1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This he's Talking 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Heawhoarters at 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: the Star in fris Joy and now your hosts Isaiah 5 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: stand back, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's well, 6 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: beat me up, Chris, and we are here for another 7 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: TCT Talking Cowboys Tuesday, sponsored by Tostitos, the official chip 8 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: and jip of the Dallas Cowboys. Come on, we gotta 9 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: get strong with strong. I didn't want to talk that. 10 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: I didn't want to know. Don't, don't, don't, Okay, I 11 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: guess I appreciate you. Dog. You know you don't know 12 00:00:54,440 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: your strip. You gotta be smooth. That strong hand, strong hand. 13 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: We gonna get to the strong hand, and they got 14 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: we got a lot of a lot of thing. We 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: got the strong hand to talk about. All right. Hey, 16 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: it's also America's chip for America's team. Right, thank you 17 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: for not getting me in any trouble because you're absolutely right. 18 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: That is what the reads my brother's supposed to do. 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to man style beaver with off the 20 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: top right. He definitely pulled the leg of a person 21 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: about the opinion. You need to pull their legs. That's 22 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: the cover team. Let's go. Thank you guys for joining 23 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: us this afternoon talking cowboys and guys. We got sixty 24 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: minutes of nothing but cowboys business to handle right now? 25 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: Yeah we go, oh hell yeah, hell yeah, we got 26 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: some business to handle. And look the owner and general manager. 27 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: What before I get to any of that, let me 28 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: let me be cause I'm I need to slowdown, gym shop. 29 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: I am. I am a little excited. I'm here with 30 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: my brothers, my usual suspect, my guy who has his 31 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 1: own island. Here's Rob pe trn of that pe all 32 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: gold everything. Yes, the island. Rob Phillips uh and my 33 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: guy always to my right are in front of me. 34 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: Former Cowboy and Super Bowl champion and Jim owner Champ 35 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: is here. The Champ is here, Isaiah Stanback brother, how 36 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: are you guys doing today? Well, we're good, We're good, 37 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: and you know what, Kyle's doing his thing out of town. 38 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: Why but he's in spirit with us right now. They 39 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: just passed the postseason overtime rule for Kyle just now 40 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: at the spring meeting that they do exactly what he 41 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: was asking for it. It's probably gonna make everybody. I 42 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: don't know the total ins and outs, but it says 43 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: both teams now get a possession in the postseason ot 44 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: not regular season. Somehow, I think that's gonna change after 45 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: next season. They're not gonna be pleased with that either. Yes, 46 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeoman's is in New York visiting his fiancee's family, 47 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: who's probably threatening him every thirty minutes. So good luck 48 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: with that, Kyle. We will make sure that we do 49 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: a good job in your absence. But guys, let's talk 50 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,119 Speaker 1: about it. Had an opportunity to hear the interview from 51 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: owner a general manager Jerry Jones in Florida. He was 52 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: holding court with the media and had some things to 53 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: say about how he is putting this team together. But 54 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: I thought what was most interesting was his discussion on 55 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: evaluating but ten to eleven players and the harsh, well, 56 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: the difficult decisions that he had head and p I'm 57 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: gonna start with you, but what were your thoughts on 58 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: the interview? Man? Well, you're right, we got some insight 59 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: on why Amari Cooper's not here anymore, why Randy Gregory 60 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: is not here anymore. And it does come down to 61 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: what you just said. He talked about how if you've 62 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: got ten or eleven guys taken up two thirds of 63 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: your salary cap, you gotta get your bank for your buck. 64 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: Now we can we can debate whether, you know, like 65 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: an Amari Cooper is featured enough in the offense to 66 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: get the bang for the buck. That's a whole separate 67 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: discussion with a Mari. But that's he feels good about 68 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: what their cap situation now is, and actually scribbled this 69 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: now with some chicken scratch, we are better with our money, 70 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: with our resources, we are better. We're in better shape 71 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: than we were this time last year. So basically, and 72 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: I mentioned this last week, what they did with Randy's money, 73 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: which was going to be roughly I think fourteen a year, 74 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 1: fourteen million a year, they resigned a bunch of guys 75 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: and brought in Dante Fowler and James Washington and fit 76 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: that under the cap because they do have a lot 77 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: of needs. Quantity. Quantity is kind of what they've been 78 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: going for. And look, you can debate whether that's the 79 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: right strategy or not, but that's that's that's where he's 80 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: coming from. And in the words of Steven Jones, we 81 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: got three players for one player. So Isaiah, I turned 82 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: to you, and I want to ask you philosophically, as 83 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: as a front office, with the substitutions, the addition by 84 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: subtraction that they made over the last couple of weeks, 85 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: where are you as far as the way that this 86 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: thing has started to shape up roster wise going into 87 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: this season? Are you think you think they're making the 88 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: right moves? These are tough decisions that they're making. Are 89 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: these decisions that you would have made if you had 90 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: that hat? No, no, no, they're not decisions that I 91 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: would have made. But I understand it, you know, And 92 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: I always, I'm always understands that you don't have to 93 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: like the decisions that are being made, but you have 94 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: to understand that, I mean, you gotta respect them. And 95 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: I think that's where I'm at right now in Cowboys Nation. 96 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: I think that Jerry Jones and the rest of the 97 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: squad are doing a great job. I think I said 98 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: that last week in terms of creating value, they are 99 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: doing a great job in that people don't like to 100 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: hear that because the superstars have left the building. Some 101 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: of the superstars have left the building, and I understand 102 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: the attachment to that the big name players, guys with 103 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: big contracts that followed, guys weren't being utilized to the 104 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: value in which they were being paid. And that's the 105 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: angle that he's speaking from. I don't believe he's speaking 106 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: from the standpoint. I hope he's not speaking from the 107 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: standpoint and saying that these players weren't worth what they 108 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: were getting paid. I do believe that he's standing behind 109 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: the scene. At least from my perspective, they just weren't 110 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: utilizing them. So if you have a Duly truck, right, 111 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: you got a Ford, you know, F three fifty and 112 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: you know you got you got the Duly, you know, 113 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: and you're putting gas in it. Yeah, but we're great sponsors. 114 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: But if you don't, if you're only driving to the 115 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: grocery store, what's the point of having a big boy truck, right, 116 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: If you're not if you're not putting anything in the 117 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: back of the truck, if you're not pulling anything, there's 118 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: no point of having a truck. Or get a golf cart, right, 119 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: or go get some go get some small They weren't 120 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: utilizing their big boy you know, in terms of Coop. 121 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: He was capable of so much, but they weren't utilizing him. 122 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: So if you're not gonna utilize him, get rid of 123 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: that and use that money elsewhere. And I think that's 124 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: exactly where Jerry Jones is coming from when he was 125 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: speaking about the speaking on those matters. And I think 126 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: they've done a great job of finding value with those 127 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: funds that they were going to have tied up. And 128 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: Randy's a little bit of a different story because that deal, 129 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: it was damn near done verbally not signed, but but 130 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: they wanted and I think they went up from what 131 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: they were offering initially to get that done. And then 132 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: we talked about it last week. There was whatever happened 133 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: there that I think obviously Randy Side was not happy 134 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: with some language in the contract whatever, and but Jerry 135 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: talked about how there was still some discussion that it 136 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: might get done. He spoke to that yesterday and then 137 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: ultimately said El Paso, we're gonna pass on that, We're 138 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna move on, and we're gonna fill holes 139 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: with that money with multiple players and and and Almari. 140 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: They just wanted they clearly they just wanted to move on. 141 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: From Mikey Wise and I'm glad you bring that up, man, 142 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: because when I read the word el paso, I'm gonna 143 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: use that and everything and then I do from now. 144 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: Wouldn't met the butcher block when they offered me passo 145 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: at this I mean to me, that was just reading 146 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: in between the lines that that was, you know, hit 147 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: the road, Jack and and Jerry's terms. And it seemed 148 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: like Randy Gregory was the one with all the beef 149 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: by not signing. We heard so much from him basically 150 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: saying that, look, you know, these guys tried to cut 151 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: in language and stuff like that, but but Jerry just 152 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: made it seem like I just wasn't gonna do what 153 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: they were asking me to do, especially if they wanted 154 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: more money. Is that the take that you got from it? 155 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: Or did you think that it was just one of 156 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: those things where it got contentious and he threw his 157 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: hands up. I haven't. I have not asked anyone since 158 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: I heard that, but I my first thought was it 159 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: probably had something to do with the structure of the 160 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: the language, like maybe maybe if they taken some of 161 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: their standard stuff out, then maybe Brandy would have come back. 162 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: Um that apparently that was that's not part of the 163 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: Denver's offer, that that language wasn't in there, about forfeiture 164 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: language and all that stuff. And Randy said, well, I'm 165 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, nah, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna move off 166 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: of that. And and that's that's the weird thing about 167 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: it was after the start it came out that this 168 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: is language that is universal. Everyone sort of has that 169 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: in their contract and Randy just obviously wasn't having it. 170 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: But guys, if you've paid attention to the fan base, 171 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: they are pissed off. Hey, there's no other way to 172 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: put it. They're disappointed in years past. I don't think 173 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: I've ever seen in years past the Cowboy fans just 174 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: pissed off at the front office by moves that they're making. 175 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: Are not making free agent acquisitions and all of that, 176 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: and they haven't done that in a decade or so, 177 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 1: not making a splash. Do you have faith up until 178 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: this point that there will be some type of big 179 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: trade happening in a free agent acquisition or do you 180 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: think they are fooling themselves by thinking that they can 181 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: get everything that they need in the draft. I don't 182 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: think they're done. I don't think they're done. I don't 183 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: know how many more big splashes. I think if you're 184 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: gonna get a big splash, I believe that it would 185 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: come in the form of like a Bobby Wagner. I 186 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: think that's what And I don't think that they have 187 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: the money to spend on Bobby Wagner, so that would 188 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: be a big splash. So I think that they obviously 189 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: have some key areas that need to get shirt up. 190 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: Some players are no longer available on the office of 191 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: line front. Guys are being in scooped up left and right, 192 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: so it doesn't seem as if they're that aggressive in 193 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: that nature. But you've seen some of these numbers also 194 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: that guys are getting, and the reality is their salary 195 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: cap situation doesn't allow for them to go out and 196 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: sign the big boys that everybody wants. That's the reality. 197 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: Everybody that is that you have circled on your list 198 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: that you want on this team is going to demand 199 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: big boy money. I mean, we're talking at least probably 200 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars a year for most of these guys. 201 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: Do they have that, no, sir, Rebob. So the reality 202 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: is the Cowboys are going to have to build this 203 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: team through the draft or through some trains, which the 204 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: trades are problem not likely at this point in time. 205 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to go find some talent that's 206 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: sitting around at the house that didn't get the big 207 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: money that they were hoping for. Right, free agents, you 208 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: don't like like Vanders, Right Vanders, They say, hey, go 209 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: out there and test it out. Oh there's no there's 210 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: nobody out there. Okay, yeah, come on back home. Right, 211 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: So they don't have to look for some guys like 212 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: that that are just sitting around hoping for the big opportunities, 213 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: and then scooped them up on some some very friendly deals. 214 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: But that's how they're going to have to add some 215 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: veteran depth as well as adding some players through the draft. 216 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: But there are some very key roles and positions that 217 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: have to be addressed, and those are very risky picks 218 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: in the draft. You started talking about tackle positions, you 219 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 1: start you started talking about you know, you know linebackers. 220 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: You know the key guys in a linebacker rush guys. 221 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: These are guys that you can swing a miss. You 222 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: can swing a miss. If you hit it, you hit it. 223 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: But that's a high probability, you know, even in baseball. 224 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: Three hundreds are good batting presenters, but you still missing 225 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: seven out of ten. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, I don't. 226 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: I don't think they're done either in free agency, but 227 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: I don't I don't see a huge swing and a 228 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: big game changing guy come in through free agency. I 229 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: think they're draft meetings start Monday, and I think that's 230 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: the larger focus will shift to that pretty soon. Um. 231 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was on a conference call with the media. 232 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: He did not go to the spring meetings in Florida 233 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: this week. Dave Hellman was on the phone with him. 234 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: Shout out today for helping us out there. Um. And 235 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: and they're going to Bama's Pro day tomorrow. You know, 236 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: he's he's gonna be knee deep in draft stuff. But 237 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: I think they've still got things to do in free agency. 238 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: They got to get a kicker. They were hopeful to 239 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: resign Greg's rline on a more probably more team friendly deal. 240 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: That did not happen. He went to the Jets. Um. 241 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: He acknowledged that that interior offensive line, guard center or 242 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: wherever is a spot where they could use some help 243 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: in free agency if it presents itself. I know, you know, 244 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: but like you said, who's who's out there? Will Hernandez 245 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: just signed with the Cardinals. He was a guy that 246 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: could be kind of you know, I think you could 247 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: view him as a as a stop gap, a cover, 248 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: cover yourself guy, bridge player and then going to the 249 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: the way they do this, I mean, that's James Washington, 250 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: perfect example for the receiver position going in. Um, those 251 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: are two spots that stand out right away. And but 252 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: but yeah, I think the heavy lifting at this point's 253 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: got to go through the draft. But we've got a 254 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: Pro bowlers signed since we has met? Correct, didn't we 255 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: sign a Pro Bowler back? Which Pro Bowler? Yes? Freaking Anger? 256 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yes, you got? I mean we got. How 257 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: are you just gonna just disregard a pro two of 258 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: them in the whole league? My bad? Yes, Anger is back. 259 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: Anger the kickers back right, three millions. He's one of 260 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: the top two players in the world. I'm sorry if 261 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: I didn't just either. Yeah, that's hey, I know. But 262 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: he changed the dynamic of this defense last year. He 263 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: helped them out a ton. Tell you what, there are 264 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: some games in December I'm thinking New Orleans and they 265 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: just couldn't get anything going consistently. Offensively. He was a 266 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: big part of with him winning these ugly games down 267 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: the stretch. But feel position ball control, we did a 268 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: lot of that. But nothing sexy so far. No, no, 269 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: nothing sexy. And it's one of those It's one of 270 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: those times in the off season. I got a picture 271 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: of the night professor when his wife trying to come 272 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: out on sex. He said, what are you doing that, 273 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: Curtin role? Nothing sexy happening right now. And I think 274 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: from the outside looking in, everyone is kind of like, 275 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: how do you think you're going to fair with this? 276 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: And it going to coming into twenty twenty one, no 277 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: one had the expectations, especially with the defensive line. I 278 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: think you still kind of had some confidence in your 279 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: offensive line that was probably misplaced, but I think that's 280 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: where you had the most confidence. But just from the 281 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: outside looking in, it just seems as though status quo 282 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: may not get the Cowboys where they need to be, 283 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: because if you look around the NFC East, they're getting 284 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: other teams are getting better. I mean, they have the 285 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: cap space and they are bringing in players that that 286 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: doesn't make you nervous to think that, oh, we're just 287 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: staying status quo right now, and not making any stride. No, 288 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: it makes me nervous. It does. It does because and 289 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: while they have signed a couple guys to fill some spots, 290 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: and it allows them to be a little bit more 291 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: flexible with their cap like they want to be. Like okay, 292 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: like to your point this time every year, fans playing 293 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: on Twitter and especially my mail bag inbox, I'm kind 294 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: of doing this when I'm opening and because it's it's tough. 295 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: But I think you're right, Like I think, I think 296 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: fans are even more frustrated, at least a group of 297 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: fans that we see on social media are because you 298 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: throw in not only their strategy, and you can debate 299 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: whether it's the right strategy to have in free agency, 300 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: but they've they've lost Tomari Cooper, they lost law Collins, 301 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: they lost Randy Gregory, and and there have not been 302 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 1: signings or additions that make you feel like, well we upgraded, 303 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: certainly not upgraded. You filled the spots, but you know, 304 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: but like Jerry said, we weren't better yes yesterday. He said, 305 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: we weren't better before the draft, until we got Michael Parsons, 306 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: or until we got Ceedee Lamb two years ago. I 307 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: think they're saying, wait and see, we're not We're not 308 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: done yet. But no, I mean they're It's hard to 309 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: look at this roster right now and say, well, they're 310 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: they're better than they were last year. I don't see 311 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: that on paper. I don't see. And some of that 312 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: frustration also stems from the fact that you see how 313 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: other teams are getting more bang for their bucks. And 314 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like the Trek Tyrek Hill trade, I mean, 315 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: think about what Miami gave up for him and what 316 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: we got for Amari Cooper Adams. That's a whole a 317 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: nother subject. I'm just saying, why did we why did 318 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: we give up so much leverage pe in that situation, 319 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: even with Leo Collins. I mean we basically let this 320 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: guy walk, and we gave up a first for Coop, 321 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: got a fifth for him, and I mean literally like, 322 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: we're not And even with Randy Gregory not able to 323 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: get anything if he's gonna leave, We're not. Even this 324 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: is not a sign and trade. He basically essentially goes 325 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: and we get nothing. Well, Randy's different, yeah, because he's 326 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: unrestricted and he could just he could just walk. Um 327 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: diamari one. I think people look at that one eye 328 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: opened right now because the Tyree news that happened with Miami, 329 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: um Davante Adams goes to Vegas and and they get 330 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: a nice haul of draft picks, right. I mean, I 331 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: think those guys are I think the differences. Those guys 332 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: are top five like game changing players. And this is 333 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: this is gonna probably sound like a knock on a 334 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: Mari Cooper as not because I think they should have 335 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: kept a Mari Cooper, but those guys are have been 336 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: game changing players for teams that have won Super Bowls, 337 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: are competed for Super Bowls lately, and I think that's 338 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: that's where the difference is. Um And it's kind of 339 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: a what have you done for me lately? League? You know, 340 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: and and a Mari he didn't have a big year 341 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: last year. We can debate why, but I think it's 342 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: I think those guys are considered at a different level. 343 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: Plus the Cowboys, it was well known the Cowboys were 344 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: probably gonna move on from Amar if they heard, you know, 345 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: and I don't there wasn't any report out there that, oh, there, 346 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 1: you know, the Chiefs are gonna cut Tyreek Hill. I mean, 347 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that was gonna happen. I think the 348 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys gave up a lot of leverage by letting that 349 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: information kind of leak out. And Isaiah, I guess my 350 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: question to you as a wide receiver, and you if 351 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: the Cowboys already knew they were going to move off 352 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: of Amari Cooper, why not get something bigger for a 353 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: guy that you put a first You traded a first four, 354 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: and then you see later that teams are getting you know, first, second, third, 355 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean future picks. And I like what you said. 356 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: You know these guys are game changing receivers, But I'm 357 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: sorry when we got Amari Cooper, wasn't that the thought 358 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: process that he was that game changing guy? And if 359 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: he's not, he was twenty eighteen. Hem was the reason 360 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: you got to the playoffs. So I mean, let's say 361 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 1: three through five, where is Amari Cooper in the list 362 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: of great wide receivers in the NFL? And I kind 363 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: of look at it just just to finish up to me, 364 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: there's it's like talking about quarterbacks, like there's a difference 365 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: between like Dax and excellent. I think he's an excellent quarterback, 366 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: but there's different levels, Like there's guys, there's Rogers, Brady's 367 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, and then to me, that's where a Mari 368 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: is below those guys and what they've done the last 369 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: couple of years. I think that's when the Cowboys obviously 370 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: feel the same way, because they didn't they weren't willing 371 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: to push money into future years on Amar's deal and 372 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: say hey, you're gonna be part of our future. They 373 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: felt like, based on the production, we're gonna move on. 374 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: I agree. I think Tyreek Hill is obviously he got 375 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: what he should have gotten. I mean, he's that dynamic 376 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: of a player. You look at DeVante Adam and say 377 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: he's that dominant of a player. Amari Cooper is very capable. 378 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: I'm not putting him in that same conversation with them 379 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: simply because those guys just single handley can disrupt the game. 380 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: I think Amari Cooper can too, but they can in 381 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: any system. So to that point, yes, I feel like 382 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys still should have gotten more value for him. Now, 383 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: should they have been able to get a first and 384 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: all these other No, but they should at least been 385 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: able to get a third round pick for him, A 386 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: couple of third round picks, you know, But I think 387 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: that it would have needed to happen during a season, 388 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: because as soon as the season ended, we're got out 389 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: and everybody's looking at their salary cap issues. Amar's chances 390 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: are he's probably not gonna He's not being utilized. It 391 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like killing more cares for him, you know whatever. 392 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: All these rumors about what he possibly said about Day, 393 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff that started coming about, and 394 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: you just realized that you were losing all your leverage 395 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: in terms of your ability to actually trade him away 396 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: because teams were like, oh, we'll just away from him 397 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: become a free agent. Yeah. I agree mainly that, but 398 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: but I also wonder maybe if his contract has something 399 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: to do with it, because he's got three years left 400 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: on a deal that a team, some team has to absorb. 401 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: Davante Adams is on the franchise tag, you can rip 402 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: that up and sign him to whatever you want, and 403 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: Tyreek was on a very team friendly one year left 404 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: on his contract too. I think it's a little different 405 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: when you look at financially. Maybe Cleveland's happy. Cleveland's very happy. 406 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: Yeah they are, And obviously they're gonna use Amari Cooper 407 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: a lot differently than we did. H And I like 408 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: what you just brought up just the details of how 409 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: those guys's contracts were expiring, and obviously on the franchise tag, 410 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: and those guys were completely different our guys, meaning the 411 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: guys that were here. But I love what you said 412 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: as well, when you led off by saying that, Look, 413 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: it's like having a dully that you only used to 414 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: go to the grocery store and now you send it 415 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: to Cleveland and it's a car hauler. It's doing all 416 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: the hauling horses and heat, showing you how basically showing 417 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: you how to use this thing. And I think that's 418 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: exactly where things are going in and for us, I 419 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: think the fan base is really ticked off about the 420 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: lack of compensation that we could have gotten. What are 421 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: you about to say? Do you think I'm Mary Cooper 422 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: is happy right now? I think he is today. I 423 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: think he is. He probably. I mean, Deshaun Watson's a 424 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: terrific quarterback. He's I mean, they're gonna be a good offense. 425 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: I think he wanted to stay here, though he did, 426 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 1: and you know, you saw the Cowboys or the Browns 427 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: restructure his deal as soon as they brought him in. 428 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: It wouldn't have surprised me. If Marie would have been 429 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: willing to do it, Tank did to stay and get 430 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: a new, restructured deal, maybe you take a little less 431 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: at you don't think that was presented to him. I 432 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: think they were ready to move on, honestly, and it's 433 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: not that they don't think he's a good quarterback. But 434 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: again it's it's a value and all that stuff. And 435 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: if you look at if they were to restructure. We 436 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: talked about this in the mail bag today, Nick and I. 437 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: If they were to restructure and push more money down 438 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: where his cap figures ballooning in a couple of years, well, 439 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Ceedee Lambs deal is up. 440 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: And so how do you make that that work? And 441 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: they're willing to say, look, Ceedee Lamb can be our 442 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: number one guy. Whether we're skeptical of that or not, 443 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: we've we've covered this, but they're willing to do that. 444 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: And they I think they think they can go on 445 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: the draft and find another Michael Gallup and Mike gets healthy, 446 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: he's your number two, and then we develop another young 447 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: guy because they've done it. They've done it in the past. 448 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: They've drafted two receivers that they both feel good about 449 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: well they feel, they feel firmly in their beliefs and 450 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: have moved coop on the dully. I will always associate 451 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: a dully with him as long as I as long 452 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: as I see him. 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But coach Mike McCarthy 500 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: was not at the annual meetings, right, and they took 501 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: the pictures of all that they had coaches, And was 502 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: he hanging out with Taker? He was noting missing in action? 503 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean Taker was here. No, he wasn't hanging out 504 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: with taking later he was here at the middle of honor. 505 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: Oh not here, but okay, yeah, yeah, I'm just imagining, 506 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: like at the training table, just I saw the excitement 507 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: of your eyes. He saw that it's a twinkle and 508 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: he didn't even call me. Yeah, damn it. So Mike 509 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: McCarthy's missing, Yeah, all right, not missing. He's he was 510 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: on the phone today, he said he was yesterday. I 511 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: wrote my notes down. He said he was going back 512 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: through the red zone offense today and so well, not 513 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: at the meeting, he was. He's watching film man, trying 514 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: to get better. There was only twenty eight guys in 515 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: the picture, so there's four guys missing. There were four 516 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: guys missing. It was four guys missing. If you go 517 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: back to the picture, there's twenty eight guys in the picture, 518 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: so four guys were missing. Can you identify who those who? 519 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: Little bit Chris Belichick? I know three of them. Yes, 520 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: Belichick was one. Belichick skips the breakfast usually, Yes, he 521 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: never takes the picture. Okay. Dan Campbell, who just got 522 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: announced to be on Hard Knocks, was not there. McCarthy. 523 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: I don't know who the other one was, so okay, 524 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: tweet Rob if you know who the last one. Yeah, 525 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: everybody's only talking about Mike not being there, you know, 526 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: But there was four people that weren't in the picture. 527 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: So Let's talk about Mike. Okay, Mike, about Mike. Let's 528 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: talk about Mike, because Mike wasn't there and everybody's concerned, 529 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: and obviously coach Belichick has it has you know what 530 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: you want, infamous for not being at any of these 531 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: things and skipping them whenever. But for coach Mike McCarthy, 532 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: it kind of gives you the, I guess, the twinge 533 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: of man, I am coaching my butt off. All right, 534 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: look at me. I'm busy out here looking at red 535 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: zone tape and I am on the road. Is this 536 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: a man that feels is though he is coaching for 537 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: his football future here in Dallas? Because if you turn 538 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: on the radio, if you read any of the articles, 539 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: he is basically lamed duck and that there there are 540 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: other guys won't say his name, that are going to 541 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: be a TV this year that are waiting on him 542 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: to just for his demise. So why are people so 543 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: comfortable with disrespecting coach Mike McCarthy. Well, I mean, the 544 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: way the season ended, there's I mean, like you said, 545 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: there's as much frustration with the fan base as we've 546 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: seen in a long time, because it's just another year 547 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: on top of the year since ninety five when they 548 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: got it done. I think, yeah, I'm sure he feels pressure. 549 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: I mean, this job you do everywhere. I don't know 550 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 1: who doesn't except for maybe Belichick because he can kind 551 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: of do whatever he wants. He's a made man. But yeah, 552 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean I think he absolutely does. And I think 553 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: he is trying to show. He spoke to it on 554 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: the call this morning. This is the biggest class draft 555 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: class in a long time because of the COVID rules. 556 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: They're trying to dive in. Man, he's trying to be 557 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: do whatever it takes to get back to where they 558 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: were not fall short. So or he realizes that he 559 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have any salary cap money. It's been our free 560 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: agents and he has to do his home work to 561 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: find some some jewels in the draft? Does that too? 562 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: And for I mean just asking you, based off of 563 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: your experience, is that something that most head coaches do 564 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: instead of their assistance scouts, that they're out there boots 565 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: on the ground making these things happen. They're all working. 566 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: I'll just say that all coaches are working. He didn't 567 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: miss that meeting because he was watching film. I'm not 568 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: sure what the reason was, but I know for a 569 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: fact it wasn't because he was watching film. They have 570 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: these things called tablets nowadays, this crazy technology, and they 571 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: said they give them to you go on road trips 572 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: and you have access to cloud. There's a thing called 573 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: a cloud and you can pour down all the files 574 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: that you really want to watch. So he can do 575 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: that anywhere he wants to. I don't, So I don't 576 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: know why he missed that meeting. Why are people hard 577 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: on him while he's a head coach of the Dallas 578 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Dallas Cowboys haven't won a championship in 579 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: a very long time, and that was probably the most 580 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: stacked roster they've had since I would say that I 581 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: played here back in two thousand and seven. So the 582 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: fact that they missed on a huge opportunity, Yeah, people 583 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: are gonna be all over his head, especially when you're 584 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: in the limelight like he is. So at the beginning 585 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: of the season with the roster that we saw, you 586 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: your expectations for the Dallas Cowboys were what oh, I mean, 587 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: the NFC championship was supposed to be just a sea walk. 588 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: There's a sea walk through that and then get to 589 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: the playoffs and take care of business. I mean, I don't, 590 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: I don't, I didn't, I don't can't remember exactly what 591 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: I said at that point in time in terms of 592 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: I didn't have super Bowl written on their forehead, But 593 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: I mean I expected him to get passed the first round. Yeah, 594 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: at least or to have the buy. I think for me, 595 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: it's it's really weird to hear an NFL coach that 596 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: was Yeah, I was sorry. That was a huge that 597 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: the buy is where a lot of my weight was. Yeah, 598 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: I was very disappointed. Probably get that by right, they 599 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: needed the buying, but but just hearing the disrespect for him, 600 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: um from from media, media from media, just basically saying that, 601 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, this year obviously wasn't the result that he wanted. 602 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: As a coach, everyone sets their expectation on the Super Bowl. 603 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: But let's just say, hypothetically, if Mike wasn't the coach 604 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys and it was Lincoln Riley, a 605 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: coach like that, right, and he comes in, he goes 606 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: six and ten his first season in the COVID year, 607 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: You're probably giving him some grace because of the COVID year, 608 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: but then coming back and getting a twelve and five 609 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: winning the division and going to the playoffs having the 610 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: same results, disappointing your expectation would be a lot different 611 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: your I guess disappointment would be a lot different. Mike 612 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: McCarthy is the fifth winning this coach active coach in 613 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: the NFL, and no one mentions that at all, the 614 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: number of NFC games that he's played in the Super 615 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: Bowl that he has. Everyone else gets that mentioned besides him, 616 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: And I think that's the disrespect that I'm talking about. Well, 617 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: that goes back to you know, Green Bay and playing 618 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: with Rogers, and you know, when you have a quarterback 619 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: who's a first ballot Hall of Famer that's kind of 620 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: running things like you do you get enough credit, you know? 621 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: Or is it just Aaron doing most of the work. 622 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: So I think that's probably where it comes from. But yeah, 623 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: I think the frustration too, Like you just said, he's 624 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: got he's got the resume, and that's they didn't bring 625 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: in a young guy or a Dan Campbell to build 626 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: with its to win now because and part because of 627 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: his history, I can get teams to the super Bowl 628 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: and that didn't happen. So yeah, I mean that's and that, 629 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: like Isaiah said, I mean that is part of the 630 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: job when you coach here like that, that is the expectation. 631 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: He he understands that he's coming from Green Bay. It's 632 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: just a bigger market. And people call for mister Jones 633 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: to step down all the time. He got five dog 634 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: on rings, you know what I'm saying. He got rings 635 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: on rings, and you know, but when was the last 636 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: time he had one. It's been a minute. So people 637 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: are calling for his head and they're like, oh, cowboys, 638 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: cowboys aren't doing nothing. And he's the greatest greatest owner 639 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: in NFL history, right, So I mean, people are gonna 640 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: call for your head of success doesn't follow, and it's 641 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: coming off a roster as stacked as this one, and 642 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: for them to lay an egg the way in which 643 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: they did, yeah, there's gonna be a ton of scrutiny, 644 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: and very deservingly so. And maybe he's trying to send 645 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 1: a message to his team by not coming out here, 646 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: because he did say, like we saw the overtime rule, 647 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: but there there's not much that the coaches are doing 648 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: this week. There's not a lot of voting going on 649 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: this week, and compared to pass spring meetings, and maybe 650 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: he's trying to send a message like, I mean, we 651 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: got captain's workouts going on. I hear that the offseason 652 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,959 Speaker 1: voluntary program starts next month. I'm here. I'm busting my ass. 653 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: Let's go, okay, Robbie. I'm just oh, well, yeah, I'm here. 654 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm not promise you that, but we needn't clip that. Please, 655 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm here. I'm busting my heart that, Chris. Please. So 656 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: aside from obviously the obvious days he's out, he's out 657 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: on the road, he's finding guys, he has his tablet 658 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: out at all times. He's looking at the red zone. 659 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: Alabama tomorrow, Alabama tomorrow. This guy is living out of 660 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,479 Speaker 1: a hotel room, private jets, which that's not unique. By 661 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: the way, I've gone to that meeting in Florida and 662 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: I've run into Jason Garrett ten years ago in the 663 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: gift shop and he's like, yeah, headed down to Tescaloosa tomorrow. 664 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: We're flying on the way home or flying stopping there. 665 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you do. It's Alabama. Who doesn't 666 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: go to that protay. But but no one ever questioned 667 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: where Jason Garrett was. There were those were never tabloid 668 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: front that was that was never Newsworthy What Jason Garrett? 669 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: What clapping convention? The clapping convention. I'm just I'm just saying, 670 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean, think about the difference. Right now, everyone's asking 671 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: the question, where's Mike, Where's Mike? Where's Mike? No one 672 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: ever asked why Jason was at dude getting you know, 673 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: clues in from Sachski. No one ever asked what was happening. 674 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, why is it so different for 675 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: for this guy? And what do you guys? Nothing is it? 676 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: Is it? Nothing short of a super Bowl that will 677 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: save him? Is that? Where we are? That's the expectation. 678 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: That's the expectation every year. But I'm just saying, like, literally, 679 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: if we're sitting back, hope, that's the hope hoping expectations. 680 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: Roster was set and people saw the product on the 681 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: field and saw the culture changes specifically on defense and 682 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: how that it really rolled over into the offensive side 683 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: of things, and saw the early killing Moore who still 684 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: had gifts in his bag. I think the expectation rose 685 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: to at least second round of playoffs, first round of 686 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: like NFC Championship and first round playoffs, and okay, now 687 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: we need to start talking about Okay, now we're talking 688 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: about the NFC championship. Now we're talking about possibly going 689 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: to Super Bout. That was the expectation once those first 690 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: couple of weeks kind of went by, because you saw 691 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: what this team was capable of, and you saw how, how, 692 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: how how the continuity was really coming together with those guys. 693 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: So I don't care who the head coaches at the 694 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys right now, I don't. You could you could 695 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: say any of the names that you know that we 696 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: know are out there right now, and I don't care 697 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: if Sean McVay, it still would have been the same. 698 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: I mean, if if it was a failure, it was 699 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: a failure to launch only home team to lose in 700 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: the first roup. Yeah, and that, yeah, that's probably where 701 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: it stems from mostly. But I look, I didn't I 702 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: did not have I didn't have Super Bowl expectations for 703 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: this team going in the playoffs. I I really did 704 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: not not expectations because I thought this was as balanced 705 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: and competitive as NFC as we've seen in a while. 706 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: And San Francisco has championship medal man and they showed it, 707 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: and they came within an eyelash and beating the Rams 708 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: two weeks after that, they went to Green Bay. I 709 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: didn't feel great about the Cowboys if they had to 710 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: go to Green Bay. I didn't feel great about them 711 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: winning that game because they couldn't run the ball effectively 712 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: up there and down the stretch. They couldn't run the ball. 713 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 1: I can't get clapping convention out of my head. I 714 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: don't even know it's a good one. A lot of 715 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: technique of off, a lot of technique. So over the 716 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks we have seen coaching vacancies get 717 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: filled and the Dallas Cowboys brought in Brian Schottenheimer, a 718 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: guy that you were familiar with. I can't wait to 719 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: hear what you think about that higher who's coming on. 720 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: He's replacing Ben McAdoo who left for Carolina to be 721 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, and also ran A Stewart who is 722 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: the special team's assistant UH taking the place of Matt 723 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: Daniels who is now with the Vikings. And so just 724 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: kind of giving giving everyone some some information about those 725 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: coaches UH and why those UH spots were actually field robot, 726 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: I'll come to you. Well, yeah, I mean, like you said, 727 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: Stewart comes from Green Bay. So there's a history there, UM, 728 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: and you know Fossil has had a right hand guy 729 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: and UM in the past, so they were going to 730 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: fill that spot. Matt Daniels was highly regarded here, so 731 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: wish him the best. UM. As far as Brian Schottenheimer, 732 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: I think it's it's going to be similar to what 733 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: Ben McAdoo here did here, and people were making a 734 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 1: big deal out of this. Look, it's it's not Kellen 735 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: Moore dan Quinne need help. No, I mean, it's it's 736 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: it's a game planning addition, it's a guy that Mike 737 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: McCarthy worked with from the moment he got in the NFL. 738 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: I mean, he knew his dad, Um Marty, and worked 739 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: with him in ninety eight in Kansas City, and it's 740 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: an opportunity for him to come here and help out, 741 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: I mean, and be another set of eyes for to 742 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,800 Speaker 1: help out some of the younger guys on the staff, 743 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: to help with the weekly game plans, looking ahead, stuff 744 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,919 Speaker 1: like that. Not a big deal, UM, So that's that's 745 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: that's behind it. It's funny that you mentioned coaching and 746 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: the pressure on Mike McCarthy, and I do think part 747 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: of it is because it's gonna have to come through coaching, 748 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: Like we said, like we they've they've made some some 749 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: solid editions, a couple of solid editions in free agency, 750 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: but they still got holes to fill. It's not looking 751 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: like it's going to be as deep as a roster. 752 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: Coaching's got to bring that together. We saw what Dan 753 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: Quinn did on defense last year. It's got to come 754 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: through coaching and coaching guys up and guys taking another 755 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: step forward at ceedee Lamb taking another step forward. That's 756 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: where it comes from on this roster that they're going 757 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: to be better than they were last year. And these 758 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: aren't coaching vacans. This isn't a coaching position that they created. 759 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: These were vacancies that they field and so I believe, 760 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 1: and so Ben mcadoo's position was basically following league trends 761 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: and game planning and so making sure that the team 762 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,279 Speaker 1: was if there's a Sunday Thursday game, that they are 763 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: already up on who they're going up against next. That 764 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: was Ben mcadoo's job. What is it Isaiah? Isaiah has 765 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: this look? So yes, there's an assistant to the assistant. 766 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: So this is the way we're putting this together. And 767 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,479 Speaker 1: this is the guy that's going to help Kellen Moore 768 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: right the ship and get this offense clicking. Baby, really, 769 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: OK Yeah, I mean there's a lot of jobs in 770 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: the NFL now, they just kind of make things listen. 771 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: He has a great resume in terms of places that 772 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: he's been experienced, He's had quarterbacks, he's had the opportunity 773 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: to work with. So I hope that he can come 774 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: in and add something to that quarterback room. I hope 775 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: that he can bring an element that Dak needs to 776 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: help him with the development of his game. And maybe 777 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: that that's a key portion to the putting them over 778 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: the edge this year. You know, to your point, you know, 779 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: that doesn't look like they're gonna have the roster depth 780 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: that they need, but maybe they have the coaching depth. 781 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: Maybe the coaches are able to have that much more 782 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: of an impact and it affects the product on the field. 783 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm just baffled by these coaching positions 784 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 1: that just keep getting created. What you just described, every 785 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: team has that without having that position as of a coach, 786 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: Every team had these the offensive you know, assistance and 787 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. They work weeks in advance, 788 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,919 Speaker 1: weeks in advance you could be in week one, they're 789 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: breaking down week six like that's how far off and 790 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: these guys are because by the time yet game actually approaches, 791 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: they're handing you a folder that has all way too 792 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: much information in it, that has analytics broken down by 793 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 1: personnel groupings on down a distance third and third and 794 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: one to three versus down in four to you know, 795 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: third and four to six when this personnel versus this 796 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: personnel grouping. This is the percentage they blizz this like 797 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: it's so much information. I don't even know how they 798 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: do it. Let to sit in and just learn for 799 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: a second with a check. Uh. But so, I mean 800 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: they just figured they just found a role for him, 801 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: They just wanted them on the staff, and they just 802 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: created something. Now with your experience, you obviously being a 803 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: Seattle native, what do you what are your what have 804 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: been what has been your observation of Shottingham. I don't 805 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: have anything to add, honestly. I mean, he wasn't there 806 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: when I was there. He was there later on in 807 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: a you know, twenty and eighteen somewhere around there. Um, 808 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: he's had an opportunity to work with Russell Wilson. So 809 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: I'm hoping that there's some things that he could take 810 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: from that, um, you know, to bring over to help 811 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: with Dak's game. And that's I mean, hopefully that's the 812 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: element that he brings. I would assume that that's the 813 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: leadership aspect that they're hoping to bring into that room 814 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: to try to take some of that off. Maybe there's 815 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: needs to be a buffer between Kellen Moore and Dak, 816 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But hopefully he can be that 817 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: guy that can be the dog on angel on Dak's 818 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: shoulder to help him make good decisions and that angel 819 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: that he definitely needs, that good angel on his shoulder. 820 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 1: But the thing is is that when you look at 821 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: Brian Schottenhammer's coaching record in twenty eighteen when he was 822 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: with Seattle, that was the year that Seattle was leading 823 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 1: the league in rushing. I mean, which is a passing 824 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: coordinator guy and all that. I think that's kind of 825 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: a you know, action team man, absolutely a play action team. 826 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: And I also like what you said about Russell Wilson. 827 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: I think if I've always had the equivalent of a 828 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: game like comparison has always been between Dak and Russell, 829 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: which I think Russell obviously has the incredible arm. But 830 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 1: at the same time, I think that that's the correlation 831 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: between the two. He also had a stint in Jacksonville. 832 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: But nothing about this bothers you guys from a bringing 833 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: in new coaches just status quo. You're basically saying that, Look, 834 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: this isn't anything new, this is what you know guys 835 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: do anyway. But but does that set the table for 836 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: what we've been talking about for Mike McCarthy, as you 837 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: alluded to before, Like, look, this is going to be 838 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 1: a coaching challenge, and just like Dan quinn, Uh, these 839 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: guys are gonna have to bring that level up, uh, 840 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: in order to keep I don't want to say keep 841 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: their jobs, but you know, obviously elevate this team. Now, 842 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: look at the offensive line. Look at look at I mean, 843 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a new left guard, whether it's a 844 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,959 Speaker 1: draft pick, whether it's a stop gap veteran. They're gonna 845 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: probably try to bring us in competition at center. Um, 846 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 1: they got to still got a young guy and Terrence Steele, 847 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: who's the right tackle. Like that's they've got to take 848 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: a step forward. And that's you know, that's largely on 849 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: Joe Philbin too to coach up that room. So um, 850 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: it's a it's gonna be a huge factor and in 851 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: whether they can take another step forward because I still 852 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: think there's talent on this team. We talked about, like 853 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: Jerry mentioned the ten to eleven guys, it's a fifty 854 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: three men roster, and they were they were fortunate last 855 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 1: year to have as much health as they did down 856 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: the stretch. You can't count on being as a healthy 857 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: as they were. Dream yeah on January for a future year. 858 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,280 Speaker 1: And so I love the question also that was asked 859 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: h Jerry about what you know we're doing in the 860 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: draft and his thing was, yeah, I'm doing offensive line 861 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 1: unless there's a Micaul CD sitting there, which which which 862 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: I don't believe any of it because you know they're 863 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: they're going heading in a whole nother direction. But Michael, 864 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: I just just off the cuff. I gotta ask at 865 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: left guard, why hasn't Connor McGovern been given much consideration 866 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: there at left guard? I mean everyone was was was, 867 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: you don't have the pump poems out for a mid 868 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: mid season and now that's all dissipated and going away. 869 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 1: Come on, I say tell me something. That's your guy, 870 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: that's your guy. C. Matts n I have done it 871 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: against McGovern. I think he's a good player, but I 872 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: think I think you have to bring somebody in who's 873 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 1: just either just was a complete dog in college, like 874 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: they're just like he has an attitude like I'm a 875 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,959 Speaker 1: dog and I'm McNasty and I don't care who stands 876 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: in front of me. I don't care everything. They've been 877 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,240 Speaker 1: in the league for teen years and I'm a rickie. 878 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: You got to either bring in that type of guy 879 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 1: that's just physically imposing, or you have to bring in 880 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: a veteran who's a sure thing that can add to 881 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: what you have going on. Um to the left of 882 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: him with with with a big, big tyrant and you know, 883 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: to the right of him, which will be obviously, UM, 884 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: I just blanked out, Uh, what's our center? Be honest? 885 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: So be honest needs help. Be Honest needs that. I 886 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: don't think that we're gonna see a replacement of be honest. 887 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 1: I just think that they're gonna try to add somebody 888 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: that's gonna support him. Right if he has somebody, he 889 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: got a little limp to him right now, right, I 890 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: think he didn't need somebody to thank you very much. 891 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,439 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. You know what I'm saying. Now he'll 892 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: be stable. You know, it's kind of like this, kind 893 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: of like the old school table at the house that 894 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: you had to put a little he had to put 895 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: a little piece of paper underneath because of wobbly You know, 896 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: if you go to a restaurant and you gotta put 897 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: the little poldo, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, 898 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: here you go. We gotta fix our wobbly table. But 899 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,399 Speaker 1: now I'm gonna always see him as a wobbly table. 900 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: Thank you. 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Slash Cowboys to Talking Cowboys, 941 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: whether you're watching from home or cheering in the stands. 942 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,240 Speaker 1: With lenses, you'll see every exciting play book an appointment 943 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: at your local or expert, and find the perfect or 944 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 1: lens for you. See more, do more, or back on 945 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys. As you know, Isaiah slaps the mic from 946 00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: one side to another. I did not go as firm 947 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: as Will Smith. We've been slapping for about fifty minutes already, 948 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: and come on, let's just get it out of the way. 949 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 1: And was strong. It was a strong hand strong, very strong. 950 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,440 Speaker 1: Let's let's just get it out of the way, the 951 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: walk up, Let's ask this question and we can move on. 952 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: Who was more in the wrong, Chris Rock or Will Smith. 953 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: It was so embarrassing, period, I don't you know, it's 954 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 1: really hard for me to kind of place it and 955 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: pick aside. I just it's embarrassed. It's an embarrassment. It 956 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: wasn't embarrassed complete, you know, but his disregard for Chris 957 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:32,359 Speaker 1: Rock's face at that point the Batman followed through. Yeah, 958 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 1: but that's what could mean though, that is that's that's 959 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 1: Chris Rock. Chris. You assume that he knew she had that, Yes, 960 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 1: very much. That's fact. No fact, you don't know he did. 961 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 1: You know that the word is the word is he 962 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 1: didn't even write that. The writers wrote it. Oh he 963 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: got slapped for something somebody else. That's insultant Toffy's so 964 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: upset about it. Hey, but the technique was flawless. If 965 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,239 Speaker 1: you're gonna slap somebody, that is the proper way to 966 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: slap somebody. As I've seen that in the hood, grown up. 967 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 1: This is true. This is a thing that has happened 968 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: a lot. But here's the question, Pete. Has anyone ever 969 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: walked up and slapped you in your face? Um? Have 970 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 1: you ever been slapped in your life? Ra? Not slapped. 971 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 1: I've been mushed, not mushed. I've been boomed. Oh you 972 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: got a boot since we're on them, since we're on 973 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,919 Speaker 1: the super side, since we're on the super bad train. Here, 974 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 1: Oh beat somebody in the big mood. Boy, I need 975 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 1: to dump this. It's from Nick, it's mclovin. Now, it's 976 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: not mclovin, it's the other two guys. I mean, how 977 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: does that go? What do you do after that? I mean, 978 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 1: that's a loving thing. That's not that's not that's not fighting. No, 979 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 1: the boopy, but the boop might be more disrespectful than 980 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 1: the slap. Actually, one time I accidentally slapped the guy 981 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 1: playing basketball. It was an accidental slap. I went to 982 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: go upside the head, kind of like whoops upside a hit, Yeah, 983 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: kind of like Billy Hoyles style, you know, And I 984 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: went low and the guy just laughed at me. He 985 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 1: just laughed. I thought I was gonna get my kicked, 986 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: but he just laughed at me. I don't think I've 987 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 1: ever been slapped, so he didn't boop you no boop, 988 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: no boola boop is love he wow, have you been 989 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: have you been slapped? Man? Let me tell you you 990 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: somebody will need a doctor and I will need a lawyer. 991 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: Don't that's not that's not the business. That's not the business. 992 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: And I think, you know what, that's what I'm just saying, like, 993 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 1: that's I've been man, not that's I don't even I 994 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 1: don't even know. A finger in the face, a finger 995 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 1: in the face to get your finger dislocated. But you know, 996 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,800 Speaker 1: that's just one of those things where you slap somebody. 997 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 1: It's so disrespectful one to slap anybody. But we knew 998 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: he was a slapper. We need a slapper when he 999 00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 1: was on the red carpet and in the in the 1000 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 1: dude trying to kiss him. He slapped that guy and 1001 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: he slapped somebody and he slapped what's your name in hitch. 1002 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 1: He's a slapper. But I didn't know that. I go 1003 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 1: back and check that ou individual slapper the guy who 1004 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: kissed him in the mouth. He yeah, it was a 1005 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,680 Speaker 1: backhand slap. Yeah, it was like it was a backhand 1006 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: I mean that's the guy that you hey, that's you 1007 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 1: macloving too, right, there baby, because that's not a bo 1008 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I just look, man, I will say this 1009 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: and end it all, is that Chris Rock showed a 1010 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 1: lot of restraint by staying on code and still handing 1011 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,760 Speaker 1: out the award after that was last. That was impressive. 1012 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 1: You could tell, like right in the moment people thought 1013 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,439 Speaker 1: was this is this a joke until you could talking, 1014 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 1: But yeah, you could tell with his reaction like it wasn't. 1015 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 1: But we talked in the break like they gonna take 1016 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 1: his oscar away? Yea, they will? I man, I hope 1017 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 1: not they will. I mean it was gonna suck, but 1018 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: they will. They have to setting an example. And speaking 1019 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 1: of setting in example, we have a guy here in 1020 00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:01,440 Speaker 1: the building that has man an undertaking. He has with 1021 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 1: probably the biggest number on the team, wearing number eighty eight, 1022 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 1: and the pressure is right on him, especially now with 1023 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper being in Cleveland. You alluded you talked to it, 1024 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 1: talked about it as just saying that, look, the team 1025 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 1: was going to make this decision to move on from 1026 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 1: Cooper anyway to allow for Cede Lamb to have the 1027 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,839 Speaker 1: opportunity to be a number one receiver. But Isaiah, I've 1028 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 1: got to ask you and your observation of Sadarius Lamb 1029 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: and the job that he did and obviously his coming 1030 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: out this year being an eleven hundred yard receiver, do 1031 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 1: you think he is ready for the weight of being 1032 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 1: a number one receiver? No, picking my words wisely, I 1033 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 1: don't think that he's ready to be a number one. 1034 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if his confidence level is there yet, 1035 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,319 Speaker 1: not to say that he won't be there relatively soon, 1036 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:05,399 Speaker 1: but also don't believe that anyone anyone, and I don't 1037 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: think CD. I'tna say this now at this date, on 1038 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 1: this date as of right now, okay, but tonight it 1039 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,839 Speaker 1: was twenty nine, right. Yes, I don't think that there 1040 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: will be a number one receiver that will sign a 1041 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:25,839 Speaker 1: big contract here in Dallas with this leadership. Reason being, 1042 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: they just prove to you what they do with number 1043 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:33,200 Speaker 1: one receivers. Number one receivers don't have value here. Number 1044 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: one receivers don't have any rain here because we're not 1045 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: gonna feed you like a number one, We're not gonna 1046 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: feature you like a number one. They just showed you 1047 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: that there was no conversation about Coop's inabilities at any 1048 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 1: point in time. There's been no discussion about what Coop 1049 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,400 Speaker 1: can't do. Coop can't run routes. He does amazing job 1050 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 1: with routes. Coop lost a step, He definitely didn't lose 1051 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,920 Speaker 1: a step. Coop can't get off the ball. He definitely 1052 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,360 Speaker 1: gets off the ball. Is he dropping balls? Nope, he 1053 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 1: caught the ball. So oh, isn't that what number ones do? 1054 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: So if you're a number one, that's what Coop was 1055 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: a true number one. They just got rid of you, right, 1056 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: So now what's the incentive now for anybody to honestly 1057 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: be titled a true number one. I think he's gonna 1058 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,359 Speaker 1: be a highly valuable player for the Dallas Cowboys. He's 1059 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 1: gonna be somebody that's very dependable, somebody that they're they're 1060 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,600 Speaker 1: relying on heavily. But to say that he's a number one, 1061 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,319 Speaker 1: then at that point in time, I had to put 1062 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:27,840 Speaker 1: him in a context of a Tyrek Hill on a 1063 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: Davante Adams back, And I don't think he's that. You 1064 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 1: don't think he's think he can get there. I think 1065 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 1: with his physical skill set, I think he can just 1066 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 1: not here because of the way they run off that. Yes, 1067 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: do you think they'd be willing because they got to 1068 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 1: take out. I mean, Mike's here, he's working. Do you 1069 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,800 Speaker 1: think they're taking a hard look at this potentially and 1070 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,839 Speaker 1: being like, we have to change what we do schematically. 1071 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: Schematically we feature receivers, and like I spoke earlier, okay, 1072 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 1: we're not gonna pay both guys. We think CD can 1073 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 1: be that guy. That's why we're making this transition away 1074 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: from a MARI. But we need to in the future. 1075 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: If we think CD can be that guy, we have 1076 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 1: to feature him more that When I see as of 1077 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 1: right now, CD's really good receiver, okay, but when I 1078 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,880 Speaker 1: think about number one receivers, you have to do something 1079 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: exceptionally well, you have to be exceptionally fast Tyreek Hill, 1080 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 1: you have to be exceptionally quick Tyreek Hill, renfro Right 1081 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 1: or route runners. Okay, you start talking about you know, 1082 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 1: the Cooper cups at these world where he's just exceptional 1083 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 1: route runners rather or not. They don't have any other amazing, 1084 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: crazy attributes, but they're gonna run a heck of a 1085 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 1: route and they're gonna catch the ball. Yeah, the guys 1086 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 1: like this, right, there's not one attribute that CD currently 1087 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 1: possesses that is that dominant. Now collectively, he's a really 1088 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,600 Speaker 1: good receiver. He's not gonna blaze by anybody off the 1089 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 1: line of scribbage. He doesn't happen to just he's not 1090 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: just an amazing route runner at this point in time. 1091 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 1: He's a good route runner, He's not an amazing route runner, right, 1092 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 1: he doesn't. He hasn't caught the ball consistently. Right, so 1093 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 1: you start looking at the attributes of a number one receiver. 1094 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: He hasn't put that together yet, and I think that 1095 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,200 Speaker 1: he will relatively quickly. He's going to figure it out. 1096 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,800 Speaker 1: But again, I'm not sure if that's going to be 1097 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: the opportunity here in Dallas, just because of what they're 1098 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:09,000 Speaker 1: telling you right now. We're a system team. You know. 1099 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 1: It's hard for me to wrap my head around, is 1100 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 1: what you're saying about him not being here or not 1101 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: getting paid here. When Amari Cooper got paid here, he 1102 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,480 Speaker 1: paid he signed a large contract, and obviously the door 1103 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: opened up just for Ceedee Lamb to get signed and 1104 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's why receiver room is crowded. 1105 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 1: I guess where I'm coming from from a scheme standpoint, 1106 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 1: with the way that Kelly Moore is calling this offense, 1107 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 1: and there won't be an opportunity now for teams to say, 1108 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna bracket coverage on one of your guys. How 1109 00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 1: does that open up the offense now? Being that you look, 1110 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,480 Speaker 1: Mike g may not be back for the beginning of 1111 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,960 Speaker 1: the season, but Lissa to say, hypothetically he is, you 1112 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 1: have James Washington, and you have a draft pick and 1113 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: other guys that will be there as well. You don't 1114 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 1: think that he can carry the weight in a scheme 1115 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 1: where it's not even calling for him to be quote 1116 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 1: unquote that lead. Do ask you guys this, and I'm 1117 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 1: you guys know I'm a straight shooter, straight and no change. Yeah. 1118 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: Do you guys think that you have the double team 1119 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 1: CD lamb right now? No? No, I mean it hasn't 1120 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 1: been proven like like a Marie, although Marie didn't get 1121 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: a ton of double team which is why it is 1122 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,800 Speaker 1: why the production was surprising if they would have threw 1123 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 1: him the ball. Yeah, you better double team a Marie Cooper, right, 1124 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, you better freaking double team him. Davantae Adams, 1125 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 1: you better double team all the number ones. You better 1126 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 1: double team him, otherwise they will single handedly recue. CD 1127 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: hasn't stepped into that circle yet yet. And I know, 1128 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: I know it's just training camp. And I know I've 1129 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 1: told myself personally, like don't overreact everything you see a 1130 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 1: training camp, but I just know, you know, thirty days 1131 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: in ox and are just watching him every day, it 1132 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 1: was like, man, this guy could be a yeah, he 1133 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 1: can't be. And and it hasn't shown. Although these numbers, 1134 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: and I know they're just numbers, but they do jump 1135 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 1: out at you. I didn't realize this is from Mickey's column. 1136 00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty three catches in his first two 1137 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 1: years or a franchise most. And he's the first Cowboys 1138 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 1: receiver to get at least a thousand in each of 1139 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,640 Speaker 1: his first two seasons. I mean, he's put up numbers. 1140 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,440 Speaker 1: It's just there's consistency. He's had some drops and he 1141 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: hasn't been asked to He hasn't been asked to be 1142 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: the guy corect yet. So but now that the opportunities 1143 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,920 Speaker 1: that he has had to be the number one guy, 1144 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: we didn't see the weird there's a couple opportunities this 1145 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 1: year where we're like, all right, this is this is 1146 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 1: it and then and all of that, all of that 1147 00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: I think has been overshadow, overshadowed by how they have 1148 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 1: used these guys in concert with one another. But the 1149 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 1: numbers don't lie based off of what you're saying. And 1150 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,480 Speaker 1: this is a franchise that's been a hunt raund for 1151 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 1: a very long time. For him to set those first 1152 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 1: says a lot about his talent. You asked me the 1153 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 1: question about him being double team and I say no, because, 1154 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:51,360 Speaker 1: like Rob said, I just hadn't seen it yet. But 1155 00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 1: in the game, like they say, for instance, in the 1156 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: Patriots game, the overtime, the walkoff touchdown, you see right there. 1157 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,160 Speaker 1: I mean he's by himself. There are your route brand 1158 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 1: and touchdown we saw in his in his rookie season. 1159 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 1: When you use him at the slot position. What he's 1160 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: able to do. Slot position is one where, man, this 1161 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 1: is a guy that can expose your defense if you 1162 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 1: put him in the slot. Do you think that that's 1163 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: where Kelly Moore is putting his attention? If if there is, 1164 01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 1: If you're gonna use this guy to his full potential, 1165 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 1: that's where it has to That's the question. Will Cede 1166 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 1: Lamb reach his full potential here in Dallas and currently 1167 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 1: under this regime. Because I know everybody's gonna sit out. 1168 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 1: THEAH said CD can't. I didn't say that. I'm saying 1169 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,280 Speaker 1: where he's not yet, all right, I say I can 1170 01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,360 Speaker 1: see CD is fully capable as a player to be 1171 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 1: a number one receiver in this league. Absolutely within this system, 1172 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,919 Speaker 1: he's he's restricted. If you're Kellen Moore, are you saying 1173 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,640 Speaker 1: to yourself it's time to change? I hope so? Yeah, Okay, 1174 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,680 Speaker 1: I hope so, because imminently that's where the rubber meets road, 1175 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,920 Speaker 1: is in him changing his philosophy on how he uses it. 1176 01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,919 Speaker 1: But if you, if you, if you're willing to change 1177 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 1: your philosophy, didn't why you let who go? You don't say? 1178 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,520 Speaker 1: Because I think so, I'm saying, like I think, well 1179 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 1: that was that was my kind of hypothetical or whatever. 1180 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,760 Speaker 1: Devil's advocate is that can we just if we're just 1181 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 1: gonna pay one, let's go with the younger guy, our 1182 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,400 Speaker 1: draft pick, and but moving forward, we need to change 1183 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,280 Speaker 1: how we do things. And he's got to be featured, 1184 01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,200 Speaker 1: because I don't I don't think you can run it 1185 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 1: back the way they did it and just kind of 1186 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 1: try to spread it around and work underneath with Scholtzi. 1187 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 1: And that's gonna get it done. I mean, especially if 1188 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 1: you can't run the ball um. I don't think that 1189 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 1: they've got to They've got to find a way to 1190 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 1: feature the top guy bar. I'm with you guys on 1191 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 1: that one. Well look, speaking of that, I mean and 1192 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 1: closing this whole thing out, guys, this is going to 1193 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,080 Speaker 1: be the first time that we go to Oxnard where 1194 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 1: our offensive line isn't the strength of our team and 1195 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 1: so talk about news flash and so much work to do. 1196 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: There are still gaping holes left to be filled for 1197 01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys as the offseason rages on. We'll be 1198 01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 1: back in the building next Tuesday, and Kyle Yeoman's this 1199 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 1: will be your spotty. We'll be waiting for you, brother. 1200 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 1: So Lorena's family, please don't put him in the Hudson 1201 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 1: all right, but we did our think today Balling tct baby. 1202 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1203 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.