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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zeguray.

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Speaker 2: Let's live on a first Friday miracle edition of the program.

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Speaker 2: Merely bow the Great Z. The Great Z is back.

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Speaker 2: He's better than ever thrived, not survived, thrived, my friend.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you, brother, thank you, Great to see you.

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Speaker 3: Great to see everybody.

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Speaker 2: It was for those who maybe missed yesterday's program. Yesterday

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Speaker 2: was Z's big day. Summer Z continued and you lived

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Speaker 2: a childhood dream and you flew with the Blue Angels.

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Speaker 2: That's right, I most certainly did.

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Speaker 3: And the Cleveland Air Show is this weekend Saturday, Saturday Monday.

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Speaker 2: I could not recommend it more.

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Speaker 3: I think you will have an incredible time and see

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Speaker 3: some just mind bogglingly amazing.

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Speaker 2: Things, planes maneuvers. I didn't have a point when we

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Speaker 2: went a couple of years ago and the Great Previts

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Speaker 2: invited us, and years ago Modes did and I was

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Speaker 2: up at the lake and wasn't able to get there.

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Speaker 2: But so so gracious bee able to take it. I'd

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Speaker 2: never been to an air show. Okay, I grew up

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Speaker 2: going You mentioned that you and I mentioned that you.

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Speaker 2: You grew up growing to air shows. I had no

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Speaker 2: point of reference on what I would see. I had

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Speaker 2: no point of reference on any of it, and so

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Speaker 2: my expectations were pretty minimal. I had no idea. And

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Speaker 2: then you got there and you went, oh my god, Like,

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Speaker 2: these guys are the headliners at the end, and they're

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Speaker 2: worth all of it. But the stuff leading up is

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Speaker 2: great too. Absolutely, it's all really cool. You can walk

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Speaker 2: in these these giant warships and in these planes. It's awesome.

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Speaker 2: It couldn't be cooler. I highly recommend it.

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Speaker 3: The Blue Angel show itself is about forty five minutes,

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Speaker 3: so you will get NonStop insane action.

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Speaker 2: The diamond pattern. This is towards the end of the season.

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Speaker 3: They're going to be at twelve inches from each other.

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Speaker 3: Four planes all within twelve inches of each other. Think

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Speaker 3: about that. Just think about that. It's completely insane. And

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Speaker 3: the two soloists. So yesterday I got to fly in

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Speaker 3: the number seven Blue Angel. Lieutenant Connor O'Donnell buddy call

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Speaker 3: sign Buddy A big fan of Buddy the Elf.

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Speaker 3: We as soon as I got in, I go smiling.

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Speaker 3: Smile is my favorite. He loved it. We were fast friends.

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Speaker 3: He was my pilot. He will be the narrator at

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Speaker 3: the air show if you go see them. He's the

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Speaker 3: one that kind of describes everything that's going to be happening. Uh,

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Speaker 3: it was. I'm glad. I did a couple of things.

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Speaker 3: I took everything they said about what you should eat

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Speaker 3: getting hydrated very seriously. I you know how much I

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Speaker 3: have a great affection for wine. I did not have

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Speaker 2: The night before.

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Speaker 3: I was just full on in hydration mode. And the

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Speaker 3: would have blacked out if you had a glass of wine.

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Speaker 3: The NFE for He's like, I'm sure of it. He said,

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Speaker 3: wine and gees don't mix. They don't mix, so wine

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Speaker 2: So we went in there.

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Speaker 3: And the they do my ride, and then there was

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Speaker 3: And we got in there and she was super nervous,

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Speaker 3: So you basically when you're when you're feeling the gees,

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Speaker 3: After he's like, so we pushed it, and he's like,

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Speaker 3: you know, seven five.

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Speaker 2: So safe. Oh, he's very good to know after Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna pull us seven three. The plane can only

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Speaker 2: handle seven five, but we'll be fine, you know.

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Speaker 3: Modes is Modes's son is an elite elite fighter pilot

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Speaker 3: in the Air Force, and we were talking about it,

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Speaker 3: the most gratifying one, uh, because he had texted me

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Speaker 3: before he had most and he was like, dude, you

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Speaker 2: We're headed to the sunset here, boys come on.

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Speaker 3: So he goes, how did G's feel any light loss?

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Speaker 3: I sent him the video, I said, I tried to

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Speaker 3: at one point. So what happens when the gravity forces

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Speaker 2: Into your feet? That's what That's what the g forces do.

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Speaker 3: And at one point in the end of the seven

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Speaker 3: It was it was just so cool. But so Zach said,

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Speaker 3: he said, I'm a certified, certified bad beep. He said,

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Speaker 3: how many people can say they've pulled seven three?

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Speaker 2: Not many?

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Speaker 3: I said, I don't know how many. Happy to be

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Speaker 3: it was so cool. I think that the the power

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Speaker 3: We did it all baby, I mean it was. It

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Speaker 3: was unreal and Lieutenant Connor O'Donnell is just everything you

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Speaker 3: would want, completely right out of central casting for what

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Speaker 2: I think the when you and I were talking yesterday

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Speaker 3: And I asked him he never passed out in the centrifuge.

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Speaker 3: I'm back there sounding like I don't even know what. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I'd be like, yes, sir, and then he'd be like, ready.

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Speaker 2: Hit it.

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Speaker 3: And so once he starts saying ready, that's when you

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Speaker 2: We're banking. I really hit it like nuts nuts. Yes.

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Speaker 2: For the people who will never get the opportunity. I

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Speaker 2: And it's so interesting how little I remember of it.

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Speaker 2: It was so twenty five years ago. Thereabout it truly

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Speaker 2: is like if you're writing, imagine riding the most grueling

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Speaker 4: You want to play it now.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it at the end because I let's get

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Speaker 2: to the fifty three and then and then we'll give

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Speaker 2: it the end of this segment. We'll play it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: got ITFCT because let's let's get to where we are.

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Speaker 2: Because the fIF fifty three came out, uh yesterday initial

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Speaker 2: pretty good job explaining people how what this would look like? Yesterday?

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Speaker 3: I mean we pretty much nailed it with one surprise,

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Speaker 3: Deontay Foreman was not kept.

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Speaker 3: Deontay Foreman is going to be a Cleveland Brown, So

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Speaker 3: that was set.

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Speaker 3: Basically, So what we did was Deontay's a little bit

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Speaker 3: banged up, So I this is this, this is These

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Speaker 3: are not scores. This is just my interpretation of the situation.

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Speaker 3: Just like the million dollar man would say, yes, everybody

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Speaker 3: Big thank you to Jordan who came out the Blue

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Speaker 2: time out, Yes, sir, all right, we'll take a quick

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Speaker 2: everything that's going on around the league. Kevin Stefanski spoke

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Speaker 2: Here's Coach Stefanski after yesterday's practice, right before the cutdown

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Speaker 2: dead line. Let's have a listen. We got the four quarterbacks?

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Speaker 5: Is that the plan going up more into all fours?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we have four good quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: Simply do you have four on September eighth? We'll see.

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Speaker 5: I can speak for today. What's today?

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 5: Nobody knows what today is.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you get a couple of uh Mile Miles and

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Speaker 7: Jamari specifically, who who really came on through this course

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Speaker 7: of the queue just the way they they kind of captured,

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Speaker 7: you know, kind of caught your attention over it.

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Speaker 2: What what you know? How did you see them kind

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Speaker 2: of grow?

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Speaker 6: Well, Like we've talked about it, it's it's an incredible

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Speaker 6: accomplishment to make any NFL roster for all of our guys.

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Speaker 6: This is a competitive roster. There's a lot of competitive

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Speaker 6: rosters out there, so it's to be able to make it.

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Speaker 6: It's a big deal and you know, excited for those guys.

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Speaker 6: That's also only half the battle for these young players

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Speaker 6: that they need to carve out a role, They need

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Speaker 6: to continue to work, need to get better.

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Speaker 2: But I don't want to dismiss it.

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Speaker 5: It's a great accomplishment for those guys.

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Speaker 4: Kevin, could you.

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Speaker 1: Explain why how Wills is cleared to practice but is

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Speaker 1: in practice, is if he's not ready or there are

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Speaker 1: other practors.

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Speaker 6: In that he's uh, he's cleared to practice, he's doing walkthroughs.

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Speaker 6: He's not going to practice just yet, but he's progressing

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Speaker 6: through his rehab.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, Pardy Jack, you know Greg, Yeah, I thought

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Speaker 5: all those guys looked good.

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Speaker 6: We had a good long individual period just to really focus.

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Speaker 6: Today was refining our position skills, and I thought the

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Speaker 6: guys did a nice job with that.

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Speaker 5: So both guys look good.

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Speaker 6: Kevin, I know it's I know it's been the case

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Speaker 6: all summer, but I'm assuming you anticipate James to be

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Speaker 6: your number two week one. Yeah, I mean, like we

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Speaker 6: talked about earlier, we're not setting the depth chart at

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Speaker 6: any position. Obviously, we think very highly of Jamis and

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Speaker 6: all those guys.

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Speaker 5: Keaven I got in like maybe only two running bats.

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Speaker 5: What's a thinking?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, as you got you could probably just rewind what

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Speaker 6: I said last year. At this time, it's it's the

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Speaker 6: first fifty three, it's not the final fifty three. So uh,

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Speaker 6: I'm sure there's moves to be made down down the

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Speaker 6: line here.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 6: You know, I don't envy Andrew these days, because this

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Speaker 6: is some tough decisions to make.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 6: And and uh, he's got a plan and we'll work

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Speaker 6: through it.

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Speaker 2: Dont for what did why did he not make this too?

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Speaker 5: Again? Uh?

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Speaker 6: First fifty three not the final fifty three. Dante is

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Speaker 6: a guy we think highly of. It's just, uh, sometimes

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Speaker 6: it does come down to a numbers game.

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Speaker 5: Could you say whether a Conklin got lost time? Could

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Speaker 5: I say?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Uh No, I think at this point we're just gonna

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Speaker 6: work guys back in and.

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Speaker 5: Uh, I'll update you when when a appropriate, which.

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Speaker 8: Jack specifically, He's dealt with some injuries the last few

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Speaker 8: years in his career. I'm sure you saw him all

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Speaker 8: off season trying to train to get back. So I

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Speaker 8: guess just what does it take for him at this

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Speaker 8: stage's career to make it back at this day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a good question, Scott, And I think about

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Speaker 6: guys like Jack and guys like Nick and uh. I

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Speaker 6: get to see them work every day, and I mean

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Speaker 6: it's every day for those guys, and they're seemingly we're

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Speaker 6: no days off and they're in the training room, they're

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Speaker 6: in the weight room, and it can be a grind physically,

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Speaker 6: it can be a grind mentally. So for anybody that

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Speaker 6: then gets back out on the field, it's a very

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Speaker 6: big deal. So good to see Jack out there, good

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Speaker 6: to see him working, and really good to see all

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Speaker 6: the work that he's put in get him to this

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Speaker 6: point and again he's going to continue to work.

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Speaker 5: But excited for him.

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Speaker 2: Someone who who likes to.

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Speaker 9: Size some tight ends the fact to you, I count too.

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Speaker 9: Just what are those conversations like with the Andrew when

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Speaker 9: you came to the decision that you can start.

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Speaker 5: Off at least with two. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think we go into every year making sure that

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Speaker 6: we make the best decisions based on the roster and

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Speaker 6: that type of thing. I feel really calm fit in

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Speaker 6: Andrew and and our personnel department and putting this team together.

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Speaker 6: Like I mentioned, it's it's always in flux.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 6: The roster's in flux daily in the NFL. And that's

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Speaker 6: just the truth. So, uh, we work hard just like

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Speaker 6: all the other teams, find out who your best guys are,

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Speaker 6: and then put a plan together.

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Speaker 2: No comment.

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Speaker 6: When nik Miines was signed, he was so upbeat about

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Speaker 6: being ready for even the starter camp.

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Speaker 2: What happened?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know that there's a I don't think

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Speaker 6: anything happened, other than to say, Tony, with any injury,

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Speaker 6: you rehab based on how the players feeling, how how

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Speaker 6: the injury is responding.

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Speaker 5: To the rehab, those type of things.

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Speaker 6: So another young man that is working extremely hard and

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Speaker 6: he'll be out there a sa P.

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Speaker 2: Good. There you go, coach from coach from the podium

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Speaker 2: from yesterday. So we will have a practice today, yes, tomorrow, Yes,

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Speaker 2: break Friday.

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Speaker 4: Practice today at three thirty, Okay tomorrow at eleven forty five,

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Speaker 4: and then school's out for the weekend. Enjoy your final

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Speaker 4: weekends school.

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Speaker 2: And they'll come they'll come in back Monday, that's.

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Speaker 3: Right, practice Monday, off, Tuesday, and then Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Thursday, Friday, normal week. But you get that extra Monday practice,

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Speaker 2: you get the extra Monday practice. Mm hmm. There you go.

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Speaker 2: Look you it's it's go time now, Like, get to

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Speaker 2: that game against the Cowboys a week from Sunday. Enjoy

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Speaker 2: your last weekend college footballs this weekend. Take that in

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Speaker 2: and enjoy yourselves a lot of great games. And then

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Speaker 2: you get NFL the next week, and it's going to

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Speaker 2: hit your Thursday, Friday, Sunday, Monday, every day. But next

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Speaker 2: week with Haymakers lot of playing the hits Thursday Chiefs, Ravens, Friday, Packers, Eagles,

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Speaker 2: Sunday Brazil, thank God, Brown's Cowboys, Monday, Niners, Jets. It's

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Speaker 2: pretty pretty good. Did you get Lions, Rams and the

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Speaker 2: Lions Sunday Night Night Football? Yeah? Yeah, no, it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's a big time group. Basically, I did this thing

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Speaker 2: in the mornings where I hit every team in the

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Speaker 2: league over the course of a month. Yeah, And we

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Speaker 2: were doing this thing where we put them into categories,

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Speaker 2: so like are you a are you a go in

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl team? Are you a playoff team? Are

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Speaker 2: you building? Are you potentially a tank? Are you a

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Speaker 2: road to nowhere team? Like kind of a nowhere to go?

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Speaker 2: And just finished up the AFC North and did the

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Speaker 2: NFC North before that, And it's amazing how the how

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Speaker 2: consistently good the AFC North has been really since we

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Speaker 2: got good. It's because that kind of coincides with the

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Speaker 2: drafting A Borough in Cincinnati, so US and the Bengals

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Speaker 2: kind of got good at the same time and became

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Speaker 2: both relevant. Pittsburgh and and Baltimore never drifted. They were

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Speaker 2: always good, always been good, and always in the mix.

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Speaker 2: And I would argue they're probably the two. They're the

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Speaker 2: two most consistent operations in the last quarter century in

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Speaker 2: the league. Yeah, New England's off was so big, though

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Speaker 2: they went so quickly to Baltimore nor Pittsburgh never had that.

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Speaker 3: But the Letsburg hasn't won a playoff game in forever.

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Speaker 3: It's the old no, no, no, they haven't.

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Speaker 2: The Pittsburgh Steelers they don't want a playoff game since sixteen.

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Speaker 2: But they've also never fallen off a cliff. Ever, they're

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Speaker 2: perpetually they had a losing record, yeah they have. They're

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Speaker 2: perpetually building. They're always building into something. Now there's a

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Speaker 2: ceiling to a lot of their builds because they're some

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Speaker 2: of their choices at quarterback, but they are always building

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Speaker 2: and this maybe this does look like the year that

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Speaker 2: they that it comes up short. It's interesting talking to

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Speaker 2: Brooke prior this morning, her her feeling was kind of

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Speaker 2: like they were going Russell no matter what, Yeah, to

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Speaker 2: start this year, as much as we all kind of

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Speaker 2: thought it was an I asked her, I said, like,

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Speaker 2: did they was there? Did Justin blow this in some way?

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Speaker 2: Because Russ was heard at the beginning camp And She's like, no,

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Speaker 2: I don't think he blew it. She goes, I think

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Speaker 2: that that Russ that Mike Tomlin when they when they

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Speaker 2: traded for Russ and they acquired him or did they

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Speaker 2: sign him. When they signed him, Mike Tomlin told him

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Speaker 2: he was the guy he's a and Mike wasn't gonna

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Speaker 2: let him lose his job because he was hurt. Now,

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Speaker 2: that could happen during the course of the season, but

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Speaker 2: but to this point it hasn't. She also said that

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Speaker 2: Justin has been really quiet in camp, that he hasn't

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Speaker 2: been because he's following me to freedom guy like he's

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Speaker 2: been a natural charisma guy and and he hasn't been that.

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Speaker 2: So he's been quiet. So maybe this is the year

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Speaker 2: for them, But everybody else in the division is locked in.

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Speaker 2: I think probably even Pittsburgh probably in the building, is like,

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Speaker 2: hey we could why why not us? Russ has been

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Speaker 2: in a super Bowl, he's done. It's been a long time,

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Speaker 2: but the other teams all believe that way. The pressure

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Speaker 2: in Cincinnati is nuts for them to do it, like

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Speaker 2: it's the most pressure they've been under maybe ever, to

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Speaker 2: like go win a super Bowl like they feel it

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Speaker 2: and interesting, yeah that they've they've never really had.

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Speaker 3: And this team isn't as good as the one two

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Speaker 3: years ago that had baits and bulls and I don't

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Speaker 3: have those guys.

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Speaker 2: The back end. They talked themselves into Dak Hill. It's

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Speaker 2: it's crazy to me how much they talked them So

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Speaker 2: put him in a corner. I know, Yeah, that's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a problem.

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Speaker 4: I think, I agree.

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Speaker 3: What what is gonna happen is Chase just gonna play

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Speaker 3: Week one gonna be like, okay, now I'm playing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just gonna play. I'm good. I guess he's

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Speaker 2: been doing a lot of light stuff with them kind

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Speaker 2: of behind you know, you and I talked about this

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Speaker 2: at camp, like there's like the walk through stuff and

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Speaker 2: then there's the stuff that's for public. So like, I

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Speaker 2: guess he's been doing like all of the behind closed

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Speaker 2: doors stuff without him, but he hasn't done the on

655
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: field stuff in camp. It's still you need to be

656
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: the walk through stuff is not the same as Yeah,

657
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 2: I mean him and Joe I think he's in everything

658
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: I hear is like they're not concerned about at all,

659
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: Like he's got he's said, but yeah, like they feel

660
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of pressure. And then in Baltimore, it's

661
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: interesting because you know, they really think that Derrick Henry

662
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: is going to add them something tremendous and and that

663
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: the rest of us are downplaying it. I always feel like, gosh,

664
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: it feels like the national media is not downplaying at all.

665
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 2: Like everybody picks the Ravens tore at the top. Lamar

666
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: is always like the number two ranked player in football.

667
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: Like it feels like they get a lot of love

668
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: with that Baltimore operation. And maybe people ignore how how

669
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: few of their defensive people are, especially are back.

670
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: They lost a principal player at all three levels of

671
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: their defense. Yeah, and every coach on their defense except

672
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: for one, including the defensive coordinator. It's pretty it's it

673
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: is wild to me. Here's the other thing that I

674
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: would that I would point out to people. Last year,

675
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: they're three running backs produced two thousand total yards and

676
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: nineteen touchdowns.

677
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

678
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 3: Ye, actually more than that, twenty touchdowns and twenty to

679
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: twenty one hundred total yards.

680
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: Sorry JK.

681
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 3: Dobbins had thirty seven total yards and one touchdown as well.

682
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: Add that in there.

683
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: So twenty one touchdowns from their running backs, yeah, and

684
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: over two thousand total yards, about twenty two hundred total yards.

685
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: How much better is it going to be? What's the

686
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: yards per carry roughly on that for them last year? Yeah?

687
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: From their running backs? Uh, ballpark it.

688
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 3: Edwards was four point one yep, Justice Hill was four

689
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: point six, Keaton Mitchell was eight point four. So srh

690
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: Monory was three of them. Derrick Henry was like four

691
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 3: last year. Yeah, their most, but he also was doing

692
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: all their short yards stuff. But yeah, he averaged Gus

693
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: Edwards ran for eight hundred and ten yards and thirteen touchdowns. Yeah,

694
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: thirteen touchdowns four point one. I mean it's the same

695
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: thing I said with you know, Algier and b John,

696
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: like how much better are you going to be now?

697
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 3: With Kirk Cousins. Maybe that un locksy offense and they

698
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: can be better. But I think people are acting like

699
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: that as a bigger deal than I think it is,

700
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 3: and I think people are just completely overlooking what's happened

701
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: on the other side of the ball for that they

702
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: were the number one scoring defense in the league last year.

703
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 4: We have news we have signed thirteen to the practice squad.

704
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 4: Juwan Briggs, Tony Brown, YEP, Jalen Darden, Christopher Edmonds, Justin Hardy,

705
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 4: Jermaine Effetti, Sam Kamara, uh Roy Medabke, Metica Betica International

706
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 4: Pathway Program player YEP, James Proshee, Winston Reid Rex Sinnahara,

707
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 4: Lorenzo Thompson, and Michael Woods the second.

708
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: Okay, so these but every person on this list. And

709
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 3: now we've and Adam Schefter's report that Mike Ford has

710
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: signed with the Browns practice squad. That is that is

711
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: not on here as now. I think with Roy and

712
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: Betica being on the practice squad, I believe that allows

713
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: the Browns to have seventeen on the practice squad. I

714
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: don't think international Pathways players ever count against anything that

715
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 3: you're doing, Like we were able to have ninety one

716
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,479
Speaker 3: because of him. I think you're I think I think

717
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 3: I'll get that verified. But Jawan Briggs was our seventh

718
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 3: round pick this year. Tony Brown, they wanted back Jalen

719
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 3: Dard and Edmonds. They really like the young safety at

720
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: Arizona State. Hardy as back a Fetti's back. Kamara is back.

721
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 3: By the way, Sam Kamara is a defensive tackle. I

722
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: don't know why it says tackle. He plays defensive football.

723
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: Roy and Bettica proshe Winston, he'd rex soon a har

724
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 3: Lorenzo Thompson, Michael Woods. So you brought back three three receivers,

725
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: two of whom can hit Prochet is a punt returner,

726
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 3: Darden's a kick returner. You got Tony Brown special team's

727
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 3: Ace Hardy special teams. I mean, for the Browns, this

728
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: couldn't have worked out any better because everybody you were

729
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: talking about who is going to be that sixth corner,

730
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 3: they're all back. The people, the every candidate was back

731
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: for that and who was you know, they really liked

732
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: Winston read a lot, and they're able to get him back.

733
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: By the way, Michael Woods in the program.

734
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 4: I'm a big fan that he's got. He got back

735
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 4: after he got shafted by the officiating Saturday night.

736
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: Winston read me too.

737
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was I think the word I use was

738
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: garbage on the podcast, I cleaned it up. It was

739
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 3: it was garbage. It was just it's just this so

740
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 3: interesting here, just real quick. Yeah, So Mike Ford's name

741
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 3: is not listed, even though we've read reports that Mike

742
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: Ford's coming back. And my guess is he'd asked to

743
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: come here, and because he wasn't here. The one name

744
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: that I'm surprised I don't see on here, and I

745
00:35:53,480 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 3: don't know what to read into that is Isaiah Thomas mhmm.

746
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 3: They like Isaiah Thomas Lott. He played well for the

747
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns right there, he would know, he would know,

748
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: h and maybe and the fact that there is not

749
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 3: a running back amongst this group right now. Yeah, again,

750
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: we told you at the top, Deonte Foreman will be

751
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: back with the Browns more likely than not. I'm surprised

752
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: though that that that there isn't another running back even

753
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: with that, because that would just be the fourth.

754
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: So there again, thirteen right now, they've got two, but

755
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: Foreman back, so that'll be your three.

756
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's it, and I think you've got four

757
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 3: more spots here. If one of them is Mike four,

758
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: that still will leave you three spots or two if

759
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 3: if Embetica counts against the sixteen.

760
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: Look when you get into next week, these are going

761
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: to be the topics of conversation. Number one, what is

762
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 2: the health? And who is playing left tackle? Yep? Is that?

763
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: Can Jack Conklin get ready that quickly? I think to

764
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: play left tackle?

765
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 3: I think next week you are going to have Jack

766
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: Conklin practicing and he got the benefit of prexicing all week,

767
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: and I think Jedle'll be back at practice next week.

768
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: Okay, so that did that, But who's starts? Who are

769
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: you gonna go? So that to me, I'm just saying, like,

770
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: when we go to a game week next week, who's

771
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 2: your left tackle? I don't know. That's that's a real one. Yeah.

772
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: And and in terms of like and then the next

773
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 2: one would be who are your running backs? Is forming

774
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: ready to go and good to go? He's your three?

775
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: And so there you go on that. Beyond that, I

776
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 2: feel pretty good. There really isn't anything else. And then

777
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: the over the thing over all of this, which kind

778
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 2: of gets back that AFC North conversation we were having,

779
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: is this is now the season of DeShawn and it's

780
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: everything is built. It has it always has been, and

781
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: now we can finally see it play. We didn't see

782
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: him play through. We saw him obviously had a lot

783
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: of practices and he looked great. But but now this

784
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: will everything done too because there aren't any other questions. Yeah,

785
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: the point the point I was bringing with bringing all

786
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: those AFC North teams up is is like all of

787
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: them have things like I think sick. I think the

788
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: Cincinnati secondary is a real problem. I think the interior

789
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: of the Cincinnati defensive line is a real problem. At tackle,

790
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: they are they do not have the depth that they

791
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: used to have there, same thing with their secondary. They

792
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: got a safety playing starting corner, like, they have real questions.

793
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh has enormous questions at quarterback in terms of what

794
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: that is supposed to. They don't have a lot of

795
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: weapons either. Obviously they got Pickens. He's great, and Warren's

796
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: better than Harris. I think that thing's weird. So like

797
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: they have questions, and I think Baltimore has real questions.

798
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: We have who's starting at left tackle? You know, somebody

799
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: very capable is going to be there, provided they're healthy.

800
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 2: One of them is more than capable. Conklin or Will's

801
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: very capable, but you want one of them there and

802
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: healthy and all of those things. And then the other

803
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: thing is just we just need Watson to go play

804
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 2: and that's it. Play. Yeah, but there aren't any other

805
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: questions with the roster gets plays. Like you're going through

806
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: this practice squad and you're thinking about folks, if you

807
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: listen to the show, you love the Cleveland Browns. Yes,

808
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 2: the day before cutdown day, we got fifty two of

809
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: fifty three. You did fifty two of fifty three. You

810
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: did it in about two minutes. And the only thing

811
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: that we weren't sure on was four quarterbacks versus three

812
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: running backs. And that's really a technicality because by the

813
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: time we get to next week it's going to be sorted.

814
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: It likely it'll be the fifty three of fifty three. Yes,

815
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 2: it'll be fifty three out of fifty three. My point

816
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: of this is your long damn ways from twenty spots

817
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: up for grabs. Oh yeah, begging on the waiver wire

818
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: for playmakers at receiver because you don't have any. Yeah,

819
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 2: those days are done, it's gone. This is what happens

820
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: when you have a really talented football team.

821
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 3: There really aren't any questions agreed, and that's where you're

822
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 3: at here now. I mentioned Isaiah Thomas as a name.

823
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 3: I was surprised that I didn't see there. I'm not

824
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: going to say I'm surprised that I don't see this name,

825
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: but I do think it is noteworthy that at least

826
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: at this point, siaki Eka wasn't even brought back to

827
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 3: the practice squad.

828
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: I have even less scores than you, but two years,

829
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 2: one year in the system, third round pick, they obviously

830
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,439
Speaker 2: did not like what they were getting.

831
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Speaker 3: In anyway, and unfortunately for him, his tape was bad.

832
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: Tape Week eighteen against the Bengals is bad. In the preseason.

833
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 3: There are many times when if you were the quarterback,

834
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: you would have been able to read his jersey because

835
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: he was pushed and literally turned around down the field.

836
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Glazer, with this, the Steelers have made Russell Wilson

837
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: their starter, to the surprise of nobody. That's how that

838
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 2: was gonna go. Tomlin was gonna let that play out

839
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 2: through the week. I'm not sure why. Like again, talking

840
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: to Brook this morning, she's like, I don't really know

841
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: what he's doing. Like everybody knows it's gonna be well, said,

842
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what. And he's Russ has checked down

843
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: Charlie now, so like he's not going downfield. So how

844
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: he manages the Pickens stuff is going to be fascinating

845
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 2: because Pickens is going to be a lot of dantrums. Yeah,

846
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: because he's gonna get deep a lot and they're not

847
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: gonna throw it to him. And I think that's gonna

848
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 2: be something to watch. There could be a very volatile

849
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: season for them. All right, coming up next we will

850
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Speaker 4: I think we're good good. I think we figured out

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Speaker 2: Great Connor O'Donnell was there with you. He was your

867
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: lieutenant at Connor o'donnald was your Why are we going

868
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: losing with him this weekend? I didn't do that when

869
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: you're pulling seven point three.

870
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, no.

871
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: He's the he's the MC. He has the MC.

872
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 5: I get.

873
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 2: I gave him some. I gave him some good things

874
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: to some good rack go after. Yeah, yeah, some very

875
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: good things. I think he does quite well. All right,

876
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: do we have this.

877
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 3: Very It was a lifelong dream come true. But I

878
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: think I'm a healthy amount of nervous. Shout out Ryan

879
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: Novak in the back there.

880
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: Just watch when you get the takeoff to it's gonna

881
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: be so loud.

882
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 3: About the putting up the new names, and when you

883
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: land it's it's over.

884
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: He's talking about how the last show of the year

885
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 2: he will be narrating and by the time the planes land,

886
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 2: he will be the sixth pilot name will be there.

887
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: They've scraped up the old.

888
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: Six as soon as its final show as they land

889
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 3: as they they will land and be off of what

890
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: they were.

891
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: Wow, it's just showing right now, showing the helmets.

892
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 3: I'm walking out to the plane with the crew officer

893
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 3: who's responsible for the maintenance of the plane. I was,

894
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: and there's a pilot, Lieutenant Conra o'donald. I was in

895
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 3: the plane for thirty minutes before we took off, just

896
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 3: getting strapped.

897
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: And you're strapped in I think nineteen different points were

898
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: you were here. Here's a takeoff takeoff. So we're gonna

899
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: take off.

900
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 3: We're gonna be leveled about one hundred feet over the ground,

901
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: and then he's gonna say.

902
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: We're pretty hit it and we.

903
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: Are gonna go vertical. What you will see from inside

904
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 3: the cockpit right here, pull five g's straight up to

905
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 3: see the State Cleanland Stadium in the background.

906
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 2: Really cool.

907
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 3: All right, So this next one is gonna be This

908
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: is me pulling seven point three g's here, almost blacking

909
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 3: out at the top.

910
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: And that's the breathing you have to do. I thought

911
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: you were in labor. It does sound like labor.

912
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that contrail is there.

913
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, you're going to see her skill

914
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: trail we just did.

915
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 5: That was.

916
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 3: This is a just nice, gentle role, full upside down inversion.

917
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: And then this next one was gonna be very fast roles.

918
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 5: We go.

919
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: Ready hit it. That's so when he.

920
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: He'll tell me kind of what was going on, most

921
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: fun of any riding.

922
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: And I made it. There were two times where I

923
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: thought he was I was gone, or I made it.

924
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: Seven three that's so cool. Seven three, that's really cool. Yeah.

925
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: So the last thing they did, which we didn't show

926
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 2: on there, but he he he.

927
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 3: Stepped it up on me. He was He could not

928
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: have been cooler. We were talking the whole time. Uh,

929
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: it was awesome, just an awesome, awesome, awesome experience. But yeah,

930
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 3: that's kind of how they set it up. So he'll

931
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 3: be like, all right, so we're gonna do you know,

932
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 3: see climb.

933
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: Ready hit it.

934
00:44:55,239 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 3: And then once hit it happens, you're at the of

935
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 3: the plane and gravity and you got to just try

936
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: to fight stay alive. But the ready gives you a

937
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 3: chance to really raise yourself. There was one move we

938
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: were gonna do that was a five year and you

939
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 3: constantly have to be like clearing your ears because you're

940
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 3: getting different pressure. Yeah, all the time, you're changing altitude,

941
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: so fast, and one of them I couldn't clear my ears,

942
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 3: and like sometimes you're I knows, I is this ever

943
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: happened to before you go on TV? This happens to

944
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 3: me sometimes like before I'm like, oh my god, I

945
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 3: can't swallow, and I'm like, am I gonna be all

946
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 3: to Yeah?

947
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: You get those weird things that are very normally like

948
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: what is going on? Yeah? Yeah, So I couldn't swallow

949
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: and I was like, I was like, I'm not ready.

950
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: I got to clear my ears and then chomp the

951
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: gum a little more gum was key, Uh, swallowed it

952
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 3: and then I'm like, now I'm ready.

953
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: Rety hit it. The point in the video where you

954
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: take off. I remember that part vividly of take off

955
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: and then it happened so fast that you're and you're

956
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 2: so into it, just looking straight ahead and you're the

957
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 2: first time you hit it, and then all of a sudden,

958
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: like you look out and you go, oh my god,

959
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: how far did we go that fast? Yeah, like it

960
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: hits you and they had that in the video where

961
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: you look out and you're like, okay, yeah, like that's

962
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: we that got real small, real quick. Yeah.

963
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the one thing I've always understood about aviation.

964
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 3: I would say that I've been always very comfortable with

965
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 3: is that with the mout right amount of propulsion, you

966
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: can lift anything off of the ground. They've got plenty

967
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 3: of propulsion. They got that, baby, they've got they've got

968
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 3: plenty of it.

969
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, fifteen thousand gallon tank? Is that what it is? Well,

970
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: he said, we are through two thirds of it.

971
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 3: We eat to that about five thousand gallons left, and

972
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: he said, you know that's that's really not that much.

973
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 2: We burned it pretty quickly. We got to get that. Jeez. Yeah,

974
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: really cool. Once in a lifetime. That's it. That's the

975
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: list and all of the great people, great prevates and

976
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: modes and yes, everybody people who were there with yesterday

977
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: like it just very cool, very cool. Yeah.

978
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: So my my buddy, right Novak was there obviously, the

979
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 3: great miss k and my mom, the sweet Nana.

980
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 2: How did Nana take it? She loved it.

981
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: She's got we're walking through and she's thought, I'm his mom,

982
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: I'm his mom.

983
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: Meantime, what were paid Pedro's critiques. I'm sure he had

984
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: some critiques for you.

985
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: No, he thought it was pretty awesome. He made fun

986
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 3: of how I sounded.

987
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: Of course, of course I knew there would be some

988
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: sort he was shot taken.

989
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I think for it's something that he wishes

990
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: he had probably gotten the opportunity to do at.

991
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 2: Some point in his life. I mean, he would he

992
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: admit that, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, And we could

993
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: call him.

994
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: He'll tell he'll yeah, well, well we can. We got

995
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: another trial of Pedro.

996
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: He loses him, we dominate him. He's hopefully too. He

997
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: doesn't even he hardly walks in and the judge like,

998
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: just leave you again, yep, get out of here.

999
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 4: What game is he coming in for?

1000
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: By the way, this year, that's a good question.

1001
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 5: Uh.

1002
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: My guess is Bengals feels pretty good October twentieth because

1003
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 3: his birthday is October eighteenth.

1004
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: Oh, he loves he loves a birthday.

1005
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 3: I think that would be my guess if I was

1006
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: the guest, that would be I would guess that would

1007
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 3: be the one.

1008
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 2: Week seven There you go, all right, good job at

1009
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: you and good job of the United States Navy. Incredible job.

1010
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: It's just incredible, incredible. Yeah, there's a generation of us

1011
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: our age who look up to that. And it's because

1012
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: of the movie. Because it really is. It's Top Gun

1013
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: and the influence that that had on our youth and

1014
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: how cool we thought all of that was. And I

1015
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 2: will say this, it was something that watching Maverick with

1016
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 2: the boys, they got into it, which was so cool.

1017
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah much, because you know, Top Gun is a long

1018
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: time ago for them, but Maverick was like right in

1019
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 2: their face and so like Hopefully that same type of

1020
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 2: enthusiasm that came from Top Gun will come from Maverick

1021
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 2: for the next generation of everybody else. Because it's about

1022
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 2: as cool as it gets. We'll go around the league

1023
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,840
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1024
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,000
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1025
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,160
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1030
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1036
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 2: Not much, not much, pretty quiet on the western front.

1037
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook signing with the Cowboys. He's past the born

1038
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: on date on that one.

1039
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: It feels like so he posted some you know, he

1040
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 3: looked good in some workout videos.

1041
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 2: They certainly they posted some.

1042
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,919
Speaker 3: But yeah, it feels like he he's been unfortunately man,

1043
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 3: and it's a short career, right drafted in seventeen, four

1044
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 3: time Pro bowler from nineteen to twenty two, and then

1045
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: last year, you know, really couldn't get it going to

1046
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: three point two yards of carry.

1047
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 2: It fell off a cliff.

1048
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: So unless he's able to get back to where he

1049
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 3: was prior to that, which in Minnesota is four point

1050
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 3: seven yards of carry, four Pro Bowls, as we talked about,

1051
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: three straight thousand yard seasons, you know, it's one of those.

1052
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll try it out.

1053
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 3: But he says that he's he's feeling pretty good right now.

1054
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: We'll see. I'm trying to see if there was a

1055
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 2: I couldn't remember, like his injury history, so there's a

1056
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 2: great site called draft Sharks that kind of goes over it. Yeah.

1057
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 2: So in seventeen he had an ACL tear. Yeah, going

1058
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: all the way back to seventeen and then once from

1059
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: that point on and he was great after that. He

1060
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: had a hamstring in eighteen that kind of flared up

1061
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: a couple of times. Nineteen is when the shoulders started

1062
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: to be a problem. He had a shoulder, dislocated shoulder

1063
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: in twenty one. Torn labrum in twenty one happened that

1064
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: same time, and then twenty twenty two it was back

1065
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: to the back to the shoulder. He had the shoulder again.

1066
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 2: So just one of those things, like an amount of

1067
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 2: hits that a human body can take and we're just

1068
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: not as there's so many factors to it. One athletes

1069
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: have never been bigger, faster, stronger than they are currently.

1070
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 2: So the hits you're taking, while while some of the

1071
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: hits a long time ago were more vicious in a

1072
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: one on one nature, the consistent hitting, in my opinion,

1073
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: has much more force. Doctor rus would probably know this

1074
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: more than anybody. But just when there are no there's

1075
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: nobody out there who is I think about this in

1076
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: training camp, they don't have to get in shape. Thirty

1077
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 2: in shape. These guys will never get out of shape, correct.

1078
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: So I think all of that kind of factors into it.

1079
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 2: It just leads from much shorter shelf life, especially at

1080
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: that position. Yep, agreed. It's it's just it's tough.

1081
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 3: It chews you up and it spits you out, and

1082
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 3: that's unfortunately kind of the reality of what's going on

1083
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 3: here in in the NFL at that position.

1084
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 2: It really is.

1085
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 3: It's it's it's a sad reality, but I think it

1086
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: very much is a reality nonetheless, Like that just is

1087
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 3: kind of unfortunately the way that that position is and

1088
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 3: how it's ultimately you know, played itself out.

1089
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 2: Bootsy or this was Beamsy at the breakfast this morning.

1090
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: He said he was telling trying to convince his brothers.

1091
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: Actually the last night at dinner, he's trying to convince

1092
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: his brothers that uh paid in uh in Bootsy, trying

1093
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: to convince them that the NFL was eliminating the running

1094
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 2: back position. And I said, I go, well, where did

1095
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 2: you I said, And the others are like, no, they're not,

1096
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: that's ridiculous, and and I'm like, like, where did you

1097
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: hear that? And he goes ESPN and I said, ESPN,

1098
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 2: you heard it from ESPN. And he's like, he's like, yeah,

1099
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: it was, it was on it was on ESPN, it

1100
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: was on whatever. And I said, I said, buddy, I

1101
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: think what you're referring to is probably that they are

1102
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 2: no longer that the NFL no longer puts a priority

1103
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: on the right back position in terms of paying players.

1104
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: Sure that? And he's like, oh, yeah, yeah, that was it. Yeah,

1105
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: that's a little different than the NFL is going to

1106
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: limit a position Tyler Bage. It's dad would like that

1107
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 2: a lot. He would love it. Pass every down. Yeah,

1108
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 2: you're welcome. Just when Nika laughter, Yeah, absolutely great. OBJ

1109
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: gonna miss the first four games of the season undisclosed

1110
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: injury down there. Did he even participate? I don't think

1111
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,479
Speaker 2: he did anything. Nope, Yeah, nope, he has not done

1112
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 2: anything since he's gotten there. You think he's cooked? Do

1113
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 2: I think he's cooked.

1114
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 4: Once the injury started?

1115
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: Feels like it feels like it a little bit. You

1116
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 2: remember when we redid the new uniforms. It was during COVID,

1117
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 2: and they sent us all like one and you had

1118
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: a white Beckham and I had the brown Ward and

1119
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 2: those things kind of went around. I was thinking about

1120
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: this this morning. Is the Sometimes it's hard to remember

1121
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: he was here, Like, is that something like ten years

1122
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 2: from you're gonna go like you're going to see that

1123
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: Jersey thirteen and be like, we will I'm saying people

1124
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: outside sure of our walls, Yeah, we're never going to

1125
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: forget it. But like the people outside of the walls,

1126
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: people who are casual NFL fans, you walk around into

1127
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 2: thirteen white Browns Beckham thirteen, how many people are be like, oh, yeah,

1128
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: like that happens sometimes, Like I don't know how many

1129
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 2: people remember Emmitt Smith played with the Cardinals, but that happened.

1130
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: You know, those things do happen at the end of

1131
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 2: careers where you end up in weird place. Jerry Rice

1132
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: was a seahawk. He was. I did not remember that.

1133
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: I remember him with the Raiders, for sure. I did

1134
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 2: not remember him as a seahawk, but you bounce around

1135
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: a little bit. That wasn't the case with beck I mean,

1136
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: we get a number one pick because we thought Doris

1137
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: thought that he was going to be the difference maker

1138
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: and the most listened to pod we've ever done. It

1139
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: was top ten in the world, the world. Yeah, I

1140
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: think we did it on the phone, not just sports now.

1141
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 2: We did. Yeah, I was sitting on Mike. Yeah, I

1142
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 2: hooked you guys.

1143
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 4: It recorded it and we had two phones podcasts with

1144
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 4: two phones.

1145
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 2: It was like twenty minutes or fifteen minutes on it.

1146
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 4: It was like it's seven o'clock at night. The hoff

1147
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 4: was on NFL network when the news broke.

1148
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he has had He was

1149
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: awesome here as a human. He's really cool dude, and

1150
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 2: really good to everybody here. But it almost felt like

1151
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 2: just his persona was so enormous yep, that it was

1152
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 2: almost it almost held him. It almost held the player back.

1153
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: He was son. It was like he became that persona totally. Yeah. Yeah,

1154
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 2: and he just he.

1155
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 3: Has been unfortunately kind of what you talked about there.

1156
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 3: He's unfortunately been banged up quite a bit. That's just

1157
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 3: kind of that's just the reality of it.

1158
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he's had some monster injuries, monster injuries.

1159
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 3: He's done his knee what twice, Yeah, did his knee

1160
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 3: with actually got banged twice.

1161
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: And in the super Bowl, in the Super Bowl where

1162
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: he scored in the Super Bowl, he was really good

1163
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: for them. That was probably the that stretch with the

1164
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: Rams was probably the last really good football he played,

1165
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: was that stretch with them? What did he end up there?

1166
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 2: He ended up twenty seven for three h five five

1167
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 2: touchdowns though, and was kind of a contributed That was

1168
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, last year in Baltimore. Remember that deal

1169
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: they gave him thirty five for five sixty five and

1170
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: three scores. Last year they gave him. Was it like

1171
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 2: sixteen fifteen, fifteen, one year, fifteen, one year fifteen on

1172
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: that seventeen he had a thousand yard rei receiving season

1173
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: for US. I don't know how many people remember that.

1174
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 2: He took one hundred and thirty three targets seventy four

1175
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: for one thousand and thirty five just four touchdowns that year.

1176
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: That was in twenty nineteen. His his APEX was cert

1177
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 2: I mean, the idea that he was so shot out

1178
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 2: of a canon ninety one for thirteen oh five and

1179
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: twelve is a rookie, ninety six for fourteen fifty and

1180
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 2: thirteen as a as a second year player, and then

1181
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: one on one for thirteen sixty seven and ten in

1182
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. That's his first three years in the league.

1183
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the first year few remember he missed basically

1184
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 3: all of camp, and I want to say the first

1185
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 3: four games with a hamstring.

1186
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: He only started eleven yea, right, he missed. He only

1187
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: played twelve games that year. Yeah, and went ninety one

1188
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: for thirteen oh five. Yeah yeah, yeah, but that was

1189
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: that was he was. He was drafted like he was.

1190
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 3: He won fantasy leagues that year because he was and

1191
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 3: really for the next couple of years off it was

1192
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 3: a keeper league because he was on I don't know,

1193
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 3: he wasn't on the pup, but he was out and

1194
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 3: he was kind of like an afterthought because of all

1195
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 3: the injuries going into it, and so you could have

1196
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 3: gotten him in a very late round.

1197
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: So he would have had So he comes in, let

1198
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: me just match this up. So I'm guessing there's a

1199
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: correlation here. So his last healthy year with the Giants

1200
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 2: was because he missed almost all of twenty seventeen. He

1201
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: started two games, got hurt, and then he only played

1202
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 2: twelve games in twenty eighteen, but he was pretty effective

1203
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: seventy seven for on thy fifty two. So his last

1204
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: year with the Giants twenty eighteen, Eli Manning's last like

1205
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 2: good year coincided. So sixteen was Manning's last great year. Yep,

1206
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: they went eleven and five That year Manning was fourenty

1207
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 2: twenty seven, twenty six touchdown, sixteen picks, So that was

1208
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 2: his Like, that was it. And then they went three

1209
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: and twelve, five and eleven. That was a crazy year.

1210
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: And I think it was seventeen. It was seventeen where

1211
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: they benched him, like ended his start streaks. They give

1212
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: Gino Smith a start. Do you remember that? Yeah? Was it?

1213
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: That's right McAdoo or something. Who did that? Ben Ben

1214
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 2: mcadow Yeah, remember that crazy guy was a coach of

1215
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 2: an NFL team. Unbelievable. Frank Kitchens, Ben McAdoo, like some

1216
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 2: of these people got running.

1217
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: Things, Tom Sula, Toms. I loved Singletary. Singletary's tenure was

1218
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 3: as crazy as any.

1219
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 2: Well he was the yeah with Vernon, Yeah, Canvas came

1220
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: win with them, came win with them. Won't do it,

1221
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: won't do it, won't with them? Yeah. Yeah, like all

1222
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 2: of a sudden, like Harbob became was like such a

1223
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: normalized thing once they got Harbod's Singletary did. Singletary Singletary

1224
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 2: was high. Was he was? He interim and then he

1225
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 2: kept it. I think he kept it though. Yeah, I

1226
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: he was interim to start. I believe he did keep

1227
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: it though. Let's see, I feel like he was was

1228
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: he before I can't remember if he was before or

1229
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: after Tom Sula? There we go. I don't even know

1230
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 2: what he's doing now. He's sixty five, so he's probably

1231
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: probably wrapped up all right. So I got it forty

1232
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 2: nine ers assistant head coach linebackers from five to eight,

1233
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: and then he was interim head coach and eight and

1234
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 2: then he was the head coach from nine to ten. Yeah,

1235
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: so he got two years. Yeah, yeah, I mean at

1236
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: least at least he's one of the greatest linebackers in

1237
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 2: the history all sport. So it's not like Mac. I

1238
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 2: don't know who Ben mcado, I don't know what that guy, yeah,

1239
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: or Jim Tom Suwella, I don't know what what Tom

1240
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: Sulla So he took over. Freddy was like the tight

1241
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: ends coach for Arizona for a decade. Yeah.

1242
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 3: Tom Sulla started off as the Woodlands High School defensive

1243
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 3: line coach in Pennsylvania in nineteen ninety. He went from

1244
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 3: to Charleston Southern, to Cataba, to the London Monarchs to

1245
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 3: the Scottish Claymores to the Berlin Thunder, to the rain Fire.

1246
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 3: Then he was the Niners defensive line coach, interim head coach,

1247
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 3: and he was the head coach in twenty fifteen.

1248
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm not sure it was the record. So one year,

1249
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: gig and then they so he.

1250
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 3: Replaced harven eleven, he replaced Harbaugh. I think he replaced Singletary,

1251
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 3: didn't he?

1252
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 2: No, no, no, Harbaugh replaced Singletary because they Harbor. Singletary

1253
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: was done in ten. Harbaugh was there in twelve when

1254
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: they got to the Super Bowl. Okay, right, Kaepernick and

1255
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: all that, and then Tom Sulla replaced.

1256
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 3: Got it, Harbaugh, succeeding Harbor, who had been fired by

1257
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 3: for an nco Jed York. So then at one season

1258
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 3: he was That's why I was confused. During the twenty

1259
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 3: ten season, Tomsull was named the interim head coach for

1260
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 3: the regular season finale after single time he was fired.

1261
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 3: He won his coaching debut thirty eight seven. So he

1262
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 3: was the head coach for one game in twenty ten

1263
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 3: and then was the head coach in twenty fifteen.

1264
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 5: Jeez.

1265
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 3: A few days later, you're confirmed that the forty Niners

1266
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 3: would pay Jim tom Sulla he was fired after his

1267
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 3: first season. Yep, they would pay him fourteen million dollars

1268
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 3: for his loan season as the head coach to get

1269
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 3: out of the contract. All right, a great deal for

1270
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 3: Jim tom Sulla. That's a great deal for Jim tom Sula.

1271
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: All Right, Let's don't don't pull anything up, Okay, I

1272
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: want let's we're gonna do a little version of guess

1273
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 2: the stats, and except it's going to be guess where

1274
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 2: the former NFL coach is now and maybe also guess

1275
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 2: their age, because I think that's pretty funny too. Okay,

1276
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 2: all right, let's start with a Ben McAdoo. We mentioned

1277
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 2: him first. What is your best guess on Ben mcadoo's age.

1278
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: Fifty two? Pretty close, he's our age. He's forty seven.

1279
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 2: Little younger, We're a little younger, but that's it. He's

1280
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 2: writ in that wheelhouse. We look significantly younger he is.

1281
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,439
Speaker 2: You know what he currently is doing, You.

1282
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 3: Just stay in the league forever. My guess is he's

1283
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 3: like an offensive consultant for somebody.

1284
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 5: Good.

1285
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 2: So is Cowboy's Giants head coach from sixteen to seventeen,

1286
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 2: it was the Packers out three years. Right, he was

1287
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 2: the Packers OC prior. That's how you know Giants OC.

1288
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 2: He was Packers quarterback coach from twelve to thirteen, then

1289
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 2: he got Giants OC from fourteen to fifteen, Giants head

1290
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: coach sixteen to I mean he went, he was everywhere.

1291
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Speaker 2: He was Saints quality control forty nine, Ers assistant tight

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Speaker 2: ends coach, Packers quarterbacks coach, Packers coordinator, Giants head coach, Giants.

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Speaker 2: Then he's out three years, So that's probably as they're

1294
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: paying out his contract here, did he macko who did

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01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 2: for a coordinator job? Yeah? I think so when Kevin

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01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 2: was first hired. So he goes quarterback coach Jacksonville in

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Speaker 2: twenty Dallas Cowboys consultant twenty one offensive coordinator Carolina twenty

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Speaker 2: two out of the year and now senior assistant offense

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Speaker 2: New England Patriots. All right, Jim oh, he's working with AVP.

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01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 2: He is Jim tom Sula Sula, all right, defensive line

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Speaker 2: coach sixty he is fifty six. Okay, within ten percent

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01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 2: on it. It's pretty pretty close. Yeah, I could be

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Speaker 2: at the So that's Theedar point d line coach, Redskins

1304
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 2: seventeen to nineteen Cowboys d Line Coach twenty from twenty

1305
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: twenty two on. He is a rival of the Hoff.

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01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: He is your head coach of the rain Fire. Yeah,

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01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 2: Jim Tom Suell is over in Germany and then he goes,

1308
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 2: doesn't he go to the Scottish Claymores. No, that's what

1309
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: he's doing right now. He's that job. Now he's coaching

1310
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: rain Fire right now, what that's right? Oh? No, he

1311
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 2: was with the London Monarch, Scottish claym Wars, Berlin Thunder, Rainfire.

1312
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Speaker 2: He's with the Rainfire like in the old By the way,

1313
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Speaker 2: you know you've lived in Ohio a long time when

1314
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 2: instead of pronouncing it Berlin, you pronounce it Berlin, but

1315
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 2: Berlin Thunder. And now he's back with you or me,

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01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 2: I just did it slipped rain Berlin Berlin. Yeah, that's good.

1317
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 2: We are going to Berlin. It's from Eurotrip.

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Speaker 4: Euro Trip.

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Speaker 2: That's a formidable if you just say Berlin like you

1320
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 2: get the shakes Berlin. That's a lot going on. You're

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01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: going to march on Berlin, rain Fire coach. Right now?

1322
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Speaker 2: Do you know where Frederico is? So Frederico was with

1323
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, from seven to sixteen.

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01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 4: Heis me back in college.

1325
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 2: Came here with Todd Haley. Yeah, came here with Haley.

1326
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 2: He was associate head coach running back coach in eighteen,

1327
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: then offensive coordinator, and then became head coach in nineteen.

1328
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 2: Then he went to the Giants and was a tight

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01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: ends coach yep, and then for one year and then

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01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: senior offensive assistant interim offensive coordinator in twenty one. In

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01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: twenty two he goes back to college to South Carolina

1332
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Speaker 2: as a senior analyst, and today you will find him

1333
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 2: at North Carolina as your tight ends coach and run

1334
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 2: game coordinator at North Carolina, work under Mac Brown. Wow.

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Speaker 2: I always thought what was really interesting about him is

1336
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 2: because he played quarterback at Alabama. He never coached at Alabama, right, Yeah, Like,

1337
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 2: at no point when he's doing all this senior assistant stuff,

1338
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 2: like in the en Felly comes in or the in college.

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01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 2: He comes in at Glenville State, then LSU, then North

1340
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 2: Texas and Mississippi State. He's there for a while, then

1341
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 2: gets in with the Cowboys, and he just hung out

1342
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 2: in Arizona for a decade and then and now last

1343
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: couple of jobs have been back in college, but not

1344
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Speaker 2: not at Alabama.

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Speaker 4: I feel like Freddy could give a good nil speech

1346
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 4: to a young man trying to get him to come there.

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Speaker 2: Better. I just keep it to myself, all right. Coming

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Speaker 2: up next, Greg new sums availability from the podium. You

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Speaker 2: the ultimate game Day. It's cornerback Greg News after yesterday's

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01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,959
Speaker 2: practice on his rehab and recovery. Let's have a listen.

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Speaker 2: So when did you know that you'd be able to

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Speaker 2: get back by today?

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Speaker 5: I knew it the wholes on.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, everybody was saying six to eight weeks

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01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 10: I said, I'm Wolverine. I'll be back before that. For that,

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Speaker 10: I could have been back two weeks ago. You know,

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Speaker 10: I was just working hard to get out there, and yeah,

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Speaker 10: I knew I would be back.

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Speaker 5: Again. What would happen?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I was just set my college Northwestern, just doing

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01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 10: some running and like Rep. Seven of my running just

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Speaker 10: felt it pop and I was fine the next two days.

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Speaker 10: So I didn't think it was anything serious. Got my

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01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 10: MRI and they said tour, it's the plan. So I

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01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 10: know you said you planning on being back earlier than

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01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 10: the kind of diagnosis, But do you think you'll be

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Speaker 10: ready and physically accomanica or you a.

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Speaker 5: Fool go on to before a thousand percent?

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Speaker 11: So did you said it it early? You didn't think

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Speaker 11: it was that bad. So when you saw or heard

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Speaker 11: about the MRI being torn, where you're surprised or did

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01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 11: it get worse and you said, okay, actually it needs

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Speaker 11: surgery because it's so bad.

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Speaker 2: Nah.

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Speaker 10: I was surprised. Like I was jogging and doing I

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Speaker 10: n's and stuff before the surgery, so I thought.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't that serious.

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Speaker 10: When I got the MRI back and they told me

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Speaker 10: I need a surgery, I was just confused. But no,

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Speaker 10: obviously I didn't actually need surgery. It was one of

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Speaker 10: those things like I could choose and they said, if

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Speaker 10: I get surgery, I'll be able to have a chance

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Speaker 10: of making it back.

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Speaker 5: So I opted to do that.

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Speaker 2: Greg, I saw you like.

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Speaker 10: During training camps for working with Brandon Plans would be

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Speaker 10: on the cornerback.

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Speaker 6: Was kind of back palling and stuff.

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Speaker 2: They kind of walked me through some of the stuff you.

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Speaker 10: Were doing to made me stay in shape, and it just

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Speaker 10: kind of stay mentally locked in. Yeah, in shape. Uh,

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01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 10: that's hard. You know, you can't in great, great shape

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01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 10: unless you're out here running. So I was doing all

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01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 10: that I can, you know, just working with the strength

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01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 10: staff inside, just doing dB drills, just staying engaged in meetings.

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Speaker 10: You know, I look at everything as a blessing, like

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01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 10: me getting hurt. Obviously, I never want to get hurt.

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01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 10: But you know, we had guys like Cam getting more reps.

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01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 10: Miles Harden emerged as a as a steal of the draft,

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01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 10: so you know, guys like that getting being able to

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Speaker 10: get more reps, and me just helping and coaching along.

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Speaker 5: Like it was fun to see Greg. It just seemed like.

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Speaker 9: Every time you guys were out here, you could hear

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01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 9: you on the sidelines and see like how important was

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01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 9: that as far as being a part of you, staying

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01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 9: engaged with what was going on and just still being

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Speaker 9: vocal out here.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm always gonna do that. You know, teams first,

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01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 10: whether I'm hurt or not. You know, I feel like

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Speaker 10: I'm one of these leaders, one of the leaders on

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Speaker 10: the team. So I'm always gonna stay engaged, just try

1422
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 10: to keep the guys up, and you know, I always

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01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 10: just try to be the extra coach, extra you know,

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01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:55,680
Speaker 10: set of eyes for them, you know, when I'm not

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Speaker 10: on the field.

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Speaker 8: Oh are you and the other dv's gonna build and

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Speaker 8: what you guys do.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, We're we're gonna keep working every single day. You know,

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Speaker 10: we say we're the best in the world, so you know,

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Speaker 10: we gotta continue to prove that and I think we'll

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01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 10: we'll do that again. But you know, it starts every

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Speaker 10: single day. It starts Game one and it starts tomorrow.

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Speaker 10: So now that we you know, we got our guys

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Speaker 10: out there, we're we're just looking to grow with each other.

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Speaker 7: How about CD lamb uh Just in the nick of time,

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01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 7: he signs the big.

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Speaker 6: Blost watch through contract.

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Speaker 2: Are you excited about the fact.

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Speaker 5: That he's gonna be out there for this game? Ah?

1440
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 5: For sure. You know I'm a competitor.

1441
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 10: You know, any of aligns a lot in that slot,

1442
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 10: so I'll definitely be excited to go against him.

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Speaker 2: Good.

1444
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 8: Do your expectations for yourself change it all because uh,

1445
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 8: getting a little bit of a late start to the preseason.

1446
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 5: Nah.

1447
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 10: Never, same expectations, and my expectations are the same every year.

1448
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 10: It's just to try to do whatever I can to

1449
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,759
Speaker 10: help this team win, you know, whether that's special teams, outside, inside,

1450
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 10: whatever I need to do, I'll be willing to do

1451
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 10: it to help this team, you know, achieve our ultimate goal.

1452
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 2: How did you worry about Denzel?

1453
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,520
Speaker 9: I know that Denzel always does his research and he

1454
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 9: knows what's.

1455
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 2: Best for him. But do you worry about him with

1456
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: the fifth concussion?

1457
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 5: Uh?

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01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 10: Nah, I don't worry about him cause he doesn't worry

1459
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:14,160
Speaker 10: about it. You know, he's a warrior, he's a leader,

1460
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 10: and you know he knows his body better than you

1461
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 10: know what anybody you know could say about it.

1462
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Speaker 5: So he's confident.

1463
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 10: I'm confident too, and you know we're we're excited, you know,

1464
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 10: to hopefully get him back soon.

1465
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:25,759
Speaker 5: Greg.

1466
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Speaker 9: I know you you mentioned Miles there briefly, but it

1467
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 9: seemed like we got a look at his ballhok, and

1468
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 9: then see he's at different points throughout this camp, Like,

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01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 9: do you feel like he he had something different to

1470
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 9: this room? And I know you said you thought.

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Speaker 10: He was a steal of the draft obviously, Yeah, Nah,

1472
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,720
Speaker 10: he doesn't add anything different. He has the same that

1473
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 10: we all got, you know, the best in the world.

1474
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 10: He's a part of it. So you know, I definitely

1475
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 10: a hundred percent think he's he's a stealer draft. Like,

1476
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 10: I mean, you guys seen him, you know, in a game, uh,

1477
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 10: playing outside a little bit more. You've seen him at

1478
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 10: the joint practices, picking the ball off and doing uh,

1479
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 10: a lot of great things out there. So now we're

1480
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 10: just super proud of him and super excited to add him.

1481
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 5: To the room. That room.

1482
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 9: It seems like everybody that stuff's putting there comes out

1483
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 9: here and performs and performs on game.

1484
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 2: I mean, what is it about.

1485
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's just a standard we hold ourselves with and

1486
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,400
Speaker 10: it starts up top with uh, you know, coach Lynch.

1487
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 10: You know, he instills greatness all the time, like we

1488
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 10: we don't, we never lack, and we say all the

1489
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 10: time we expect the most from our best players. So

1490
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 10: if you watch goon Zel out there, me Martin, you know,

1491
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 10: we're all setting that example. So you know, when you

1492
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 10: come in and you see us doing things right and

1493
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 10: always practicing hard, you know, guys have to follow suit.

1494
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 10: So you know, whoever we add to this room, you know,

1495
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 10: they always for some reason end up ball. And we

1496
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 10: said the same thing all the time, like like Faye

1497
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 10: hicks Man that last game, he played unbelievable, like and

1498
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 10: and I think that's just just just Brandon Lynch just

1499
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 10: being a you know, best corners coach in the in

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Speaker 10: the NFL.

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Speaker 11: How did how did Brandy help.

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01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 2: You aspect of it?

1503
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 11: Like you see engaged with what's.

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Speaker 10: Yeah? You know he just always you know, helped me

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01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 10: to that same standard. You know, when I was out,

1506
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 10: I was in meetings even when they were you know

1507
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 10: at the Greenbrier, I was getting in the meetings as well.

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01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 10: And you know guys like Ward and MJ, they they

1509
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 10: always checking on me, making sure that my head space

1510
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 10: is good, making sure asking me questions, making sure I'm

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01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 10: still engaged so I think they did all of a

1512
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 10: great job was just keeping me engaged.

1513
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 5: This on the heels of it.

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01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 4: Looked to me like one of your bests and mini camps.

1515
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 2: I mean, you were just right south. Did you Do

1516
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 2: you feel like you've elevated your game this year a lot?

1517
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 10: Oh, for sure. And I think, honestly, it's the mental aspect.

1518
01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 10: I think, you know, I always hold myself to a

1519
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 10: high standard, but I think mentally, especially after that that

1520
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 10: last year, you know, we all have that just bad

1521
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 10: taste in our mouths from that playoff game. So I

1522
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,799
Speaker 10: think we all, you know, went into the off season

1523
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 10: with a with a mindset and a goal, and I

1524
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 10: think when everybody came back, I felt like as a

1525
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 10: group we had our best OTAs and you know, even

1526
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 10: just watching practice, I feel like the group did a

1527
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 10: unbelievable job during this training camp. So now it's time

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01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 10: to reinsert myself in there and just you know, continue

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01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 10: uh trending upwards.

1530
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 2: How do you how do you swear.

1531
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 3: That balance of last year where you guys were the

1532
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 3: best defense in the league for the entire season and

1533
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 3: it didn't in the way you want to.

1534
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 10: You know, I just feel like you you just find

1535
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 10: ways to get better. And for us, it was on

1536
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 10: being on the road. You know, at home we are unbelievable.

1537
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 10: On the road, we weren't so great. So just you know,

1538
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 10: finding ways to start faster, and I think we will

1539
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 10: do that. We got the right guys in the room,

1540
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 10: where you're older, where you're wiser.

1541
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 5: A lot of us.

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01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:39,839
Speaker 10: You know, it's our first time going to the playoffs,

1543
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 10: so you know, we are a little star struck, you know,

1544
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 10: in the sense of getting to the playoffs. So now

1545
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 10: I feel like since we've been there, uh, we'll be

1546
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 10: ready to go this next time.

1547
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: Why the home road splits were so dramatic.

1548
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 10: No, our crowd is amazing, you know, the Dog Pounds

1549
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 10: is the you know, best fan base in the world.

1550
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 10: So they give us a lot of energy, and you know,

1551
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 10: we just gotta find a way to bring our own energy.

1552
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 5: You know, when we get on a road good. I

1553
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 5: appreciate it all right.

1554
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:09,519
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Speaker 2: answered burning quarterback questions, including who is the greatest of

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1566
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Speaker 2: Here's how they went around and put this list together.

1567
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: Where did I see this? I had this down in

1568
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 2: terms of the breakdown of all of the This asked

1569
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 2: over one hundred NFL players rank quarterbacks according to a

1570
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: variety of criteria, including so these are NFL players results,

1571
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 2: including whether Mahomes, chasing his fourth Super Bowl title, is

1572
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: ready to supplant Tom Brady as the goat. Brady won

1573
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: seven championships, but he didn't win his fourth until his

1574
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 2: fifteenth season. Mahomes is entering his eighth season and attempting

1575
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 2: to win three in a row. Which is the job there?

1576
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 2: One AFC South player said, it's Brady. But if Mahomes

1577
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: three piece, that's a different story.

1578
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 3: By the way, I love the survey, which was granted

1579
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 3: anonymity of the players so they could respond kenly ask

1580
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 3: them to rank quarterbacks in the following categories top three

1581
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 3: current quarterbacks, rookie quarterback will have the most successful career,

1582
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 3: most overrated quarterback, most underrated quarterback, and then this one,

1583
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 3: which I think is it's hilarious that these are the

1584
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 3: categories biggest trash docking quarterback like that that is on

1585
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 3: the same level.

1586
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 2: Any of these other things. Yeah, on the goat debate,

1587
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 2: so here this is out broke down goat Brady versus Mahomes,

1588
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 2: and they did not have Montana. I mean, it's outrageous.

1589
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 3: It's an outrageous It's an outrageous emission.

1590
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 2: As a Brown's a Guyosa Brown Show obligatory autogram might

1591
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 2: be mentioned as well. Quite a bit of success there

1592
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 2: in that time job. But Brady got eighty five of

1593
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 2: the votes, Mahomes got seven. What will it take for

1594
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 2: this to become like the Jordan Lebron thing? Is it

1595
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 2: one more for Mahomes? He's got three, he's won two

1596
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 2: in a row. He wins three in a row and

1597
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 2: has a total of four, Like if for something were

1598
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 2: to happen in his career were to end, would he

1599
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,599
Speaker 2: be No. Four wouldn't be enough. He needs to get

1600
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 2: what's Brady six. So it's just even though football Montana's

1601
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 2: at four, Brady is seven. Brady's at seven. Yeah, it's

1602
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 2: a crazy number. But also the other thing that's that's interesting,

1603
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 2: and there's some nuance to the Brady conversation. And that's

1604
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 2: why I don't think it's just straightforward like titles in

1605
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 2: the same way that like Bill Russell has the most

1606
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 2: championships and so, but he's never in the conversation with

1607
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 2: Jordan and Lebron. Basketball is different. But yes, so I

1608
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,919
Speaker 2: think basketball would even titles would be even more important

1609
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 2: for one guy because one guy out of five can

1610
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 2: swing any You can swing a franchise. We've seen that

1611
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 2: with Lebron. Lebron's on a franchise, their contenders. When he's not,

1612
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 2: they're not quarterback. You gotta have some help. You can

1613
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 2: be tremendous, and if you don't have team around you,

1614
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 2: it ain't gonna work. It's the most important position in sport.

1615
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,640
Speaker 2: But here's the thing with Mahomes. Every single one of

1616
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 2: their Super Bowls, he's the best player on the field

1617
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 2: and the focus of them getting there. If he ain't there,

1618
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 2: they ain't it, yeah, I would say, And I don't

1619
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 2: think that's the true for Brady's first two or three.

1620
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 3: I think last year's team was much more of a

1621
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 3: defense running the ball team than it was like a

1622
01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 3: Mahomes team. That team was more similar, okay similar to

1623
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 3: the not quite the early Brady because.

1624
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: It was allowed to be that way though because of

1625
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 2: his greatness. They could have shortcomings on their offensive line,

1626
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 2: surecomings to a receiver because he could make up for it.

1627
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean he was a full seven hundred

1628
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,719
Speaker 3: yards off of any of the three previous seasons.

1629
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, who's ten.

1630
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 3: He was a full ten touchdowns off of any of

1631
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 3: the previous three seasons.

1632
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 2: And so the league reverted last year to passing wise

1633
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 2: across the board, the league rever everybody's just playing shell. Yeah.

1634
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 2: So just you didn't see the big numbers that you

1635
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 2: saw in previous years. Moms are the best I've ever

1636
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 2: seen do it in terms of everything that he can do.

1637
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: That stat I shared last month about when they're down

1638
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 2: seven and he's eight for eight in those scenarios in

1639
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 2: his career and the next best was Breeze and it

1640
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 2: was like fifty seven percent was fifty three percent.

1641
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:33,759
Speaker 3: In their three Super Bowl runs, he's thrown twenty three

1642
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:35,600
Speaker 3: touchdowns and three picks.

1643
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 2: It's pretty clutch. It, that's pretty pretty clutch. No, he's

1644
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 2: on a trajectory.

1645
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 3: It's just going to be about in the playoffs and

1646
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 3: they build it plays fifteen and three sixty eight percent completions.

1647
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 5: Uh.

1648
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 3: He averaged two hundred and eighty five yards a game, rating,

1649
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 3: one oh six, forty one touchdowns.

1650
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 2: Eight picks. See that's nuts. Six game winning drives, five

1651
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 2: fourth quarter comebacks. That's his PLAF career. That's playoff career. Brother. See, No,

1652
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 2: he's definitely nuts. Nuts, He's that's nuts.

1653
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 3: It's gonna be We're gonna get to a point and

1654
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 3: we're already at a point now where three of the

1655
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 3: four on Mount Rushmore are I think without debate, Brady

1656
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 3: Mahomes and Montana did.

1657
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 2: Mahomes push Manning out? And so then Manning's kind of

1658
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 2: in that conversation.

1659
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 3: Manning's in the That's why I said, I think the

1660
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 3: fourth one is a conversation because for Manning, your get

1661
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 3: your saying that you might actually truly have been the

1662
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 3: best ever to play the position, like period, but you

1663
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 3: do not have the postseason accolades of the others, and

1664
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 3: so you're the greatest regular season quarterback of all time.

1665
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 3: I mean maybe the best quarterback of all time. But

1666
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 3: that's going to hold him back.

1667
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, So then they had them rank the top three

1668
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:51,719
Speaker 2: current quarterbacks and those point totals Mahomes. I'm actually shocked

1669
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 2: that there are one hundred and seventy five people who

1670
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 2: didn't vote Mahomes number one. Agreed for one hundred and

1671
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 2: seventy five votes. Okay, yeah, Mahome received eighty seven first

1672
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 2: place votes. Of the one hundred and three, he received

1673
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 2: eighty seven first place well twelve second place votes. One

1674
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 2: player named three players but didn't rank them, so that's

1675
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,679
Speaker 2: how that happens. So that's how you get those numbers.

1676
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 2: But eighties only, so sixteen people said he's not the

1677
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 2: best quarterback in football. Lamar Jackson was second and Joe

1678
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 2: Burrow was third.

1679
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 3: On that two those in our division, all three in

1680
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 3: the AFC, and at the other top vote gators were

1681
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 3: Josh Allen.

1682
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 2: And Aaron Rodgers, also all in the AFC. All AFC guys, Yeah,

1683
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 2: Jackson's a tough talk, so no one takes I keep going.

1684
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 4: Back to your comment that if you're starting a franchise, no,

1685
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 4: because you're not going to hold you. Yeah, how you

1686
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 4: have to play. This is coming from players they have.

1687
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 2: There's the al he's a two time MVP. There's an

1688
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 2: incredible amount of respect for his skill set and talent,

1689
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 2: but it has not been proven to work in the postseason.

1690
01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 2: So there's like a hard seat. Like if they didn't

1691
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 2: get Kansas City last year at home in a game

1692
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 2: that should have featured they kensity one seventeen to ten,

1693
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 2: Like if you're not gonna get kick and they had

1694
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,600
Speaker 2: nobody from a home to throw to. If you're not

1695
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 2: getting Kansas City last year, then I don't know when

1696
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: you get him because they're gonnaun least Xavier Worthy this year.

1697
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 2: Run him four to two, like they cut Justin Ross,

1698
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:23,640
Speaker 2: they cut Kadarius Tony. I don't know. I to me,

1699
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 2: I don't know wh where would Jackson fall on If

1700
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 2: you were starting a franchise fifth sixth in there, at.

1701
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 3: Some point it would be like, Okay, we've got to

1702
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 3: take him. But you just know what you're what you're

1703
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 3: getting into in terms of the style of offense, you

1704
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 3: have to run in the limitations that that seemed to

1705
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 3: come with with him. I mean, he is a very

1706
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 3: it's too tight he is now and he's this age now.

1707
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 3: You have to think that his ability to maintain the

1708
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 3: style with which he has played that has a shelf life,

1709
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 3: just like we talked about a Dalvin Cook cadit. You

1710
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,440
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like you, it is very difficult

1711
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 3: to run for eight hundred yards one hundred and forty

1712
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 3: carries every single year as a quarterback. Like it's just

1713
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 3: eventually it's going to catch up with you.

1714
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 2: Next category, which rookie quarter will back will have the

1715
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 2: most successful career. Caleb Williams number one in this with

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01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 2: thirty four. Jadan Daniels was two at thirty and JJ

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01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 2: McCarthy was third with ten. Pennox and bo Nix also

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01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 2: receiving votes. It's amazing because you could argue that Caleb

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01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 2: Williams is in the best position a quarterback's been in

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01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 2: maybe since Andrew Luck and Jade Daniels is in a

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01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:44,759
Speaker 2: tough spot.

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01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,560
Speaker 3: He is people seem to they love him though I

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01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 3: love him. Yeah, that's a great example of a kid

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01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 3: who went to quarterback finishing school. So he starts out

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01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 3: at Arizona State and you don't know if he can

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01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 3: throw it, you don't know what he is. And then

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01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 3: he goes to LSU and he gets to play in

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01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 3: Brian Kelly's offense for two years and he gets to

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01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 3: play with that assortment of weaponry. And then he took

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01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 3: off and now now is beloved. I would not bet

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01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 3: against Caleb Williams.

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01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 4: You made the argument too, but by the time it's

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01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,640
Speaker 4: all said and done, I mean, Williams, I think we

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01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 4: can all agree probably has the highest ceiling. But he's

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01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 4: going to a team that hasn't had a quarterback since

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01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 4: ever ever that the two guys receiving boats could end

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01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:28,719
Speaker 4: up being the top two in this class Panics.

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01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 2: That's just how long is he gonna have to wait?

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01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 2: I like him. I mean, I think he's a really

1741
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,600
Speaker 2: good player. Nixt to spot is tough in Denver. Just

1742
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 2: with that, I just don't know, like what Champagne is

1743
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 2: so for I think Caleb Williams, I've said this since

1744
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 2: all camp, He's in the best spot a rookie quarterback's

1745
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 2: been in since Andrew Luck. And then I don't even

1746
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 2: be on that. I don't even know who else as

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01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback number one overall to land on a

1748
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:58,520
Speaker 2: roster that night. That the last The only possible comparison

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01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 2: is Luck. That's it, because they had the injury demanding

1750
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 2: otherwise and.

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01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 3: They were what Reggie and t Y Hilton who was

1752
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:06,799
Speaker 3: still quite good at that point.

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01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was I don't even this is ridiculous.

1754
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:11,719
Speaker 2: And then they end up with a Donesay too. Yeah,

1755
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:16,719
Speaker 2: I got them both. Like most overrated quarterback in the league.

1756
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 2: Number one vote getter is Josh Allen. That's interesting too,

1757
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 2: uh and Jalen Hurts are tied behind him.

1758
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts I get to I don't really yet. I

1759
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 3: feel like two is if anything kind of doesn't kind

1760
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 3: of feel I think.

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01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 2: Sometimes Unted, I think sometimes we can use underrated with

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01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 2: not likable. Okay that's my hunch.

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01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 4: Okay, So the one NFC West player said when voting

1764
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 4: for Allen too many turnovers. Since the started the two

1765
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 4: thousand and eight season, Allen's one hundred two turnovers lead

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01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 4: the NFL. Jared Goff is second with ninety and I'm

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01:24:56,080 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 4: sorry ninety six, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers bake Or

1768
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 4: Mayfield third with ninety one.

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01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 2: I don't know that anyone's asked to do more than Allen.

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01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed. I think that's a very fair point that

1771
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 3: you just made. I don't know that anybody is either.

1772
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 4: The other top vote getters, justin Herbert, come on, Like,

1773
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 4: look who he's been playing quarterback four. He's not over

1774
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:26,599
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence. He's turned the ball over a bit.

1775
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 2: And I think I think that's a difference between being

1776
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 2: not what we thought he would be versus being really good. Yeah,

1777
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 2: like every thought he'd be luck Yes, you know, and

1778
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 2: he you know, that urban thing really derailed.

1779
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have Brock Perdy.

1780
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 2: On here, but he's also in the next one. I

1781
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: think he's the leader, the leader in the next one.

1782
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 2: So I don't that's just I don't know. Sometimes that's jealousy.

1783
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 2: I think, do you guys know who the receivers are

1784
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,599
Speaker 2: in Buffalo? You Mike just had a fantasy draft.

1785
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 4: They drafted a Florida State kid.

1786
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 2: Kean Coleman, who was really good at FSU, but he

1787
01:25:57,320 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 2: was a second round pick. Yeah, Gabe Davis says he's there,

1788
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 2: He's not there. Where's he? I want to say, he's

1789
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 2: in Miami or jack Jacksonville, Jacksonville News in the South

1790
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 2: Cojube you Nick Curtis Samuel, So it's Curtis Samuel, Keon

1791
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 2: Coleman and Khalil behind behind that, it's Valdez Scantling mac Hollins, Like,

1792
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 2: what are we doing? Yeah, it's bad.

1793
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 4: They're just determined not to surround him with anything.

1794
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: How did they not get some receiving talent in there

1795
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 2: for him? It's pretty wild. Did they not have a

1796
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 2: first round pick this year? They must not have. There's

1797
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:35,600
Speaker 2: nobody in there two deep who was a first round er.

1798
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 2: Coleman was their first pick and he was a second

1799
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 2: rounder and he was good at FSU. But like, you're

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01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 2: gonna be the number one target. I know they think

1801
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 2: they're gonna get like they're gonna play a lot of

1802
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 2: tight end with Kincaid and Knocks.

1803
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 3: But Kaid's gonna beat right, A huge part of what

1804
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 3: they do, but huge. Yeah, he's gonna happen with you.

1805
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 2: Most underrated brock Perty number one on this. Stafford is

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01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 2: tied with him. Actually, Perty and Stafford both tied. I'm

1808
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 2: telling you, with Stafford and NFL players, if there's a vote.

1809
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: They love him. NFL players love Stafford. I'm surprised he

1810
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:02,479
Speaker 2: always have.

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01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 3: I'm surprised he didn't get any votes at all for

1812
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 3: Stafford in the terms of the in the best quarterback

1813
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 3: in the league. Actually, that surprised me.

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01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's beloved, That's what I mean. Yeah, players absolutely.

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01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 3: By the way, you know what's interesting about this list

1816
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 3: as well, is that and correct me if I'm wrong,

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01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 3: But I don't think I saw it that Like Dak

1818
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,400
Speaker 3: Prescott's that mentioned anywhere.

1819
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 2: He's in the underrated receiving votes, so it went. But

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01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 2: he's a right not top no no no perty. Stafford, Cousins, Goff,

1821
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:35,440
Speaker 2: Jordan Love, Bryce Young got seven votes for most underrated.

1822
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 2: That kid took a beating. Herbert Prescott, Jackson Hurts and

1823
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 2: Tua in the underrated as well. Biggest trash talkers on

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01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 2: this list according to players, Josh Allen wins pretty wide margin.

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01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 2: Bake is second, we knew that for sure, and Aaron

1826
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 2: Rodgers is third. I think that's just because Rogers didn't

1827
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 2: play last year.

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01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 3: Mahomes getting votes is absurd because we watched the Quarterback Show.

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01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 2: He doesn't track talks to anybody. No and he's so nice, like, yeah,

1830
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 2: it's none of it.

1831
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 4: I have seen videos of him talking though.

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01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it seems like he was saying maybe speaking

1833
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 2: nice things. You got it.

1834
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,720
Speaker 4: You've got to like really get him pod for him

1835
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:15,360
Speaker 4: to go off.

1836
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 2: Can you imagine if Bake like went thirteen and three,

1837
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 2: I mean like fourteen and three, how much he'd run

1838
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 2: his mouth like how he was at Oklahoma.

1839
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Jesus. I'm curious to see what they

1840
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 3: what they end up becoming this year.

1841
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 2: I like the under so much more to come. You

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01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 2: final fifty three. Those are your lessons of the day.

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01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 2: Next Monday, Labor Day is when you're gonna get a

1848
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 2: that'll be your team for the Dallas Cowboys. We've got

1849
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,599
Speaker 2: a couple of practices between now and then. Pay attention

1850
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 2: to left tackle. If we get some details on that,

1851
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 2: what coach has to say about that.

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01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 3: Yes, and I think that we'll have you know, various

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01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 3: updates that could happened prior to this, but I think yeah,

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01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 3: as of right now, Yeah, Monday is that'll be the day,

1855
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 3: and we'll hear from coach. And again I wouldn't read

1856
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 3: too much into the four quarterbacks. Deontae Foreman, I believe

1857
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 3: that he will be back. By the way, the Schultz

1858
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 3: report said, the Browns have never discussed trading or moving

1859
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 3: on from Jameis Winston. Cleveland is expected to make a

1860
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 3: quarterback move today, but it won't involve Winston. Believe we

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01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 3: had that and it's uh. And it's not gonna involve

1862
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 3: dtr either. No, no, unless somebody sings are wild.

1863
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 2: Some of them knock somebody socks off, right. This from

1864
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 2: Bengals cam Jamar Chase walks in after stretch in a

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01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 2: white T shirt. Did not participate after Zach said yesterday

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Speaker 2: that he would so.

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01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 4: Trouble in paradise.

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