WEBVTT - It’s a Bone Rattling Listener Extravaganza 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:12.680 What's that at the bed spooky? Hey juky, I'm really 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:16.440 sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:22.960 I'm ghosted. I los Nanda's. 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:25.280 Pa. 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:32.920 Hey boo, it's me Roz, and welcome to Ghosted by 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:36.640 Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people that 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:46.760 I like about the paranormal. It's a listener episode. I 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.520 love these so much. You know you can be on one. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.360 You know how to do it. You just go to 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:58.720 your email. You type in ghosted by Roz at gmail 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:04.039 dot com. You write listener story in the subject line, 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:08.760 and then you give me bullet points of your stories, 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:12.960 like no more than one sentence per bullet point. 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Lex grew up 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:10.040 in a haunted house. Take it away a Lex. Oh 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:15.399 my god. I'm joined by Lex in Ontario. 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:16.680 Hi. 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.400 Hello, how are you? 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.519 I'm very well? How are you? 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.160 You just seem like such a nice Canadian person? 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:26.160 Oh? 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:27.760 Thank you? 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:32.600 You're like so sweet. You're just like so nice. And 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.440 I don't know, I want to go to Canada. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:38.880 Please come. You're very welcome here. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.079 Oh that's exactly what I want to hear a Canadian 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:46.760 person say, that's so nice. Tell me a ghost story. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:48.679 Are there ghosts in Canada? 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:50.680 There are so many. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:55.800 I'm a fourth generation Canadian. I've lived in Niagara my 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.560 whole life. My family has always been here, and I 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:03.080 feel that Niagara is a hot spot for the ghosts. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.400 Do you think it's one of those like because of 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:09.000 the water, like the yeah, the current. 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.600 As you know, people say that there's some some kind 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:15.520 of connection between water and ghosts. 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:17.160 I think definitely. 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.840 Like I've always lived along the Niagara River Parkway, so 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.560 it's the water leading right up to Niagara Falls. 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:24.640 I'm just minutes away. 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.359 And I think it's some kind of a conduit for spirits. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:31.960 We've had the underground railroad, the War of eighteen twelve, 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:36.960 It's literally a battlefield in this area, bootlegging history, so 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:41.080 many things that would contribute to ghost happenings. 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:45.120 Those ghosts are thirsty. They just won't think that water 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:46.200 gives them something. 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:47.000 I think. 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:50.600 So, So, did you live in a haunted house or 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.000 have you lived in haunted houses or what's the deal? 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.360 Yeah, I've lived in a few houses along the Niagara 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.640 River Parkway and they've all had some sort of element 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:03.520 of gold. But if I were to tell the origin 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:08.040 tale of my ghost history, we called it the Old 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:11.320 White House. It's where I was born into. It's a farmhouse. 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.400 My family had a horse farm there. And the first 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.720 I remember hearing anything about ghosts at all was when 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.719 I was a toddler. Them doing renovations in the house, 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:25.200 and the people who were working there, like construction workers, electricians, 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:30.520 et cetera, reporting doors, slamming windows opening, things being misplaced, 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:32.479 and it just took off from. 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:35.719 There, Okay, right off the bat. 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.680 So the house, it was built around eighteen hundred and 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.000 it had been through the War of eighteen twelve. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:42.960 There was a fire there. 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:46.920 It was rebuilt, and when my parents got it and 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.039 did the renovations is when we started to. 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:50.880 Feel the spirits. 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:54.520 But there was two spirits that were like I want 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:57.520 to say, like the infamous spirits of the house. Okay, 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.320 and yeah, like there was one that we called Patty 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:06.200 because we had heard a female voice saying that name, 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:11.599 like Patty in the house. Not just like not just me. 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.880 Multiple people, like guests to the house had seen or 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:16.760 heard of Patty. 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:19.960 And she's just how you. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.120 Would picture her, like she's she's in a victorian white 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:24.599 nightgown of course. 0:05:25.400 --> 0:05:25.960 Perfect. 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:28.320 Yeah. 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.920 She even appeared to my dad, who is like an 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:37.400 old school Italian Canadian like ghost start not real type, perfectly. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.760 Ah, the best, That's exactly who you want to see 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:41.080 a ghost, right. 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.960 Like Yeah, one night when he was like it was 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.880 the nineties, so we had those alarms that you like, uh, 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.479 there's a motion detector, so you have to like be 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.360 still while you're setting the alarm. So he was setting 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.920 the alarm and my sisters and I had gone like 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:59.120 we were watching my dog skip or something like in 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.760 my parents' bedroom, but we'd fallen asleep and he saw 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.880 my sister facing the corner in her nightgown, and he 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.080 was like, hey, like what are you doing? 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.719 You okay, like go to bed, and he set the alarm. 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:15.560 He's like, don't move, I gotta set the motion detector alarm. 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.360 He went on to bed to discover my sister was 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.080 in our bed sleeping and she'd. 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:24.880 Been there for like an hour. Yeah, so he saw Patty. 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:30.320 I'm thinking about, like how nightgowns they're like so perfect 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:35.000 for a ghost and they're so flowy and like, yeah, 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.640 people still wear nightgowns, but like there will be a 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.479 generation of ghosts that are just in like oversized T 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:44.840 shirts like that will just be at Yeah. 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.000 It's millennial ghosts. 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:52.400 Seriously, who's the other ghost? 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:56.440 So the other one we call him like the pipe 0:06:56.480 --> 0:07:00.600 smoking man. There was always like an odor of It 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:04.440 was very specific, like not cigarettes, like a pipe smoke 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:09.039 or like some sort of cigar or Yeah, so my 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:13.000 nanny she had said that she saw a man wearing 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:17.800 green overalls standing outside smoking a pipe like a few times. 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.800 I'm like, oh my goodness, that must be him. When 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:24.520 my parents did more renovations, they in the wall, they 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:28.559 found some old like horse racing papers, and a corn 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:29.320 cob pipe. 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.680 Now, why would you hide something like that in a wall? 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.760 Or why like how does that end up in a wall? 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:37.160 That's what I'm always wondering. 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:38.600 For me and my sisters. 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.080 It was always like a Nancy Drew mystery, like we 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.160 were solving Oh my goodness, it's the corn cob pipe man, 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.720 like yes, yeah, And we had a puppy at the time. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.240 He got the corn cob pipe and he chewed it up, 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:51.400 and then I thought that he was going to be 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:52.400 like cursed or haunted. 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.560 He's possessed by the man. See now that man in 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:00.160 the future would be the vaping man. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.280 Bab goes absolutely. 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:08.440 So was it always like pretty nice? Would you say, 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.880 or was it what was the vibe? 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.600 I would say it was generally nice, Like I don't 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.880 know if some things were like residual or I remember 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:21.600 that like my sister heard once of course, her room 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.760 was in the basement because couldn't get any creepier, and 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:26.720 she once heard, can you come and. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.960 Play with me? Okay, yeah, so like friendly but really 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:31.720 really creepy. 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.800 And yeah, that's one of those things that's very sweet 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:39.000 and friendly unless it's from a voice that's not connected 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.800 to a body and it's in a basement, then it's terrifying. 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:44.560 Yeah, unless it's Patty. 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:45.560 Yeah. 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.240 My favorite memory of who I think is the Corncob 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:50.440 pipemin Is. 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:52.240 We had one of those like. 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.720 Fisher Price recorders that were a cassette, you know, like 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:59.240 they had like five colors in the nineties. Yeah, and 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.360 we we would do this like sketch comedy that we 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.240 called Bob Blondie, and it was like, my sister is 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.720 Bob Blondie and she interviews a guest, like a celebrity guest. 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:10.719 I was the celebrity guest, and she would be. 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.479 Like, it's Bob Blondie. 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:15.360 Yeah. 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.240 So we were doing that with the cassette thing one 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.760 time and her friend was over and we all started 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:24.040 getting like the giggles and laughing at what we were doing, 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.600 and then we heard, like very distinctly. 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.280 A man's laugh, like joining in with us, and we 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:31.600 all just looked at each other. 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:35.959 Like, oh, and we got it on the recording. Actually, 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.319 we had a recording of it. 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:41.840 Oh no, I'm just imagining this ghost being like, oh, 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:42.600 that's funny. 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.280 Oh haha. And then you guys all realize that you 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:49.079 could hear him and he's like what the corn cup pipe? 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:49.360 Man? 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:54.040 Oh my god, Okay, this is good. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.480 My parents used to have because we're right on the water. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.960 They used to have like barbecue parties where they would 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.920 do like jet skiing. So they're all like out front 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.520 and we're sleeping inside like with our like another adult 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:10.800 whoever was there, uh nanny or whatever. And I remember 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.280 one time my mom's friend had told her like, oh, no, 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.160 like your girl, one of your girls is up. I 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:17.600 see her in the window. She's like, is she wearing 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:21.760 a white night gown. She's like yeah, like yeah, that's 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.520 not my daughter, that's the ghost. 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.760 So the whole family had experience. 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.840 Yeah, everybody and friends and people who did work on 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.280 the house. It was like no denying that the ghosts 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:33.720 were there. 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.000 So what's the status of the house now? Is it 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:40.920 still in the family. 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:45.560 It was sold to a group of like priests, so 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:50.040 I wonder if they've had any encounters or if they 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:55.760 did some sort of aging or something. I don't know, fascinating, like, 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.600 I've always had paranormal experiences. I've always lived on the Parkway, 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:01.920 So I don't know if it's like I'm the problem, 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.480 it's me, or it's a Parkway. 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.600 Why so did you have you had like other places 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.520 you lived in or what happened. 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.760 Yeah, Like I lived in another place that was like 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:19.080 close to this property and it was from eighteen seventy nine, 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:23.120 and there was definitely a ghost of a little boy there, 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:26.440 like we could hear him like playing and stuff. Even 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.719 when we had like people over, they're like, is there 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.199 a child like in the house sort of but. 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.440 Like what like were you hearing like vocal sounds. 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:41.400 Or yeah, like laughing and like yeah, oh children laughing 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:42.200 always fun. 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.280 Now, what's scary? 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.040 Yeah, even like we live now, we're really close to 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.320 the Parkway still. Our house was built in twenty twelve, 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:55.920 and my husband before like we met, never had like 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.720 an encounter with anything paranormal. And we've had things happen 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.079 here like what I would describe as like Charlie Brown's 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.280 teacher talking like it's like you can't understand what they're saying, 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:10.480 but it's like, yeah. 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.840 When when do you hear it? 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.080 It's actually always around like like I wake up first, 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.560 I wake up before him and my son, and that's 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:20.160 the time that I've heard of the most, like at 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:28.160 like four am and interest or footsteps. 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:31.640 I mean I've been thinking a lot lately about the 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:36.920 years and like how old stuff like of course that's haunted, 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:40.359 but news stuff no, And like it's always a conversation 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:44.000 that comes up when you're me people are We're always 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:45.200 talking about this stuff. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:51.040 And I just think that like ghosts can, they can. 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.360 It doesn't matter what year your your place was built 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:58.200 or what like, there's just there's a billion reasons why 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.160 there could be a ghost. And I think that peop 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:04.920 are just like old stuff is creepy, so so it's 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:09.680 easier for us to understand the old stuff being creepy ghosts. 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:15.480 And that Victorian look and everything. But there's ghosts. There's 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.120 ghosts everywhere. 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:18.920 For sure, and they like me it seems. 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:23.480 Now, are you flattered by that or do you wish 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.160 it wasn't like that? I like it. 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.520 I've always been like super interested since I was a 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.880 young child in everything ghosty. 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:36.280 Well, it's because you've met nice Canadian ones. Yeah, if 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.000 you start meeting some of these ones I've met, they're 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:40.360 not fun to be around. 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:44.680 Actually, there was we moved out of that White House 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.680 because my mom had an encounter with one that she 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.040 didn't think was friendly and it wasn't Corncob, pipe Man 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:51.640 or Patty. 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:52.600 Who was this? 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:53.839 Well, she was. 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.840 Pregnant with my little sister, like very pregnant near the end. 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:01.679 And she was sleeping and she had sleep paralysis, which 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.480 like she's the only person I've ever known to like 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.720 have that experience. But she was awake, but she couldn't move, 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.200 and she saw like a figure at the end of 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:14.160 the bed wearing like a like a black hooded cloak. 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.000 And she said it was small, but she noted like 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.600 it wasn't a child. She felt like almost like a 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.000 duende or something like that, she thought. 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:24.240 And then she was like, let's get out of here. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.200 So that was the actual reason. But she was like 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:30.000 we're moving. 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.360 Yeah, She's like, this is the last straw. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.840 I can tolerate corn Cob, Pipemin and Patty, but little 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.920 figure in a robe is very scary. 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.360 Now, couldn't have been Patty. She was putting on a 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.600 hoodie and she was about to go out to the store. 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.800 She wanted to see if your mom needed anything. 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.080 Maybe, yeah, she was, she was going to the Avondale. 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.600 She just wanted to say, you know, I know you're pregnant. 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.320 Do you want any snacks or anything. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:58.560 Yeah, and it's cold in Canada. She needed the teeth. 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:01.800 The hood, yeah, cape and all of that stuff. Yeah, 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:02.560 I get them. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.520 Wow, this has been great. I think I think you 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.440 gave us everything we need. 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:09.240 Everything. 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.920 We're always looking for a great you know, beginning, middle, 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:14.600 and end ghost story. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:17.920 Do the renovations. 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:21.880 The ghosts go crazy, they got names, they've got their 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.680 own identities, and then the whole story ends because it 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:29.120 starts getting crazy and now it's time for the priest 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:30.080 to deal with it. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:30.880 I love it. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.120 Yep, perfect. 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:35.480 Well, thank you so much for joining me. I really 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:36.480 appreciate it. 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:38.760 Thank you so much. It was wonderful. 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:47.240 Thank you, lax. Okay, this next one. These stories are different. 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:52.240 It's it's a lot of this kind of just unexplainable. 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:58.840 Not not your most traditional ghost type story. 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.720 But but the really really. 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:05.800 Good stuff, you know, like like you remember that classic 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:10.480 story from Gunner Deathrege. We always talk about that story 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.720 from way back in the day. I think it was 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.240 twenty nineteen or something. You can go back and find it. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:22.080 Gunner's story about encountering these weird people in a dream 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.200 and then it was connected to a friend that was 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:28.640 also in the dream, and it really happened or did it? 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:30.440 Just weird? 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.400 Weird and the best way and these stories you're about 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:34.840 to hear. 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:41.040 Are weird but also meaningful. Anyway, let's just do it. 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:42.840 Here's Alliot. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:49.960 Elliott from Cape Cod, Massachusetts. 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.120 Hi, Hi, ros, nice to see you. 0:16:54.560 --> 0:17:00.400 Oh my gosh, you too. These stories? Okay, which one 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:01.400 do you want to start with? 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.160 I kind of want to start with my sister because 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:10.479 there's some preamble with my experience with sleep paralysis, and 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.440 that just I feel kind of tie everything together. Okay, 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.160 So sleep paralysis has been happening to me pretty much 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:21.760 my entire life, and that's where, you know, I started 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:23.560 to see a lot of things and it's been like 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:28.320 this transitory experience like it. Over the years, I kept 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.800 on getting used to the sleep paralysis. But this wave 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:36.520 of vibration had occurred throughout the years as it started 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.320 getting more intense, and so I've I had been reading 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:43.040 things about sleep paralysis and like actual projection and leaving 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:46.840 your body, and these vibrations would always kind of get 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.240 me nervous. I was afraid to leave my body suddenly. 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:53.240 Well yeah, you know, I know, I feel. 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:55.880 Like we're really just diving right into this. But it's 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:59.240 like so fascinating to me. But it wasn't until my 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:02.560 sister died and I'm in her room on her floor 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:05.640 a couple of days after she died, and it's happening 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:07.480 to me, like I wake up. I can't move my 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:11.399 body and the vibrations start happening, and I'm like, no, 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.040 my sister's Curson's there, like she's not going to let 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:19.480 anything happen to my body. And with that confidence, I 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.040 let this wave of vibration wash over me and suddenly 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:27.199 like I'm above my body and my body's on the 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.080 floor and I'm just kind of looking around and I'm like, 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.840 I guess in the air and i start flowing down 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:36.679 to the ground and suddenly I feel these hands that 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:40.439 push me off of like a surface, and I know 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.879 that they're Curson's hands. Like I'm for some reason, I 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.080 just know I'm with my sister. I'm sharing consciousness with 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:51.720 my sister, and she's kind of teaching me the techniques 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:56.080 or to fly, you know. I'm seeing from her perspective, 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.560 my body's on the ground and she slowly starts just 0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:04.960 like take me through room by room. And at the time, 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:09.480 there was this girl staying with us who is pregnant, 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:13.400 and Kirsten brings me to her and we're hovering above her, 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:18.880 and I just feel, I mean, I'm understanding so much 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:22.439 in this space that I still haven't exactly found the 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:26.960 right words for. But Kirsten shows me in a way 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.800 like her energy just holds my friend Stephanie, who's nine 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:35.560 months pregnant, and that I try to leave the house 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:40.240 just to see what's going on out there, and I'm 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:42.399 brought back to my body like I'm not allowed to 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:47.399 leave the house. It feels like and something interesting about 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:50.520 this house, like there's always My family's very open to 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.240 the supernatural. My mom claimed to have grown up with 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.760 a ghost. I found out a couple of years ago. 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:01.000 This woman's giving me a ride home, this like spiritual 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.280 interaction at the store and she offers me ride home 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:06.359 and she's like, I knew you lived here. She was 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.600 like that room right there, I had my baby shower 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:12.680 when I was sixteen years old, and it's my mother's room. 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:15.960 And she's like, do you know anything about the previous 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:20.679 owner of your house? I knew nothing, And she was like, 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:23.880 the woman who owned this house before you would perform 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:28.600 exorcisms in this house for people like kind of unofficially 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:29.960 outside of the church. 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:32.320 Oh, she was like free lance. 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:35.480 Yeah, and so there's always with this energy to this house. 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:37.560 And all my friends have said the same thing, there's 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:38.960 something about this house. 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:40.400 WHOA. 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:44.600 Yeah, So do you think that your sleep paralysis that 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:47.000 you had had up until that point, do you think 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:49.440 it had anything to do with the house. 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:54.800 That's a really good question. I'm not sure. Or just 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:58.400 like my family in general, like my mom raising us 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:03.720 with this tales of her house growing up and these 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:07.360 like undeniable stories that she's never shared stories with such 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:11.920 like authenticity. Uh huh, you know, like she wants she's 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:17.240 been driving this like a paranormal reality since we were kids, 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:20.840 and when the paralysis started happening, and the things you 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.880 see in that in between space, I don't know, it's 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:24.359 a lot. 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:29.240 WHOA, So have you astro projected since then? 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.760 Not like that. There are times I'll have dreams and 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:37.720 I know that they're not dreams. Yeah, but I can't 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.879 confirm that I was like in this reality where my 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.400 body's below me, I'm visiting people in the other room 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:46.440 that has never happened. I don't know that I want 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.200 to or need to experience that again. 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.800 Yeah, no, I get that it's interesting that you couldn't 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:55.800 leave your house, because yeah, if it was me, i'd 0:21:55.840 --> 0:22:00.600 probably like flee out of the country or something. And 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.159 then before I know it, I'm like, damn it, I 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:04.600 need to get back into my body. 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:06.240 And now I don't know how to get back home. 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:11.440 Okay, which brings me to another story. I'm about leaving 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:15.399 the country the first time that, like sleep prousis ever, 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:19.240