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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host with

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald's. I just wanna let you know a couple

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Speaker 1: of things. Ladies in journals, It's important to understand that

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Speaker 1: everybody travels a different path to success. That's because your

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Speaker 1: brand is different, the challenges your face in life is different.

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Speaker 1: So I bring people on the show to talk about

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Speaker 1: their journeys. There there are missteps their success stories, because

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Speaker 1: in the process of creating success stories, there are missteps,

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Speaker 1: and you need to understand that there are some valleys

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Speaker 1: My next guest as a Eustonian. I'm from Houston, so

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Speaker 1: onto the show. It's Chris Gaston. Chris Gaston fold founded

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Speaker 1: Family First Sports Firm with his wife in twenty and eighteen.

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Speaker 1: The agency Family First focused on empowerment, economic growth, and

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Speaker 1: black excellence. The agency represents DeAndre Darren Darren Fox of

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Speaker 1: the That's just correct, I say the right deer in

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Speaker 1: Fox of the Sacramento Kings. Gaston is signed the largest

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Speaker 1: grad That's why I went to school and the toughest

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Cavalier Leers. He originally started out the New

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Speaker 1: York Knicks. Gaston made his way in the industry through

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Speaker 1: player development, working with many of the top players in

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Speaker 1: making conversation A man who understands relationships, Mr Chris Gaston. Yes,

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Speaker 1: sir man man, pleasure to have me man, know you

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Speaker 1: was in Houston native, so I was good talking to

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Speaker 1: a fellow Houston guy. You know, we're very proud. You

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Speaker 1: our hearts and man, wherever we go, well you have

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Speaker 1: to you know, I will also be broadcasting on KTSU,

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Speaker 1: so this show would be area KSU and the Houston

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Speaker 1: you know, again you have a brand that you developed.

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Speaker 1: And I started that out by saying relationships because when

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Speaker 1: journey right quick, Chris, because everybody wants to be an agent.

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Speaker 1: But you can be an agent, but if you don't

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Speaker 1: have the relationships, then you don't have talent to sign

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Speaker 1: to these big deals that we just talked about in

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Speaker 1: and you know these relationships don't happen. It's just like

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Speaker 1: building trusts. You can't build trusts overnight. So these relationships

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Speaker 1: are ten, fifteen, twenty years in the making. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not an overnight success. You know I started, Man,

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Speaker 1: So you know, everybody wants to be a Rich Paul

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Speaker 1: make sure I get low protective ball. It's just a

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Speaker 1: little small nuances. It's nothing crazy and over the top.

427
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Speaker 1: It's just being a hat. And the main thing for

428
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Speaker 1: these guys to trust you is you gotta have a

429
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Speaker 1: relationship with I don't have a relationship with you. They're

430
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Speaker 1: not gonna trust you with the most precious thing, which

431
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 1: is the basketball, with their game. Okay, cool, And that's

432
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people miss out on the relationship part.

433
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Speaker 1: Those are the best coaches that relationship with their players,

434
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Speaker 1: players that run through a brick wall for them. Right.

435
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Speaker 1: You know. Now we talked about empowerment. Let's go to

436
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Speaker 1: economic growth. Let's talk about that from your firm. We're

437
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 1: talking about Chris Gaston. He is an amazing company out

438
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Speaker 1: of Houston, Texas and found in Tween with his wife

439
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Speaker 1: called Family First Sports Firm. Talk. We talked about empowerment

440
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Speaker 1: that your firm. Let's talk about the economic growth. Yeah,

441
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Speaker 1: I didn't hear the last part. You could. I apologize.

442
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Speaker 1: As we were talking about your firm, you know that

443
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Speaker 1: you founded in Tween called Family First Sports Firm. We

444
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Speaker 1: talked about empowerment. Let's talk about the economic growth that

445
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Speaker 1: you deal with your players. Right. Well, one thing we

446
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 1: want to do is we want to put the dollar

447
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Speaker 1: black back in the black community. You know. Um. We

448
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Speaker 1: we want to invest in small businesses. We want to

449
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: support um young entrepreneurs. We want to get like I said,

450
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Speaker 1: we want to we were voice for the unheard. We

451
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,360
Speaker 1: want to speak for the unheard. Man, it's not saying

452
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Speaker 1: we're not gonna do with big companies and stuff. I mean,

453
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Speaker 1: we gotta deal with Nike, we gotta we do deals

454
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Speaker 1: with Red Bulls. So that's not to say we're not done.

455
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Speaker 1: We're not stupid. When we say economic growth. We want

456
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Speaker 1: to put the dollar black back in the black community.

457
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Speaker 1: You know. We want these players to help their family out,

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Speaker 1: but do it in a way that's gonna create growth,

459
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Speaker 1: not just say, man, mom, here go a hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars like no, Mama, we're gonna create a company or

461
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Speaker 1: escorp or LLC. You're gonna be the you know, create

462
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Speaker 1: a foundation and grow it, you know, not just here

463
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Speaker 1: goes some money, like no, you take this money and multiplied,

464
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Speaker 1: you know, making times ten, you know, teen x and

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Speaker 1: growing in something else. So that's what we mean when

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Speaker 1: we say economic growth. Just teaching these players financial literacy

467
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Speaker 1: and you know, financial growth. And that's what so many,

468
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Speaker 1: not just in basketball, but at all sports. The financial

469
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Speaker 1: literacy part fails so many because they don't have mentors.

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Speaker 1: Because I consider your mentor too to these young men,

471
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Speaker 1: because as well as an agent representative so black excellence.

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Speaker 1: You know, I hear black excellent throughout your force. I

473
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 1: hear the ability to give back to the black community.

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Speaker 1: That's all part of the empowerment. Now, we went through

475
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Speaker 1: a very amazing season that happened this year because of

476
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Speaker 1: COVID eighteen and the civil unrest. We saw the actual

477
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Speaker 1: NBA walk off the court basically based on the incident

478
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Speaker 1: that happened in Milwaukee. How did your players deal with

479
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Speaker 1: that and how did you deal with it? Chris Um.

480
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: It was a very emotional time. As you know. Damien Dodson,

481
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: he went to Yatees High School which grew up in

482
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Speaker 1: the same neighborhood, same high school as George Floyd. So

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Speaker 1: they hit close to home. And you know Stephen Jackson,

484
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Speaker 1: you know, he's a good friend of mine. He's one

485
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Speaker 1: of the people are starting to business. One of the

486
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Speaker 1: first NBA players I started working out. Uh, you know

487
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Speaker 1: that he was very close to George Floyd. I mean

488
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Speaker 1: they called each other twins, so that I mean they

489
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Speaker 1: hit home for us. They hit close to and actually

490
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Speaker 1: one of the players and there I knew from Yates

491
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Speaker 1: High schools George Floyd was his cousin, which I didn't know,

492
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Speaker 1: And so they're close to home. So we participated in

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Speaker 1: the marches in Houston, um Fox, you know, we went

494
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Speaker 1: and flew up the Sacramento participated in peaceful protests. And

495
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: I say peaceful because you know we want the ones

496
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Speaker 1: riding and looting. But that's a story for another day.

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Speaker 1: But participating in peace for protests and Sacramento. And we

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Speaker 1: just encouraged our players to vote and speak out on

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Speaker 1: any issues. Foxes very vocal on his issues and even

500
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Speaker 1: even wore entire racists on the back of this jersey

501
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Speaker 1: in the bubble. You know, so all our players are

502
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Speaker 1: very outspoken and you know, very vocal about the movement.

503
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Speaker 1: Um that was that's going on. Now, that's really important

504
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Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know, if social media

505
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Speaker 1: plays a role in that, you know, because you have

506
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Speaker 1: to be conscious of social media can be a double

507
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Speaker 1: as sword. You know, you could post the wrong thing

508
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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden people criticize it for

509
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Speaker 1: you post the right thing and then get increased. The

510
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Speaker 1: engage meant that you want what what what? What? What

511
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Speaker 1: message are you trying to allow your players to put

512
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: out there? Like say, you talk about community of all,

513
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: when you talk about black excellent, you talk about economic growth.

514
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Speaker 1: We talked about empowerment, but what is your company? You know,

515
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Speaker 1: because you say family first, what does that mean when

516
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: you say family first? Family first is exactly what it means.

517
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Speaker 1: Your family is first. And just like a real family,

518
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Speaker 1: you're not gonna always disagree. I mean not, I mean people,

519
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna always agree. I always gonna be on

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Speaker 1: the same page. But at the end of the day,

521
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Speaker 1: you know, it's all of you know, we all lived

522
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Speaker 1: together for the coming, for the coming goods. So that's

523
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Speaker 1: exactly what it means. And family first means, you know,

524
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Speaker 1: empowering your people. It's okay to grow with the people

525
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Speaker 1: that got you to where you are, you know, and

526
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Speaker 1: most agencies, most companies, I see, guys make it to

527
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Speaker 1: a certain status and then the agency takes it from there, like, okay,

528
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Speaker 1: we got it from here. Now you know, uh, your

529
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Speaker 1: youth coach, you coach, your mom and your daddy. You

530
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Speaker 1: know they helped you get to this point. But now

531
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Speaker 1: they're done. You know, we got it from here. Obviously,

532
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: the player is gonna grow and they're not gonna be

533
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: depended upon their family and things of that nature. But

534
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Speaker 1: we still try to do things to make sure that

535
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Speaker 1: the family is important. Like when Darren signed his Max contract,

536
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Speaker 1: you know, we had a big it's a picture on

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Speaker 1: instated a big family celebration in Houston. You know, all

538
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Speaker 1: black gutar. It's probably over thirty people there, you know,

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Speaker 1: so we know we celebrated together as a family, not

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Speaker 1: me and Dearn in a private room by ourself, you know,

541
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Speaker 1: popping a bottle and all. We celebrated with everybody that

542
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Speaker 1: was important in his life. You know, we celebrated that together.

543
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Speaker 1: That was accomplishment for everybody. Because it takes a village,

544
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: but it takes a village. But they also lives in

545
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Speaker 1: a different city, Sacramento, and he's born and raised in Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 1: How does that allow him to be the person he

547
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Speaker 1: wants to be because Sacramento is a much farther the environment,

548
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Speaker 1: as far as population, it's not as I want to say,

549
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Speaker 1: African American friendly as the city of Houston is. So

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Speaker 1: how does he deal with that? Mr? Fox Um, he's

551
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: a very smart dude. He's a very cultural dude. And

552
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: I said his parents have done a great job of

553
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Speaker 1: keeping him grounded. His mom has a foundation, Foxhole Family

554
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Speaker 1: Foundation and supports breast counsel wareness because she's a breast

555
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Speaker 1: counsel sur about that. Yes, and the dad started AU

556
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Speaker 1: Team Team Fox, you know, for the seven of every graders.

557
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: So that keeps him connected to the city of Houston.

558
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: That keeps him ground. He comes back and supports the

559
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: Air You program, comes back to tournaments, he comes back

560
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: to events that his mom's doing, so that keeps them

561
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: very connected and tied to the city of Houston. Now

562
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: your firm, you have two athletes. We continue to have

563
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: talked about, how do you recruit future athletes? Are I know,

564
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: first of all, you can't reveal certain things on this show,

565
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: but how you go about recruiting the next Damien dots

566
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Speaker 1: the next deeron Fox? Right, Well, I said, I want

567
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: to leave mother two guys out as well. I have

568
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: two guys that are currently in the NBA, Fox and Dotson.

569
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Speaker 1: I have one former NBA player who spent four years

570
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Speaker 1: in the NBA, Eric Morland. He actually want to ring

571
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: with the Toronto Raptors. He's currently playing in China. And

572
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: then I also represent josh niebo who's a rookie who

573
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Speaker 1: he decided not to try to NBA al the G

574
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Speaker 1: League round. He's playing in Israel right now. So I

575
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: have two guys playing international and two guys that are

576
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Speaker 1: currently in the NBA. And how got barb recruiting? It's

577
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: all about relationships, man. I don't do a lot of

578
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: time races, and I don't d M random guys like hey, hey,

579
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Speaker 1: what's what's your name. I have a lot of relationships

580
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: built all over the country through ANYU coaches and high

581
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: school coaches, college coach, and I just reach out to

582
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Speaker 1: my contacts. I kind of checked the board and see

583
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: who would be a good fit, and then I, you know,

584
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: I reach out to the necessary people, you know, and

585
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: I've heard about the European, the China, the Israel. Let's

586
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: talk about that, because that's that's that's a that's a

587
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: it's it's some players that play their entirely their life.

588
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: In fact, you know, Stephan Marbury went over to China

589
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: and became the biggest talent that he ever was in

590
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: the US. So let's talk about before we wrap up.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to You have the G legal course

592
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Speaker 1: that's tied to the b A, and the NBA is

593
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: also saying they are allowed veterans to come into the NBA.

594
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: The G League this year, something they weren't doing in

595
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: the past. And so now let's talk about going overseas,

596
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: the benefits of going overseas, and also it's not being

597
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: like a death kill to your career. Well, going over seas,

598
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: you gotta make a conscious charts was like, man, I'm

599
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: not chasing the NBA dream no more. If it happens,

600
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: it happens. But now I want to make money and

601
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to feed my family. So the G League

602
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: is for guys that's still chasing the NBA dream because

603
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: you're getting paying minimum money. But it's like, man, I

604
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: wants to work from the NBA, I'm gonna keep chasing it.

605
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: I tell young guys that's kind of on the edge

606
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: and give yourself a chance. Go to G League for

607
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: two or three years while you're still young. Tree. After

608
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: two or three years, you gotta do, you know, you

609
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: gotta make a business decision and go ahead and you know,

610
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: try to build a financial future for you and your family.

611
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: And so that's what Eric Morland did. He he played

612
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: in the inn bed for four or five years, he

613
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: won a championship and now he he's making you know,

614
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Speaker 1: last year he made seven figures in China. This year

615
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: he's making high six figures. So he's doing really well

616
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: for himself. And that's really what it's all about, you know,

617
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: in the end, it's about uh, you know you let's

618
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Speaker 1: let's let's let's move back the NBA name. It's a business.

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Speaker 1: It's like I, you know, I have a job. You

620
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: have a job, Okay, the NBA playing basketball, that's your skill.

621
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Speaker 1: You know. Some people are engineers, some people are artists,

622
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: some people are teaching, some people are doctors. They played

623
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Speaker 1: basketball for a living. So child at Israel gives them

624
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: an opportunity to do what they are skilled best to do,

625
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: to play basketball, put the ball in the hole. So

626
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about right now. It's the business side.

627
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: And don't get caught up into if I don't make

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Speaker 1: an NBA man, what I'm gonna do? Well, you do

629
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Speaker 1: a lot. You can go overseas and make a profitable living.

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Speaker 1: Especially and then when you look at the w n

631
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Speaker 1: b A the women over there, they make more money

632
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Speaker 1: in the European leagues than they make in the w

633
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Speaker 1: NBA league. And so and what did you say earlier?

634
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Speaker 1: You said you play at the parks and funding how

635
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: much did you get paid to do that? I was

636
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: all part free exactly. Y'all be at home playing for

637
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: free anyway, So don't get it twisted like this is

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Speaker 1: a great living and wake up and play basketball every day.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I would be at the why I'm

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Speaker 1: saying the local Boys and Girls club playing for free anyway,

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Speaker 1: Because you love the game. That's why I wanted to

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Speaker 1: get it. You're getting paid to do something that you love.

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Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to bring you on the show

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Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know, we we we

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Speaker 1: we know about the rich Paul's out there and the

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Speaker 1: other agencies out there, but I've've been first of all,

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Speaker 1: you in Houston. I wanted to shine light on you

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Speaker 1: being in Houston and plus your real dude. I did

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Speaker 1: my background on used to Richard. They said, it's good Chris.

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Speaker 1: He keeps it real. You know, he is who he

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Speaker 1: is and uh and and and he's been fortunate and

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Speaker 1: blessed to be attached to very talented guys who's playing

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. But like I said, I only brought

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Speaker 1: up Damien's you know, Damien's name and Daron's name because

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Speaker 1: it was part of your bio that was sent over

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Speaker 1: to me. The most fascinating part of your relationship all

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Speaker 1: the two players that are playing in China and playing

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Speaker 1: in Israel, because it goes back to the business side

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Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant's dad, Kobere born in Italy. It really born

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Speaker 1: so this is not something short term going overseas. It's

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Speaker 1: not a negative spirit. A lot of players are bypassing

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Speaker 1: saying I'm going to a G league, I'm gonna give

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Speaker 1: some grown men. And that's what it's all about. So

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Speaker 1: what's the future of Family First Sports Firm? My friend,

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Speaker 1: everybody I was asking me that, I'm like, be honest,

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Speaker 1: wherever God leaves me man, Um, I'm taking it day

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure I'm going to left makes

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Speaker 1: I'm going to opposite way. Yeah, you know, every every

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Speaker 1: for people who are believe in their step and who

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Speaker 1: said individualized attention because that's what you get when you

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Speaker 1: you don't get you can be uh forgotten peace. If

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Speaker 1: And that's what you do with your firm. And I

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Speaker 1: want to thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations,

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Speaker 1: Made Conversation. What I like to do, this I like

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Speaker 1: to do Chris. And next time, let's bring your wife

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Speaker 1: there if you want your clients interviewed on my on

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Speaker 1: the show. As you can see, I'm a major player

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Speaker 1: come on, Chris. Well, Chris, we talked soon. Brother. I

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