1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Welcome In Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton show, We've 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: got some good news and some awful news. So I 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: will start with the good news. Early this morning, the 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: big beautiful Bill passed the House of Representatives two fifteen 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: to to fourteen. It is now on to the United 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: States Senate, where expectations are that it will pass at 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: some point in the next month and become the law 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: of the land. More flexibility in the United States Senate 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: because it's a little bit better of a majority fifty 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: three forty seven than what Mike Johnson was working with 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: on a regular basis in the House of Representatives. So 12 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: all of that very very positive news that happened early 13 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: this morning. Unfortunately, an awful thing happened late last night 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: in our nation's capital when too young, soon to be 15 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: engaged individuals, one from Kansas, the other from Jerusalem. It's 16 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: an awful story. The man in this relationship was planning 17 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: to propose, had already bought her a ring, and they 18 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: were shot and killed in cold antisemitic blood on the 19 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: streets of our nation's capital. And this is what globalized 20 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: the Intifada leads to. This is why everyone on a 21 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: college campus that has been moronically walking around saying globalize 22 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: the into fada. This is what they are calling for. 23 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: This is, unfortunately what happens in Israel. Quite often, a 24 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: terrorist comes up and kills someone because they happened to 25 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: be Jewish, and it felt sadly inevitable, inevitable to me 26 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: that this would occur. But here is I want to 27 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: play the audio because there's no uncertainty about exactly what happened. 28 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: Here. 29 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: Here is the individual who will soon be charged with 30 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: the crime, if he has not already been shouting free, 31 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: free Palestine after he murdered two Israeli diplomats on the 32 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: streets of Washington, d C. Here's cut too, so there's 33 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: no uncertainty about what his motives are. This is a 34 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: chant that has been screamed loudly on college campuses everywhere 35 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: in many different American streets by people who claim that 36 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: Israel is the bad guy in the wake of October seventh. 37 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: Let me make sure that you know these individuals' names. 38 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: This is the Israeli ambassador Yekel Leiter discussing these victims 39 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: and talking about his conversation with President Trump. 40 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: The young man purchased a ring this week with the 41 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 3: intention of proposing to his friend next week in Jerusalem. 42 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: They were a beautiful couple who came to enjoy an 43 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: evening in Washington's Cultural Center. On the way in this 44 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: BONDI was kind enough to hand me on the phone, 45 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: and the other line was the President of the United States, 46 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, who told me that his administration is going 47 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 3: to do everything it can possibly do to fight and 48 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: end anti Semitism and the hatred that's being directed the 49 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: demonization and delegitimization of the state of Israel. 50 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: Okay, Buck, you and I I don't think, sadly are surprised. 51 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 1: I was just about getting ready to go to bed 52 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: when the alert popped up on my phone late last night, 53 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: a little bit after midnight, And to me it felt 54 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: inevitable based on the way that the United States many 55 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: people in the United States on the left in particular, 56 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: but also there's people on the right who are anti Semitic. 57 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: This is where I would say the left and right 58 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: unfortunately sometimes have agreement, but it's far more pronounced, certainly 59 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: on the left wing right now, anti anti Semitism is 60 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: and this to me is a natural result of being 61 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: unable to distinguish between good and evil such that you 62 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: then engage in evil acts yourself because you believe you're 63 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: doing something that is right and just. And this is 64 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: the importance of being able to teach right and wrong. 65 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: And unfortunately, the younger you are in this country, the 66 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: more likely you are to buy into the idea that 67 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: the Israeli state is the bad guy here. 68 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: We recognize that. First of all, I just it's it's 69 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 4: heartbreaking to see this. And I sit here and just 70 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 4: say that murdering a beautiful couple like this in cold 71 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: blood outside a social event, I don't know what could 72 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 4: be more demonic senseless. And you know, it's interesting to 73 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 4: me that the media, whenever there is a anything that 74 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 4: they can say how somehow involves right wing ideology, they'll 75 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 4: speak of something called and we've discussed it on the 76 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: show stochastic terrorism. So numerically random terrorism is effectively what 77 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 4: it is like, if you do this enough, if you 78 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: spread this message enough, somebody will commit an active terrorism. 79 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 4: They'll talk about that if they can say that this 80 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 4: is somehow racist right wing ideology. Meanwhile, the left is 81 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 4: soaked in anti Israel, anti Semitic hatred top to bottom, 82 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 4: day in and day out, it's in the media, it's 83 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 4: on campuses, they're safe harbor given and platform given to 84 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 4: it in the Democrat Party. And we are just to 85 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: think that this now happens in some kind of vacuum. 86 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 5: You know. 87 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: This comes up, Clay when we have the discussions about 88 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 4: they can't say that Trump is Hitler, but they oppose 89 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: violence against Trump. That doesn't really make sense, does it. 90 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 4: If you believe that Trump was Hitler, which is an 91 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 4: insane person statement, but the Democrats have said at countless. 92 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 6: Times as we know. 93 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: But if you truly believed that, then you would want 94 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 4: to do anything to remove that threat from the United States. 95 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 4: And of course we saw that two people tried in 96 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 4: the election cycle, and one put a bullet through Trump's ear. 97 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 4: If you truly believe that there is a genocide going 98 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 4: on in Gaza, first of all, you can't read or 99 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 4: you can't process information, because this wouldn't be a long 100 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 4: and drawn out war. If it was a genocide, Israel 101 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 4: could just flatten all of Gaza in a matter of days, 102 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 4: no offens or butts, and that would be the end 103 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 4: of it. They could kill every man, women and child 104 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 4: in Gaza if they chose to do so. The reason 105 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 4: the war is taking so long as first and foremost, 106 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 4: Gaza I mean Hamas and the Gazins refuse to release 107 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 4: civilian hostages that were taken at the start of this 108 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 4: war in the horrible October seventh terrorist massacre. So to me, 109 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: there is such an inversion of morality that goes on here. 110 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 4: And I point this out as well, Clay, because you 111 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: know you said this yesterday. I've been advancing this point 112 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: on the show as much as I can because I 113 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: started out in Middle East studies in my life back 114 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 4: in college working the Arab Israeli working on the Arab 115 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 4: Israeli issue. My first ever real internship was for Dennis Ross, 116 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 4: the US ambassador under Clinton for the Arab Israeli peace accords. 117 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: So I've been. 118 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: Following this for a very long time and I'm aware 119 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 4: of a lot of the different dynamics. But in this 120 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 4: country it has turned into a shrill left wing rallying 121 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: cry absent facts and just full of hatred, and that 122 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: results in things like we've seen on the campuses, which 123 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 4: is which is completely disgusting, and then can even result 124 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 4: in things like this. I would want to ask these 125 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 4: individuals who are on the campuses. I want to ask 126 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 4: the people who are always talking about the genocide and Gaza, where. 127 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 6: Are they on the genocide? 128 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: And I know it sounds like a what about isn't 129 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 4: to some people they want to make that claim. Play 130 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: where's the talk about the genocide going on in South Sudan? 131 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 4: Or is it every Do they care about every human 132 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: life and depression? Do they care about hospitals being bombed? 133 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 6: How many of them even know. 134 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: That the hospitals just bombed in South Sudan? They have 135 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 4: no idea, They don't pay any attention because that is 136 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 4: a fight among a lot of different ethnic groups, but 137 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 4: Arab Muslims, Black Africans, there's no white people involved. And 138 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 4: when there's no white people involved, even though four hundred 139 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: thousand people have died, there have been mass rapes, there 140 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 4: has been ethnic cleansing, I mean, the most horrific stuff imaginable. 141 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 4: It's been going on for over a decade, I might add, 142 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 4: And yet none of the people that are walking around 143 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 4: with cafaas on talking about how every life matters and 144 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 4: stop genocide, they don't know a damn thing about it. 145 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 4: You know why, because they're costplaying as revolutionaries and they're 146 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 4: just feeding in to this anti white narrative that they 147 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: think somehow explains the Israel Hamas war. And that is 148 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 4: how stupid they are, and that is how malevolent their 149 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 4: ideology is, and it results in things like we saw 150 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 4: last night. 151 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: I think all that's very well said. 152 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: I know there are maybe some people out there with kids' 153 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: grandkids that don't get this. Let me give you two 154 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: things that I think are very simple that you can 155 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: share with them and ask them to think about. One 156 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: is and I was over in December, and I don't 157 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: remember who told me this, but I've heard it repeated since, 158 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: but the first time I heard it was in Israel, 159 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: and it is this. If Israel put down its weapons, 160 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: it wouldn't exist tomorrow. If every other country in the 161 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: Middle East that hates Israel put down its weapons, there 162 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: would be peace in the Middle East. 163 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: Israel is not the aggressor. 164 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: Israel is trying to protect itself and of its foes 165 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: want Israel, as you saw in October seventh waped. The 166 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: Jewish people in Israel wiped off the face of the earth. 167 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: That's what from the river to the sea means. So 168 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: that's an easy one that I think is that everybody 169 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: can grasp. And two is another analogy we have made, 170 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: and I think it's a good one because people sometimes say, Okay, well, 171 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: why do you care? How do you decide who's good 172 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: who's bad. Well, I was there in all the kibbutz's 173 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: where all the innocent people were murdered when Hamas decided 174 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: to come into Israel and rape and pillage and murder 175 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: across a wide expanse. But I want you to think 176 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: about this when Biden had our southern border wide open, 177 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: or even now, if somehow it were to occur, if 178 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: a Mexican terror organization came across our southern border and 179 00:10:55,679 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: killed twelve hundred Americans and kidnapped hundreds of them and 180 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: went back into Mexico and claimed that they shouldn't be 181 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: attacked because women and children might be harmed. What would 182 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: we do to the part of Mexico that the terrorists 183 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: were in? Fuck you right, say, Ia, what do you 184 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: think we would do if they killed twelve hundred Americans 185 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: went back across their border and had hundreds of hostages. 186 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 4: Well, I joined the CIA because of nine to eleven, 187 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: So we could even use a more direct historical analogy here. 188 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 4: I think that October seventh was Israel's. 189 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: Nine to eleven. 190 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think very clearly, and as a matter 191 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: of percentages, I think it might even be higher than 192 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 4: nine to eleven. Oh, infinitely infinitely higher because the Israeli 193 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 4: population is so much smaller. So when you factor this out, 194 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 4: uh yeah, after nine to eleven, you know, I will add, 195 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 4: by the way, there's actually a pretty good hunt for 196 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: bin Laden on Netflix if anyone's curious to look for 197 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 4: something that's it's pretty well done. My old friend Gary Burnson, 198 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: who led the Jawbreaker team is on it. Mike Morell, 199 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 4: whom I worked for in the CIA, who's a Lib 200 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 4: and a Hillary. But you know, there's some people that 201 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 4: were there doing the doing the work and they're pretty good. 202 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 4: But Clay people, I think, I think sometimes leave this 203 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 4: part out of our response. After nine eleven, we said 204 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: to the Taliban, Okay, you guys have him, you hand 205 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: him over or else. 206 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 6: They chose or else. Yeah, we had no choice. 207 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 4: There is no choice because the choice to not do 208 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 4: anything would be the choice to let evil win. And 209 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: Hama and Israel has the same choice after October seventh, 210 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 4: and this is the you know, this is where I 211 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 4: get very frustrated because there are people out there who 212 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 4: think themselves clever because somehow the only thing they ever 213 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 4: have a problem with is a response to terrorism. Yeah, 214 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 4: it's always the response isn't good enough. It's a little 215 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 4: bit like arguing with somebody who's wrong and just says 216 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 4: I don't like your tone. I don't like your tone. Well, 217 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 4: how are we going to is it? Who's right is 218 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 4: what matters? Okay, you can complain about my tone all day. 219 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 4: And Hamas brought this war upon themselves. They could have 220 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 4: ended this war after October seventh, for months and months 221 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 4: and months, given the hostages back, and had an unconditional surrender. 222 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 4: They chose not to do it. They don't just hold 223 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 4: Israeli's hostage, they hold themselves hostage. That's the problem. They've 224 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 4: decided we would rather light ourselves on fire as a 225 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 4: people in Gaza than join civilization and stop this madness. 226 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal last weekend had a peace that I 227 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: thought was important. 228 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 2: I shared it. 229 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: People say, why did Hamas do it? Well, certainly they're 230 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: horrible anti Semites, right, they want Israel wiped off and 231 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: the Jewish people wiped off the planet. But in particular 232 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: the timing of October seventh seems to have been directly 233 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: tied to fear that Saudi Arabia was going to normalize 234 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: relations with Israel and that would lead to more peace 235 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: in the Middle East, and they didn't want that to 236 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: happen because they thought that would undercut their political posture. 237 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: So the reason they say attacked on October seventh was 238 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: they were trying to stop peace from spreading even more 239 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: substantially in the Middle East. They're evil, and I think 240 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: you saw the motivation and any of you out there 241 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: with kids or grandkids walking around saying globalize the Intifada, 242 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: I think that they are so poorly educated that they 243 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: do not even understand how much of morons they truly are. Look, 244 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: we're going to talk more about this. We're going to 245 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: go to Israel and talk with Yel Extein, she works 246 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: at the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, about what 247 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: the reaction is in Israel, which I'm sure is widely 248 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: discussed and was crushing to so many people over there 249 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: to hear that two young, innocent people who were soon 250 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: to be engaged were murdered in cold blood for being Jewish. 251 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: This is why you know, our friend Carol Mark w 252 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: it'z tweeted that Jews need to go buy as many 253 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: guns as they can. And she in particular, she's on 254 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: a plane, or she'd be with us today. Maybe we 255 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: can get her on tomorrow. But she, in particular, Buck 256 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: you know this, went and taught herself how to fire 257 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: a gun after October seventh, And there are a lot 258 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: of women out there. In particular, I took. 259 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: Her out and taught her how to fire guns. We 260 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 4: took her out for a range days so that she 261 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 4: knew how to defend herself. 262 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: So many people are like this. 263 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I talked about when I was in Israel, 264 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: I met a woman who's working with the IFCJ. Young 265 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: mom walks around with a handgun on her hip everywhere 266 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: she goes. 267 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 6: Now. 268 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: She was in the hospital having just delivered a baby 269 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: on October seventh, and her mom was killed on October seventh. 270 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: Her brothers had to go rescue her, her husband who 271 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: was holding the butcher knife right by the door to 272 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: try to stab people if they came in to kill 273 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: their infant children. I mean, this is the reality of 274 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: what people in Israel deal with every day, and unfortunately, 275 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: globalize the Ensafada has spread here. If you want to educate, 276 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: you want people to learn more, trust me, just go 277 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: to IFCJ dot org. You can learn. Click there so 278 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: you can talk to the kids and grandkids in your family. 279 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: Please just trust me. IFCJ dot org go learn what 280 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: is going on, what Israel is having to deal with 281 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: and trying to defend itself in its very existence. IFCJ 282 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: dot org is that website, click arn tab IFDJ dot org. 283 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. We head 284 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: up to Capitol Hill now to be joined by Senator 285 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: Ran Paul of Kentucky. 286 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: Senator. 287 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: We saw the big beautiful bill pass by one vote 288 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: in the House trom fifteen to two fourteen. I believe 289 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: it is now onto the United States Senate. What happens 290 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: there now? What should we know about, what the process 291 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: is in the Senate? What you want to see? 292 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 7: You know, there's some good and some bad to the bill. 293 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 7: The good is the tax cuts. You know, I supported 294 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 7: these in twenty seventeen. Some of them will be making 295 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 7: permanent and some of them will be adding too. I'm 296 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 7: very supportive of that. I'm supportive of spending cuts. I 297 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 7: think the spending cuts are wimpy, anemic, and unfortunately won't 298 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 7: do much to change the course of the country towards 299 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 7: a more fiscal physically responsible path. The thing I really 300 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 7: object to, though, and it prevents me from supporting it 301 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 7: at this point, is that it adds either four or 302 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 7: five trillion, depending on which version you look at to 303 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 7: the debt ceiling. This will be an historic increase in 304 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 7: the debt ceiling. We've never added this much at one time, 305 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 7: and frankly, conservatives have never voted to these things. Typically 306 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 7: they've been passed by Democrats and sort of the big 307 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 7: government Republicans are forced to get together. I always called 308 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 7: it a day of shame. They had to go down 309 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 7: on the well and admit that there's a big spending 310 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 7: plan to cause the debt to rise alarmingly. But now 311 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 7: it's conservatives voting for it. And my fear is is 312 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 7: that this will be the end of fiscal conservatism here 313 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 7: and in the country, because there's very few I mean, 314 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 7: there were one or two in the House that oppose 315 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 7: this because the debt rose too much. Right now, it's 316 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 7: just me in the Senate, and it's not because I 317 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 7: opposed Donald Trump or not because I opposed that the 318 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 7: tax cuts or any of the spending cuts, but I 319 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 7: just don't think we should be the party that raises 320 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 7: the debt ceiling five trillion dollars. You know, come come September, 321 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 7: the deficit this is going to be about two point 322 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 7: two trillion. That's all Republican now, because Republicans have voted 323 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 7: for these spending levels, they're anticipating two point eight to 324 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 7: three trillion next year. That's just not conservative. And somebody's 325 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 7: got to be left in the country who will speak 326 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 7: truth to power that we'll say basically we're supposed to 327 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 7: be the Conservative party. 328 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 4: Senator Paul, Are we at a point where we just 329 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 4: need to be honest as a country that if there 330 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 4: is no political will to change alter whatever somebody wants 331 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 4: to say about it, social Security, Medicare, Medicaid maybe really 332 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 4: just medicare in that equation, and defense spending is not 333 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 4: going to get cut, if anything that's going to go up, 334 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 4: We're not going to tackle the debt, right, I mean, 335 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: is that mathematically what we are stuck with? Is there 336 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 4: some other way? I just worry that this is you know, 337 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 4: I remember when you came in on the Tea Party 338 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 4: wave We've been talking about this issue for a long time. 339 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 4: There's a bit of fatigue over guys. The debt bomb 340 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: is ticking. The debt bomb is ticking, and everyone goes, 341 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, let's do something about it. You go, okay, 342 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 4: maybe we need a reform in titlement. They go, you're 343 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 4: out of office. 344 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 8: Yeah. 345 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 7: Well, you know, I've been pretty honest with it, you know, 346 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 7: since I was elected. When I was running for the office, 347 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 7: the first time, I said, so securities running out of money, 348 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 7: says Medicare, and we're living longer. We're going to have 349 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 7: to gradually raise the age of eligibility. And I would 350 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 7: laughingly say, you know, people would say, do you hate 351 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 7: old people? And I say, no, I aspire a vehicle person. 352 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 7: You know, I'm on my way. I you know, I 353 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 7: want to collect my Social Security, my Medicare, and so 354 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 7: in order to save these systems, they have to be reformed. 355 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 7: But when we take them off the table and we 356 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 7: present deficits as big as the Biden deficits are bigger, 357 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 7: we're just as guilty and we no longer can point 358 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 7: to them as these are the Biden deficits or the 359 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 7: Biden inflation that came from the deficits. We'll be looking 360 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 7: in the mirror because we'll have the responsibility now. And 361 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 7: I just I think there still needs to be a 362 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 7: conservative resistance against big spending and against debt. And it 363 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 7: is important. Interest rates about a trillion dollars and our 364 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 7: interest payments about a trillion dollars a year. But interest 365 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 7: rates are still edging up, you know, the interest rate 366 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 7: to thirty years at five percent, So we are gradually 367 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 7: turning over into a higher interest rate and it's going 368 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 7: to crowd out all spending. At some point in time. 369 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 7: The deficit for this year will equal to budget. Congress 370 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 7: votes on a discretionary budget of about one point eight 371 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 7: to two trillion dollars. That's equal to the deficit, which 372 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 7: means one hundred percent of the budget we vote on 373 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 7: will be borrowed this year. So this should not be 374 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 7: about allegiance to Donald Trump. I like the president. I 375 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 7: voted for him, I support him, and I'm with him 376 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 7: on so many things, his cabinet, Mahab movement, all that stuff. 377 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 7: But it doesn't mean we should quit being physically conservative 378 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 7: and asking the difficult questions about are we full big debt? 379 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 7: Are we not for it we are we different than 380 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 7: the Democrats when it comes to deficit spending, and right 381 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 7: now we're looking kind of like the Democrats as far 382 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 7: as a result. 383 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: We're talking to Center A Ram Paul. I want to 384 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: build on what Buck said, because I do. It's interesting 385 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: the Tea Party movement started. You can correct me if 386 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, because I may be a little bit off, 387 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: but I think I'm right. When under Obama the national 388 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: debt approached ten trillion. Since that time, we have nearly 389 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: quadrupled the national debt because it's rapidly approaching forty trillion, 390 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: and as you just laid out, you know we're headed 391 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: for fifty trillion, sixty trillion, And it just feels like 392 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: Buck and I talk about this sometimes on the program 393 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: because we see the responses when we bring it up. 394 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: You say, hey, this is unsustainable. People say, well, you 395 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: should just cut cost. The problem is if you look 396 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: at the basic math of what medicare cost of, what 397 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: Social security costs, what the debt costs, and I don't 398 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: think most people want to replace national defense, even though 399 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: now we're spending more money servicing the debt on interest 400 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: than we are in national defense. That eliminates about eighty 401 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: six percent ish of the overall budget. Even if you 402 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: cut every other part of the budget, you're still going to, 403 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: as you just laid out, end up in a deficits situation. 404 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: To me, the only possible solution is you have to 405 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: address entitlement spending in a significant way. 406 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 2: And you know this better than anybody. 407 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: It seems like ninety five percent of politicians just say, hey, 408 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: I got to get elected in two years, Hey I 409 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: got to get elected in four years, six years, whatever 410 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: it is, we'll just kick the can down the road 411 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: and pretend that the looming debt crisis doesn't actually exist. 412 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 7: Well, you know, one of the reasons we've put forward 413 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 7: the Penny Plan budget to balance the budget is to 414 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 7: illustrate that it can be done, and it can be 415 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 7: done by cutting only a few percentage points. But you 416 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 7: have to cut a few percentage points of everything. So 417 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 7: when I started proposing this ten years ago, spending wasn't 418 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,199 Speaker 7: nearly as bad, but it was it was headed in 419 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 7: the wrong direction. Ten years ago, you could free spending, 420 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 7: just don't increase spending. Spend the same amount each year 421 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 7: for five years, and the budget wo balance. Then a 422 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 7: couple of years later we called it the penny plan. 423 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 7: You had to cut one percent across the board of 424 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 7: everything on budget to balance the budget, to balance the 425 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 7: annual budget. They became the two penny plan. Then COVID 426 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 7: hit and it became the sixpenny plan. And so that's 427 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 7: about where we are right now. You'd have to cut 428 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 7: a six percent across the board. But I tell people, 429 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 7: look at it this way. If you still had ninety 430 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 7: four percent. Let's say your big deal is your brother 431 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 7: and grandmother had Alzheimer's disease. You want the government to 432 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 7: do research. So they come into me. They all wear 433 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 7: purple ribbons, and I have great deal of sympathy. I 434 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 7: have family members who have had and I say to them, well, 435 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 7: you know, we're short of money, and you got one 436 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 7: hundred million last year, could you live with ninety four 437 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 7: million this year? And every one of them they're tearful 438 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 7: thinking about their loved ones. They're talking about something very 439 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 7: personal to them. And they look at me and they say, well, sure, 440 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 7: if the country is short of money, we could do 441 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 7: with ninety four million. And see that would be the 442 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 7: same truth of everybody. Everybody would just have to deal 443 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 7: with ninety four dollars out of one hundred, and it 444 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 7: would be less about eliminating anything to anyone but cutting 445 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 7: everybody you're six percent and just saying we've got to 446 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 7: do it. You do it for a couple of years, 447 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 7: we balance, the country begins to grow, receipts grow again, 448 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 7: and actually government's meaning could gradually go up after a while. 449 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 7: But I don't know. I'm not afraid to do it, 450 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 7: and I don't know that I'm any less popular than 451 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 7: I was when I ran. You know, I got sixty 452 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 7: two percent of the vote last time in a state 453 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 7: that has the significant population that's dependent on government, and 454 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 7: I have great sympathy for them, and I want them 455 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 7: all to do better. And I say, I don't want 456 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 7: to cut you off Medicaid. I want to get you 457 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 7: private health insurance with the private job and better payment. 458 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 7: And so I don't know. I think people do understand it. 459 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 7: If you're sincere. I think a lot of the people 460 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 7: that are Weasily and Waffley and never really commit one 461 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 7: way or the other and then go home and tell 462 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 7: everybody there for a balanced budget. This is the problem 463 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 7: with Republicans. It's going to they're going to lose face, 464 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 7: and they're going to lose any semblance of sincerity because 465 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 7: they're going to go home to the Chamber of Commerce 466 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 7: and to the roadary and talk about balanced budgets next 467 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 7: year or this summer. And yet the deficit's going to 468 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 7: be two point two trillion, and all of it is 469 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 7: responsible to Republicans. Now, this is no longer the Biden deficit. 470 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 7: This will be the Gop deficit. And in the next 471 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 7: two years are going to borrow five trillion dollars. Somebody's 472 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 7: got to stand up and shout no. 473 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 4: Well, Senator Paul, at least down the line, if this 474 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 4: doesn't stop, you'll be able to look at all of 475 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 4: us when we're facing a true financial crisis and say, 476 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 4: I did tell you guys this is coming. So I 477 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 4: know that that will be cold comfort, but you're very 478 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 4: much on the record with this one. 479 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: I worry that American. 480 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 4: Politics have unfortunately gotten on this unstoppable amusement park ride 481 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 4: and we're going to run out of track. But anyway, 482 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 4: I also want to ask you something, well, actually, no, 483 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 4: this is very serious too. I was gonna say, go 484 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 4: to a lighter direction, but no, not really. What you're 485 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 4: finding about, or what we're all finding out about. Really 486 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 4: the new version of how the Democrats viewed Biden during 487 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 4: the election, this book that's come out, all of this stuff. 488 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 4: Where do you come I mean, as a doctor as 489 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 4: well as somebody who's in politics at a high level. 490 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 6: I mean, nobody's really supposed to believe that your. 491 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 4: Democrat colleagues in the Senate didn't know Biden wasn't all 492 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 4: there right or what? 493 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 7: No, this is really shocking. You're going to discover. Can 494 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 7: you believe it that Biden was actually mentally impaired and 495 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 7: no one knew about it until Pepper wrote his book. 496 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 7: This is just shocking. I mean, what great reporting Tapper 497 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 7: has revealed that President Biden was missing a step or two. No, 498 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 7: I mean everybody saw it from miles away. The shuffling gate, 499 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 7: the absence stare, the you know, looking one way, looking 500 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 7: for people, never really certain of where he was, and 501 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 7: then the rambling incoherent sentences, so you know, and if 502 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 7: it were just someone you knew, you'd feel sorry for them. 503 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 7: But if it were my loved one, I would be 504 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 7: mad at the family for putting something like that out. 505 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 7: I think actually one of the most insulting things was 506 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 7: Jimmy Carter's family as Jimmy Carter was dying and really 507 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 7: not conscious. They rolled him out for display of the 508 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 7: cameras after having just voted, and you know, it's a 509 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 7: sad time. Look, Jimmy Carter wasn't a great president. It 510 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 7: was a great humanitarian, I think, and not a bad 511 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 7: person after the presidency. He should have been remembered for that, 512 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 7: and instead, I can't shake the image of you know, 513 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 7: his mouth open, unconscious and his idiot family parading him 514 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 7: out there in front of cameras to stay just voted. 515 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 7: You know, that's kind of what they did to Biden 516 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 7: for four years. And it would have been much better, 517 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 7: and you know, he could have been remembered, you know, 518 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 7: I guess at least just for being a crook, you know, 519 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 7: as a vice president, instead of you know, being a 520 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 7: bumbling president. 521 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: Do you believe that they found out on Friday that 522 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: he had stage four cancer? 523 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 7: You know maybe? And I don't really fault people as 524 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 7: much for this. If you've looked into cross state cancer, 525 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 7: and a lot of men have looked into the pros 526 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 7: and cons of the blood testing, it really has evolved 527 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 7: and changed a lot. So they used to have everybody 528 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 7: at forty start taking a PSA. But then they started 529 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 7: finding elevated PSAs and people having a prostage remood, which 530 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 7: is not a benign receiver procedure, and it's sort of 531 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 7: unclear whether they were early cancers that might have stayed 532 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 7: hidden for dozens of years, and so the numbers of 533 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 7: surgeries of skyrocketed, and then they decided after seventy you're 534 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 7: more likely to die from something else. They they don't 535 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 7: take the PSA at all, and so it's weird because 536 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 7: we all have this mortality and were like, I'm seventy one, 537 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 7: feel pretty healthy. I think I should get a PSA. 538 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 7: Or I'm eighty two and feel healthy. Maybe I'll get 539 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 7: a PSA, or maybe I'll just roll the dice. I'm 540 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 7: getting older, I'm going to die from something. So these 541 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 7: are they're difficult and personal decisions. So I don't foulot 542 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 7: him for any of that. And I think there is 543 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 7: a chance he did know they said he got a 544 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 7: PSA that was probably normal back when he was seventy one, 545 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 7: and it's a slow going cancer and there's you know, 546 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 7: he's eighty two or eighty three, and you know the 547 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 7: downside to the surgeries are a lot of different side 548 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 7: effects from the surgery is not a perfect surgery by 549 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 7: any means, and so I don't know. I guess I 550 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 7: don't fault him because I think the decision making process 551 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 7: a very personal one that a lot of men are 552 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 7: having to go through, and really it's not an easy 553 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 7: one because it's not I can. 554 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: I ask you really quickly about doctor pauls or Senator Paul. 555 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 4: Doctor Paul my own father, by the way, I had 556 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 4: had to go through this, so a lot of us listening, 557 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: it's very it's very personal and exactly what you're talking about. 558 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 4: But why is this happening to so many? This is 559 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 4: we're not a point where men are being told something 560 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 4: like what seventy percent or eighty percent of them will 561 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 4: have some form of prostate cancer. 562 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: This can't be normal. 563 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 6: Do you have any any working theory as to what's 564 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 6: going on? 565 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 7: It? Actually, it actually is kind of normal. They've done 566 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 7: a natural study of the natural course of the disease. 567 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 7: And when they do autopsies of men in their seventies 568 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 7: who die for other reasons, you just die, and they 569 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 7: take one hundred people who died and they look at 570 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 7: the prostates, it is like seventy percent of them have 571 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 7: cancer in the prostate, but never had any symptoms that 572 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 7: didn't spread awhere in their body, and they died from 573 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 7: something else. That's why it's a difficult decision. If it 574 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 7: were just a breast biopsy or a lumpectomy that they 575 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 7: did to the prostate, have to worry about all the 576 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 7: other possible problems, it wouldn't be such a big deal. 577 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 7: But since the surgery is a pretty dramatic thing, you 578 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 7: obviously don't want to do the surgery on people who 579 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 7: don't need to have it yet. 580 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 4: So hundred years ago, we think as many men were 581 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 4: having this issue as today. I'm asking honestly, I have 582 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 4: no idea. 583 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, probably, but one hundred years ago, you know, the 584 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 7: average life expectancy was forty five, and so as we 585 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 7: live longer, there's going to be a lot more people 586 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 7: with it. But it's even worse than that. They apparently 587 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 7: have done autopsy studies of men who die in their twenties, 588 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 7: and I've seen at least one report saying eight percent 589 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 7: of men in their twenties already have a form of 590 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 7: prostate cancer. So that makes you wonder if it's more 591 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 7: hyperplasia or something that's not quite cancer that maybe our 592 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 7: grading system needs to be better refined to figure out 593 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 7: when we need to do surgery and when we don't. 594 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 7: So it is a complicated subject. I guess it. Don't 595 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 7: follow him for it because look, he's eighty two and 596 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 7: he's had twelve years without having to deal with any 597 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 7: of the symptoms of having the surgery. And I don't know. 598 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 7: I don't know what would have been better, and nobody really, 599 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 7: I don't know. There's a lot of if ns or 600 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 7: butts about how to make the decision. The guy that 601 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 7: invented the PSA was a test with a chairman of 602 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 7: the department at Stanford for many years, and he finally 603 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 7: came to conclusion at the end that PSA is also 604 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 7: related to a benign enlargement of the prostate as well 605 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 7: as cancer. And it's difficult to distinguish because men's prostate 606 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 7: gets bigger over time, and that's why most older men 607 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 7: have trouble with urinary symptoms. But it's not all cancer. 608 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 7: A lot of it's benign. And because the surgeries of all, 609 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 7: you got to decide do I want to do you know, 610 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 7: do I want to watch it? Do I want to 611 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 7: do surgery? And it's a difficult decision for a lot 612 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 7: of men. 613 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,479 Speaker 4: Senator Paul, Doctor Paul wearing both ats today for us, 614 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for coming on the show, sir, 615 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 4: Thank you. 616 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 6: This is nine to eleven. 617 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 4: The Tunnel the Towers Foundation has been supporting America's greatest 618 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 4: heroes and their families. Here is like Mark Hulbert. Mark 619 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 4: was born into a military family. 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And 637 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 4: a young Jewish couple soon to be engaged gunned down 638 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 4: in cold blood, and the assassin, the alleged murderer, shouting free, 639 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 4: free Palestine. So I think we all know exactly what 640 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 4: was going on here. Notice the Trump administration not playing 641 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 4: the We may never know the real motive games that 642 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 4: the FBI or anything, we understand why this atrocity was committed. 643 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 4: We want to talk to our friend Yile Exstein. Now 644 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 4: she's a president and CEO of the International Fellowship of 645 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 4: Christians and Jews. Yaiel are the condolences from this audience 646 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 4: go out to the families of those killed in this 647 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 4: horrible uh, this horrible active of violence, and also our 648 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 4: solidarity goes out to our brothers and sisters in Israel. 649 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 4: My understanding is the Trump administration has immediately reached out 650 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 4: and there's already discussions between the two nations to express 651 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 4: those condolences. 652 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 5: It is so comforting for all of us here in 653 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 5: Israel to hear the condolences, but even more than that, 654 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 5: maybe to feel the love and the prayers and the 655 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 5: support and the unity. You know, I think what this 656 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 5: killing represents is everything that the evil is trying to destroy. 657 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 5: It represents America and Israel, ere Jews and Christians. It 658 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 5: represents are shared values of striving for life and brotherhood. 659 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 5: They were actually going to get engaged next week in Jerusalem, 660 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 5: and they were both part of groups that worked on 661 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 5: helping Israelis and Arabs to work together in the high 662 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 5: tech sector and find common values. And so to hear 663 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 5: those words of condolences right away, to feel the prayers, 664 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 5: to see the support that millions of Americans are showing 665 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 5: against this attack is something that what I believe, it's 666 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 5: the silenced majority that's speaking loud. 667 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 668 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 1: When I was over with you and the IFCJ and Israel, 669 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: I'm a nerd when it comes to newspapers. I want 670 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: to read all the newspapers that I can, and so 671 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: the English language newspapers that I was reading, I was 672 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: kind of amazed how much coverage there was of the 673 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: college campus protests in Israel and how much that impacted 674 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: people in Israel. To see that, to see the videos 675 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: and obviously to be reading about it. I don't know 676 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: that this audience is as aware of that coverage and 677 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: how it impacts people in Israel. When people at the 678 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: University of Michigan or UCLA or Columbia or whatever school 679 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: my alma mater, George Washington University are protesting, but those 680 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: kids are globalizing the intafada. That is one of the chants. 681 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 1: Free free pales nine is another one of the chants. 682 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: Isn't this in your mind and in the mind of 683 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: many people in Israel and natural outgrowth over what those 684 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: kids were saying on those campuses. 685 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 5: Oh well, one hundred percent spot on. This is what 686 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 5: it means to globalize antisada. I've lived in Israel through 687 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 5: antipadas where there are suicide bombers that are blowing up 688 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 5: buses and coffee shops every single day, when there are 689 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 5: even teenagers who are sent to stab random civilians and 690 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 5: Israel that's what dnisada is. And when you say globalized antisada, 691 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 5: that this is exactly what it looks like on the 692 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 5: streets of Washington, d C. Gunning down to innocent people 693 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 5: simply because they represented Israel. And it's so important for 694 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 5: you to bring up these college protests because what they 695 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 5: represent us here in Israel. I'm the daughter in law 696 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 5: and granddaughter of two Holocaust survivors. All of my father 697 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 5: in law and my grandfather's family were killed in the Holocaust, 698 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 5: and we were raised on these stories of how it 699 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 5: started by looking at Jews as different. By suddenly Jews 700 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 5: aren't allowed to go and study on certain college campuses. 701 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 5: Suddenly they're not allowed to enter certain areas. And so 702 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 5: what those college protests represent when we see Jews not 703 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 5: able to get into certain public areas of college campuses, 704 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,919 Speaker 5: or to get into buildings on college campuses that they're 705 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 5: paying tuition and they should be able to go there, 706 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 5: but they can't because they're Jewish. This is getting so 707 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 5: much coverage in Israel because it's so familiar. This isn't 708 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 5: something that's new. Anti Semitism is the oldest hatred. It's 709 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 5: as old as the Jewish people. We saw it with 710 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,800 Speaker 5: Amalik in the scriptures, we saw it with wicked Hayman, 711 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 5: we thought with the Nazis, and today we're seeing it 712 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 5: not only with Islamic extremists, but people who are educated. 713 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 5: We see who are raised in Chicago, this shooter today, 714 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 5: somebody who had an education, who you wouldn't profile as 715 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 5: an Islamic extremist from Iraq or Afghanistan or someone else. 716 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,720 Speaker 5: This is an American who did this. And you see 717 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 5: that this hatred is seeping into American culture, which for 718 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 5: me is the most terrifying. You know, I was just 719 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 5: on the border with Syria where the International Fellowship of 720 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 5: Christians and Jews provided food and medical aid to Christians 721 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 5: being persecuted in Syria. And what I see is that 722 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 5: this isn't isolated to the Jewish people, is not isolated 723 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 5: to Israel. It's a hatred against God himself. And that's 724 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 5: why they're targeting Jews and Christians because actually, from what 725 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 5: I understand, yer N, one of the victims of the 726 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 5: shooting today, he actually identified as a Messianic Jew. He 727 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 5: was half Christian. This is all of our wars, this 728 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 5: is all of our darkness, this is all of our threats, 729 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 5: and I think the only answer is to come together 730 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 5: in love, to love one another, to help one another, 731 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 5: to stand in solidarity against this darkness. It's the only 732 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 5: way to stab us Kile. 733 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 4: We know, and we've talked about it here many times 734 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 4: on the show that, unfortunately, the Democrat Party is far 735 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 4: too tolerant of the intolerance and the anti Semitism that 736 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 4: exists as a portion. I have Jewish friends who vote Democrat. 737 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 4: I understand this is not the entire Democrat Party base, 738 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 4: but there is a portion of the Democrat Party that 739 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 4: is truly anti Semitic, and the party, I would argue overall, 740 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 4: is far too tolerant of that. Do you see that 741 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 4: changing at all as things as incidents like this happen. 742 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,479 Speaker 4: Do you see Democrat leadership starting to speak with more 743 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,879 Speaker 4: moral clarity or do you think think that they are 744 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 4: unfortunately held hostage by the anti Semitic, anti Semitic members 745 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 4: in their midst. 746 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 5: It was so incredible and comforting to see the President 747 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 5: of America, President Trump, immediately call out this attack as 748 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 5: anti semitism and call it wrong. This is something that 749 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 5: should be the basis for anyone. I saw some people 750 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,359 Speaker 5: from the Senate, from the American government representing America who 751 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 5: avoided questions on if this was wrong, if this was bad, 752 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 5: if this is anti Semitic. To have the President of 753 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 5: America stand up and quickly denounce what happened and say 754 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 5: that he stands with the Jewish community and recognizes that 755 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 5: this is anti Semitism in its most evil form. It's 756 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 5: something that's sobering, and unfortunately we're not seeing enough of 757 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 5: what's terrifying to me is that we're seeing this hatred 758 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 5: against Jews, Papa everywhere. You see it on the right, 759 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 5: you see it on the left. But what's so encouraging 760 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 5: to me is that in facing this hatred that no 761 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 5: longer disguises itself, no longer pretends to be tolerant, calls 762 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,879 Speaker 5: out hating Jews, hating Christians. I think that we've seen 763 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 5: the silenced majority speak up louder than ever. I see 764 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 5: this in my work with the International Fellowship of Christians 765 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 5: and Jews. We have more people writing to us, donating, 766 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 5: taking an active stand in face of this hatred, both 767 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 5: on the right and the left, to say that doesn't 768 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 5: represent me. I stand for these Judeo Christian values that 769 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 5: we need to stand unified with. I stand with God, 770 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,240 Speaker 5: I stand with God's word, I stand with God's people. 771 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 5: And if, oh if Jews and Christians are separated, if 772 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,399 Speaker 5: we're able to let hatred and division when we are 773 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,240 Speaker 5: both facing the same we're both facing the same darkness 774 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 5: and so I think we have to stand up against 775 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 5: hatred on the right on the left, and we have 776 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 5: to do exactly what President Trump did today, which is 777 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 5: call evil evil, called darkness darkness, and learn from the 778 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 5: warning of Isaiah from thousands of years ago, and he said, 779 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 5: at the end of day's light will be called dark 780 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 5: and good will be called bad, and we have to 781 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 5: be careful for that. What we thought today from President 782 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 5: Trump was him calling bad bad, calling darkness darkness, and 783 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 5: that's something we all have to learn from and not 784 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 5: be afraid to say out loud. 785 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,959 Speaker 1: There are many things that people say about President Trump 786 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: that are certainly untrue. You're talking to us from Israel 787 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: right now. Israel, if it were a United State and 788 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 1: able to vote in the presidential election, would have voted 789 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: massively for Donald Trump, similar to the margins based on 790 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: the data that I've seen that West Virginia or Wyoming 791 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: did among the trumpiest of Trump's states. What do people 792 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: in Israel think when Trump is called Hitler? 793 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 5: Well, I think we all know in Israel's firsthand what 794 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,319 Speaker 5: Hitler did. He built concentration camps, he burned bodies in 795 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 5: the mass. My daughter just got back from Poland where 796 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 5: she was walking through Auschwitz, where her grandfather's family were burned, 797 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 5: his siblings, his grandparents, six million Jews that were murdered 798 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 5: in the Holocaust. For the Holocaust, the global Jewish population 799 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 5: was around twenty six million Jews. Still today we haven't 800 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 5: reached that number. We still haven't reached the numbers of 801 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 5: Jews around the world as there was before the Holocaust. 802 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 5: And so I think to call any democratic leader today 803 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 5: that isn't targeting and killing and setting up concentration camps 804 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 5: to even you as their name and the same sentence 805 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 5: as Hitler is not only offensive, it's dangerous because if 806 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 5: we don't learn from the mistake of the past, they 807 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 5: are maybe inevitably going to repeat themselves. God forbid. And 808 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 5: that's what we're seeing today when people are standing up 809 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 5: for Hamas, standing up for terrorists trying to trying to 810 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 5: support the yemen Huti terrorists who call death for Israel, 811 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 5: death for America as their slogan, and you see across 812 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 5: America that there are students that are supporting and calling 813 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 5: heroes the terrorists that want to destroy them. It's something 814 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 5: that we haven't learned from history. And then God forbid, 815 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 5: it could repeat itself. And so across the Middle East, 816 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 5: you know, in Islamic Muslim countries that are more moderate, 817 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 5: like Egypt and Saudi Arabia and Jordan and Morocco, it 818 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 5: is illegal to waive a Palestinian flag because that Pealsdinian 819 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 5: flag doesn't represent Palestinian people, it represents Hamas, it represents 820 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 5: the terror body that's leading them right now. And so 821 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 5: across the moderate Muslim world, you're not allowed to have 822 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 5: a preacher of Emam a mosque that's praising Famus or 823 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,799 Speaker 5: the Palestinian leadership. You'll literally go to jail. 824 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 8: And so what. 825 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 5: Happened They all less use moderate Islamic countries and went 826 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 5: to America and set up their mosques in America and 827 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 5: are doing their rallies with their Palestinian flags, praising from 828 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 5: US in America. And it's not only staying now with 829 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 5: the Islamic extremists, it's actually infiltrating into the brains and 830 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 5: lives and icy actions of young Americans, young Americans that 831 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 5: are now standing in solidarity with terrorists. If we don't 832 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 5: wake up immediately in the West, that will take over 833 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 5: everyone who now thinks that we don't need to give 834 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 5: it any attention, and we don't need to take a stand. 835 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: I think this is important as we go away, and 836 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: thank you for calling in from Israel. There aren't very 837 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: many countries in the Middle East where a gay or 838 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 1: a transperson could live with freedom. Israel is in fact 839 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 1: the only one. And so when you hear people on 840 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: the left somehow siding with Hamas or the idea of 841 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: anti Israel, it really is a cognitive dissonance that's even 842 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,359 Speaker 1: difficult to comprehend. I really wish people could come visit 843 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: and see. But yeah, I think that's important, and thank 844 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: you for joining. 845 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,879 Speaker 5: Us, Thank you so much. And I think it's so 846 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 5: important to remember that the Palestinian people are being oppressed 847 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 5: and held hostage by Hamas, which is a terror group 848 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 5: where women have to wear hey jobs. There's no freedom, 849 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 5: there's no freedom to vote, there hasn't been elections and 850 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 5: over ten years, there's no right for people to voice 851 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 5: any criticism of the government. And if they have anything 852 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 5: against a person, they could just kill them without any 853 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 5: sort of trial or any sort of legal document. And 854 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 5: so when we have terror groups that are ruling the 855 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 5: Palestinian people, I think when we say free Daza, they're 856 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 5: missing two words from hamas the sooner this terror group goes, 857 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 5: the sooner the Palestinian people will be able to be free. 858 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 2: Amen. 859 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, yell Exstein from Israel giving us the latest 860 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: from there and also reacting to the awful event in Washington, 861 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: d C. 862 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again soon. 863 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 5: Thank you so much. 864 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: A week and a half ago, President Trump declared prescription 865 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: drug prices are going to come down? 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That's Ease 884 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: for Everyone dot com slash Clay. Ease for Everyone dot 885 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: com slash Clay. Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. 886 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Flowing through 887 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 1: the Thursday edition of the program. We're joined now by 888 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: the Bluegrass States own Daniel Cameron, running for the Senate 889 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: seat to be vacated by Mitch McConnell next year. And Uh, 890 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: first of all, I'll start with this. We have not 891 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: talked about it a great deal, but I know the 892 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:07,280 Speaker 1: state of Kentucky along with Missouri, was slammed by tornadoes 893 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,959 Speaker 1: over the last several days and over the last week. 894 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 1: I'm sure that has been a major part of what 895 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 1: you have been seeing and talking about in the state. 896 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 1: How are people doing so far as you can tell us, Daniel. 897 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 8: Well, Clay Buck, thank you guys for having us on. 898 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 8: Ye it's I mean heartbreaking to see the lives lost 899 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 8: in parts of our community, particularly in the Summerset and 900 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 8: London community, Pulaski and Laurel County. It was obviously just 901 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 8: completely heartbreaking to lose folks and the devastation that occurred. 902 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 8: We've been encouraging people to help out the London Police Department. 903 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 8: They're collecting goods. I've also encouraged people to go to 904 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 8: Samaritan's Purse and American rep Cross, so there are a 905 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 8: few different outlets in Obviously the communities, local churches really 906 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 8: vital to helping rebuild and getting folks back on their 907 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 8: feat but it's going to be a long process. In fact, 908 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,760 Speaker 8: I'll be down there on Saturday to visit with some folks. 909 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 8: But yeah, thanks for bringing that up, because I know 910 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,439 Speaker 8: folks all across the country have been praying for those 911 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 8: communities in particular. You know, we had storms all across 912 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 8: the state that those communities in particular were hitting really hard. 913 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 8: So thank you for bringing that up. And yeah, if 914 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 8: anybody wants to give too, I mean again, the Samaritans Purse, 915 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 8: American Red Cross, local churches down in those areas certainly 916 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 8: would be grateful. 917 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: I know it's early and the election is not until 918 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,839 Speaker 1: next year. That is the Republican primary to set up 919 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 1: who's going to be running to replace Mitch McConnell on 920 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: that side. But what does the focus seem to be 921 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: to you so far as you travel the state of 922 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,560 Speaker 1: Kentucky and hear from people about the issues care about 923 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: the most. 924 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, Clay, I mean, I think people want a senator 925 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 8: from Kentucky that is going to stand with President Trump 926 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,480 Speaker 8: and help support an agenda that is about building back, building, 927 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 8: back up our mental class and the working men and 928 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,399 Speaker 8: women of this country. President Trump campaigned on that. That's 929 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 8: what this big, Beautiful Bill is about, is making sure 930 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 8: that we can lower people's taxes so they have more 931 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 8: money in their pockets. This is an administration that is 932 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 8: about securing our border, fighting the drug epidemic. It's about 933 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 8: creating energy independence in this country. That's a big deal. 934 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 8: In Kentucky, we are a commonwealth that to the extent 935 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 8: we have a competitive advantage. It's about our fossil fuels industry. 936 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 8: It's coal and natural gas, and having a president in 937 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 8: the White House that recognizes that in order to have 938 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 8: energy independence, we have to have and prioritize our fossil fuels. 939 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 8: That's a big deal. And so Kentuckians want a senator 940 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 8: that's going to stand up for their values, fight for 941 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 8: the Trump agenda. And I'm going to do that and 942 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 8: I've got a track record of having done that as 943 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 8: Attorney General. You know there will be people that jump 944 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 8: into this race, but what you will never hear somebody 945 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 8: say is that there's going to be somebody that's more 946 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 8: conservative and more supportive of the Trump administration than Daniel Cameron, 947 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 8: because there's not going to be. I've shown it with 948 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 8: my record, and I'm led by conviction. I mean, right now, 949 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:32,240 Speaker 8: in my current day job, I'm fighting diversity, equity inclusion, 950 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 8: I'm fighting against ESG because these are convictions. These are 951 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,400 Speaker 8: core convictions for me, and I want to take that 952 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 8: spirit and that energy to the United States Senate and 953 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,040 Speaker 8: fight on behalf of Kentuckian's and that's why I'm going 954 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 8: to win. Come. You're right, we're about a little less 955 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 8: than a year away from the May primary. But I'm 956 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 8: in a strong position given all the polling right now. 957 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,320 Speaker 8: I think the most recent poll have me up thirty 958 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 8: points to my next closest competitor. We're going to win 959 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 8: this primary, and we're going to win the all as well. 960 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 8: And I want as many people to get on board 961 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,359 Speaker 8: as they possibly can. I mean, I tell people all 962 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 8: the time, go to Cameron for Kentucky dot com check 963 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 8: us out. Certainly would be grateful for the help and support. 964 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: When you ran against Andy Basheer in the in the 965 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 1: governor's race. It seems like Andy Basheer is going to 966 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: try to run for President of the United States in 967 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. And I know you're running for the Senate. 968 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,880 Speaker 1: But when you look around at the candidates that the 969 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 1: Democrat Party is putting forward. We talk a lot on 970 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: this program about how young men, black, white, Asian Hispanic 971 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: are breaking away from the Democrat Party. And you know, 972 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,520 Speaker 1: I really say, men, you know, younger than the age 973 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: of forty five, for instance, certainly eighteen to twenty four 974 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,359 Speaker 1: year olds is off the charts. Why do you think 975 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: that is And do you see that reflected when you 976 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,920 Speaker 1: travel around in the state of Kentucky. 977 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 8: Absolutely, I mean you know that you know, men in 978 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,120 Speaker 8: particular wants somebody that's not going to demean them, is 979 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,879 Speaker 8: not going to belittle them, is not going to tell 980 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 8: them that they are the problem in every circumstance. And 981 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:15,400 Speaker 8: President Trump spoke to men of all races. He spoke 982 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 8: to men across this country in a way that candidly 983 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,439 Speaker 8: Republican and Democrats just hadn't done. And I think men 984 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,319 Speaker 8: have been grat gravitating to the Republican Party because again, 985 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 8: they're tired of a Democratic party that tell that belittles 986 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 8: them and tells them again that they are the issue 987 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 8: to every problem in this country. President Trump has been 988 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 8: strong in supportive, frankly, people of all walks of life. 989 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,359 Speaker 8: But the reason that men of different races have been 990 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 8: coming to the Republican Party is because, again, this is 991 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 8: a party that says, hey, it's it's okay to be 992 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 8: a man, it's okay to be strong, it's okay to 993 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 8: be a leader, and you don't have to apologize for that. 994 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 8: And the Democrats, for whatever reason, have decided to double 995 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 8: and triple down on this ideology that tells you it's 996 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 8: okay for men to play in women's sports, that we 997 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 8: somehow need to be afraid of masculinity. Again, President Trump says, 998 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 8: let's disregard that. Let's focus on men being leaders, working hard, 999 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 8: providing for their families and I hear that from people 1000 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 8: all across Kentucky that are tired of a Democratic Party 1001 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 8: that candidly has tried to diminish the importance of men 1002 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,399 Speaker 8: in our society. And you know, again, President Trump has 1003 00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 8: recognized that, has looked for ways to make sure men 1004 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 8: know that this is a party that supports them and 1005 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 8: is going to value them. 1006 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 1: We're talking to Daniel Cameron, running for Senate in Kentucky. 1007 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen this news yet, but 1008 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 1: you played college football at Louisville. There is news now 1009 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,319 Speaker 1: that the top twelve teams are going to make the 1010 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: college football playoff in order they're going to be that 1011 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 1: way that is just broken in the last fifteen or 1012 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 1: twenty minutes. Do you expect if you go on and 1013 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 1: I think you will become the next senator from Kentucky, 1014 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 1: do you expect that your Louisville Cardinal will during your 1015 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 1: first term in office make the college football Playoff? Would 1016 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 1: that be an expectation in six years? 1017 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 8: Play on the first point, I did play football U 1018 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 8: of L, but play is a very generous term. I 1019 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 8: took people all the time. I had a front row 1020 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,600 Speaker 8: seat to the best team in the house. When I 1021 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 8: was sitting on the bench. But hey man, look, hope 1022 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 8: springs eternal. I believe in coach Brom. Look, I believe 1023 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 8: wholeheartedly that within the first six years we're gonna have 1024 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 8: a UFL football team that is playing in the playoffs 1025 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 8: and hopefully competing ultimately for that national championship. That's my 1026 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 8: hope again. You know, Jeff Coach Brom was one of 1027 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 8: the quarterbacks coaches when I was playing, and they just 1028 00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 8: the Brons have a heart for not only the university, 1029 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 8: but for the community. And I know that's on their 1030 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 8: heart to push and to strive to get us in 1031 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,360 Speaker 8: that national championship game. So I'm hopeful that will happen. 1032 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 8: I'm hoping it'll happen on the earlier side of my 1033 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 8: term and not towards the end. You know, our fans, 1034 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 8: our fans are like Tennessee fans, They're like all fans. 1035 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 8: They want success immediately, So let's make sure we get 1036 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 8: them there early as opposed to the. 1037 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 2: Latter end of that first turn. 1038 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 1: All right, So last question for you. We just had 1039 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 1: the Kentucky Derby a couple of weeks ago. Buck and 1040 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,680 Speaker 1: I were up there last year. It was fabulous for Pitt. Now, 1041 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,680 Speaker 1: I know you're a Louisville guy, but one of the 1042 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 1: coolest things obviously is the derby. But also Keenland is 1043 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: pretty fabulous and a lot of UK people tell me 1044 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,839 Speaker 1: that the combo and I still haven't done it. The 1045 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 1: combo of Kentucky football and Keenland Race Day is one 1046 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 1: of the best days for a sports fan anywhere, even 1047 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 1: as a uiver U of L guy, even as a 1048 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,240 Speaker 1: Louisville guy. Would you give them that nod and say, 1049 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,359 Speaker 1: Keenland plus UK Football Day is pretty tough to beat. 1050 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 8: That's a that's a hard That is a hard day 1051 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,080 Speaker 8: to beat, regardless of where you are in the country. 1052 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 8: I mean that there's no better atmosphere than than spending 1053 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 8: a little time at Keenland and then at the uh 1054 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 8: you know for UK football game as well. And I'll 1055 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 8: just say, you know, in that circumstance, not only do 1056 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 8: you get to tailgate once, but you get to tell 1057 00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 8: gate twice because people tailgate before they go into to 1058 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 8: Keenland and then you tailgate before you go into the 1059 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,439 Speaker 8: football game. Uh So yeah, I mean, I I don't 1060 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 8: think you can you can argue with that position. Uh 1061 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 8: look there, look I'm I'm excited to be in a 1062 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 8: in a in a commonwealth, in a state where we've 1063 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:54,640 Speaker 8: got candidly like two two roughly two programs right now 1064 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,200 Speaker 8: that like are really trying to get their act together. 1065 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 8: I mean it makes the whole state better. I mean, 1066 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 8: you know how rivalries work, man, when when both teams 1067 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,800 Speaker 8: are playing well or you know, trying to contend, whether 1068 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 8: it's in the SEC or the ACC. You know, that's 1069 00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 8: a good thing for our state. So i'm you know, 1070 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,840 Speaker 8: I'm I'm I'm hopeful that you know, next time you 1071 00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 8: guys designed to come up for the combo, man, you're 1072 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 8: gonna invite me to tag a lot with you. 1073 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 1: We're going to try to do it this fall. I'm 1074 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: looking forward to it. Daniel Cameron, where can people find 1075 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 1: you if they're interested in following along with the Senate race? 1076 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1077 00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 8: Look again, I encourage your listeners to go to Cameron 1078 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 8: for Kentucky dot com. Join us, help us. If you 1079 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 8: want to give us some financial support, we'd be grateful 1080 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 8: for that as well. But again, this is for our 1081 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 8: kids and our grandkids. This is for making sure we 1082 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 8: have a merit based opportunity to society as opposed to 1083 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 8: what we've seen from the DEI bunch. This is about 1084 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 8: restoring that American dream, helping President Trump push forward on 1085 00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 8: his agenda. That's from the American worker for the men 1086 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 8: and women of this commonwealth and country. So I hope 1087 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 8: you'll join us, come on and let's go win this thing. 1088 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: Outstanding stuff. As always, we appreciate you and we will 1089 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,160 Speaker 1: talk to you again soon. Good luck on the campaign. 1090 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 8: I appreciate your brother. 1091 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 1: God bless that's Daniel Cameron. You can check him out 1092 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: as he just laid it out. And Buck is going 1093 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,200 Speaker 1: to be back here in a second. I'm gonna really 1094 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 1: let him kind of pour his sorrows out as a 1095 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: longtime New York Nick fan with the collapse that they had. 1096 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 2: In last night's game. 1097 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 1: But Oklahoma City is rolling right now, Minnesota Timberwolves are 1098 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,439 Speaker 1: in the mix. 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