1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Hot corner time. Teams are trying to get some more 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: attention in Japan because one club has almost all of 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: the attention in Japan right now. They happen to have 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: the best player on the planet and one of the 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: best all time on their team. That's the Dodgers. This 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: story has to do with the Blue Jays marketing. So 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: Evan Drelik put out a report that said a Japanese 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: boxing ring festooned with Toronto Blue Jays logos broke MLB's 9 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: marketing rules. Basically, according to this article, the Blue Jays 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: had some logos across the mat for a world title 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: boxing match, and they did not have permission from MLB. 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: You have to have permission from MLB to put any 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: kind of signage abroad. Okay, And the Blue Jays said 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: that they were aware of the sponsorship in advance of 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: the logo being used, and that it was not a 16 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: paid sponsorship. So that sounds like maybe that was a 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: difference in their mind and there's internal discussion right now. 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: I read this one actually kind of twice just make 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: sure I wasn't missing anything. KPI understand that teams need 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: to get permission and be on the same page with 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: MLB so that it's not just a marketing fest all 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: across the world, and that they want everything to be 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: in lockstep. But at the same time, although Kratz is 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: laughing at me because yes, the marketing fest would be good, 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: this part stood out to me later on in the article. 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: Sometimes MLBN teams will effectively pool their branding rights together. 27 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: The Dodgers, for example, started a fan club in Japan, 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: and Rob Manford commented on that in the spring. He said, 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 1: you're going to see some fan club events in Japan 30 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: that are different than anything that we've done, and those 31 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: are a joint effort between MLB and the Dodgers because 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: both MLB and Dodgers' rights are involved. So I get 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: all of that, and I'm wondering if some other teams 34 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: are feeling like they're not getting their fair share of 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: attention in a place that is just full of talent 36 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: that is coming over to the major leagues and succeeding. 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: Sounds like the mafia. I mean, if you want to advertise, 38 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: just line the pockets at MLB. I mean, it's that simple, 39 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: and obviously the Dodgers have figured that out. But I mean, 40 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: what was the price the Dodgers had or the Blue 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: Jays had to play it was a slap on the wrist, 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: So good for them going out, and you know it 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: was money well spent or what they said, they weren't 44 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: receiving anything back from it, So good for them trying 45 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: to go out and bend the rules a little bit. 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: And if the discipline is a slap on the wrist, 47 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: good for them. 48 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 49 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 4: I mean, the whole marketing scheme of fifty five to 50 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 4: sixty five year old white men in this game of 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 4: baseball stinks, like they can't figure out they can't figure 52 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 4: out exactly how to telecast a. 53 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: Regional game nationally. 54 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: They restrict rights for highlights to places like Foul Territory 55 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 4: who are trying to grow the game. It's like it's 56 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: restriction after restriction after restriction and fell in the NBA. 57 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 4: They're not perfect, but they're not restricting, especially not restricting players. 58 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: They're not restricting teams. Like if Major League Baseball wants 59 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: to ride the code tails of say the New York 60 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: Yankees and buy a said podcast of a big Yankees 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 4: fan and put money into that, I feel like that's 62 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: kind of hurtful to the other teams, Like what about 63 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 4: a Reds podcast, like say Riverfront Territory. But what now 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: they want to hop on the tails of the Dodgers too, Like, 65 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 4: don't don't take the easy marketing. There's another international team 66 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 4: that came within two outs of the World Series that 67 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: wants to promote their brand, which ultimately promotes Major League 68 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 4: Baseball's brand. To me, let it go, maybe maybe get 69 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: your get your rules right, but let it go. We're 70 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 4: growing it. Like, I want to know how many Blue 71 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: Jay fans are now over in Japan because they just 72 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 4: watched a seven game series that was epic strike while 73 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 4: the Iron's hot. Let everybody because a rising tide raises 74 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 4: all ships. So let these teams advertise and market in 75 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: different ways. It's twenty twenty five. 76 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: They want control, though, I mean, I agree with you, 77 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: it's one I would say if they want to approve 78 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: the messaging because they don't want a team to put 79 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: something out there that's like inappropriate or crosses the line. Okay, 80 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. But to tell teams like 81 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: everything has to go through them, I mean that sounds 82 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: a little helicopter parent ish to me. But I see 83 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: where the fight is right now. I mean KP. You've 84 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: seen this go on for the last several years. The 85 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: Blue Jays, I give them credit, have at least made 86 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: a bid a fight for Roki Sazaki, a pretty strong one, 87 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: and before that, show Hey Otani. They didn't get those players, 88 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: and we actually saw the Blue Jays face those players 89 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: in the World Series, so it very directly impacts, of 90 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: course their business and also their results on the field. 91 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 3: How can you. 92 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: Get your team more popular in a country right now 93 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: that is just drooling Dodgers. I was there a year ago. 94 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: It's Dodgers everything everywhere and show Hey everything everywhere. 95 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Grassy's point. I mean they played the Dodgers in 96 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: the World Series in seven games. How many more Japanese 97 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: fans did the Toronto Blue Jays receive? How many potential 98 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 2: Japanese free agents were watching those games in Japan because 99 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: they wanted to watch their fellow countrymen and show Hey 100 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: and Roke, Roki and Yamamoto. But they end up going, Wow, 101 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays. That looks like a great city to 102 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: play for, a great fan base, an unbelievable organization. So 103 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: how much did the Blue Jays playing the Dodgers in 104 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: the World Series with the Japanese players, they have really 105 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 2: kind of maybe change the duration of you know, their 106 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: ability to go out and sign these guys. I mean 107 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: because like you mentioned, they had been in the sweepstakes 108 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 2: for all these guys over the last couple of years. 109 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: So good for them going out and doing what they did. 110 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: And you know, more importantly, like Kratzy was talking about too, 111 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: why is it such a big deal when teams or 112 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: places like foul Territory or if it's your independent guide 113 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: Home who wants to create a podcast and they want 114 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: to use MLB footage to just try to grow the game. 115 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: Isn't that what Major League Baseball should be wanting from people, 116 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: continue to grow this game, reach a younger audience. However, 117 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: you know they see it fit. I just hate that 118 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: even as a player, I don't even control or former player, 119 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: I don't even control access to my own highlights. I 120 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: can't go out and create a Kevin Plar podcast or 121 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 2: website and safely be able to use my own footage. 122 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: So it's kind of crazy what Major League Baseball does 123 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: in terms of, you know, how much they're helicopter parenting, 124 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: controlling you know, every single person when it comes to 125 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: the game of baseball. 126 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 4: And the marketing part of it. Like Major League Baseball 127 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 4: is losing the grassroots part of baseball. They've gotten rid 128 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 4: of an entire level of minor league entire two levels 129 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 4: of minor league baseball, and from what I hear, they're 130 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: gonna get rid of at least one more so small 131 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 4: town America, small town podcasts are losing the access to 132 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 4: the game. And I wanted to comment on the fact 133 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: that I talked to somebody who was in the meetings 134 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 4: with Shohey and Rokie. He said, you know what, I 135 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 4: don't know if we ever had a chance, but I 136 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 4: do know that we put together a really really good 137 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 4: package in the sense of like what you saw their 138 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 4: spring training, what they've done in Toronto and everything like that, 139 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 4: and they're very proud of that, and you go, okay, whatever, 140 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 4: you like, you're you're proud of the team that you 141 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: work for. But then you see Shane Bieber sign back 142 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: a very team friendly deal after being there for two 143 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: months plus the playoffs. Now you go, okay, well, this team, 144 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 4: this team's done some ancillary things. They've done some things 145 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: that maybe some other teams aren't doing that can help 146 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: draw people to Toronto because KP knows the only people 147 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 4: to get drawn to Toronto when we played were the 148 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: dudes that were getting extra cash. Well, the Blue Jays 149 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: have cash. They have a monopolistic communications company that owns 150 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: their team. Essentially it's a publicly traded team and there 151 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: so they have cash in the country of Canada and 152 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: they're willing to do what it takes to get these 153 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: guys over here. So kudos to them, and they could 154 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 4: be the Beast of the East for a while if 155 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 4: they continue to spend like this when other teams may 156 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 4: not quite spend the same in the American League East. 157 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: In conclusion, a Blue Jay's logo on a boxing ring 158 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: sounds like something that, if it's illegal right now in 159 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: the league, should be made legal. That is good marketing 160 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: and promotion for Major League Baseball and for particular teams. 161 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: One clarification here, KP know no punishment at all actually 162 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: announced right now. There could be one. I don't think 163 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: it's going to be a big one. This sounds like 164 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: a rule that doesn't really get much of a penalty, 165 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: but we'll see. Yeah, exactly, I think KP basically said 166 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: what will result, which is probably a light little slap, 167 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: maybe even a warning because you know, apparently this might 168 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: have been done for the first time in this particular situation. 169 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: But anyway, if you have thoughts on this and you're 170 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: catching it after the Factor you're watching live, let us 171 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: know what you think. Hey, we've got Ryan Yarborough joining 172 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: us right now, and I see what is going to 173 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: be a very big smile as we talk about what 174 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: he just went through over the last week or so. 175 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: Yard signed with the Yankees two and a half million 176 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: dollars for next season on one year contract. That stuff's 177 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: all out there in public. 178 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: That's why I'm saying it. Ryan. 179 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: Great to have you on, dude. Congratulations And I think 180 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: the easy question to ask here first is how different 181 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: this offseason experience is for you versus last year. If 182 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: you can remind people about spring training and hopping teams 183 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: and having a great year, yeah, I know. 184 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on, guys. 185 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 5: And you know, anytime you can get it done in 186 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 5: early November compared to a week in the spring training 187 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 5: I think is always a good thing. So especially being 188 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 5: able to kind of get ready, get the family situated, 189 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 5: know where we're going, get all the living, all the logistics, 190 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 5: taken care of. That's pretty great. Yeah, So I'm very 191 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 5: excited and especially get back to New York. It's very 192 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 5: exciting and. 193 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: Ready to go. 194 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, Ryan, what's up man, Good to see you again. 195 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: Always a nightmare at bat for me. I don't know 196 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: what it was. The way you pitched me, your arm 197 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: angle and typically I hit lefties good, but you always 198 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: ate my lunch. 199 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: My question to you is. 200 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: Given everything you went through the year before, was there 201 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: some conversations with the Yankees, kind of towards the end 202 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: of the year, maybe end of the postseason that you 203 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: would be interested in coming back, and maybe some eagerness 204 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 2: to kind of want to get something early, just because 205 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 2: I know how difficult it could be with you know, 206 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: a wife and kids and family and trying to get settled. 207 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: Was there any conversations with the Yankees? Yeah, before the 208 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 2: end of the year. 209 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: Yeahkvin, No, it's definitely tough at bat for me as well. 210 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 5: You know, you're always pretty aggressive, heatter, so I tried 211 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 5: not to feed right into what you wanted. 212 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 3: So I definitely tried to steer clear of you in 213 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 3: that way. But there wasn't really much conversations. 214 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 5: You know, we were kind of more focused on the 215 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 5: playoffs and kind of the end of the season that way, 216 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 5: and then the off season they just kind of they 217 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 5: call it pretty early, and they were just kind of 218 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 5: pretty aggressive with it, wanting to get it done. I 219 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 5: think you're always curious because I feel like you can 220 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 5: add a lot of value to a team and kind 221 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 5: of see where you fit in hope to be back. 222 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 5: But after dealing with free agency last year and how 223 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 5: long it took, I didn't really have any expectations with it, 224 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 5: so it was just kind of just waiting to kind 225 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 5: of see how the market and everything developed. So the 226 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 5: fact that they kind of wanted to jump on it 227 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 5: early and get it. 228 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 3: Done, I was. 229 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 5: I was very excited to that, and like I said, 230 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 5: we enjoyed it there in New York last year, so 231 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 5: we're glad to be back. 232 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: KP. 233 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 4: I want to give you picture speak. Basically, he was 234 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 4: saying he wasn't going to throw you a strike because 235 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 4: you were going to swing at it anyway. So that's 236 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 4: what he was saying nicely, and he said. 237 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: I know what that means. I know what he meant, 238 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 2: and thank you for saying it nicely, because yeah, I 239 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: read picture code. I know what he was saying, and 240 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 2: he could have just said, hey, you were going to 241 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: swing and everything, and I wasn't going to throw anything 242 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: in his own but he did it nicely, So thank 243 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: you for that. 244 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely he always wanted to throw the bag. 245 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 5: No, I wouldn't say that that aggressive, but I know 246 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 5: he was definitely looking for the fastbar early. 247 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: So he thought your name was Calvin Polar Kelvin p Lar. 248 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 4: But anyway, swinging anything but yards whenever whenever somebody goes 249 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 4: to free agency, the whole, the whole like conversation. I 250 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 4: always ask guys like who else called? I mean, did 251 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 4: you did you call the Red Sox and Orioles? Because 252 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 4: I feel like you need to knock off every American 253 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 4: League East team and I was hoping this offseason would 254 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 4: have been the time that you knocked that off. Did 255 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 4: anybody else call? I don't know if you feel comfortable 256 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 4: saying who else called if you want to, but like, 257 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 4: did anybody else call? 258 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 3: Because it was that early? 259 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 5: I think, Uh, I mean, obviously, who's the only person 260 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 5: who's on the American League. 261 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: He's so far as it just Steve Pierce, you know, 262 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 3: I think is he the only guy? 263 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: You know? 264 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: The whole gauntlet, But. 265 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 5: I mean there was other teams that were interested in. 266 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 5: Like I said, it was so early in the off seasons. 267 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 5: I think that they were fielding like a lot of 268 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 5: the interests and were in like thing. But obviously a 269 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 5: lot of teams had were other priorities like you like 270 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 5: al he normally goes throughout the whole offseason normal. It's 271 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 5: like there's a certain guys who kind of set the 272 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 5: market for everybody else. So I think with teams being 273 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 5: interested in their work, other teams involved, I think it 274 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 5: was more of the Yankees just being so aggressive and 275 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 5: you know, being that perfect storm of we enjoyed it there. 276 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 5: We live here in Tampa, so like the fact that 277 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 5: we can use the whole complex whole off season, and 278 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 5: I'm sure, like you guys know, any chance you can 279 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 5: get an extra six weeks at home for spring training, 280 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 5: you're gonna take. 281 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 3: It any day. 282 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 5: So it was just a perfect storm of we really 283 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 5: enjoyed it there. We knew what they were about, and 284 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 5: I feel like they got me better last year. They 285 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 5: know who I am and how I can help the team. 286 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 5: So like I said, I think it was just a 287 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 5: perfect fit and we're definitely just excited to kind of 288 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 5: be back, and like I said, definitely, now being able 289 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 5: to use the complex all off season is just going 290 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 5: to be great. 291 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. I got two questions for you. I'm kind of 292 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: just looking at the teams you played for, New York Dodgers, Toronto, Tampa, 293 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: Kansas City. I'd say all pretty good resumes of helping 294 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: pitchers become the best version of themselves. Can you kind 295 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: of talk about maybe the individual teams or one of 296 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: the teams that really kind of stands out in terms 297 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: of your development? And then I kind of want to 298 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: just touch on your short time with the Blue Jays. 299 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 2: Being a Blue Jay guy, did you feel like when 300 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: you were there that you felt they had the potential 301 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: to do what they ended up doing this year. 302 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. I feel like every team like 303 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 5: they have so many different perspectives. I feel like that's 304 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 5: some of the biggest thing is for me, You're able 305 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 5: to get so many different insights from different people. Obviously, 306 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 5: I played for Tampa for five years and the biggest 307 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 5: thing I feel like that they preach is just simplicity 308 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 5: and just really trying to simplify things, and especially as 309 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 5: when you're a young guy just getting into the league. 310 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 5: Anytime you can simplify because there's so many things that 311 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 5: are going on, the better you're going to be from 312 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 5: just going out there and knowing you have to do 313 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 5: one or two little singer things and be successful that way, 314 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 5: and just really really emphasize those things. And then between 315 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 5: Kansas City was honestly just a short stint. Enjoyed it there, 316 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 5: but it was, like I said, getting a different respective. Okay, 317 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 5: maybe this pitch that I was told wasn't that great. Hey, 318 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 5: it's better than you think it is. Use it a 319 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 5: little more. And then I was able to start and 320 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 5: kind of do that there. And then being traded to 321 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 5: La it was a matter of just being able to 322 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 5: kind of fill any role they had. You know, they 323 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 5: have so much depth in so many arms. Just when 324 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 5: I got traded over there in twenty three, they were 325 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 5: kind of banged up just because their starters were a 326 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 5: little banged. 327 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: Up and their bullpen had been used a ton. 328 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 5: So I basically came in there and through like once 329 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 5: every fifth day and gave. 330 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: The bullpen a blow. So anytime you can do that. 331 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 5: In August September was great to kind of give those 332 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 5: guys and keep them fresh into the playoffs. 333 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: Didn't go the way we wanted to. 334 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 5: That year, but I know, just being able to kind 335 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 5: of limit those guys and not having to throw so 336 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 5: much that time of year is great. And then, like 337 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 5: I said, Toronto, Toronto, I enjoyed it. You know, it 338 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 5: was a really short stint, but you know, it's a 339 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 5: really cool experience. 340 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: Being able to be there and. 341 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 5: Get to know that, get to know the team and 342 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 5: the fan base and the coaching staff was great. And 343 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 5: I think the big thing with the Yankees is they're 344 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 5: just they have a couple of different guys that give 345 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 5: so many different looks where maybe one guy is more 346 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 5: pitch designed, other guy with mechanical, another guy with scouting reports. 347 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 5: So they kind of really cover their bases that way. 348 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 5: But the big thing for me was their their pitch 349 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 5: design and you know, the slight changes to your grips 350 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 5: and things like that could really just add extra depth 351 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 5: or extra movement and just was really beneficial, especially for 352 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 5: me for my change up specifically helped to help tremendously. 353 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 5: So I enjoyed that, but you know, it was it 354 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 5: was a little weird. I'll say, back to Toronto, where 355 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 5: I got traded over there in twenty four and at 356 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 5: that point, like they ended up trading all, like a 357 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 5: lot of their pieces off because they knew they weren't 358 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 5: going to make the playoffs. 359 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: So it was. 360 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 5: I thought from they had a great clubhouse, good chemistry. 361 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 5: It was just you knew, like they knew they weren't 362 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 5: going to be in at that point, so it was 363 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 5: just a matter of getting the young guys some reps 364 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 5: and things like that. 365 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 3: So and then in. 366 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 5: Spring training, I thought they had a really good team, 367 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 5: because that's why I ended up spending spring with this 368 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 5: year being back there, and I think they knew that 369 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 5: they have had a really good team and some good potential. 370 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 5: It was just a matter of kind of just getting 371 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 5: into the season and getting underway. 372 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 4: How are you talking about what the Yankees kind of 373 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 4: taught you or the things that you're gleaning from your 374 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 4: time with the Yankees and you're going back. What are 375 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: your goals for this season? In the sense I mean 376 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 4: obviously everybody says stay healthy, contribute to the team. You 377 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 4: started eight games, you pitched in nineteen and you finished four. 378 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: How do you make your goals? But also, as every 379 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: baseball player does, this is the time of year where 380 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 4: you're like, I gotta get better at this. I gotta 381 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 4: get stronger at this to be able to make it through. 382 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 4: Like how do you set your goals? Because you could 383 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 4: go and make twenty five starts or you could go 384 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 4: and make six starts and finish twenty five games. 385 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's where the versatility really comes in, 386 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 5: and I think that's what they really valued and we're 387 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 5: really excited to bring me back. One is because kind 388 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 5: of what I've done my whole career is you've done 389 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 5: a little bit of everything. 390 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: I know it. 391 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 5: Like it's easy to say, like you said, like everyone 392 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 5: wants to be healthy. I think that is a big 393 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 5: priority for me this year, just because I missed two 394 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 5: months within oblique, so I. 395 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 3: Know that's everyone's priority. But like I'm really trying to. 396 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 5: Find ways and make sure that doesn't become a problem 397 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 5: again by adding some new things to my workouts or 398 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 5: on the recovery side. And I think that's where being 399 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 5: here with the complex and getting with their hands on 400 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 5: me all off season and getting you prepared that way 401 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 5: is really beneficial. 402 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: And then, like I said, with a lot of the. 403 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 5: Pitch design stuff, it helps kind of hitting the ground 404 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 5: running going into the year, but it's really tough. I 405 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 5: know they're all probably I'm going to be built up 406 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 5: to like cover a lot of innings just like I 407 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 5: can throughout. And then obviously we have some injuries early on, 408 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 5: so I think there's some good chance like good starts 409 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 5: early and then we'll just kind of see how it unfolds. 410 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 5: It's just a matter of kind of I don't want 411 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 5: to say making it broad because like you say, you 412 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 5: want to have really specific goals, But like I said, 413 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 5: with my different roles, I can kind of do a 414 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 5: little bit of everything. So it's not trying to pigeonhole 415 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 5: myself one way when I know they're going to ask 416 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 5: a lot of different things out of me throughout the year. 417 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 4: All right, real quick one on and then I got 418 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 4: to ask my big question, but the quick one. You're 419 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 4: at the complex. You said you're going into complex every day. 420 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going in. 421 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 4: Are you going to the minor league side? Are you 422 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 4: going to Steinbrenner. 423 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 5: Right now, it's all at Hines on the minor league 424 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 5: side right now. They haven't fully transition yet, but I 425 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 5: know they'll at some point go over there. And when 426 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 5: obviously I think more guys come down probably after the 427 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 5: new year, things like that, but this was my first week. 428 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 5: I'll be kind of coming in and out like I 429 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 5: have at a place that I work out with separately, 430 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 5: But right now all. 431 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 3: The throwing has been there, and then we'll just kind. 432 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 5: Of it'll be pretty fluid to see how everything will 433 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 5: transition and be able to use it as much as possible, 434 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 5: because it definitely is an added bonus being able to 435 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 5: use it. 436 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 4: I was just going to ask you are all the 437 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 4: raised things out of Steinbrenner. Have they completely limine it? 438 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 4: Or do you still drive down dal Maybury and see 439 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 4: a raised slash Yankees? 440 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 3: They got rid of that. 441 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 5: I think that got taken down as soon as possible, 442 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 5: even when we kind of came home right after the 443 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 5: season ended up. They took all the banners and stuff 444 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 5: down pretty quickly, So I think there's some semblance of 445 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 5: getting everything like set back up inside the way they 446 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 5: wanted to, But as far as all the raised banners 447 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 5: and stuff, that's definitely not there anymore. 448 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: He as someone who kind of was a utility type 449 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: of outfielder, could start, could come off the bench. Do 450 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: you ever see someone like you who is so versatile 451 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 2: that can close games, start games, you know, pitch bulk innings. 452 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: Do you ever see someone like yourself becoming more valuable 453 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: in terms of like what you receive in free agency 454 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: and hopefully you're the guy who kind of hopefully set 455 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: that market in the future, Like it's invaluable to have 456 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: a guy like you on a roster who on short 457 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 2: notice could be like, hey, leak skills not making it start. 458 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: I need you to go down the bullpen and start 459 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: and give us five innings. 460 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we'll see. 461 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 5: I think the biggest thing that I've kind of taken 462 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 5: away is most teams don't necessarily understand the full value 463 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 5: of it until you're with them in the organization, and 464 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 5: then I think it just is like, man, like you 465 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 5: bring so many things to the table. I think from 466 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 5: the outside looking in, it's just more of like, yeah, 467 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 5: he can do some things here and there, But when 468 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 5: you're really into the organizations, like, man, he can cover 469 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 5: so many different things and is willing to do it 470 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 5: and just really help the team out in so many roles, 471 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 5: like you said, So every team that I've been a 472 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 5: part of, once i'm there, especially for the last couple 473 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 5: of years, like Man, you're The value you bring is 474 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 5: just is tremendous. So I think that's been the biggest 475 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 5: thing is the teams get to see it more once 476 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 5: I'm finally with them. So hopefully that continues and like 477 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 5: gets more across because I know some guys they say 478 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 5: it's like, man, I don't understand how you do it, 479 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 5: And I feel like when you're kind of forced to 480 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 5: do a bunch of different roles early on, and especially 481 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 5: in Tampa where you're just happy. 482 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 3: To be a big leaguer and contribute. 483 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 5: Really just how makes it easier down the road being 484 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 5: able to do Yeah, whatever you guys need, I'm here 485 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,199 Speaker 5: for it all right. 486 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 4: Some was made about Sonny Gray, and I kind of 487 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: I argued against it about him not being a big 488 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 4: market pitcher. You have pitched in what I would consider 489 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 4: two big markets. Toronto you know can be a big market, 490 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 4: but you've also pitched in two small markets. Have you 491 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 4: seen or can you explain why people continually say, oh, 492 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 4: this guy's not a big market guy or this guy 493 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 4: is you know, and where you can run into that 494 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 4: kind of stuff because you've seen both sides of it. 495 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we're maybe if you just let too 496 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 5: many of the outside the voices and everything you hear 497 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 5: from the media, because obviously there's way more coverage and 498 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 5: there's if you let that dictate you too much, I 499 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 5: feel like you're it could maybe like weigh on guys 500 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 5: and they put too much pressure on themselves that way. 501 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 5: I feel like for me personally, like it's like I'm 502 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 5: gonna be my toughest critic, right. I feel like we're 503 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 5: all as players are going to be the hardest on ourselves. 504 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: So I already know exactly when I'm like what I 505 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: need to do. 506 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 5: If I have a bad day, I'll be the first 507 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 5: person to tell you that I had a bad day. 508 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 5: So if I know what I can capable, if I'm 509 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 5: going to be the hardest person myself, I'm not gonna 510 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 5: let anything else influence it. And at the end of 511 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 5: the day, like it's you got to make your pitches 512 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 5: and you got to do your job regardless of the situation. 513 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 5: So I kind of like kept it simple that way 514 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 5: and not try to let too many things like influence 515 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 5: you and you just kind of go out there and 516 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 5: compete and get the job done. 517 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: Hey, this is the way to finish this conversation. 518 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 3: KP. 519 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: I know it's difficult, but do you want to read 520 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: out the stats? So Ran, when we talk to you, 521 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: we also chat behind the scenes to be like who 522 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: wants to ask the next question? Stuff like that. There 523 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: also a side bar conversation going on. 524 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: Oh, three for nineteen, Yeah, I knew it was a 525 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: tough at bat. 526 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 3: It was. 527 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 2: It's one of those at bats where it's not like, 528 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: it's not the overpowering stuff, and you're like, Okay, eventually 529 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to figure him out. And he just kept 530 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: figuring out ways, whether it was the change of off 531 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 2: the cutter up and in, you know it was. It 532 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: wasn't a bat where you're like, oh my god, I'm 533 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: scared to death, but you're you're striking out or you're 534 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 2: jogging down the first baseline again because you just rolled 535 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: one over or got jammed. I knew it was bad. 536 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: That's why I mentioned it when I asked the first question. 537 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: I didn't know it was three for nineteen bad. But 538 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: we have a pretty good photographic memory of you know, 539 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 2: tough pictures we faced, and you got to be up 540 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 2: there with some of my worst numbers. You know. 541 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 5: He just definitely have had some good, good days against 542 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 5: the Blue Jays from all the years with Tampa and this. 543 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: Last year with New York. 544 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 5: So I just enjoyed, Like you said, it's not going 545 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 5: to be anything crazy where you're just like man, but like, 546 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 5: I really enjoyed the cat and mouse of it, the 547 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 5: game inside the game where you're just reading swings and 548 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 5: like able to see, Okay, what is he what do 549 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 5: you think he's looking for? 550 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 3: Okay, what do we do against him? Last at bat? 551 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 5: So I just love those little nuances in the game 552 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 5: that like just keep your brain everything engaged. 553 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 3: So I really enjoy all that stuff. 554 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: Now I want to follow up on that real quick 555 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 2: because I had a conversation with Blake Snell during the playoffs, 556 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: and he calls his own pitches because he truly believes 557 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 2: like he's he's smart enough to read the swings. Are 558 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: you a guy that calls his own pitches because you 559 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: feel like you can read swings and kind of read hitters, 560 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: or are you allowing the catcher to call the signs 561 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 2: and obviously you're gonna shake to what you feel comfortable with. 562 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have I've used the pitch calm 563 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 3: in the past. 564 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 5: I haven't used it the last year or two, it 565 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 5: was more of I think just early on, and if 566 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 5: I do use it in the future, it's more of man, 567 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 5: the pitch clock is kind of getting there and getting going, 568 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 5: and I think that can be like the time saving 569 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 5: aspect of like, hey, like we can still ping pom me, 570 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 5: you can still call pitches, but like I'm on a shake, 571 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 5: I'm just going to tell you exactly what I want 572 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 5: to go to next, compared to like four pitches on 573 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 5: both sides of the plate. That can add up to 574 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 5: timeframe and then you're kind of rushing to the plate. 575 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 5: But I do enjoy the the back and forth with 576 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 5: the catchers, and even if I'm shaking off or I'm 577 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 5: the guy who really likes to explain, I'll come in like, hey, 578 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 5: this is what I was thinking here and this is why. 579 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 5: So it's not like I just didn't want to throw 580 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 5: this on want or to throw this. There's always a 581 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 5: rhyme or a reason why I'm trying to do something, 582 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 5: so I always try to get that, and it's been 583 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 5: normally throughout the game. If like you are maybe not 584 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 5: on the same page as the first inning or two, 585 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 5: if you keep doing it and adding it up as 586 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 5: Cratzy will tell you like you're be on the same page, 587 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,159 Speaker 5: and the more you throw it together throughout the season, 588 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 5: you're gonna have a generalized idea of it. But I 589 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 5: definitely understand what Smells talking about with the conviction of 590 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 5: like I just want to do it, I'm going to 591 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 5: do it at my pace and let's just get going. 592 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: Ryan, great insight man. Always always appreciate the conversation. And 593 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: I have a great Thanksgiving with the fam. 594 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 5: Awesome thanks guys, Happy Thanksgiving, and yeah, I appreciate have 595 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 5: you on