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Speaker 1: Your tune's about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Here on a Thursday, West Shooler and Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson with you as we approach the end of January,

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Speaker 2: we approach the this is always a weird week, Matt,

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Speaker 2: because we're still in the well, not the regular season.

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Speaker 2: We're still in the season, but there's no games this weekend.

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Speaker 2: I guess there is the Pro Bowl game this weekend,

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Speaker 2: but that might be the only Pro Bowl conversation.

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Speaker 3: I'd say their Senior Bowls weekend. I even know when

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Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl was. I don't think I've watched the

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl since I was eight.

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Speaker 2: I say since Sean Taylor destroyed that punter. I think

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Speaker 2: that was the last time I've watched a Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 2: That might have been about twenty years ago.

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Speaker 3: And now the shorter standards in there, it makes me

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Speaker 3: want to watch even less, Like this is the most

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Speaker 3: meaningless thing and up on the planet.

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Speaker 2: This total shiny silver object here. But I was laughing.

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Speaker 2: I think it was Fox Sports or somebody released the

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Speaker 2: report on top ten NFL jerseys sold this season, okay,

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Speaker 2: And like Aaron Rodgers was up there was Drake May

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Speaker 2: was up there. Caleb Williams was one, Josh Allen was two.

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Speaker 2: May was really high. Aaron Rodgers was in the top ten,

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Speaker 2: high top five. He he was like fourth or fifth,

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Speaker 2: And I mean I understand it was like a cult

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Speaker 2: of personality around him and his dad. Right, some of

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Speaker 2: that stuff can't fall around.

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Speaker 3: But I don't care, you know, right, he's the worst

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Speaker 3: player you mentioned.

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Speaker 2: Yes, one of those in the top ten was not

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Speaker 2: like the other. Hey, you know this not as much

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Speaker 2: now at my age, but I used to be super

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Speaker 2: into into sports jerseys. And you go into my closet,

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Speaker 2: there's a whole area in my closet that Steelers jerseys

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Speaker 2: and Penguin sweaters and a couple soccer kits in there

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Speaker 2: as well, the USA and Germany and England and France

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Speaker 2: and a couple of My dad used to buy me

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Speaker 2: the soccer kits when he would go on tour when

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Speaker 2: I was younger. But yeah, spending your hard arm money

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Speaker 2: on a Shadore Sanders jersey, Hey, to each.

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Speaker 3: Their own, they do what you want.

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Speaker 2: But yes, it is a kind of weird time as

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Speaker 2: we're still trying to wrap up all the coaching stuff nationally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's all the assistant stuff coming.

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Speaker 2: In and then assist thy day.

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Speaker 3: There's little things all the time, all the time. Yes.

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Speaker 3: And with that, Matt, and real quickly you mentioned it

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Speaker 3: is a weird week, because it is a weird week

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Speaker 3: for me too, because any draft prep I basically do

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Speaker 3: before this week, I kind of look at it as like,

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Speaker 3: nice work, Matt, you did a little extra credit. You know,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to be there yet. You know, we

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Speaker 3: talk quarterbacks or whatever. And I always every year I

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Speaker 3: tell myself I'm gonna get moored out in during the season,

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Speaker 3: and it's always really hard to do. But this week

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Speaker 3: is when I like immediately feel behind, Like I start

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Speaker 3: digging into Senior Bowl stuff. I'm like, I know like

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Speaker 3: seven guys here, and by this by the kickoff a

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Speaker 3: Senior Bowl, I'll know seventy five percent of the player

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Speaker 3: yeah it's yes, yeah, yeah, And then after the game

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Speaker 3: I'll probably know ninety percent of them there in the game,

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Speaker 3: and by combine, I'll know all the top dudes something

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Speaker 3: about them, yes, picture yet.

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Speaker 2: And then by like the middle of March and of March,

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Speaker 2: we'll have real opinions on all these guys. It is.

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Speaker 3: It is a fun process, a change in gears for

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: It is starting to say the free agents that kind

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Speaker 2: You know, it's off season, it's off season, but there's

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Speaker 2: still some stuff going on there. You're kind of looking

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Speaker 2: ahead while still trying to put a bow on this thing.

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Speaker 3: And as long as I've done this, I don't remember

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Speaker 3: doing this a year when the Steelers made a coaching change.

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Speaker 2: Oh by the way, oh by the way, quite different

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Speaker 2: than what we usually have. So here's the latest. Again.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how long we're going to continue to

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Speaker 2: do this, probably until Mike McCarthy's staff is finalized, and

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Speaker 2: until because remember Matt, there's also still two head coaching

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Speaker 2: vacancies across the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Now, we think we have an idea who they are.

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Speaker 2: I was just I was just going to say, I

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Speaker 2: think we have an idea of who the Raiders and

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Speaker 2: until those things are officially official, there's still some uncertainty there, certainly,

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Speaker 2: But Matt.

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Speaker 3: You those two teams though, is all these good assistant

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Speaker 2: That's the that's the biggest thing for me too.

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Speaker 3: Of coaching cycles. A flawed process.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the answer is, but it's a

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Speaker 3: flawed process.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there will ever be a perfect

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Speaker 2: answer to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as you and I have talked about, it's I

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Speaker 2: think it's it is certainly much better than than the

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Speaker 2: coaching process in college football, but it is still far

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Speaker 2: from perfect. But you're right, that's the biggest thing. In

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Speaker 2: a lot of ways. You don't have the urgency to

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Speaker 2: hurry up and hire somebody in the NFL because there's

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Speaker 2: no transfer portal. There's I mean, you know, the combines

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Speaker 2: at the end of February, the drafts at the end

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Speaker 3: Free agency is what it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, guys have their contracts or they don't. You know,

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Speaker 2: they're either under contract or their free agents in terms

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Speaker 2: of your roster. But you're right, it's really the assistant

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Speaker 2: coaches staff. It's the staff that there's some sense of urgency,

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Speaker 2: that there's some you know, there's only so many, so

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Speaker 2: many lifeboats on the Titanic, and we want to try

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Speaker 2: and and get a seat.

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Speaker 3: Because so many people want someone from US Super Bowl team, rightfully, so,

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Speaker 3: but you gotta wait so much longer.

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Speaker 2: And then what if you don't get one, and then

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Speaker 2: they're kind of back to square one. So with all

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Speaker 2: of that a lot of moving parts, This is all fluid,

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Speaker 2: and Matt, I want to be clear before we start

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Speaker 2: discussing some names with the Steelers here. I want to

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Speaker 2: be crystal clear about this to everybody. Okay, to you,

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Speaker 2: to everybody in the audience, if you're watching on video,

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Speaker 2: if you're listening on podcasts, listening live on Steelers Nation Radio,

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Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, these are all reports. These

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Speaker 2: are reports, right, So all the names that we're about

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Speaker 2: to discuss for coordinators, for position coaches, all this stuff,

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Speaker 2: until it is officially announced by the Steelers on Steelers

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Speaker 2: dot Com on their social media accounts, these are all

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Speaker 2: still just reports. So I just wanted to be clear

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Speaker 3: So correct me if I'm wrong, and I feel very

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Speaker 3: strong about these reports are true, don't get me wrong. Absolutely,

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Speaker 3: that's why we're bringing it up. Absolutely like any rumor

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Speaker 2: It's not Joe Schmoe, you know, Steelers Nation six burg

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Speaker 2: on Twitter. Who's reporting these things?

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Speaker 3: It's good people? Yeah right, yes, So officially, is Mike

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Speaker 3: McCarthy the only coach on staff at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Other than the ones that they retained?

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Speaker 3: Okay, that those are official too. Okay, that's I wasn't well, So.

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Speaker 2: I guess it's a fair question by you, because I

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Speaker 2: don't know exactly how that works. But I would imagine

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Speaker 3: Because coaches usually signed a two year deal, I assume

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Speaker 3: they just stayed and you know, they weren't terminated.

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Speaker 2: To use Tom as an example, if he's got another

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Speaker 3: Already, he doesn't have to do anything, and it's.

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Speaker 2: Almost like you don't really have to make an official

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Speaker 3: He just, you know, keeps going to work every day.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, keeps showing up, same security badge, same parking spot,

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Speaker 3: So I would I'm not making fun of him by

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Speaker 3: any means. But the first day of the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 3: Carl Dunbar was on the field with the D Lineman.

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Speaker 2: As he always is, full Steeler.

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Speaker 3: Gear, and I I knew at the time when I

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Speaker 3: assume he did too at that point, but he probably

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Speaker 3: you know, Like it's kind of funny, Matt.

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Speaker 2: I think people would be shot.

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Speaker 3: There's no shame in getting fired as coaches. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the bellchecker, everyone gets. It's it's part of the nature

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Speaker 3: much of these these lifers that their wardrobe is made

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Speaker 3: or how much they give away and stuff too.

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Speaker 2: And this is obviously totally yeah, yeah, and this is

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Speaker 2: obviously different than a coach going to something like a

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Speaker 2: But it always cracks me up. How so many of

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Speaker 3: Oh, I've never been part of that.

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Speaker 2: They have like they might have like a little plastic

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Speaker 2: I'm like, where's all their stuff? But then I'm like,

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Speaker 2: they're just gonna They're just yeah, the equipment guys have it.

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Speaker 2: They're just going to grab a hoodie and sweatpants and

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Speaker 3: They're not players with their there's they're you know, a

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Speaker 2: It's hilarious to me how often I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 2: and like here comes a Carl Dunbar who's like just

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Speaker 2: holding like a giant eagle bag iPad with a with

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Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, we're going to you know, we're going

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Speaker 3: And you could do that. I mean, like that year

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Speaker 3: I'll never forget an eighteen wheelers showed up at the

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Speaker 3: I mean it was cleats, it was coaches shoes and

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Speaker 3: I think that happened twice a year. I think there's

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Speaker 3: like every every six months. I think Rebok was the

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Speaker 3: sponsor back then. Yep. And like if I would go

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Speaker 3: into WVU and they saw that I had scuffs on

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Speaker 3: my rebox sneakers, they'd be like.

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Speaker 2: Here, you want a pair.

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Speaker 3: They'd be like, don't wear those again. You smug a

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Speaker 3: lot of those or whatever. Get I don't know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't see them again, bright orange, ugly ass shoes.

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Speaker 2: You know, so good, it's so good.

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Speaker 3: They'd get like mad at you, and you come down

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Speaker 3: here when you get stuff on your shoes. We got

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Speaker 3: a million pairs anyone, you know.

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Speaker 2: The only time I've ever experienced anything about that. I

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Speaker 2: since twenty twenty. Two and SO i imagine those guys

438
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 2: would be for the same role for assistant offensive line matches.

439
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 2: Here but those are kind of the other two names

440
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,400
Speaker 2: that have been reported amongst that group in the last

441
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:45,880
Speaker 2: twenty four.

442
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,879
Speaker 3: Hours, Well evans is the finalist for The hall Of.

443
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 3: FAME i mean he he's a tremendous football. PLAYER i

444
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,320
Speaker 3: always got a kick out of camp When munchak was

445
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 3: THE o line. Coach there'd be a day where the

446
00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 3: ASSISTANT o line coach had to be in charge of

447
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,320
Speaker 3: the line and it'd be, like where's Coach. Bunch, yeah

448
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 3: he's at The hall Of. Fame these guys jacket on,

449
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 3: yeah and he's, like, oh that's. Cool it's an excuse, absence,

450
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 3: Right But evans is an all time great. GUARD i,

451
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,680
Speaker 3: mean he was a killer for The. SAINTS i don't

452
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 3: know how long he's been. Coaching maybe he's just starting

453
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 3: to get into. IT i don't. KNOW i, mean but

454
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 3: other than his playing, career WHAT i can say about

455
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,439
Speaker 3: both these guys lumped in TOGETHER i didn't Know evans

456
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,960
Speaker 3: was a finalist is both these teams have DRAFTED o

457
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 3: lineman heavy lately and high pedigree, guys much like The.

458
00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 3: Steelers that's Why i'm going with. This you, know like

459
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,879
Speaker 3: you look At. Dallas their first round pick this year Was,

460
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 3: booker their last the first round pick the year before

461
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 3: was geton the left. Tackle they have a second year.

462
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 3: Center so it's a lot like The steelers line in

463
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 3: terms of, young high pedigree. Dudes and The saints are

464
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 3: one of the few, teams just like The, steelers that

465
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,439
Speaker 3: went back to back years drafting first round tackles and

466
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 3: it's worked. OUT i, mean all these guys are been

467
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 3: basically hits, too and they're getting a lot out of, them.

468
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 2: Yeah one hundred. Percent so they've worked.

469
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 3: With high pedigree young.

470
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 2: Guys, yes it sounds like they're kind of putting out

471
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 2: interview requests for the ASSISTANT o line coaches at this.

472
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 2: Point SO i don't even know if calling them finalists is,

473
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 2: right is, proper but just maybe starting the feeling out,

474
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 2: process if you. Will but, Yeah Jarry evan started coaching

475
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two and has been with The saints.

476
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 2: Exclusively he was a coaching, intern then an offensive, assistant

477
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 2: then assistant offensive line. Coach former great, player, y'all without a,

478
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 2: doubt was A Super bowl champion there when The Drew

479
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 2: Brees Sean, payton four time first Team All, pro one strong,

480
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 2: case one time second Team All. Pro he was the

481
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 2: twenty Ten All Decade. Team, uh he was on the

482
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 2: Rook All Rookie team two thousand and, six his his rookie,

483
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 2: Year Saints hall Of, Fame saints Fiftieth Anniversary, team all that.

484
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 3: STUFF i, mean he's like The castro Or fanica, type, Right, Yeah.

485
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 2: Yes that's a that's a that's a very good. Example

486
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 2: so those are some of the other names that have just,

487
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 2: again this is all still in the in the reporting.

488
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 2: Stage i'm gonna continue to kind of drive that. Home

489
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: but we're just kind of sharing and kicking around the

490
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: latest news of the day and what we know at

491
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 2: this point in terms Of steelers reaching out to, People

492
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: steelers zeroing in on their ideal. Candidates it's they're all

493
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 2: at different stages a lot of these things. Are some

494
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 2: of them they've they've narrowed down and they're you, know

495
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 2: knocking on the. Door other ones they're still in that

496
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 2: kind of casting their wide net and starting to narrow that.

497
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 2: Field but That.

498
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 3: Steelers have officially signed the wide receiver coach though we

499
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 3: talked about. Yesterday so, AGAIN i or maybe it's not,

500
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 3: official BUT i, THOUGHT.

501
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: I i JUST i, yeah LIKE I i hesitate to

502
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 2: use the word, official you know WHAT i, mean until

503
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: it's like up On steelers dot, com WHICH i WHICH

504
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 2: i don't.

505
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 3: See right now you hit the coaching. Button but, yes but.

506
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 2: That sounds like it's been agreed, upon you.

507
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 3: Know via that one seemed pretty strong via the.

508
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 2: Reports, yes and Then matt a couple more, here uh

509
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 2: as it relates to the, offense not specifically the offensive,

510
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 2: line uh coaching, staff but the offense in. General according

511
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 2: To Jeremy, fowler who we've referenced, before formerly of this. Parish,

512
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 2: he's of, course the SENIOR nfl reporter FOR, espn The

513
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 2: steelers have notified The saints that they planned to Interview

514
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 2: Scott tolzan for offensive coordinator Under mike McCarthy got Tol

515
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 2: tolsan the Quarter tolzane played quarterback At Green bay Under mike.

516
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 3: McCarthy lifetime, backup turn coach type.

517
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: Guy there's so much which we like Those we like

518
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: those quarterbacks that you, know the the Fresh reichs and

519
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 2: The Kobi ax and all those guys back.

520
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 3: Up like A hall Of famer and around they see

521
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 3: a star in motion and they help kind of make

522
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 3: that guy into a, yes a great.

523
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: Player and according To, faller he's getting some attention because

524
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: people like what he did with With Tyler schuck this

525
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: year down In New.

526
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 3: Orleans that adds. UP i had heard his name plenty

527
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 3: over over the last several. DAYS i remember him as a.

528
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 3: Player he was not a super gifted you, Know john

529
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 3: L way. Type, Obviously he's a backup that was good

530
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: from the neck, up you, know and that type of,

531
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 3: guy good college, quarterback mid round, pick you, know the

532
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 3: typical future coach. Resume, yeah you, know.

533
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: Yes according To. Fowler, Also Patrick graham is In pittsburgh

534
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: today to interview for The steelers defensive. Coordinator jee that's.

535
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: ONE i did dug in heavy since we were.

536
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 2: Here, YES i have a feeling that potentially by the

537
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 2: time we're on air tomorrow that could be. Official if not,

538
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 2: TOMORROW i think certainly by next. Week but Again.

539
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 3: I'm kind of expecting it REPORTS i.

540
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 2: Am, Too but we all, know like sometimes someone else

541
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: comes in for an interview and blows you. Away sometimes

542
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: someone you would zero it in, on you're not overly

543
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: impressed with their interview and you maybe second guess. Things

544
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,360
Speaker 2: but it sounds Like Patrick graham, is to use A nascar,

545
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: term is in the pole. Position it sounds that way

546
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: a big. Way, Yeah and according To Jeremy, fowler he's

547
00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,360
Speaker 2: In pittsburgh today for his. Interview also sounds, like as

548
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: you kind of reference that The raiders are dialed in

549
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 2: On Clint kubiak and that could become official over the.

550
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 2: Weekend so, that's you, know again kind of the, uh

551
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 2: the move and in the shaking in the in the

552
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: coaching forefront of what we know of what we know

553
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: at this, time.

554
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: Should we dig into the decoordinator and what he? Brings?

555
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: SURE i think all. That, YEAH i think now's a good.

556
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 3: Time. ABSOLUTELY i put a lot of tweets out in

557
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 3: the last twenty four. HOURS i kind of did A

558
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 3: matt's stats on, him just a couple of key. AREAS

559
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: i wanted to see where The raiders ended. Up, SURE

560
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 3: i also put out a video and an article that Techn.

561
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: Gwynn remember we talked about. Him he covers the. RAATE

562
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 3: i didn't realize he covered The. Raiders he's a big

563
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: time film guy for the athletic and he's also doubt

564
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 3: his team is The, raiders you, KNOW i, mean you,

565
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 3: know like these. Guys and he did an in depth

566
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 3: article a year ago before the twenty twenty five season

567
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 3: about all his defensive, tendencies et. Cetera and it's really really.

568
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: GOOD i mean it's highly detailed. Stuff, now first, OFF

569
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 3: i think what's, obvious especially this past year is other Than,

570
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 3: CROSBY i don't know how many of their players would

571
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 3: even start for The steelers on, DEFENSE i think it's

572
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: the worst talented defense in the.

573
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: League and that to, me that stuff. Matters context, matters.

574
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: And he has consistently got more than what his talent gave.

575
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 3: Him it's.

576
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 2: Met there's a reason why everyone has been fawning Over

577
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: Kurt signety these last two, years, right, yeah, yeah because

578
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 2: he's doing it In, indiana Not Ohio. State Or alabama

579
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 2: Or texas Or, georgia like your environment, Matters.

580
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: Yes in a big. Way so he's made a respectable

581
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 3: defense In. VEGAS i, mean immediately'd be Like vegas the

582
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 3: worst team in the. League why are you going fishing? There, ye,

583
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: well they had the worst defensive talent in the. League

584
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 3: with one star who's slightly, declining and the advanced numbers

585
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 3: and a lot of the, numbers they end up being

586
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: a middle of the pack. Defense, NOW i wonder if

587
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,239
Speaker 3: you give them The steelers pedigree and they're you, know

588
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 3: investments on that side of the, ball which dwarf The.

589
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 3: RAIDERS i mean they have they have a lot of,

590
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 3: retreads AND i urge anyone to go to like our

591
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 3: lads dot com look at The raiders depth. Chart you'll be,

592
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 3: like that's who they're playing. WITH i never heard half

593
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: of these, guys or they're they're the guys that Were

594
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 3: Jamal adams that never worked, out or And Devin white

595
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: and guys like, that guysig guys that were big. Misses

596
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: so he got a ton during his Entire raider stint

597
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 3: out of bad. Talent and, AGAIN i have a lot

598
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: of tweets here that show a lot of this stuff

599
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: that really will make you a lot fonder of the.

600
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 3: Guy but he played At, yale you, know, dummy the

601
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: d lineman At, yale spent a lot of time With

602
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: belichick In New. England and it's funny to, me, like

603
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 3: we'll see all these defensive coordinators hired around the, league

604
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: AND i guarantee nine out of ten of them will

605
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: come to the podium the first. Time, yes So i'd

606
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 3: like to be really multiple on, defense AND i don't

607
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: want to be fixed to one scheme and then by

608
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: like week six they're fixed to one game because they

609
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: fall into. Ruts this guy is the epitome of. THAT

610
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: i mean he IS i think we mentioned yesterday he

611
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 3: is scheme agnostic to no. END i mean they played.

612
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 2: That's my real quick other than other Than wikipedia, SCOUTING

613
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 2: i think that's my.

614
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: Favorite like they played almost all zone this year because

615
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 3: their corners are just. JUNK i mean they're.

616
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: Junk they painted barn.

617
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: Reds, YES i mean he really is is adaptive as

618
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 3: a defensive coordinator THAT i can remember Since belichick and,

619
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 3: that AND i mean that year to, year week the

620
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 3: week in a good, way game plan the game plan

621
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: three four four three simulate pressures man's. Zone he is

622
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: not married to, anything and a couple of the Interviews

623
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: i've seen with, him that's the first thing he brings.

624
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: Up he's proud of, that you, Know he's, LIKE i

625
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: truly am not married to a scheme or something you

626
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: can win playing a lot of different defense this. Year

627
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 3: they had played with a lot of heavy boxes this,

628
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: year but they didn't allow hardly. Anybody they were great

629
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: with the explosive play rate allowed despite not having any good,

630
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: dudes you, know Like i'll pull up my. Time.

631
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah So raiders defense second in rush stuff rate as

632
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: well as second in yards per contact rate is terms

633
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: of the?

634
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: Game is zero or negatives at the line Of, yeah

635
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: and what was the other one that was that.

636
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 2: Second fours before contact per running back Run.

637
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: And they don't have big time run stuff. NOW i

638
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: mean like their their d tackles are more run stuffers than.

639
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: Penetrators but still it's they were a problem to run,

640
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: against especially at the point of.

641
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: Attack second LOWEST u package defensive usage in THE nfl

642
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: forty two percent of the, time.

643
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: Which is weird BECAUSE i think it was the year

644
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 3: before they led the league and playing Nickel, okay so

645
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: again he's just not married to. It their defensive back,

646
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: stinks so he didn't put any on the. Field so

647
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: they were in their base a ton because that's where

648
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 3: that's all we.

649
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: Had you, know we need we Need italian food this.

650
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: Weekend we Need french. Cuisine next weekend we're going we're

651
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: Going mexican south of the.

652
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 3: Border sometimes my guy opens the fridge and there's moldy

653
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: fruit and you know bread THAT'S i don't know IF i,

654
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: can and he makes a suitable meal out of. It

655
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: it's not, Gourmet BUT i, mean, yeah.

656
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: You reference the high zone because of. Necessity third lowest

657
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: percentage of percentage of man coverage amongst their secondary in

658
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: THE nfl last year under fifteen percent of the, time

659
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: just fourteen point six percent of the.

660
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: Time playing it's, safe don't allow explosives and stuff to.

661
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: Run that was their only.

662
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: Hope and speaking of, explosives if you listen To matt

663
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: AND i Said, july, YEAH i think if you've listened

664
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: to a lot Of steelers shows need more of them on,

665
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: offense need to give up less of them on. Defense

666
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 2: that's something we talked about at nauseum from the JET

667
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 2: i mean from The jets game From Jump street From week.

668
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: One that was something we talked. About only The vikings

669
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: had a lower explosive play late. Rate let me say that.

670
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: Again i'm getting little too excited about reading this too

671
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: fast at.

672
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: Really turn people on to Coach.

673
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: Graham only The vikings had a lower explosive play rate

674
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: allowed on defense than The raiders last. Year just four

675
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: point three percent of plays for The raiders defense were

676
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: classified as. Explosive remember that's a run of ten or more,

677
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: yards a pass of twenty or more yeards.

678
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 3: Exactly and that's what the league's really Really it's a

679
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: massive theme in the league right.

680
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: Now WHEN i don't know If i've ever had this

681
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: conversation with you, before when looking for, COACHES i want

682
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: one of two. THINGS i want The i'm trying to

683
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: think of what a good example. IS i want the

684
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: guy that takes a good team and comes in and starts,

685
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: winning LIKE i want The, AGAIN i don't even know

686
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: what the right example is off the top of my,

687
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: head BUT i think you're looking for a guy who

688
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: has proven, excellence if he could take a group and

689
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: lead them to.

690
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: The Promised, land Like parcels was that guy? Exactly as

691
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: soon as he walked in the, door they were.

692
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: Good exactly, right exactly, right, Yeah OR i want somebody

693
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: that has proven that they can squeeze every last ounce

694
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: of juice out of where they've. Been, again it gets

695
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: back to the you, know If signetti was doing what

696
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: he was doing At Ohio state Or, georgia everybody in

697
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: the country wouldn't be fawning over. Him, right it's because

698
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: he's doing it At. Indiana OR i want The kirby

699
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: smart coach At georgia who you, Know goes sing who

700
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: goes thirty two and two over two years and went

701
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 2: back to back national, championships right right.

702
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: Now that doesn't Mean signetti's a better coach Than. Sage, sure,

703
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: sure but it's. Harder, yes the standards are, lower you,

704
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: know BUT i mean but in terms of what which

705
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: path is easier to win the national, title it's say

706
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 3: obvious one hundred? Percent, yeah, yeah.

707
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: Yeah and so this guy has proven that in a

708
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: less than ideal situation he can still get you some.

709
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: Results that's Something i'm interested. IN i like a guy like.

710
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: THAT i am willing To, hey you've had success over

711
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: there with a bear, cupboard why don't you come over

712
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: here where we've got some Future hall Of famers and small,

713
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: pros and we've got guys Like Derek harmon And Joey

714
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: Porter junior And Nick herbig who were on the. Rise LIKE,

715
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: I i'm that's a. Flyer i'm willing to.

716
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 3: Take. YES i, mean, now what happens when you give

717
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,239
Speaker 3: him good, ingredients when you give him good? Players like

718
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 3: forget what the EXAMPLE i used on a different podcast

719
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 3: yesterday WHEN i was talking about him, WAS i thought

720
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 3: The raiders HAD d minus talent and got A c plus.

721
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 3: DEFENSE i think The steelers HAVE b TO b plus

722
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: talent and got A c plus.

723
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: Defense so if you could give, him you can give

724
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: HIM B b plus talent and he can give you

725
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 2: AN a minus. Defense now we're. Cooking, now we are cooking.

726
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: Exactly, now we're telling, Right and.

727
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: THAT i think is is what what they're looking at

728
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: when they identify him is as and.

729
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: He gives a lot more schematic. Advantages you'll you'll see

730
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: a lot more modern, stuff simulated pressures and. TWISTS i

731
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: mean a, lot LIKE i, LIKE i don't know how

732
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: much time we, have probably not a, Ton but here's

733
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 3: one thing people will get a kick out Of they

734
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: Treated Max crosby a lot like The steelers used to

735
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 3: Treat Troy paul malt, Where, okay this is the play,

736
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 3: call but you're so good at what you do. Freelance, yeah, yeah,

737
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: yeah the other ten will make up for. You there's

738
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: times where we're just gonna the play call Is, max

739
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 3: you just do whatever you feel like. Doing AND i

740
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 3: threw it out On, twitter LIKE i wonder if they'll

741
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 3: do that with what you, Know LIKE i there's no

742
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: way that everyone's gonna line up in the same spot

743
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: like they do, now there's no. Way i'll tell you

744
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 3: that what may still always end up going against the right,

745
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 3: tackle but that would be by his. Choice they might

746
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: Just troy paulam all of. Them, yeah, like go make.

747
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: Plays you're not in charge of THE b, gap but

748
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 3: you think the play's going THE b. GAP i trust

749
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: you you're that. Good that's kind of stuff they do

750
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: With crosby a, lot which is rare for a, front you,

751
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: know a defensive. Lineman pretty.

752
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: Intriguing it's very, intriguing and hopefully it becomes official here

753
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 2: and we'll HAVE i think a nice kind of snapshot

754
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: of what we're. Getting let's get to a break, here

755
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: we'll close down the first. Hour on the other, side

756
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: talk To Missy. Matthews an hour number, two we'll get

757
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: into some Some Senior bowl stuff and some free agent,

758
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 2: stuff a whole bunch more to touch on here on This.

759
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: Thursday it is The drive On Steelers Nation radio on

760
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 2: The Steelers Audio. Network your tune's.

761
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: About drive on your twenty four to seven home of

762
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: The black And. Goal Steelers Nation.

763
00:35:49,640 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: Radio closing down the first hour of The drive here

764
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: and we have a shorter segment before we get to

765
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 2: our Friend Missy matthews to kick off our number two

766
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: and matt something kind of caught my eye here THAT

767
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: i want to discuss with you all as we will

768
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: continue to bob and weave between coaching and staffing, News

769
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: Senior bowl, stuff free agency, stuff draft. Stuff it's a

770
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: it's a hot It's hodgepodge season here on the. Program.

771
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 2: Uh The athletic just posted a twenty twenty six mock.

772
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: Draft oh, okay the for the first? Round? Uh, Nick

773
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: Nick baumgarter And Scott, doctorman WHO i think are.

774
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 3: Two of the Other yeah, yeah, yeah like up and comer.

775
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: Up and comer. Guys, Yes so Not dane BECAUSE i

776
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: don't Think dane would have done. This, no and when

777
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: you see Where i'm going with, this So i'm looking through,

778
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: it and you, Know, Okay Fernando, mendoza rvel reach and

779
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: what you.

780
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: EXPECT i Think, greese it too is going to become

781
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: pretty chock. Too. Yeah and.

782
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: If you're The, jets it feels like that's a EASY

783
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: i mean, yeah like, that that to me feels like

784
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 2: a very low bust. Potential. Yes twenty second, overall they

785
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: Have Caden, proctor The bama tackle offensive, tackle going to The. Steelers,

786
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 2: really that would shock.

787
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: Me that would shock.

788
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: ME i, MEAN i know the uncertainty Around Roger jones

789
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: and all, that BUT i can't when you've invested so

790
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: much into that, position when you have what you have

791
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 2: at that, POSITION i. CAN'T i would be very surprised

792
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: if The steelers Went AND i Like, PROCTER i. DO

793
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: i think there's a lot to work with. Him BUT

794
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: i would be shocked if they have five wide receivers

795
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 2: going in the first. Round two after The steelers. PICK

796
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: i can't imagine them going offensive tackle in a situation like.

797
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 3: THAT i can't. Either there does the More i've dug

798
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: into the, draft there looks like there's going to be

799
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 3: a lot of tackles as usual going in the first.

800
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 3: Round it looks like there's a wealth of wide. RECEIVERS

801
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: i think wide receivers by far the bigger. Need tackles

802
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: are worth. MORE i get. That and rarely are you

803
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: going to have me saying don't take a. Tackle you

804
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 3: know WHAT i? Mean, absolutely you can Take. Procter he

805
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: could be your left guard right, now and then he's

806
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 3: your left tackle a year from. Now. Two so that's

807
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 3: Why i've said several TIMES i am absolutely taking in

808
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 3: offensive linemen in this, draft and probably, two and they're

809
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: non center. Onlies you, know sometimes there's center onlyies out.

810
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: THERE i don't want any of.

811
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: Those, yeah, yeah you, know but got Our Zach. Frasier we're.

812
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: Good, YEAH i, Mean Spencer anderson can get me have

813
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 3: a game if he's you know, whatever, absolutely or you,

814
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 3: know maybe a guard that has played, center, fine but

815
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: guard slash. Tackle i'd love to get a pure. Tackle

816
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: And i'd love to get something, else.

817
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: Maybe one with those top one hundred picks that we've talked.

818
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: About.

819
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: Fifth round or something. Too BUT i can't see it

820
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 3: being round one unless free agency goes a lot differently

821
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 3: than unless the makeup of the roster changes a ton

822
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: between now and round.

823
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: One he signed, good they signed, two.

824
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 3: And then you're like, yeah and then you'll take third

825
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: round Two like, okay, well you know quarterbacks firmed, up

826
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 3: you Signed willis or. Whatever you know that it's not

827
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: the craziest THING i ever, heard especially when you say

828
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: play mc guard for a.

829
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: Year but, yeah when you when you label it that,

830
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: WAY i guess it's not as shocking to. Me but

831
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: that's just that's the first. Time that's the first TIME

832
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 2: i think in one of these mock drafts THAT i

833
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: have seen The steelers not mocked to take a quarterback

834
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 2: or a wide. Receiver AND i know we're still very

835
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: early in this.

836
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 3: PROCESS i, KNOW i think it will be real. Choky

837
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 3: that wide receiver is going to be the call across. Mocks.

838
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 3: Now if you don't Sign pierre Or, samuel that could

839
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: be a first round. Corner and it looks like a

840
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 3: pretty good corner draft. Too it wouldn't blow me. Away

841
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 3: it would be almost at the offensive tackle. Level could

842
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: it be a, big powerful defensive? Tackle you, know if

843
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: things are shaping up at other positions and you're, like,

844
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: boy this guy's a difference maker, maybe But i'm with

845
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: you that would startle. Me like you, said there was

846
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 3: a couple of on the board, still.

847
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 2: So in this, scenario they had three wide receivers off the.

848
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: Board it's the three big names that if anyone is

849
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 2: familiar with this, process been following this, process the big

850
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: Three Carnel tait out Of Ohio, State Jordan tyson out

851
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: Of Arizona, state And Malachi lemon out of The university

852
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: Of Southern. CALIFORNIA i think those are going to be

853
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: barring something, unforeseen.

854
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: Any of those guys are available twenty One lemon.

855
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: Made they got all three of those guys going in

856
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: the top, thirteen so not even really close to twenty. One.

857
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah but then after The, Steelers Denzel, boston who's the

858
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: wide receiver From. WASHINGTON i like. Him and Then Casey

859
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: conception who Conceptci o who was The TEXAS a and

860
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: m guy who didn't have a crazy productive year for

861
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: a team that was in the top five all year

862
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 2: and you, know didn't lose OR i guess lost two

863
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Speaker 2: games at the very end of the season To texas

864
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Speaker 2: and then in the playoff To. Miami BUT i think

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Speaker 2: he's got a crazy athletic skill set and.

866
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Speaker 3: All he's going to test like. Crazy he's going to

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Speaker 3: be one of.

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Speaker 2: Those, yes he will be one of THE i think

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Speaker 2: at the end Of february Early, march when everyone's writing

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Speaker 2: their combine winners and losers, articles he'll be one of the.

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Speaker 2: Winners on, guys he's going to test really.

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Speaker 3: WELL i would bet he's a first round pick from

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Speaker 3: WHAT i know about him right.

874
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: NOW i think both of those guys our first round,

875
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Speaker 2: picks AND i would.

876
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: Be six or seven when it's all said and done, Too.

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Speaker 2: I'd be, INTERESTED i think in in one of those

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00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: guys BEFORE i would go with an offensive. Time and

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00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: but to your point, too if there's a guy there

880
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Speaker 2: that they think is so valuable in terms of their

881
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: big board and all that, stuff we know how that. Works.

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00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: Man they also they don't Have Jeremiah love going until

883
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: pick eighteen in in this in this, mock AND i

884
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Speaker 2: realize he's a running, back but maybe.

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Speaker 3: He might be the best. Pick he may be the

886
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: best player in the, draft would.

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Speaker 2: Be the best player in the. Draft so this is

888
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 2: still very early doors in terms of this whole, conversation

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Speaker 2: but that just kind of caught my, eye AND i,

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Speaker 2: thought since we have a shorter segment, here just would

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Speaker 2: bring it up to. You but, Yeah mendoza, one R

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Speaker 2: Vl reese, Two Francis, mayaga the tackle From miami, Three carnell.

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Speaker 3: A lot of tackles at three and, Four.

894
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Speaker 2: Carnell tate, Four Jordan tyson, five, which my, goodness if

895
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Speaker 2: you Paired Jordan tyson with, neighbors, okay The giants would be. Cooking,

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Speaker 2: Yeah Spencer faunu The utah tackles six to The, Browns David,

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Speaker 2: bailey The Texas tech edge seven to The, Commanders Caleb,

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Speaker 2: downs who we've talked a ton about, Eight Reuben Bain,

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Speaker 2: junior the The miami edge. Rusher nine to The. Chiefs

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Speaker 2: and then there's a run on edge rushers and corners and. Linebackers.

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00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah but, yeah that that that Was that was.

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Speaker 3: Interesting also really good off the ball linebacker. Class you

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Speaker 3: know what it, is it really. Is there could be

904
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Speaker 3: more first rounders than.

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Speaker 2: Usual they've got sunny. Styles The Ohio state guy going

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Speaker 2: twelve to the to The cowboys long he might not

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00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: even last that. Long and when you're getting drafted that

908
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: high as an off ball, linebacker you're you're doing things,

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Speaker 2: Right you're certainly doing things. Right hour in the, Books

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Speaker 2: another hour to. Go we will talk to The queen

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Speaker 2: of The, Sideline Missy, matthews to kick off our number.

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Speaker 2: Two when we Return West Schuler Matt. Williamson halfway. Home

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