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Find out 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: how to protect your child when you're out at the 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: mall or the store, or the grocery, in the parking 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: lot at home. Find out about protection regarding babysitters, in daycare, 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: even online. I'd rather have that any day of the 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: week than a plastic toy or god forbid, a toy gun. 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: Join Justice Nation go to crime stops here dot com. 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy, Grace, Joe and Patty Roxall tell 24 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: us last October, one of their employees came to them 25 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: visibly upset. She explained her best friend, now identified as 26 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: Crystal Lee, told her that a man had asked her 27 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: to kill the mother of his child. The two then 28 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: told their employ to have Crystal come speak to them, 29 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: but she never did. The Roxalls say Crystal even told 30 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: her best friend to forget the whole thing. When we 31 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: asked Patty what made her come forward and call the FBI, 32 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: she said it was when she connected the dots of 33 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: who was involved and watching Kelsey's mother, Cheryl plead for 34 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: help on national television. I think the mother that had 35 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: the courage to go on TV when her daughter was 36 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: missing and saying that someone knew where she was at. 37 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: At that point, in my mind thought that Patrick and 38 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: that's the only name I had heard him call, that 39 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: didn't know his last name, had done something to her 40 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: daughter and he knew where she was at. Now. The 41 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: Roxells decided to come forward to kBT News after their 42 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: employee endured harassment and threats on social media. They tell 43 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: us the FBI was already in Twin Falls at their office. 44 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: Quickly after making the call, kBT asked Patty Roxell if 45 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: she considers herself a hero. She said no, She more 46 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: considers herself a whistle blower and hopes anyone else with 47 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: information to the case or other crimes as the courage 48 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: like she did to come forward. Where is Kelsey Barrett? 49 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: Did her so called killer fiance Jig Freeze's mistress tell 50 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: her best friend he asked her to kill Kelsey over 51 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: and over and over? And who is the Idaho couple 52 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: that say they call the FBI after hearing about these 53 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: so called plot from a co employee. I mean, see, Grace, 54 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: this is crime stories. Thank you for being with us. 55 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: You were just hearing from our friend Joe Martin there 56 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: at k m VT TV. We've got all the latest 57 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: as the story develops. In the Missing mom Kelsey Beareth, 58 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: Kelsey goes missing, last spotted on Safeway video with her 59 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: little girl Kelly, in the front of the grocery cart. 60 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: She's never seen alive again. Nobody, no clue. Her phone 61 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: pings nearly eight hundred miles away and another state near 62 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: Twin Falls, Idaho with me right now Crime Online dot 63 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter Ellen Colorin. You can find this in 64 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: every other breaking news story in crime a Crime online 65 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: dot Com. Alexis Terreschuk joining us from Radar online dot 66 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: Com investigative journalist Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina family lawyer Stephen Lampley, 67 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: former detective and doctor. Brian Russell, psychologist, lawyer and host 68 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: of investigation discoveries hit series Fatal vows straight out to you, Ellen, 69 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: kill Lauren. What can you tell me about this couple? 70 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: How did they know the alegend mistress and what do 71 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: they say about Phrasey asking her over and over to 72 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: kill Kelsey Nancy and Idaho couple has come forward, Joe 73 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: and Patty rock Style. Dave said that they contacted the FBI. 74 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: It sounds like it was back in December when they 75 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: eventually contacted the FBI, but they heard all the way 76 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: back in October that Patrick they have been asking Christa 77 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: Lee to help him kill Kelsey Barrett, their employee, came 78 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: to them. She was upset. She said, my fast friend 79 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: told me that a man asked her to kill his 80 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: baby's mother. At the time, they did not think they 81 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: had enough information to go to the police. And they 82 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: asked to speak to Chrystal Lee and she told her 83 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: friend to just drop it. But it certainly looks like 84 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: Christal Lee. More and more, it's looking like Christa Lee 85 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: is the person who is connected to these three solicitation charges. 86 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: Other sources have spoke to news outlets of set that 87 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: Patrick contacted her several times and asked her several times 88 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: to commit a crime. Man, it just never ends with 89 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: this guy. Alexis Terrestria writer online dot com investigative reporter. 90 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: So do you believe, Alexis, from what you were learning 91 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: that this mistress? Can you even have a mistress when 92 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: you're not married? Hold on, Alexis, I know you're happily 93 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: married with a beautiful baby boy and an awesome husband. 94 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: And he's not just for looks either. I remember when 95 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: you're a lung collapse and you and your desk door. 96 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: I saw him in the waiting room at the hospital, Alexis. 97 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: He was white as a sheet, fidgety. His face was 98 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: just like blank. He loves you, okay, and that's what 99 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: you need. You don't need some pretty boy, although he's 100 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: kind of cute. He's running across the street to get 101 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: a pack of cigarettes. When you need help. All right, 102 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: So this is not going to apply to you, doctor 103 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: Brian Russell, not that you're a runaround, but can you 104 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: even have a mistress if you're not married? Technically, I mean, 105 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: we keep saying his mistress. How could she be a 106 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: mistress if he's not even married? Well, I agree. Technically 107 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: a mistress is somebody that a married person is seen 108 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: on the side, on the side of what on the 109 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: side of their marriage. It's an extramarital a fairer partner, 110 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: a sex partner outside of the marriage. Okay, So now 111 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: that I've quasi got that established, back to you, alex 112 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: As Russia, what do we know about this woman? And 113 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: do you really believe from everything you and Ellen Klaurin 114 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: aren't gleaning that she the rodeo mom, the divorced mother 115 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: of two that apparently met him at a rodeo is 116 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: the target? Is the person they're referring to in three 117 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: counts of solicitation of murder? Absolutely I do. And you 118 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: know what, this couple was so scared that when they 119 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: heard this someone was trying to hire as somebody who 120 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: they had themselves their attorneys. They wanted to go to 121 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: the police. They just thought they'd have enough information. This 122 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: couple had so much information from their employee. They had 123 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: heard all about crystall Lee and that this man Patrick 124 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: was trying to have her kill somebody, and they did 125 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: everything they could. Their attorneys, they tried to speak with 126 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: Crystal Lee. The minute they saw Kelsey's mother on television, 127 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: they reached shout to the police and yes, I believe 128 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: that this woman, Crystal Lee, is the person that the 129 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: police are referring to. You know, this is another thing 130 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: I don't understand. Following up on what alexis terres Hut 131 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: with water online dot Com is reporting, Kathleen Murphy. If 132 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: a guy, I'm not married to him, I'm not engaged 133 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: to him, I'm not living with him, i don't have 134 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: a baby with him, and he starts talking about killing somebody, 135 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: that is the last time I'm gonna be around him. 136 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean, for Pete's sake. That's what I tell the children. 137 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: And they're just eleven. If you can believe that, I'm like, 138 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: when you're in a group and there's a bully, or 139 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: someone is saying ugly things about someone else, or someone 140 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: is misbehaving or doing something wrong or naughty. Number one, 141 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: you should protect whoever's being bullied. But if nobody's being hurt, 142 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: you just need to leave, get away. Don't be part 143 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: of that because if the teacher comes after them, they're 144 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: going to get everybody in the group. And I always 145 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: tell them the story about And of course you're gonna 146 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: love this. As a lawyer. You're in YouTube, doctor Brian, 147 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: you get caught in a stolen car and you're just 148 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: in the backseat riding along. You go to jail two. 149 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: So when this guy starts talking about I want to 150 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: kill Kelsey Barrett, why did she stay? I'll tell you why, Nancy. 151 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: And this is the God's honest truth. People are so 152 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: concerned about their appearances that she felt so insecure that 153 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: she needed a tall, dark and handsome man on her 154 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: Facebook to validate who she was. I see it all 155 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: the time. Hey, can I weigh in on this issue? Yeah? 156 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: Please do so. You know, I think this ties into 157 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: what you asked me a moment ago, which is, you know, 158 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: can someone have a mistress when they're technically not married? 159 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: When they're unmarried? And the answer, technically, as I said, 160 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: is no. But that doesn't mean that somebody who is 161 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: in a mistress like role can't feel in their own 162 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: mind as though they're married to the person. I remember, 163 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: back when Tiger Woods was caught being a serial adulterer, 164 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: Gloria Allread was on a show with me and she 165 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: was representing this woman who was one of the extramarital 166 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: affair partners who wanted to it is that Ray soul 167 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: you could tell. I don't remember who it was, but 168 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: I remember that night go ahead. At the time she 169 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: was I think she was trying to set up all Red, 170 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: was trying to set up a lawsuit, but she was 171 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: the woman at least at the time, was just demanding 172 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: through Gloria that Tiger Woods apologize for having misled this 173 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: woman allegedly to believe that she was the only one 174 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: with whom he was cheating. She was righteously indignant to 175 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: find out that she wasn't the only mistress, and she 176 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: really was a mistress in that case because Woods was married, 177 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: so it may be something like that, which was ridiculous. 178 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm going to sue this guy because 179 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: he's he's he's you know, lying to to you know, 180 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: to me about all the things he's doing with other people. 181 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: It was ridiculous, and I called Gloria all read out 182 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: on it, and I asked her on the show, I said, 183 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: has your client apologized to Tiger's wife and kids? And 184 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: Gloria of course was flabbergasted that anybody would expect that. 185 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: And that's the last I heard of that case, by 186 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: the way, But it may be something so to that 187 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: here where this woman actually felt that, you know, she 188 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: had sort of replaced the wife that maybe she met. 189 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: Maybe true, doctor Brian, But when a guy starts talking 190 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: about killing someone, that's when you need to get him 191 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: off your Facebook and move on. Patrick Frazy appeared for 192 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: his daughter's custody hearing on Thursday and made questions about 193 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: his relationship with a woman from Idaho. Law enforcement sources 194 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: said they are now looking at a thirty two year 195 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: old nurse who possibly disposed of Kelsey Bear's phone, the 196 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: last sign of life from the missing Colorado mom, who 197 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: was last seen Thanksgiving Day shopping with her one year 198 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: old daughter. The woman in question is reportedly from Twin Falls, Idaho, 199 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: not far from where Bear's phone pinged on November twenty fifth. 200 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: The Twin Falls share us off is confirming to NBC 201 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: News that they've served search warrants in the case. Some 202 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: evidence was collected and processed earlier this week. Prosecutors suggested 203 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: others could be involved. There potentially could be other people 204 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: arrested in this case. A body has yet to be 205 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: but authorities no longer believed that the twenty nine year 206 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: old is alive, Offering two theories about Barrat's death, each 207 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 1: one represented by account of first degree murder against Bearer's fiance, 208 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: Patrick Frazy. One alleges Barrett was killed deliberately, the other 209 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: alleges she died during a robbery he commissioned. Frazy also 210 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: faces three counts of solicitation to commit murder in the 211 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: month leading up to Barrat's disappearance. Court documents not giving 212 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: any details about who we approached or insight as to 213 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: why prosecutors think Frazy is responsible for his fiance's death. 214 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: You're hearing our friend at NBC. That's Steve Patterson reporting 215 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: that investigators now looking at this thirty two year old 216 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: Utah divorcee, a mother of two that apparently the killer 217 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: fiance as he has call hooked up with at a rodeo. 218 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: Did she dispose of Colorado mom Kelsey Bearra's cell phone 219 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: and if so does she know where Kelsey or her 220 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: remains are? Breaking news right now. Apparently a couple comes forward. 221 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: The mistresses best friend says he phrase, he asked the 222 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: mistress to kill the mother of his china. What does 223 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: that say about him? He's asking his girlfriend to commit murder? 224 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: Straight out to Stephen the Lampley joining us a veteran detective. 225 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley, That's what I always say. Loose lips sink ships. 226 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: If you want a job done, do it yourself. I mean, 227 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: he told the girlfriend the mistress. The mistress blabbed to 228 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: her best friend and then hey, that's just like putting 229 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: it on the speaker, you know, Jesse, you might as 230 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: well just put it take out an ad on Third 231 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: Avenue in Manhattan. I solicited murder. That's how that works. 232 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley, Well, that's true. I mean I've always heard 233 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: the phrase, what three you know? Everybody knows, and he's 234 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: not the brightest kitty, not the sharpest mike and the 235 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: jordanancy you run around and tell anybody when when you 236 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: start running your mouth. That's what gets most culprits. That's 237 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: why it gets most perpetrators, is the police waiting for 238 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: somebody to run their mouth and running and take care 239 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: of not just the emergence of this couple who apparently 240 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: calls the FBI with information regarding the disappearance of Kelsey 241 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: Bareth after they allegedly learn about Frasi's plot to kill 242 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: the mother of his baby girl. We also learned that 243 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 1: remains were discovered near the town of Aglare. What do 244 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: we know about that? Out to you, Ellen, colorin Crime 245 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: online dot Com investigative reporter, what do you know about 246 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: those remains? Where we and Hawaii. For a little while, 247 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: there were some speculation that remains found at an abandoned 248 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: truck stop may have been connected to the Barrett murder 249 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: investigation because it was only about one hundred and thirty 250 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: miles from Woodland Park, where she lived. But that is 251 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: not the case. The remains have been identified as another 252 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: missing woman in Colorado. It has not been connected to 253 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: Kelsey Berth in anyway. So we know now that those 254 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: remains that were found near Aglare are not Kelsey Barreth. 255 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: It's interesting how they determined that so very quickly. Take 256 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: a listen to our friend at km VT. Since we 257 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: first broke the story about Crystal being investigated by the 258 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: FBI and Colorado Bureau of Investigations. Her friends have reached 259 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: out to us to say they don't believe she's capable 260 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: of harm. What I hope comes up at this is 261 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: it the truth? You know above all else, It's the truth, 262 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: and I don't want to see Crystel portrayed as a monster. 263 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: The truth always prevails and hopefully and her name can 264 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: be cleared. That's my hope. However, most of those friends 265 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: are afraid of doing an interview on camera for fear 266 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: of backlash from the community. Kavt confirmed that the thirty 267 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: two year old Saint Luke's nurse is on the leave 268 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: of absence from the hospital. Court records also indicate she 269 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: got divorced in twenty sixteen. They have two children, a 270 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: son and a daughter. As a well involved member of 271 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: the community, the impact is felt both far and wide. 272 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: Knowing Crystel the way that I do, and as level 273 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: headed in his ground as she is, I really have 274 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: a difficult time believing that in just a short period 275 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: of time she could go from you know, an angel 276 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: to a monster and that is not Crystal. For those 277 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: close to Crystal, their love and support will never change. 278 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: Oh I will always stand behind Crystal. I believe in 279 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: her with all my heart. You are hearing km VT 280 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: reporter Kelsey Soto talking with a closer Rodeo friend. I'm 281 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: nurse Crystal Lee, the woman allegedly involved with a killer fiancee. 282 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: Now what I find also interesting to Alexis tres check 283 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: Right online dot Com investigative reporter is that when the 284 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: best friend went back and spoke to Crystall Lee about 285 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: it about coming forward, she say just forget it, forget 286 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: the whole thing. She wished she hadn't said anything. She 287 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: wanted to keep the murder plot secret. Alexis she did. 288 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: This happened in October when she told her best friend 289 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: that Patrick was trying to hire her to kill his 290 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: baby mama. Thank Kelsey's missing just weeks later on Thanksgiving, 291 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: the last time you see her life. The only evidence 292 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: that has any connection to Kelsey being alive after Thanksgiving 293 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: is a ping on her cell phone that happened in Idaho. 294 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: We are trying to connect the dots and to Stephen Lampley, 295 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: veteran detective. We know that Phrasey, the killer fiancee, did 296 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: not leave the Colorado jurisdiction after the time Kelsey went missing. 297 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: We know her phone pinged near the girlfriends near the 298 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: mistress in Idaho. Can't find Kelsey's body. What do you think, 299 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley? Did the girlfriend the alleged girlfriend not only 300 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: get rid of the phone, but is there a chance 301 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: she also disposed of the body. That's a good chance. 302 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: We get six hundred miles Nancy from where a girlfriend 303 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: or whatever lived, and then six hundred miles from the 304 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: phone ping, So there's a lot of teck joy to cover. 305 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: This woman could be anywhere, really, and especially between those 306 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: two points. I mean, let's think through let's think through 307 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: human nature. Doctor Brian Russell, host of id's Fatal Vows series, 308 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: Doctor Brian, if he would, and again, this woman has 309 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: not been charged. This is just what we were learning 310 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: about the investigation. And according to this couple, phrasie Get 311 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: asked her to kill Kelsey, the mother of his little girl. 312 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,959 Speaker 1: Doctor Brian, if he would ask her to kill Kelsey, 313 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: would he ask her to dispose of the body. Well, 314 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: it seems clear to me that if somebody's willing to 315 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: ask another person to help them with something, you know, 316 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: much more severe, as so severe as a murder, they 317 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't have any problem asking them to help them with 318 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: something less severe, like a disposal of a body. And 319 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: as we have been talking here about, you know, why 320 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: might somebody not run for the hills as soon as 321 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: they realize that they're dating somebody who is, you know, 322 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: if not married, deeply involved with somebody else and has 323 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: a child and everything, and then on top of that, 324 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: wants them to participate in eliminating that other person. Maybe 325 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: one of the things that I thought of is, remember 326 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: back when Scott Peterson was caught and charged with murdering 327 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: his pregnant wife and child and the woman that he 328 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: had been dating, whom he had misled to think he 329 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: was a single. Guy couldn't come out of the woodwork 330 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: fast enough and go, oh my god, I feel so horrible, 331 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: so guilty. I was misled, I thought he was single. 332 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: Let me give you all the information that I can, 333 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: and felt just awful about being caught up in that 334 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: in any way whatsoever. Whereas here you've got somebody who apparently, 335 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: you know, was clearly aware of this guy's other relationship 336 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: and being a dad and all that, and then here 337 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: he comes and he's wanting her to help him to 338 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: kill his baby mom. And this woman is not running 339 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: for the hills, running to the cops, trying to help out, 340 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: And you think, well, what must be going on in 341 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: her mind? And one of the things that I think 342 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: might have been going on is she may have whipped 343 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: up in her mind kind of like that woman that 344 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: was thinking she was Tiger Woods's only mistress, did that 345 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: she's almost a wife to this guy, and maybe whipped 346 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: up into her mind that it's flattering that he wants 347 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: to eliminate this other woman so that he and her 348 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: can be together and raise his child or something. I 349 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: means as sick as that sounds, that people can whip 350 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: their minds up into things like that. 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Go to truthfinder dot 367 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: com forward slash Nancy right away to start searching truthfinder 368 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: dot com forward slash Nancy truthfinder dot com forward slash Nancy. 369 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: Find the truth crime stories with Nancy Grace. This is 370 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: Ambert Parker, and I want to tell you about the 371 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: most beautiful time of my life. Its fark. A man 372 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: named yusefh Dirky says he created this video of Parker's 373 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: visit and says she came for love, not for trafficking, 374 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: and I love this man for the ter stars and 375 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: all heads. However, in another twist, Parker has a husband intigue. 376 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 1: According to documents, mister Parker says a year ago his 377 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: wife told him she was going to become a member 378 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: of a cult called WICCA. He says she created a 379 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: fake Facebook page to secretly communicate with strange men associated 380 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: with the organization. We found the profile where Parker disguises 381 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: herself as Zoey Singer. One photo posted says, don't try 382 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: to figure me out. I'm a special kind of twisted, 383 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: and another as a witch. I have three sides, the 384 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: quiet and sweet side, the fun and crazy side, and 385 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: the side you never want to see. Well, I wish 386 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: she had kept that side to herself. A Texas teacher 387 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: allegedly trying to sell a little girl dressed in lingerie 388 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 1: on line for sex in Morocco. A Texas teacher Amber 389 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: Michelle Parker. I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime Stories. Thank 390 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: you for being with us. You know what, every day 391 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: I draw up the twins off at school because I 392 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: love their teacher. I love her. I guess that's what 393 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: all the other moms thought in this class a text. 394 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: This teacher goes online, dresses a little girl up in 395 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: lingerie and tries to sell her for sex with men 396 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: in Morocco. This is a junior high school teacher in 397 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: Central Texas. I want to go straight out to Alan, 398 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: joining us from La Allen. It's it's a little more 399 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: than I can take in. They're right right under our noses. 400 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: They're in Freestone County. The junior high school teacher trying 401 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: to sell a little girl dressed in lingerie online. What well, 402 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: and she teaches reading that. I mean, that's her. And 403 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: it's a small town. I mean, everybody knew this woman. 404 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: She could not hide. There are only eight thousand people 405 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: in this little town. I'm looking at the school. It's Mahea, Mahea, 406 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 1: Texas Mahea. I'm looking at the schools her page on 407 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: the school's website. I don't know if you've seen this picture, 408 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: but she just looks like a reading teacher, an eighth 409 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: grade reading teacher, and not a sex trafficker trying to 410 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: send a little girl to Morocco. This is really shocking. 411 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: And by the way, I might add that January eleventh 412 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: is Human Trafficking Day in the USA, and I'm so 413 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: glad we're calling attention to this because, as we always say, 414 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: human trafficking is next door to you and in every 415 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: small town, including this little one in Texas. You know, 416 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: it's just more than I can take in. This eighth 417 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: grade reading teacher, age thirty seven, trying to sell an 418 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: underage girl into sex slavery in Morocco, even posting lurid 419 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: photos of the little girl online. I'm talking about Amber 420 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: Michelle Parker. Amber Michelle Parker, an eighth grade reading teacher, 421 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: accused of conspiring to lure the child to Morocco so 422 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: she Amber Michelle Parker can sell her to man after 423 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: man after man. It's apparent that she posted photos online 424 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: of the little girl exposing her chest. Now, Amber Michel Parker, 425 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: the eighth grade reading teacher, traveled to Morocco alone in December. 426 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: And what you were hearing earlier, let's take a listen 427 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: to that again, Jackie. You hear her talking about her 428 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: trip to Morocco for love and what a wonderful, loving 429 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: experience it was. She was paving the way to sex 430 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: traffic a little girl. Listen to her again. This is 431 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: Amber Parker, and I want to tell you about the 432 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: most beautiful time of my life. Is farther. A man 433 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: named yusefh Dirky says he created this video of Parker's 434 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: visit and says she came for love, not for trafficking, 435 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: and I love this man more than their stars in 436 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: all their heads However, in another twist, Parker has a 437 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: husband intigue. According to documents, mister Parker says a year ago, 438 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: his wife told him she was going to become a 439 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: member of a cult called Wicca. He says she created 440 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: a fake Facebook page to secretly communicate with strange men 441 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: associated with the organization. We found the profile where Parker 442 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: disguises herself as Zoey Singer. One photo posted says, don't 443 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: try to figure me out. I'm a special kind of twisted, 444 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 1: and another as a witch. I have three sides, the 445 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: quiet and sweet side, the fun and crazy side, and 446 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: the side you never want to see. Yeah, I wish 447 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: I had never seen it. But sadly we are joining 448 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: me Doctor Bethany Marshall, renowned LA psychoanalyst, Karen Smith, forensics expert, 449 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: joining us out of the Florida jurisdiction, Atlanta felony prosecutor 450 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: Kenya Johnson. Of course, Alan joining me from LA in 451 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: the studio and here in our studio, Jackie Howard, I 452 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: want to go to doctor Bethany Marshall, you know, like Alan. 453 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm looking at our pictures right now and she looks like, 454 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: you know, some wholesome mom that just pulled a dozen 455 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: chocolate chip cookies out of the oven raw, according to 456 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: the sheriff, their Freestone County Sheriff Jay Shipley, He says, quote, 457 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: she was online talking to multiple guys in Morocco, trying 458 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: to get it set up for she could take her 459 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: the little girl over there with her to them. Wisely, 460 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: detectives obtained a search warrant for all of Ambramschell Parker's 461 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: electronic devices. But let me get to the forensics in 462 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: just a moment, and then I'll follow up with the 463 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: legal angle with Kenyan Johnson. Dr Bethany Marshall, this is 464 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: an eighth grade reading teacher, What in the h E 465 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: double L is going on in her head? Okay? So 466 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: an aspect of sex trafficking that I think is little known, 467 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: and we see this unfolding in abusive households across the 468 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: nation is women who give up their own children or 469 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: younger female relatives to men, not necessarily for money, but 470 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: because they're using the children as bait to get the 471 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: affection of the man. So we think of sex trafficking 472 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: as motivated by money, but sometimes it's motivated by a 473 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: narcissistic need for attention or to exploit the child to 474 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: get access to other men. And one when I've read 475 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: this story, I was wondering if this woman is one 476 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: of these attention hungry, personality disordered women who will do 477 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: anything to get the attention of men. She goes to 478 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: another country, almost like a sex tourist. We see men 479 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: do this often go to third world country so they 480 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: can have access to people who are in more vulnerable positions. 481 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: She goes there and she offers up her own niece 482 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: in order to get access to these men. Now, the 483 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: side benefit is she's going to get paid, right, she 484 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 1: gets all these new relationships. She feels like important in 485 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: that society, but it's at the cost of her own child. 486 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: But don't think that this just happens in sex trafficking cases. 487 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: This happens on a mundane level in many households. You 488 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: see sometimes mothers who will maybe date or marry a 489 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: pedophile or somebody who has lured interest in their own 490 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: child because they think that the child will be like 491 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: the bait for the man. And that's just what That's 492 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: an aspect of this story. I keep wondering about an 493 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: eighth grade reading teacher thirty seven years old, is now 494 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: a suspect trying to sell her underage relative into sex 495 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: slavery in Morocco, posting lurid photos of the little girl 496 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: online dressed in lingerie with her chest exposed. If you 497 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: have children listening right now, please send them out of 498 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: the room. I'm giving you a teen count warning, okay, 499 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: because I'm about to read what we have obtained in 500 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: the sheriff's warrant. Again. If you have a child around 501 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: you right now, please send them out of the room. 502 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: The sheriff's warrant that we have obtained, states set Amber 503 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: Michelle Parker. This is found pursue it to search warrant 504 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: on her electronic devices. Quote talking about the little girl, 505 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: she the little girl wants to peel your uniform off 506 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: of you, cuffew and lick your abs. Okay. Then she 507 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: goes on to discuss with the two men there in 508 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: Morocco about flying to the US to have relations with 509 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: both her and the minor girl. This eighth grade reading 510 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: teacher goes on to tell the men online how old 511 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: the little girl is and that she is a virgin. 512 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: Soon after, the men begin trying to have Parker and 513 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: the minor girl travel to Casablanca, Morocco. This is according 514 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: to the warrant, and they're reading it straight off everything 515 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: Amber Michelle Parker was typing. They say that while mom 516 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: between the conversations, the more photos were sent to the men. 517 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: All of this is being orchestrated by this teacher. That 518 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: Parker had coached the little girl to take these photos, 519 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,719 Speaker 1: telling her what positions to be in, what parts of 520 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: her body to expose. It goes on and on and on, 521 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: and this is all obtained through search wants for electronic devices. Now, 522 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: the McLennan County Sheriff Parnell McNamara says they have been 523 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: watching Parker for some time before they obtained all this information. 524 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: You know, I want to go to Karen Smith or 525 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: NSC's expert. What do you have to do in order 526 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: to dig up all of this electronic information. It's like 527 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: leaving a path a mile wide for the police, it 528 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: sure is. And you know, family members were the people 529 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: who tipped off the police that something was amiss. So 530 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: once they had that information and they found this secret 531 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: Facebook page that Parker had created, that started the ball rolling. 532 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: Once they started finding all of that public information, they 533 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: could get the search warrant and then do that deep 534 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: dive into her data, see that big footprint she was leaving. 535 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: Find out all of the information on likely her cell phones. 536 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: We listen, we live and die with our electronic devices. 537 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: I don't go anywhere without my cell phone, and likely 538 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: she didn't either. It wasn't just her laptop or home computer. 539 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: She was doing this stuff remotely. She was doing it 540 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: on her cell phone. So all of that information is 541 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: coming into play and they're going to bring it all 542 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: into court and it's going to tell the entire disgusting, 543 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: despicable story. According to warrants we have obtained from police, 544 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: Mahia teacher teaching eighth grade reading tales, trafficking victim, how 545 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: she should pose from me and on line, I mean, 546 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: doctor Bethany, let me come back to you on how 547 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: that's going to affect this little girl the rest of 548 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: her life. But to Kenya Johnson more urgently, felony prosecutor 549 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: in the Atlanta jurisdiction, what charges can be leveled against 550 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: this reading teach or Ambra Michelle Parker, you know it's 551 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: gonna there's so many unanswered questions to decide all the charges. 552 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: But right now we're looking at sexual exploitation. We're looking 553 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: at a sexual battery, depending upon how the young lady 554 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 1: was positioned for the pictures. I've persecuted child molestation cases before, 555 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: and I've seen pictures of child pornography and the looks, 556 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: the hollow looks in the little girl's faces as they're 557 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: eight and nine and made to look sexy in suggested poses. 558 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: It's just haunting. And I'll never forget what those look like. 559 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: And I can only imagine what those young ladies feel 560 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: like having to pose and such such suggestive poses. And 561 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: so a lots of more questions to be asked for 562 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: right now, we're already looking and law enforcement should be 563 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: looking at what's going on with the young lady's life 564 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 1: right now? Is she already being abused? This may only 565 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: be the tip of the iceberg. Has she already encountered 566 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: sexual exploitation? And so those are some of the questions 567 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: that we'd be asking to formulate all the charges to 568 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: charge you with it. To doctor Bethany Marshall, I remember 569 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 1: the first time. I well, I prosecuted so many child 570 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: molestation cases, but I remember some of my first ones. Wait, 571 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: hold on, I remember my first one that I took 572 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: the trial, and it was the father that been molesting 573 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: the little girl. And this hollow look in the eyes 574 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: of the little victims. I saw it then, but just 575 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: as a trial lawyer, I didn't saw it. I noticed it, 576 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: but I didn't know what it meant. That hollow look 577 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: that Kenyan Johnson's describing. What is that, Well, the hollow 578 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 1: look is that they're very dissociated or disconnected from themselves, 579 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: that they can't even bear to be in their own bodies. 580 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: And we know that sexual child sexual abuse is the 581 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: one type of trauma that, even when it's only perpetrated 582 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: once against a child, scars the child for the rest 583 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: of their life. A child can be beaten, a child 584 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: can be starved, left on the school steps not picked up. 585 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: All kinds of other trauma usually takes multiple incidents to 586 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: affect a child, but child sexual abuse, one incident changes 587 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: the psychology, the physiology, the psyche of a child permanently, 588 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: even resilient children. So that hollow look, I think it's 589 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: talk And i'd a layer to this. That wasn't this 590 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: teacher of female relatives. So this is somebody with whom 591 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: she had a trusted relationship, who was exploiting her that's 592 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: a whole other layer of trauma right there, and it's 593 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 1: something that goes with you for the rest of your life. 594 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 1: And as jarry and upsetting as this is, the little 595 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: girl was saved by the local sheriffs. She was taken 596 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: away before she got sent to Morocco to be with 597 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 1: all of these men that the school teacher was setting 598 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: up to Alan Duke joining me from La Alan. That's 599 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: the thing about trafficking. We always think of it, you know, 600 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 1: as some guys from some other country kidnapping people taking 601 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: them away. It's not like that. It's happening right under 602 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 1: our noses. Yes, I know we've done these shows, we've 603 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: done these interviews, but we've also seen it up close. 604 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: It's in every small town you're reporting, my reporting, we've 605 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: seen the tragic situations to where the shops in town 606 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: are being staffed by people who are not there under 607 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: their own will. It's not just sex trafficking. It's people 608 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: being forced into labor, passports, taken smuggled into the country. 609 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: It's a huge problem. Here in Los Angeles where I 610 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: am right now, there are thousands of people who are 611 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: considered to be slaves. And you know what, not just la, 612 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: but all over the US, it's happening in this time. 613 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: It was an eighth grade reading teacher. Listen to our 614 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: friend at KWTXTV, this is ESA show foursomes, provocative photo exchanges, witchcraft. 615 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: Details of a Freestone County human trafficking case are revealed. 616 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 1: Thirty seven year old Amber Parker, an eighth grade reading 617 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: teacher at Mahead, resigned Thursday in connection with an alleged 618 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: sent back in November involving her underage female relative. According 619 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: to the affidavit obtained by Kubutx, Parker was sending sexual 620 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: three way messages to two Moroccan men on behalf of 621 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: the victim. Police say Parker talks about the men flying 622 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 1: to the US to have sex with both her and 623 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: the victim. While the men suggests the females come to Casablanca. 624 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: Parker provides the victim's age, marketing her as a virgin. 625 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: According to the affidavit. Then Parker takes and sends semi 626 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: nude photos of the victim, even directing her on poses 627 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 1: to quote keep the male interested in her Nancy Grace 628 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: crime stories, signing off goodbye friend,