1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Hello, I'm Michael and I'm Scott Sosnik. Every week at 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: this time, plus Monday's, Wednesdays and Thursdays, we explored the 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: big money issues in the world of sports. Today we 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: speak Oh my godness, I can't even believe me. You're 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: very excited. Yes, I am very exciting pro boxer Oscar 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: de Lahoya, the Golden Boy. But first, let's look at 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: the top stories of the week. Joining us as Bloomberg 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: Business of Sports reporter Evan no Wi Williams. And let's 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: start again. This ad from Nike has been in the 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: news for many days now, let's just say at least 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: more than a week. The Colin Kaepernick ad uh and 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: as more news involved. That's funny. I sent a note 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: over to NBC as soon as it's all started, and 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: I said, hey, by any chances Nike buying any ad 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: time on the first broadcast of the season, And NBC said, 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: we don't discuss the plans of our advertisers. She'll have 17 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: to go to Nike and ask them. We don't discuss. 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: We don't do that, but we're not going to discuss this. 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: But I think with the point, but what do you 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: think who hasn't seen. I'm not sure they have to. 21 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I get, but I'm not sure they 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: need to advertise by commercial with this ad because boy, 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: just just the social of it all, it's made its 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: way around the world. Yeah, I don't think the airing 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: it is is to reach you know, new eyes as 26 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: much as it is to you know, make it clear 27 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: that you know this is something that they're fully behind. 28 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: You know that this is doubling down in some ways. 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: Right there, they're making it clear that during an NFL, 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: during an NFL broadcast in the arena where you know 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: where this is most controversial. Uh, they're making it clear 32 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: that that Colin is a principal part of this thirtieth 33 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: anniversary Just do It campaign? Can we go subjective? Bar 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: what do you think the it? I I think it's 35 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: a powerful ad, and and and and what you just 36 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: said earlier, you know, the ad is successful. Now again 37 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm not getting into the politics of it, but you know, 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: the add is successful when people are looking forward on 39 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: social media. You don't you don't have to look forward 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: on TV. So just Colin put it out. But I 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: can just see like that, you can see the tentacles 42 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: go around the world. People wanted to see it. Yeah, 43 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: speaking of the NFL, Levian Bell, people playing Fantasy are like, 44 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: oh my god, what just happened. Remember now, people had 45 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: Levian Bell ranked in Fantasy either two or number three 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: in the first round, and all of a sudden, this 47 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: thing has blown up into one fell swoop of negotiations 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: and he's not coming back. Yeah, and this week we've 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: seen his teammates are are now talking trash about him. 50 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: Marquise Pouncey said, just man up and tell us what 51 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna do. Ramot Foster, this just sounds idiotic, It's insane. 52 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: Just man up. Listen. Everybody knows in the NFL, especially 53 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,959 Speaker 1: as a running back, dude, do what you need to 54 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: do to get paid, because you you get beat up. 55 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: Your careers are shorter than anybody else. Take care of yourself. 56 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: If this is what you need to do to get 57 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: paid in the NFL, every man in that locker room 58 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: should understand that Levy and Bell has been one of 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: the best running backs in the league for a couple 60 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: of years now, four hundred touches or so last year. 61 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: As Scott said, this is a position that is probably 62 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: the shortest, shortest shelf life in the league, and by 63 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: virtue of the rookie contract and the franchise tag, he's 64 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: never been able to negotiate his own contract. Uh. And 65 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: that's what he wants to do here. And it's it's 66 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: amazing to see other players who should be supporting that, uh, 67 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: publicly bashing him. And I'd imagine Scott, if you're a 68 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: negotiator for the league in terms of the next collective 69 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: bargaining agreement. Uh, this is something you're licking your lips about. Right. 70 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: These are players carrying the owner's water. But now I 71 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: gotta play devil's advocate. First of all, he is throwing 72 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: away over eight hundred fifty dollars per game two And 73 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: this is probably the most important part for this last year. 74 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: He really couldn't negotiate a contract. So are we doing 75 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: it for saving the wear and tear on the body 76 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: and trying to do something on the back? En? He 77 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: wants a guarantee? Want it's more than a year long? 78 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: He wants. Yeah, he wants to guaranteed dollars. That's what 79 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: every NFL player wants. It's about the guarantee. All those 80 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: numbers you see in the NFL when you see these 81 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: contracts a million dollar deal, probably thirty of its guaranteed. 82 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: A very few players. Those were the big leverage. Hello, 83 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Those are the kind of guys who can 84 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: get almost all guaranteed, get huge, But go stack up 85 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: these NFL contracts against the others. I mean they must 86 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: look at basketball players and baseball players and be like, oh, 87 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: I should have I should have played that sport. Yeah. 88 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: And now the story and Evan, this is your story 89 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: about State Farm. Yeah, the in the past week kind 90 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: of unprecedented in the naming rights world. State Farm has 91 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: put its name on an NBA arena where the Atlanta 92 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: Hawks play and an NFL stadium where the Arizona Cardinals play. 93 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: It's a commitment of let me see if they did 94 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: a good job before what was the end of the 95 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: d the arena was called that I don't know, Philips Arena, Okay, 96 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: and then because there was some Scenics University, they've had 97 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowls there and you didn't know they've done a 98 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: terrible job of of of activating that deal. Yeah, So 99 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: I asked the folks at State Farm kind of why 100 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: they were doing this. They've been one of the biggest 101 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: sponsors and advertisers and sports for a long time now, 102 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: but never done spends like this um. And what they 103 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: said is that with the changing media marketplace, you know, 104 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: with people cutting the cord on cable, they're less reliant 105 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: on the on the TV, print radio advertising as they 106 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: have been in the past. And a stadium putting your 107 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: name state Farm Arena, State Farm Stadium is a more 108 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: permanent and possibly even more reliable way to invest your 109 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: dollars right now, Well, like a good neighbor, Evan is there, okay, 110 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: Well play the play the bar awful music. You know 111 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: whatever bad idea of bar music. You have the bad 112 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: idea of bar music. Anyway, moving right along, Nanke You guys, 113 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: those were some of the topics for today's show. Guess 114 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: what I've been sticking around. That's right, you're sticking around. 115 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm sticking around because we have our interview now with 116 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 1: Oscar Dela Mr Bar. Where do I begin with? Oscar 117 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: de la Hoya, a former pro boxer of course long 118 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: history dating back to ninety two, made his pro debut 119 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: first round t KO. Don't see that a lot. Has 120 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: held many titles welterweight, light welter weight belts from eight 121 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: he's in the US Olympic Hall of Fame. Uh. Most importantly, though, 122 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,799 Speaker 1: he is a successful promoter with his company, Golden Boy Promotions. Wow, 123 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: this is a very cool honor. Yes, that's right. I'm 124 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: drooling all over the microphone because we have Oscar Dela, 125 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 1: one of the best and image nobody and your picture 126 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: is on the homepage to the thing that people know 127 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: what you look like. Nobody wants to picture you drooling. 128 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: We've got company. Yeah, so so they're supposed to be 129 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: on your best behavior. Oscardello one of the best boxers 130 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: to ever step in the ring. Thank you so much 131 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: for joining. What a pleasure, Thank you, thank you for 132 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: having me. I guess I start with the obvious question 133 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: about the state of boxing. Where is it today? UM? 134 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: Alive and well very healthy. UM. In terms of if 135 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: you take a look at the numbers, ratings, UM, pay 136 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: per view, UM, UM numbers, the money is that it's generating. UM. 137 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: I would say that it's it's better than ever. Uh. 138 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: There's more boxing on TV than there ever was, whether 139 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: it's on Fox or whether it's on NBC. Uh. Now 140 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: that we partnered up with with UM Facebook Watch, Uh, 141 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 1: we're we're being viewed by millions and millions across the globe, 142 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: which which is a great opportunity for the sport. The 143 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: sport right now is very healthy. UM. You know, some 144 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: might say differently, UM, UFC, maybe is there room for both? Absolutely? Yeah, 145 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: you don't have to pick. Is there room no, there's 146 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: room for the room for both. Um. I strongly feel 147 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: that the biggest generating pay per view events uh in 148 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: combative sports have taken place in boxing. That's including the 149 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: Connor McGregor versus Floyd Mayweather fight. There's a reason why 150 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: Connor McGregor made as much money as he did inside 151 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: the boxing ring, not the octagon. So boxing boxing is 152 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: in a state where it's it's it's uh healthier than 153 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: ever and uh you know, uh obviously September is um 154 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: is the super Bowl of of our sport with Canello 155 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: and Triple G. So really looking forward to that. Tell 156 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: us more about that about that, um, It's obviously the 157 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: re match first time around generated some big numbers on 158 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: pay per view. We expect that number to double. UM. 159 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: Give us the numbers are what are we talking here, 160 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm expecting about two million homes on pay per view? Um? UM. 161 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: I I strongly feel that the fact that you have uh, 162 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: two fighters in their prime, the fact that you have 163 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: two fighters who are who are young, who are willing 164 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: to to duke it out inside the in the middle 165 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: of the ring, the fact that they're not scared to 166 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: get knocked out. UM, it calls for a great fight. 167 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: Like the consumer, the consumer knows what they want. The 168 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: consumer wants to wants to watch a great fight, and 169 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: that's exactly what we're delivering. And that's the reason why 170 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: we can generate so many big numbers. Are general sports 171 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: fans finding it or these hardcore fans? I'm not sure 172 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: how many general sports fans the names there's there's yeah, no, 173 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: there there there is. There is a certain percentage of 174 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: of of fans that that are finding the fight. UH. 175 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: Most of them, yes, are hardcore targeted fans that UH 176 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: that have watched boxing over and over again. But we 177 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: we calculate that there's a roughly uh six to seven 178 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: million hardcore fans UH in the sport of boxing. It's 179 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: just a matter of penetrating them and UH and and 180 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: and and reaching them and UH. We strongly feel that 181 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: we can we can capture that audience and I'm not 182 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: too sure how how I guess strongly we're crossing over 183 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: to the casual fan. But it's tracking in the right direction. 184 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: I I'm I'm saying, I'm saying to million very conservative. 185 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: We're speaking with Oscar de la Hoya, whose Golden Boy 186 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: Promotions represents Cannello Alvarez in in next weekend's mega fight 187 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: with Triple G. It's Canadian Glovekin versus Canello Alvarez too, right, 188 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: the first one was a draw. You had a horse 189 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: in the in the fight, so obviously maybe not the 190 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: result you wanted. But how good is a draw for 191 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: drumming up support and interesting? In the second exactly? No, 192 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: I mean I obviously wasn't expecting a draw. UM. I 193 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: was expecting UM. I was expecting obviously somebody to get 194 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: the win. But look, a draw was was was fair? 195 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: The first time around, it was a great competitive fight 196 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: both guys. Uh, they came out swinging, and it was 197 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: probably one of the best fights in recent years that 198 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: that that a boxing fan can watch. UM. I strongly 199 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: feel that the second time around, uh will be a 200 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: continuation of the first one. I mean, we're gonna watch 201 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: Round thirteen on September and uh the fact that for 202 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: the first time Cannello oliver Is is talking knockout. He's 203 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: telling Golofkan Look, I'm gonna knock you out for all 204 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: the uh bad mouthing you've you you've done over over 205 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: the uh the course of time. And uh, I strongly 206 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: feel we're gonna see one of the best fights in 207 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: recent years. How much of that is real? And the 208 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: pre fight hype. I always wondered about guys wanting to 209 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: fight before they're supposed to fight. That never made sense 210 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, No, Cannello and golof can Uh, there's 211 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: there's this this animosity towards each other that is is real. 212 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: Both guys are Look, I mean both, I mean both 213 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: guys are nice guys. They're they're really really nice guy, 214 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: the nicest guys in the sport. But I mean, I 215 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: have to mention this and be real. Is that when 216 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: Cannello uh tested positive for claim buhau uh in his 217 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: in his system um Gonnetti glafkin Uh, he attacked as 218 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: his uh you know, he attacked his persona, he attacked 219 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: he attacked his character and Canelo Cannello didn't like it, 220 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and for the first time ever 221 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: Cannello's talking knockout. I've never I've never heard Cannello say 222 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: I want to knock you out and uh, and he 223 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: really means it. So it calls for a great fight. 224 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: It calls for one of those fights that that you 225 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: don't want to miss. You've talked about a pay per 226 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: view event. That's how we think of boxing, the big events, 227 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: pay per view. But the world is different these days. 228 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: We've got performed in the zone investing in boxing O T. T. 229 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: You said about sixty eight million hardcore boxing fans. You're 230 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: pony up ten twelve bucks a month for that kind 231 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: of content. That's real money. What are the opportunities that 232 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: you're on the promotion side? Now, what are the opportunities 233 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: in the new world order of media. There's there's a 234 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: tremendous opportunity um. UM Now that uh the zone is 235 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: is is getting involved um or trying to penetrate the 236 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: US market. UM with ring TV that we that we control. Um. 237 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: We're starting to see our numbers spike, uh drastically. What's 238 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: been the growth of what can you give me the 239 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: growth chart? Where you were how far along ago? And well, 240 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: let's let's let's say our first ever digital pay per 241 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: view that we promoted uh uh we probably sold at 242 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: a price of maybe uh eighty nine dollars. UH probably 243 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: sold about thirty thousand UM pay per views online and 244 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: the growth has been incredible. Were were the last fight, 245 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: we sold uh roughly two thousand homes. So it's it's 246 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: trending in the right direction. Um, it's fairly new. People 247 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: are obviously these days, not wanting to be told what 248 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: to watch, when to watch, and where to watch, you know, 249 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: and uh, but there's something about sports that's exactly what 250 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: because it's live exactly I mean live life. Sports content 251 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: is king. We all know that. And there's there's something 252 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: about the pay per view model that people still want 253 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: to watch it on their TV. They want to they 254 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: want to watch it amongst friends and family and have 255 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: a big old party. Um. That's the reason why we 256 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: can still sell uh north of two million view the NFL. 257 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: Would you put the Super Bowl on pay per view 258 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: or you have happy on the free over there? No, 259 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean the obviously the there's a there's a big 260 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: advantage of having uh such a big event on on 261 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: live free TV uh network television. Uh. But obviously The 262 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: advantage that NFL has is that you know, the network 263 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: television is pain millions or billions of dollars for for 264 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: the rights to televise their events. Are these conversations that 265 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: are new for promoters? I mean, you're you're now waiting 266 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: into this idea of selling pay per view yourself or 267 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: for match Room making a deal a billion dollar partnership 268 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: with with this own ten years ago? Correct me if 269 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, I would have assumed that the decision on 270 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: what to do from a media standpoint was a lot 271 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: easier or simpler for for boxing promoters. Now, how much 272 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: more of your time is being taken up on how 273 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: do we deliver this? How do we get this to 274 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: the most amount of fans? Will also optimizing the dollars? 275 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: No exactly, and UM we're we're obviously UM, we're obviously 276 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: in in in talks um uh with with uh with 277 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: various UM outlets that uh that will take us to 278 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: the forefront. I strongly feel that like everything is is moving, 279 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: everything is changing and UH, but we still must continue 280 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: with that pay per view model? UH what sing it on? Uh? 281 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: On television? UM. I strongly feel that we can generate 282 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: a substantial amount of of of Money's online and and 283 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: uh O t T and over the top. But but 284 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: there's something about the consumer that wants to watch it 285 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: again with their families, amongst their friends, amongst people. It's 286 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: it's it's nice to watch it on your tablet, on 287 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: your phone, on the computer. But there's there's nothing like 288 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: watching a sporting event on on television. So in terms 289 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: of big pay per view draw so let's say you 290 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: know a million and a half in a fight. These 291 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: two fighters Triple g And and Canello obviously are at 292 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: that level. How many other boxers are out there right 293 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: now that are big enough names to draw a big 294 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: pay per view audience? The the only the only fighter 295 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: is Cannello and uh And and Cannello uh needs Golofkan 296 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: and galofcan needs Cannelo. There's there's only a handful of 297 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: fighters out there. For instance, like Mayweather v fights once again, 298 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: he'll generate those big numbers. If Economy Gregor decides to 299 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: fight Canello, for instance, you'll generate three, four or five 300 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: million homes on pay per view. UM the pay per 301 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: view model UM is I believe not going anywhere. I 302 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: strongly feel like I said, I mean people people love 303 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: watching those fights on TV. But back when you were fighting, 304 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: it felt like there was more. It felt like there 305 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: were more big names out there that that could draw 306 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: a pay per view number like that. And now it 307 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: sounds like you're saying there's one or two, no exactly, 308 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: and um, you know, it's it's it's it's it's almost 309 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: a breath of fresh air when you hear about these 310 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: great deals that top rank is is uh orchestrating with 311 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: ESPN or Eddie Hearn with the Zone. Uh, Like I said, 312 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: Golden Boy Promotions is in the works of of of 313 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: of working on such big deals. You create a star 314 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: in boxing or does that person just have to go 315 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: out If you don't win, you don't become a star? 316 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: Is what's the balance? Then? Well, it's it's the business 317 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: is funny because the only way you can create a 318 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: pay per view star, and this this model has been 319 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: proven over and over and over again, is by piggybacking 320 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: off the current pay per view star. That's the only 321 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: way you can create a star. And uh, I mean 322 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: because to tell people, to tell people, you have to 323 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: fork over seventy nine eighty nine dollars on h D 324 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: t V. Uh to watch a fight is not easy. 325 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: There you go, I'll put you in five dollars before. 326 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 1: But but boxing is changing, The sport is changing for 327 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: the better. Um. Like I said, we're watching more boxing 328 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: on TV. We were developing more more champions. But uh 329 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: I still have to uh I still have to bank 330 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: on on the pay per view model in order to 331 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: create those those mega stars. We're talking with Oscar de 332 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: la Joya, who was nicknamed the Golden Boy of boxing. 333 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: This went back to the Olympics. There's a story about that. 334 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: When there's a story from Argo my mom, God bless 335 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: her Now. She used to watch TV and which was 336 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: old reruns of Guns Smoke. That was about it. So 337 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: now the summer Olympics are on and she sees you 338 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: on TV and all of a sudden she's like, oh baby, 339 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: stick and move, stick and move. I'm like, Mom, calmed 340 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: down here, man. My point of this whole story is 341 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: that the Olympics that was a great venue to see 342 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: up and coming boxers at the time. It was that 343 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: another way we can show off brand new talent in 344 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: the Olympics. Life well, I I strongly feel that's the 345 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: only platform, um where where a star is going to 346 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: be born, especially in boxing, a pay per view star, 347 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: a household name. UM boxing has changed in the in 348 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: the amateur system, UM for the worst. I I have 349 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: to say, and UM, I'm I'm glad that. I'm glad 350 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: that the AIBA UM um UH, the International UH Boxing Organization, 351 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: if I may say, um is UH is working on 352 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: changing its rules and regulations UM to make boxing UH 353 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: more transparent because our judging is not where it should be. 354 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: Even went back and looked at the scorecard that first 355 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: triple g right and it was terrible. It was terrible. 356 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: Does that turn fans? How? Does? Absolutely? Absolutely? I have 357 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: no idea how that happens. Like a lot of people 358 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,719 Speaker 1: obviously blame me the promoter. I mean you you always 359 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: blame the promoter and like I didn't do anything. I 360 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: didn't you know, um. But I mean there's a reason 361 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: why they banned her for a year. I think it 362 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: was Adelaide Bird who they banned for a year from 363 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: judging UM and um, you know it shouldn't happen. But 364 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: then again, whenever you have a sport that requires um 365 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: uh judging by by a human, don't they throw out 366 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: the high on the low just in case? Right? Exactly, 367 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: maybe we should do that exactly. There's I mean, look, 368 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: boxing has a lot of room for growth, and but 369 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: that's where the opportunity is right now. In the last 370 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: year alone, more than five six billion dollars has been 371 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: injected into combat sports, including boxing. So there's opportunities, including 372 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: with a judging, including with refereeing. So I think we're 373 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: living some good times, uh in boxing, and I'm I'm excited. 374 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: Founder of Golden Boy Promotions. Thank you so much, sir 375 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: for coming in and joining us. You made my day. 376 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: My man, my man, Can I wait, I have a nap? 377 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: Can you have a little jewel right there? Thank you, 378 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Takeaways. Oscardella says that boxing is strong like 379 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: it was back in the day of Muhammad Ali. Come on, 380 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean boxing is strong in the day when there's 381 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: cigar smoke filling up the felt form. Thank you. I'll 382 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 1: bring up I don't exactly. I don't think boxing is 383 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: now where it was. It's a different media landscape, so 384 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: there's opportunity for boxing, but it's not like, hey, everybody's 385 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: watching boxing. Yeah, boxing is, as the oscar just said, 386 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: dealing with the same big questions that the NFL and 387 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: the NBA is It's long been a totally different medium model, 388 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: pay per view, showtime, HBO. But that's shifting now. You know, 389 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: we talked about his own we talked about ESPN and 390 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: ESPN Plus, which carries a lot of boxing. Now, Uh, 391 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: those are conversations that Oscars now having. He's meeting with 392 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: the likes of Amazon and Facebook, just like Adam Silver 393 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: isn't just like Roger goodellas the world is different. It 394 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: used to be you have to aggregate a lot of eyeballs, 395 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,959 Speaker 1: you know, the big mass product. That's not the way 396 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: it is anymore now with all the O T. T. 397 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: It's all right, are there fifty thousand people that want 398 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: to see this? Okay charging ten bucks a month that 399 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: they really like it, their hardcore fans. That's real money. 400 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: You get enough of those, and whether it's archery or 401 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: boxing or M M A or whatever, you get enough 402 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: of those little O T. T channels and you've got 403 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: real business. Back in the day, they used to call 404 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: it closed circulos circuit TV, and he used to go 405 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: pay for that. So why should this be any different? Yeah, 406 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: feel better to be a number one than number five. 407 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: I'll wear a number. Because of Mike, we have a 408 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: chance to go for three in a row. Kid numbers 409 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: at a good time, and let's first started wearing their number. 410 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: I would just happy and floomberg. Business of sports. The 411 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: number of the week, number of the week. Oh my 412 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: goodnessness is so easy. And I'll know this one. You 413 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: do know this one. It's forty eight. People out there 414 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: like a number of what athlete? But never by seeing 415 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: my picture on our web page. There's no way they're 416 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: thinking I'm in my upper forties, so they're not thinking, 417 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: Holy wow, your Twitter photo you look too well. That's 418 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: that's my son. That's not even me, that's my son, 419 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: also a participant in the show. Happy Birthday to Scotts, 420 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: Happy birthday to you. This is like my Marilyn Monroe moment, 421 00:25:53,840 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: except that the nightmare a nightmare. Happy Birthley, Mrs Again, 422 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: Evan has no idea what we're talking about. You know 423 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. How do you not know any 424 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: of these references. I'm just blown away by the way. 425 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm very aware of who Marilyn Monroe is. Happy birthday, 426 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: Mr Broka. But but if we may, let's end it 427 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: on this medina. You actually have a great voice. So 428 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, no happy you sing all the time, 429 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: sing us out, singing, sings out the worst, the worst. 430 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: Come on, Happy birthday. Okay, no, no, this is your 431 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: birthday song. It doesn't last too long. Hey, too many 432 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: jokes right now, but happy birthday, Scott. And also you 433 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: look great for your age. You had to throw that in. 434 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 1: What was that? Damn that's a shine. I'm gonna get 435 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: emails from all my friends like you look, you look good, 436 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: thank you? And I like you. And this is why 437 00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: I knew I always liked you because you're a birth 438 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: go that's right, and I'm a tourist. We're Earth signs. 439 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: Were very compatible friendship. There we go. That's like saying 440 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: you don't look bad for an ogre. It's like you 441 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: can't wait till we find out your birthday or man, 442 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: you look you look great. We have You're gonna have 443 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: your wife on the phone for that one. Uh, moving 444 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: right along, let's wrap this up time. Okay, you've been 445 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: listening to The Bloomberg Business of Sports. We're here each 446 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: and every week at the same time, plus online as 447 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: an Apple podcast. You can catch that Monday's, Wednesdays and 448 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: Thursdays I'm Michael Barr on Twitter at Big Bar Sports, 449 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: I'm Evan Novie Williams on Twitter at NOVI Underscore Williams. 450 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: And I'm Scott Snick. You can follow me on Twitter 451 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: at Thanks for joining us. 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