WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: What Does The Future Hold?

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<v Speaker 1>The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Head Hours at

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<v Speaker 1>the Star in Friscott. Now your hosts Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>Everson Walls, and Bill Jones. And here we are on

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<v Speaker 1>the morning after the Cowboys beat the Redskins on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet the Giants fall to the Eagles. And so

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<v Speaker 1>now the new year comes a couple of days early

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<v Speaker 1>for your Dallas Cowboys as we look ahead to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty and look back at what happened in an eight

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<v Speaker 1>and eight season. This is Talking Cowboys, and we've got

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<v Speaker 1>much to get to here in the SWBC Mortgage Studios

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<v Speaker 1>got the full squads. Start on time, guys, the SEP

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<v Speaker 1>time is killing me. What's going on? Man? I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was joining a profession sheeted out of five minute

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<v Speaker 1>You ate Nate when you don't so slow starts it

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<v Speaker 1>was the story was one story of the season. Were

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<v Speaker 1>slow Start here on Talking Cowboys also, and so here

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<v Speaker 1>we are and uh, let's I guess go around the

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<v Speaker 1>table and just a quick take on where we are

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Mickey, kind of where you think you would

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<v Speaker 1>be when you have to rely on somebody else to

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<v Speaker 1>do your dirty one. You had your opportunity against the

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia Eagles the week before. You didn't cash in. And

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<v Speaker 1>as I say over and over again, the NFL helps

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<v Speaker 1>those who helped themselves, and the Cowboys didn't help themselves enough.

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<v Speaker 1>The Giants teased them, uh, tease them almost seventeen goes

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen nine yards two five left in the third and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tie game. Seventeen seventeen. You're sitting there going, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe chips, maybe everyone will like Jerry Jones at the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Every one's had them. Yeah, split screen. You had one

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<v Speaker 1>TV on the we had one TV in the press

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<v Speaker 1>box down there on that game. And then Elliot hit

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty yarder and then the FuMB boy was about

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<v Speaker 1>the same time the Cowboys make a field goal to

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<v Speaker 1>as it was very weird. Every time one very weird,

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<v Speaker 1>the other one scored all to the realities or something. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that was very good, but it did not turn out

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<v Speaker 1>the wind. No super Bowl bill just you're gonna be there,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Whatever. If you would have won the hat Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>then I think we were doing in better shapes. That's right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>wore wore. We don't get into the head was not

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<v Speaker 1>getting I'm sorry, Billy, that way exactly how I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was. Although you know, although if there is any

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<v Speaker 1>saving grace, at least they did what they needed to

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<v Speaker 1>do and beat the Redskins forty seven sixteen. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I've ever seen a victory over the

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<v Speaker 1>Redskins so hollow in my life, right, because usually if

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<v Speaker 1>you just beat the Redskins, even if they're bad, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great deal, right, And you beat them forty seven sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>And as Dak Prescott said after the game, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I've ever been as disappointed after a win. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a quiet locker room. Not many guys talked.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean they had their chances, that they had

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<v Speaker 1>their chance a week ago and they didn't capitalize in Philly.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you look back at this season, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna look back at a lot of things, but

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<v Speaker 1>the close games in particular, they were one in six

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<v Speaker 1>and games decided by one score, and last year I

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<v Speaker 1>think they were something like nine and three, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make the plays in the fourth quarter. We mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>the slow starts. Those were a thing all year long.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, when you go back and review this season,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're gonna look at some things that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go right that cost them in the playoffs last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Are same things the games they lost. They didn't convert

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<v Speaker 1>in the red zone, they didn't stop the run at times,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't take the ball away, and those are

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett mentioned on the on the Fan this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't make enough winning type plays consistently this season,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why they're eight and eight, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>they're home for the playoffs. Yeah, when you started thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about it, you've got what the turnovers in the game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we made the third downs. It was going

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<v Speaker 1>back to what we were accustomed to. And as you

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the game and as it was over, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure if I was in that locker room and I

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those players, I would have been contemplating

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<v Speaker 1>so many things at that point, all the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you pointed out, you know, our failties and and everything

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<v Speaker 1>that we messed up, our inability to you know, keep

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<v Speaker 1>things in our own hands, you know, to keep our

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<v Speaker 1>fate in our own hands. I think that really is

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<v Speaker 1>the most disappointing part of it. Um. We can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the different individual stats and failures, but when it

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<v Speaker 1>all comes down to it, they were not a good team.

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<v Speaker 1>We always talk about the superstars, We always talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the salaries that we gave out. And I've said it

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<v Speaker 1>over and over again. You don't need a team full

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<v Speaker 1>of superstars to beat a team full of superstars. You

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<v Speaker 1>just need a good team. And who who implifies that

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<v Speaker 1>right now to me? The Philadelphia Eagles. Yea, everything that

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<v Speaker 1>they got, they deserved everything that they have right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And we deserve everything that we have right now because

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<v Speaker 1>those guys did what we did last year with nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>with less at least last year, Dak and the guys

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<v Speaker 1>had Zeke and you had Cooper, had the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>They were man. I think the guy said yesterday some

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<v Speaker 1>of the guys had just met in the huddle. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me think about, Hey, how you doing it right? I

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<v Speaker 1>just signed up about it right before the game. And

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<v Speaker 1>here you got practice player, former practice player got three

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns yesterday. Scott. Did I read that? Boston Scott? Boston

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<v Speaker 1>Scott the running back and just think about that he

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<v Speaker 1>was a practice player. Yeah, no excuses and almost. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>we got a lot of elbows in the face. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he did play in high school basketball, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or go pick up basketball. Yeah, yeah, I didn't grow

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<v Speaker 1>any from high school. Yeah. All right, let's do this

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll uh. Douglas Barricklough is doing the producing honors today,

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<v Speaker 1>chores today, and he's got some cuts from Jason Garrett's

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<v Speaker 1>appearance this morning on one oh five three the Fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start with this. Despite missing the playoffs, Garrett pleased

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<v Speaker 1>with the way his team played yesterday. That was so

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by how our team played yesterday. And ultimately, as

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<v Speaker 1>a coach, you know that that's the stuff that becomes

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<v Speaker 1>most important to you. And uh, you know, the look

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<v Speaker 1>our guys had in the rye is and how they played,

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<v Speaker 1>and the love they had for the game and for

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<v Speaker 1>each other, and just how hard they played and how

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<v Speaker 1>determined they played, and how tough they played and how

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<v Speaker 1>willful they played. You those are the things as a

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<v Speaker 1>coach that you just you value more than anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, ultimately we didn't get it done. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we weren't a playoff team this year. That's

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<v Speaker 1>disappointing for everybody. And no one more than us, the

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<v Speaker 1>guys who were directly involved in it. But yesterday was

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<v Speaker 1>a good day. We control we could control, and the

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<v Speaker 1>guys played inspirational football. As a coach, that's that we

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<v Speaker 1>value most. You know, the big takeaway I had from

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<v Speaker 1>the whole post game scene yesterday was, you know, these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>as disappointing as it is any team, especially at this level,

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<v Speaker 1>you invest so much during the year, and Dak Prescott

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<v Speaker 1>talks about the brotherhood that develops every year, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>emotional regardless at the when you've even invested, like this

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<v Speaker 1>team invested it, even though the results aren't what they

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<v Speaker 1>everyone wanted it to be. It's's an emotional time at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the season when you're when it's the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the road, well, you know, when you're spending

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<v Speaker 1>your whole time with these guys, you know, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>with your teammates more than you're with your family. They

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<v Speaker 1>might see you guys more than they I might see

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<v Speaker 1>you guys more I might see my wife, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm playing during the season, and you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you start getting real close to these guys and your

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<v Speaker 1>your efforts come together and then you're you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>together when you lose, you're together when you win. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you go through these ups and downs like a family.

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<v Speaker 1>You know they're gonna be some arguments, some disappointments, but

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<v Speaker 1>then in the end is when you finally realize we

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<v Speaker 1>did all of this together, good or bad. Well, we

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<v Speaker 1>are all in this together, and it is I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it does get pretty emotional, you know, especially when you're

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<v Speaker 1>disappointing in the disappointing season. It's emotionally enough when the

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<v Speaker 1>season's over. After Super Bowl win, it's really emotionally when

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even get there and get to watch all

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys and the accolades and things of that nature,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that you have really and if you're that player

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<v Speaker 1>and you in this particular situation, you would look at

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and say, I let my teammates down. No matter

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<v Speaker 1>how well you played, if I would have done better,

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<v Speaker 1>then we would have done better. That's the team concept.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like Zeke said, after the game, it becomes like

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<v Speaker 1>a family. And Jeff heat told me, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's sitting there talking to us with two bad shoulders

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<v Speaker 1>and probably at least one probably needs to get fixed

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<v Speaker 1>in the off season. Guys playing through stuff. He said.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've we've been together basically every day since April.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when the when the off season program starts.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you summed it up, great former player, you

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly what it's like when or lose at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the season. Um, and and the reality sets

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<v Speaker 1>in that this group will never be together again. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean especially, I think that that is really the ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>sadness about it. You know that something's gonna change and

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<v Speaker 1>this this will never happen again. This will never happen,

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<v Speaker 1>not this exact group. And uh, you know, go to

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<v Speaker 1>on the list here, it's like twenty it is twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six potential unrestricted free agents. Yeah, a lot of potential

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<v Speaker 1>change on this team, you know. And I think the

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<v Speaker 1>hardest thing is is you're going from start of training

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<v Speaker 1>camp to you know, the last game of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going one hundred miles an hour, right, and then

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, when you get in situations like this,

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<v Speaker 1>say say you're six and six and nine or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're not going to the playoffs. You know

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<v Speaker 1>the season's over. You go three and twelve, you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the last game, you know the season's over. But

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<v Speaker 1>this was almost like a playoff game where one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>miles an hour then everything comes to a screeching halt.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's so hard if if I was

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<v Speaker 1>a player, Heck, it's hard for us, right, Yeah, We're

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<v Speaker 1>going one hundred miles an hour and then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, well it's over, And I think that would

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<v Speaker 1>be the hardest thing to accept. The most sobering thing

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<v Speaker 1>is here in a few minutes in the locker room

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to open to the media, and those trash bags

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<v Speaker 1>comes out. Guys are cleaning out their lockers after their

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<v Speaker 1>final team meetings, like you get the box, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in the office, you get the box. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys got the trash bag. Yeah, and guys start

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<v Speaker 1>asking answering questions about their contract status coming up, whether

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<v Speaker 1>they need surgery in the offseason. I mean, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a totally different vibe, and it's it's the reality

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<v Speaker 1>sets in. This is it all right? Here's more from

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett from This Morning on one O five three

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<v Speaker 1>The fan answering a big picture question, what did he

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<v Speaker 1>think went wrong this season? I think the overarching explanation

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<v Speaker 1>is we weren't consistent enough. We weren't consistent enough throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the year, from game to game. We weren't consistent enough

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<v Speaker 1>within games. We didn't do the things that winning football

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<v Speaker 1>teams do. And you know, we have a we have

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<v Speaker 1>a basic formula for winning that we talk a lot about.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to win the ball, you have to win

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<v Speaker 1>the big players, you have to win the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>And oftentimes when you when you pull back after a

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<v Speaker 1>ball game to evaluate those three statistics, you know those

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<v Speaker 1>will be the deciding factors in games. If you lose

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<v Speaker 1>the turnover ratio, you're going to lose a lot of games.

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<v Speaker 1>In the NFL. If one team is making many more

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<v Speaker 1>big plays than the other team in the game, typically

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<v Speaker 1>that correlates to points. You know, you make big plays

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<v Speaker 1>typically score points. If you don't, it's hard to score points.

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<v Speaker 1>And then obviously, so many of these games are decided

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter. They're one score games. Two thirds

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<v Speaker 1>of the games in the NFL decided by one score.

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<v Speaker 1>And how you play in those games, you know, how

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<v Speaker 1>you play in the fourth quarter is huge. If you

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<v Speaker 1>make the players on offense or if you make the

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<v Speaker 1>stops on defense, do what you need to do. In

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<v Speaker 1>the kicking game. And you know, in the games that

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<v Speaker 1>we lost, many of them were close games, one score games.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the best thing we did with our team last year.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we won seven out of eight down the stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>eight out of ten down the stretch last year, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were close games. They were back and forth. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're ahead, they're a head, scores tied, and we do

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<v Speaker 1>we need to do at the end of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>This year, in the games that we lost, we weren't

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<v Speaker 1>able to get that done. And ultimately that's the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was the difference, right one in six and

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<v Speaker 1>one score games. And I think in some of those

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<v Speaker 1>one score games they became one score games because they

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<v Speaker 1>had fallen behind right so much that they had to

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<v Speaker 1>score so much just to make it a one. That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't all yeah, but they have some opportunities in

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<v Speaker 1>some of them, and they put in cash in late,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And there was never ever a better example

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<v Speaker 1>of what he was saying than the Seattle Seahawks. They

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<v Speaker 1>went into the game last night and they of their

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<v Speaker 1>eleven wins, ten were one score games. And what happens

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<v Speaker 1>last night, it's a one score game and they're right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they get penalized and they can't get in the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone and they lose twenty six twenty one when

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<v Speaker 1>the tight end landed six inches from the goal line.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometime they say that it catches up with you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what, and I and that was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of my what I wrote about from last year to

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<v Speaker 1>this year, it caught up with them. They won eight

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<v Speaker 1>games last year by one score. It's like, okay, now

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<v Speaker 1>this year you're testing face of the attempting. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>not knocking people out right dominating them, at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff's gonna even out. You can't keep winning like that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the pattern that they had was was not a good pattern,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, having to win those close games and putting

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in position to having to make that play. All

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden you can't make that play or that

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<v Speaker 1>field goal or that field goal, and so here you

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<v Speaker 1>got you can say, Okay, well it's coaching. We should

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<v Speaker 1>have done this, We should have done that. No one

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<v Speaker 1>questioned any of their you know, any of their approach.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, last year, there was no questioning how they wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh this could have gone this way in that game

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<v Speaker 1>or for those games we didn't. We didn't quantify how

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<v Speaker 1>full of those games could have gone another way right

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<v Speaker 1>now here we are talking about them. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>on that Seattle game, ironic was it that this Saints

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<v Speaker 1>missed out on a chance at a first round by

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<v Speaker 1>because the replay booth decided not to review and obvious pass?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, my NFL officiocule, how could they not

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<v Speaker 1>even look at that? I mean, okay, say you say that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what they were going to say. The

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<v Speaker 1>call in the field stands. But look at it and

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody said, I mean because they because they passed

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<v Speaker 1>the rule right, so you might as well, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was broadcast justified. He tried to justify it by saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to come in and change a game

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<v Speaker 1>with that call? Yeah, well that no call, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>that That's why the rule was put in. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>they said. That's why the rule. And then let me

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<v Speaker 1>throw this out there. Can you imagine the criticism Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett would have gotten if his team got down on

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<v Speaker 1>the one yard line and getting got a delay a

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<v Speaker 1>game penalty? How do they look? That looked like us

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<v Speaker 1>watching that game? How did they get a delayed? But

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<v Speaker 1>it just they blew it. Asked Jason garb the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>How did something have They just blew it. They wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even explain it. They tried to talk about it after

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<v Speaker 1>the game. He just brushed over it. Pete Call said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just what it was. And then they tried

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<v Speaker 1>to try to explain the way, saying, oh, well, now

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<v Speaker 1>they have more room to pass the ball we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>from the six stop. Even the commentators were silly on

0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.320
<v Speaker 1>that one. They gave it a pass. They gave them

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<v Speaker 1>a pass. If that was Jason Garrett, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>the talk of the entire game. Jason Garrett blew the

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<v Speaker 1>whole season right there. I can't remember which game it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was somewhere in the in the nineties in the

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl seasons where the Cowboys were kind of in

0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.520
<v Speaker 1>that same situation about the six yard line, and Troy

0:16:56.600 --> 0:17:01.280
<v Speaker 1>threw a pass underneath against Eland right now, remember, and

0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.080
<v Speaker 1>he ended up at the half yard line, And how

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<v Speaker 1>could you throw the ball underneath? You got to throw

0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.360
<v Speaker 1>it in the end zone. They had no timehouse left,

0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and so the clock is run, the actual game clock

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<v Speaker 1>is running, and they couldn't get another playoff. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, one more before we take a break. One

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<v Speaker 1>more from Jason Garrett asked what his future holds. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I don't know. We're gonna go in this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, the guys have acted physicals, so we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk to our players. We're gonna have a team meeting

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<v Speaker 1>at at twelve noon, and I'm scheduled a visit with

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<v Speaker 1>the Joneses after that and we'll have a good visit

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see what's we'll see what's next. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room was open at noon other team meetings.

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<v Speaker 1>I just heard it's gonna be a little later, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Yeah, so the team meeting takes place right

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<v Speaker 1>after talking counts everyone precedence, then us getting in the lock.

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<v Speaker 1>When I woke up this morning, I was looking for

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<v Speaker 1>esp in the load or something already. Yeah, we had

0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:59.760
<v Speaker 1>two of them. Yeah kitchens. Last night Cleveland made that

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<v Speaker 1>move quickly, Aqui quickly after they lost count and then

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<v Speaker 1>this morning Pat Shermer let go, but Dave Gentleman is

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<v Speaker 1>staying on as the gem of the New York Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's Jason Garrett's futurements. That's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>speculative lining up like that. It sounds like it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's unique because he's he's out of contract. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>if they decide to go in a different direction, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not of firing. Would it would be Yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even and I don't even know if if they do,

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<v Speaker 1>if they do change direction, I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 1>they would make an announcement or when they would make

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<v Speaker 1>an announcement, because if you look at it, Mick like

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<v Speaker 1>a player as a free agent. They don't announce that

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<v Speaker 1>a player leaves. I don't know how we'll see how

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<v Speaker 1>this unfort I think if there was, if there was

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<v Speaker 1>an announcement, and I'm just speculat, I have no idea,

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<v Speaker 1>but it would be a mutual parting of the ways.

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<v Speaker 1>If that way was, I think it would describe describe

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<v Speaker 1>one Jason, how about we here from another Jason? From

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<v Speaker 1>the post game yesterday, Mister Witton reflects on yesterday's game,

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<v Speaker 1>with both its playoff implications and the possibility it was

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<v Speaker 1>the last of his career. I've never experienced anything like it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, really, you showed up today and

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<v Speaker 1>you just felt like, you know, it was gonna work out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. We had to take care of our business

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<v Speaker 1>and felt like maybe in New York could beat him,

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<v Speaker 1>and but look, we had opportunities in this season and

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<v Speaker 1>we felt short. And it's a tough day across the

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<v Speaker 1>board because I think this team was close, but we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play well at critical times this season. And I

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<v Speaker 1>can go back at different points and recognize that, but

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<v Speaker 1>just I wanted to share with those guys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I came back, it was a huge challenge. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>proud that I was able to kind of be there

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<v Speaker 1>You got to go in there and approach it every

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<v Speaker 1>just know that it takes a lot of hard work,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes a lot of determination, and you know, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth it. This game has been so good to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this game, and it was a it was

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<v Speaker 1>a heck of a year. Well you can hear the

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<v Speaker 1>emotion in his voice, and I think that was probably

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<v Speaker 1>the way he reacted after the game. Probably it he

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<v Speaker 1>was going in and he turned around and he grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>and they posed for a picture side by side, and

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 1>then he ran to the northeast corner towards the end

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:56.240
<v Speaker 1>zone and waved to the stand so I assume that's

0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:58.680
<v Speaker 1>where his family was. And then when he came back,

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.719
<v Speaker 1>when he got behind the boys bench, he went he

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:05.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't go in through the club area. He went along

0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 1>the sideline and slapped hands with the fans that were

0:25:08.280 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>sitting in those bunker suites before he went into the tunnel.

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 1>So it was almost like he didn't want to do

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the last kind of harah that players do, but but

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:20.359
<v Speaker 1>prior to the game, he didn't want him And then yeah,

0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and then afterwards he kind of made his last walk

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 1>and he said, you know, he said he would take

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:26.840
<v Speaker 1>a few days to the side, but he heard the

0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 1>emotion in his voice. And if I'm not mistaken, he

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:31.920
<v Speaker 1>was on the sideline for much of that fourth quarter.

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:33.960
<v Speaker 1>It was it was Jarwin and Schultz. And then he

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 1>came back in for victory formation. Yep, gave the guys

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>a hug and uh, you know that seemed kind of symbolic. Well,

0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 1>the other part of that is on the on the television,

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 1>they showed the shot he had and this is when

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 1>the defense was on the field, all right. He had

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>had shaking hands with teammates on the sideline and then

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:53.920
<v Speaker 1>he had his helmet on. I thought that was so cool.

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 1>The defense is on the field and he it was

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 1>like it was as if we take it off one

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>last time. He's putting his helmet on the field. And

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:05.879
<v Speaker 1>he was also probably anticipation he is going back on

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:08.679
<v Speaker 1>the field for victory formation here because the defense was

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 1>about to hold him. But I'll tell you what, he

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:14.960
<v Speaker 1>is blessed because only a few, a very small percentage

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:17.880
<v Speaker 1>of former players get a chance to go out like that.

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Most of us are just just acted and you're out.

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, we get the box, like you said, we

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 1>get the sacking and then we're out of there. So yeah,

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, he deserves. To me, every player deserves

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 1>to go out like that. But it's good to see

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:35.160
<v Speaker 1>somebody get that opportunity who deserves it because to me,

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.000
<v Speaker 1>players that are put in a lot of work for

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't care if he's one team or many different

0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.080
<v Speaker 1>teams were all emotional about it, you know, whether you

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 1>see us cry or not. You know, we go through

0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. And there's a lot of guys that

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 1>deserve the accolades that Jason has gotten on the way

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:57.800
<v Speaker 1>that they have gone out, And I'm just glad to

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 1>see somebody get a chance to go out like that

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 1>because it's a tough game. NFL is a tough game

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:04.199
<v Speaker 1>when you get when you get put out. Did you

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>know your last game was your last game? I did not. No,

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I did not, So yeah, it's myself. You can think

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:13.159
<v Speaker 1>of some great players that were never able to go

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>out with the dignity that that was shown to Jason Witten.

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.240
<v Speaker 1>So it's good to see somebody to get that. But

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.200
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of guys that have come through

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:26.119
<v Speaker 1>this cowboy through this this cowboy organization that deserved that

0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:28.120
<v Speaker 1>same kind of love, and they did not get it.

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>So kudos two. The Cowboys were given Jason winn't a

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>chance to do that, and that one. Usually somebody tells you, yeah,

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>last yeah, you don't realize they don't even when they

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 1>don't give you the love. Did you finish the season?

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I did not. You did not. I did not know.

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:44.680
<v Speaker 1>So it happens to a lot of us, no doubt.

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>One more from Witton talking about his teammates, the Cowboys organization,

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>and a particularly notable moment in his career. Oh the start,

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think the beginning, you know, green as

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 1>I could be just turned twenty one years old, playing

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 1>for a legendary coach, Bill Parcels, who had a blueprint

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 1>on what the tight end position looked like, you know,

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and walking into the Valley Ranch and meeting the Jones

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:12.159
<v Speaker 1>family and seeing the legendary figures that you know, my

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>grandfather talked about of Tom Landry and Roger Shawback and

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 1>Michael Irvin and saying that I'm gonna be one of

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 1>those guys one day, and nobody in help probably thought

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>that was going to happen, but you know, to be

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>standing here, and really it's the relationships. I mean, guys

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>like you, guys and certainly those teammates have just walked out.

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:33.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's a small family, you know, and you

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>sacrifice a lot, but this ordanary organization surrounded with really

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 1>good people, and I think the older you get, you

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 1>appreciate going to work every day and being around people

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>that are passionate, make others around them better and are unselfish,

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>and that's something that I appreciate. So sixteen years, I

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's going to be the end. I'll

0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:57.160
<v Speaker 1>take a few days and figure it out, but I

0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>think it's decision will happen pretty quickly here in the

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>next few weeks. Yeah, pretty quickly, Yeah, pretty quickly. Days awfully,

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 1>awfully reflective. And I do think he kind of stopped

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and smelled the roses this year a little bit more

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>than maybe he did in the past. I mean when

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>he first came back in the spring, Mick he stopped

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 1>us in the training table and shot the bowl with

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 1>us for I don't know, thirty minutes, and I remember

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>my sandwich just getting super cold. But he was so great.

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 1>It was great and right, He was so excited to

0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>be back, and I think, yeah, great, but that that

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously, you know he made the decision to

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 1>come back, but it also you know, TV didn't work

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>out the way he probably planned. But at the same time,

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a hard decision to come back because you know,

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>this is killing him to make the decision, put the

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>work in, and nobody wants a title more than he

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.120
<v Speaker 1>than he does. It has to be kind of heart

0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>breaking for him as well, because he thought, as well

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 1>as we all did, that this team was gonna be it.

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go out with a bang with these guys.

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, we've got it together, you know, with the

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>previous year and all of a sudden we got this year.

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna build up to something great. And I'm sure

0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>he saw this thing ending a lot differently than how

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it did. But I mean, it's kind of hard to

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.040
<v Speaker 1>feel sorry for him because the guy had a great career.

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 1>Of course, you know, we know how it is you

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 1>gotta go, but man, you guys got to look back

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:27.920
<v Speaker 1>on all the good things that he did, man, and

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>realize that they'll never forget him. He'll never be forgotten

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.920
<v Speaker 1>about him, So you know, He mentioned that Bill had

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a kind of an idea of what a tight end was. Parcels, Parcels,

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and I'll never forget this. It was one of his

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>first offseason. Yeah, it was one of his first day

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was an OTA or a

0:30:49.360 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 1>mini camp practice and went and kind of went over

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the middle and caught a pass and Parcels barks out, Yeah,

0:30:56.000 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>that's my past catching side. Because he saw Mark Bavarro

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>of course him and you know Mark Bavaro Wright, and

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>he wanted to make him a complete tight end, not

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>just some guy that's gonna line up in the slot

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 1>and catch pass. Let's just be real, guys, tight is right,

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>are taking over the game, right, Let's just be real.

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>And it really kind of started right there. You know,

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>Bavaro was one of those guys. But then you know,

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>winning those guys they were, they were that class that

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 1>came up. You know that that was really great. It

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 1>was a guy for the Falcon's big tight end. I

0:31:30.320 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>mean the commentator, thank you, thank you. Gonzalez was with

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 1>that group as well. I mean, these guys came up,

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.080
<v Speaker 1>former basketball players. Antonio Gates came all of a sudden,

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>he got these former basketball players and they're taking over

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the league. And one thing which said he talked about

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:48.760
<v Speaker 1>how he's proud of the way he played. One thing

0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>he mentioned was he's proud of the way he blocked

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 1>this year. He said, this is one of the best

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>blocking seasons he's probably had the last few years. In

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a different role. He still had

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>major snaps and played started sixteen games, but he did

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:01.840
<v Speaker 1>some of the more little things that maybe you don't

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 1>notice as much in the run. I think it was

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 1>a big improvement from the year he left. Yes, because

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>when he left, he was making some mistakes, you know,

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:14.719
<v Speaker 1>just unusual mistakes I'm characteristic for Jason. And then when

0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>he came back, I think he was a little bit

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.479
<v Speaker 1>more aware, you know. The other picture I wish I

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>had in the locker room was Sean Lee when we

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>were all getting ready to leave, still in his he

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.800
<v Speaker 1>had still had his game pants on, he had a

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of a T shirt. His knee is bleeding, the

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>calfs of his legs were I don't know, they were

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>just discolored. I don't know if it was from dirt intusions.

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>And then and then he had blood all over his pants,

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 1>right and I'm looking at this and I'm going that's

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Sean Lee right there, that that is the epitome. And

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>and then he didn't want to do the interview, said no,

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll do it monday. He goes on, he goes, I

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 1>got a shower. I don't want to picture of myself

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 1>like this, and I'm thinking I want that That is

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Sean Lee to the right there. So looked like Rocky

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>after a fifteen round. Yeah, no, seriously, So there were Yeah,

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>there was pretty there was a lot of motion. The

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 1>other thing, were you in the stadium still when Jason

0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Garrett and his family and friends on the field, And

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>big impression on me it was it was probably I

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.959
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it was ten. It was approach according

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>to the media, that approaching. So, but he was out

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 1>there for why And he does it after every he's

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>done it, win or lose a lot. But they meet

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>it wherever the family reception room. Yeah, it's not like

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>he goes home right after the game and he always

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 1>goes out there with family. Uh probably niece's, nephews, whatever,

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's the quarterback and he throws the ball around

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and he was pretty funny. Uh this morning when he

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>talked about it because a lot of times they just

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>go out there and they run forty yard dashes or whatever.

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Because we he said, believe it or not, we have

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a hard time finding a football that late after a game.

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 1>But he says, we had a football. So he was

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback for both teams, and uh, you know what,

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and you know, when he and I know the deal,

0:34:03.840 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>he it's probably a long cut that we don't have

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:09.680
<v Speaker 1>time for. But he talked about afterwards being a stand

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>up guy and and and he was. You know, he

0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't change. He standing tall. Yeah, he went out and

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>did that. When he left the locker room for the

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 1>last time and we were about done doing our TV stuff,

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 1>he came out, he tapped me on the shoulders, shook hands.

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 1>He tapped Dak, I mean Babe and Brad on the shoulders,

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 1>shook hands with them and just kind of walked off.

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>And but he did what he always does. You know,

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.920
<v Speaker 1>he didn't it didn't change. He stayed on that podium

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 1>for ten minutes answer answering all the questions and then

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>did them. You know, if it was me, I don't

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 1>know if I would have done that morning radio show. Well,

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, and on that morning radio show. He said

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>what he always says the cut earlier about it was

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:56.160
<v Speaker 1>a good day yesterday, and you know that's Jason Garrett

0:34:56.280 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>because it wasn't. Yeah, I mean, if you look at

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the big picture and that's our job, is that. No,

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a good day in terms of missing the

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 1>playoffs and finishing eight and eight. You know, it's it's

0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 1>a it's a disappointing end to a season. But he's

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 1>proud of his guys finished standing tall and finishing the

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:16.759
<v Speaker 1>season strong. That's that's a coach's mentality, and that's that's

0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>always been his message. Have a great day, and in

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>his mind, you know, the way they finished out, at

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 1>least they finished that way. So all the all the

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.439
<v Speaker 1>people out there that you know got into this deal

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>about you know, his message got stale. He can't motivate

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>the team. Just take your bs home, all right, because

0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that that team didn't have to play the way they

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 1>did yesterday, and they can't and they didn't start off

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.240
<v Speaker 1>very well either, right the way. Listen to how emotional

0:35:42.320 --> 0:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Dak got talking about him after the game. Yeah, respect

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.879
<v Speaker 1>his message that the job didn't get done, but there's

0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>respect for the way he's he's for the way he

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 1>stayed true to himself throughout all these years. You know,

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to me, it's the whole school. You can tell he

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 1>was raised whole school. Yeah, you know, we can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about motivation people. Ye, his dad was jogging until like

0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the day died. He jogged like all around the track

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, but you can tell that's how he was raised.

0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:16.239
<v Speaker 1>He was raised by a man that basically no nonsense.

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.760
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's we have coaches out there that are firing,

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:22.840
<v Speaker 1>firing brimstone. I was. I was taught by a bunch

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 1>of them, but they're also like people like my father.

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>All he wants is I asked you to do something,

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<v Speaker 1>You do it. You know, I don't need to motivate

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>you to do anything. This is what you do. And

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>so I think that's what Jason's philosophy was. Guys, you

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:42.279
<v Speaker 1>know why we're here. I don't need to tell you

0:36:42.320 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>why I've been here myself as a player. Now i'm

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>your coach. I can tell you what's going on. I

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:51.399
<v Speaker 1>parted all this wisdom to you. Now let's go out

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.080
<v Speaker 1>and win some ball games. But they I think these

0:36:54.120 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 1>players they need more than that. As as an old

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.400
<v Speaker 1>school guy. Myself, I would not have needed more than that.

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>All I needed was my teammates to be there with me.

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>That's all I needed. Coaches were they were instructors to me,

0:37:07.000 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and I thought that this team was going to handle

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>that in the same way. But I think they need

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:14.560
<v Speaker 1>somebody to threaten them. I think they need a Jimmy

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Johnson out there because obviously, you know, they just didn't

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>see motivated at the beginning of the tough games that

0:37:21.520 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 1>they had. And let's be real, guys, if this game

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>was in DC, we might have lost that game. That

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 1>was a slow start. It was a slow, ugly although awkward,

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 1>they're not drawing very many fans. Yeah, right, even if

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys say this, let's just say this, the Cowboys

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>came out for that game the same way they came

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 1>out for Philidelphia. Came in Flip, You're right about That's

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.320
<v Speaker 1>what happened. And in the road games they didn't handle

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 1>because the opponents are gonna be more fired up, They're

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be more motivated now they're here in Dallas. The

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.399
<v Speaker 1>last game would not even at home, if they would

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 1>have played in DC, may not have been may not

0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>still been a loss for the red Skins, but they

0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>were played better and they didn't want to win either,

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>by the way. They wanted that. Yeah, let's say that.

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I mean, and it's always hard to

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:13.640
<v Speaker 1>play those types of teams because you know it's gonna

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 1>be four downs, right. I don't even know why they

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>kicked those field goals out. It kept going. It was

0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 1>like I didn't understand why he started off not Yeah,

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.759
<v Speaker 1>he went forward on fourth now the first time, and

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>then he kicked the field goal the second time. He said, well,

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 1>what's the difference? It was fourth and four or fourth

0:38:29.640 --> 0:38:32.879
<v Speaker 1>and seven. I mean, why are you kicking it now? Yeah,

0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 1>that's why. That's right, that's right. Um, all right, So

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.719
<v Speaker 1>so what happens the rest of this day? So it's

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 1>left and we have to break getting ready to come

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>in here. He mentioned that he's meeting with the Joneses

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:48.359
<v Speaker 1>after the team meeting, so we'll see what takes place there.

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.640
<v Speaker 1>And I would imagine, Um, I don't know. I just

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 1>have this feeling we're going to hear something by the

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 1>end of the day. Very well, could be yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>almost and almost in fair this to him, because if

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:03.719
<v Speaker 1>you're letting him go, there's opportunities out of course, right,

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and no sense letting those opportunities pass by. And while

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:10.359
<v Speaker 1>you're hanging on to him with the Giants, Jimmy, let

0:39:10.400 --> 0:39:13.560
<v Speaker 1>me go as soon as the season was open, as

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 1>opposed to being vindictive and holding on to me all

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.359
<v Speaker 1>off season when everyone's always filled up their rosters. Yeah,

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:20.799
<v Speaker 1>and they let me go by the way, But you

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 1>gave him every opportunity, and you were fretnized with them

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:30.439
<v Speaker 1>and with the enemy, with the enemy, if you think

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>about it, this was this was the same situation Troy

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>was in after that twenty twenty season when he wanted

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 1>to get released, so he thought norv would bring him

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:44.040
<v Speaker 1>in as the backup quarterback in San Diego, and Jerry

0:39:44.080 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 1>wanted to wait to June one because he wanted to

0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:52.280
<v Speaker 1>spread out his cap, his his his and Troy. Troy

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 1>got mad at him, and they got mad at each other,

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and then he finally let him go. But by time

0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 1>they released him, uh, Sandy has signed Doug Flutie as

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.160
<v Speaker 1>their kind of veteran back up, and there really wasn't

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity. But Troy in his mind was I'm still

0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 1>playing right wow, And then he finally decided he's still

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>then he decided, Okay, it's time to retire. I mean

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:18.879
<v Speaker 1>DeMarcus Ware kind of the same situation. All I guess

0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 1>he was going to be a free Remember, no, he

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 1>was under contract. He was under the contract. But it

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 1>was right at it was right at the opening day

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 1>of free agency. They decided to Yeah, and I don't

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 1>know him. There was because Troy had a roster bonus

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:34.760
<v Speaker 1>there too. He was going to cost him seven million

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 1>dollars if they kept but they were willing to do

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 1>that to spread out the pro ration of a of

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:42.280
<v Speaker 1>a signing bonus. But yeah, they were going to release

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.240
<v Speaker 1>them and say, okay, but not till June one. Okay,

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