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Speaker 1: All right, second hour of Clay and Buck comes in

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Speaker 1: right now. Thanks for being here with us calling out

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Speaker 1: the top every hour, manufacturing delusion, public manufacturing delusion, how

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Speaker 1: the left uses brainwashing, indoctrination and propaganda against you. My

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Speaker 1: book took eighteen months to write, six months with the

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Speaker 1: CIA to queer. That's why I've been talking about this forever.

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Speaker 1: It's finally out today. You can have it delivered to

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Speaker 1: your home tomorrow. You can download the audio book now.

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Speaker 1: Well wait to laugh at the radio show, of course,

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Speaker 1: but today, I mean you can download the audio book.

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Speaker 1: I read it, so it's in my voice. Had a

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Speaker 1: tiny bit of a cold, so if I sound a

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Speaker 1: little husky, it's not because I'm trying to.

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Speaker 2: Sound more literary.

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Speaker 3: I had a little bit of a cold when I

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Speaker 3: did the recording.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Clay and I are two guys who

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Speaker 1: do a lot of media but also write our own books.

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Speaker 1: So this is my book offering for all of you.

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Speaker 1: Please go check it out. Let's beat that John Meacham book.

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Speaker 1: He's a Trump hater, he's a smug lib and he

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Speaker 1: has a book out today. So that's in your hands,

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Speaker 1: my friends. And yeah, let's also I think you'll find

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Speaker 1: some interesting stuff in the book.

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Speaker 3: Historically, like I talk about really the origin.

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Speaker 1: Of the secret police, as we know, a clay, just

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Speaker 1: like a couple of little you know, leaving some breadcrumbs here,

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Speaker 1: the origin of the Gestapo, and also of the Cheka,

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Speaker 1: which was the and the Okrana, which were different versions

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Speaker 1: of under the Czar and then Postedar Russian Soviet later

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Speaker 1: Soviet secret police started with I've in the Terrible Clay.

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Speaker 1: I've in the Terrible in the sixteenth century had a

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Speaker 1: group that was loyal only to him called the olpritch Niki,

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Speaker 1: and they dressed in all black, and they rode around

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Speaker 1: on black horses, and they had severed dogs heads that

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Speaker 1: they carried on their saddles just to scare the crap

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Speaker 1: out of everybody. And they had total would work for me,

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Speaker 1: extra judicial authority to terrorize, kill, torture anybody who they

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Speaker 1: deemed to be an opponent of Ivan, an opponent of

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Speaker 1: his monarchy, of the regime and the Nazis and Stalin.

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Speaker 1: They were very aware of this. This is history that

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Speaker 1: people forget about, but this was very real. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: they just like if you're like history, because I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about the currents. I feel like history. It's in the

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Speaker 1: book and you'll find some really cool stories. I threw

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Speaker 1: in some CIA stuff I talked about Nigeria. I think

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Speaker 1: I have to share a photo Clay. I didn't put

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Speaker 1: it in the book, obviously. I haven't shared it yet

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Speaker 1: of me in the Wesley Snipes VIP lounge twenty years

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Speaker 1: ago in Abuja, Nigeria. Yeah, it was quite in front

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Speaker 1: of an oil painting of Wesley.

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Speaker 3: It's true. There had a big oil painting they commissioned

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Speaker 3: because he went there. So that was uh.

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Speaker 1: And this was one of these things too where Clay

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Speaker 1: I was so junior and so young that when I

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Speaker 1: told my office, hey, I'll go wherever, like one of

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Speaker 1: the bosses, who was kind of a salty old guy,

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Speaker 1: was like, all right, nobody wants to go to Nigeria

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Speaker 1: on this min Like, we'll send you. And when I

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Speaker 1: was over there, people found out home. They were like,

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Speaker 1: you're like a trainee. What the hell are you doing there?

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Speaker 1: You should be in you know, you should be eating

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Speaker 1: crumpets with the ambassador in London or something like what

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Speaker 1: are you doing? It's pretty funny actually, They're like do

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Speaker 1: you want to are you Okay, do you want to

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Speaker 1: come back you've only been No, I'm good.

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Speaker 3: Actually had a really really interesting experience there. I got it.

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Speaker 1: I got to do crazy you know, class un Nigeria

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Speaker 1: about six weeks.

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Speaker 2: That's a pretty long time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh no, I was there like for a while. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was not a quick It was not a quick

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Speaker 1: visit and moving and moving around the country. So that

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Speaker 1: was my first experience overseas with the agency. It was

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Speaker 1: pretty pretty fun, pretty cool stuff. And obviously Nigeria is

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Speaker 1: a Trump just we had missile strikes there recently. We

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Speaker 1: just we actually just had to play I think in

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Speaker 1: the last few days. US Forces arriving in Nigeria. Now

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Speaker 1: the training quote unquote is a little more than just training,

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Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying. So, uh yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 1: there's some other some other kind of fun little background

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Speaker 3: U you know, Afghanistan, Iraq, all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Clay, So it all ties in and now let's

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Speaker 1: talk Trump speaking of international relations.

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Speaker 3: Here is Trump at Air Force One.

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Speaker 1: Last night, AOC was in Munich and we discussed that.

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Speaker 3: Was the answer.

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Speaker 1: Actually, people say it was Kamala esque, But was it

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Speaker 1: worse than Kamala because Kamala I think because she'd never

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Speaker 3: It just turned into words.

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Speaker 4: I think it's worse because some of the things that

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Speaker 4: Kamala would stumble over and everything else were I can't

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Speaker 4: believe I'm defending Kamala on this, but were questions that

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Speaker 4: even tried to give AOC some cover here to some extent.

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Speaker 4: You know, she went to a foreign affairs event and

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Speaker 2: If you are going.

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Speaker 4: To a foreign affairs event and know you are speaking there,

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Speaker 4: you should know the ten most likely things that you're

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Speaker 4: going to be asked and have a good answer for

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Speaker 4: them getting asked, as you well know, because you just

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Speaker 4: came back from Taiwan. Getting asked what America's response should

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Speaker 4: be in the event that Taiwan is invaded by China

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Speaker 4: is a foundational question of American foreign policy that has

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Speaker 4: been discussed for generations, and she's been an elected and

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Speaker 4: It would be like, oh, it would be like Kamala

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Speaker 4: going to a pro choice rally and not having an

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Speaker 4: think even Kamala Harris watched that answer and was embarrassed

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Speaker 4: by it. Let me say this too, it must be

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Speaker 4: blowing up on AOC in a negative way because she

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Speaker 4: called The New York Times last night did you see this?

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Speaker 4: And gave a statement basically on what she was trying

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Speaker 4: to say in that statement. And when you call Pravda

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Speaker 4: that's being talked about here, I think it's evidence that

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Speaker 4: it's even registering on the Democrat side. I might have

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Speaker 4: left winger, you're not even gonna hear about this, I

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Speaker 4: think on social media, partly because Elon has the ability

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Speaker 4: to have a free marketplace, I think AOC's answer was

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Speaker 4: so bad it was getting attention. I'll also say this,

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Speaker 4: I think some of AOC's rivals that expect that she

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Speaker 4: as an opportunity to kind of kneecap her with the

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Speaker 4: what I miscalculated was how other Democrats out there might

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Speaker 4: right now, where everybody tries to convince people that they

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Speaker 4: think it managed to register and give producer Greg is

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Speaker 4: out today. But his mix which we played yesterday of

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Speaker 4: Miss South Carolina and AOC was very well received on

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Speaker 4: as well. So uh So I do think that this

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Speaker 4: that is the reality there. And speaking of the uh

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Speaker 4: or we're you gonna hit us with?

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Speaker 3: So well, no I was I was just gonna say, Clay.

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Speaker 1: Uh Trump weighed in on this, yes, going to that's

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Speaker 1: whereas Trump weighed in on what AOC says, Uh, here

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Speaker 1: we go play, Uh, we'll play Trump talking about this

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Speaker 5: I watch AOC answering questions in Munich. This was not

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Speaker 5: a good look for the United States. I watched Gavin

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Speaker 5: Nuskam answering question h Munich, and this was a banned

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Speaker 5: look for our country. This was a band. These people

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Speaker 5: are in company. And at least Sailor is confident. She's

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Speaker 5: just Trump deranged. She was so deranged. She is an

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Speaker 5: angry woman. But I watched the other two speaking and

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Speaker 5: answering basic questions. The Gavin has destroyed California and AOC

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Speaker 5: I've never heard her speak very much, and they started

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Speaker 5: answering questions.

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Speaker 3: She had no idea what was happening, She.

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Speaker 5: Had no idea, had to answer, you know, very important

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Speaker 2: I I think that.

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Speaker 4: Here is my thought in general, and I think it

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Speaker 4: ties in with Gavin Newsom going after Ted Cruz. Whatever

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Speaker 4: you think about jd Vance, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley.

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Speaker 4: I could run through a long list. They are really

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Speaker 4: buck And every time she answers questions. Now, she's skilled

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Speaker 4: she doesn't have it. And look, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton,

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Speaker 4: you disagree with them. I think they're actually pretty smart people.

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Speaker 4: I'll give you another couple of rama. Manuel sounds like

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Speaker 4: may not agree with him. I think he's a pretty

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Speaker 4: smart guy. Jasmine Crockett AOC. Gavin Newsom, did you see

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Speaker 4: him coming after Ted Cruz because Ted Cruz called him

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Speaker 4: historically illiterate?

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Speaker 2: Did you see that?

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Speaker 1: Yes, of course, and it proved proved historically illiterate. It's crazy,

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Speaker 4: For those of you who didn't see it, maybe we

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Speaker 4: have the audio or we can pull it because Ted Cruz,

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Speaker 4: a part of the iHeart Network. On his Verdict podcast,

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Speaker 4: he was walking through Ted Cruz and basically saying, like

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Speaker 4: he's historically illiterate. He doesn't understand the history of federal

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Speaker 4: and state I'm paraphrasing, but federal and state power and

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Speaker 4: how that interaction occurs. And Governor Gavin Newsom or his

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Speaker 4: staff grabbed that and said, this is a new low,

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Speaker 4: even for Ted Cruz. How dare he attack me for

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Speaker 4: being dyslexic? But I'm sorry, Like we use that phrase

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Speaker 3: I mean, no one knows. No one knows that Gavin

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Speaker 4: We'll do research on what the Hillary bar passage is.

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Speaker 3: Always pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming to hang out on clan Buck

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Speaker 7: do that. For the state law. We want to be

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Speaker 7: able to say no, if that federal if that county

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Speaker 7: federal government, they can go ahead and we will step

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Speaker 7: in and represent them and defend them if in fact

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Speaker 7: the state comes after from So that's part of what

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Speaker 7: we want to pass in our bill next week. Not

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Speaker 7: to mention, if you're one of these states and you

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Speaker 7: have sanctuary city policies, there should be some ramifications in

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Speaker 7: the federal funding that comes in certain grant programs to

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Speaker 7: your state. And then finally, we want to put in

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Speaker 7: the bill as well, if you're a family or an

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Speaker 7: individual who's been harmed by someone who was led out

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Speaker 7: who should have been not released to the streets but

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Speaker 7: released to ice, if they let that individual out and

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Speaker 7: they do something harmful to you or your family, you

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Speaker 7: have a private right of action. That's the only way

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Speaker 7: I can see that we can address this problem and

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Speaker 7: deal with what again, thirty one point five percent of

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Speaker 7: the United States population is living under as we speak.

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Speaker 7: That's how important this is. And again, as I said,

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Speaker 7: if we don't address this, I don't know how you

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Speaker 7: get a handle on all this situation.

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Speaker 1: How are we doing when it comes to maintaining control

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Speaker 1: of the House. I know we're early, but we are

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Speaker 1: on a midterm cycle. How do you see this? What

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Speaker 1: do you feel like are the top issues? Obviously Trump

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Speaker 1: administrations dialing in here on the economy, affordability, but also

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Speaker 1: I haveble to look at some pretty impressive numbers on

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Speaker 1: GDP and obviously you know the stock market has has

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Speaker 1: been rocketing up. So what do you see as the

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Speaker 1: central Is it just going to be the economy? Immigration? Election?

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Speaker 1: Is healthcare going to play a bigger role as you

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Speaker 1: move along? How do you see it?

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Speaker 7: And in the general sense, I think modern day campaigns

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Speaker 7: are pretty basic. Tell, tell, go, tell the people what

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Speaker 7: you did. We ran for the job you guys elected.

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Speaker 7: Here's what we did, We did what we said and

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Speaker 7: you can say, we've secured the border, We've cut taxed

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Speaker 7: as record tacks that the record time, and securing the border.

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Speaker 7: We gave school choice to parents, and the big, beautiful bill,

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Speaker 7: and we can rattle off all the things we've done,

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Speaker 7: and then I think it's always important in modern politics

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Speaker 7: to remind the voters what happens if the left gets

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Speaker 7: back in charge. Never forget to remind the voters the

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Speaker 7: left is crazy. It's crazy to defund the police. It's

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Speaker 7: crazy to say you want to bollisize. It's crazy not

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Speaker 7: to have a border, which is all the things that

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Speaker 7: were taking place under the previous administration. It's crazy to

485
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Speaker 7: shut down the government for forty three days. It's crazy

486
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Speaker 7: to have this sanctuary city policy where you release bad

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Speaker 7: guys onto the street who do harm to people in

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Speaker 7: those communities when you could have turned them over to

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Speaker 7: federal law enforcement. So I think we have to remind

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Speaker 7: the voters of that as we move forward, and then

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Speaker 7: also underscore I do think the economy is improving. We

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Speaker 7: had four point three percent growth last quarter, stock markets

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Speaker 7: had fifty thousand. I mean, it's like unbelievable what we're seeing.

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Speaker 7: So remind the voters of that as well. But that's

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Speaker 7: what campaigns are. We're going to say one thing, they're

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Speaker 7: going to say another. We're going to have the debate

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Speaker 7: and the people get to decide, But I feel like

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Speaker 7: we've got a good story to tell, particularly when we

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Speaker 7: also remind the voters remember what happens when the left

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Speaker 7: in charge. We can go back to that if they

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Speaker 7: if they win this, Mitchell, I think.

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Speaker 4: This important argument you just made. And let me give

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Speaker 4: you an example that I think you're going to be

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Speaker 4: nod in your head at because it's just across the

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Speaker 4: Potomac from where you are. Abigail Spanberger got elected in Virginia.

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Speaker 4: She ran one hundred percent as a moderate, as a

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Speaker 4: no nonsense mom who just wants to be a normal leader.

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Speaker 4: She has gotten in office and in her first month

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Speaker 4: in Virginia, they're trying to knock Republicans down to one

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Speaker 4: congressional seat. They have embraced far left winging, crazy talent agendas,

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Speaker 4: tax increases have come across. She in one month has

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Speaker 4: demonstrated that she is actually a radical leftist. I like

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Speaker 4: what you said, Jim, because Trump is maybe the most

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Speaker 4: transactional president that we've ever seen in that he said here,

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Speaker 4: there's the list of things I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 2: This is what I'm going to run on.

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Speaker 4: And then he got into office and he basically just

518
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Speaker 4: went right down the list. Check check, check, check check,

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Speaker 4: whereas they lie and do the opposite of what they

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Speaker 4: claim they're going to do.

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Speaker 7: Great, great point, and you could add to that list

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Speaker 7: to what Governor Samberger is focused on too, is taking

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Speaker 7: away people's Second Amendment rights in the state of Virginia.

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Speaker 7: So it just she ran as the quote moderate governor

525
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Speaker 7: who is you know, had a background in the CIA

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Speaker 7: and working in the military. She ran that individual and

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Speaker 7: gets in and does all the left wing things. And

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Speaker 7: you're right on the on the redistricting, they're looking to

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Speaker 7: take a six' five Six, democrats Five republicans In virginia

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Speaker 7: to ten to, one and they got all this this the,

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Speaker 7: spider you, know these links coming out from Northern virginia

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Speaker 7: all over the. State so, yeah THAT i think again

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Speaker 7: remind the voters this is who the left, is and

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Speaker 7: the left now controls The Democrat party and they will

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Speaker 7: go for all these all these crazy. POLICIES i still

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Speaker 7: maybe we talked about this, before But Sara Huckaby sanders

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Speaker 7: a few years ago use this all the. Time BUT

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Speaker 7: i thought it was well. Done she gave the response

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Speaker 7: to The stay of The, union and her best line

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Speaker 7: was When she said that divide In america the day

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Speaker 7: is normal versus, crazy and you can go down the

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Speaker 7: list of all the crazy policies the left. HAS i

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Speaker 7: think it's always important to remind the voters that that's the.

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Speaker 7: Case and when you, do the vast majority of voters

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Speaker 7: are common since, people and they'll Elect.

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Speaker 1: Republicans the congressman to, that to that end of normal versus.

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Speaker 1: Crazy we started off the show talking about the horrific

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Speaker 1: shooting In Rhode island involving a CLEARLY i mean you

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Speaker 1: just look at a photo of the. Guy the guy's,

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Speaker 1: drained the, guys, yeah, okay clearly Not, yeah kills his own.

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Speaker 1: Family the whole, thing a, horrible horrible, situation horrible. Story

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Speaker 1: we know that there have been a series of these shooting,

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Speaker 1: shootings you, know high profile mass murder shootings involving these

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Speaker 1: individuals who are psychotic and who are you, know self

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Speaker 1: identify as trans and the whole. Thing Do democrat colleagues

556
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Speaker 1: In congress really believe eve this transgender ideology stuff on

557
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Speaker 1: the on the whole in general or are they just

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Speaker 1: too scared of the ten to fifteen percent of the

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Speaker 1: radical left of their, Party Like i'm just wondering if

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Speaker 1: you can give us some context here for you, know

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Speaker 1: Because Hakeem jeffries really think there's no difference between a

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Speaker 1: man and a, woman that babies are assigned gender at.

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Speaker 1: Birth does he believe? That if you sit down over

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Speaker 1: key with him or coffee or whatever is you're, like,

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Speaker 1: yeah babies get assign gender at, birth BECAUSE i want

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Speaker 1: to See Congressman jeffrey say that if he believes.

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Speaker 7: That, YEAH i think the vast majority don't believe. That

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Speaker 7: BUT i think again we're back to the energy in

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Speaker 7: their part almost has embraced, this you, know this whole transgender,

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Speaker 7: thing and i'll host of other crazy policies and that's

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Speaker 7: that's the. Energy so that's where they get the, financing

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Speaker 7: that's where they get the Campaign. Vold it's driven by.

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Speaker 7: Politics SO i do think that's the. Case. Again it's

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Speaker 7: it's like time and time, again we see these these

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Speaker 7: crazy things, happen and the left will go defend the

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Speaker 7: transgender policies out there that that that seem to be

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Speaker 7: part of. This SO i don't think they buy, it

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Speaker 7: BUT i do think it's driven by the hard left

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Speaker 7: and the politics that are associated.

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Speaker 3: With that.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 4: Stuff as always have you been watching The Winter. Olympics

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Speaker 4: how do you think you'd do as a.

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Speaker 7: Curler i'm fascinated by the whole, thing So i'll click

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Speaker 7: it on and watch a little bit of fits and

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Speaker 7: then of course the, controversy you know that was, Unbelievable

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Speaker 7: like is what his? FINGER i think it was The

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Speaker 7: CANADIAN i forget what, Team like his finger touched an

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Speaker 7: extra little, pusher a little spin or something like, wow

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Speaker 7: go go go. Figure so, Yeah i'm in fascinated by.

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Speaker 7: It BUT i actually prefer the sports work, here like

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Speaker 7: like the cross country, skiing like that is just those

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Speaker 7: people are just. Tough SO i got kind of like

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Speaker 7: watching some of that.

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Speaker 4: One see the video of a guy running uphill on

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Speaker 4: skis at a six minute mile. PACE i mean that

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Speaker 4: is one of the craziest things of.

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Speaker 7: A no kid no, Kid so those guys are and

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Speaker 7: the speed, skating this The stoles, GUY i, think who's

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Speaker 7: won so mini. Medals he's like old. SCHOOL i saw

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Speaker 7: and that's how you. Win not so much of the you,

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Speaker 4: Mentality good stuff is always, congressman come on with us

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Speaker 4: not MATCH dna In nancy's home and also didn't have

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Speaker 4: a hit on.

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Speaker 2: Codis that is buck they did A dna, test they FOUND.

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Speaker 4: Dna they still have no idea, who at least according to,

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Speaker 4: this they still have no idea who was potentially In

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Speaker 4: Nancy guthrie's.

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Speaker 1: Home it is a little bit strange play to see

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Speaker 1: how much media, coverage kind of ongoing media, coverage this

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Speaker 1: gets with almost nothing. Happening it's just The. Olympics people

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Speaker 1: have no. Idea it's just people showing up ON tv

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00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: explaining the basics of, procedure Which i'll be honest with.

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Speaker 3: You you, know if.

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Speaker 1: You watch Enough law And order IN, csi you already

665
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: know about eighty eighty percent of that. Stuff and then

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Speaker 1: just people, saying here's my. THEORY i don't know why

667
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: there's that much fascination with that, speculation but, look we

668
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Speaker 1: just want this woman to be returned home safe and.

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Speaker 1: SOUND i just from a news coverage, standpoint it's remarkable to.

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Speaker 1: Me clearly this is getting, ratings but people are watching,

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Speaker 1: this you, know like a war is about to start or.

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Speaker 1: SOMETHING i, mean there's such a fascination and there's not anything.

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Speaker 1: Happening women love true.

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Speaker 4: CRIME i mean that that, is that is a one

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Speaker 4: data analyzed.

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Speaker 2: Truth women not say some men don't.

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Speaker 4: Too but if you go look at all these podcasts

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Speaker 4: that are true, crime if you go look at all

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Speaker 4: the television shows that are true crime, based women are

680
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Speaker 4: obsessed with crime. Stories so my bet would be that

681
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Speaker 4: if you break down because they don't put on these

682
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Speaker 4: stories constantly unless there is some direct connection to the, ratings,

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Speaker 4: right people, say, oh they're just throwing like no. THERE

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Speaker 4: i Mean Fox, NEWS, msnbc AND cnn are in the ratings.

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Speaker 4: Business this stuff rates. HIGHLY i think it's. Women women

686
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Speaker 4: are obsessed with true crime. Stories, now the problem leaving

687
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Speaker 4: aside the actual crime that took place is what you're hitting.

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Speaker 4: On most true crime stories have, Evolution there is a plot,

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Speaker 4: Point you learn more information as you go. ALONG i

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Speaker 4: don't know that we know anything more really right now

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Speaker 4: than we.

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Speaker 2: Knew what is it she.

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Speaker 4: Disappeared about seventeen days ago something like. THAT i don't

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Speaker 4: know that we know much more than what we knew

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Speaker 4: the day or two after this.

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Speaker 1: Happened is there even a primary you're following this more

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Speaker 1: closely THAN i. Am is there even a primary theory

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Speaker 1: right now about what? Happened LIKE i, mean the most

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Speaker 1: common theory that is a far and.

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Speaker 4: AWAY i think the most common theory has been That

701
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Speaker 4: Savannah guthrie's family was, involved at least. Online that has

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Speaker 4: been specifically shot down by the sheriff there, saying we

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00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 4: have investigated everybody involved in the. Family there are zero

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00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: connections of the. Family the family is not, Involved but

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Speaker 4: WHEN i look, online that's been the one that people

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Speaker 4: are talking about the. Most, again according to the, sheriff

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Speaker 4: that is not. True so anyway That glove did, not

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Speaker 4: at least based on the public, commentary change the trajectory

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Speaker 4: of this story very.

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Speaker 2: Much and we come.

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Speaker 4: Back Texas senate voting has begun in the. Primary what's going,

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Speaker 4: On we'll tell you