the 273 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: Piers Morgan show yesterday. So it's back and forth and 274 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: you're changing subjects rapidly. But I didn't get a chance 275 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: to say this and something I wanted to point out. 276 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: And then people had said, why do the strikes instead 277 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: of you know, a VBSS visit board search and siege 278 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: operation like you may see in President got to see 279 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: a sort of demonstration of that and evolution that was 280 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: conducted off of the USS Bush where they had sent 281 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: a Navy seal team to you know, sort of conduct 282 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: the VBSS on a destroyer's you know, simulation of what 283 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: it might look like at see. But the response that 284 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: I had to do they understand how dangerous that is 285 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: for our sailors, for our servicemen. Do they understand the 286 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: harm that you were asking them to put themselves in 287 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: if they're going to try to, I don't know, board 288 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: a semi submersible that's being run by drug runners to 289 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: board one of these things that's being run by cartel members, 290 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: and so yes, of course, as as an I got 291 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: to say as a prior Intel officer, of course, we're 292 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: always looking for more information, more intelligent sources of information, 293 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: and so you know, we understand that obviously with the strikes, 294 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: you don't always get all of that information out. But 295 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: absolutely one of the biggest risks that you're talking about 296 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: is conducting one of these VBSS operations. And you know, 297 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: again it's it's just goes to show you that I 298 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: really think that there's a lot of people covering the Pentagon, 299 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: covering Department of War that are very glib. They've been 300 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: very glib about this, and they pick a narrative and 301 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: they run with it rather than actually talking to people 302 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: who served, who have a basic understanding of how these 303 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: operations work and what they mean for the servicemen. And 304 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: that's obviously been something that the new Secretary of War 305 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: has built it first and foremost in his duty. 306 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 8: I couldn't agree with you more. And I think these 307 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 8: strikes also that the President has directed send a message, 308 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 8: right they tell cartels across the region, think twice before 309 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 8: you try to harm American citizens with your deadly narcotics 310 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 8: and deadly drugs. That is an important message that we're sending. 311 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 8: We've spent years as a military, you know, nation building, 312 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 8: doing un missions all across the world, while we have 313 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 8: ignored what has been happening in our very own hemisphere 314 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 8: and at our very own border. That has ended thanks 315 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 8: to President Trump and Secretary Access Vision and leadership. So 316 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 8: many of these cartel drug networks have been totally dismantled, 317 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 8: and we will continue who ensure that they are fully 318 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 8: dismantled because that's what the American people deserve. And it 319 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 8: has been disgraceful to see so many in the media 320 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 8: carry water for a lot of these narco terrorists. You 321 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 8: have people claiming that they're fishermen. Jack, you and I 322 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 8: both know that if you have a semi submersible submarine, 323 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 8: you're probably not a fisherman. 324 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: Now, No, the semi submersibles are not fishermen. 325 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 5: I know. 326 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: You've got to run a second. Any other names that 327 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: you're releasing at this point or where can people go 328 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: to get the full list? 329 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, so we've got a lot of folks. We're retweeting 330 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 8: everyone from Dow Rapid Response, So go check out our account. 331 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 8: There We've got great people. We've got Real America's Voice, 332 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 8: which I know you're streaming from right now. We've also 333 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 8: got the post Millennial, so a lot of things affiliated 334 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 8: with you, Jack, and we're very excited to have so 335 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 8: many wonderful truth telling journalists that are going to be 336 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 8: joining us here. 337 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: Honored the Department of War Press Secretary Kingsley Wilson. God 338 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: bless and thank you, and I will see you soon. 339 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: And you better be ready for some tough questions. Be 340 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: right back. Human Events Daily. 341 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 4: Talk about influences. These are influences and their friends and mine. Jack. 342 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: All right, Jack Recivik, we are back here Human Events 343 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: Daily live on Real America's Voys want to play the 344 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: next half of that infiltration documentary, turning Point USA front Lines, 345 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: going beyond the front lines into the heart of Antifa. 346 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 5: Despite the change in appearance, their goals remain the same. 347 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 5: Declare class warfare, use the latest protest movement to destabilize 348 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 5: the US government, tear down capitalism and anything related to Israel, 349 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 5: then usher in a violent revolution built on socialist and 350 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 5: communist ideals. 351 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: This playbook is pretty much laid out in all. 352 00:19:54,400 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 5: Their material Welcome, but most unsettling of all multi vendors 353 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 5: embraced teachings from the occult and Satan. 354 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: Worship, explicitly anarcho Satanism. 355 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 5: This man altered the ANTIFA logo and added prongs from 356 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 5: a devil's pitchfork. Satan then asked people to put on 357 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 5: this Lucifer mask and recite their allegiance to the Prince 358 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 5: of Darkness. 359 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 6: Satan, the eternal Rebel, the first freethinker, and the emancipator 360 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 6: of worlds. 361 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 5: The next day, Borisenko and I flew to the Emerald 362 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 5: City to meet citizen journalist Matthew Adams. You can feel 363 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 5: the heat, who's been covering ANTIFA chaos for several years. 364 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 3: They're absolutely trying to recruit for Antifa. 365 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 5: We infiltrated the Seattle Anarchist book fair hosted by the 366 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 5: Vera Project. 367 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 7: They want to put our picture up there for pana. 368 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 5: Fascists, and were immediately greeted by a massive board featuring 369 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 5: a so called wall of fascists. 370 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 3: That's us in the photos. 371 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 5: Once we got in wearing disguises, the messaging and the 372 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 5: vibe were pretty much the same as the Oakland book fair. 373 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 5: More far left propaganda calls for ana is violence against 374 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 5: the ruling class, I hope and hyper sexualized content targeting miners. 375 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 5: Or Asenko even obtained a flyer for an Antifa direct 376 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 5: action in a city park scheduled for Halloween. 377 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 3: Eve, Faily Please. 378 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 5: Adams and I were eventually outed and chased by a 379 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 5: group of angry transgender activists. 380 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 3: Even with this amazing T shirt. They know us for 381 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 3: these direct actions. 382 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 8: We're going to a Left Bank Books, which is a 383 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 8: far le revolutionary bookstore. 384 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 5: Borasenko spent the remainder of her time plotting out the 385 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 5: constellation of bookstores in Seattle that are keeping these ideas alive. 386 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 3: You know, it's the direct action of fascists anti fascion sales. 387 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 5: With more Americans now realizing the danger posed by Antifa 388 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 5: and their followers. 389 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 6: The rioters that were saying kill Ice agents, the. 390 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 5: Federal authorities are also trying to disrupt the terror group's 391 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 5: funding network. 392 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: We are following the money, but a. 393 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 5: Hydrive cutting off one head will likely sprout several others. 394 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: They're harming everyday citizens in every single one of our. 395 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 5: Communities because Antifa is fueled by an allegiance to extremist ideology, 396 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 5: not just a bank account so if. 397 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 6: Law enforcement isn't looking at the bookstores and the book 398 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 6: there sentience, then they're really missing an opportunity to figure 399 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 6: out what these people are doing. 400 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: Just incredible work. And we're joined now by two of 401 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: the members of that team, incredible intrepid journalists and videographers 402 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: and friends of mine. By the way, we've got Jonathan 403 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: Show and six seven Kevin. What's up, guys, Thanks for 404 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: having us back. So let me get started on this. Jonathan, 405 00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: the first question I have is how how did you 406 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: shape this operation and how was it that you got 407 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: started really on this infiltration. 408 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 5: Well, Jack, the conversation about chasing this story actually started 409 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 5: right after our White House roundtable. I think it's been 410 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 5: about a week now since we were both there advising 411 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 5: the President on Antifa and our experience covering this domestic 412 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 5: terror group. And my friend and researcher Carlin Burisenko and 413 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 5: I we've stayed in touch, and she told me that 414 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 5: if I really wanted to see what was happening behind 415 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 5: the scenes, the underbelly, so to speak, the planning, the recruiting, 416 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 5: the indoctrination, that I would need to go to these 417 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 5: anarchist book fairs. Now, look I've known about anarchist book 418 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 5: fairs for several years now, living in Seattle. Places like 419 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 5: Portland have them, Oakland have them. I didn't really think 420 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 5: much of them. I thought they were just book fairs, right, 421 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 5: pretty innocuous. But once I went inside with Carlin, that's 422 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 5: when I started to see the actual material, the messaging inside, 423 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 5: the calls for direct action, and the sessions like one 424 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 5: on an anti ice protest that they're planning. They're actually 425 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 5: calling for violence and teaching recruits how to again get 426 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 5: in the way of these agents and disrupt ice rates. 427 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: So the idea is, then you came in, Now did 428 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: you know where these locations were? Did doctor Carlin know? 429 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: Was this something or was this something that you uncovered 430 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: by by sort of you know, using a top of 431 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: funnel method where you go to the black block and 432 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: then learn more information as you daisy chain it forward. 433 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much. This is all public knowledge. 434 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 5: This is all openly advertised on social media sites like 435 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 5: blue Sky, Instagram and of course the Flyer method. These 436 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 5: are posted everywhere. I want to be very clear, there 437 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 5: was no fee to enter these anarchist book fairs. It 438 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 5: was totally free. It was open to the public. The 439 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 5: only thing that we couldn't do was record, and that's 440 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 5: where we had to go undercover. And unfortunately for me 441 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 5: and Carlin, we're recognizable in this space. The far left 442 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 5: activists know who we are, so there were actually poster 443 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 5: boards with our faces saying look out for these fascists. 444 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 3: That's what they called us fascists. 445 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: And that's something I want to ask in a second. 446 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: By the way, six seven kevins, I have to imagine 447 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: that after this, they're definitely going to recognize you. By 448 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: the way, he really is six to seven folks, I 449 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: can't really tell here. 450 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, they are going to recognize me. I did get 451 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 7: avid there for trying to record inside of a DIY 452 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 7: abortion workshop. But being on the ground at this book fair, 453 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 7: one of the things that hit me first, other than 454 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 7: the smell because there are a lot of overweight LGBTQ individuals, 455 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 7: so you just get struck by the smell, was the occult, 456 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 7: the witchcraft and the overt satanism that was everywhere at 457 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 7: this book fair. I was talking to people. I was like, 458 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 7: are you guys putting out real witchcraft, real sigils? 459 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 5: Things like that? 460 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 7: They said, yeah, I mean you saw the guy there 461 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 7: he asked me, hey, put on this Satanic mask mask 462 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 7: and basically, you know, swear yourself to Satan. I'm like, no, thanks, 463 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 7: you know, I'm good. But when conservatives say this is 464 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 7: a spiritual war, this really is. And we need to 465 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 7: pray for these individuals because they're all images of God still, 466 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 7: but they're being corrupted right now. But prayers aren't necessary. 467 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 7: This is a spiritual war. 468 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and we're gonna break that down some 469 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: more throughout the rest of the episode. Quick break here, 470 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: do not touch that. Don't even think about scrolling away, folks, 471 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: turning Point USA frontlines infiltrated Antifa, and we've got the 472 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: stories from inside the black Block. They tuned right back 473 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: with the backsports. 474 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: Where's Jack? Where's Jack? 475 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: Where is it Jack? 476 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 3: I want to see you. Great job, Jack, Thank you, 477 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 3: what a job you do. 478 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 4: You know, we have an incredible thing. 479 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: We're always talking about the fake. 480 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 4: News and the band, but we have guys, and these 481 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 4: are the guys you're forgetting. 482 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: Bullasushki All right, Jack Pisivic, We're back live here, Human 483 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: events daily, folks. Cold weather will be here before you 484 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: know it, and in many ways it's already here. 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You mentioned the 514 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: pervasive occult references that you saw, and occult you know, 515 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: I would almost call them like quasi inversions or false sacramentals. 516 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 4: You know. 517 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: Media Matters wrote me up last week for saying because 518 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: I said that Black Lives Matter was filled with demonic 519 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: and occult practices, but it's actually true. One of the 520 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: founders of Black Lives Matter, Patrise Clors, is a practitioner 521 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: of epha which is a voodoo religion, and these practices 522 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: which come up from Haiti include summoning circles, such as 523 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: standing around in a circle and chanting the name of 524 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: a deceased individual to try to summon their soul, like 525 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: Oh I don't know George Floyd or Breonna Taylor. Again, 526 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: the reason they chant these names, it's going back to 527 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: these older occult practices, pouring of libations, et cetera. And 528 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: so what pulling out that a little bit more I 529 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: saw there was the clip you guys mentioned about, you know, 530 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: Satan and the uh, you know, the Satanic Temple. What 531 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: other pieces of occult practices did you see there? 532 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, So it's kind of the foundation of their philosophy 533 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 7: and idology. Ideology goes to Satan, which is really interesting 534 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 7: because what I was hearing they talked about Satan as 535 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,239 Speaker 7: one of the first border crossers into Eden, so they 536 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 7: see Satan as this illegal immigrant. I asked them if 537 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 7: they think that the United States is a godly nation 538 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 7: or a Satanic nation. They said that any nation that 539 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 7: has hierarchy is godly and therefore should be pulled down. 540 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 7: So this is part of their ideology, is basically to 541 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 7: just bring chaos and burn it all down. And it's 542 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 7: kind of insidious how they're doing this because there were 543 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 7: children at this workshop, so you can see clips. A 544 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 7: child walks up to the Satanic anarchist table and takes 545 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 7: some Satanic propaganda so they're teaching children this, they're this 546 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 7: is just deep in the ideology, and so I think 547 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 7: we need to be aware of it and kind of 548 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 7: learn how they're thinking about these things. 549 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: That's that's so key because what goes hand in hand 550 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: with that is the idea of death, destruction, killing. And 551 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: of course we all just saw the killing of Turning 552 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: Point USA's leader Charlie Kirk just about one month ago. 553 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: It's almost two months ago, believe it or not. We're 554 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: getting up to the two month mark. Jonathan. This image 555 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: that you actually texted me over the weekend that I 556 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: got to see before you know, you know you your 557 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: guys had made this announcement that you had infiltrated. This 558 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: to me looked like a hit list, a kill list 559 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: that was printed up on the wall of journalists of 560 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: conservatives that were all over the wall of this antifa sel. 561 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: Describe it for me and tell me what you learned 562 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: about it. 563 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 5: So, Jack Carlin and I, along with citizen journalists Matthew Adams, 564 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 5: we were in two different spots. We first start off 565 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 5: in Oakland, and that's when they were using social media 566 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 5: to really warn people, especially about Carlin and her presence. 567 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 5: They knew that she could potentially infiltrate this space. Then 568 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 5: we fly to Seattle and that's when I see this 569 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 5: massive board again at the VERA Project. It is a 570 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 5: space within Climate Pledge Arena. This is where the Seattle 571 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 5: Kraken play. This is where the Seattle's WNBA team play. 572 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 5: So this is a place where you have, you know, 573 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 5: millions of people who visit every single year. And then 574 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 5: in this room, as soon as we walk in, there 575 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 5: is a massive board, so to speak, and they call 576 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 5: it the Fascist Wall. My photos on it, Matthew Adams 577 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 5: photos on it, Carlin's photos on it. Of course, your 578 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 5: colleague Katie Davis quote over at Post Millennial her photos 579 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 5: on it, along with other Pacific Northwest and West Coast journalists. 580 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 5: And basically it was not just a warning to keep 581 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 5: us out. I truly believe it was a warning to 582 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 5: the Antifa thugs who were mingling in this room to 583 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 5: look out for us and target us and to hurt us. 584 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 5: So we knew that going in, so we tried our 585 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 5: best to go in disguise. I was wearing a mask, 586 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 5: I was wearing a Queer Liberation shirt. But eventually towards 587 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 5: the tail end we were in there only for about 588 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 5: fifteen twenty minutes. 589 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 3: We were outed. 590 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 5: They recognized me, they recognized citizen journalist Matthew Adams after 591 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 5: all of his you know, coverage on the front lines here, 592 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 5: and we. 593 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 3: Had to book out of there asap, and they. 594 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 5: Sent about five six seven transgender activists after us. And 595 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 5: again that's how Antifa and these far left activists play. 596 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 5: They'll never come at us one on one, they'll send 597 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 5: like twenty people. So we got out of there, we 598 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 5: got the story. So that's what you're seeing right now. 599 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: And what sort of information did they have included on that, 600 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: because it does seem that so it's mentioning sort of 601 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: the list of crimes. But did this include and obviously 602 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: we're not going to zoom in because I don't know 603 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: if it's totally redacted. I'm sure you guys aren't going 604 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: to anything like that, but did it include things like addresses? Docs? 605 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: Is that type of stuff? 606 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 5: Well, it didn't have our specific addresses on the wall, 607 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 5: but I know that there's a similar wall right now 608 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 5: online with more details. What was on this were our photos, 609 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 5: our names, and also which cities we lived and operated in. 610 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 5: So again it was a call out to their comrades 611 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 5: to look out for us, especially in these protest hot 612 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 5: zones or these anarchist book fairs. And again I was 613 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 5: actually surprised at the planning and coordination. I have never 614 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 5: really been to these anarchist book fairs in Seattle. I've 615 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 5: known about them, but I had no idea what was 616 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 5: really happening inside. 617 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 3: And the fact that they went. 618 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 5: Out of their way to have security put up this 619 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 5: wall shows that this isn't just something that happens organically. 620 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 5: This was intentionally planned. This is a sophisticated operation. And again, 621 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 5: the anarchist book fairs are not these innocuous places to 622 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 5: just go pick up a good read. 623 00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 3: It's where they planned. 624 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 5: They strapgize, and they recruit, and they indoctrinate through their 625 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 5: far left violent propaganda. 626 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: And Jonathan, before I ask you have felt to see 627 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: your name of there? Is that a security system that 628 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 1: I see on the wall beneath the pictures? 629 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I didn't take a really close look, so 630 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 5: I'm looking at the same photo you do. But yeah, 631 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 5: there were cameras there as well. There were security guards. 632 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 5: They had people with walkie talkies. They were looking out 633 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 5: for us. They were also looking out for anyone who 634 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 5: looked like police officers or the FEDS, because they know 635 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 5: that they're going to be infiltrated eventually. 636 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: In that security. By the way, Jonathan, that security was 637 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: that armed security. 638 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 5: I couldn't tell, but they definitely had batons. I can 639 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 5: tell you that I didn't know if they had, you know, pistols, 640 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 5: but I'm sure. I just assume whenever I go to 641 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 5: these events, especially these direct actions, that the Antifa militants 642 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 5: at the very least have bear spray or knives. 643 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: But I didn't see any guns. But they had walkie talkies. 644 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 5: They were all masked up, and it was again coordinated, 645 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 5: and that's what was really concerning, and it was a 646 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 5: total risk for us to go in there, but we 647 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 5: made it out and we're thankful. 648 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: Well, like you see again, you know, you guys are 649 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: just s what you went up against. They say this 650 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: stuff doesn't exist. They've got sophisticated security, they've got communications security, 651 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: communications operations, com SEC where they're using walkie talkies because 652 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: obviously they're worried and clearly, by the way, the use 653 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: of walkie talkies or ham radios is a way to 654 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: attempt to circumvent police or a federal infiltration of their 655 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: comms because they're worried about their cell phones being infiltrated 656 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: or wire tapped by the FBI. That's one of the 657 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: reasons that you see them practicing comsack like that. I 658 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: remember in Chaz in twenty twenty, they were using microphones 659 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 1: and walkie talkies with push the talk that was operated 660 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: over Bluetooth, like a Bluetooth mesh network. So what they 661 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: would be doing is they would set up a digital 662 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: network locally with local repeaters and local routers. That wasn't 663 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: so they're not even operating off the cell phone towers, 664 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: but it was basically just from within the Chaz itself, 665 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: and they could communicate from one one checkpoint to another checkpoint. 666 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: And in those cases they were armed with the John 667 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: Brown Gun Club of Puget Sound, with both long rifles 668 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 1: and handguns. I remember at one point when Katie Davis 669 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: Court was there, I was in infiltrated in cover the 670 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: same way you were, and she was not, and I 671 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: could see there was a guy who walked right up 672 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: to her with a looked like a glock nine millimeter 673 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: in his waistband and got very very close, and I 674 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: certainly kept my eyes close on that gun and close 675 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: on his hands while he was very close to her 676 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 1: like that, and of course saw them pulled multiple times 677 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: by ras Simone and others when we were there late 678 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: in the night. Jack Posobic on with the incredible Turning 679 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: Point front Lines team infiltrated Antifa this weekend. All the 680 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: details right back when we continued Human Events Daily. 681 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 2: Jack is a great guy. 682 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: He's written a fantastic look and everybody's. 683 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 5: Talking about it. 684 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: Go get it that. 685 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 4: He's been my friend right from the beginning of this 686 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 4: whole beautiful event and. 687 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 5: We're going to turn her around and make our. 688 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: Country way to get you. Hey man, all right, folks, 689 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: Jack Posobic we are back Human Events Daily. We're talking 690 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: about the incredible infiltration operation, the Turning Point USA Frontlines 691 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: team Ran and guys Jonathan. Let me ask you if 692 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: people want to continue to support your operations, I'd be 693 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: remiss if I didn't put this out. How can they 694 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: go and support Frontlines? 695 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, thanks for asking. 696 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 5: You know, first of all, you can follow me at 697 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 5: show show c h O E s h O W 698 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 5: cour and of course our Frontlines team at Frontlines tp 699 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 5: U s A and you know we always want to 700 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 5: partner up with people who may want to fund one 701 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 5: of these trips because we need the support. And if 702 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 5: you can't, just click the subscribe button and follow us 703 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 5: and just send these stories out to the rest of 704 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 5: your friends. America really needs to see what's happening here 705 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 5: right now in independent media guys like us, we're the 706 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 5: only ones showing it right now. And this is really 707 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 5: happening in American cities. And as you and Kevin were 708 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 5: discussing earlier, it really now has come down to a 709 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 5: fight between good and evil. In fact, it's always been 710 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 5: like that, but I'm seeing it now more than ever. 711 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 5: This really is spiritual warfare. 712 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: No, it is six seven Kevin. You know, on the 713 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: question of the technological side, you know, when you go 714 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: to conduct one of these operations, what sort of tech, 715 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 1: what sort of you know, filming equipment were you guys using. 716 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean we have to be pretty covert here 717 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 7: because obviously they put up about hundreds of posters that 718 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 7: say no filming, no recording, and they will kick you 719 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 7: out immediately, and they have all of these guards standing 720 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 7: around and they're just watching you like I had people 721 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 7: looking at me like you know, he looks a little 722 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 7: too straight, but they just couldn't, you know, be for 723 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 7: sure that I was doing something. But we had spy sunglasses, 724 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,879 Speaker 7: so if you see the six foot seven perspective looking down, 725 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 7: that's my angle. And then Jonathan also had his own sunglasses, 726 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 7: and then both of us were miked up with audio 727 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 7: as well, so when we couldn't record with the sunglasses, 728 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 7: we were getting the audio. So it was an amalgamation 729 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 7: of a lot, even some iPhone footage as well. But 730 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 7: then by the end we did get outed and a 731 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 7: leftist basically was putting tape over my sunglasses and told 732 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 7: me to leave. So didn't work that great. 733 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: Well again, you know, it's it's that incredible use of technology. 734 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: The incredible is not Jonathan. You don't you don't have 735 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: those those spyglasses on right now. That's not what those are, 736 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: are they? 737 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,399 Speaker 3: No, these are just my regular Gucci sunglasses. 738 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: But okay, that's what he Yeah, he says that now, 739 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: he says that now. But in all seriousness, you were 740 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 1: you mentioned something earlier that I wanted to get into 741 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,439 Speaker 1: this sort of you know, Kevin was telling us about 742 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: the interplay there, and I remember this when I was 743 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: in the Chaz. It really does operate like a sort 744 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: of mini community when you're inside these things, doesn't it. 745 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what was so fascinating for me when 746 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 3: I went there. 747 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 5: And again everyone assumed that initially we were leftists, right, 748 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 5: that we were for this cause. 749 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 3: They called us comrades and so on and so forth. 750 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 5: Everyone was so generous and giving, giving us free pamphlets, 751 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 5: free posters, giving us discounts. A lot of the material was, 752 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 5: you know, if there was a charge, there would be 753 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 5: a sliding scale. They would say, whatever you can afford, 754 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,399 Speaker 5: but just take it and give it to someone else. 755 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 5: I also saw homeless teenagers. One fella said he was 756 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 5: kicked out from his house because he came out to 757 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 5: his parents as LGBTQ, and that's unfortunate. 758 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 3: But overall, this again feel a family community is what. 759 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 5: These disenfranchised young people are looking for, and unfortunately they're 760 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 5: finding it here. But what I really believe, I know that, 761 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 5: you know, when it comes to even our coverage sometimes 762 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 5: you know, I'll say it again, the ideology is dangerous, 763 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 5: it's violent, it's evil. But these people can all be redeemed. 764 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 5: But unfortunately, right now they're all lost. 765 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: And that's and that's what's so said Kevin. You know, 766 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned that praying for these people, and I think 767 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: that's a big part of it. But also from a 768 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: from a governmental perspective. At the same time, the federal government, 769 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: you guys broke the story that the crackdown has begun 770 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: on the financial and network investigation of these guys. You know, Kevin, 771 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: from that perspective what we've learned, do you think, as 772 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 1: committed as they are, that they'll stop unless the government 773 00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 1: does something. 774 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 7: We're not going to stop. And even if there is 775 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 7: a huge amount of government action, which it might require overreach, 776 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 7: which I don't agree with either, because so much of 777 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 7: this operation is decentralized. We went to their anti ice 778 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 7: workshop and they told us part of why they were 779 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,319 Speaker 7: so successful is that it is decentralized, that there isn't 780 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 7: just one nonprofit that you can defund and it just collapses. Antifa. 781 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 7: I was actually at a brewery and I was talking 782 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 7: to this gentleman that ended up being a Chase executive 783 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 7: president there and he admitted to me that he was 784 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 7: actually a communist and that he had funded some of 785 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 7: these Antifa groups. So he told me he had given 786 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 7: them ten thousand dollars in cash at a protest at 787 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 7: one point just dropped it off. He'll just bring them coffee, 788 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 7: he'll bring them food. So it's so decentralized. Some of 789 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 7: this is cash, some of this you can't track. So 790 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 7: this is going to be terribly difficult to actually tramp out. 791 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: And I think that's exactly right, because it's something that 792 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: we learned with these committed communists over time that they 793 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: do have this sort of romantic belief and Jonathan, would 794 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 1: you describe it as sort of a romantic utopian belief 795 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: system that they seem to have thrown themselves into. 796 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 5: It really is, this is their subculture, this is their 797 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 5: ideal worldview, right, But again, I believe they've been brainwashed. 798 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 5: This is because a lot of these young men and 799 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 5: women they don't have purpose in life, They've been kicked 800 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 5: out of their homes, they don't fit in. One of 801 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 5: the analysts that I talked to in the Oakland area, 802 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 5: off the you know, outside of the story, he basically said, 803 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 5: these were the kids who felt like they were outcasts 804 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 5: and losers in high school. They weren't even necessarily the 805 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 5: smart kids, but they're the ones just in the corner cafeteria. 806 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 5: But then now they've all grown up and they found 807 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 5: each other. So they formed not only this family, but 808 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 5: a gang, and a gang now with purpose to go 809 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 5: out and cause chaos ultimately to usher in this violent revolution, 810 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 5: to bring this what they believe is a utopia. And 811 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 5: right now America doesn't fit that vision well. 812 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 1: And it goes all the way back to the French Revolution. 813 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 1: The French Revolution had that commune system, and that's exactly 814 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: what you're describing. These are modern communes. And when the 815 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: modern iteration of antifa got started in really in West 816 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 1: Berlin in the nineteen sixties, that's exactly how they started. 817 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: They were in they were in buildings that had been 818 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: abandoned in World War Two and they sort of set 819 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: up shop as squatters. And that's really where the ottoman 820 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: as they call themselves back then, came from. And that, 821 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: of course is back from the prior iteration of antifa 822 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 1: during the Inner War period when they were used to 823 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: destabilize the Weimar Republic. But you go back to these 824 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: French Revolution references, and of course that goes all the 825 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: way up to the main streaming of the French Revolution 826 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,439 Speaker 1: and Antifa phrase no kings that goes all the way 827 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: back to the French Revolution. No Kings, no Masters is 828 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,840 Speaker 1: a phrase that was used. It has been used for 829 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: hundreds of years. That's certainly been used by Antifa since 830 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: they've come back around, and it was used by the Jacobins. 831 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 1: No Kings, no Lords was the original phrasing, and now 832 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:25,320 Speaker 1: it's been completely mainstreamed in cities across the country. Final question, 833 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,000 Speaker 1: I suppose to let's go, Let's start with Kevin. Kevin, 834 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: given what you've seen, would it surprise you to think 835 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: that the organizers of the No Kings and organizers of 836 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: these Antifa cells have some overlap. 837 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 7: It definitely could be overlap, but it also could be 838 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 7: just organic and it could be just springing up naturally 839 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 7: in their own areas. What is interesting, and I'll quote 840 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 7: Star Wars on this. This is from Star Wars and Or, 841 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 7: but this character says, when the empire cracks down, it's 842 00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 7: overreached stronger, it only makes the rebellion stronger. So is 843 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 7: all of these talks about cracking down on Antifa and 844 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 7: National Guard increase. It's almost bolstering the morale of these 845 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 7: individuals and making more of these people pop up and 846 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 7: want to rebel so you know they're only getting stronger, 847 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 7: it seems. 848 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, well this this is the situation and it won't 849 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: stop until it stopped. Jonathan Choe Choe show A six 850 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: seven Kevin, do you have social media? Want to put out? 851 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 6: Sure? 852 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, six seven Kevin one on Twitter and then six 853 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 7: seven Kevin on YouTube. Document make sure the. 854 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: Gentlemen, thank you so much for your work. Be safe, 855 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 1: but don't quit. 856 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 3: Jack, Thanks, thanks, jo. 857 00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 1: Amen. We'll get it out there. And I said to everybody, 858 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,280 Speaker 1: I said, we're gonna spread this one like the plague. 859 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. As always, you have my permission to 860 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 1: lay a short