1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: All right, second hour of Playing Buck kicks off with us. Now, 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: our friend Miranda Devine joins. She is the New York 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Post columnist extraordinaire, author Laptop from Hell, among others, and 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: pod Force one hosts. And Miranda has always great to 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: have you on. 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: The program, Great to be with you. I hope this 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 2: sounds okay. 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Oh, it's great, It's fantastic. So tell us this comber. 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: Let's start with this one. Comer's subpoenas for every attorney 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: general that I think anybody can name going back twenty years, 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: and also Hillary and Bill Clinton, all this stuff. Do 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: you think this goes somewhere? Clay and I, I don't 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: know if you heard any part of this, but we're 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: both skeptical. 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: But what do you think? What does this mean? What happens? 16 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: Look, I mean, there's a lot of people trying to 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 2: do a lot of things. So just setting Congress aside, 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: because I think we've seen, you know, through the bi 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 2: An administration, even when the Republicans did take the House, 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: for all their best efforts, it's pretty much a toothlus 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: tiger unless it's in the hands of someone very machiavellian 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: like Nancy Pelosi. Who manages to put people like Steve 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: Bannon and Petere Navarro in jail for contempt of Congress. 24 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: I don't know that the Republicans in Congress are quite 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: that ruthless yet, but certainly Donald Trump and his Justice 26 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: Department people, whether it be Pam Bondi or Cash Fattel 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: and then CIA director John Ratcliffe, backed up by Chuck Grasley, 28 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: the Senator who's been sort of the champion of transparency 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: and whistleblowers forever, they are determined, they mean business. And 30 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: I think that's backed by the fact that Donald Trump 31 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: has a different attitude this term to his first term. 32 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: He told me in an interview that he yes, he 33 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: did feel angry a bit about these new revelations that 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: Telsey Gabbitt has been tabling about the origins of the 35 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: Russia hopes, about how Obama directed his National security intelligence 36 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: people to concoct this intelligence that said that Putin favored 37 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 2: Trump and that's why he won the twenty sixteen election. 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: That wasn't true, and it was just a sort of 39 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: a decoy from Hillary Clinton's problems and trying to solve 40 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: Obama's ego because Donald Trump's victory was a repudiation of 41 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: his eight years. So all of that has made Donald 42 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: Trump more determined. And he said in his first term 43 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: he wanted to show mercy. He thought the country should heal. 44 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: Even though his rallies his supporters were saying lock her 45 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: up about Hillary Clinton, he figured, well, look, she's the 46 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: wife of a former president, he's a former secretary of statate. 47 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: I just don't want to go after her and cause 48 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: the country to be in turmoil and chaos. I just 49 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: want to concentrate on fixing the economy, etc. Well, then 50 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: in the ensuing eight years, look what happened to him. 51 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: They targeted him with you know, impeachments, the Russia hoax law, 52 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: fair assassination attempts, you name it. And he's still standing. 53 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: The American people saw through it all. He want a 54 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: comprehensive victory that they can't try and be legitimized like 55 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: they did in twenty sixteen. And now he wants accountability. 56 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: And he said so, and he's told all his people, 57 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: and I think his people want accountability. I mean Tulsi 58 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: gabbartt and Cash Betel both have been targeted by the 59 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: deep state by well in Telsy Gabbett's place allies of 60 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton who wanted to get their revenge on her 61 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: and put her on the Quiet Sky's program. You have 62 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 2: so many people within the Trump or that who were 63 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: targeted like he was and are victims of that deep 64 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: state and are tougher and stronger as a result. So 65 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: they are all on the same page. They want accountability 66 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 2: and not about retribution and vendettas. It is about a deterrence. 67 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 2: You can't trust these people not to do it again 68 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: to the next Republican or MAGA president because the last 69 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: time that Trump showed mercy, they just doubled down. So 70 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: never again, I think is the motto of the Trump administration. 71 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 4: We're talking to Miranda Devine, who was right on basically 72 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 4: everything over the years. Let me ask you a big 73 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 4: question here, Miranda. Let's pretend that Jeff Bezos called you. 74 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 4: Let's pretend that whoever is the Sulzburgers or whoever heck 75 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 4: runs the New York Times. Now, those two entities gave themselves, 76 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: through their friends in the media, Pulitzer Prizes, and I 77 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 4: think as a result of awarding what has been proven 78 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: to be legitimately untrue scoops that were given the highest 79 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: order of award that can happen. They just refuse to 80 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: acknowledge that everything they wrote about Russia collusion was wrong. 81 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 4: I think if you look up Buck and I talked 82 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 4: about this a little bit, is that Jason Blair back 83 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: in the day, The New York Times did a huge 84 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: front page story when they realized that he was a 85 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 4: fabulous that he had made everything up, and they said, 86 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 4: you know, we expect when we get things wrong, that 87 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 4: we acknowledged that we got things wrong. What should the 88 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 4: New York Times in the Washington Post do today? We 89 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 4: all know they screwed up for a decade. If you 90 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: were asked your best advice for those institutions based on 91 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: the false reporting that they did surrounding Russia and. 92 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: More, that's a really good example to you. The Jason 93 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: Blair example. Back in the day when these newspaper institutions 94 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: were regarded as being the sort of pinnacle of journalism 95 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: and everybody wanted to work there. Well, I mean, I 96 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: think they're too far gone. But you know, if they 97 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: wanted to try and clean house and make amends, they 98 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: ought to start by giving back those dirty Pulitzer prizes. 99 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: I mean, the Pulitzer Foundation ought to be rescinding them. 100 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: But unfortunately, I think, like the Nobel Prize, it's lost 101 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: any cachet since they produced it by giving it to 102 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: undeserving people. The Nobel Peace Prize, remember, went to Barack 103 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: Obama and he barely had his feet under the desk. 104 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: And you know Donald Trump, who did the Abraham Accords, 105 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,119 Speaker 2: it just was ignored. And the Pulitzers are the same. 106 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: So you start by giving back the Pulitzers, and then 107 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: you do a comprehensive investigation of what went wrong, and 108 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: you do front page mea culpers. Telsey Gavitt pointed out 109 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: that these organizations, you know, whether it be The Times, 110 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: The Post, the Washington Post, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, 111 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: they devoted something like two thousand minutes to the Russia hoax, 112 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: and so far they've devoted two minutes to collectively to 113 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: the revelations of the last two weeks that show that 114 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: this was you know, a total hoax, a plan, a 115 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: coup to bring down Donald Trump, to sabotage his presidency, 116 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: to delegitimize his election victory, and to sow discord with Russia. 117 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: And this was all Obama and Hillary Clinton, and they 118 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: sticked their you know, CIA director Brennan, FBI director Coney, 119 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: and James clapperty NSA guys. So all of that should 120 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: be gone into with you know, seven pie line extravaganzas 121 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: that they devoted to the original hoax and it ought 122 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: to be they should be in sackcloth and ashes, and 123 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: they should fire people. They should humiliate former editors who've 124 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: left for their so called leadership of that newsroom. I think, 125 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the only way that they could restore 126 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: their reputations. But unfortunately, the way they've curated their audiences, 127 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: I think they would lose subscriptions. I think their readers 128 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: would go ballistic because they don't want to know the truth. 129 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: They just stick their fingers in their ears and continue 130 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: on blively. You know, the Rachel matter is their patron 131 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: saint of journalism. 132 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: We're speaking of Moreenda Devine Podforce one isra podcast and Marenda. 133 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: I had the distinct honor and pleasure of getting to 134 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: a second with you on Will Kine Show a couple 135 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: of days ago, and. 136 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: You were fabulous, by the way, just throw that out there. 137 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely appreciated getting to hang out with you and with 138 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: Will It's like a great there's always a great time. 139 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: But we were talking about this grand jury component of 140 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: the Russia collusion. I guess now transparency effort that the 141 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: administration is going through. I know that it's early and 142 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: we don't really know, but what is your sense. Do 143 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: you think that the administration is preparing for the possibility, 144 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: at least politically, of indictments to come down against people 145 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: like Brennan and Clapper or is that just way too 146 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: far afield in your mind? 147 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: No, I absolutely think that's the case. I mean, they're 148 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: very smart prosecutors in the Department of Justice who are 149 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: looking at this being creative. Look how creative the Biden 150 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: Department of Justice was when they were coming after Donald 151 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 2: Trump and various other of his allies. So there are 152 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: multiple cause on the books, probably too many, and they 153 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: can be employed and deployed in various ways to certainly 154 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: bring charges against these coup lotters. And you know, at first, 155 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: John Ratcliffe, CIA director kicks the ball rolling, I think 156 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: at the beginning of July with that review of the 157 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: you know, the bogus intelligence assessment, and he was talking 158 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 2: then about perjury charges. And then you know, they've talked 159 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: that the statute of limitations will have run out twenty 160 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: five years. But then that that you know, certainly Brennan 161 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: and some of the others may have also allegedly purjured 162 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: themselves when they gave testimony to some of the Biden's 163 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: impeachment inquiries, and so which is more recent. So that 164 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: was then, and now I think the whole conversation has 165 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: moved on to looking at conspiracy charges. And as John 166 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: Ratcliffe said just on Sunday to Maria Bartiroma, that conspiracy 167 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: continued through to this day, through the Biden administration and 168 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 2: to this day. So I think, you know, they have 169 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 2: a lot of leeway there to look at tying up 170 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: a lot of people. And I'm hearing that there's more 171 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: than one grand jury that they're contemplating, and paneling in 172 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: Florida would be one, maybe in d C. Just ease 173 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: of access for documents, and I think it's going to 174 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 2: be a big issue, and why wouldn't it be. You know, 175 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: you have the immense power of the federal government Department 176 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: of Justice. You now have Tulsey Gabbard who's really relentless 177 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: in pushing through any deep state obstruction she's getting from 178 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: these agencies to get documents and she's just referring them 179 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 2: straight to the DOJ. So I think it's going to 180 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: be fruit for them. And as we've heard, I mean 181 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: James Clapperson himself, he's lawyering up. Jonathan Turley says that 182 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: all of DC is lawyering up, and the lawyers are 183 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: more than busy, and some of them are having to 184 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: lawyer up themselves. I think it's good. 185 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: And you know you're in a tough spot, Miranda, when 186 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 4: your lawyer wants to get his own lawyer, that's all 187 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: I always say. Well, that's a tough spot. Let me 188 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 4: ask you this quickly on the way out. I would 189 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 4: say the number one concern of our audience is, we've 190 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: heard all this. It's a lot of you know, flapping 191 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 4: of the gums, so to speak, a lot of talk. 192 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 4: It has never actually led to anybody being charged with crimes, 193 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: not even talking about convictions. What do you think the 194 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 4: chances are that there are people indicted for crimes and 195 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 4: that there is in some way at least that or 196 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 4: an arrest for crimes. If you were setting odds more 197 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: or less likely than fifty percent. 198 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: I'd say more. And in part that's because exactly as 199 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: you say, we're all cynical, we're all fed up. The 200 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: boy has cried wolf a million times and nothing's ever happened. 201 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: And so I think that that actually is an issue 202 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: for Donald Trump with the loyalty of his base, because 203 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 2: they're sick of promises, they're sick of being led down 204 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: the garden path, and nobody ever is brought to account. 205 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: And therefore the deep state, the bad guys, the wrongdoers, 206 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 2: whatever you call them, the coup lotters, they just get 207 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: more and more emboldened. And it's very dangerous for the Republic. 208 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: It goes beyond Donald Trump. It goes to, you know, 209 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 2: the very survival of this country that you cannot have 210 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 2: this two tier system of justice where one side gets 211 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: just killed for the most minor issue and the other 212 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: side gets away with murder. Literally. 213 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: Rand, appreciate you being with us. 214 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: Thank you as always, Thank you great to talk to you, boy. 215 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: Uncertainty in the world causes all kinds of reactions, and 216 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, right now things are looking up to Trump economy, 217 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: but as you know, systemic long term things like the 218 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: debt and what's going to happen if rates aren't dropped 219 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: this fall, things can turn in a hurry. You need 220 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: to take action for yourself. Trump's taken action for three 221 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million Americans. 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I gotta say Miranda saying she 248 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 4: thinks there's a greater than fifty percent chance that there 249 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 4: are going to be arrests surrounding the lies that we're told, 250 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: I would take of anybody out there in media who 251 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 4: has been willing to take slings and arrows, particularly if 252 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 4: you work at a newspaper. I'm not sure that Miranda 253 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: took more than anybody in media for what she wrote 254 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: about the hunter byden laptop, all the work that she 255 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 4: did on all of that, And to me, for her 256 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 4: to say she expects for there to be consequences is 257 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 4: a prediction that I would pay attention to. So I 258 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 4: remain skeptical. I think you remain skeptical that there will 259 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 4: actually be charges brought. But her saying there might be 260 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 4: multiple grand juries is interesting because I said, to me, 261 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 4: linking all of this to one crime is very difficult, 262 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 4: I think, but then you're kind of doubling your odds. 263 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: Maybe you get shot down in DC, but you could, 264 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 4: I think, maybe get some indictments in Florida. 265 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: Maybe we've seen the right learn something from the approach 266 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: that the Democrats took of for criminal prosecutions for hand 267 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: picked jurisdictions, or they didn't pick the Florida jurisdictions very well. 268 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: I think they just that was just an extra shot 269 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: on goal for them. But yeah, what's the old phrase, Clay, 270 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: what's good for the goose is good for the gander. 271 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: That Yeah, I think that's increasingly. I said it on 272 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: the show yesterday. I guess that a lot of people 273 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: want an eye for an eye approach. The Democrats with 274 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: the legal system and the weaponization of law, I get it. 275 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's if it's within the scope of the law, 276 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: or you can make the case, maybe you give it 277 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: a shot, put it to a jury. 278 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 4: Well, I think a lot of people would just even 279 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 4: if they don't get the conviction, getting the grand jury 280 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 4: indictment I think for a lot of people would be 281 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: validation in some way because they get the arrest. You 282 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 4: have to post bail. Eventually, you have to either plead 283 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 4: guilty to a lesser crime, or you have your trial. 284 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 4: I think indictments from a grand jury would be seen 285 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: by many people as a validation of the lies that 286 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 4: you had to swim through for so many years. And 287 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 4: Miranda thinks that's more likely than not. I hope she's right. 288 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: Me too. 289 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you know, glad, we didn't have a huge 290 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: bet on this one. 291 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 3: All right? 292 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: How often does how often does your office have fire drills? 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Get 310 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: some calls, talkbacks, and all of the latest going on 311 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,719 Speaker 1: in the news. This is interesting to me, Clay Well, 312 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: First of all, Trump, as you know, guys, we all 313 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: talk here about a great American coffee company, Crockett Coffee. 314 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: And if you go to Crocket Coffee dot com you 315 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: can subscribe. You can become a part of this great 316 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: American brand that we are building. And we appreciate so 317 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: many of you have You're like, why should I buck Well, 318 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: First of all, ten percent of the profits goes the Tunel, 319 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: the Towers Foundation, an incredible cause. 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We have though, said that 329 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: it is perhaps it is perhaps an interesting brand situation, 330 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: as the most famous person of the name Crockett is 331 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: currently a Democrat member of Congress, Congresswoman Crockets, and has 332 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: nothing to do with Crocket Coffee, obviously nothing to do 333 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: with our company. But she got some attention from President 334 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: Trump yesterday. In the broader context of who is running 335 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: the show at the Democrat Party. Wanted you to hear 336 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: this one play cut one. 337 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 6: Democrat Party is self destructing. I mean, when you have 338 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 6: low IQ people like Crockett, I wonder if she's in 339 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 6: a relation to ship to the late great Davy Crockett, 340 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 6: who is a great, great, great gentleman. I wonder if 341 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 6: she's got a relationship to Davy Crockett, the great old 342 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 6: Davy Crockett. But you have this woman Crockett. She's a 343 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 6: very low IQ person. Somebody said the other day she's 344 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 6: one of the leaders of the party. I think you 345 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 6: gotta be kidding. The Democrats are lost. They have Trump 346 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 6: derangement syndrome so bad that they can't walk, they can't go, 347 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 6: they don't know where they're going. Humor is finished watched 348 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 6: the other day. He's lost all of his confidence. 349 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 3: What are you making a clay? 350 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 4: I think, first of all, it's very funny, and Davy 351 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 4: Crockett is an American icon, American original, and Jasmine Crockett 352 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 4: is an American moron. But I think what Trump has 353 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 4: hit on is really actually a very important part here 354 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 4: of the struggles that Democrats have had since his election. 355 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 4: No one is the chief spokesperson for the party, and 356 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 4: we told you this. Whatever you think about Nancy Pelosi, 357 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 4: I think Nancy Pelosi was smart and diabolical when it 358 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 4: came to managing and advancing the political agenda that she 359 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 4: believed in the most, and she got when she was 360 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 4: the Speaker of the House, she had everybody lined up 361 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 4: behind her. She could snap her fingers and everybody moved 362 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 4: in the direction she wanted to them to go. 363 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 3: Buy in Mars. 364 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 4: It's a very impressive leadership. Hakeem Jeffries, I mean, I 365 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 4: don't even think Kakeem Jeffries responds well to question when 366 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 4: he is talking. 367 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 3: You mentioned JB. Pritzker earlier. 368 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 4: I think there are a lot of Democrat governors with 369 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 4: fundamental flaws which limit their overall nationwide appeal. So whether 370 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 4: it's Gavin Newsom, whether it's JB. Pritzker, whether it's Josh Shapiro, 371 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 4: whether it's Andy Basheer, whether it's Wes Moore, who Gretchen Whitmer, 372 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 4: whomever you want to point towards and say, oh, this 373 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 4: person has been a great governor. They're going to be 374 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 4: the future of the Democrat Party. Bernie's too old. I 375 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 4: actually think the more and more I've thought about this, 376 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 4: and it's embarrassing how much time I sit around thinking 377 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 4: about things like this, I actually think AOC is the 378 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 4: face of the party. And I'm not saying that because 379 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: I think that AOC is a brilliant tactical politician or 380 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 4: anything else. I think she has the ability to get attention, 381 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 4: and I think she has the ability to dictate conversation 382 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 4: in some way. Doesn't mean that I think she's going 383 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 4: to be elected president or anything else. I'm cure if 384 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 4: you would sign off on that right now, if I 385 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 4: had to pick one person that is the face. I mean, 386 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 4: there are lots of people who want to be it, right, 387 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom is trying to do everything he can to 388 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 4: be the face of the Democrat Party. But I actually 389 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 4: think it's AOC. I think AOC if I were pointing 390 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 4: to somebody. She's young, she's a minority, she is adept 391 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 4: on social media when so many Democrats are unable to 392 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 4: do anything. I do not think she's particularly smart. I 393 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 4: do not think that she is particularly skilled at communication. 394 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 4: But I do think of all the Democrats, she's number 395 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 4: one on the list of who is the person that 396 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 4: I think of who is most likely to be the 397 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 4: face if you're taking away people like Bernie. 398 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: I said that right after this last election, and I 399 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: still I think I was saying that in January of 400 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: this past year, and I still stick with it. Clay, 401 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: You know, there's there's a to me. The question is more, 402 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: is it AOC top of the ticket. And then somebody 403 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: like A who's that? Who's that Democrat in your in 404 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: your no in Kentucky and Kentucky Sorry, who's the Democrats? 405 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 3: Bashir? Yeah, somebody like that. 406 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: The idea is, oh, we've got another. We got a 407 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: more normal, sort of down the middle democrat there too, 408 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: so people will believe it more when AOC says I'm 409 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: not really a communist, or is it the other way around. 410 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: AOC is more the vice president, you know, to make 411 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: the base happy, and then you've got somebody who's more 412 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: like a Biden, who's just an empty suit to allow 413 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: the communist policies to go through. But I think that's 414 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: the only way they can do it. Remember, Democrats can 415 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: only win national elections by pretending they aren't really democrats 416 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: when the whole country is voting. That's the only way 417 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: they can pull it off. They have to pretend they're 418 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: less democrat or less left wing than they actually are. 419 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: It's a fool you game. 420 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 4: The one thing I don't know about AOC, and I'd 421 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 4: be curious how you would analyze this is Kamala win. 422 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 4: She had to talk fell apart, and that's not a 423 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 4: good thing for democrat politician or a Republican politician, because 424 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 4: basically your job is to talk. And I wonder if 425 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 4: AOC faces real pushback. We've never really seen her on 426 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 4: a debate stage. We've never seen her prove that she 427 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 4: has the ability to translate whatever message she has to 428 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 4: a larger scale. She's fine when she's on a prompter, 429 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 4: she's fine when she's at a rally and she knows 430 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 4: what she's going to say. But when you get into 431 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 4: those debates, this is where Trump excelled. And I always 432 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 4: love the quote everybody has a plan till they get 433 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 4: punched in the face, the Mike Tyson famous quote. A 434 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 4: lot of people don't perform that well in that debate universe, 435 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 4: in the basically sort of royal rumble that becomes an 436 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: American presidential campaign, the primary more so than the actual general, 437 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 4: because if you're the general nominee, it's just one v 438 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 4: one the royal rumble style primary debates, anything can happen. 439 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: You know. 440 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 4: I don't know if she has that next level, next gear. 441 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 4: But I can look at JB. Pritzker and say he's 442 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 4: two flawed. I can look at I actually think he's 443 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 4: made awful decisions. I think Gavin Newsom has I don't 444 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 4: think California Democrats are gonna play well. Josh Shapiro, to me, 445 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 4: is the no brainer choice. But evidently he's not considerable 446 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 4: by a large portion of the Democrat base because he's Jewish. 447 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 4: Mayor Pete I think is out of the race because 448 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 4: he's gay. You know, you can start to just kind 449 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 4: of x people out, and what I get left with 450 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 4: is kamala versus kamala versus AOC like that. 451 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: That's kind of where I see you. 452 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: Know you you were, you were cruising along there and 453 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: you were doing a great time on your lap and 454 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: then you blew a tire clay and you spun out 455 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: and you just went about one hundred and eighty miles 456 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: an hour into the barrier. 457 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. 458 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened there at the end you 459 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: were about to get way through with a checkered flag. 460 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: I just I don't. 461 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 4: Andy Basheer is a total woss And I feel bad 462 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 4: like kind of taking a two by a forwarded this guy. 463 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 4: But he is every loser fraternity chair that nobody in 464 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 4: the fraternity actually respects. But he's like the secretary of 465 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 4: the fraternity. Do you hear what I'm talking about? Like yes, no, Like, 466 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 4: if you're actually in the fraternity to have fun, you 467 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 4: don't want the responsibility of being the president or the 468 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 4: vice president or the treasurer of the like Andy Basheer 469 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 4: is the treasurer of the fraternity. He got in because 470 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 4: his dad was a member of the fraternity. He walks 471 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 4: around in He's penny loafers and his polo. 472 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: Oh hey, nothing wrong with penny loafers and polos, sir. 473 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, he's the guy who's like, are you 474 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 4: sure we need that many kegs? You know, everybody's like, 475 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 4: could be a loser. Dude like that is Andy Basheer. 476 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 4: So I have I understand that there are tons of 477 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 4: losers in the Democrat Party, but even for Democrats, I 478 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 4: think they're going to look at Andy Basheer. I'm actually 479 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 4: I think electing Andy Basheer twice is one of the 480 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 4: most shameful things that's ever been done in the history 481 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,239 Speaker 4: of the state of Like, I'm sorry, Kentucky. And so 482 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 4: this guy is such a limp, limp wristed loser. I mean, 483 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 4: did you see his Vogue photo shoot? I mean, come on, 484 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 4: a Vogue photo shoot. That's how you're gonna launch yourself 485 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 4: on the national stage. He shut down churches. He wouldn't 486 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 4: let you guys even play basketball for goodness sakes during 487 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,479 Speaker 4: COVID because he thought it was too dangerous. I just 488 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 4: I look at this guy and I just think he's 489 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 4: a clown. But I think you can do this for 490 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 4: a lot of these guys. I think Josh Shapiro is 491 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 4: actually fairly smart. Unfortunately for him, in the modern Democrat Party, 492 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 4: you may not be elected in a primary being Jewish. 493 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 4: I've said it before, and I hate to say it, 494 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 4: but it is true. 495 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 3: JB. 496 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 4: Pritzker is just too fat. I mean, we're never going 497 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 4: to I don't think do you agree with me on this? 498 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 4: We're never going to elect a morbidly obese president. I 499 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 4: know fat taft got it back in the day that 500 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 4: was pre television. I just think it's not like Chris 501 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 4: Christy same way, like it's not gonna work in a 502 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 4: television age. Am I wrong on this? Or do you 503 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 4: sign off? There is a level of shell be no 504 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 4: that you just can't come overcome. 505 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: He could just start slapping some peptides and he dropped 506 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: that weight in a in a hot second, though, so 507 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: maybe that change. Maybe yeah, But if you see him 508 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden and he'll start telling everybody, I'm 509 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: just eating chicken breast and getting in more steps. But 510 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: if you see him drop one hundred and fifty pounds. 511 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: He's running for president for sure. 512 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 4: Well, I think he's going to run no matter what. 513 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 4: But I think he'll look like Al Sharpton and Al 514 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 4: Roker did. When you drop like one hundred and fifty pounds, 515 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 4: the skin is still there and you look like you 516 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 4: know that training, you got to keep that lean muscle 517 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 4: mass while you're dropping those LB's very very important. Otherwise 518 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 4: you look like you look like you're just evaporating, which 519 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 4: is not a good thing. But I think this is 520 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 4: the challenge that Trump was kind of getting at, and 521 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 4: I think he gets to the essence of issues very frequently, 522 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 4: which is there's a void of leadership. And unfortunately for Democrats, 523 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 4: morons like Jasmine Crockett, who are very outspoken have stepped 524 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 4: into that void. And the faces of the Democrat Party, 525 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 4: and there are multiple, most of them do not appeal 526 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 4: to anyone with a functional brain who is persuadable to 527 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 4: vote for either a Democrat or a Republican. And I 528 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: think that's the challenge they find themselves in, is it's 529 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 4: not going to be an easy way to get out 530 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 4: of that rut, which is why I was talking about 531 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 4: this on the start of the show. 532 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 3: So why I'm stunned. 533 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 4: That there isn't Ram Emmanuel has tried to do it, 534 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 4: that there hasn't been more of an attack on the 535 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 4: left yet. Gavin Newsom tried to do it. You got 536 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 4: to have your Sister Soldia moment where you're like, hey, 537 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 4: like Bill Clinton tried to do. Hey, I'm a Democrat, 538 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 4: but I'm not crazy, and you have to actually start 539 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 4: to attack people inside of your own party. Maybe that's 540 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 4: going to happen in the future. Nobody's been willing to 541 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 4: do it yet. 542 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: Just a note on some breaking news actually was occurring 543 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: this morning, but we're getting more live updates on it. 544 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: Our team is monitoring very closely everything that's coming out 545 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: of this. The Fort Stewart Army Base shooting. This is 546 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: in southeast Georgia. Was locked down. Five people at the 547 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: Fort Stewart Army Base we're shot this morning. So this 548 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: was the shooter shot. The shot members of the second 549 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: Armored Brigade Combat Team area of the base. So this 550 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: is forty miles to the southwest of Savannah, and this. 551 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 3: Is we have. 552 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: We don't have anything other than five people were shot. 553 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: The base was locked down, and we're the President has 554 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: been briefed on it. Secretary Nome has been briefed on it, 555 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: and we're monitoring this for additional information. But right now 556 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: that's what we got. But we are because some people 557 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,239 Speaker 1: have been weighing in saying, hey, are you guys seeing this? 558 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: We we're watching it and the shooters in custody. Team 559 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: has got that for us. But as as to motives 560 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: as to status of those who have been shot, my 561 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: understanding is, you know, the incident is over, but if 562 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: we have any more further rather you know, it's it's 563 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: all clear on the base now, there's no more lockdown. 564 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: We'll have updates for you on this as they come. 565 00:31:54,760 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 4: In no doubt, and some reports out there, Fox News 566 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 4: reported I even hate diving into this because these new 567 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 4: stories are breaking and we don't want to be wrong 568 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 4: about them, but that there does not appear to be 569 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 4: any fatalities. So that is what Fox News has put 570 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 4: out at least one of their reporters on the shooting 571 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 4: related incident. The shooter, like you said, is in custody. Look, 572 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 4: we'll come back, we'll break down more of this, continue 573 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 4: to update you as we roll through the program, But 574 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 4: I have to tell you right now, violence continues to 575 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 4: pour in all over Israel, and as a result, they 576 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 4: are trying to build bomb shelters to protect everyone. And 577 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 4: if you are in Israel, you have spent much of 578 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 4: the past two years, unfortunately having to run for air 579 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 4: raid sirens into the bomb shelters. And I've said it before, 580 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 4: and I've said it and continue. 581 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: To repeat it. 582 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 4: If Israel laid down weapons today, it wouldn't exist within 583 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 4: a few weeks. If the rest of the Middle East 584 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 4: would put down their weapons, there would be peace in 585 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 4: the Middle East. And you saw that on October seventh. 586 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 4: Now's your time to stand with Israel and they're hoped 587 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 4: for peaceful future. You can call eight eight eight four 588 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 4: eight eight I f CJ. That's eight eight eight four 589 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 4: eight eight I f CJ to make your donation to 590 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 4: build bomb shelters. Or you can go online to IFCJ 591 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 4: dot org. That's IFCJ dot org. 592 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 5: News and politics, but also a little comic relief. Clay 593 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 5: Travis at buck Sexton find them on the free iHeartRadio 594 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 5: app or wherever you get your podcasts. 595 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Uh Dean 596 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 4: from South Florida. H juays in what's Dean got for us? 597 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,239 Speaker 3: Funt all right? 598 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: I say that made my headspan is you know Animasher's week, 599 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: he's olympres prit skurr is obs you know, do nothing. 600 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 3: Then you've got you know newsgum. 601 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: Well they all got elected somehow. 602 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 3: I mean, who is voting for the idiots? 603 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 4: This is a question that I'm sure many of you 604 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 4: sit around thinking about a great deal. I do not think, 605 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 4: and we've talked about this a lot, I do not 606 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 4: think we are represented by the best possible candidates. I 607 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 4: think a lot of people who are successful in life 608 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 4: say it's not worth getting into the mess of running 609 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 4: for political office. 610 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 3: The easy answer is JB. 611 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 4: Pritzker is a billionaire, and Andy Basheer's daddy was governor 612 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 4: of Kentucky, and lots of people. If you have billions 613 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 4: of dollars to spend, you're gonna get elected. 614 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 3: That's the reality. 615 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 4: And if your daddy was governor, you have a really 616 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 4: good chance of getting elected too. Ultimately, it falls on voters, 617 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 4: and voters sit and watch television ads and they get 618 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 4: influenced by them while claiming they aren't, and if they 619 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 4: know a name, they'll show up and vote for the 620 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 4: same name. 621 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 3: Again. 622 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 4: This is why dynasties and politics happen, because a lot 623 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 4: of people liked Andy Basheer's daddy, and so they've decided 624 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 4: to vote for the treasurer of the fraternity UH to 625 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 4: continue to be representing the state. To me, Kentucky's an 626 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 4: embarrassment because Bashier has been an awful governor and they 627 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 4: rubber stamped him to return. That's the part that I 628 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 4: would say is UH is disappointing. Jamie Pritzker just bought 629 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 4: the governor's race in in Illinois. I mean, he's a 630 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 4: billionaire kid. He just can pay whatever he needs to 631 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 4: be able to get elected. I mean, I think that's 632 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 4: the answer. 633 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. Not not impressive. Not impressive people at all. So 634 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: there's that, and that's unfortunately the case. 635 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 3: UH. 636 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: Paul and Huntington Beach. 637 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 3: What's going on, Paul? 638 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 6: How you doing? 639 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 2: Guys? 640 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 3: We're good? Hey. 641 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 6: I want to know, UH, what are you guys going 642 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 6: to get your coffee into costco? 643 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 4: Well, that would be thank you for the call. That 644 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 4: would be a help move if we could get there. 645 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 4: And right now we are going straight direct to consumer 646 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 4: and thousands and thousands of you have signed up. You're 647 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 4: even starting to hear the ads elsewhere. That would probably 648 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 4: take a few years, I mean candidly, because you have 649 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 4: to be able to produce direct to consumer products at 650 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 4: a massive scale to be able to get into Costco. 651 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 4: I'm not sure, frankly, whether Costco would like the politics 652 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 4: of Davy Crockett. They tend to be a left wing 653 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 4: organization of a company like ours that believes in American exceptionalism. 654 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 4: But we'll see, Buck, you're about to bounce, you're going 655 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 4: to be. I don't know if you told people where 656 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 4: you're gonna be the next few days or is that 657 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 4: a top secret. 658 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 3: I don't want to blow blow things away. I'm heading 659 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 3: to the mountains of North Carolina. 660 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: So if you see a guy with poofy hair, a 661 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: beautiful wife, and a really cute baby and a stroller, 662 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 1: come say hi. 663 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 3: It's me