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Speaker 1: that I don't make it to heaven or something weird

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Speaker 1: like that. But I also realize it's still there because

435
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Speaker 1: we're still in the fallen world and sin has consequences,

436
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Speaker 1: and those consequences could still be lingering, which perpetuates the regret.

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Speaker 1: And so that kind of lingers, partly so that we

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Speaker 1: go I don't want to do that again. I want

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Speaker 1: to get as far from that. And that's what repentance

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Speaker 1: is turning from that. I want to get as far

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Speaker 1: from that as I can, because I'm a new creation.

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Speaker 1: What do you got on this.

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Speaker 2: Pernch Yeah, man, that's all really good. That's really good.

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Speaker 2: I don't have a whole lot to add except maybe

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Speaker 2: just kind of going back to the the the exercise

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Speaker 2: of the mind, because what I have struggled with whenever

447
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Speaker 2: I mess up, or whenever I make a mistake or whatever,

448
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Speaker 2: you know, like he's talking about, is this tendency to

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Speaker 2: listen to myself instead of talking to myself. So whenever

450
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Speaker 2: I talk to myself, I say everything that you just said,

451
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Speaker 2: Jesus is the high priest, who is ever interceding for

452
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Speaker 2: me before the Father? Like these sins are as far

453
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Speaker 2: from the east as the west. Like that's not who

454
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Speaker 2: I am. I am covered. When I listen to myself,

455
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Speaker 2: the tone is different and the words are different. There

456
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Speaker 2: their accusations and they're well, man, you did this again,

457
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Speaker 2: you can't stop doing it. Well, if you really believed

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Speaker 2: in Jesus, you really had faith, there's this different tone

459
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Speaker 2: whenever I am listening to myself instead of talking to myself.

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Speaker 2: I think that this practice of preaching to ourselves needs

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Speaker 2: to be a mental habit. And again, like, I'm not

462
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Speaker 2: licensed in anything, and I'm not in semina. I'm just

463
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: a dude like the rest of not the rest of y'all.

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Speaker 2: There's probably some really smart people out there, but I'm

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Speaker 2: just a regular guy. So I'm thinking through this as

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Speaker 2: my own struggle with the same question. Here's what I'm

467
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Speaker 2: trying to do. I'm trying to spend time in God's

468
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Speaker 2: word and the truth. I'm gonna hide it, I'm gonna

469
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Speaker 2: let it dwell in me ritually, and then I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: try all day every day to preach that to myself

471
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Speaker 2: because inevitably there will be these attacks that I will

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Speaker 2: launch on myself to start listening to those lies. And

473
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Speaker 2: that's really the difference, is listening to the truth or

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Speaker 2: listening to their lies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so good, that's great. I would meditate in

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Speaker 1: the psalms, particularly for you, Psalm fifty one. Have mercy

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Speaker 1: on me, O God, according to your steadfast love, according

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Speaker 1: to your abundant mercy, blot out my transgressions, Wash me

479
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Speaker 1: thoroughly from my iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.

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Speaker 1: For I know my transgression, my sin is ever before

481
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Speaker 1: me against you, and you only have I sinned and

482
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: done what is evil in your sight, so that you

483
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Speaker 1: may be justified in your words and blameless in your judgment.

484
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Speaker 1: I was brought forth in iniquity and in sended. My

485
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: mother conceived me. Behold you delight in truth and inward being,

486
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Speaker 1: and you teach me wisdom and the secret heart. Purge

487
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Speaker 1: me with hissop, and I shall be clean, wash me,

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Speaker 1: and I shall be whiter than snow. Let me hear

489
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Speaker 1: joy and gladness. Let the bones that you have broken rejoice.

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Speaker 1: Hide your face from my sins and blot out my iniquities.

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Speaker 1: Create in me a clean heart, O God, and renew

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Speaker 1: a right spirit within me, and on and on and on.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't meditate and stuff like that, and just jump

494
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Speaker 1: into the psalms and just hear David saying the same

495
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Speaker 1: thing you're saying, how do I deal with this regret?

496
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Speaker 1: And you go through the word of God by going

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Speaker 1: to the cross and remembering what has been done for me,

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Speaker 1: Drew says. In the next question, here, Drew says, is

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Speaker 1: someone trying to get their mental health right? During the

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Speaker 1: Winter Blues quote, I told myself, I'm gonna start hitting

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Speaker 1: the gym. What are some workout routines that you do

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Speaker 1: to stay consistent in them? By the way, from the

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Speaker 1: bottom of them of my heart, thank you, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for everything you do. You're truly you have truly shown

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Speaker 1: me the type of man I strive to be. You're

506
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Speaker 1: making a difference in a lot more lives than you think.

507
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: God is using you ps come to Northwest Indiana about

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Speaker 1: by a Valparaiso. I love y'all, Drew.

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Speaker 2: Does that get old? Man?

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Speaker 1: No? No, But when I hear that, I just think, oh, dude,

511
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm so far from your hero, you know, I

512
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Speaker 1: am when you When I hear things like you have

513
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Speaker 1: shown me the type of man I strive to be,

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Speaker 1: I just think, man, you got I have so far

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Speaker 1: to go.

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Speaker 2: But I think I think the point is is it

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Speaker 2: in them seeing the fruit of your life and then

518
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Speaker 2: hearing you in humility say that that's the model man.

519
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Speaker 2: That's what they're saying. They're like, man, I hope that

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Speaker 2: I have fruit in my life like that, But I

521
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Speaker 2: can also still be on a path of humility that says, man,

522
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Speaker 2: I am. I am still a sinner and I'm still

523
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Speaker 2: in need of God's love and his grace, And so

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Speaker 2: I meant the part about like come to Wyoming or

525
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Speaker 2: come to Ohio, come to wherever. Ain't nobody asking me

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Speaker 2: to go anywhere?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 2: People in separate emails, they they keep asking you come here.

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Speaker 1: You have been on the road with me.

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Speaker 2: My wife is like, hey, come home. You know that's

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Speaker 2: what I get.

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Speaker 1: You've been on the road with me, and you've seen

533
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: people start collecting around you to just talk. Like Burnie

534
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: from the podcast, we still need to do a podcast tour.

535
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Speaker 1: We have to just do it, you know, have to

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Speaker 1: figure that out. Okay, Sorry, I love the rest question.

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Speaker 1: The question is great because and I think we've been

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Speaker 1: asked this before, but it's great because we have very

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Speaker 1: different answers. I love this. I think the question is

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Speaker 1: what are some workout routines that you do and how

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Speaker 1: do you stay consistent in them? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, So he's got winter, like he's experienced winter.

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Speaker 2: So this is like a north This is not South

544
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Speaker 2: central Texas.

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Speaker 1: He's at Valpo, which gets pretty cold and overcast like

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Speaker 1: I did when we lived in Nashville. Yep. So my

547
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: answer is very different than Burns. And my answer has

548
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: stayed the same for man. I used to say six years,

549
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Speaker 1: seven years, but now it has to have been more

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Speaker 1: than that since I've been doing this, maybe ten I

551
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: mean it's yeah, probably since about twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: So what happened was, I'll try say this quickly. Amber

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Speaker 1: and I used to do you remember P ninety x

554
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Speaker 1: back in the day. So Amber and I, like when

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Speaker 1: we first got married, we used to do P. Nine

556
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: that comes off this Beach Body app. You download the

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Speaker 1: Beach Body app. By the way, absolutely no sponsoring at

558
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: all going on in this situation. I'm just going to

559
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: tell you tell it the way it is. We used

560
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Speaker 1: to go to Beach Body app and we'd watch P

561
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Speaker 1: nin e X. Well, one day I saw on that

562
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: app there's other there's a lot of other things on there,

563
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Speaker 1: and one of them is called body Beast. It's by

564
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: this guy named Segie, and I was like, I'll check

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Speaker 1: that out. So it's it's this. It's a strength training

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00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: using weights, using heavyweights exercise, and it's focusing on specific

567
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: muscle groups. So like chest is one workout, back is one,

568
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: shoulders is one, cardio is one legs is one, core

569
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: is one. Arms as one. So it's all divided and

570
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: there's like ten ten of these little videos and I

571
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: tried it and I actually really started liking it. This

572
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: guy Sagi, And so what I did is I downloaded

573
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Speaker 1: it on my phone and I found that it helped

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Speaker 1: me go to especially on the road. Like I'm say,

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Speaker 1: I'm in a hotel, I could just press play and

576
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: Segi there is Segie and he's like, here we go

577
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: and we're doing this workout. And it forced me not

578
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: to just peddle around or go what am I going

579
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Speaker 1: to do today, or like what kind of work out

580
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Speaker 1: I'm going to do? Fast forward. I'm still doing it

581
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: like a decade later. I did it this morning, and

582
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: so like here's I go to my phone and I

583
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Speaker 1: just hit this, guys.

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Speaker 2: This is bulk back. If you want huge back lead,

585
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Speaker 2: let's get it guys.

586
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Speaker 1: So then starts this warm up. Right there's my buddy

587
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Speaker 1: Chris right there and my buddy Brian.

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Speaker 2: If you have limited a quiz.

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Speaker 1: So these three guys, like I've listened to them for

590
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Speaker 1: like ten years, and so I usually do like Chest

591
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: on Mondays, back on Tuesdays, Cardio on Wednesdays, shoulders on Thursdays,

592
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: arms on Fridays legs on the weekend like I have it.

593
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: I've been doing that forever. Yeah, that is my way

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Speaker 1: to answer your question. How do I stay consistent? I

595
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: just I go all right, some days I'm tired, I

596
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: don't want to. I just hit play and here's Sigi

597
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: and he's like, let's do this.

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Speaker 2: We bump. Yeah that's good man.

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00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: And I still get sore, which is important too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, okay, So I'll go quick shout out

601
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Speaker 2: to my buddy Andy at at swift Fit at X.

602
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 2: I've worked out and trained with him for a long time.

603
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Speaker 2: One of the things, and I've learned a lot from

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Speaker 2: him just about the body, about how things work.

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Speaker 1: And so.

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Speaker 2: One thing that he told me me a while back

607
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Speaker 2: that I really believe is just the body wants to

608
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Speaker 2: be fooled, so, you know, changing up. So for me,

609
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna do like yoga or like a bickroom

610
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 2: yoga or like a sauna on a Monday, something that's

611
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: you know, just totally different than the next day when

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do like a hill and outside, like he'll

613
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Speaker 2: repeat workout, I'm gonna go mountain biking. I'm gonna do

614
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Speaker 2: some strength training with Andy in the gym. I'm gonna,

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Speaker 2: as we've talked about before, I'm gonna go on some

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Speaker 2: trail runs for like two or three hours. I know,

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Speaker 2: if you're like in a place where it's snow and

618
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Speaker 2: you know, unless you want to be like Rocky, maybe

619
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Speaker 2: that's not a you know, it's not an option. But

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Speaker 2: so I would just say for me, I think Granger

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Speaker 2: has a good point having a plan. I try to

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Speaker 2: set that at the beginning of the week. I don't

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Speaker 2: have Sigiz as name, I don't have him, but I

624
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Speaker 2: think having a plan so that you don't have to

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Speaker 2: wake up that morning and be like, Okay, what am

626
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Speaker 2: I going to do? Because you're not going to do it.

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Speaker 1: You're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Trouble, yeah, But I just I try to have some

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Speaker 2: accountability to it, meet some guys for some things, and

630
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: just try to like fool my body and surprise my

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Speaker 2: body a little bit. Because yesterday, instead of instead of

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Speaker 2: doing a he'll repeat workout, Andy and I went to

633
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Speaker 2: a track and we did a track workout, and I

634
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Speaker 2: guarantee you that shocked my body because I haven't run,

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Speaker 2: you know, for two hundreds in a long time. Like

636
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Speaker 2: you know, kind of sprinting after you know, all of

637
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: our warm ups and everything. So I know that you're

638
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 2: probably looking for something or like what Granger is talking about,

639
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Speaker 2: because a lot of that is inside. But I think

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun is just trying new things and

641
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Speaker 2: getting into different things that will push your body. And also,

642
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Speaker 2: I guess the most important thing, what's your goal, like

643
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Speaker 2: understanding your.

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00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: Goals fighting mental health?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so for fighting mental health, but I'm I think

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Speaker 2: that that could be physical activity is one of the

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Speaker 2: things he's using to fight mental health. But as far

648
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Speaker 2: as like your physical goals, like is there any that

649
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: you have you want to run a race or you

650
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 2: just want to get you know, bigger, you want to

651
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: get stronger, like what I think that could dictate maybe

652
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 2: what you get into.

653
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, that great point. And as as I promised you,

654
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: two completely different answers, same same result in staying consistent.

655
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: Like Bernie as long as I've known, I've known him

656
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: a long time, last everyone years, You've been really consistent

657
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 1: with that the many years. And so can I ask

658
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: you a personal question though you don't have to answer this,

659
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: how much is Andy.

660
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 2: Like per hour?

661
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to answer but maybe ballpark.

662
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 2: It's it's not cheap for somebody like that. You're gonna

663
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 2: pay between I don't know, seventy five and one fifty

664
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: an hour, okay, just depending on where you are, what

665
00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: level of certifications they have. You can also getting group sessions,

666
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,479
Speaker 2: which I'll do with Andy sometimes and it's awesome because

667
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: there's this one girl, Jess that I jump into a

668
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: group session with. Yeah, and the rate's lower, but she

669
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: is a beast and she will push me, and Andy's

670
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: training both of us. So you could also find if

671
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: finance was a thing, you could find somebody that could

672
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: do a group session.

673
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: So find your flaw, Drew. If your flaw is, man,

674
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm just granger. I'm sorry. I'm not gonna hit play

675
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: on Sigi Like, I'm just not gonna do that, then

676
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: I go, okay, go to the gym and find an Andy.

677
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: Every gym has one, yep, every single gym has one,

678
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: and go tell them that, hey, I'm want to get

679
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: rid of these winter blues. I'm gonna get going. And

680
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, I've got a spot on at seven

681
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: thirty on the weekdays, can you do that? And you're like, yeah,

682
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: I guess like, here we go and get ready and

683
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna show up at seven thirty and if it's

684
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: you know, if it's seven thirty five, he's probably texting

685
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: you like, hey, bro, you on your way, and that

686
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: kind of motivation. Maybe maybe, Drew, maybe you need that.

687
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: And that's a cool thing I went through during the

688
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: during like the twenty twenty season. I remember I did

689
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: that with Tyler and Parker and I still work out

690
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: with those guys on Mondays and so having that accountability.

691
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: But we were going to the gym with another trainer

692
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: and he was thankfully he wasn't charging us. He just

693
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: that was his workout time. But man, it's a lot

694
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: of accountability when you have someone waiting for you to

695
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: get there. So, yeah, there you go, Drew. That's a

696
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: lot of options for you. But I'm happy. I think

697
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: I think you're right in thinking that it's really good

698
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: to get out in sweat.

699
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: Is it Rocky for Is that the one where he's

700
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: in Russia? Yeah, all right, we go watch that too.

701
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: That'd be some kid motivation. Just get out in the snow. Man,

702
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: he's like carrying logs on his you know, shoulders through

703
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:49,959
Speaker 2: the snow.

704
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really good.

705
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: I have a tiger.

706
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 1: Is that? The one? Yeah? Nice question comes from Dolly,

707
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: who I love that name, says, hey there, thank you

708
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: so much for sharing your story and spreading the God.

709
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: Y'all are amazing. I've been married for five years now,

710
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 1: and he keeps putting his mother's needs ahead of mine.

711
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: For example, she taught my two year old son to

712
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: call her mom, and he defended her. Wow. She used

713
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: to barge into our home when she felt like it

714
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: without a call or a text, and he would defend her.

715
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: She is extremely controlling, manipulative, and possessive. All right, Dolly,

716
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I would hang on a second.

717
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: It keeps going. There's another page to this. Her twenty

718
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: six year old son and thirty eight year old daughter

719
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: live at home and don't have anything going for them.

720
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: I kindly and politely set some hard boundaries, but my

721
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: husband just doesn't get it. He expects me to give

722
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: up my peace and privacy for her, and I cannot.

723
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: There are hundreds more examples and I could provide, but

724
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: I think you get the point. We've tried counseling and

725
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: married ministry at church, and everyone tells him the same thing.

726
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: He agrees to the face, but he doesn't change. I'm

727
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: getting exhausted, and we also have a four and two

728
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: year old boys. We are also new Christians, and I

729
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: feel like I'm doing all the things wrong, but I

730
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: don't know what else to do myself. I cannot allow

731
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: myself nor my children to suffer at her hand or

732
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: her twisted ways. Thank you, Dolly, Okay, Dolly, thanks for

733
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: the question. That's crazy just hearing her teaching your son

734
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: to could call her mom.

735
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a hard stop for me.

736
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: Man, Like, no way. Yeah, we see these kind of

737
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: emails a lot, but that's that's an extent.

738
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: That's different. Yeah, that's different. And we were just saying

739
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: on one of the earlier breaks, like we don't really

740
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: know like the extent of these situations. We can say,

741
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 2: you know, oh grace and like consider yourself and whatever,

742
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: but it's like you may be in the middle of

743
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: like a very crazy, toxic situation.

744
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we just can't.

745
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: We always don't really know this. Uh. The the discouraging,

746
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 2: the most discouraging part about this is that they have

747
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: been to people at the church, they've been through counseling,

748
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: they've and he's heard the unhealthy nature of this, and

749
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: he still will say yes to their face and then

750
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 2: refuse to change. Yeah. Uh, that's a tough spot, Dolly,

751
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I guess that's yeah.

752
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: There's a there's a couple of things. I hate. I

753
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 1: hate to even say this, but I think I should

754
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: because we need to uncover every rock here, turn over

755
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: every rock. I think there's a good chance you're in

756
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: you're in a not so healthy church. I think it's

757
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: a pretty good I could say that, whether or not

758
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: I know you or not, I know your story or not.

759
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance, especially as a new Christian,

760
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: that you ended up at a a very secret, sensitive

761
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: church that is more interested in reaching the lost and

762
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: less interested about shepherding the current flock that they have.

763
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: See that a lot as I travel, I see it

764
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: a lot. And so when you say you did this

765
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: married ministry at church, I kind of see it's like

766
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: a here, here's some information, uncle, do it instead of

767
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: let's walk it together, how's it going, Let me text you,

768
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: let's have coffee, let's talk.

769
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great question that she doesn't say, like

770
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 2: does your husband have like elders in the church or

771
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: or godly men, wise counsel in his life that he

772
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: is accountable to and meeting with regularly, that will speak

773
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: truth and he will receive it from them. Yes, Okay,

774
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: let's say that she answers that she says he does not.

775
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: What do you say then, because.

776
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, because of what I think, what I think she's

777
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: talking about with the church is typically it's like, hey,

778
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: on the on the fifteenth of next month, we're doing

779
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: a married session, So all you married couples, come on.

780
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: We're going to come in at seven pm at the

781
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: sanctuary and we're all going to get in there and

782
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,439
Speaker 1: get motivated and bringing in a guest speaker and they're

783
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: going to talk and him and his wife are going

784
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: to discuss and then you go out and you live

785
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: your life as opposed to like a one on one

786
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 1: like you're saying, which is discipleships called it's literally called discipleship.

787
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: And so I want to see that. I think I

788
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: don't think you have that, And that's none of this

789
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: is an accusation. I'm just trying to, like I said,

790
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: uncover every rock here. So to your question, Burns, if

791
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: if she comes back and says he doesn't have anybody

792
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: or he just has the guys at his work. I

793
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: want you to know that all of this is on him.

794
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: The mother in law thing, I'm not worried about her.

795
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: This the psycho thing she's doing to your son. Do

796
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: not concern me. That secondary next to the husband that

797
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: is defending her. He has to stop. The mother in

798
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: law will not stop unless the husband steps in and

799
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: goes Hang on a second, this is my wife, this

800
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: is my family. Mom. I love you to death boundaries,

801
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: but that's going too far here, And so what do

802
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: we do? I want to answer your question, what do

803
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: we do if she says he doesn't have anybody speaking in,

804
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 1: he doesn't have coffee with anybody, Because what you don't

805
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: want to do is say you need some friends. Yeah

806
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: you need to start having coffee with some Christian men,

807
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: like don't don't do that.

808
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna run for the hills.

809
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: He's run for the hills. So how do.

810
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: We m I mean, I think that byen nature, I

811
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 2: will hang out with some of my and build relationship

812
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: with other guy friends that are husband's to my wife's friends,

813
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: just because what's her name, Dolly? Dolly, Dolly's like, hey,

814
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: Julie and her husband are coming over. We're gonna have

815
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,959
Speaker 2: some burgers and hang out. And then you just meet

816
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: Mike for the first time, and you know, you're like, oh,

817
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: Mike's kind of cool. But then you and Julie, you

818
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 2: really see her as someone that is a godly woman,

819
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 2: and she's told you about Mike and like he's a

820
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: strong believer, and you're like, he could be a good influence.

821
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: And maybe you just start hanging out with people that

822
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: you feel like could be an influence and see if

823
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: those you can't force it, but maybe you see if

824
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: those relationships kind of click on things that are not

825
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: related to marriage advice or you know, counsel or anything

826
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 2: like that, like, oh, hey, Mike's a huge Cowboys fan,

827
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 2: so are you? Like, And then all of a sudden,

828
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: there's like some kind of trust that starts to he's

829
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: gonna have have to like trust somebody. He's gonna have

830
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: to trust somebody to speak into his life, yea other

831
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: than his mother.

832
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

833
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: So it sounds like.

834
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of more things for Dolly not to do.

835
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: And another thing not to do Dolly is don't go

836
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: to another man and tell him the problems that you're

837
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: having with your husband. As if he's going to be

838
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: able to speak to your husband. Yeah, that's a dangerous

839
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: place to go.

840
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 2: Battle tale kind of thing.

841
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: There's all kinds of bad things that couldn't come out

842
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: of that. So the other thing is usually with a

843
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: question like this, after two hundred and eighteen podcast, I

844
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: will go to grace and I'll say I want to

845
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: make sure, Dolly that you are having grace for your husband,

846
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: that you are not turning into this jaded recluse that's

847
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: like protecting your kids and you're creating a separation. I

848
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: want to make sure that it's that's not happening, because

849
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: that's gonna make everything worse. I understand protecting your children

850
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: from her twisted way, as you said, but at the

851
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: same time, I want you to be still open with

852
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: your husband in a way that's like, Hey, we're a team,

853
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this together. Are you having date nights?

854
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: That's a good one, right, Like, Hey, I got ass

855
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: reservations at your favorite restaurant. Not your favorite restaurant, Dolly,

856
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: but his serve him in a healthy way. Don't take

857
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 1: that the wrong way, in a healthy way. Like I've

858
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: made reservations at so and so restaurant on Friday night

859
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: and we're gonna go out. And then during that conversation,

860
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: it's not nagging on him, it's not telling him his

861
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: mom's horrible and twisted and she's ruining the kids and

862
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: can you believe she did the It's more like, I

863
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: want to talk about raising our kids in the best

864
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: way possible. Let's kick around some things that are helpful

865
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: right now in our life, and let's kick around some

866
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: things that aren't so helpful, and let him join that

867
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 1: conversation where he feels like he's helping fix some things,

868
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: not you, And you're not accusing, You're just like, what

869
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: are some things totally hypothetical? Dolly? What are some things

870
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: right now that's giving our kids anxiety? And you start

871
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: naming everything but the mother in law and let him go, yeah, mom,

872
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, mom's kind of been doing some weird stuff.

873
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: And then you could be like, like, what, let him

874
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: lead it, let him create, let him see the problem,

875
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: and then start to try to fix it himself. It's

876
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: like a psychological trick here.

877
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: That's no. I think that that's good. I would I

878
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: would also say that date night probably needs to come

879
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: after a date night that doesn't talk about any of that.

880
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: That's good.

881
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: If you don't have the foundation, Like I'm just if

882
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: your marriage is not at a place where you guys

883
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: can openly be vulnerable and discuss things, you need to

884
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 2: build that trust. So that means get away from the

885
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: kids and his mom and everything and just go connect

886
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: with your husband and just start to ask other questions

887
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: about him. Hey, what's going on with you? No, we

888
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 2: haven't been able to do this in a while, Like.

889
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And what you didn't mean, You didn't mean

890
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: what's going on with you? You meant like, tell me,

891
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: tell me what's going on at work? Yeah, that's what

892
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: you mean.

893
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and the things that you guys both love,

894
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: like talk about those things, and hey, you want to

895
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: go on a trip, Well, where will we go if

896
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 2: we go on a trip, like start to just really

897
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: you initiate building that foundation. If it's not there. If

898
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 2: it is there, that's the date that the granger just said,

899
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: that's the date that you need to have and start

900
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: to just ask those questions, not in a condescending way,

901
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: but in a way that's very genuine and authentic.

902
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough. You have to swallow a lot

903
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: of pride, Dolly.

904
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: To do this, and it probably won't be I mean

905
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: against speculating, but it probably won't be the way you

906
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: think it's like, it won't go down the way you

907
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: think it's gonna go down. It's not gonna be one

908
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 2: moment where he's like, you know what, we gotta cut

909
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: my mom out. It's probably not gonna happen like that,

910
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 2: but there could be like a slow transition to some

911
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 2: healthy boundaries. And it sounds like that's what you're after, So.

912
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. I think the last thing I could

913
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: possibly add to this, Dolly, is to make sure you

914
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: are also getting poured into We're talking a lot about

915
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: him and his discipleship and men pouring into his life

916
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: and church and things that help him, ministries and counseling

917
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: that help him. Make sure you also have a lot

918
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: of people, or at least some good biblical women that

919
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: are pouring into you, not men. And this should come

920
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:03,760
Speaker 1: through a healthy church. If you have a women's small

921
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: group or a you're working through a book of the Bible.

922
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: Amber right now is working through the Book of Job

923
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: with like eight or nine women and all there's like

924
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: four or five churches represented there. So it doesn't have

925
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: to be your church. It could be different churches. Just

926
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: that people in your neighborhood, like people that live around you.

927
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 1: Make sure you're make sure you are getting poured into.

928
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: That is huge. Make sure you have a good, healthy,

929
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: quiet time with God for yourself as a new Christian,

930
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: reading your Bible as an old Christian as well, making

931
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: time every day at some point of the day, whereas

932
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: it's you and your Bible and the simple prayer of God.

933
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 1: Reveal yourself to me today. Reveal yourself in your word.

934
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: Read Psalm one nineteen and see how the Psalmist is

935
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: in love with the Word of God, and pray that

936
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: you could think and want and desire the Word like that.

937
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: So make sure that's part of the day you're getting

938
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: poured into. These are You can't neglect yourself. You've got

939
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: to keep the oxygen mask on yourself. When you're trying

940
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,399
Speaker 1: to fix your husband and your your kids and your

941
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: twisted mother in law and all that stuff. Make sure

942
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: you got yourself taken care of as well. That's good, dude.

943
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: I think we've we've we've run down a lot of

944
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: stuff today. I actually could we could hit one more

945
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: real quickly from Maddie. Hey, my name is Mattie. I'm

946
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: twenty six. I have a degree in business, and right

947
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: now I'm working for a construction equipment rental company called

948
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: sun Belt Rentals. I've heard of them, and part of

949
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: me doesn't know if I want to stay forever. My

950
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: dream job is to be a manager of an artist,

951
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: specifically a country music artist, but I have no idea

952
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: how to even start that. Help me. Thank you. I

953
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: love how God is using you.

954
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 2: Okay, you're lucky day, Maddie. I've actually been thinking about

955
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: launching a country music career and I'm looking for a manager.

956
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 1: So now you know where to start, Maddie, start with Bernie.

957
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 2: I wish that was true, Mattie, I really do, But

958
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: for me, it's not.

959
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: Love the dreams. I love the good construction equipment rental

960
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: company that you're working for. You're not gonna You're not

961
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: going to bypass that. Getting into country music management is

962
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: extremely difficult, extremely difficult. But I'll answer your question quickly.

963
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: You say, how do I start? You start by meeting

964
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: people in that industry. And so that industry is going

965
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: to be The majority is in Nashville, there is some

966
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: in New York, in Austin and LA. As far as

967
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: country music, the majority of country music managers are going

968
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: to be in Nashville. And just a heads up, Bernie

969
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: knows this as well. That job is going to start

970
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: off as an internship making nothing. So you're gonna have

971
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: to give up time and energy and all this stuff

972
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: you got going on with other things. You're twenty six

973
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: years old, and go do it for free, and do

974
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: it for nothing at a chance that maybe one day

975
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: you'll get taken on as a full time employee. And

976
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna you're gonna burn out and you're gonna

977
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: realize being a country music manager it's very difficult. You're

978
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 1: always on call. You're like a fireman working twenty four

979
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: to seven putting out fires. And I don't know if

980
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: it's going to be all yes.

981
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 2: So maybe before Maddy moves to Nashville or New York,

982
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 2: maybe do a little more research. Maybe go to a

983
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: local show and find a local band and say, hey,

984
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: do you guys have management. I'd love to talk to

985
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: them and just ask their manager, Hey, what does this

986
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: job look like. I'm interested in it. I think once

987
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 2: you start to get more educated, it probably starts to

988
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: back the veil of you know, this shiny career and

989
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: it's like you get to know the real And if

990
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 2: all of that still sounds appealing and you have like

991
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 2: gained all this knowledge, then pack it up.

992
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: Love it. It's good all right, guys, Thanks so much.

993
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: It's all we got today. See you next week. Thanks

994
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: for joining me on the Grangersmith podcast. I appreciate all

995
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996
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