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<v Speaker 1>Hell I Suck at Dating with Dean, Vanessa and Jared

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart Radio Podcast. Hello, Hello, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for joining us on another episode of Help I

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<v Speaker 1>Suck at Dating. My name is Dean Anglert and I

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<v Speaker 1>am alone without my co host today in studio, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>joined in studio by the producers Mark Easton are Lovely Tory.

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<v Speaker 1>Danielle is over there without a microphone. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>she's gonna be tuning in at all. But we've got

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<v Speaker 1>a very special episode for you guys this week. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>we have Bachelor in Paradise airing. Obviously I am on

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<v Speaker 1>that show, so we might as well talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about that, uh, Tory who always has the most

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<v Speaker 1>interesting dating dilemmas. I don't know exactly why, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna dive into your dating life a little bit. Not

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<v Speaker 1>not why we're going to dive into, but why you

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<v Speaker 1>always have the most interesting dating dilemmas. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's very interesting. I think you make them interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>you always think you're not on a date, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>you suck at dating. I think you just overthink everything. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to that dive into that a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>with you later on. Um, we might call Jared, who's

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<v Speaker 1>on his honeymoon somewhere in Greece, but we probably won't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to. It may not be happening because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a plane right now. Oh, I see, okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's land in time. Where's Vanessa? Where is Vanessa Robo?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I did see that they a wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe they're looking amazing at that wedding too. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>don't looking amazing. I just have to say Dean that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm critical of your appearance sometimes all the time. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like to be honest. It's working today, it's really working.

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<v Speaker 1>Dean's got a what kind of ad is that? What

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<v Speaker 1>would you call that? It's a bucket hat? I would suppose, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like an out bad hat. Yeah, it's got

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<v Speaker 1>the rim all the way around. I need something like

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<v Speaker 1>that for hiking. Anyway. He's got longer hair that looks good.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a tan going on, he's clean shaven. It's

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<v Speaker 1>working for me, and I think the viewers of the

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor in Paradise reunion are in for a real treat. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>So I just got back from Croatia, so I'm sporting

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<v Speaker 1>a nice bronze tan and uh clean shaven. We actually

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<v Speaker 1>have our we're filming our Bachelor in Paradise reunion showed,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I wanted to go in with a clean

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<v Speaker 1>shaven look. I'm pretty fortunate to just be gott have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten back from Croatian might be nice and tan I

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<v Speaker 1>am now. I have not bought an outfit yet. My

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<v Speaker 1>car picks me up in about three hours and uh sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Jojo just attracted me over there. Car picks me up

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<v Speaker 1>about three hours after I get off this podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't even gone to the store to buy anything. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't own dress clothes, which is what you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be wearing at these reunions. Right, what have you

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<v Speaker 1>warned to previous your reunions like suits and dressures? You

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<v Speaker 1>don't know to suit anymore? No, I threw them all

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<v Speaker 1>away when I moved into it. So this is my plan,

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<v Speaker 1>and let me actually let me question the ethics on this,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is what I'm gonna do with whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>ethical or unethical, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>to Nordstrom, buy a nice suits, by a nice shirt,

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<v Speaker 1>by a nice bow tie, maybe wear a bolo tie

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly yet, keep the tags on where,

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<v Speaker 1>and then just return it the next day. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that is ethical. Is that really unethical? I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's bad. I think that's borderline theft. The first person

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<v Speaker 1>to have ever done that, though I've done it before. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we haven't talked about it publicly on podcast, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't love it. I feel like, plus,

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<v Speaker 1>you're using it on television, that's an actual level of theft.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. So I've done it before on for the

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<v Speaker 1>tel for reunion show like that. I think for the

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<v Speaker 1>Winter Games reunion, I die police suit jacket. What the

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<v Speaker 1>do I need a nine suit jacket for? So? I

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<v Speaker 1>wore it looked amazing. I brought it back to the

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<v Speaker 1>same Nord show and I was so scared that they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to recognize me and be like, wait a second,

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<v Speaker 1>we know what you're doing right now, but a jacket.

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<v Speaker 1>How did they police that? Because yeah, Jack is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to get all sweating necessary, You've got a shirt

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<v Speaker 1>on in between, and possibly even an undershirt, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>what's why does that become unethical? Then to wear the

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<v Speaker 1>jacket when it's just gonna be dry clean and put

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<v Speaker 1>right back up on. That's the one door just pulled

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<v Speaker 1>it up. That's oh sure, that's a red huh. The

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<v Speaker 1>American TI it was yeah, because we were it was

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<v Speaker 1>like the Olympics theme, Got it, got it? When you

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<v Speaker 1>were doing the was his mentel all from Rachel Lindsay season.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a Ran Secret Distinction jacket. Is for the

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<v Speaker 1>Mental Olive War Ryan Secret Distinction Jacket. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>a hit. I remember he gave me two jackets, well

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<v Speaker 1>Amy threw him. Gave me two jackets, right. One of

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<v Speaker 1>them was like this like pretty plain gray with like

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<v Speaker 1>a black lapel, and then there was this camera one

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<v Speaker 1>which she was not going to wear the like obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the camera is a little bit more out there. And

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<v Speaker 1>I took a poll on my Twitter. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>which one of these jackets should I wear? And by

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<v Speaker 1>a landslide the gray one one. It was like not

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<v Speaker 1>even to five percent the gray jacket one, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, obviously I'm going to wear the one

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't win the pole. And I really appreciate the look.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it looks good. Um, what are we talking about? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, when you said that you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>record for Bachelor in Paradise the reunion. My stomach turned.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stressed. Okay, so we are three weeks into Paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're four maybe four four weeks. We're Oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right for this is the week week four Paradise.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you stressed? Oh my gosh, Dean tell me

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<v Speaker 1>the birthday cake, the reassuring Kalin we're together, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you pull her aside after the rose ceremony, and now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just left on a cliff hanger. What did you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you haven't seen Tuesday's episode yet? Well, we can't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not to say yet. You're right, and so you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see what happens tomorrow. But you're saying you're

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<v Speaker 1>not confident in what's gonna unfold. Is that what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like stressed that you may have to see Klin tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean, oh, at the reunion show? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't know how this is going to end,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm guessing from your track record it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to end the best. And I'm sick. I'm sorry, but

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<v Speaker 1>my stomach is turning. I will say it was funny

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<v Speaker 1>that you texted me when you were watching this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>because like you obviously know how everything's gonna turn out,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you're like, Dn, I'm stressed out right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going on. And I was like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>just wait, because it's probably gonna get a little bit worse.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you did so that. He said, Oh, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a bummer because it's probably gonna get worse for you something,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, my heart can't handle this

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<v Speaker 1>on a Saturday. It's like that Batman quote, it's always

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<v Speaker 1>darkest just before the dawn. But let me assure you,

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<v Speaker 1>the dawn is coming and things are gonna get a up, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe get a lot brighter. We'll see. Anyways, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more going on in Paradise besides me and my

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<v Speaker 1>stupid antick. Right, yeah, but we'll get back to that,

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<v Speaker 1>back to my antick. Yeah, I still need to know more, Okay, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm happy to fill you in as much

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<v Speaker 1>as they can. Okay. By the way, that quote is

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<v Speaker 1>from Thomas Fuller from Batman. I'm just saying it goes

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<v Speaker 1>back a long way. Okay, Well, thank you for the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when they do um, like around the horn

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. At the very end, they do

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<v Speaker 1>all the things that they got wrong. That's basically what

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<v Speaker 1>you're fact checking as you go. That's that's great. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much, um Tory. What other storylines from Bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>Paradise are you most interested in right now? Well? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what? I'm so confused and I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to know more of Why don't we see any of

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<v Speaker 1>Mike and Sydney's love story? Like they keep doing like

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<v Speaker 1>cartwheels on the beach and that's all we get. We

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<v Speaker 1>see no dialogue between the two, no dialogue, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they get the rose and it's like solidified. Everyone knows

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe they're just not that much like drama developing

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<v Speaker 1>between them? Are they actually in love? Like I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I could be more attached to them, but I'm not,

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<v Speaker 1>um knowing both of them personally, they have like conflicting personalities,

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<v Speaker 1>not a bad way, but you know, to trap sometime. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that they were just like a slow

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<v Speaker 1>moving couple of Sydney I know in past relationships has

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<v Speaker 1>moved really slowly, and Mike is like kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that like, you know, he's I don't know, he

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<v Speaker 1>like reads like erotic novels, and he's like into that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff, say, erotic novels. You saw him read

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<v Speaker 1>an erotic novel on the beach. He brought an erotic

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<v Speaker 1>novel to the beach, which is fine, Like that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly fine. Wait a minute, what are we talking about here,

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<v Speaker 1>like fifty Shades or like one of those Harlequin romances

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<v Speaker 1>with the shirtless guy on the front. Let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this. If you went to a bookstore, would you

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<v Speaker 1>find fifty Shades of Gray and the erotic novel section?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you find it in the romance section? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>think fifty Shades more romance than erotic. Couldn't like Twilight

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<v Speaker 1>almost be It could be, of course, but that's a

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<v Speaker 1>book that you'd also find like drama or sci fi

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<v Speaker 1>or romance. So would young adult be kind of associated

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<v Speaker 1>with that thing that's separate. I'm saying there is a

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<v Speaker 1>section in every bookstore that goes by erotic novel and

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<v Speaker 1>none of those are going to be bestsellers quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>like uh, fifty Shades or like a Twilight. These are

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<v Speaker 1>more graphic than those other ones. Again, I didn't read

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<v Speaker 1>the book. I saw the cover do you have an author?

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I had the photographic. I'm ready to pull

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<v Speaker 1>it back. It was just it wasn't erotic novel. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I don't want to make a bigger deal out

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<v Speaker 1>of it because I feel bad. But were the nude

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<v Speaker 1>people on the cover of the book. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>a hot and sensual like still of I will say

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<v Speaker 1>I had recently got one of these about a cowboy,

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<v Speaker 1>and they look like just like kind of normal, like

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<v Speaker 1>sexy book on the cover, but if you read them,

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<v Speaker 1>those things get very graphic. Oh my god, I'm giving

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<v Speaker 1>a target. I will say I read this book once

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<v Speaker 1>when I was like nineteen years old. It's like the

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<v Speaker 1>first novel I ever read, like willingly not like not

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<v Speaker 1>a was was signed by school. I was not much of

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<v Speaker 1>a reader when I was a kid, mind you, And

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was a stupid book. It was called

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<v Speaker 1>The Game by Neil Strauss, which is just like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you guys know who Neil Strouss is. It's basically

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<v Speaker 1>a book, like a fictional book about how to go

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<v Speaker 1>and pick up women and heard of this and like

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<v Speaker 1>how these guys go out and like these magic tricks

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<v Speaker 1>and peacock and Negan all these things to get women

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<v Speaker 1>to cook up with them. Horrible book. This is I

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<v Speaker 1>was meaning so much about teen years old. I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get it. It was referred to me by

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<v Speaker 1>a friend. Um. Anyways, the point is I was reading

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<v Speaker 1>it one day when I was at work as a

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<v Speaker 1>bellman out of hotels. I'm standing moving around, but I

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<v Speaker 1>had some downtime, so I was reading it and they

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<v Speaker 1>got graphic with one of the scenes, like one of

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<v Speaker 1>the physical scenes that they had, and I was like

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<v Speaker 1>reading and I was like, holy cow, this is getting

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<v Speaker 1>hot and heavy, Like I started to feel parts on

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<v Speaker 1>me tangle that I didn't want to have tingling while

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<v Speaker 1>I was working. And I can only imagine if there

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<v Speaker 1>was a book dedicated to eroticism, I would be just

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<v Speaker 1>losing my absolute mind the entire time. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, because I've got a very vivid imagination. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is what Mike redlect through it on the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, back to the original point. Yes he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was, And again no disrespect like obviously you know

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<v Speaker 1>you do. You get tre kicks however you can. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying the the dichotomy between him and Sydney

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<v Speaker 1>is like he was this guy that that read those books,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sydney is like a very reserve conservative woman who

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<v Speaker 1>like dates very slowly, take some time to even kiss someone.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm wondering, like if maybe the relationship blossoms

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<v Speaker 1>later on in the series. And I'm sorry in the

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<v Speaker 1>season because it just like hasn't necessarily got to that

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<v Speaker 1>point yet. But so yes and tweach their own and

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<v Speaker 1>good for him. But if you're a woman and you'd

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<v Speaker 1>find this out about a new guy you're seeing, is

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<v Speaker 1>that a red flag that he reads erotic novels? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask that about you. Would it

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<v Speaker 1>be weird if somebody who's reading like A Fifty Shades

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<v Speaker 1>of Gray, because that's very no because everybody read that,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's still very like explicit points. Yeah, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>different because guys like women who are into that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, that would be a plus. I think for

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<v Speaker 1>a man wouldn't. Really, I don't know, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>I think it goes both ways. I actually have dated

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<v Speaker 1>a girl in the past where she was like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of into that stuff a lot, and person I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty cool with them. By like a little later on,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like well, is that cool? I don't know anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of second guessing it. Wait, she was into

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<v Speaker 1>the like the stuff that they talk about in fifty

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<v Speaker 1>Shades or just she was into books like that, into

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<v Speaker 1>the books like that. Okay, yeah all right, now yeah

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<v Speaker 1>yeah no, because that that's that's a red flag girl

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<v Speaker 1>takes you home and shows you her leather strap collection.

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<v Speaker 1>That can be intimidating. It would be fun for like

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<v Speaker 1>a short amount of time, and you'd be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>actually turning out to be a personality trade, not just

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<v Speaker 1>like a off sort of thing. You know. It's better

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<v Speaker 1>than if he has like a subscription to Hustler magazine,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it wouldn't it be a step above that? I

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<v Speaker 1>do agree with that Hustler Magazine is like a hardcore playboy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I don't know what that is. Then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're a porn collection, Like I feel like erotic novels

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<v Speaker 1>are a step up from those things. You're still getting

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<v Speaker 1>like your literature, and that's only positive, I guess, But

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<v Speaker 1>your vocabulary is expanding in a very different Enuni you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying they're all kind of in the same bubble. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta think that. I bet you dirty talk is off

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<v Speaker 1>the charts, though, no, he would be very well versed in.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at his Twitter, he says that he

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<v Speaker 1>has some funny tweets to Mike where he goes. He goes, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to pull someth I'm gonna pull some tweets

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<v Speaker 1>up real quick. Let's take a Let's take a before

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<v Speaker 1>slash Dean. Okay, So during that break I was able

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<v Speaker 1>to find one tweet. I thought there were more. There

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<v Speaker 1>might be some buried down there, but he said, he

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<v Speaker 1>tweets I want to text someone freaky things every now

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<v Speaker 1>and then shruggy emoji. It isn't bad, but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>that's is that something you should be tweeting? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that hurts his chances at all? The fact that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have really a storyline with him or he's

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<v Speaker 1>like tweeting these things. Do you think that means he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably not gonna be the Bachelor because we're not really

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<v Speaker 1>attached to his storyline. People were excited about him as

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<v Speaker 1>a popular bat and Nick, we were like attached to

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<v Speaker 1>their storyline. We were feeling every motion they were, and

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<v Speaker 1>we don't. We don't really have that with Mike. He

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of moving behind the scenes this season, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder, I mean, you're right, you don't really see

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<v Speaker 1>it bachelor get plucked out of Paradise unless they're like

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<v Speaker 1>a polarizing figure from that season, and doesn't seem like

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<v Speaker 1>Mike really is that figure. This doesn't. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>Derek could be the Bachelor? I personally don't think he

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<v Speaker 1>could be, but I see a lot of people pulling

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<v Speaker 1>for him to be the Bachelor. I don't think he

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<v Speaker 1>has the ability to like command a room as a

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<v Speaker 1>bachelor should like. I don't think he's gonna like walk

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<v Speaker 1>into a room full of thirty women, and all those

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<v Speaker 1>thirty women are gonna be like, damn, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>date this guy, you know what I mean. Although, to

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<v Speaker 1>to rebuttal my own point, I have gotten a few

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<v Speaker 1>texts over the past like four days alone from like

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<v Speaker 1>three different my girlfriends, and they all have been asking

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<v Speaker 1>me to set them up with Derek. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>say when they say that? I say, he is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to date someone on television right now, so let's give

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<v Speaker 1>the guy a little bit of space. And I also

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<v Speaker 1>say that, uh, I don't know, like I don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not good enough friends with Derek to be like, okay, cool, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let me let me connect you too. Do you like

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<v Speaker 1>setting your friends up? No? Why? Actually, so, I just

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<v Speaker 1>spent like I said earlier, I just spent a week

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<v Speaker 1>in Croatia. Yeah, Dose boys were cute. Yeah, Ludo and

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<v Speaker 1>Law are very cute. What are you guy talking about

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<v Speaker 1>over there? I was just trying to figure out who

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<v Speaker 1>that one is. You're talking about the Derek Wolf today,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know he went out with Steph has now

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<v Speaker 1>expressed interest in Derek and so, And I'll be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>down on that beach, I thought that Tasha and Derek

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<v Speaker 1>were a good match because Derek is like a mature,

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<v Speaker 1>well put together gentleman. Tassia is I feel like she's

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<v Speaker 1>looking for someone like that, And so like the Tastia

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<v Speaker 1>JPJ dynamic was a little different, and then the Tastia

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<v Speaker 1>Derek dynamic just made a lot more sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>People like, there are you on the Derek train, Tory,

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<v Speaker 1>I do like Derek. I don't think you might be

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<v Speaker 1>wrong about Derek. I think he might be commanding. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I don't think he commands around. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>I dislike Derek but you like him. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>I just like Derek by any means. He's a nice guy. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he when he eventually finds his person,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to be a great match that person. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't think that, Like I said earlier, there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be thirty women like salivating standing at a at a

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<v Speaker 1>rose ceremony, like damn, please give me a rose, Please

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<v Speaker 1>give me a rose. I like, I want to end

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<v Speaker 1>up with you like they would with like a Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>C or like a Peter the Pilot, or even like

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<v Speaker 1>to an extent, you think Pilot Pete commands a room

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's like he has the presence where he's

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<v Speaker 1>like good looking, successful in his own right. He's like

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<v Speaker 1>confident and kind of quirky. And I think that women

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<v Speaker 1>like see him, Tori. I would imagined you would probably

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<v Speaker 1>see him in person and like kind of like gush

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, oh my god, pilot Pete. Yes, judging

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<v Speaker 1>by what you've told me about the things that you

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<v Speaker 1>like in guys and how you fall for I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're probably about the same height. He's tall. He looks

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<v Speaker 1>about five. Everyone always comes up to me in person

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<v Speaker 1>and they say, oh my gosh, you're so much tallerant person.

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<v Speaker 1>I guarantee he's at least six ft tall. Okay, you cheat, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but we take an inch off whatever it says online. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the online biography says he's five eleven. Sure, what is

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<v Speaker 1>my online biography say? Okay, stand by, how tall are you? Tori?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm five ten and three quarters. Wow, so you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter of a high standard. I would have to

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<v Speaker 1>shrink three fourths down so that's six one, But in

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<v Speaker 1>reality I'm six one and a half. You always take

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<v Speaker 1>an inch to one and a half of my license

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<v Speaker 1>six ladies, anytime a guy has a high on bumble

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<v Speaker 1>or their dating profile, always take an inch off if

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<v Speaker 1>they're putting it in a bubble. I put thing like

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<v Speaker 1>three happy to no. I think he should like under

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<v Speaker 1>six ft because when we were at all a nap

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<v Speaker 1>but together, I'm pretty sure he was taller. And Mike's

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<v Speaker 1>six five six three for Derek. Oh, that is not

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<v Speaker 1>true at all, someone at Google or something, because that

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<v Speaker 1>is a falsified number. Okay, did you just admit that

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<v Speaker 1>you falsified your number two by a half an inch?

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<v Speaker 1>You round up still counts He's not six two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. I tower over and whenever I stand next

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<v Speaker 1>to him, a white line, a lie, or all the

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<v Speaker 1>same things. So you're telling me right now you want

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<v Speaker 1>Derek to be the next Bachelor. I would actually be

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<v Speaker 1>maybe more intrigued with his storyline than Pilot Pete. Why.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like we've seen kind of all of

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<v Speaker 1>Pilot Pete that we've needed a scene. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>see more of Derek because like we met the parents,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw their sex life, Like there's really nothing hidden

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<v Speaker 1>about him where I'm kind of like I've seen it

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<v Speaker 1>all with Derek. I'm like I could definitely need layers

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<v Speaker 1>peeled back for you. I guess I could see Derek

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<v Speaker 1>having like better conversations with the women. Again, I just

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<v Speaker 1>think that a bachelor's season is more about the caddy

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<v Speaker 1>female drama between them, like trying to like pine over

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<v Speaker 1>each other to get to the guy. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that women would be like fighting tooth and nail harder

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<v Speaker 1>to get to Peter than they would to Derek. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask you this because you said

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<v Speaker 1>you think that pilot Pete is attractive and would command

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<v Speaker 1>the room and girls would be, you know, wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>talk and get to know him more. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>Derek's attractive? Um, he's not my type. He has blue eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>just like you. He's not my type. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if I like the scruff very much. Okay, so's the mustache.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not that's not scruff, that's a mustache. It's is

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<v Speaker 1>he your type? Well, he looks like John Krasinski? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that how you say that's a good every woman loves.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's just because I know darre Can. I hung

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<v Speaker 1>out with the multiple times, and like once you start

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<v Speaker 1>to hang out with people you like, and that's another

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<v Speaker 1>thing too. Probably why I have a lot more for

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<v Speaker 1>Peters because there's like a mystery or like an allure

0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:09.680
<v Speaker 1>of someone that you don't know on a personal level.

0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I've never met Pete in person. I've hung out with

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<v Speaker 1>Derek many many times, and so I just like I

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<v Speaker 1>know him too well to be like, okay, like you

0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:19.000
<v Speaker 1>should do this. But with Peter, like I don't know

0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.399
<v Speaker 1>much about him, so I'm just like projecting how I

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<v Speaker 1>think he would do as a bachelor into my like

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<v Speaker 1>into existence, you know what I mean. But I will say, no,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not my type. If I were to like get

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<v Speaker 1>super drunk and just uh, what's the word. If I

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<v Speaker 1>were just like, you know, go all out one night

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go for it. I'm gonna find a dude and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna dig in make out with him. See where

0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.520
<v Speaker 1>we go? Who knows, like the night is our oyster?

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't be Derek. Who would it be Tyler see

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<v Speaker 1>Ready to Go? Or Pete? I don't know, pilot Pete

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<v Speaker 1>I would be into it too, or Peter for my

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<v Speaker 1>season or Alex b from my season. There are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of dudes that I'd be willing to get down

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<v Speaker 1>in dirty way. Peter from your season has like major

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<v Speaker 1>scruff and blue eyes, right, he's got green ice. What

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<v Speaker 1>is going on? Is there something going on between you

0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and Derek that you just need to maybe let out? No,

0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's not. We Actually what's funny is when

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<v Speaker 1>I walked down to the beach the first time I

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<v Speaker 1>saw him, because there was like, I don't know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to call it beef, but like Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>Nolan and I are like friends, you know. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that. And it's like whenever you see here, one side,

0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.560
<v Speaker 1>like there's always three sides of the stories after breakups,

0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Like obviously exes are never gonna really speak very highly

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<v Speaker 1>of each other. I'm not saying that she ever spoke

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<v Speaker 1>negatively of him, but um, I don't know, It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a tricky situation. You and Kaylin are

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<v Speaker 1>shown a lot with p d A and always being

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<v Speaker 1>off together and doing your own thing. But who was

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<v Speaker 1>like the guy you would confide in most when you're

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<v Speaker 1>at Bachelor Paradise Besides wells um, like, who is your

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<v Speaker 1>guy friend? I mean they're all my friends. Who did

0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:43.720
<v Speaker 1>you spend time with outside of Klin? I didn't really

0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:45.800
<v Speaker 1>like confide in any I didn't need to confide in anyone.

0:20:46.200 --> 0:20:51.159
<v Speaker 1>I was like struggling down Yeah, I guess like my

0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:53.040
<v Speaker 1>producer friend Bill was down there. I guess I can

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<v Speaker 1>find I want to know who you hung out with,

0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.520
<v Speaker 1>because it was really just you and Klin the whole time. Dylan.

0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I hung out Dylan a lot. How is Dylan is?

0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:01.720
<v Speaker 1>He has great? As everyone said, you like Dylan, because

0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:02.959
<v Speaker 1>I think that a lot of people kind of think

0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:06.640
<v Speaker 1>he's like kind of naggy and complaining, But he's great.

0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I love him. Our producer Daniel is obsessed with Dylan,

0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:12.720
<v Speaker 1>So you got to take that up with her. You

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.159
<v Speaker 1>don't like him, No, I'm sorry. I think you ms

0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:17.160
<v Speaker 1>heard I said I love him. I'm obsessed with him.

0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:20.119
<v Speaker 1>I am rooting so hardcore for Dylan. Dylan in the

0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Hand of You love story, Yes, I live for it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's my favorite thing. I'm watching Paradise this year or

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<v Speaker 1>the season. Um, there's something so sweet about him. Yes,

0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:32.719
<v Speaker 1>he's very pure. Yeah, he's so pure and his intentions

0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:35.720
<v Speaker 1>are there and Hannah just needs to just go with it,

0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:39.399
<v Speaker 1>which looks like she's finally starting to totally focus. Was

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<v Speaker 1>also biased because everyone thinks that her husband looks like

0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:45.439
<v Speaker 1>they have the same hair. That's about it. And the

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<v Speaker 1>short of my sides, it's great hair. And he is

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<v Speaker 1>hilarious to like he you don't really get to see

0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:52.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of his humor because he's constantly like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of being upset about the whole handed in Blake situation

0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:57.359
<v Speaker 1>or whatever it was. But he's like a hilarious dude,

0:21:57.760 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 1>and like his humor is very like it's very similar

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<v Speaker 1>to mind, like self deprecating, very like I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to say this. He was like

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<v Speaker 1>he's like openly like, oh yeah, I'd make out with

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<v Speaker 1>that dude for sure, or like Mike's so hot, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>make out with him, you know, And I always respects

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<v Speaker 1>respect a guy who's humor is like he's comfortable enough

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<v Speaker 1>with himself to be like, oh yeah, like I totally

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<v Speaker 1>make out that dude, like jokingly, but like still like

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<v Speaker 1>you it takes a lot to you guys think about that,

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<v Speaker 1>like that guy is pretty attractive. If I were to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe hook about the guy, I would hook up with him. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a list of five people. Clearly he thought

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<v Speaker 1>about this. I made out with a couple of dudes

0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:34.359
<v Speaker 1>in creation people holds on Tyler c Peter, Alex Peter.

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<v Speaker 1>What you made out with guys in croati like closed mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>extended time kisses like a joking thing or like a

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<v Speaker 1>cultural thing, like a joking fun like we're all party in.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've never kissed a guy in a non joking manner? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that bad? No? Not at all. I just clarifying

0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:54.159
<v Speaker 1>because I I agree it's funny to talk about for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason. There's never any tongue. It's always just like,

0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:58.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, like nice little cute pecks. Yeah, yeah, good.

0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Did you feel a little tingly thing down side when

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I was reading that book? Now? I didn't, but maybe

0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:07.479
<v Speaker 1>I should try a little harder. Wait, they were all

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<v Speaker 1>sitting around the campfire talking about their worst first kiss,

0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.399
<v Speaker 1>and they all said it was Colton. I'm not going

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to ask you if you kiss Colton, but I didn't

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:18.960
<v Speaker 1>want to know who. Do you have a worst kiss? Like?

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 1>Does everyone? Do you think everybody has a bad kiss?

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably a lot of people's worst kiss get out

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<v Speaker 1>of here, probably? Yeah. So did you say that was

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<v Speaker 1>such confidence? Well? I know my first kiss was very

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassing because I've never done it before fifteen, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a little old for a first kiss. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>I kept going like I was making a noise, like

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 1>the whole room could hear it. It was there are

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<v Speaker 1>other couples and wait, where were you friends? Basement? We're

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<v Speaker 1>watching a movie, like three couples watching a movie and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was making out and then the noise happened and

0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.760
<v Speaker 1>that was from me. Nice And it sounds like you

0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:56.440
<v Speaker 1>have a complex about it. Yeah, what about a bad kiss? Yeah,

0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>for sure. That's a lot of tongue. It was like overwhelming.

0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes I still like cringe about it. Why it's just

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 1>too much tongue. It was just one of those things

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 1>where he was already such like a presence where you

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>could just be more delicate and your kiss, and he

0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 1>definitely was not. It was just like so much tongue.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think they think they try to do something

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 1>to like stimulate the girl, and you're like, now, yeah,

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:24.520
<v Speaker 1>actually I just remember my worst kiss and it was

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 1>very similar to that. It was like a tongue being

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<v Speaker 1>like uses like a torpedo or like a spear, Like

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:30.359
<v Speaker 1>you have like so many muscles in your tongue you

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 1>don't need to use every single one of them. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're making out with someone, you know what I mean.

0:24:33.840 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I just remembered one from high school. Actually she was

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think she kiss a lot of guys before me,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when we kissed, she literally just opened her mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>Is why does she poss I wasn't sure what to

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<v Speaker 1>do with that. Also that hitting the teeth has a

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<v Speaker 1>pret good story. Well, I mean, I feel like I'm

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:55.400
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people's bad too. But but I think

0:24:55.400 --> 0:24:57.400
<v Speaker 1>he told us on scrubbing in or some other podcasts.

0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 1>But I'm this one woman I read make out with

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>She did this thing where she kept her face far

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<v Speaker 1>away from mine and she would trace my lips with

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>her tongue and she never like made contact. It was

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:11.600
<v Speaker 1>always tongue to lip. Yeah, I felt like she was

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>like trying to come in for a landing or something

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>like clearing it's clearing space. But so in that instance,

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 1>she was a bad kiss. She was a bad kid.

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>This is my worst kiss experience. Uh. And my first

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 1>kiss ever was it the Scott's Valley roller rink when

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like twelve, and uh, we kissed once and

0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:32.960
<v Speaker 1>then she whispered in my ear, I'm on probation, I'm

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>not she was, and I said I'm sorry, and she said,

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 1>I got busted for having marijuana. Twelve year old a

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>thing around like, but she was on probation. She was

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<v Speaker 1>worried about I think she saw like a police officer

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<v Speaker 1>or something, and I'm like, you know a lot to

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:55.840
<v Speaker 1>be out in public, like no, I'm just worried Eastern

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:57.879
<v Speaker 1>like a bad girl. So is that why she kissed

0:25:57.880 --> 0:25:59.480
<v Speaker 1>you to kind of hide from the police officer, like

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 1>hid her face. I don't. I don't know. Because we

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 1>we went and saw a plan of the apes, the

0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Tim Burton one, and then we kissed and then she

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<v Speaker 1>then I never saw her again. I think that explains

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:10.440
<v Speaker 1>the tattoo is a lot. Yeah. Yeah, she like instilled

0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>like a bad boy mentality into you. You know, well, yes,

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm signing of a bad boy. But yeah,

0:26:15.520 --> 0:26:17.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, you don't know what it's like to kiss

0:26:17.320 --> 0:26:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the fugitive. Let me tell you. You think that would

0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>be alluring to you know? I I they had jobs

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, should we stop? And she's like no,

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>and then we kissed. Yeah, And then after it was done,

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:31.679
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I mean it should I be like

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:33.240
<v Speaker 1>concerned and she's like, no, and I just wanted to

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:35.760
<v Speaker 1>let you know, and uh, let's considerate. My dad's a

0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:39.880
<v Speaker 1>police officer, asked her contracts. Are you kidding? I'm not. Yeah,

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you know we knew some of the same people. How

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 1>long did you guys date? For? Like? Three days? I

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.879
<v Speaker 1>was twelve, you know, the most riveting, but I was.

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>It was funny to hear Colton being everyone's first worst

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:52.960
<v Speaker 1>kiss I will say though I didn't watch his season,

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.560
<v Speaker 1>but when I would watch the certain parts from it

0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:59.639
<v Speaker 1>or the highlights, I always noticed he looked like a

0:26:59.680 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 1>really rough kisser. Yeah. I just think it's lack of

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 1>experience maybe, which is kind of endearing in a weird way.

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Would you would you agree? You want to who looks

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 1>like a bad kisser on Paradise? You well? In addition

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 1>to me, yes, John Paul Jones, have you seen what

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.439
<v Speaker 1>he kisses? He like goes full on fish mode, like

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>like pucks the cheap, the lips out a lot. Do

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 1>you like that? Tho? Yes, let's talk about third date.

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 1>But before we talk about third date, let's take a

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 1>quick break. Okay, great, and I'm gradual. I'm glad you

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 1>bring that up. Toward because I do want to talk

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>about the JPJ and the Tajuan and the Haley from

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 1>this episode because what's your because here's my thing. It's

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>funny because Nick nick It texted me right after this

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>episode are He texted me good friends whatever, and he's

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.719
<v Speaker 1>got his bachelor podcast via files. Don't listen to that one.

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Listen Almost Famous. It's way better plugging people to listen

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>to Almost Famous instead of which you did plug on

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:09.439
<v Speaker 1>this week's episode. You said when your conversation with Kalen,

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:11.919
<v Speaker 1>but I do suck at dating. I plugged help by

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>second Dating, not Almost Fam on the TV show Thank You.

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. I can't they aired that. To be firstly honest,

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>that was one of my texts to you too. But

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm mad at you. But way to plug um and

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Nick text me and he goes, hey, what's up with

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.360
<v Speaker 1>this JPJ guy? And it's funny watching this episode back

0:28:28.359 --> 0:28:30.360
<v Speaker 1>because look, I love John Paul Jones, Like he's hilarious.

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>He's like kind of hard to have like a real

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 1>in depth conversation with it because he's just kind of

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>like whoa like bro cool, you know what I mean?

0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>But then watching these dates with Juan and Haley. He

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:44.320
<v Speaker 1>like can't form full sentences. He's like laughing. His ass

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>off of the time is laugh Yeah, is wild. When

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>he said this is my first ever taj one on one,

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get that because her name is Tajuan and

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>they're on a one on one, so just rhymes. It

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>was like a it was a punt one. I don't

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 1>know why, you guys. I literally wrote this in the

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>notes and I sat there and I was like, wrote

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>in my notes and I said, I didn't really get

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 1>why this was so witty. Yeah, it was just beyond me.

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.200
<v Speaker 1>She really funny that you said that, because so when

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>she came down, I'm sure you don't remember what her

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 1>date card read, but it said find the taj Wan

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you want to go on a date with. And it

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 1>makes sense because her name is Tajwan, so like, find

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>the Tajwan you want to take on a date. And

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:26.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know who it was when she walked down.

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I had no idea what her name was, Tajuan, and

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>so she read that and I looked around and I go,

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 1>that was the weirdest daate card I've ever heard. Like

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:34.520
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't make any I was like, what the hell

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:39.120
<v Speaker 1>is the taj Wan? Later like it took me a

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.520
<v Speaker 1>second realized upon as well, Yeah, because I Google actually

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>googled what taj means because I's like, maybe that means

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>something one on one and then it was actually it said,

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>did you mean taz, which is t a z? And

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 1>then that's a drug? So I really didn't get her name.

0:29:53.640 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Is her father's name is wan. I don't hold the

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:59.640
<v Speaker 1>whole day, it was just weird to me. J p J.

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:02.560
<v Speaker 1>The food on a date, that's not that weird. That

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>was made to like, yeah, because is that has anybody

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>done that before? Though? I don't know, but that's not

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the weirdest thing on that time. The whole day was

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>just weird to me. Was it not like she's just

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 1>so herself and JPJ so himself that it's two very independent,

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>eccentric people together. But I think kind of worked because

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 1>it was like, you're kind of quirky, I'm kind of quirky,

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>and we just accept each other for where we're at.

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>And Tajuan was immediately like obsessed with him, and I

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>think it was tricky. She had a panic attack because

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:39.360
<v Speaker 1>of it when Haley came down. I don't really talk

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Tajwan very much when we were on the beach, but

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize how into JPJ she actually was. But yeah,

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>she really liked him. But then he goes on a

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>date with Haley twin from Ben season, right, who is Haley?

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Haley is Emily's twin from Ben season. And the day

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.560
<v Speaker 1>with Haley. Aesthetically speaking, they look like they could be

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>not like brother and sister, but they like they're both

0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 1>like a blonde, like really good looking people, and so

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>just on paper, they made a lot of sense to me.

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>They're both like quirky and fun and whatever, and I

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know, it was just funny to watch their date,

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>and so he came back and he was like super

0:31:12.440 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>smitten about it. But I think in tonight's episode on Tuesday,

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna see like maybe a different side of JPJ,

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>just judging by what we saw in the teaser for

0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow's episode, Well we saw JPJ get a little hands

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>e with Haley with the sunscreen black box Taylors. But

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>all the time, yeah, I was going to ask what

0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 1>bathing suit requires you to get? I think I think

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>there was just like a satire, like they were just

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of being funny of the show, you know, because

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>it's not the first time they've done that. But I

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, he kept saying, oh my gosh, Lord

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>help me, oh my gosh, my parents going to kill me,

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>while he's like literally rubbing his hands underneath her bathing suit. Mom,

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm a really beautiful woman right now, I know literally,

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>But I was thinking, I wonder how many, like do

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>you have any scenes you regret that or happened where

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.240
<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh my gosh, if my friends see this,

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we so embarrassed because you've been on But

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>never like the sexual scenes like that, like the crying scenes.

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>I would like cry on TV and I'd be like,

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 1>my friends are gonna be so much for that, but

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 1>crying now, there's gonna be something better. Is there someone

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 1>where You're like, I really hope this doesn't air um

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>in this season? An Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>plenty of things I want this. I know there's one there.

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you know? You just know that I'm struggling right

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>now now. I just want you to tell me there

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>was a scene from Bachelor Winter Games that I'm really

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>happy didn't get it. Okay, I would love to know

0:32:39.720 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>more about it. Was there a girl involved? Yes, okay,

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>we were hooking up in a place that we shouldn't

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 1>have been hooking up. I'm not going to get into

0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>much detailed closet. It was, it was dark. There might

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 1>have been people around, indoor outdoor. It was indoor. And

0:32:57.960 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>that's as far as I'm going to say. Were you

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 1>at the top of a mountain skiing? That's not endorsedes it.

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>But wait, what was it about? If that was so embarrassing,

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't care if it was. It's not that it

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>was embarrassing. It she's like, you know, you don't want

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>to see yourself like getting super hot, like when you're

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.239
<v Speaker 1>kissing on a date or something. You're kind of like

0:33:12.640 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 1>contained and you're like, oh, we're just gonna make out.

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 1>But this one was like getting a little bit more

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 1>like past first base in a sense, not like super

0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>not like hitting a home run or anything that, but

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>got things. We're progressing more than just a small little makeout. Okay,

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>you're okay, God, I think I could think I understand

0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying. Right. It is maybe some groping involved

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 1>both of your yes, but it's mutual growth, posensual. It's

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>very very constentual mutual groping, and they didn't. They like

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>tease a part of it in one of the in

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the season premiere preview, but they never actually aired any

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>part of it in the show, which I'm pretty grateful for,

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>and I think she was grateful for it as well.

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Just you know, we were like it was like a

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 1>couple of days in and we had been drinking a

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit and we were like just exploring. I would

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 1>hate to watch myself make out game time footage. It's

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 1>good to kind of watch maybe learn some new but

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>that's what technique. That's what was so great about Bachelor

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>parodies this time around, because I talked about this before.

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I stayed sober the whole time, and so there's there

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:05.880
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been much on this season where I'm like, oh, man,

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>like I'm kind of hopefully they don't air that because

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't really. Yes, I did dumb things, but I

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't do like things out of my own I guess,

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>like will or like control. You know, like when you

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 1>get drunk, you make a lot of bad decisions. You

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>wake up in the morning and you're like, oh, Aquid courage, right,

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying, like you make those mistakes privately, like

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>on a Friday night at Bungalow, you wake up Saturday morning,

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:26.800
<v Speaker 1>you're like a little stressed out. You make those on

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.399
<v Speaker 1>national television and then you wait three months for something

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>to air and you're like, holy cow, I really hope

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:32.919
<v Speaker 1>they don't air this for the entire nation to see.

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just a little bit different. So how many girls

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>do you think are going to go to Bungalow this

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>weekend now? Just hoping to see you there? I have

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:39.240
<v Speaker 1>been to Bungalow in years and I have no intention

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to go back. Sorry about that? Oh my god? Um?

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 1>What else is it going on? There? Is Kalin and me?

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 1>We talked about that a little bit. Okay, okay, okay.

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 1>She pulls you aside because she had just spoken to

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Demian Wells, who said, hey, nobody's being able to tie

0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 1>him down. Are you sure everything is going as great

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 1>as you think it is? And she says yes, confidently. Yes.

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Wells actually does chime in saying nobody's tied down dean unwranglable. Yes,

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 1>that's correct, he did use that word. And then she

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:16.239
<v Speaker 1>brings you over to the bed. Were you expecting this

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 1>conversation to happen. I'm going to tell you exactly what

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I was expecting, but before that, we're gonna take a

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>quick break. Okay. So Tori's question was, was I expecting

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 1>to have a conversation with Calin when she pulled me

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 1>down to the day bed, And to answer it honestly

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>and truthfully, no, I did not expect that because the

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:44.680
<v Speaker 1>entire time I'm down on the beach shocking and Klin,

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, look, I don't know if I'm ready for

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:49.759
<v Speaker 1>a relationship. I don't really. I was like considering not

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>even coming here because I'm kind of like anti bachelor

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 1>relationship to begin with. We're hitting it off, we have

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of chemistry, we're having a lot of fun,

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>but like, I think it's totally acceptable and responsible of

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 1>you to be guarding your heart from this. I would die.

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 1>And the entire time she's like, yeah, like I get it,

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I get it. Whatever will move slow, We'll figure this out,

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:11.520
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah blah. And then all of a

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:12.920
<v Speaker 1>sudden she was like, hey, come on, we needn't have

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the serious talk. And I was like, this is so

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>out of left fields here, Like I figured we were

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>on the same page, like every chance I get to

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>remind you, like how hesitant and apprehensive I am to

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 1>jump into a relationship here. And then she pulls me

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:23.920
<v Speaker 1>down and she goes, well, what are your intentions? And

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I go, what do you mean one of my intentions?

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been telling you, like literally every hour on the

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 1>hour since the first time you met, what my attentions are.

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>It's basically just to come down, have fun. If something happens, great,

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of all of this, this Bachelor

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Paradise season, I'm probably not going to leave in a relationship.

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 1>And I told her that multiple times, Like, look, if

0:36:39.200 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>we get to the end of the show, I'm probably

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna want to leave single. In some weird way. I

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of don't believe you, I'm telling you, because how

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 1>is she so adamant saying we are going to walk away? Possibly,

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 1>like I can see it's walking away in a relationship,

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.359
<v Speaker 1>because she, just like every other girl that I've ever

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 1>dated in my entire life, thinks that they can change

0:36:56.960 --> 0:37:00.640
<v Speaker 1>my mind. But I wouldn't been very confident it going.

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:04.799
<v Speaker 1>Everything's going great between me and Dean, like you know,

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 1>like she she really doesn't mention once that you're hesitant

0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:12.439
<v Speaker 1>on your end from the editing we see and of course,

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.080
<v Speaker 1>like I said before, there's so much going on at

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>all times, they can't air everything. But and I was

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 1>very clear and direct, and she understood it, and she

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:22.719
<v Speaker 1>still felt like she needs some clarity, and obviously, like

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I did my best to give it to her, it

0:37:23.840 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>was still kind of an awkward conversation, like I'm still

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 1>not telling her the things that she wants to hear,

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not gonna sit down there on that day

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>but and be like, yeah, I could totally see us

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>like having a future together. I could totally see us

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 1>doing this, this and this, because that's not necessarily how

0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:35.719
<v Speaker 1>I felt. So why would I sit there and be like, yeah,

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I totally believe all this stuff, you know what I mean?

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>So the entire like, and again I think I've been

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>vocal about this on the podcast, where I don't know

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:43.399
<v Speaker 1>if it was necessarily right for me to go down

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>on that beach having that mindset where I didn't really

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>want to date anyone. I just wanted to go and

0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 1>have fun, and then trying off like someone started a

0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 1>fault for me. We'll see this all come to a

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:56.839
<v Speaker 1>dramatic climax on Tuesday's episode, So I think, like maybe

0:37:56.880 --> 0:37:59.879
<v Speaker 1>everything will be answered. But here's where I'm bothered, because

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.480
<v Speaker 1>says like every guy and Daniellee Chiamon if you think

0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm wrong or right, Guys leave out major details and conversations. Girls,

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 1>we're we do assume, but we're not really quick to assume.

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Like we definitely have conversations, we talk about things, and

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 1>we take it all in. So I don't doubt that

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.240
<v Speaker 1>you said that, but I think also all your actions

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 1>are speaking way louder than your words. So she's like,

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:29.080
<v Speaker 1>we're obviously doing really great, and then you go and

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:33.840
<v Speaker 1>give her a birthday surprise with champagne a cake. You

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 1>bring that in. She's telling you, Hey, I just need

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you to tell me, like why are you down on

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:42.040
<v Speaker 1>this beach And you're telling her, I'm I'm here taking

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 1>it day by day with you. Let's just be present,

0:38:45.320 --> 0:38:48.919
<v Speaker 1>Like you're feeding her so many things that I think

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you aren't owning up to what you were doing with me.

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a messed up of you, but

0:38:54.719 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I think your actions are speaking way louder than your words.

0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.760
<v Speaker 1>So either you need to own your actions and accept

0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:01.879
<v Speaker 1>that up being like this doesn't feel comfortable to me

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:05.799
<v Speaker 1>because I'm I'm somebody who's a free bird and I

0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:07.920
<v Speaker 1>live in a van and I'm happy. But like, you

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>got to own up to your actions because obviously your

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:13.800
<v Speaker 1>brain is way more than like where your heart is, Daniel,

0:39:13.840 --> 0:39:17.439
<v Speaker 1>what do you think? I see where you're coming from, Tori.

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 1>But I'm okay with Dean showing some affection even though

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 1>he's really not sure exactly what's happening. But for real,

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.439
<v Speaker 1>like I I totally feel that way, like no as

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a as a girl, as a check, like I'm like,

0:39:31.239 --> 0:39:34.479
<v Speaker 1>why is Dean doing that? But I understand dean side

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>of it, but like this is the classic where Kalin

0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 1>can quote unquote look kind of crazy because she's saying

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>all these things and now Dean saying he never really

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 1>said anything opposite of that, but his actions were speaking

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:49.719
<v Speaker 1>so much louder than his words that it's like, now

0:39:49.760 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 1>she's going to be panned out to be this kind

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 1>of crazy girl who's just obsessed with Dean, and that's

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>not the case, Like you were into her, you liked her,

0:39:56.880 --> 0:39:59.600
<v Speaker 1>or like I don't know what's going to happen, but

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>like that's so annoying that you're the guy that now

0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 1>is like, I'm cool, I'm chill, and I got this

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 1>crazy chick because things I'm into her. And it's like

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 1>that's so annoying, Like you're such the guy that everyone

0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.280
<v Speaker 1>is so frustrated by. Dean can't handle how the show's

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>edited as long as he is. You can't edit a

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.000
<v Speaker 1>hug and a makeout such that we aren't saying the

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 1>conversations where you're saying, Oh, your intentions and how you're feeling,

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:26.359
<v Speaker 1>we haven't seen that. But if you're true, if you

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 1>truly did have those conversations with her, I'm okay with it. No,

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of infuriating to me. See what Daniel is saying,

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:37.439
<v Speaker 1>and I kind of agree with what Tori saying where

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I actually speak louder than words. Edit out where he

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:41.919
<v Speaker 1>says I agree, we'll take out the coin. And if

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying these things, regardless of whether I'm saying them

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:47.279
<v Speaker 1>and being honest and direct and clear about that, I

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:51.240
<v Speaker 1>see your point because I'm still acting like I'm interested

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 1>in keeping things going after Paradise. You're saying one thing,

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:59.960
<v Speaker 1>You're tongue is saying another thing. WHOA But like, yeah,

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:04.239
<v Speaker 1>is and maybe that's why all of this is coming

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>to a head on Tuesday's episode, where maybe we'll have

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 1>it all figured out after this and you give her

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:15.879
<v Speaker 1>your rose? Like everything about this makes me so frustrated.

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I think you need to be patient and just see

0:41:17.680 --> 0:41:19.280
<v Speaker 1>how it plays. You know, I need to be patient,

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.479
<v Speaker 1>But I'm assuming the situations that happened in the past

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 1>a Bachelor and Paradise. I really don't you could have

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:25.919
<v Speaker 1>been pulling her aside, just been like, hey, I really

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 1>am all in and I really can't jump to that.

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>But that first conversation makes me very wary some of

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:32.680
<v Speaker 1>what this new conversation is going to be. But it's like,

0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 1>of course Dean would do this after he gives her

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the freaking rose. Have I given another rose in this episode? Yes?

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 1>What is your take on Bachelor in Paradise. There's a

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:45.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of couples forming. I'm starting to make myself look

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:47.640
<v Speaker 1>like an ale. Are you on my side? Are you

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:49.719
<v Speaker 1>on Kaylin's side? Do you love John Paul Jones? Do

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:52.320
<v Speaker 1>you hate Derek? I don't know. Let us hear your thoughts.

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Email us at I suck at Dating at i heeart

0:41:54.480 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Media dot Com Bachelor in Paradise is only halfway over,

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:00.839
<v Speaker 1>and I want to hear what you guys, so email us.

0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I suck at dating at i heeart media dot com.

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm where Kaylin's at. You're like, hey, I needed, I

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:08.319
<v Speaker 1>need to talk to you, and literally the whole room

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:10.279
<v Speaker 1>like kind of stops and just like stares as you

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 1>and Klin walked down, and she's like, Dean, don't do this. Dean,

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>are you serious? Do you really want to have a

0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 1>conversation right now? Dan just telling what's going on? And

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>You're like, let's just go sit back up the you know,

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 1>let's just go chill. And I'm like, I can't tell

0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>if I trust Dean's actions right now. For I'm trusting

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Kaylyn's emotional state right now, Like I don't know what

0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>side to be on, but I'm just I'm annoyed. I

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:32.319
<v Speaker 1>can see that. I'm annoyed. I can really see that,

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and you're making her out to look a little crazy. Um.

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that you will gain some clarity on the

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 1>situation on tomorrow's episode. On Tuesday's night episode after or

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>before christ and Crystal's wedding. Um, I don't even seen

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.400
<v Speaker 1>it yet, but I think that will help, and it

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 1>does look like there's a lot of drama at the wedding,

0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.800
<v Speaker 1>but generally speaking, taking it out of the Bachelor Paradise world,

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 1>it's not great when a guy is like, you know,

0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm just playing a cool and putting it that by

0:42:57.360 --> 0:42:59.279
<v Speaker 1>day and then he comes over and mix out with

0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:01.439
<v Speaker 1>you and takes about all the time, it sleeps over

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and whatever. Do you feel cheap? That's the that's the

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 1>tough thing is is you shouldn't go to Bachelor in

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Paradise not trying to leave in a relationship. He's taking

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.759
<v Speaker 1>it outside of the Bachelor realm. I was, but I

0:43:12.760 --> 0:43:15.239
<v Speaker 1>see your point too. I was taking it away from Bache.

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 1>They're just saying there are a lot of guys like

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>that that are just going to take as much as

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 1>they can get from you, as long as you're willing

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 1>to give it, because they can always cover themselves saying

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 1>like hey, I said from the beginning, I don't want

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 1>a relationship. Yeah, we were sleeping together for six months up. Sorry,

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 1>I told you you know. And it's just kind of

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:30.839
<v Speaker 1>a dick move, uh, I agree, A big dick move.

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Not saying you're doing that exactly. We'll find out tomorrow

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>night more more of a little dick move. I guess

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:36.920
<v Speaker 1>it really depends on your interpretation of what the dick

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 1>move is. Um, but yes, I agree with everything as

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>you're saying. I think that it's probably the reason that

0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 1>this podcast even exists. I suck at dating. I don't

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm doing ever, honestly, Like I can't explain

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:55.200
<v Speaker 1>to you when I was watching that show. It's hard

0:43:55.239 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>to it's hard to in this instance, specifically, it's hard

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:04.720
<v Speaker 1>to firmly believe something. In this case, me firmly believing

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm better off alone. But then you meet someone that

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you have like an instant chemistry with, and you're like

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:12.840
<v Speaker 1>fighting your original belief that you want to be alone,

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:14.959
<v Speaker 1>you want to be single, And then you meet someone

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and like things are going well, there isn't really any

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:19.279
<v Speaker 1>reason for you to end anything Like That's kind of

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I think where all these tricky situations come from. Where

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:23.839
<v Speaker 1>you get caught up on this mindset like I'm gonna

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 1>stay single, but then you meet someone, things go well,

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:28.400
<v Speaker 1>they go well, they go well. Eventually gets to a

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:31.319
<v Speaker 1>point where nothing really has ever gone wrong, but you

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 1>still don't want to have a relationship and so like

0:44:33.440 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you don't really have a reason to be like okay, like,

0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:36.879
<v Speaker 1>obviously we should stop this, you know what I mean?

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you like the attention you get from being self deprecating?

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I can say that I like it.

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean, Well, you really own that title

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>with pride, which is fine. You're like, yeah, Dylan and

0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I were both very self deprecating people. Do you enjoy

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 1>the pension that brings where the girl is going to

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:03.480
<v Speaker 1>have to be like, no, I want to fix you

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and you're like I can't be fixed. And then she's

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 1>like okay, but I want to fight for you, and

0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you're like, I'm not worth fighting over. Like do you

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:14.200
<v Speaker 1>enjoy that attention to somewhat level? And I need Honestly,

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:16.279
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of psychological issues that I have. I'm

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>not saying no, I need it, yes or no. I

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:20.439
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't think you do. I don't enjoy

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the attention. No, I don't think you do. That's not

0:45:23.080 --> 0:45:25.279
<v Speaker 1>the purpose of being self deprecating, but I think that

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:27.759
<v Speaker 1>you get a little bit of like I love that

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 1>somebody really wants to help fill that void or that

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:34.800
<v Speaker 1>that feeling that I have where I do long for someone,

0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 1>but no one can fix that. No one can be

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 1>that ultimate void or fill that void. So you almost

0:45:41.760 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 1>like the fact that somebody really cares about you that

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:47.440
<v Speaker 1>much to be like, I'm still here next to you.

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that I need someone to not care about

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:50.279
<v Speaker 1>me at all in order for me to be really

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 1>interested in that. From this, when you say I'm not

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>worth fighting for, I do think you believe that. Sadly,

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I do think you believe that. I don't think you're

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 1>just saying that to be self deprecating or to get

0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 1>sympathy or attention. I think you actually believe that, which

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:10.360
<v Speaker 1>makes me sad. Yeah, I mean, I look. But on

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the other hand, what's Camele's supposed to think like this

0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 1>is this is the path that people go on. They

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 1>have a chemistry, they kiss, they spend time together, they laugh,

0:46:17.719 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 1>they have a great time. That is that usually is

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.400
<v Speaker 1>a road to a certain destination, and you're removing that destination.

0:46:24.440 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 1>It's hard, It's never it's never black and white, right,

0:46:26.440 --> 0:46:28.799
<v Speaker 1>There's not ever one path that gets you to a

0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 1>specific destination, as you're saying, But with you, you're not.

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I think most people in America are either on the

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 1>path or consider themselves on the path that I am

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>single and then I will meet someone and I will

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 1>date them, and then when will get married, and then

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll have babies, and that's kind of the path, and

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:44.319
<v Speaker 1>you're not on that path. My path is I don't

0:46:44.320 --> 0:46:45.719
<v Speaker 1>want to date anyone. I don't want to get married.

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to have babies, And so that way,

0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 1>when I do date someone, I do get married, I

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 1>do have babies, I'll know that it was like against

0:46:50.520 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 1>my will, which makes it probably more perfect. So you're

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 1>not even the guy who's like I could have kids

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:59.480
<v Speaker 1>before marriage or what. Like. You know how some people

0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:00.800
<v Speaker 1>are like, oh, I really want to get married, but

0:47:00.800 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 1>they could see themselves having kids there like I would

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:04.439
<v Speaker 1>love to be a dad someday, but don't really see

0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:05.759
<v Speaker 1>marriage I was in my picture. I would have to

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:07.759
<v Speaker 1>be in like a committed relationship. I don't have to

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:09.719
<v Speaker 1>be married. I see what you're saying, But if I

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:11.640
<v Speaker 1>were to have kids, I would prefer to be married.

0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:13.720
<v Speaker 1>I think I don't know, is that what you're asking

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of I'm just saying. I mean, there's a lot

0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:17.800
<v Speaker 1>of people at a meeting now where they're like, I

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:20.400
<v Speaker 1>don't really want the whole commitment of husband and wife

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 1>to determine whether I need to be a dad or not.

0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:24.360
<v Speaker 1>So I like, I love kids, I would love to

0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:26.239
<v Speaker 1>have kids. I think I'm gonna make a great dad,

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:28.839
<v Speaker 1>But then I don't need marriage for that. I don't

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:30.360
<v Speaker 1>think it's a commitment thing. It's just more of like

0:47:30.360 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>a government. It's always one layer deeper. So you're saying, well,

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you just said a minute ago is interesting to me.

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 1>So you're saying that if you do get married one day,

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>it will be against your will. But therefore that means

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:46.520
<v Speaker 1>she meant that much to you, that she was powerful

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 1>enough to conquer all of your previous plans of not

0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 1>getting married to having babies. I've been vocal about this before,

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 1>especially as it pertains to bachelor relationships. People go on

0:47:56.760 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 1>a bachelor in paradise, specifically where they go regardless of

0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 1>what happens, I'm coming out of this. In a relationship,

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:05.200
<v Speaker 1>if you go down onto the beach thinking that thing,

0:48:05.320 --> 0:48:06.959
<v Speaker 1>or if you go to the bar thinking I'm gonna

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 1>beet my boyfriend tonight, you're not gonna You're gonna see

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it through those rose clud lenses. You're not gonna look

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 1>at it as I'm going to find the person that's

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 1>right for me. You're looking at us. I'm going to

0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:16.279
<v Speaker 1>find the relationship that I want. You know what I mean? Yes,

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 1>you're you're casting a role exactly, and so because of that,

0:48:19.239 --> 0:48:24.120
<v Speaker 1>like you're limiting yourself and pursuing something rather than pursuing someone,

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I think in a situation like that, And it's actually

0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>something very romantic about what he's saying right now, Thanks Mark,

0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 1>He's saying he's I'm not getting married period. So if

0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:34.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a woman that comes along and blows his mind

0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:35.720
<v Speaker 1>to the degree that he wants to marry her, wow,

0:48:36.239 --> 0:48:38.640
<v Speaker 1>like she is really something special. I hope we all

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:41.759
<v Speaker 1>like her. That's kind of sweet. I mean the same

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:49.000
<v Speaker 1>it could be or who knows? Story for us? Right? Yeah,

0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 1>I need I need help. Okay, we're gonna get into

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:55.360
<v Speaker 1>the issues of your dating life, but before we do that,

0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna take one quick break and I want to

0:48:57.080 --> 0:49:04.920
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<v Speaker 1>your life. Okay, Tori, you are an active dat or

0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you're single. You're beautiful, you're catch, You're a catch, You're smart,

0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 1>you're funny, sometimes you are interesting. I think Tori is

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:52.399
<v Speaker 1>a catch. I think that's true. Oh my gosh, all

0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:55.279
<v Speaker 1>of these things are true. You're going on dates and

0:50:55.400 --> 0:50:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you have fun stories to share with us. Let's hear

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:00.399
<v Speaker 1>the story. Let's hear the limit that your and right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So I kind of mentioned it on last week's podcast

0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:06.040
<v Speaker 1>that I'm dating somebody long distance. I don't know if

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:10.400
<v Speaker 1>I could really do say we were dating. I don't know.

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you guys say dating just happens when you're just

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:16.239
<v Speaker 1>talking to someone that's dating? I think, yeah, can I

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 1>say that sting not exclusive? It's not boyfriend girlfriend dating? Okay,

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 1>So I guess I'm dating this guy, I'm just gonna

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:25.320
<v Speaker 1>stay talking what was the issue last week, because I

0:51:25.320 --> 0:51:27.359
<v Speaker 1>don't think Dean was here for that. So basically I

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 1>was saying how we are way more having to be

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:34.480
<v Speaker 1>invested in our phones to date each other, and that

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:37.759
<v Speaker 1>stresses me out because he's not the best texter, which

0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:39.839
<v Speaker 1>I usually would find attractive if we lived in the

0:51:39.880 --> 0:51:42.439
<v Speaker 1>same city, because and I'd be like, oh, that's fine,

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:44.000
<v Speaker 1>just come hang out with me. I don't really like

0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:50.799
<v Speaker 1>texting either, huge facetimer, so that does work in this favor. Um,

0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:53.400
<v Speaker 1>But now the texting I have to read into every

0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:58.359
<v Speaker 1>freaking text message and it is so confusing, just like

0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:01.680
<v Speaker 1>why the period or why did you take two hours

0:52:01.719 --> 0:52:05.880
<v Speaker 1>to respond? If he sends something two hours? Should I?

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Should I? This isn't actually a great question for guys

0:52:08.280 --> 0:52:10.640
<v Speaker 1>when you send a text to a girl, let's say

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:14.759
<v Speaker 1>an hour after and then doesn't make a difference if

0:52:14.760 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 1>a girl holds out on responding a little while after two. Um.

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I did this when I was nineteen. I was really

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:24.239
<v Speaker 1>interested in the girl. We started talking texting. I went

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:25.880
<v Speaker 1>back for winter break, she went back to her hometown

0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:28.920
<v Speaker 1>for winter break, and she would text me like three

0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:30.560
<v Speaker 1>hours after, and so I would set an alarm for

0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:32.960
<v Speaker 1>three hours from that text then text your back. You're kidding.

0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I was nineteen, Tori. Okay. The point is we are

0:52:36.120 --> 0:52:38.480
<v Speaker 1>all adults now and we shouldn't be doing this anymore.

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 1>The fact that you set an alarm is so petty.

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I will say this, it worked. We dated for a

0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:47.480
<v Speaker 1>year and a half your boyfriend girlfriend, so I'm not

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:49.640
<v Speaker 1>but they had actually come to find out maybe like

0:52:49.640 --> 0:52:52.680
<v Speaker 1>three months into our relationship. She would say things like, dude,

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:54.759
<v Speaker 1>I was so piste off at you, like when we

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:56.400
<v Speaker 1>first started talking to each other. You would text me

0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:58.279
<v Speaker 1>back like seven hours later, and I hated it. And

0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I had to fight every instinct to out talking to

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:02.280
<v Speaker 1>you because I didn't want to talk to you anymore,

0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you know. But I was doing it as a because

0:53:05.000 --> 0:53:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I was over analyzing these texts and I was saying, oh,

0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:08.479
<v Speaker 1>she hasn't texted me in four hours. I'm not gonna

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:10.560
<v Speaker 1>text her back for four hours. Or she sent two

0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:12.439
<v Speaker 1>lines of text, I'm going to send two lines of text.

0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:14.920
<v Speaker 1>She had ellipses at the end of her statement. I'm

0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:17.120
<v Speaker 1>going to have three exclamation points in the end of

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:20.319
<v Speaker 1>my statement. That's what I'm saying I was nineteen. We're not.

0:53:20.480 --> 0:53:23.279
<v Speaker 1>We're not nineteen anymore. We're past these games, but we're

0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:25.680
<v Speaker 1>not that this over analysis still goes on on a

0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:31.160
<v Speaker 1>daily basis. But it shouldn't. But it shouldn't. I I

0:53:31.200 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 1>do think it's a bad sign, Like I don't look.

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Some people are more attached to their phones than others,

0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 1>but um, you know, I consider myself a busy guy.

0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:41.960
<v Speaker 1>I got two kids, wife, job. I get back to

0:53:41.960 --> 0:53:43.840
<v Speaker 1>you pretty quickly when you text me, don't you actually

0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:46.680
<v Speaker 1>really do? So he saw the text when it came in.

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:49.440
<v Speaker 1>That's what bothers me about it. I'm quite confident he

0:53:49.440 --> 0:53:52.719
<v Speaker 1>saw it. He could be so I'm when I was

0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:55.400
<v Speaker 1>at U c l A. Playing sports, you would be

0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:58.400
<v Speaker 1>in like game film time or whatever, watching film and

0:53:58.440 --> 0:54:00.480
<v Speaker 1>you'd be secretly texting. But like you how to really

0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:03.600
<v Speaker 1>be like quiet about it? Like I do? Get Okay. So, basically,

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:05.960
<v Speaker 1>he's an athlete, so I have to bide by his

0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 1>schedule way more than he has to bide by mine,

0:54:09.280 --> 0:54:12.360
<v Speaker 1>which I'm fine with. So basically he's out of practice

0:54:12.400 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 1>around like let's say eight, so that'd be six my time,

0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:17.840
<v Speaker 1>and then he goes to bed by tent so we

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:19.840
<v Speaker 1>have like two hours to talk, so I don't know

0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:21.520
<v Speaker 1>what he's doing in those two hours. I don't know

0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:22.919
<v Speaker 1>if he's really that done. I don't know if he's

0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:25.680
<v Speaker 1>just watching film. I don't really know the status. So

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:28.839
<v Speaker 1>I give I really extend grace on texting people back

0:54:28.880 --> 0:54:32.319
<v Speaker 1>slowly because I do know life's crazy. I just do

0:54:32.480 --> 0:54:35.360
<v Speaker 1>I need this is part one. Do I need to

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:39.799
<v Speaker 1>respond when he responds? Or do I actually give it

0:54:39.840 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 1>time to kind of create more of a chase or

0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 1>more of a what's happening? Or should ignore some of

0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:47.799
<v Speaker 1>his text don't play games, don't wait intentionally to like

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:50.839
<v Speaker 1>do the same thing he's doing. Definitely don't do this.

0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Never ever call him out for taking so long to

0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:57.000
<v Speaker 1>text you back. Never do that. So that's what I

0:54:57.000 --> 0:54:58.879
<v Speaker 1>said on the last podcast. I was like, it's hard

0:54:58.880 --> 0:55:01.160
<v Speaker 1>that I can't express like, hey, it sucks that like

0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you respond so slowly when we only have two hours

0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to talk. It's not going to improve anything. No, it's

0:55:07.160 --> 0:55:08.680
<v Speaker 1>not gonna make anything better. If you call him out

0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and say, hey, I don't like that you don't text

0:55:10.640 --> 0:55:12.359
<v Speaker 1>me back right away, it's, if anything, it's only gonna

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:14.160
<v Speaker 1>make it worse. It's going to push him further away,

0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:16.520
<v Speaker 1>at least in my case, like if someone people do

0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:18.239
<v Speaker 1>say that to me, Like I have close friends who

0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:20.120
<v Speaker 1>sometimes say, like, why don't you text me back quicker?

0:55:20.160 --> 0:55:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you do this? And all it does is

0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:23.399
<v Speaker 1>like aggravate me to the point where I'm like, I'm

0:55:23.400 --> 0:55:24.920
<v Speaker 1>doing the best I can here. I'm texting you back

0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:26.480
<v Speaker 1>when I can text you back, when I like find

0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:28.600
<v Speaker 1>time to text you back, either mentally, physically, whatever it is,

0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:32.520
<v Speaker 1>like saying preoccupied, whatever you like, kind of nagging me

0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:35.400
<v Speaker 1>and like like scaring me into texting you back faster.

0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:37.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna make it's not gonna make anything better.

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:38.719
<v Speaker 1>But is that a sign that maybe it's just not

0:55:38.760 --> 0:55:40.640
<v Speaker 1>the person you want to respond if you consider it

0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:42.799
<v Speaker 1>as nagging, kind of give him the benefit a little

0:55:42.840 --> 0:55:45.399
<v Speaker 1>bit if he's an athlete, because that that does change things.

0:55:45.400 --> 0:55:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Obviously he's on the field, he can't respond to you,

0:55:47.360 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and he probably isn't seeing it. So I mean, I

0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:50.239
<v Speaker 1>think it might take back what I said about him

0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:52.279
<v Speaker 1>seeing in the text when it came in. It would

0:55:52.320 --> 0:55:55.600
<v Speaker 1>be nice if you did something like sorry, just got

0:55:55.600 --> 0:55:58.120
<v Speaker 1>out of the shower or something like that would be great.

0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I agree, and that's kind of the happy medium I

0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:02.360
<v Speaker 1>think we're looking for. It would be the happy medium.

0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:05.480
<v Speaker 1>And I he's the first to text me all the time,

0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:08.560
<v Speaker 1>not all the time, but like enough where we're still

0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:12.239
<v Speaker 1>keeping conversation going. I've very rarely ever shoot a text first.

0:56:12.280 --> 0:56:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, Do you need him to

0:56:13.640 --> 0:56:15.880
<v Speaker 1>text you back faster? Do I need a man? No,

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:20.080
<v Speaker 1>like you want a man. That's my point is you

0:56:20.120 --> 0:56:22.200
<v Speaker 1>don't need him to text you back faster, So why

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:24.239
<v Speaker 1>are you putting such an emphasis on wanting him to

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 1>text you back faster? I think kind of resting in

0:56:26.560 --> 0:56:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the unknown for because I've been realizing we've talked for

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 1>almost like two months now, and being in the unknown

0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:35.480
<v Speaker 1>for two months is kind of brutal. You're not like, okay,

0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:38.000
<v Speaker 1>we don't he has a game out here in November,

0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:41.319
<v Speaker 1>like I'll see him then. But it's really hard to

0:56:41.360 --> 0:56:45.920
<v Speaker 1>not feel special during those times avoiding. I think it

0:56:45.920 --> 0:56:47.160
<v Speaker 1>would be a mistake for you to put all your

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:51.040
<v Speaker 1>eggs in this basket. Personally, I don't oppose that either.

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that you shouldn't um This goes back to

0:56:53.760 --> 0:56:55.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of what we're talking about earlier. You shouldn't like

0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:56.919
<v Speaker 1>try to force something to come of this. If something

0:56:56.960 --> 0:57:00.000
<v Speaker 1>comes of it, awesome, but if nothing does, that's perfectly

0:57:00.000 --> 0:57:01.680
<v Speaker 1>fun because you're just gonna be able to move on anyways. Like,

0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:05.799
<v Speaker 1>don't try and for something that isn't there. Well, I'm

0:57:05.800 --> 0:57:09.160
<v Speaker 1>still dating other people, so I'm not like you want

0:57:09.280 --> 0:57:11.560
<v Speaker 1>someone who makes you feel like you are their number

0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:14.279
<v Speaker 1>one priority and a professional athlete. They may not even

0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:16.640
<v Speaker 1>be possible. And I do accept that. I am fine

0:57:16.720 --> 0:57:19.200
<v Speaker 1>being you're like number three, your number four, your number five.

0:57:19.280 --> 0:57:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I actually don't mind that because I understand that lifestyle

0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:25.040
<v Speaker 1>where you're like my coach death like technically kind of

0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 1>goes first. You have to report to the coach first,

0:57:27.800 --> 0:57:30.480
<v Speaker 1>and then you know, like your family depending on where

0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:33.280
<v Speaker 1>you are and your two I think behind, well, if

0:57:33.640 --> 0:57:36.400
<v Speaker 1>she's like his wife or something, maybe, but maybe that's true. Yeah,

0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I gotta be for wife status for that, like your

0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:40.080
<v Speaker 1>family should go before you might be seeing other people

0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:46.960
<v Speaker 1>as well. I don't think so. I'm okay. I just

0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:50.760
<v Speaker 1>think like this kid literally has no time as of

0:57:50.800 --> 0:57:53.520
<v Speaker 1>right now certain camp, But I wouldn't mind if he's

0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 1>dating other people. I really wouldn't. That doesn't make me.

0:57:56.520 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 1>What is it about this guy that you like so

0:57:57.880 --> 0:57:59.600
<v Speaker 1>much more than the other people that you're dating. I

0:57:59.640 --> 0:58:02.040
<v Speaker 1>like that is like confidence, like he can command a room.

0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 1>If we were going back to the beginning, you probably

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:05.760
<v Speaker 1>like that he's less available than the other guys that

0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you're dating. Maybe, and I do agree with that, But

0:58:08.640 --> 0:58:11.280
<v Speaker 1>my work's not super I don't really have a lot

0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:13.640
<v Speaker 1>of time in my day either to be like, let's

0:58:13.640 --> 0:58:15.400
<v Speaker 1>go do this, or we can take a weekend off,

0:58:15.400 --> 0:58:17.640
<v Speaker 1>like I have to send work on Sundays. But you're

0:58:17.640 --> 0:58:19.560
<v Speaker 1>taking the one that's hard to reach and get a

0:58:19.560 --> 0:58:21.520
<v Speaker 1>hold of, and now someone is more difficult than you

0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:25.880
<v Speaker 1>are in that sense, and you find it attractive definitely. Yeah,

0:58:26.280 --> 0:58:30.680
<v Speaker 1>well okay, but here's my main question. Okay, so going

0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:35.280
<v Speaker 1>back to texting, So again I don't really text him

0:58:35.440 --> 0:58:38.480
<v Speaker 1>first ever. But he had a game, so I said,

0:58:38.800 --> 0:58:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll be sweet. Then I realized I sent it in

0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 1>there three hours ahead for this game, so he was

0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:46.040
<v Speaker 1>on the field by the time you got this. The

0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:48.760
<v Speaker 1>loss could be in my bad luck for him not

0:58:48.760 --> 0:58:50.200
<v Speaker 1>seeing this. So I said, good luck on your game.

0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:54.080
<v Speaker 1>A heart emoji. Good luck on your game is kind

0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:57.400
<v Speaker 1>of a cute, girly co heart is not how people

0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:04.440
<v Speaker 1>talk right, Um, it was a purple heart emoji. Hey,

0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:07.400
<v Speaker 1>that's my favorite color. Well, I always go purple heart too,

0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:09.680
<v Speaker 1>it's my favorite color. Do you think that there's different

0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:12.520
<v Speaker 1>interpretations between the yellow, the blue, the purple, the red?

0:59:12.680 --> 0:59:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I do? I think that a red heart is pretty

0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:17.280
<v Speaker 1>like pretty lazy, just like a friendly like heart. Here's

0:59:17.280 --> 0:59:19.280
<v Speaker 1>a heart. You know you think red is friendly. I

0:59:19.320 --> 0:59:22.920
<v Speaker 1>think it's just like the squinted, like this most commonly

0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:27.240
<v Speaker 1>accepted heart color, and so I think it's like love, passion, overstepping.

0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:29.400
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's the color that you associate with hearts,

0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:32.160
<v Speaker 1>and because of that, it has not as much meaning

0:59:32.200 --> 0:59:34.920
<v Speaker 1>as the others. A personalized heart. You went out of

0:59:34.920 --> 0:59:36.800
<v Speaker 1>your way to choose a different color heart besides the

0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:39.360
<v Speaker 1>red one, like I always send purple hearts because purple

0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:41.360
<v Speaker 1>is my color. You know what I mean? If you

0:59:41.440 --> 0:59:44.000
<v Speaker 1>send a color heart that's different than the red one,

0:59:44.000 --> 0:59:46.680
<v Speaker 1>that means that you're going the extra mile to share

0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:49.280
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about yourself than just a red heart. See,

0:59:49.320 --> 0:59:51.720
<v Speaker 1>I think of like flowers when I think of of U.

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:56.720
<v Speaker 1>The emojis like yellow's friendly, reds passionate, like you bring

0:59:56.800 --> 0:59:59.920
<v Speaker 1>yellow flowers to your grandmother sure you'd bring red to

1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:02.160
<v Speaker 1>your girlfriend, so you chose purple to kind of de

1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:04.960
<v Speaker 1>romanticize it a bit, yes, but apparently in a more

1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:09.600
<v Speaker 1>romantic I think I didn't send this to you. Okay.

1:00:09.600 --> 1:00:12.880
<v Speaker 1>So then Friday at twelve am, so to his time,

1:00:13.000 --> 1:00:16.280
<v Speaker 1>twelve my time. I haven't heard from him many hours

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:19.400
<v Speaker 1>because thanks, we lost, I didn't play. We just landed

1:00:19.400 --> 1:00:24.560
<v Speaker 1>and got cell service again. Okay, lots of periods. Thanks

1:00:24.600 --> 1:00:27.960
<v Speaker 1>we lost. Period. We didn't play period, We just landed

1:00:27.960 --> 1:00:30.360
<v Speaker 1>and got cell service again. I panicked. I didn't respond.

1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Was that rong? Do you think he's mad? I just

1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:37.320
<v Speaker 1>felt like I didn't really know. Well, first of all,

1:00:37.480 --> 1:00:39.600
<v Speaker 1>it is hard when somebody doesn't say like thanks for

1:00:39.760 --> 1:00:41.840
<v Speaker 1>reaching out or something at the end to make you

1:00:41.840 --> 1:00:43.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like, Okay, you want to engage in this conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like this. I think that you're an athlete. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>he played at u C l A. He is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make an NFL roster. He didn't play in the

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<v Speaker 1>game in a game that's pretty like crucial for him

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to make that roster season. It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>really not He's not guaranteed. No one's ever guaranteed a

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<v Speaker 1>roster spot in the NFL, and especially this guy, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's definitely on the roster. I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>would not say definitely. No, he definitely is not playing

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<v Speaker 1>in the third preseason game of the NFL season. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the most important game of the season, is right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I get these grumpy that he didn't play in the

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<v Speaker 1>third game of the preseason. He's upset, like he I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying, like it's your responsibility to console him, but

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<v Speaker 1>you also shouldn't expect him to like have all these

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<v Speaker 1>lovey dovey like open mind, like not open minded, but

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<v Speaker 1>like these long drawn out responses because he lost the game.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't play in the game. That's kind of important

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<v Speaker 1>for him to be able to make that roster like definitively,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's just upset, Like I don't. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's your starters playing in the third game. So what

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<v Speaker 1>should I have responded? Or am I reading into the

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<v Speaker 1>text wrong? Like I think that was something of like

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<v Speaker 1>here's your facts. I do think it was nice that

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, sorry, just got service back from the plane,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I get that, but it wasn't thanks for wishing

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<v Speaker 1>me good luck. He's just grumpy. It wasn't you. He's

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<v Speaker 1>just grumpy. He's I don't think he's gonna go out

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<v Speaker 1>of his way to carry on a conversation when he's

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<v Speaker 1>in a headspace where he's disappointed and thinking how tired

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<v Speaker 1>he is after a game. Well, he didn't play in

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<v Speaker 1>the game. That's time. I really think that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, he's really disappointed in the fact that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get to play, that they lost the game, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, maybe he doesn't want to talk, like you

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<v Speaker 1>get in those modes where you dont want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone. That's honestly what I interpreted it as. So

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<v Speaker 1>we all interpreted the same way, saying that he was grumby,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really shouldn't have responded. You definitely should have responded.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely should have responded. I thought about maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>liking it as a message you don't want to You

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to fight his shortness with your own shortness.

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<v Speaker 1>You also don't want to fight the more openness. Just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, like that sucks. I'm sorry you guys lost.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you gotta get some more playing time next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you guys are gonna kill it. Like something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why that seems so bad to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when I hear that, I'm like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why it does either, because it sounds perfect to me,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think maybe I've I've been in this scenario

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<v Speaker 1>where you know you got it, next time you'll get it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like no, Like the reality is like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not playing well and I don't need you to blow

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<v Speaker 1>air up my bum to make me feel better. So

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<v Speaker 1>then asking me like, what's the deal? Why didn't you play?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you guys lose? Like asking those questions that

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<v Speaker 1>seems more gnarly. I don't know what my happy medium is,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm really I'm struggling with this whole because also

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<v Speaker 1>that's like his career. So I can't just be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're fine, because I know he's not. Maybe but I

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<v Speaker 1>do know he's fine, but I asked him to open

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<v Speaker 1>up about it, maybe be like why didn't why do

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<v Speaker 1>you think you didn't get a play today or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I don't know. I think that. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>been like forty eight hours, so I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>can respond, right. I think that you made the mistake

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<v Speaker 1>by not responding I'm going to go out on a

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<v Speaker 1>limb and say that you messed up. I messed up, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can still recover. Of course, how can I recover?

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna wait until he responds back, even

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<v Speaker 1>text him now and be like, hey, look, I'm hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about you in a podcast even that, but

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<v Speaker 1>just be like, I hope they I hope things. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you're feeling better since the last time we spoke, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how are things going now? Like something like that, like simple,

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<v Speaker 1>just oh I actually kind of like that. Thanks, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that was actually really good. I'm lukewarm on it. Okay, wait, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is good. This is a good kicking. Tell me, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't love I don't think you refer

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<v Speaker 1>back to that night at all. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>with so sharn't anything with that night. If it's new,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna be how's your day going? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen this? Oh my gosh, I'm watching disagree. If they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna brush over it, what is that going to be

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<v Speaker 1>indicative of their forever relationship? Oh? Hey, I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>disappointed a couple of times. But just so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ignore everything that I do and say during those times,

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<v Speaker 1>no like ask him to open up about your mr

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<v Speaker 1>chance to ask him to open up about it. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not even thinking about that anymore. That's three days later.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to take him back to that dark place.

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<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be a call to action in this next

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<v Speaker 1>text that you sent to him, right, there's gonna because

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<v Speaker 1>you want a response, You want to invoke a response.

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<v Speaker 1>The response isn't going to be about that last interaction

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<v Speaker 1>about the game, about his lack of playing time. Just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope things have gotten better. By the way, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you like? What are you doing this week? Is

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<v Speaker 1>The response is going to be about what he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>now and how he's doing now, not about how disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>he was twenty hours ago. Just acknowledge the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he was disappointed. You don't know that for sure. We're

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<v Speaker 1>you're reading into his text, which is going to annoy him.

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<v Speaker 1>Acknowledge the fact that he maybe wasn't the happiest person

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<v Speaker 1>in the world by just saying something like hopefully team

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<v Speaker 1>rallis higher, I don't know, something lies. There needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be some sort of you wouldn't like somebody reading into

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<v Speaker 1>your tech. There needs to be some sort of address

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<v Speaker 1>to that. We don't know that he was, assuming he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't he was grumpy. It might have been fine, you're

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<v Speaker 1>building a bridge. You can't stop building a bridge here

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<v Speaker 1>and then just go onto the next pillar without building

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<v Speaker 1>a road across at first. We got to get from

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<v Speaker 1>here to there somehow. Okay, fine, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>you acknowledge his grumpyiness, which is a ledge. Don't say hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're grumpy. How are you now? But you

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<v Speaker 1>can't say hey, I hope you're feeling better. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>good point because then I'm assuming did you watch the game?

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't because it's preseason, right and they don't air it.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't air. Maybe look at pilots and be like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>number ninety four sucks. You would have done a way

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<v Speaker 1>better than By the way, what's going on? I feel

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<v Speaker 1>way less great about this because I don't. Also, it

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<v Speaker 1>is an ego thing on my behalf. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>want to be the person who's texted you twice, but

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<v Speaker 1>he texted you back last you didn't responded to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You left him now, he's not going to tex he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't engage in. Hopefully your and I went better or

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for him to detect you. No, No, I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get somebody who's on my side. But there's nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing urgent happening here. Do you want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him? Like? Do you want to know how he's doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you interested in? What? Like what his days looking like?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I'm getting so stressed out about

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<v Speaker 1>like talking to him. So sometimes I'm like, yeah, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see myself just like moving on. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that's just like my ego and then

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<v Speaker 1>like the pride thing of letting down walls actually admitting

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<v Speaker 1>to having like somewhat feelings attached to that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a jerk and repeat myself, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a jerking repeat myself. Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to know how his days are going? Yeah? Are you interested?

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<v Speaker 1>So then text him and say how's your day going?

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<v Speaker 1>But I've gone two days without knowing how his days going,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm kind of like I get team Mark where

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<v Speaker 1>he says Monday, be like, hey, I hope you had

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<v Speaker 1>a great weekend, but he didn't have great. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if that was Friday night, right, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he might have had a great weekend. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>had a good weekend in Cleveland. Want to watch barcelon

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<v Speaker 1>Paradise together on Fairtime tonight. What do you guys think

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<v Speaker 1>of this situation? If you guys want to weigh in,

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<v Speaker 1>give us an email. I suck at Dating at i

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<v Speaker 1>heeart media dot com. Are you team Dean? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>team Tory? Team Mark Easton hasn't said much? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>his side? You just want to sit back, relax and

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<v Speaker 1>not say anything. You want to hear your thoughts? Email

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<v Speaker 1>us I suck it Dating at ihart media dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we want to do one listening email? I do

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<v Speaker 1>have one from Madison here. I've been dating a guy

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<v Speaker 1>for three months and we hadn't yet defined it, but

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<v Speaker 1>knew we were taking it slow and headed toward a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>This is very actually, it is exactly what we've been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. Last week, however, we talked and he said

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<v Speaker 1>that he feels something might be missing for us to

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<v Speaker 1>take that step to DTR to find the relationship, and

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to take a break. I was devastated. His

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<v Speaker 1>reasoning is sometimes he doesn't appreciate something until it's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your opinions on taking a break. Uh, probably

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<v Speaker 1>not a good sign. No, I think this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is he's not into this. I'm sorry, Madison, he's not

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<v Speaker 1>feeling this. He can't say when you try to find

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<v Speaker 1>the relationship and he says, yeah, let's define it as

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<v Speaker 1>us not being together because I don't appreciate things until

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<v Speaker 1>they're gone. That's a cop out in a big way.

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably he's talking to someone else. He wants to

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<v Speaker 1>feel no guilt about that. He wants to see if

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<v Speaker 1>that can progress and escalate faster than what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>He yeah, that's appreciative thing to be doing. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>take a break after three months. I rarely relate to

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. I kind of get it. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's selfish to say, hey, I only miss something

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<v Speaker 1>when it's gone. But sometimes you really need to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to take a step away from this and

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<v Speaker 1>see if this is something that I do. I still

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<v Speaker 1>think about you. Do I still want to hear about

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<v Speaker 1>your day and text you about that. Do I still

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<v Speaker 1>want to be engaged? Sometimes you take a step back.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I agree with Mark. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's necessarily a good sign for Madison. Here. You might

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<v Speaker 1>as well take the step back now before you're a

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<v Speaker 1>year in and he needs a break, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>move on. If this guy comes a call in a

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<v Speaker 1>month from now, It's like, if you still a bunch,

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<v Speaker 1>you can evaluate at that point. But I think mentally

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be done with this. Yeah, how long

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<v Speaker 1>would you, guys say a break can last up until

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<v Speaker 1>before expiring? Two weeks I'll go with that. No more

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<v Speaker 1>than a month, I'd say a month. Max Easton has

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<v Speaker 1>been quiet all episode. The two weeks. Yeah, sure, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's two weeks. Are you a lot of date people

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<v Speaker 1>in between breaks? Well, so that's what I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say from Madison, take the take. Obviously, you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>fight for this. If he wants to take a break,

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<v Speaker 1>don't like be like no, no, no, Like let's say together,

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<v Speaker 1>take the break. Don't focus on him and his in

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship with him, date other people, because he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to use this time to actually like decide for yourself

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<v Speaker 1>even if he's worth staying around date and continuing the date.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, um, it sucks, she said she was devastated.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, like three months is a long time if

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<v Speaker 1>you have gotten to the three month market ninety days

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<v Speaker 1>and you still are like uncertain and do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to take a break? It's because you want to explore

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<v Speaker 1>other options. I mean three months a good time to

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<v Speaker 1>evaluate things. It's a good little you know, three once

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<v Speaker 1>at the time right where you're saying either we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>not continue dating or we're gonna become boyfriend girlfriend. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that, But what does it break mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I think a break is thinking I've spent a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time with you. Do I want to keep spending

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<v Speaker 1>time with you? And if he's not sure, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>a good sign. Advice for Madison, take the break, don't

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<v Speaker 1>fight it, go on dates with other people. If you

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<v Speaker 1>continue to think about him, maybe let him know that,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he'll continue to think about you too, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>guys can come back together. I would not put I

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<v Speaker 1>would not bet on that happening, um, but I would

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<v Speaker 1>encourage you to do other people. Hey, how would you

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<v Speaker 1>like to meet Dean at a baseball game in San Francisco? Whoever?

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<v Speaker 1>Want to do that? Better dream of yours since you

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<v Speaker 1>were a little girl. Well, the Giants are playing the

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<v Speaker 1>pod Rays on August twenty nine. That's this Wednesday, Thay

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<v Speaker 1>th that's this Thursday, everybody. He's gonna be there along

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<v Speaker 1>with Vanessa Hey and Becca Antonio scrubbing in with Becca Antonio,

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite girls. That's right. The meet and greets happening

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<v Speaker 1>at Oracle Park in San Franciso, Go. But you need

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<v Speaker 1>to ticket to the game in order to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the where the meet and greet is happening at the

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<v Speaker 1>Alaska Airlines Club level and the flight deck and it's

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<v Speaker 1>in left field. Anyway, it's five thirty on Thursday. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not an official Giants events, so game tickets don't

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<v Speaker 1>include a giveaway item or food beverage. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that's a disclaimer. I guess. Okay, your tickets at Group

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<v Speaker 1>Maddics dot Events slash Scrubbing. H Okay, this isn't Group

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<v Speaker 1>Maddics dot Events slash scrubbing, and you can get the

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<v Speaker 1>baseball ticket and meet Dean Antonia. You spell Group Maddics

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<v Speaker 1>Fair listeners g R O U P as a group

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<v Speaker 1>right there and then M A T I C S

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<v Speaker 1>Group Maddics Dot Events slash Scrubbing, watch baseball, enjoy Becca, Tania,

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<v Speaker 1>Dean and Vanessa. I'll probably put a swipe up on

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<v Speaker 1>my Instagram story to make it a little a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit easier. Group maddics is a weird website, but but

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to it and it's fantastic. It'll get you

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you're looking for. What are gonna Are you

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<v Speaker 1>gonna wear your Angel's jersey with ungler down the back

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<v Speaker 1>of it? I don't think I'm allowed to. What are

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<v Speaker 1>they playing? They're playing the Potteries, but they're nationally gaged

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<v Speaker 1>with the American League. You're fine. Probably were like a

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<v Speaker 1>Broncos jersey or something that's even weirder. I think, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I do have a Giant jersey, so yeah, because we're there,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll probably wear the Giants jersey. That's a good best

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<v Speaker 1>friend as a Giants fan, so he's like giving ungler

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<v Speaker 1>on the back of it. It does not I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually playerless. It's just as one of those generic

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<v Speaker 1>like it'll stand the test of time. I respect it. Yeah, good,

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<v Speaker 1>are you on? Mark? I'm not going a couple of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>The main reason is I was not invited. Also, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend, Labor Day weekend, going out of time with

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<v Speaker 1>my family, no one asked me to go to San Francisco. Nice. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be missed. Your president will be missed. I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to go. It sounds awesome. Actually you're going, yes, great.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're listening to this and you see Tori

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<v Speaker 1>there on Thursday, please give your advice on what she

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<v Speaker 1>should do with her NFL player boyfriends. But actually, anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy Bachelor Paradise tomorrow night, which will be Chris and

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<v Speaker 1>Crystal's wedding. We're gonna see some new arrivals, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I've done pretty well for myself in Paradise

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<v Speaker 1>up until this point. Not to toot my own horn,

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<v Speaker 1>Tori shaking her head over here. If I self deprecate,

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<v Speaker 1>she hates it. If I build myself, I too my

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<v Speaker 1>own horn, she hates it. Well, there's no winning over

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<v Speaker 1>here anyways. Uh. For the first time this season, at

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<v Speaker 1>least from my perspective, I believe I will receive a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of scrutiny on the internet. And if you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm being an idiot, please feel free to tweet

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<v Speaker 1>me and let me know how much of an idiot

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being, because I just I need to know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be good content, good, a good

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<v Speaker 1>ability for me to learn and grow from and good

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<v Speaker 1>content for the podcast at Giants Stadium. Um. Anyways, big

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<v Speaker 1>thank you to our sponsors of course, Big thank you

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<v Speaker 1>to Sleep Number and Legacy Box. Big thank you of

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<v Speaker 1>course to Tori for sharing her dating story with a

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<v Speaker 1>sports player on a team that is unknown, on a

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<v Speaker 1>position that is unknown because she prefers to keep it anonymous.

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<v Speaker 1>Big thank you to Mark Easton and of course Danielle.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna talk to you in next week, but

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<v Speaker 1>we will be talking to you from San Francisco, so

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<v Speaker 1>be sure to tune in then where maybe we will

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<v Speaker 1>suck a little bit less. Follow help by Suck at

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