Speaker 1: The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the
Speaker 1: Star in FRISCOO and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck
Speaker 1: My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's for just the
Speaker 1: fourth time in twenty twenty, the Dallas Cowboys get to
Speaker 1: celebrate a victory Monday. And that's exactly what we're gonna
Speaker 1: do here on Talking Cowboys as Dallas goes up to
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and takes down the Bengals thirty to seven, the
Speaker 1: final score and what was most arguably the most dominant
Speaker 1: game from the Cowboys defense this season. They forced three turnovers,
Speaker 1: all of which in the first half, and they take
Speaker 1: advantage and hey, how about Alden Smith. Alden Smith a
Speaker 1: bit of a fifth or excuse me, a seventy eight
Speaker 1: yard touchdown return on the scoop and score probably my
Speaker 1: favorite moment of the twenty twenty season. But we're gonna
Speaker 1: break it down for you, and we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: everything that happened in that Sinci game and how it
Speaker 1: relates to the twenty twenty Cowboys season, maybe even the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one Cowboys season. As we're here inside the
Speaker 1: virtual SWBC Mortgage Studios streaming live from the Star in Friscos,
Speaker 1: Chris being doing great work in the back of Kyle
Speaker 1: Yeoman's with you, Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back, and then
Speaker 1: Heck Mahrrison officially now a pro and college football so
Speaker 1: we have something to celebrate here as Heck Maharrison made
Speaker 1: his ESPN college debut, but now he's back on the
Speaker 1: pro football side of things. But you also, sir, might
Speaker 1: have won a Christmas tree. I hear, I think a
Speaker 1: Christmas tree is on the way to your house, right, Isaiah, Yes,
Speaker 1: I am a man of my word. I did put out.
Speaker 1: I came at Heckma. I came at Heckma with a bet.
Speaker 1: Um it was. I said it with my chest, and
Speaker 1: it was in the greatest of interest for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: because should my bet have come true, we were definitely
Speaker 1: um do a win. But we still got the win
Speaker 1: even without me winning my bet, which is really the
Speaker 1: ultimate win because everybody wins that right. But Heckma, as
Speaker 1: soon as the game was over and he dont did
Speaker 1: not throw for three hundred yards. He did not throw
Speaker 1: three touchdowns. So you did? You did, sir win that
Speaker 1: bet and the tree has been ordered and it will
Speaker 1: be on your doorstep within days. You know what they say, Well,
Speaker 1: the millennials say this don't come from me unless I
Speaker 1: send for you. But I appreciate the tree, don't do
Speaker 1: the millennials really say that? But I think so so so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but yeah, congratulations Hekma owner
Speaker 1: of a new tree. Just so for those of you
Speaker 1: who may not have listened on Thursday or Friday, the
Speaker 1: bet was that if Andy Dalton threw for three hundred
Speaker 1: yards and three touchdowns that Isaiah would upgrade upgrade, Uh,
Speaker 1: heckmas tree in the background. Hackma's working with this tree.
Speaker 1: Well that's what I get for listening to Beyonce. Heckma's
Speaker 1: tree is being upgraded in Isaiah. What were the words
Speaker 1: you told me whenever I asked you how big the
Speaker 1: tree was yesterday? Said it won't fit in his area. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got to figure that out. Tree from the damn
Speaker 1: Christmas vacations. You got to figure it out. Window, He's
Speaker 1: got to figure it out. He bought the tree up
Speaker 1: at the up at the what's it called thirty Rock
Speaker 1: and Sware up in Dallas. I really did it just
Speaker 1: so his wife to side I am. That's that's really
Speaker 1: why I did it. His wife the side I am
Speaker 1: when it shows up to the door, like really hanckling
Speaker 1: with the hey and you know, and you know that's
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. So I appreciate that as well. No,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot of fun hooking that tree up.
Speaker 1: But Rob the Cowboys get the thirty to seven win
Speaker 1: yesterday against the Bengals. Was this the best defensive outing
Speaker 1: of the season? First of all, I just want to
Speaker 1: say I was a little nervous getting on with you
Speaker 1: guys today. Kyle heckma ESPN fame Like, no, right, me
Speaker 1: and I they are gonna be watching you guys are
Speaker 1: like on a sports centered commercial one day and be
Speaker 1: like remember when remember when we knew? Hey, I'm just
Speaker 1: happy that. I'm just happy that as of right now,
Speaker 1: they're still responding to our text messages, you know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, Yeah, they graced us with their presence. Best
Speaker 1: defensive performance of the season, yeah, probably probably. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: they they forced fumbles on the first three possessions of
Speaker 1: a game for the first time in twenty five years,
Speaker 1: So like that's that's a big deal. Did they leak
Speaker 1: some yardage, Yeah, they did. It would have been interesting
Speaker 1: to see what Cincinnati would have done in the first
Speaker 1: half with their running game with Geoe Bernard if they
Speaker 1: hadn't turned the ball over every time. But look, they
Speaker 1: came out and did what they had to do. They
Speaker 1: got ripped all week long for not showing effort at
Speaker 1: the end of that game against the Ravens with the
Speaker 1: easy money drive by Baltimore, and they came out and
Speaker 1: they showed they showed effort. They got the offense the
Speaker 1: ball back, which hasn't happened much this season, and they
Speaker 1: they kind of silenced some people for a couple of
Speaker 1: days anyway, despite an opponent that clearly is like we
Speaker 1: figure out the tiers, right, we're figuring out the tiers.
Speaker 1: You got the Jets, you got the Bengals. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: are not in that tier. They're they're not having a
Speaker 1: good season by any stretch, but they're above that. And
Speaker 1: they showed that kind of like Isaiah said, this is
Speaker 1: this is gonna be one of those battle royale games
Speaker 1: where like, when it's two teams that are struggling, one
Speaker 1: team's probably gonna probably gonna smack down the other one.
Speaker 1: And that's what happened. Look, let me let me just
Speaker 1: say this that the Cincinnati Bengals they out Cowboy the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in their first three drive. That was you know,
Speaker 1: those three turnovers is something that we had done previously.
Speaker 1: It's just I mean, not the three turnovers, but just
Speaker 1: it just seemed like nothing could get going for that offense.
Speaker 1: But you're right, College did start to look good for
Speaker 1: our defense, especially when you get Alton Smith running back
Speaker 1: fumble for seventy eight yards. I mean, that's just a
Speaker 1: kind of energy that your defense that has just been
Speaker 1: getting beat up all year long. That's that's something to
Speaker 1: celebrate for those guys. But when you look at the numbers,
Speaker 1: and I was looking at a treat a tweet from
Speaker 1: Rob He's like, look, these guys are on pace. Cincinnati
Speaker 1: was at one point to have a four hundred yard
Speaker 1: outing and so there's still some things in our offense
Speaker 1: that I believe all of you guys would would agree
Speaker 1: that we need to fix, especially you know, some of
Speaker 1: those drops by te Higgins. I mean, he was wide
Speaker 1: open and hit him and he just he couldn't catch it.
Speaker 1: So but this is a great victory no matter how
Speaker 1: you look at it. I'm sure that defense they're they're
Speaker 1: celebrating it as well. Yeah, I mean this was this
Speaker 1: was a huge, huge opportunity for these guys, and they
Speaker 1: took advantage of it. They went out there and they
Speaker 1: brought the energy. Uh they they tackled well for at
Speaker 1: least a little bit, um and they came in. They
Speaker 1: were hidden, they were flying around and hidden. I know
Speaker 1: everybody was worried because Wilson are are designated hitter now
Speaker 1: and least in the football term. Uh, he was out.
Speaker 1: He was out. He wasn't in the game for us
Speaker 1: this week. So I think we were I need to,
Speaker 1: I know, at least for myself, I was worried whether
Speaker 1: or how physical we were going to be out that
Speaker 1: side of the ball. But everybody came out um swinging,
Speaker 1: and you know, luckily we punched the ball out a
Speaker 1: few times. So luckily somebody the office a linements but
Speaker 1: punched the ball out another time, and um, you know
Speaker 1: we had Alton Smith picked up the ball and he
Speaker 1: worked on this. Lamar's breathing. You know he was out there,
Speaker 1: you know, gassed that thing all the way down there.
Speaker 1: So you know that wasn't the change of the game
Speaker 1: obviously early on, and he gave us an opportunity to
Speaker 1: get ahead and stay ahead. Well, and you one of
Speaker 1: the other big storylines, Isaiah and you kind of talked
Speaker 1: about it yesterday on pre impost game show, but it
Speaker 1: was Andy Dalton making his return to Cincinnati, and it
Speaker 1: really didn't seem like he had an opportunity to actually
Speaker 1: kind of show out. I mean, he managed the game,
Speaker 1: that's all he's really needed to do in a game
Speaker 1: like that, but he didn't have the opportunity for the
Speaker 1: big play, didn't put up some incredible numbers, but he
Speaker 1: just did the right things along the way. What did
Speaker 1: you think about Dalton's performance and kind of what he
Speaker 1: brought to the table as he returned up to Paul
Speaker 1: Brown Stadium. Yeah, he was balling. I know he didn't
Speaker 1: hit the three hundred yards and three touchdowns like I
Speaker 1: had bet Heckman, but I think he was on he
Speaker 1: was on pace for that. I think he had. They
Speaker 1: had more opportunities had they not had the lead that
Speaker 1: they had. You know, they try to run the ball
Speaker 1: a lot more obviously to try to run a clock out.
Speaker 1: But I mean he was throwing the ball on the money.
Speaker 1: There is balls. I'm not sure how much people pay
Speaker 1: attention to a ball placement, but that's really the different
Speaker 1: the differentiator between good quarterbacks and great quarterbacks. And he
Speaker 1: was putting his ball on the money to touchdown the
Speaker 1: touchdown pass down here in the red zone. He put
Speaker 1: the ball down low, lowing away, so that if it
Speaker 1: wasn't if it wasn't a touchdown, it was gonna be incomplete.
Speaker 1: How there's a lot of other balls that he put
Speaker 1: over over a linebackers, over a secondary guys. Um. He
Speaker 1: was just dropping dimes left or right, and you could
Speaker 1: see he was focused. But you saw he was focused
Speaker 1: last week. I mean, he just made all the right
Speaker 1: decisions this week for this WN and you could tell
Speaker 1: how important it was to him, especially if we started
Speaker 1: giving your wife shoutouts in the middle of the game,
Speaker 1: you know, you know you're feeling good. Oh, he wanted
Speaker 1: he wanted that one. And apparently after the game, uh,
Speaker 1: teammates and coaches knew he wanted it too. He didn't
Speaker 1: make it about himself during the week, but they gave
Speaker 1: him a water douse. Uh. In the locker room after
Speaker 1: the game, they gave him the game ball and yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know, obviously that was an emotional moment signaling
Speaker 1: to his wife Jordan. Uh. They you know, they were
Speaker 1: a big part of that Cincinnati community, so it had
Speaker 1: to be weird for them going back as the as
Speaker 1: the opponent. But but Isaiah, you know that that's uh
Speaker 1: fifteen play, eighty eight yard drive that they had for
Speaker 1: a touchdown in the second quarter. That's that's Andy Dalton's
Speaker 1: US drive. I think as a cowboy, and I think
Speaker 1: he hit hit five different receivers on that drive. And
Speaker 1: we found out pretty quickly that that Cincinnati really couldn't
Speaker 1: cover Mary Cooper in this game and really not Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb either working from the slot and uh yeah, their
Speaker 1: their connection. You almost have to qualify this game a
Speaker 1: little bit, or some people will because Cincinnati is a
Speaker 1: is a bad football team. But they came out and
Speaker 1: did what they were supposed to do. It was a
Speaker 1: good performance by the offense. ACMA. Now, I just I
Speaker 1: felt good about the performance. I felt like Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: was poised. I really felt good about what philbin Moore
Speaker 1: and coach Mike McCarthy did. As far as setting up protection.
Speaker 1: You saw them play a lot of cover twelve you know,
Speaker 1: uh twelve personnel also just you know, putting those tight
Speaker 1: ends on the same side of the ball, also showing
Speaker 1: up you know, the running game, and just continuing to
Speaker 1: move the sticks and drives. I really appreciate it, uh
Speaker 1: Zeke and his you know, the his ability to continue
Speaker 1: to move the change as well. I thought they did
Speaker 1: a really good job of bringing in Tony Pollock with it.
Speaker 1: I know there were some questions about, you know, Zeke
Speaker 1: coming in health wise, but he did his best and
Speaker 1: I think that they saved him by incorporating polo, which
Speaker 1: had he had a few gash runs in there also.
Speaker 1: But you're right, mean he was just serving it around
Speaker 1: to all of his receivers except for that one big
Speaker 1: miss h to Amari Cooper, and they paid to the sideline.
Speaker 1: And you could tell both of them when they had
Speaker 1: those mac the pros whatever they're holding and just like
Speaker 1: a soft surface but the surface yeah, and they just said, look,
Speaker 1: he missed me right there, because that was a sluggo
Speaker 1: that was wide open and that could have been the
Speaker 1: cherry on top for Andy Dalton, But either way, I'm
Speaker 1: sure he'll take the victory. The way it was, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can really tell. I mean, the way that he
Speaker 1: ran out of the tunnel, the way that the crowd
Speaker 1: kind of responded, the way the team responded. I think
Speaker 1: all of those phases were around fourteen yesterday. And that's
Speaker 1: a lot. I mean for a quarterback who had been
Speaker 1: there for so long, and it'd been in Cincinnati for
Speaker 1: so long, and then coming back there as a backup
Speaker 1: that's now the starter. I mean, it's been a crazy
Speaker 1: year for everybody, but it certainly has been one for
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton and his family. So that was a lot
Speaker 1: of fun to watch him get that win yesterday. And
Speaker 1: I know there's there's a split between Cowboys Nation right now.
Speaker 1: There's a split almost fifty fifty of Hey, let's win,
Speaker 1: let's build a culture, let's try and stay in the
Speaker 1: division race. Now we'll talk about the division later on
Speaker 1: and maybe out of reach at this point. But there's
Speaker 1: the other half that wants the tank for draft picks
Speaker 1: and team tank and let's stay with the number three
Speaker 1: overall pick, and that's now not in the picture anymore.
Speaker 1: But with all of that being said, Rob Why was
Speaker 1: this a win that was a positive thing for the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: Why was it good that they went out and got
Speaker 1: the w? I mean, imagine if they'd lost this game.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I mean, think about the think
Speaker 1: about the alternate to it, right, Like, I mean, I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people are Look, it was an
Speaker 1: interesting week. They got their effort questioned by a lot
Speaker 1: of people. The head coach brought up in the press
Speaker 1: conference the finish need to be better in games, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and Jerry Jones is on the fan on
Speaker 1: Friday talking about, like I wish I had to do
Speaker 1: over defensively in terms of not being so aggressive with
Speaker 1: the scheme. With no off season, you know, there was
Speaker 1: a lot hovering around this team. So it's fun to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know we lost that we're going to have a
Speaker 1: higher draft pick. But it's also could you imagine how
Speaker 1: miserable this week would be if they lost to the Bengals,
Speaker 1: who were ten or two win team that really had
Speaker 1: nothing going for themselves. Like, you know, that's the thing
Speaker 1: about it with fans, it's like, and I keep saying this,
Speaker 1: it's just you you want it one way, but if
Speaker 1: it's the other way, you're not happy either. So I
Speaker 1: think this team, after everything they have been through emotionally
Speaker 1: too recently with Marcus Paul passing away, they needed something
Speaker 1: to feel good about. I know, the draft's important. You
Speaker 1: know what, by the end of this thing, they're going
Speaker 1: to have a high draft pick, you know, unless they
Speaker 1: went out and somehow win this division. So you know,
Speaker 1: they needed something to feel good about, and they got it,
Speaker 1: you know, for a couple of days here Teche, I
Speaker 1: don't we're at the point where we're questioning wins. You know,
Speaker 1: you yeah, I mean it, he said. Herman was saying,
Speaker 1: you play the game to win. Hello, you know, like
Speaker 1: you go out there, you do it, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's just like h for this whole you know, sect
Speaker 1: that believes that this team should just purposely go out
Speaker 1: to try and lose games. That's just not the reality
Speaker 1: of the sport that we play. I know, looking at Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: I started to question them yesterday about it they were
Speaker 1: organically taken or not? Uh with those fumbles in the
Speaker 1: first one. I mean, you can't make you can't make
Speaker 1: this stuff up, right, But it's just you know, to me,
Speaker 1: I felt, as far as the defense was concerned, they
Speaker 1: needed that. Our offensive line that's been obviously you've just
Speaker 1: been journal they've been decimated by offense, by by injuries.
Speaker 1: They play well together. I mean, although they gave up
Speaker 1: two sacks yesterday, you could tell that they were those
Speaker 1: Max protective and a lot of things that they were
Speaker 1: doing to keep Andy Dalton upright were working for this
Speaker 1: offensive line, I mean, and again defensively, our defensive line
Speaker 1: with Tank Lawrence, I believe that he was the one
Speaker 1: that set the tone for the whole game just with
Speaker 1: the energy that he brought. He played differently, you know,
Speaker 1: he just played a different game, and he was sound,
Speaker 1: fundamentally sound, doing all the things that you have to
Speaker 1: do to play winning football. And defensive they look, man,
Speaker 1: they showed up a lot of the things that we
Speaker 1: had saw that they were doing wrong. In the running game.
Speaker 1: Although they were giving up some yardage, they were not
Speaker 1: giving up those big chunk plays like we had seen
Speaker 1: them do in Baltimore. Right. And so although when the
Speaker 1: one big chunk of I guess it was a touchdown
Speaker 1: in the third quarter, I believe it was, it was
Speaker 1: negated by a holding penalty, Thank god. On Jaylen Smith
Speaker 1: was still I think I felt good about about the
Speaker 1: defense and my man Antoine Woods, Mister, I will I
Speaker 1: will dive on any pile number ninety Randy Savage off
Speaker 1: the top rope, baby, love it. You can't make this
Speaker 1: stuff up. Man, It's just twenty twenty. In the nutshell,
Speaker 1: it's him Antoine Woods diving on the pile. Bro that
Speaker 1: was that was so funny that Brian Doctors right there
Speaker 1: another Brian Doctors shot out weaponicks. He actually retweeted me
Speaker 1: last night. I think I mentioned that like off the
Speaker 1: top rope, and he can gave me a Randy macho
Speaker 1: man Savage gift last night he enjoyed himself. That was good, Yes,
Speaker 1: he did. It's good, Isaiah. What do you think about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys scenario here? I mean for the people that
Speaker 1: are out there hoping that we lose so that we
Speaker 1: can have a higher draft. Pick y'all can miss me
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys for that matter. Um, there's there's no
Speaker 1: there's no true competitor that losing on purpose ever crosses
Speaker 1: their mind, just not a not an even a part
Speaker 1: of it. So if that's in your mind frame, if
Speaker 1: that's okay with you taking um losing on purpose, UM
Speaker 1: losing for position all games going out of hand, we
Speaker 1: might as well shut it down. If that's even in
Speaker 1: your blood at all. You're not a competitor. I'll call
Speaker 1: you out directly. You are not a competitor. And that's it.
Speaker 1: You're you know, you're not even in the same conversation.
Speaker 1: So for everybody else, Um, you go out there, you
Speaker 1: bust your butt, you give it all that you have.
Speaker 1: I mean, you hope that your best is enough. And
Speaker 1: that's what you do every single day, every single week.
Speaker 1: Whether you're showing up for practice, whether you're showing up
Speaker 1: for film, whether you're showing up for the weight room.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Every time that you have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to give a give your one hundred percent effort, that's
Speaker 1: what you do. I mean, when you step on the
Speaker 1: game field, you hope that it's enough to get you wins.
Speaker 1: And it was enough this week. So uh, shots out,
Speaker 1: you know how, Hats off to the Cowboys and hopefully
Speaker 1: they can win this thing out. Kyle. It really is
Speaker 1: a it's a fan dilemma. It's not a team dilemma.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's something fans struggle with, you know, Like
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a lifelong Mavericks fan. Okay, And there
Speaker 1: are a couple of years ago where they were bad
Speaker 1: and I'm pulling for him, But after they win a
Speaker 1: game they shouldn't win, I'm thinking that was that good.
Speaker 1: They can't. They can't. Maybe they don't. Maybe maybe they
Speaker 1: don't get Luca now and they wound up with him
Speaker 1: or whoever. You know, But it's a it's a fandol emma,
Speaker 1: like like Isaiah said, you know, and I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: watching this game yesterday and they're down to they're like
Speaker 1: their fifth and six quarterbacks, cornerbacks of the season. I
Speaker 1: think it was Deontay Burton, Savian Smith or Shot Robinson
Speaker 1: out there, and I'm thinking tank this man, Like are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Like they were having to go so
Speaker 1: deep in the bag because of injuries this year. Um,
Speaker 1: it's just not a reality, not to mention. Like from
Speaker 1: a player's perspective, there's a lot of guys that are
Speaker 1: coming up to be free agents. They're trying to play
Speaker 1: as best as they can, put the best tape on.
Speaker 1: They can't regardless of team goals. That's number one, but
Speaker 1: that that's you know, for their career as well. It's
Speaker 1: just a it's just it's fun to talk about, but
Speaker 1: it's not a reality for for NFL football teams. And actually,
Speaker 1: you know, Mike McCarthy reference after the game that he
Speaker 1: really thought his first year in Green Bay, the way
Speaker 1: they finished it carried them to you know, over into
Speaker 1: the off season next year and they built on it. Isaiah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's something you've experienced, but you know,
Speaker 1: because it's months down the road, but that's what he
Speaker 1: thinks it can do for a team if they played black,
Speaker 1: complimentary football like this and actually play well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean absolutely, and you you mentioned it, and I'm you
Speaker 1: guys know, I'm pretty dog on black and white. Everybody
Speaker 1: says there's no I in team that is b to
Speaker 1: the s. There's always there's an eye before team because
Speaker 1: without EI, there is no team. So so um, guys
Speaker 1: are out there playing for their resume. Guys, you have
Speaker 1: so many years to get to this level. You spend heck,
Speaker 1: how old were you when you start playing football? Seven
Speaker 1: seven years old? So you spend you know, from from
Speaker 1: about fourteen years right, fourteen years of your life for
Speaker 1: a career that might last anywhere from hopefully a year
Speaker 1: to fifteen years on the top end for some of
Speaker 1: these guys right to p your position. So you're spending
Speaker 1: fourteen years for an opportunity to play you know, called
Speaker 1: it five years, called it five years, right, So you
Speaker 1: think these guys are really concerned about the team. First,
Speaker 1: let's be real, it doesn't sound good whatever, This is
Speaker 1: the truth. So when you guys are talking about going
Speaker 1: out and taking you're asking these guys to go out
Speaker 1: there and pretty much just just wipe mud all over
Speaker 1: their resume. No, they're not gonna do that. Guys are
Speaker 1: gonna go out there and play their buds off because
Speaker 1: they want the next opportunity, whether the opportunity comes in
Speaker 1: the form of a contract extension or whether it comes
Speaker 1: in the form of another opportunity with another team. No
Speaker 1: matter what, what you put on film is your resume,
Speaker 1: that is your that's your calling card. So that comes first.
Speaker 1: And while while I'm taking care of myself, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm also a part of this bigger picture, which is
Speaker 1: a team. And when we all do that collectively, we
Speaker 1: go out there, we put out good performances. So when
Speaker 1: you talk about you know what coach McCarthy's talking about, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wants to go out there and these guys that
Speaker 1: play well because now he has an idea. What am
Speaker 1: I looking at for next year? Do I want to
Speaker 1: keep this guy? Does he work hard? Is he taking
Speaker 1: is he is he loafing on plays? On plays or
Speaker 1: even I know he can't even get to the play
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods. Is he still giving one hundred percent effort? Right?
Speaker 1: So those are the things that everybody is watching. And
Speaker 1: when you go to camp, they're watching everything you do.
Speaker 1: They're watching who you're conversing with, They're watching who you're
Speaker 1: having lunch with. They're watching how hard you watch film?
Speaker 1: Are you taking notes when you're in the meeting room?
Speaker 1: Are your eyes heavy? Right? Are you all these things?
Speaker 1: Everything is monitored. So yes, they want to go out
Speaker 1: there and they want to take care of business. And
Speaker 1: if you're not doing that, you're probably not gonna be
Speaker 1: around next year. And if there is a silver lining
Speaker 1: to all this this season, the injuries, it's that Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy has gotten a look at guys that maybe played
Speaker 1: that much if not for injury. I think if fans,
Speaker 1: I don't know, if fans aren't asking them to try
Speaker 1: to lose games, I think they're t it's a you know,
Speaker 1: let's look at all the young guys we possibly can. Well,
Speaker 1: for the most part, they're already doing that. There's only
Speaker 1: a few guys, haven't you know. It's it's ronde I know,
Speaker 1: it's Bradley and I Rondell Carter up until yesterday being active,
Speaker 1: Reggie Robinson, Francis Bernard, and that's that's really about it.
Speaker 1: Now there's fans that may want to Nuchi to play
Speaker 1: quarterback because olet's get you know whatever, what is what
Speaker 1: is Reggie Robinson? What has to happen in order for
Speaker 1: him to be on the field on defense for a
Speaker 1: sentient period of time, Like, honestly, does this Does I
Speaker 1: have to go put a helmet on first or a
Speaker 1: white But no, no, let's let's let's let's keep me real.
Speaker 1: You know, there's I feel like, you know, obviously there's
Speaker 1: something going on with Reggie Robinson not to have been
Speaker 1: on on defense because I see guys, I see guys,
Speaker 1: I see guys that I'm saying, Okay, well, we couldn't
Speaker 1: have got that from Reggie Robinson. You know that that
Speaker 1: that effort. But again, I'm gonna stay out of that
Speaker 1: part because I know that that's the coaches making the evaluation.
Speaker 1: But I gotta but I gotta ask you guys something,
Speaker 1: and Isaiah, I'll ask you this right all right there,
Speaker 1: there seems to have been something that changed through the weekend.
Speaker 1: I know, we don't get an opportunity to watch practice,
Speaker 1: you know, but this team was a little bit different.
Speaker 1: They played with it, and granted they played the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about from an energy level, from a
Speaker 1: personnel level, from just a scheme, from the way that
Speaker 1: they you know, went out there and the energy that
Speaker 1: they showed. It seemed to me like this was a
Speaker 1: team that had a good week of practice. There were
Speaker 1: some things that may have changed with a defensive line.
Speaker 1: They may have went to half line drills, inside drills.
Speaker 1: Something changed because I saw that these guys just played
Speaker 1: a lot faster in the scheme. You know what. Heck,
Speaker 1: that's a great point. I hope, you know, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: I hope I hope that they that they did have
Speaker 1: a great week of practice. I hope that that they
Speaker 1: had some meetings around the effort thing and that they
Speaker 1: came together and decided that they're gonna go out there
Speaker 1: and give it everything right and go balls to the wall.
Speaker 1: That's my hope. Also, my hope is that they didn't
Speaker 1: identify the Cincinnati as a lesser opponent and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you get the kind of the big dog
Speaker 1: on the playground role, right. It's like, oh yeah, every
Speaker 1: now I'm the big dog. I've been getting bullied, but
Speaker 1: now I'm a bully you. I hope that's not the
Speaker 1: tell you. You You know, after, you know, the day before
Speaker 1: the game, I want to go watch my daughter play
Speaker 1: in a tournament soccer tournament and they, you know, they
Speaker 1: got their butts kicked by one team that they placed
Speaker 1: in the past, that was a pretty tough team. And
Speaker 1: then they came back later on that night and they
Speaker 1: played a team that was that they've played before and
Speaker 1: that they beat before, and they knew it was a
Speaker 1: lesser opponent, and all of a sudden, who did it go?
Speaker 1: They're all over the field and they're playing hard and
Speaker 1: all that, And I'm like, is it because they just
Speaker 1: needed one game underneath their belt or is it because
Speaker 1: they knew that they were better than this team? So
Speaker 1: I think we have to wait in a round for
Speaker 1: one more week to find out what that was. But
Speaker 1: basing off of the Baltimore game. I feel as if
Speaker 1: they had another good week and that they built upon
Speaker 1: the previous previous week, and they did get that win,
Speaker 1: thirty to seven the final score, and it was I mean,
Speaker 1: it was high energy from the offense. You talk about
Speaker 1: the defense and what they were able to bring juice
Speaker 1: wise up front. I think it was something that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys can build on moving into the final three weeks
Speaker 1: of the season. He got San Francisco coming up on Sunday,
Speaker 1: They're coming off a loss to Washington, and you got
Speaker 1: two divisional games to round out the season against Philly
Speaker 1: and then New York. So there's a lot of p
Speaker 1: positives to take from this game. But what happened with
Speaker 1: some of the negatives and did the majority of the
Speaker 1: negatives circle around five to four and five five on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the football. We'll talk about that
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys got the win, and it was a dominant win,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys of course take down the Bengals thirty
Speaker 1: to seven. But there were some negatives, so we talked
Speaker 1: a lot about the positives. But I do want to
Speaker 1: spend a couple of moments here to see what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys need to fix going into Sunday's matchup with San
Speaker 1: Francisco and then moving forward the final couple weeks of
Speaker 1: the season. So Isaiah, I'll start with you, what did
Speaker 1: you see yesterday that stuck out of something that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have to turn around. I'm gonna go right back
Speaker 1: to them linebackers around that second level. These guys were
Speaker 1: not where they're supposed to be, or maybe they are
Speaker 1: where they're supposed to be, and then they jump out
Speaker 1: of where they're supposed to be. Um, there is there.
Speaker 1: I know there's one play in particular where where lvee
Speaker 1: just I just I don't, I don't understand it. He
Speaker 1: was in the hole. The fullback came at him like
Speaker 1: like old school, right, like you're talking about Daryl Johnson
Speaker 1: and freaking uh Ken Norton. Right. Yeah, just like once
Speaker 1: he coming at you, you you know this is it's on.
Speaker 1: We're just what we're doing. Yeah, and looked at him.
Speaker 1: He said yeah, and he ran around him and he
Speaker 1: ran around the opposite hole. He was in the A
Speaker 1: gap originally about to go ahead up with a fullback,
Speaker 1: ran through the B gap, ran back around the office.
Speaker 1: A linement came around him and try to grab him
Speaker 1: by the ankles. And I just looked at that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: where's the physicality, where's the physicality? You're jumping around holes.
Speaker 1: That's not what you do as a linebacker, especially a
Speaker 1: team that's that's running the defense we're running where we
Speaker 1: only have a couple of linebackers in the game. Anyway,
Speaker 1: you have to be physical. We're relying you to be that. Um.
Speaker 1: So I was still disappointed and that play and others
Speaker 1: that I saw him and Jalen. They have to figure
Speaker 1: it out. Man. They're more physical than that. They're they're
Speaker 1: they're more aggressive than that. They showed flashes yesterday. They
Speaker 1: did show some flashes of what we saw a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago when they were running around and you
Speaker 1: saw the guy swipe in and we howling, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't enough. I agree with you, Isaiah. I call one
Speaker 1: of my old coaches call that the Matador technique. And
Speaker 1: when you when you ol a technique, man, you don't
Speaker 1: want no parts of it. And I don't know what
Speaker 1: that was about, because if he would have been able
Speaker 1: to make that tackle based off they could just send
Speaker 1: him straight to the Hall of Fame if that's how
Speaker 1: he's gonna do it for the rest of his career.
Speaker 1: But I mean, there was a lot of things. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you talk about our our secondary and just guys
Speaker 1: playing where they're being where they're supposed to be, and
Speaker 1: obviously with the injuries and all of that, you kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, you hesitate to be overly critical. But these
Speaker 1: guys are professionals. They're being paid paid to play this game.
Speaker 1: So I saw a lot of that's still in the
Speaker 1: secondary where these guys are taking bad angles. Xavier Woods. Look,
Speaker 1: I don't know what his strong points off of the
Speaker 1: coaching staff to continue continue to keep starting him. But
Speaker 1: I just feel like when it's when it comes down
Speaker 1: to attacking a lot of scrimmage or at least attacking
Speaker 1: to tackle someone, he just doesn't have it. He's kind
Speaker 1: of he's catching basically. But when it comes down to
Speaker 1: to guys like Jay Lou, I thought he played a
Speaker 1: little bit better. I mean he played, he was aggressive,
Speaker 1: besides the one where the guy gave him a little
Speaker 1: shoulder and launched him off of him going out of bounds.
Speaker 1: But linebacker wise, linebacker wise, you know, the guys definitely,
Speaker 1: uh they didn't That wasn't their best work. And when
Speaker 1: you say the eye and the guy don't lie, that's
Speaker 1: something that they got to go back to today and
Speaker 1: look at the way that they performed, especially with running
Speaker 1: around those blocks. Yeah, I think I think Cincinnati had
Speaker 1: almost almost two hundred yards at halftime. You know, they
Speaker 1: were on pace for a lot of yardage. They beat
Speaker 1: themselves in a lot of ways, So you gotta look
Speaker 1: at that side of it with the defense. But I
Speaker 1: thought the way that they fought through a lot of
Speaker 1: injuries in the secondary and were able to get off
Speaker 1: the field in some fourth town situations in the second half.
Speaker 1: That that was impressive. If there's a concern for me,
Speaker 1: I'll put me to the offense Kyle and just say,
Speaker 1: you know, while the offense looked good and a Dalton
Speaker 1: had a really good game and they grind it out yards,
Speaker 1: they were able to kind of manage the game because
Speaker 1: they actually had a lead. We haven't seen that too often.
Speaker 1: But you know, they're still having problems in the in
Speaker 1: the red zone, you know, two or four in the
Speaker 1: red zone, and I know people on Twitter questioning Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore's play calling down around the two yard line with
Speaker 1: two straight passes instead of give it to Zeke. Well,
Speaker 1: they've had trouble in short yardage and it was also
Speaker 1: other parts of the game trying to pick up runs
Speaker 1: first down running the ball. So I think they missed
Speaker 1: Zack Martin a lot. And you know, you know, we'll
Speaker 1: see where they are with the playoff race. It's looking
Speaker 1: thinner and thinner, dimmer and dimmer. But you know, to
Speaker 1: try to win the rest of these games, they can't
Speaker 1: just continue kicking field goals, you know, that's been too
Speaker 1: much of a prop especially coming off of turnovers. You know,
Speaker 1: they just aren't able to capitalize and score touchdowns. And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is due to being
Speaker 1: banged up on the offensive line, not getting that push
Speaker 1: that they need. And I'm glad you brought that up
Speaker 1: because I think one of the big things for me
Speaker 1: yesterday was the fact that Zeke ends up with twelve
Speaker 1: carries for forty eight yards. I mean, he and twenty
Speaker 1: six of those were one run. He had that one
Speaker 1: big twenty six yard run and the rest of the time,
Speaker 1: I mean it was one, two, three yards. And I
Speaker 1: asked this question yesterday on postgame because Nate Newton was
Speaker 1: talking about the three four yards in a cloud of
Speaker 1: dust type of mentality. Whenever it comes to Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 1: and normally he's gonna get you those yards. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get you three. He was gonna get you four. If
Speaker 1: you need it, he's gonna get those yards. But lately
Speaker 1: it hasn't been as automatic as it has been for
Speaker 1: the entirety of his career. But if that's the only
Speaker 1: thing he can do well now, then isn't that a
Speaker 1: big worry for you? Because I saw that against a
Speaker 1: bottom four rush defensive Cincinnati yesterday where they just couldn't
Speaker 1: get the run game going for the Cowboys. But you've
Speaker 1: got a bottom four offensive line and this, uh and
Speaker 1: I understand that that, you know, the great Nate Newton
Speaker 1: says that three yards in a cloud of dust. That's
Speaker 1: a mentality that I feel like a lot of teams
Speaker 1: don't incorporate. Maybe Tennessee does because of the kind of
Speaker 1: running back that they have. But if you look at
Speaker 1: you know Zeke over the last five years, his numbers
Speaker 1: are trending down. And you're talking about a guy that
Speaker 1: has had a ton of carries and a guy that's
Speaker 1: also now dealing with some injuries. So look, I think
Speaker 1: we can ride him on that. He did that that
Speaker 1: one run that you're talking about. We broke off the
Speaker 1: twenty yards over twenty yards. It looked good. It looked
Speaker 1: like vintage Zeke, and then it went right back to
Speaker 1: you know, guy's crowd in the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 1: taking him away. You gotta understand that teams understand that
Speaker 1: how hard, how bad our offensive line is, and they
Speaker 1: can cry od the line of scrimmage and take certain
Speaker 1: things away and they're they're taking away one of our
Speaker 1: main weapons, and that Zeke Elliott. So I mean as
Speaker 1: much he's gonna take the brunt of the criticism on that,
Speaker 1: but we really have to come back to twenty twenty
Speaker 1: and look at what teams have done against us to
Speaker 1: nullify his impact. No, you said it, heck, I mean,
Speaker 1: our officer line is where it starts. You can have it.
Speaker 1: I mean, just just think about think about some of
Speaker 1: the greatest rhetor backs ever played, and think about what
Speaker 1: they would have been without an office, without a solid
Speaker 1: officive line. You know this, this this cowboy's officier line
Speaker 1: is not what it was once and it's definitely not
Speaker 1: what it is with this current roster. Um. You think
Speaker 1: about guys like Barry Sanders, right and my eyes, Barry
Speaker 1: Sanders is a goat. Barry Sanders was able to make
Speaker 1: crazy amount of yardage even with the officive line that
Speaker 1: everybody would rate as subpar. Right. Um, He's not that
Speaker 1: type of running back, you know. Zeke's not that type
Speaker 1: of running back. Zeke needs a line that creates some
Speaker 1: holes for him and then once he gets through the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, then he will make some things happen.
Speaker 1: But he's not this this willing deal, shake you up,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Get everybody to make nasty
Speaker 1: and then take off for seventy yards. That's not him.
Speaker 1: He's not Tyreek Hill. Um, so we have people have
Speaker 1: to stop sitting their expectations that way until this officive
Speaker 1: line gets back to where they once were. Don't expect
Speaker 1: too much out of Zeke in that regard. He's still
Speaker 1: consistent when he gets past the line of scrimmage, he's
Speaker 1: still falling forward, he's still running cats over, he's still
Speaker 1: doing those things. Um No, he's not. No, he's not
Speaker 1: breaking for forty yards. He's he's he's he's got a
Speaker 1: couple years under his belt. Yeah. Now, but is he
Speaker 1: being worth the ninety million, ninety million dollar contract he's
Speaker 1: being given, because I think that's the biggest worries. Sure,
Speaker 1: he does things right, he does these little things good
Speaker 1: along the way, but whenever it comes to the money
Speaker 1: he's being given. He's not being paid to be a
Speaker 1: subpar or below average back. He's being paid to make
Speaker 1: plays and change the game and be a lit and
Speaker 1: that's necessarily so my question. So my question is who's
Speaker 1: calling him subpar or below average right now. The things
Speaker 1: that Zeke does well, he still does well. He's an
Speaker 1: age or say, but I'm saying. What I'm saying is
Speaker 1: people are asking him to be Superman right now when
Speaker 1: that's never been his style. But still contract says. His
Speaker 1: contract says, do what you kept doing, which was run
Speaker 1: behind his great office A line and when they get
Speaker 1: through the whole runs of cats over and makes them
Speaker 1: do his miss That's what his contract says. That not
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Oh now you're playing with their
Speaker 1: third third string of office A line. Now we need
Speaker 1: you become Barry Sanders. No, that's not in his contract.
Speaker 1: That's not that's not in this contract. His contracts to
Speaker 1: be the same consistent running back he was, and he
Speaker 1: he can't only be that if he has an officive
Speaker 1: line that creates those gaps for him. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to mention, I know it's it's a
Speaker 1: five man offensive line, but I think Zach Martin really
Speaker 1: does His absence is felt, you know. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at when he missed the Washington game with
Speaker 1: a concussion, they had eighty three rushing yards. He came
Speaker 1: back for three straight games one thirty three, one forty four,
Speaker 1: one eighty against Minnesota rushing and then he goes out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he goes out against Washington right on Thanksgiving and sixty
Speaker 1: yards one eleven against Baltimore. You know, the line just
Speaker 1: has not been as as you know, physical and dominant
Speaker 1: upfront without him, and that's why he is arguably the
Speaker 1: best guard in the league, maybe a top two three
Speaker 1: offensive lineman in the entire league. They really miss him,
Speaker 1: not to mention what they've been missing already this year.
Speaker 1: That does affect Zeke. I mean, I thought Barry Sanders too, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: Like that's Barry Sanders made something out of nothing throughout
Speaker 1: his career in Detroit. But you know, every great running
Speaker 1: backs still needs, still needs the best line possible to
Speaker 1: make things happen. My argument, Rob is this, and whenever
Speaker 1: this conversation comes up around Barry centers, so this is
Speaker 1: we're talking into context of like, Zeke, if you took
Speaker 1: Emmett Smith, no disrespect to em imm It's amazing. If
Speaker 1: you took Emmitt Smith and put him on Detroit back
Speaker 1: in the day, what would Immit have been? Maybe not
Speaker 1: im it would leading Russia. Same person, right, same capabilities,
Speaker 1: different situation because of what the officer line presents you
Speaker 1: now due to opposite. If you take Barry Centers an
Speaker 1: elusive running back, right, I'm play playmaking running back. Put
Speaker 1: him with the Cowboys officer line at that time, does
Speaker 1: he have the same stats as he had in Detroit?
Speaker 1: Now I got something for you. I got something for
Speaker 1: you as there so and people that are down on
Speaker 1: that are down on Zeke. If you put Zeke in
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski's offense in Cleveland, then you get the Zeke
Speaker 1: that you have zac in two in his sixteen So
Speaker 1: you're not you're not having these same questions. And the
Speaker 1: thing about his contract is he earned his contract. He
Speaker 1: earned it based off of the carries and the yards
Speaker 1: and all of that. And I understand it's really hindsight
Speaker 1: to turn back and say, oh, well, look, you're not
Speaker 1: what you used to be and not give credence to
Speaker 1: what he has to deal with to create all of that. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, look after twenty twenty and we come back
Speaker 1: over there and look at the totality of this season,
Speaker 1: there are gonna be a lot of things that you
Speaker 1: have to criticism that you have to sit back on
Speaker 1: because of the way that this offensive line, those injuries
Speaker 1: that they've had to deal with. So, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: easy to critique and judge Zeke, but then you got
Speaker 1: to look at everything, man, before you you come up
Speaker 1: with that conclusion. And I get it. I get it, Kyle.
Speaker 1: I mean it looked the twenty six yard run. Look,
Speaker 1: he hasn't had those twenty yard runs and that's that
Speaker 1: opens up to criticism because he got more of those
Speaker 1: his first year or two in the league than he
Speaker 1: has now. But I just think when you get your
Speaker 1: your entire offense healthy and he's healthy, I still think
Speaker 1: he's a productive running back for you. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it is something that you have to look at though,
Speaker 1: whenever it comes to this offense, and of course the
Speaker 1: offensive line plays a massive factor. I'm not disagreeing there,
Speaker 1: but I think just whenever he comes to the contract
Speaker 1: of what it says, yeah, it says be consistent, but
Speaker 1: consistency right now has been below what is consistency was
Speaker 1: whenever he was playing earlier. And yes, like I said,
Speaker 1: the offensive line has has a big deal and playing
Speaker 1: a role in that. All right, let's take us our
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Speaker 1: to the NFC East anymore. We got to week fifteen
Speaker 1: before we said, oh well, the Cowboys are in a
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Speaker 1: are sitting at six wins right now with two game
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Speaker 1: it's no more ends. It's basically Cowboys have to win out.
Speaker 1: Washington has to lose out in order for the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys to win the division and go to the playoffs
Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty. So what is the message heckma
Speaker 1: whenever it comes to Mike McCarthy and this coaching staff
Speaker 1: moving into these final three weeks of the year, when
Speaker 1: the division looks the way that it does. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna talk and coaches speak right now, and they always
Speaker 1: say control with two can control, right, So that is
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the Monstra if Frisco at the Star
Speaker 1: control with you. If you control, do what you can
Speaker 1: do and prepare for every week like it said last
Speaker 1: and that's what this team has to do. When if
Speaker 1: you watch the Washington football team and also the Giants game,
Speaker 1: you know, the Washington football team and their defense and
Speaker 1: oh my god, Chase Young defensive Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: If you don't vote for that, I don't know what's
Speaker 1: wrong with you. And I don't think that the Giants
Speaker 1: are what we thought they were going to be. But
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, if they have any hope, like you said,
Speaker 1: they have to win out and looking at Washington's schedule, man,
Speaker 1: it's hard pressed to see that they can't win, at
Speaker 1: least against the Panthers. Rob, I just keep playing hard.
Speaker 1: You know, you're not out of it yet. It's not
Speaker 1: looking good obviously, but you know, I said it earlier
Speaker 1: in the show, and it's it's not twenty ten. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not the same situation as when they started one
Speaker 1: and seven and Jason Garrett took over for Wade Phillips
Speaker 1: and they basically, you know, put everybody on notice. Instead,
Speaker 1: we're evaluating for next year. It's not that you know,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy is established as the head coach, but I
Speaker 1: think he's still trying to get that foundation laid down
Speaker 1: for next year. So they need to spend the last
Speaker 1: four weeks of the season, you know, evaluating guys and
Speaker 1: seeing who fits, you know, especially defensively, they have so
Speaker 1: many questions to answer defensively and what they're gonna look
Speaker 1: like scheme wise, who's going to be part of the
Speaker 1: defense and uh, and so I think it's very important
Speaker 1: to see how guys performing and have guys play well
Speaker 1: so they can make that decision afterwards, because there's going
Speaker 1: to be changing on that side of the ball in
Speaker 1: terms of personnel with guys leaving through free agency, and
Speaker 1: they've got to see if the scheme they have works,
Speaker 1: you know what they want to do going next year.
Speaker 1: No heck, but tigu right out of my right, right
Speaker 1: out of my mouth man when he said, you know control,
Speaker 1: would you can control? Um? You know I would tell
Speaker 1: the guy's control, would you control? And the eye and
Speaker 1: the sky don't lie? That's it. You know what what
Speaker 1: you what you put on the field, that is your resume.
Speaker 1: So whether this for you, whether it's for this team,
Speaker 1: it is important. So go out there and do what
Speaker 1: you can do. And with the final three games on
Speaker 1: the schedule, they're all three winnable. You can win against
Speaker 1: San Francisco, New York and Philadelphia, even though Philadelphia looks
Speaker 1: pretty good yesterday with Jalen Hurt says the quarterback. I
Speaker 1: mean they look solid. I mean that's kind of what
Speaker 1: we expected. Whenever Carson Wentz will spin. But I'm not
Speaker 1: going to go there. Whenever it comes to the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 1: but these are winnable games, and whenever it comes to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Overall, four wins compared to seven wins, even
Speaker 1: though for draft nuts you don't want to hear that.
Speaker 1: You want to hear the four wins top ten pick.
Speaker 1: But if you finish seven, tell me this right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you finish seven and nine, with what
Speaker 1: you've had to work with and what your team looks
Speaker 1: like right now, completely in shambles, you cannot tell me
Speaker 1: that's a fantastic coaching job. You cannot tell me that
Speaker 1: this coach did extra work and put in extra work
Speaker 1: to get to that point and to make something happen
Speaker 1: moving into twenty twenty one that you can be positive
Speaker 1: about it. I don't care about the draft picks at
Speaker 1: that point. If you're winning seven games this year, you've
Speaker 1: got a lot to be happy about, and you've got
Speaker 1: a lot of excitement going into twenty twenty one when
Speaker 1: you get all these guys back, and I think that's
Speaker 1: something to think about here in the final three weeks
Speaker 1: of the year. But it's going to be certainly something
Speaker 1: to look for. The Cowboys got to build on this
Speaker 1: thirty to seven win over the Cincinnati Bengals. But that's
Speaker 1: gonna do it for us here on Talking Cowboys. We'll
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow nine thirty. Will continue looking backwards at
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati game. We'll take a look at the tape,
Speaker 1: and we'll start looking ahead a little bit as the
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers come to town this Sunday.
Speaker 1: But for Heck Harrison, for Rob Phillips, for Isaiah stand
Speaker 1: back and back at the Star, mister Chris Bean putting
Speaker 1: in the work. I'm Kyle Gilmans saying so long. We'll
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