1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast, the Save to Dance, Well to 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Save to Dance, I Guess to Save to Dance edition 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: as we take an in depth look at the Bengals 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: first round pick in the twenty twenty two draft, safety 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Daxton Hill. Coming up, we'll get analysis from head coach 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor and defensive coordinator lou Anna Rumo. We'll hear 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: what Hill had to say when he spoke to Cincinnati 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: reporters around midnight, and then I'll discuss the pick and 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: a pretty wild first round with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals. Download 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: Ultimate Bengals ahead of the twenty twenty two season. 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And recently I took care of a 23 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: home project involving a water pump and multiple hoses and 24 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: I didn't ruin anything. So lookout, lows and home depot 25 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: handy man. Dan will be roaming the aisles soon. Now 26 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: let's get to the first night of the draft. Here's 27 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: what Dane Brugler, the draft guru for The Athletic, recently 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: wrote about Daxton Hill. Arguably the top nickel defender in 29 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: the draft. Hill can cover wide receivers and tight ends 30 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: while also providing a thump in the run game and 31 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: as a blitzer. Although he has the size of a cornerback, 32 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: he should test off the charts and plays with the 33 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: toughness of a safety. With his versatile skills, Hill is 34 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: exactly what several teams are searching for in their secondaries. 35 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: Now let's hear from Zach Taylor on Dax Hill. I'm 36 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: really excited about him. You know, he was a player 37 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: that we thought very highly of. Surprised he was there 38 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: for us and really eager to add him Adam to 39 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: our team. We think he's been a great weapon for 40 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: us on defense. You can use him a lot of 41 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: different ways, and really really fired up to get him 42 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: in the building. He can play a couple different spots. 43 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: You know, he's a safety, he's played Nichol. You know, 44 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: he's got the athleticism to do a lot of different things. 45 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: So I think the first thing is just getting in 46 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: the building, and certainly we have a vision for him 47 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: internally of how to utilize him. But I think he 48 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: could just be a from an assess it force some defense. 49 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: Hill ran a four three eight forty at the combine 50 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: and also had elite scores in the agility drills. Here's 51 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator lou Anna Rumo. Yeah, I think his measurables 52 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: are great. You know, you look at what he ran 53 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: and all the all those different things that you know, 54 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: we we're gonna chase around two of the toughest quarterbacks 55 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: in the league this year four times, you know, and 56 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: the more speed we have on the field, what better 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: will be m So he lends that um and uh, 58 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: you know it's going there's certainly going to be a 59 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: learning curve there is for every rookie, especially in the 60 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: back end. Um, So you know, we'll we'll give him 61 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: just enough on his plate to see how much he 62 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: can handle and kind of take it from there. Well. 63 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: Listed as a safety, he always used extensively as a 64 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: slot corner this past season at Michigan and was named 65 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: first team All Conferenced by Big Ten coaches. His Swiss 66 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 1: Army Night versatility is a great fit for Anna Rumo's defense. Yeah, 67 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: I think it's important. You know, the way when you 68 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: look at offenses these days, and the way tight ends 69 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: are utilized and running backs out of the backfield and 70 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 1: you know, just different different things. You know, this guy 71 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: can you know, he can blitz off the edge, he 72 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: can cover, um, you know, he's good against the run 73 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: and get good good getting off blocks and things like that. 74 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: So I think we're getting a good overall overall football player. 75 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: You know, we'll see we'll get him in here and 76 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: you know, see what the shiny new toy can do. 77 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: So we're excited about it. The twenty one year old 78 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: Hill is from Tulsa, Oklahoma, and he watched the draft 79 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: with about sixty friends and family members last night. Daxton 80 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: spoke to Cincinnati reporters over the phone about thirty minutes 81 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: after being selected and said being drafted by an NFL 82 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: team was a dream come true. I tell you for sure. 83 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean definitely last few years, I mean just growing 84 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: up kind of watching football and now, you know, throughout 85 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: my college career, no one that I had an opportunity 86 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: goes into the field. You know, it's you know, a 87 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 1: great experience that you know, actually see consol fruition and 88 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, me having an opportunity, you know, to play 89 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: at the next level. So for sure. The Bengals first 90 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: met with Hill at the NFL scouting Combine and in 91 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: the weeks that followed showed plenty of interest. Um, I 92 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: had a good feeling, you know with some of the coaches. 93 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: I had a former band former like you said, at 94 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: the combine, and then throughout able had a few zoom 95 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: calls with them, so not too much like communication, but 96 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: you know a little bit communication. And then today also 97 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: taught with them before the draft, saying you know, hopefully 98 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: we can you know, get you if you're still available. 99 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: So that's what they did, and I'm glad, you know, 100 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm glad that they chosen as for his role. Does 101 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: he see himself as a safety or a slot corner. 102 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I came in at safety, so I feel like, 103 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: you know, safety, that's where I started at. And then 104 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: you know, this year, having that slot corner role something 105 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: I really developed, you know, throughout the season. So I 106 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: can see myself you know, doing either or. But yeah, 107 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: for sure, you know, coming in as a safety, definitely 108 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: have you know, instincts as a safety and then can 109 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: also play that that slot corner. Nexton, we'll catch a 110 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: flight to Cincinnati on Friday and hold a news cop 111 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: pence at three in the afternoon. The Bengals Booth podcast 112 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: is presented by Ultimate Bengals, the free to play fantasy 113 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: football game. This past season, Ultimate Bengals awarded a weekly 114 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: winner during the course of the year with tickets, autograph merchandise, 115 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: and money can buy experiences all up for grabs. Find 116 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: Ultimate Bengals in the app Store and Google Play. Now, 117 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: time to recap Round one with Dave lapham Lap. Most 118 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: of the draft guru seemed to think the Bengals are 119 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: going to take a cornerback in Round one. They took 120 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: somebody in the secondary, but he is primarily a safety 121 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: who played a lot of slot corner Daxton Hill from Michigan. 122 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: What's your reaction, Yeah, And I think, you know, they 123 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: think that he might be able to play outside as well. 124 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: They're going to take a look. He's got the speed 125 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: to do it. Does he have the fluidity and the 126 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, flip the hips and be able to run 127 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: with guys and track the ball down the football field. 128 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: And but he gives them a lot of position Versatility's 129 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: almost position less as such. And Louiana Rumo loves that. 130 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean that Lui A. Rumo with with the versatility 131 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: in the personnel that he had without having to substitute, 132 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: played havoc with Patrick Mahomes and others. Particularly in Mahomes 133 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: in the second half of that playoff game, he didn't 134 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: know what he was looking at and that a lot 135 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: of it was a three safety package, so and the 136 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: third safety was covering tight ends. He can do that 137 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 1: as well. He can blitz obviously, he can play slot 138 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: corner and come off the slot like like Hilton has 139 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: done so well for the Bengals. He can do that 140 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: for him. He's got the range in the speed to 141 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: be able to play you know, deep middle at the 142 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: safety position. He could be a spy if lou Aroma decided, 143 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: you know what, these quarterbacks were playing Lamar Jackson Watson 144 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: and these mobile quarterbacks. You know, sometimes you spy at 145 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: the linebacker or a safety level. He could provide that. 146 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of things you can do 147 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: with a guy like this, and so I think that 148 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: that was the reason that they said, you know, this 149 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: guy is a Swiss Army knife. This is a big 150 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: tool in the toolbox that we can do a lot 151 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: of things with. And when you can change your defensive 152 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: look dramatically by not even having to substitute because of 153 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: that player versatility, in today's NFL, you got something cooking. 154 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: And you know, they feel like they can address the 155 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: true corner position later in the draft because they I 156 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: don't think they expected this guy to be there, and honestly, 157 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he expected to be there either. Daxton 158 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: Hill is six feet tall, one hundred ninety one pounds. 159 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: He ran a four three eight forties, so he's got 160 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: great speed, had elite scores in the shuttle and the 161 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: three cone agility drills. Apparently not the strongest guy in 162 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: the world, but guys that are run for three eight 163 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: forties generally, aren't you know, tremendous weightlifters. Where do you 164 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: see him being used right away? Do you see him 165 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: getting a lot of snaps or somebody who is you know, 166 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: going to get a little taste of it as a 167 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: rookie and eventually play a major role. I think it 168 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: depends on what else they do in the draft at 169 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: the corner position, because I think if he's their best 170 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: guy as a third safety, that he gives them more 171 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: more versatility. Um as as a third safety, they can 172 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: play slot corner. You could play a ton you know, 173 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: if they draft a corner in the in the second 174 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: round or third round or whatever, that proves that he's 175 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: a hell of a player, you know, you can he 176 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: may not have as many snaps and as many packages. 177 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 1: That would be a great problem to have, you know, 178 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: I mean to be able to have numbers back there 179 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: that you could utilize and you can utilize differently with 180 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: those numbers. Because of the versatility that Dax Hill provides, 181 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: I think is a is a big, big plus for 182 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: Louanna Rumo, who you know, that's where that's his football 183 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,359 Speaker 1: bones is on the back end. I mean, that's his 184 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: his his his football history it's his football genetics. So 185 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: I think he's excited about, you know, having Dax Hill 186 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: come in here and take a look at what he 187 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: can do physically and and uh, you know, go back 188 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: to the defensive coordinatal laboratory and pull out the beacons 189 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: and the and the test tubes and put some things 190 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: together and involving Dax Hill. So, um, he's a talent. 191 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: There's no question about it. And I mean when you 192 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: when you talk about you know, the killer bees, Bates 193 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: and Bell and this kid at safety, you know, I 194 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know how many trios and much 195 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: better than that across the National Football League. That's that's 196 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty good group right there. Jesse Bates will 197 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: obviously play on the franchise tag unless they work out 198 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: on extension before July thirty first. Von Bell's going into 199 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: the final year of his three year deal. How big 200 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: of a factor were those contracts in drafting Daxton Hill. 201 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: I think in today's NFL, you know, you always have 202 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: to be ready to uh to move move accordingly depending 203 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: on these type of situations salary cap issues. Am I 204 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,439 Speaker 1: going to be able to sign these guys? Where am 205 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: I with with the cap what do I have coming up? Um, 206 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: So it's it's always you always have to be ready 207 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: and nimble to you know, not cripple yourself at a 208 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: position group. Um and depth is never a problem, particularly 209 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: a guy like this that you know, to me, I'm 210 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: not sure i'd call him a safety or a corner. 211 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: I call him a defensive back. You know, I think 212 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: I think this guy is, like I said, almost positionless 213 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: and you know, gives gives them a lot of a 214 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: lot of latitude. There's there's no question about it. And 215 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: depending on how he pans out, Um, he's he's something 216 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: good to have on your roster from a sarity cap standpoint, 217 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: because could you could you potentially count him as whatever, corner? Yeah, whatever, safety, Yeah, 218 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: I mean he's got that kind of flexibility and ability 219 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: to him potentially. Three picks before the Bengals, the Packers 220 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: selected defensive tackle DeVante Wyatt out of Georgia. One pick 221 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: before the Bengals, the chief selected defensive end George Karloftus 222 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: of Purdue. If either of those two guys was on 223 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: the board, do you think the Bengals would have selected 224 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: them instead? You know, prop possibly, I think I would have. 225 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: Johnson was there pretty late. I mean, those guys Wyatt 226 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: a three technique you're down a man in the in 227 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: the defensive tackle three technique position. If Wyatt's there, you 228 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: gotta give that serious consideration. If Johnson's there as an 229 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: edge guy, and karloftis and they both were into the 230 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: late twenties, I mean, it was like the draft pretty 231 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: much once he got to like there were five picks. 232 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: I counted at least five guys that I would have 233 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: been okay with, you know, including Booth. And they didn't 234 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: have to get that far because they had guys that 235 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: were there that I don't think they anticipated that would 236 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: be there. But in a lot of cases people that 237 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: anticipate Booth would have been there either. But the fact 238 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: that that so many receivers were taken so early, I 239 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: mean that that was a big benefit to the Bengals. 240 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: There was no question about it. You know, quarterbacks nobody 241 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: went before twenty so. But I mean there was a 242 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: run on defensive defensive ends in the beginning. There were 243 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: five defensive players taken, three edge guys, two corners with 244 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: the first five picks, and I thought, uh boy, you know, 245 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: and then all the offensive players started going offensive tackles went, 246 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: a center went to interior lineman went, I'm like, oh okay, 247 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: now we're cooking. We got a bunch of receivers and 248 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of offensive lineman went, there's gonna be some 249 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: defensive players for the Bengals at the back end. And 250 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: as it all unfolded, there they were, you know, a 251 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: handful of them sitting right there at the end of 252 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: the first round where they could just kind of patiently, 253 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, be disciplined and be patient and see what 254 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: see what was going to be left. What do you 255 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: think of the Ravens getting Tyler Linderbaum with the twenty 256 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: fifth pick. Yeah, I mean I think that's where a 257 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: lot of people had him, you know, in the twenties. 258 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: I think Linderbaum is a is an outstanding football player. 259 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: I think he's as good a finisher as a blocker, tenacious, 260 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, he just a great, tremendous motor, great motor 261 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: could fit for Baltimore or the running game. I think. So, 262 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, I think that it's going to be it'll 263 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: be interesting to see how he handles these really big 264 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna these big nose tackles. I mean, 265 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: what what how's How's that? That's the that's the concerned 266 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,839 Speaker 1: with him is he's undersized, you know, two hundred and 267 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: ninety three pounds with short arms. But he was a 268 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: wrestler and he knows leverage and he sinks his hips. 269 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: He plays with a low pad level. You know, he 270 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: anchors pretty well at the collegiate level. Will he be? 271 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: Will DJ Reader handle this kid? Now? DJ Reader is 272 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: going to have to bring his lunch pale because this 273 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: kid will not quit. He will play from snap to whistle, 274 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: every single snap. He's not going to quit. It'll be 275 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. There's going to be some some big 276 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: interior defensive lineman just in this division that it's going 277 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: to be a challenge for this young man. But uh, 278 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: you know, I do believe that when you watch his 279 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: college tape, there's no doubt that he definitely deserved to 280 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: be a first round draft pick. You mentioned the run 281 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: on wide receivers. Between picks eight and twelve, there were 282 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: four wide receivers selected, including three that were together at 283 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: Ohio State. At one point six of the first eighteen 284 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: picks were wide receivers. It's a good year to be 285 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: set at wide receiver, like the Bengals are because not 286 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: only where those wide receivers selected, but Tennessee trades Aj 287 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: Brown to the Eagles, the Ravens trade Hollywood Brown to 288 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Earlier in the offseason, Davante Adams, Tyreek Kill, 289 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper all got dealt. The wide receiver market has 290 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: gone crazy. It was the wild Wild West. The trades 291 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: and a lot of what was due to the wide receivers, 292 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: and a lot of it is we're not going to 293 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: pay our wide receiver twenty million. We don't have a 294 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback with the rookie contract. We can't afford that. 295 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: So you move the wide receiver to a team that 296 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: feels like they can fit it into their salary cap, 297 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: and you replace it with a highly drafted rookie and 298 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: hope that there's not going to be a major fall 299 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: off a cliff in terms of talent. But yeah, it 300 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: was incredible the way they're basically dumping salary, you know 301 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: before they have to negotiate these astronomical deals. And you know, 302 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: the safety position a couple of years ago, you know 303 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: started climbing, Well now it's leveled off and kind of declined. 304 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: So you know, what does what does that mean for 305 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: the Jesse Bates negotiation with the Cincinnati Bengals. Obviously this year, Uh, 306 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: there's a strong chance that he could be playing out 307 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: you know, the franchise tag. But you know, you never know, 308 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: you never know if you can, if you can get 309 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: him sign or not. But if you can't, you know 310 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: you've got a guy that you can potentially groom for 311 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: a year to move to that position if necessary. So 312 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: you always have to you have to be as flexible 313 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: as the players are. You have to have personnel flexibility, 314 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, not just position versatility for the players. You 315 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: have to have personnel and salary cap flexibility as as 316 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: an organization as well. As everybody knows the Bengals can 317 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: start working on a Joe Burrow extension next year. If 318 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: Joe wants to continue to throw to both te Higgins 319 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: and Jamar Chase the future, he's going to have to 320 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: be very willing to work out the type of deal 321 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: that allows the Bengals to keep some of these guys, 322 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: whether it means taking a little less or structuring it 323 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: in such a way that gives the Bengal some flexibility. 324 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: Because Tee Higgins and Jamar Chase are both tracking to 325 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: be twenty million dollar guys. Yeah, And I mean even 326 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: if he does give you a hometown discount as such, 327 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: can you still afford it? Can you still afford a 328 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: quarterback that? I mean he deserves me in the top five, 329 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. Probably top three, maybe even 330 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: better than that. So if you're up there at that number, 331 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: you know you're looking at forty million a year plus 332 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: another forty million between two receivers, mana chevits. That TV 333 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: contract better be sweet sugar atte. I mean, there better 334 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: be a salary cap that's just like out of the 335 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 1: stratosphere to be able to And that's what you don't know, 336 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: you know exactly what that number is going to be. 337 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: But I do think that Joe Burrow, in my mind, 338 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: seems to be the kind of guy that you know, 339 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: is reasonable about. My goals are to I want to 340 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: be successful. I've got personal goals, but the team goals 341 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: are the biggest in my mind. I mean, he definitely 342 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: he's been on a national championship team, he came within 343 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: a whisker of being on a super Bowl championship team. 344 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: He wants to win the ring in the NFL, just 345 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: like he won the ring in college. All right, one 346 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: round in the books, the Bengals pick up a safety. 347 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: Next two rounds of the draft coming up tomorrow. Now, 348 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: in four out of the last five years, they've traded 349 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: back in the second round, and this if they do 350 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: it again, it'll almost certainly mean trading out of the 351 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: second round. Do you think that's likely? It's possible. But 352 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: to me, I thought trading back tonight would have been 353 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: like trading out of the second round as the thirty 354 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: first pick, you know, I mean, you're you're just about there. 355 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: Trading out of the second round tomorrow would be like 356 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: an early third round pick. I think a little bit 357 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: different dynamic. The players would be more picked over at 358 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: that particular point in time. But with that said, if 359 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: they're picked over and you only have one or two 360 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: left that you really, you know, think you your needs 361 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: are different than the Bengals and you're targeting needs, it 362 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: could happen. There's there's no question about it. But um, 363 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: you know, I think the Bengals feel like there's going 364 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: to be you know, good players. Um, it's still it 365 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: needs like edge, rush, corner, um, you know, in the second, third, 366 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: fourth round, No question about it. I think that the 367 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: draft um is deep. It Obviously, the players are smaller, slower, 368 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: whatever it's. You know, they're not quite the same you know, 369 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: traits as such, but you put tape on, they're still 370 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: damn good football players and they project to play in 371 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: the National Football League. Maybe more of a developmental situation, 372 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: but I think they're going to get good players to 373 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: uh to be able to work with and develop in 374 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: that area for sure. The Bengals have Joe Burrow, the 375 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: Browns now have Deshaun Watson. The Ravens obviously have Lamar Jackson. 376 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: Did the Steelers enter that stratosphere and quarterback play by 377 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: drafting Kenny pick It out of pit number twenty? Overall? 378 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I think they've got they've got 379 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: a big wild card at the quarterback position. You have 380 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: a guy that came out of the out of the 381 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: college draft as the second pick in the draft, Mitchell Trubisky. Yeah, 382 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,239 Speaker 1: and trade it up to do it. I mean, he 383 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: was highly regarded and he's got some physical attributes. Now, 384 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: it didn't work for whatever. You can probably point to 385 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: a myriad of reasons that it didn't work. But you know, 386 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky's not going to use it as excuses. I mean, 387 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure in his mind, you know, he's not satisfied 388 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: with the way things worked out. I'm sure he If 389 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: you're going to be realistic about it and honest about it, 390 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, he's a factor as much as organizational deficiencies 391 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: were a factor in his lack of development. So I 392 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: think the kid does have glo abilities though. I mean, 393 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: he does have some athleticisms. He's another one. He's not 394 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: as stiff in the pocket. This kid can run, he 395 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: can move around, and he's got some arm He's got 396 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: some arm strength. He's got some arm talent. So yeah, 397 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: I wonder if you know, they look at Picket to 398 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: be I think Pickets the quarterback that was the most 399 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: NFL ready, And I think he does have accuracy ball placement. 400 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: I thought. I think he's he's pretty darn good short 401 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: intermediate passing game in particular. I mean, he puts the 402 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: ball in really good spots. He doesn't have a howitzer 403 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: hanging off his right shoulder, but he's got plenty of 404 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: arm talent. You wouldn't say that he has, you know, 405 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: upper echelon NFL arm strength though, but throwing it straight 406 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: and throwing it accurately and putting where in the place 407 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: that you want to put it are very important traits 408 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: and he seems to have those. And he's another one 409 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: that's not as stiff in the pocket. He can move around. 410 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: I mean the AFC North they don't have the statue 411 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: of liberty is playing the quarterback position. They get they 412 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: get bigger people that can that can extend and create 413 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: and you know, make you miss on free runner sacks 414 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: on the whole nine yards. So it's going to be 415 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: a challenge for Louiana Roumo and his coaches and his 416 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: defensive players to compete and win this division. Again, there's 417 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: no doubt Round one is in the books. They fed us. Well, 418 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: it was a good TV show. Let's do it again tomorrow. 419 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: Let's do it again. Let's do it again second and 420 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: third round tomorrow. Man, the NFL Draft has become a spectacle. 421 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: When I think to what it used to be and 422 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: what it is now, I mean, it's it's must must 423 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: watch TV. It really is. I'll post a new episode 424 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: of this podcast on Friday night after rounds two and three. 425 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: That's going to do it for this episode of the 426 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast, presented by Ultimate Bengals. Download Ultimate Bengals 427 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: ahead of the twenty twenty two season. It's free to 428 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: play next level fantasy football with fantastic Bengals prizes. Get 429 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: it now on the App Store and Google Play. 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