WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: The Safety Dance 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:06.480 Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:11.319 the Bengals Booth podcast, the Save to Dance, Well to 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:15.800 Save to Dance, I Guess to Save to Dance edition 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:18.119 as we take an in depth look at the Bengals 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:21.440 first round pick in the twenty twenty two draft, safety 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:25.040 Daxton Hill. Coming up, we'll get analysis from head coach 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:28.400 Zach Taylor and defensive coordinator lou Anna Rumo. We'll hear 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:31.160 what Hill had to say when he spoke to Cincinnati 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:35.000 reporters around midnight, and then I'll discuss the pick and 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:39.440 a pretty wild first round with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:43.800 The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals. 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And recently I took care of a 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:30.880 home project involving a water pump and multiple hoses and 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:35.600 I didn't ruin anything. So lookout, lows and home depot 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:41.000 handy man. Dan will be roaming the aisles soon. Now 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:44.039 let's get to the first night of the draft. Here's 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.960 what Dane Brugler, the draft guru for The Athletic, recently 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:52.400 wrote about Daxton Hill. Arguably the top nickel defender in 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:55.280 the draft. Hill can cover wide receivers and tight ends 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.440 while also providing a thump in the run game and 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.600 as a blitzer. Although he has the size of a cornerback, 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.800 he should test off the charts and plays with the 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.760 toughness of a safety. With his versatile skills, Hill is 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.800 exactly what several teams are searching for in their secondaries. 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:18.040 Now let's hear from Zach Taylor on Dax Hill. I'm 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.360 really excited about him. You know, he was a player 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.440 that we thought very highly of. Surprised he was there 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.480 for us and really eager to add him Adam to 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.120 our team. We think he's been a great weapon for 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:28.519 us on defense. You can use him a lot of 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.720 different ways, and really really fired up to get him 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.120 in the building. He can play a couple different spots. 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.600 You know, he's a safety, he's played Nichol. You know, 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:39.520 he's got the athleticism to do a lot of different things. 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.280 So I think the first thing is just getting in 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.520 the building, and certainly we have a vision for him 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.440 internally of how to utilize him. But I think he 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.320 could just be a from an assess it force some defense. 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:51.360 Hill ran a four three eight forty at the combine 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.799 and also had elite scores in the agility drills. Here's 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:58.200 defensive coordinator lou Anna Rumo. Yeah, I think his measurables 0:02:58.200 --> 0:02:59.639 are great. You know, you look at what he ran 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.560 and all the all those different things that you know, 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:06.040 we we're gonna chase around two of the toughest quarterbacks 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:08.880 in the league this year four times, you know, and 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:10.959 the more speed we have on the field, what better 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.720 will be m So he lends that um and uh, 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:16.160 you know it's going there's certainly going to be a 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.640 learning curve there is for every rookie, especially in the 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:23.280 back end. Um, So you know, we'll we'll give him 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:24.880 just enough on his plate to see how much he 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:26.720 can handle and kind of take it from there. Well. 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.440 Listed as a safety, he always used extensively as a 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.760 slot corner this past season at Michigan and was named 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:36.320 first team All Conferenced by Big Ten coaches. His Swiss 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:40.839 Army Night versatility is a great fit for Anna Rumo's defense. Yeah, 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:42.760 I think it's important. You know, the way when you 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:45.080 look at offenses these days, and the way tight ends 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.840 are utilized and running backs out of the backfield and 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.839 you know, just different different things. You know, this guy 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:52.640 can you know, he can blitz off the edge, he 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.320 can cover, um, you know, he's good against the run 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.960 and get good good getting off blocks and things like that. 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:01.280 So I think we're getting a good overall overall football player. 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.480 You know, we'll see we'll get him in here and 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.240 you know, see what the shiny new toy can do. 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.480 So we're excited about it. The twenty one year old 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.760 Hill is from Tulsa, Oklahoma, and he watched the draft 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.560 with about sixty friends and family members last night. Daxton 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:20.320 spoke to Cincinnati reporters over the phone about thirty minutes 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.800 after being selected and said being drafted by an NFL 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.000 team was a dream come true. I tell you for sure. 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.880 I mean definitely last few years, I mean just growing 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.000 up kind of watching football and now, you know, throughout 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:34.919 my college career, no one that I had an opportunity 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.000 goes into the field. You know, it's you know, a 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.359 great experience that you know, actually see consol fruition and 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:43.760 you know, me having an opportunity, you know, to play 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.760 at the next level. So for sure. The Bengals first 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.880 met with Hill at the NFL scouting Combine and in 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.359 the weeks that followed showed plenty of interest. Um, I 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.320 had a good feeling, you know with some of the coaches. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.520 I had a former band former like you said, at 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.880 the combine, and then throughout able had a few zoom 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:05.039 calls with them, so not too much like communication, but 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.200 you know a little bit communication. And then today also 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:10.640 taught with them before the draft, saying you know, hopefully 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.680 we can you know, get you if you're still available. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.200 So that's what they did, and I'm glad, you know, 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.280 I'm glad that they chosen as for his role. Does 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.080 he see himself as a safety or a slot corner. 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.760 I mean, I came in at safety, so I feel like, 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.440 you know, safety, that's where I started at. And then 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.960 you know, this year, having that slot corner role something 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.000 I really developed, you know, throughout the season. So I 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.800 can see myself you know, doing either or. But yeah, 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.680 for sure, you know, coming in as a safety, definitely 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.159 have you know, instincts as a safety and then can 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:43.400 also play that that slot corner. Nexton, we'll catch a 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.039 flight to Cincinnati on Friday and hold a news cop 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:49.640 pence at three in the afternoon. The Bengals Booth podcast 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.839 is presented by Ultimate Bengals, the free to play fantasy 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:56.520 football game. This past season, Ultimate Bengals awarded a weekly 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:59.920 winner during the course of the year with tickets, autograph merchandise, 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:04.039 and money can buy experiences all up for grabs. Find 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:07.800 Ultimate Bengals in the app Store and Google Play. Now, 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:12.640 time to recap Round one with Dave lapham Lap. Most 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.760 of the draft guru seemed to think the Bengals are 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:16.800 going to take a cornerback in Round one. They took 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:20.400 somebody in the secondary, but he is primarily a safety 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.960 who played a lot of slot corner Daxton Hill from Michigan. 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.560 What's your reaction, Yeah, And I think, you know, they 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.719 think that he might be able to play outside as well. 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.560 They're going to take a look. He's got the speed 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:32.880 to do it. Does he have the fluidity and the 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.080 you know, flip the hips and be able to run 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.039 with guys and track the ball down the football field. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:42.400 And but he gives them a lot of position Versatility's 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:46.800 almost position less as such. And Louiana Rumo loves that. 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:50.880 I mean that Lui A. Rumo with with the versatility 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.960 in the personnel that he had without having to substitute, 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:59.920 played havoc with Patrick Mahomes and others. Particularly in Mahomes 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:01.960 in the second half of that playoff game, he didn't 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.360 know what he was looking at and that a lot 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.839 of it was a three safety package, so and the 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.200 third safety was covering tight ends. He can do that 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:14.559 as well. He can blitz obviously, he can play slot 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.400 corner and come off the slot like like Hilton has 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.080 done so well for the Bengals. He can do that 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.640 for him. He's got the range in the speed to 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:25.320 be able to play you know, deep middle at the 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:29.040 safety position. He could be a spy if lou Aroma decided, 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.320 you know what, these quarterbacks were playing Lamar Jackson Watson 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.400 and these mobile quarterbacks. You know, sometimes you spy at 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.760 the linebacker or a safety level. He could provide that. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:39.840 I mean, there's a lot of things you can do 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:42.640 with a guy like this, and so I think that 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.720 that was the reason that they said, you know, this 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.160 guy is a Swiss Army knife. This is a big 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.520 tool in the toolbox that we can do a lot 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.880 of things with. And when you can change your defensive 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:58.320 look dramatically by not even having to substitute because of 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:02.600 that player versatility, in today's NFL, you got something cooking. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.360 And you know, they feel like they can address the 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:09.200 true corner position later in the draft because they I 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.440 don't think they expected this guy to be there, and honestly, 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.600 I don't think he expected to be there either. Daxton 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.800 Hill is six feet tall, one hundred ninety one pounds. 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:20.280 He ran a four three eight forties, so he's got 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:24.120 great speed, had elite scores in the shuttle and the 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.640 three cone agility drills. Apparently not the strongest guy in 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:31.080 the world, but guys that are run for three eight 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:36.240 forties generally, aren't you know, tremendous weightlifters. Where do you 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:40.120 see him being used right away? Do you see him 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:44.320 getting a lot of snaps or somebody who is you know, 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:46.640 going to get a little taste of it as a 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.560 rookie and eventually play a major role. I think it 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.320 depends on what else they do in the draft at 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:55.040 the corner position, because I think if he's their best 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:59.319 guy as a third safety, that he gives them more 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:04.480 more versatility. Um as as a third safety, they can 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:08.320 play slot corner. You could play a ton you know, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.400 if they draft a corner in the in the second 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:14.680 round or third round or whatever, that proves that he's 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.560 a hell of a player, you know, you can he 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.319 may not have as many snaps and as many packages. 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:22.720 That would be a great problem to have, you know, 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:26.800 I mean to be able to have numbers back there 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.000 that you could utilize and you can utilize differently with 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.720 those numbers. Because of the versatility that Dax Hill provides, 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:36.760 I think is a is a big, big plus for 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:40.600 Louanna Rumo, who you know, that's where that's his football 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.359 bones is on the back end. I mean, that's his 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:47.600 his his his football history it's his football genetics. So 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.800 I think he's excited about, you know, having Dax Hill 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:52.240 come in here and take a look at what he 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.680 can do physically and and uh, you know, go back 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:59.679 to the defensive coordinatal laboratory and pull out the beacons 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.199 and the and the test tubes and put some things 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:06.400 together and involving Dax Hill. So, um, he's a talent. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.320 There's no question about it. And I mean when you 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:13.160 when you talk about you know, the killer bees, Bates 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.280 and Bell and this kid at safety, you know, I 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:17.920 don't know, I don't know how many trios and much 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.480 better than that across the National Football League. That's that's 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.079 pretty good, pretty good group right there. Jesse Bates will 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.840 obviously play on the franchise tag unless they work out 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.240 on extension before July thirty first. Von Bell's going into 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:32.280 the final year of his three year deal. How big 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:36.160 of a factor were those contracts in drafting Daxton Hill. 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.880 I think in today's NFL, you know, you always have 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:43.600 to be ready to uh to move move accordingly depending 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:47.520 on these type of situations salary cap issues. Am I 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.439 going to be able to sign these guys? Where am 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:53.120 I with with the cap what do I have coming up? Um, 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:56.280 So it's it's always you always have to be ready 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.600 and nimble to you know, not cripple yourself at a 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:04.240 position group. Um and depth is never a problem, particularly 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.760 a guy like this that you know, to me, I'm 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.120 not sure i'd call him a safety or a corner. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.080 I call him a defensive back. You know, I think 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.840 I think this guy is, like I said, almost positionless 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.720 and you know, gives gives them a lot of a 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.120 lot of latitude. There's there's no question about it. And 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:29.520 depending on how he pans out, Um, he's he's something 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:33.240 good to have on your roster from a sarity cap standpoint, 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:39.160 because could you could you potentially count him as whatever, corner? Yeah, whatever, safety, Yeah, 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.120 I mean he's got that kind of flexibility and ability 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:45.560 to him potentially. Three picks before the Bengals, the Packers 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:49.200 selected defensive tackle DeVante Wyatt out of Georgia. One pick 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:52.679 before the Bengals, the chief selected defensive end George Karloftus 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.800 of Purdue. If either of those two guys was on 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:57.840 the board, do you think the Bengals would have selected 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:01.760 them instead? You know, prop possibly, I think I would have. 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:07.880 Johnson was there pretty late. I mean, those guys Wyatt 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.280 a three technique you're down a man in the in 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.360 the defensive tackle three technique position. If Wyatt's there, you 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.040 gotta give that serious consideration. If Johnson's there as an 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.040 edge guy, and karloftis and they both were into the 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:23.000 late twenties, I mean, it was like the draft pretty 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.640 much once he got to like there were five picks. 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:27.400 I counted at least five guys that I would have 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.559 been okay with, you know, including Booth. And they didn't 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.000 have to get that far because they had guys that 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:35.320 were there that I don't think they anticipated that would 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.920 be there. But in a lot of cases people that 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.640 anticipate Booth would have been there either. But the fact 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:43.600 that that so many receivers were taken so early, I 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.760 mean that that was a big benefit to the Bengals. 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.800 There was no question about it. You know, quarterbacks nobody 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.280 went before twenty so. But I mean there was a 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:57.480 run on defensive defensive ends in the beginning. There were 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:01.199 five defensive players taken, three edge guys, two corners with 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.400 the first five picks, and I thought, uh boy, you know, 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.560 and then all the offensive players started going offensive tackles went, 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.000 a center went to interior lineman went, I'm like, oh okay, 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.240 now we're cooking. We got a bunch of receivers and 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.720 a bunch of offensive lineman went, there's gonna be some 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:16.800 defensive players for the Bengals at the back end. And 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.680 as it all unfolded, there they were, you know, a 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.000 handful of them sitting right there at the end of 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.440 the first round where they could just kind of patiently, 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.520 you know, be disciplined and be patient and see what 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:29.920 see what was going to be left. What do you 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.400 think of the Ravens getting Tyler Linderbaum with the twenty 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.560 fifth pick. Yeah, I mean I think that's where a 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.120 lot of people had him, you know, in the twenties. 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.920 I think Linderbaum is a is an outstanding football player. 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.760 I think he's as good a finisher as a blocker, tenacious, 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:50.600 you know, he just a great, tremendous motor, great motor 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:53.920 could fit for Baltimore or the running game. I think. So, 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.800 you know, I think that it's going to be it'll 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.520 be interesting to see how he handles these really big 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:04.600 you know, I'm gonna these big nose tackles. I mean, 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:08.360 what what how's How's that? That's the that's the concerned 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:10.839 with him is he's undersized, you know, two hundred and 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.360 ninety three pounds with short arms. But he was a 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.800 wrestler and he knows leverage and he sinks his hips. 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.040 He plays with a low pad level. You know, he 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.560 anchors pretty well at the collegiate level. Will he be? 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:25.920 Will DJ Reader handle this kid? Now? DJ Reader is 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:27.960 going to have to bring his lunch pale because this 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:32.240 kid will not quit. He will play from snap to whistle, 0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:35.160 every single snap. He's not going to quit. It'll be 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.080 it'll be interesting. There's going to be some some big 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:42.360 interior defensive lineman just in this division that it's going 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:45.360 to be a challenge for this young man. But uh, 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:49.640 you know, I do believe that when you watch his 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.760 college tape, there's no doubt that he definitely deserved to 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:56.720 be a first round draft pick. You mentioned the run 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:00.840 on wide receivers. Between picks eight and twelve, there were 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.080 four wide receivers selected, including three that were together at 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:07.120 Ohio State. At one point six of the first eighteen 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.440 picks were wide receivers. It's a good year to be 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.680 set at wide receiver, like the Bengals are because not 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:16.880 only where those wide receivers selected, but Tennessee trades Aj 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:20.240 Brown to the Eagles, the Ravens trade Hollywood Brown to 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.600 the Cardinals. Earlier in the offseason, Davante Adams, Tyreek Kill, 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:27.920 Amari Cooper all got dealt. The wide receiver market has 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:32.040 gone crazy. It was the wild Wild West. The trades 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:33.680 and a lot of what was due to the wide receivers, 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:35.840 and a lot of it is we're not going to 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.280 pay our wide receiver twenty million. We don't have a 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.840 rookie quarterback with the rookie contract. We can't afford that. 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.240 So you move the wide receiver to a team that 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.600 feels like they can fit it into their salary cap, 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:48.800 and you replace it with a highly drafted rookie and 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.120 hope that there's not going to be a major fall 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.760 off a cliff in terms of talent. But yeah, it 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:59.240 was incredible the way they're basically dumping salary, you know 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:03.960 before they have to negotiate these astronomical deals. And you know, 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.080 the safety position a couple of years ago, you know 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:10.240 started climbing, Well now it's leveled off and kind of declined. 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.240 So you know, what does what does that mean for 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:17.680 the Jesse Bates negotiation with the Cincinnati Bengals. Obviously this year, Uh, 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.520 there's a strong chance that he could be playing out 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.480 you know, the franchise tag. But you know, you never know, 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:26.480 you never know if you can, if you can get 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.480 him sign or not. But if you can't, you know 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:31.480 you've got a guy that you can potentially groom for 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.800 a year to move to that position if necessary. So 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:38.600 you always have to you have to be as flexible 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:43.040 as the players are. You have to have personnel flexibility, 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.880 you know, not just position versatility for the players. You 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:49.120 have to have personnel and salary cap flexibility as as 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.640 an organization as well. As everybody knows the Bengals can 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.840 start working on a Joe Burrow extension next year. If 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.760 Joe wants to continue to throw to both te Higgins 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.960 and Jamar Chase the future, he's going to have to 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:05.400 be very willing to work out the type of deal 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.080 that allows the Bengals to keep some of these guys, 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:10.439 whether it means taking a little less or structuring it 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.160 in such a way that gives the Bengal some flexibility. 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.960 Because Tee Higgins and Jamar Chase are both tracking to 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.280 be twenty million dollar guys. Yeah, And I mean even 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.119 if he does give you a hometown discount as such, 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.840 can you still afford it? Can you still afford a 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:28.800 quarterback that? I mean he deserves me in the top five, 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.480 there's no doubt about that. Probably top three, maybe even 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.639 better than that. So if you're up there at that number, 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.400 you know you're looking at forty million a year plus 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.480 another forty million between two receivers, mana chevits. That TV 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.520 contract better be sweet sugar atte. I mean, there better 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:47.679 be a salary cap that's just like out of the 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.719 stratosphere to be able to And that's what you don't know, 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:52.919 you know exactly what that number is going to be. 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.640 But I do think that Joe Burrow, in my mind, 0:17:56.680 --> 0:17:58.880 seems to be the kind of guy that you know, 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:04.359 is reasonable about. My goals are to I want to 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:08.640 be successful. I've got personal goals, but the team goals 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.200 are the biggest in my mind. I mean, he definitely 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.520 he's been on a national championship team, he came within 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:19.160 a whisker of being on a super Bowl championship team. 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.520 He wants to win the ring in the NFL, just 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.840 like he won the ring in college. All right, one 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.440 round in the books, the Bengals pick up a safety. 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:30.960 Next two rounds of the draft coming up tomorrow. Now, 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.000 in four out of the last five years, they've traded 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.119 back in the second round, and this if they do 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.040 it again, it'll almost certainly mean trading out of the 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:42.560 second round. Do you think that's likely? It's possible. But 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:46.240 to me, I thought trading back tonight would have been 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:48.280 like trading out of the second round as the thirty 0:18:48.320 --> 0:18:50.440 first pick, you know, I mean, you're you're just about there. 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.359 Trading out of the second round tomorrow would be like 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:55.680 an early third round pick. I think a little bit 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.440 different dynamic. The players would be more picked over at 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.919 that particular point in time. But with that said, if 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.400 they're picked over and you only have one or two 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.600 left that you really, you know, think you your needs 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:08.919 are different than the Bengals and you're targeting needs, it 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:13.360 could happen. There's there's no question about it. But um, 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.199 you know, I think the Bengals feel like there's going 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.960 to be you know, good players. Um, it's still it 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:26.840 needs like edge, rush, corner, um, you know, in the second, third, 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:30.080 fourth round, No question about it. I think that the 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:36.159 draft um is deep. It Obviously, the players are smaller, slower, 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:41.040 whatever it's. You know, they're not quite the same you know, 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.880 traits as such, but you put tape on, they're still 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:47.040 damn good football players and they project to play in 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.679 the National Football League. Maybe more of a developmental situation, 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:53.359 but I think they're going to get good players to 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.040 uh to be able to work with and develop in 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:59.199 that area for sure. The Bengals have Joe Burrow, the 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:03.400 Browns now have Deshaun Watson. The Ravens obviously have Lamar Jackson. 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:08.639 Did the Steelers enter that stratosphere and quarterback play by 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:12.000 drafting Kenny pick It out of pit number twenty? Overall? 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:15.240 You know, I mean, I think they've got they've got 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:18.480 a big wild card at the quarterback position. You have 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:20.600 a guy that came out of the out of the 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:24.280 college draft as the second pick in the draft, Mitchell Trubisky. Yeah, 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.239 and trade it up to do it. I mean, he 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:30.640 was highly regarded and he's got some physical attributes. Now, 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:34.240 it didn't work for whatever. You can probably point to 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:38.480 a myriad of reasons that it didn't work. But you know, 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.320 Mitchell Trubisky's not going to use it as excuses. I mean, 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.800 I'm sure in his mind, you know, he's not satisfied 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:48.000 with the way things worked out. I'm sure he If 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:50.840 you're going to be realistic about it and honest about it, 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:55.160 you know, he's a factor as much as organizational deficiencies 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.840 were a factor in his lack of development. So I 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.480 think the kid does have glo abilities though. I mean, 0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:05.560 he does have some athleticisms. He's another one. He's not 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:07.520 as stiff in the pocket. This kid can run, he 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:10.080 can move around, and he's got some arm He's got 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:13.680 some arm strength. He's got some arm talent. So yeah, 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:17.520 I wonder if you know, they look at Picket to 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.080 be I think Pickets the quarterback that was the most 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:25.880 NFL ready, And I think he does have accuracy ball placement. 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:29.639 I thought. I think he's he's pretty darn good short 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:33.480