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Speaker 1: hanss Got Heroes, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler and you heard
Speaker 1: her voice, Colleen Who and Colleen Can I just say
Speaker 1: I am thrilled that you're here?
Speaker 2: Me too?
Speaker 1: I mean I I was worried. You went up yesterday
Speaker 1: the Air Force Thunderbirds. These are the guys. These are
Speaker 1: the dudes that do the flyover before the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: And you went up in there to grab some g's
Speaker 1: to take some G some of the G power away
Speaker 1: from Triple G.
Speaker 3: Uh huh?
Speaker 1: Did you go more than Triple G?
Speaker 4: You don't understand G power if you think that it's
Speaker 4: an inexhaustible resource.
Speaker 1: There's g's for everyone.
Speaker 2: How many.
Speaker 1: Geez, Colleen, did.
Speaker 3: You go I pulled nine G nine.
Speaker 1: Tripled your G output?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, Okay, let's be thrown down. This was
Speaker 5: the coolest experience of my entire life and nothing will
Speaker 5: ever top it. So I don't know now where that
Speaker 5: leaves me mentally, but I'm still processing the whole thing
Speaker 5: and it was the most amazing experience.
Speaker 1: Wait, what does nine g's mean?
Speaker 4: Are you worried that your husband, John Gonzales, saw you
Speaker 4: say it was the best day of your life and
Speaker 4: five Like, I've spent a lot of days with her,
Speaker 4: but this wasn't one of them.
Speaker 5: No, John was so excited about it. I don't even
Speaker 5: know how to describe what yesterday was like. First of all,
Speaker 5: I had to do so many hours of like briefing
Speaker 5: and training, Like as soon as I got there, they
Speaker 5: were teaching me how to cut lines on a parachute.
Speaker 5: I had a pocket knife and my jumpsuit in case
Speaker 5: we had to eject.
Speaker 3: I had to do all sorts of like.
Speaker 5: Egress training, and they teach you how to breathe to
Speaker 5: handle the g's because if you don't breathe through it,
Speaker 5: you'll pass out immediately. So I had like I had
Speaker 5: a G suit on, which was really cool because it's
Speaker 5: like plugged into.
Speaker 3: The plane, so it's automatic.
Speaker 5: It just starts compressing when you start pulling g's and
Speaker 5: you have to Basically, they were like, if you're going
Speaker 5: to pass out, if you're not breathing right, you lose
Speaker 5: your color vision first, and then you start to get
Speaker 5: the tunnel and the tunnel will close in until you
Speaker 5: black out.
Speaker 1: And when we went up, I've seen the top Gun sequel.
Speaker 1: I'm aware of how it works.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're there, pull up, pull up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was watching that and very closely. There was
Speaker 5: all sorts of like codes that we had, like ease
Speaker 5: if I was feeling sick. There was a gangload in
Speaker 5: case there's a fire in the cockpit and you have
Speaker 5: to go full like.
Speaker 3: Oxygen, bailout, bailout, bailout as a.
Speaker 5: Jet egress, egress egress, there's like a canopy thing that
Speaker 5: flies off. So we go up and there he's like, Okay,
Speaker 5: we're gonna let's do a G warm up. So we're
Speaker 5: just gonna do like the human body essentially, I learned
Speaker 5: this yesterday. Can handle four to five g's and then
Speaker 5: after that you have to breathe through it, and so
Speaker 5: we did five g's and I lost my color vision.
Speaker 5: The tunnel started to close, and I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: not on this first thing we're doing. And so I
Speaker 5: tried really hard and I like did the breathing and
Speaker 5: I was able to reverse the tunnel and come out
Speaker 5: of it, and I was fine.
Speaker 3: We did all sorts of tricks. They were doing spins.
Speaker 5: Loops, barrel rolls, we were flying upside down over like
Speaker 5: the snow capped mountains.
Speaker 3: It was so cool.
Speaker 5: And then we did nine g's and I feel like
Speaker 5: I've accomplished the most insane thing of my life, from
Speaker 5: not passing out, not throwing up. And to make it
Speaker 5: all even crazier, my lucky number is eight, and I
Speaker 5: went up with Thunderbird eight, so it was eight on
Speaker 5: the plane and his call sign was triple M.
Speaker 3: How about that triple G. This is so perfect. It
Speaker 3: was so fun.
Speaker 6: Wait a minute, you at some point you lose color vision? Yeah,
Speaker 6: are you seen in black and white?
Speaker 7: Then?
Speaker 1: What is it? What is that?
Speaker 5: That's basically the oxygen is not going like the blood flow,
Speaker 5: and the oxygen is not.
Speaker 3: Going to where essentially exactly.
Speaker 5: So then once I was able to reverse the tunnel vision,
Speaker 5: then my color vision came back and it was fine.
Speaker 3: I was so disoriented after the flight.
Speaker 5: Though I did not expect it to be a full
Speaker 5: body workout, I was completely drenched in I am so
Speaker 5: sore today because you have to tense up your whole
Speaker 5: lower body and do all of these like breathing exercises.
Speaker 5: And when I woke up this morning, it felt like
Speaker 5: I had been on a week long bender where I
Speaker 5: only drank and did all sorts of drugs, and I felt.
Speaker 3: And mind you, I went to bed like.
Speaker 1: A summer of Connie.
Speaker 3: Maybe not even like that. I've never experienced.
Speaker 5: I was so hungover feeling this morning, and I was
Speaker 5: in bed last night at eight forty five and did
Speaker 5: not have one drink. And I still feel like a
Speaker 5: little off. I have my the oxygen since I had
Speaker 5: it up at one hundred percent. They said for a
Speaker 5: couple of days, the oxygen will have to escape from
Speaker 5: my head so I'll get crackling in my ears.
Speaker 3: So I'm doing a lot of.
Speaker 5: Snap crackle pop right now and my head feels a
Speaker 5: little funny.
Speaker 3: But I made it, and I did it, and it
Speaker 3: was so coold.
Speaker 1: Oh, we're very proud of thank you. I am.
Speaker 4: These are the guys that are going to be doing
Speaker 4: it before the game went Yeah, the same guys.
Speaker 3: Yes, these are the same pilots that are going to
Speaker 3: do the fly over.
Speaker 5: And they fly like eighteen inches apart doing all of
Speaker 5: these tricks, and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, give a couple more feet.
Speaker 5: I don't understand how when you hit like turbulence, how
Speaker 5: you guys aren't hitting each other wing.
Speaker 1: Not just being pulled right off the craft.
Speaker 5: And it was so interesting because they said, because they
Speaker 5: are flying so close together, they all hit the turbulence
Speaker 5: at the same time, so they moved together too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like what if that doesn't happen one day? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just once.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Everyone's dead. Mark, how are you? And Colleen? That is
Speaker 1: please don't do it again. I just was very stressful
Speaker 1: hearing my.
Speaker 3: Dad was there.
Speaker 1: Air Force here and that's great. That is unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I think I have to join the Air Force.
Speaker 1: Mark, how are you? By the way, I have about
Speaker 1: a fourth of my voice. Yeah, what is going on?
Speaker 1: You drove here? Yes? Immediately like those Actually we got
Speaker 1: the text that you were in Barstow last night. Barstow.
Speaker 6: Barstow is literally halfway between Los Angeles and Las Vegas.
Speaker 6: Unless it is rain from like the deep heavens and
Speaker 6: at one point snowing, then it's like three hours and
Speaker 6: a half. But like, got to a hotel, fell asleep
Speaker 6: within five minutes, woke up, came here. It was a
Speaker 6: very smooth trip. In fact, got here hours before the show.
Speaker 6: And you know, not much else to report except on working,
Speaker 6: drinking lots of tea.
Speaker 1: That's good, and we got to get you through the
Speaker 1: next four episodes here from Las Vegas. Of course, here
Speaker 1: for Super Bowl fifty eight Chiefs forty nine ers. We're
Speaker 1: going to get into the game in a minute. I
Speaker 1: just want to I want to say for the listeners,
Speaker 1: this is a very special week where, like I said,
Speaker 1: we have this beautiful setup that iHeart has been kind
Speaker 1: enough to give us. I feel like we got some
Speaker 1: juice here great looking on the floor at Radio Row,
Speaker 1: we got is this real marble? I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm impressed.
Speaker 4: I saw Jerry Rice walk by just a few minutes
Speaker 4: ago and he kind of looked up longingly at like, wow,
Speaker 4: my set.
Speaker 1: Was not that nice. I had a great joy Rice
Speaker 1: moment on the set right next to us. I was
Speaker 1: speaking with our friend mj Acosta, and MJ knows everybody,
Speaker 1: so Jered not Jera. Jerry rolls in with his contingency
Speaker 1: and says Hi to MJ. They exchange pleasantries, know each
Speaker 1: other somehow, and uh uh, and then he looks at
Speaker 1: me and he was like, am I supposed to know
Speaker 1: who this guy is? He just stuck out his paw
Speaker 1: and we shook hands and I was like, yeah, all right, Joy,
Speaker 1: I interviewed you once in twenty eleven and Andy Fenlon's office.
Speaker 3: Oh and he remembered.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yeah, of course no, he didn't remember it,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler because of Super Bowl Super Bowl week, we
Speaker 1: are we are a show that's always innovating. It's how
Speaker 1: we win awards. It's it's we just did win an award.
Speaker 1: What award was it?
Speaker 6: Again?
Speaker 1: Greg?
Speaker 4: It was the Sports Podcast Awards given out in the
Speaker 4: in the UK.
Speaker 1: Yes, and what an incredible achievement by around the NFL.
Speaker 1: And we were just nominated for the Best NFL Podcast
Speaker 1: and the iHeartMedia Awards, which I believe they'll be sending us.
Speaker 1: I'm asked yet, but we'll see the competition's pretty rough there.
Speaker 1: It's the best sports podcasts. They just did about seventy
Speaker 1: billion downloads Kelsey Show, Who's that? Who's that in there? Levatard?
Speaker 1: Who's that guy? Also? Uh uh the talk commentator got
Speaker 1: the part of my take. Of course. That's one where
Speaker 1: it feels okay that we're just kind of in the group.
Speaker 1: It feels good to be in. It feels nice to
Speaker 1: be nominated. But the reason why we are nominated because
Speaker 1: we continue to innovate. We always roll out different you know,
Speaker 1: satellite programs, and we have a great one debuting today
Speaker 1: with Mark Sessler and uh, you know you've won awards
Speaker 1: for this guy gets it. I mean that we all know.
Speaker 1: I don't like to talk about it, but there have
Speaker 1: been multiple you never bring it up. But we have another. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have another offshoot that I think could be the
Speaker 1: Frasier to Cheers coming up in just a little bit.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some guests coming by and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Mark Stage and we're gonna go into Mark's little
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Speaker 8: I think Cleveland Brown's spoil All pros stars, Miles Garrett
Speaker 8: the presumptive or possible defensive Player of the Year, we'll
Speaker 8: find out on Thursday, and NFL Honors and Star cornerback
Speaker 8: Denzel Ward sit down with Mark Sessler and Mark Sessler
Speaker 8: alone just in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Mark, I.
Speaker 6: Will say, these Super Bowl weeks like things happen to
Speaker 6: you because everything's happening in a flurry, in like a
Speaker 6: a like a visual snowstorm, and then suddenly you're on
Speaker 6: a plane home, like having just gotten here a couple
Speaker 6: hours ago, and now this is happening. And this was
Speaker 6: just this plan was just hatched this morning, and there
Speaker 6: was some back and forth on how it should look,
Speaker 6: and like, uh, I'm just praying it goes well.
Speaker 1: That's how I am.
Speaker 4: Anxiety from one hundreds of miles away over text.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be a little different than some people that
Speaker 6: you'd interview. I mean even from like an NFL perspective,
Speaker 6: like Miles Garrett is a top five NFL star, and
Speaker 6: it's like I've created some questions that I don't know
Speaker 6: how they will go with these two figures.
Speaker 3: So have you scribbled your questions on over there.
Speaker 6: Well, there have been some technical issues, so I put
Speaker 6: it on a little nineteen eighty nine piece of paper
Speaker 6: from the Cosmopolitan Hotel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's coming up in just a little bit.
Speaker 1: But before we get to that, why don't we open
Speaker 1: up Super Bowl Week here from Mandalay Bay with one
Speaker 1: big thought and you know, listen, this is this is
Speaker 1: a huge, enormous stage, enormous little francessa enormous stage for
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid. I mean, think about this. So
Speaker 1: I did some research on this. So the standard, of
Speaker 1: course is Brady and Belichick and they won six together.
Speaker 1: Paul Brown and Otto Graham won seven, but that's different
Speaker 1: AAFL four three in the NFL with the Browns who
Speaker 1: are going to be on the show, and just a
Speaker 1: bit the Faces of the Browns defense with Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi and Bart star Star won five titles together.
Speaker 1: But some of that, of course predates Super Bowl as well,
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl era which started in sixty seven. I
Speaker 1: believe Chuck Noll and Terry Bradshaw they won four Allis
Speaker 1: and Sid Luckman won four for the Bears. Those are championships,
Speaker 1: but that's again pre super Bowl. So on the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl era, Bill Walsh, Joe Montana, they produced three and
Speaker 1: Brady and Belichick six, And I'm thinking about those two combos,
Speaker 1: and now it's Reid and Mahomes and they have Mahomes
Speaker 1: been in the league seven years and he's been the
Speaker 1: starter for six years, and they've been to six AFC
Speaker 1: title games. This is their fourth super Bowl and they're
Speaker 1: going for their third Super Bowl championship. And I can't
Speaker 1: You just don't know, Greg, you're you're a Patriots historian
Speaker 1: of their big run. The gap between the last pre
Speaker 1: third and fourth titles, yes, how long was ten years?
Speaker 1: Ten years. So the idea that we could just pencil
Speaker 1: in Mahomes and the Chiefs with Reid to get back
Speaker 1: next year or the year after, No like it. During
Speaker 1: over the course of a career, even Brady and Belichick,
Speaker 1: the standard bearers, they went a long gap before winning
Speaker 1: and starting that second run. So you got to make
Speaker 1: good while the good is there to be made, winning
Speaker 1: this one, getting the third one in the bag with
Speaker 1: another ten to twelve years of his career ahead of him,
Speaker 1: and who knows how long Reid is ready to go on,
Speaker 1: but he's not looking to retire. Based on what he's
Speaker 1: been saying this week, it's such an opportunity for them.
Speaker 1: They're already legends, but to enter that different stratosphere of
Speaker 1: all time greats, and we're here for it. We're kind
Speaker 1: of lucky because as difficult it was for me to
Speaker 1: watch the Patriots up close the way we got to
Speaker 1: do in that second half of their run, to go
Speaker 1: from Brady to Mahomes, to see two of these legends,
Speaker 1: all time greats, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 4: I have tried to not take greatness for granted because,
Speaker 4: like a lot of people, I was disappointed the Chiefs
Speaker 4: made it to this point.
Speaker 1: I wanted fresh blood.
Speaker 4: I wanted it to be the Bills finally getting over
Speaker 4: the hump, or the Ravens and Lamar for the first time.
Speaker 4: That would be exciting, And as we've gotten closer to
Speaker 4: the super Bowl, it's like, don't be bored with greatness.
Speaker 4: I think what you said was perfect because I think
Speaker 4: about Andy Reid a lot in terms of his trajectory
Speaker 4: and when he was with the Eagles, I thought he
Speaker 4: was the best offensive coach in the league.
Speaker 1: As much as Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 4: I think in the last ten years, I thought Andy
Speaker 4: Reid changed football, Like I thought he was a Hall
Speaker 4: of Famer before he won his first Super Bowl. He
Speaker 4: was that good a coach, but he couldn't quite get
Speaker 4: over the hump in terms of winning the super Bowl
Speaker 4: with the Eagles to see that guy paired with Mahomes,
Speaker 4: which there's no comparison for Mahomes. I mean you're saying, Okay,
Speaker 4: this puts him in a certain class. In a certain way.
Speaker 4: Mahomes is in his own class. There is no quarterback
Speaker 4: remotely similar in terms of their first six or six years,
Speaker 4: just in terms of the individual accolades, is individual excellence,
Speaker 4: just how great he is and the team's success. He
Speaker 4: is the greatest player in terms of his first six
Speaker 4: or seven years. So for those two, his first year
Speaker 4: is the starter as a start, like he was immediate
Speaker 4: he was he was the best player in the league.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, how about you Mark, get us going
Speaker 1: with yours.
Speaker 6: One big thought, it's on the other side, it's Kyle
Speaker 6: Shanahan because to me, he's the great what if coach
Speaker 6: he lost twenty eight to three, biggest stage possible. We
Speaker 6: were just here a couple of years ago in this
Speaker 6: same matchup. These two teams are quite different, and yet
Speaker 6: the Niners had a lead in that game and fell
Speaker 6: apart when it mattered most.
Speaker 1: And in general, this is someone that you.
Speaker 6: Could look at say he could have five or six
Speaker 6: Super Bowls if things have gone differently. He's lost multiple
Speaker 6: NFC title games and it's tough to get back, but
Speaker 6: he does. He has brought this Niners team back years years,
Speaker 6: years in a row, and yet this feels like a
Speaker 6: different team to me, just because you're getting the quarterback
Speaker 6: play you wanted. No matter what you say about the
Speaker 6: brock Purty situation and experience, He's done fine by The
Speaker 6: Niners have done everything that a Kyle Shanahan quarterback be
Speaker 6: asked to do. But it is a top heavy, weapons
Speaker 6: rich offense that you don't know who to protect, who
Speaker 6: to stop. And I think this is kyleee Shanahan's chance.
Speaker 6: And it's like, I just feel if this doesn't happen
Speaker 6: for them, that the Kyle Shanahan legacy, you know, like
Speaker 6: Mike Shanahan went years until he finally won those two
Speaker 6: with Elway, Elway went obviously years, losing multiple Super Bowls
Speaker 6: Bowls before winning two and neither one. Elway retires but
Speaker 6: Mike Shanahan never got back to those heights ever. Again,
Speaker 6: that's your lesson from your own father that even if
Speaker 6: you get there and you win, two might be the crown.
Speaker 6: One might be the crown, and to lose a third
Speaker 6: Super Bowl one as an offensive coordinator this weekend would
Speaker 6: just be crushing. I think it just takes so much
Speaker 6: resilience from not just him, but everyone else to get back,
Speaker 6: and there is a fair amount of weight I think
Speaker 6: on certain players that we here last time that feel
Speaker 6: that were the Chiefs. To me, it's not house money
Speaker 6: for everything you just said, it matters so much, and
Speaker 6: it's like I just watching a little bit of like
Speaker 6: Opening Night Media Night that like, the Chiefs feel kind
Speaker 6: of loose to me, not that the Niners feel butt tight,
Speaker 6: but the Chiefs just feel kind of like they've been
Speaker 6: here and loose, And I just wonder if it gets
Speaker 6: into one of these key fourth quarter situations, like which
Speaker 6: team do you trust to pull it out?
Speaker 1: Shanahan, I do say.
Speaker 6: I do think one thing after what happened last week
Speaker 6: in the NFC Title Game, defense fell apart in the
Speaker 6: first half. You're down by a ton. That was a
Speaker 6: different type of win for the Niners. I'm kind of
Speaker 6: glad that happened for them. It was instructive. Colleen, your
Speaker 6: big thought, Okay, My.
Speaker 5: One big thought is also about one of the coaches
Speaker 5: involved in this game, but I'm going to go with
Speaker 5: Steve Wilkes. I think that his performance in this game
Speaker 5: and the way that this game goes could really change
Speaker 5: his trajectory in the NFL. Because everyone is talking about
Speaker 5: spags this game. Everyone's talking about Shanahan and Andy Reid,
Speaker 5: but Steve Wilkes against Andy Reid, Like, think about all
Speaker 5: of the Niners dcs that have gotten head coaching jobs
Speaker 5: in the NFL, Robert Sala, Demico Ryans. If he has
Speaker 5: a big performance against Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes on
Speaker 5: the biggest of all stages, he's going to set himself
Speaker 5: up for a potential head coaching job in the future.
Speaker 1: Big yep, big one. And that's been cottage Industry DC
Speaker 1: for the Niners to get a gig, and it hasn't
Speaker 1: been always a smooth ride this season for them, but
Speaker 1: we'll see Greg close it out.
Speaker 4: One big thought, My big thought is more about where
Speaker 4: we are right now to just like take a moment
Speaker 4: and realize we got C. J. Stroud standing over here
Speaker 4: in the Las Vegas like in Mandala, and it all
Speaker 4: seems normal now. And this show is presented by DraftKings,
Speaker 4: and we've gotten used to that over the last couple
Speaker 4: of years, but it's freaking crazy. Five years ago, actually
Speaker 4: seven years ago now twenty seventeen, Roger Goodell is quoted
Speaker 4: saying we're not changing our position as it relates to
Speaker 4: sports gambling. We don't think it's a positive thing like
Speaker 4: ten plus years ago, And he was asked about that
Speaker 4: this week he says, I think it's bad for the
Speaker 4: sport because he was worried about how people would question
Speaker 4: the integrity of the game and as it relates to gambling.
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's really happened.
Speaker 4: We're hearing all the jokes about the scripts and stuff
Speaker 4: like that, but I don't think it's really related to gambling.
Speaker 4: But it's just a totally different world and I don't
Speaker 4: know exactly how it's going to go. But the fact
Speaker 4: that the NFL has completely embraced Vegas to the point
Speaker 4: where they sort of fast forwarded that giving them a
Speaker 4: Super Bowl. They had to prepare for the Super Bowl
Speaker 4: because New Orleans backed out faster than any city ever has,
Speaker 4: like less than two years, and we're here and there's
Speaker 4: NFL slot machines and there's everything. It's just freaking crazy
Speaker 4: because at one point I was like a seventeen year
Speaker 4: old kid whose two favorite things in the world were
Speaker 4: weed in sports.
Speaker 1: Gambling, and I would have never troubled.
Speaker 4: I would have never imagined the world has changed where
Speaker 4: well one has changed quite a bit because of our employment.
Speaker 4: Like I would have never I would I would have never.
Speaker 1: Still a heavy drug.
Speaker 4: No, no, absolutely, that's died down relatively, but it's still
Speaker 4: a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3: Like we should really dive into that.
Speaker 1: But the fact that we're living in.
Speaker 4: This world where where both of those things are legal
Speaker 4: and they're encouraged that they are funding a lot of
Speaker 4: what's going on here, and I think we're in this
Speaker 4: weird sort of in between. There's been a lot of
Speaker 4: laws in the UK that have kind of pulled back
Speaker 4: some of the regulate like it's been an industry that's
Speaker 4: been regulated a lot more, and right now we're just
Speaker 4: kind of in the wild west where like anything goes.
Speaker 1: I think we'll look back at.
Speaker 4: This time as like, wow, that was that was kind
Speaker 4: of crazy everything that happened back then.
Speaker 1: We understand why this has been a remarkable development for
Speaker 1: you and all of us. No doubt.
Speaker 4: Although I did stop, you know, gambling well before I
Speaker 4: came to this, uh, this place in the NFL.
Speaker 1: We got to stress safe. It was too stressful. I
Speaker 1: just looked over my right shoulder and the enormous, enormous
Speaker 1: superstar uh for a certain team out of Cleveland is
Speaker 1: ready to join us. So we're gonna take a break,
Speaker 1: and when we return the debut, I'm watching them to
Speaker 1: the latest spin off of the Around the NFL Universe.
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler lead the way, our friend, and then we'll
Speaker 1: be back on the other side of it. We shall
Speaker 1: do it, all right, be right back now it's time
Speaker 1: for a trip to march.
Speaker 6: Man McGregor, all right, everyone, welcome back to the Man Cave.
Speaker 1: Two very special guests today.
Speaker 6: We have got two actually huge NFL stars from the
Speaker 6: same team, teammates Miles Garrett, possible defensive player of the year.
Speaker 6: We'll find out this week. Pro Bowler, Pro Bowl cornerback
Speaker 6: Denzil Award. Incredible season, this guy this year. The guys,
Speaker 6: I want to just ask quickly, like the immense change
Speaker 6: between last year's Browns the defense and what happened this
Speaker 6: year under Jim Schwartz. You know, that's why he's up
Speaker 6: for potential Assistant Coach of the Year while you guys
Speaker 6: are up for all these awards. What was the difference? Like,
Speaker 6: how did with so many of the same players, how
Speaker 6: did it shift so quickly?
Speaker 9: Man, it's so much I can say, so much I
Speaker 9: can say about coach Schwartz. I think just his attention
Speaker 9: to detail was a key difference. Just being in the
Speaker 9: meeting rooms and him being able to coach us all
Speaker 9: and take us through what's all expective expected of all
Speaker 9: of us, and just the energy out the field. I mean,
Speaker 9: you've seen us out there having all these handshakes and
Speaker 9: celebrating everything. I feel that stuff played a huge part
Speaker 9: in our success this year, and he was one of
Speaker 9: the key reasons as to why that was.
Speaker 7: How about you, I mean, we're main things is you know,
Speaker 7: he always preaches about celebrating with your teammates. No swaggery
Speaker 7: and badassy, No keeping that that attention of detail off
Speaker 7: of what he's you know he said before, no we
Speaker 7: were now always in the meeting room. He always led
Speaker 7: you know, the meetings. You know himself. You know he
Speaker 7: always went through each position, no detailing what each guy
Speaker 7: is gonna do. And know it might have been no
Speaker 7: down to nitty gritty with their own position coaches, but
Speaker 7: you know he was always and everything that we did
Speaker 7: making sure that it was it was just how he
Speaker 7: wanted it. But that energy that you see on the field,
Speaker 7: it's also no couple with the energy that he has
Speaker 7: every day, that passionate he shows every day, and that
Speaker 7: that kind of stuff is it is contagious.
Speaker 6: When you hit the league, it was popular to talk
Speaker 6: about the fact that you were that you were a
Speaker 6: poet off the field, that you practice poetry, that words
Speaker 6: matter to you. Could you give me a few words
Speaker 6: to describe your teammate Denzil Award.
Speaker 1: A few words, lockdown, relentless. I like that. How about
Speaker 1: in reverse.
Speaker 6: I'm not suggesting that you write poetry algraphy, but you
Speaker 6: could just use the same exercise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 9: I'll say Miles is an electric I'll say electrifying is
Speaker 9: one of the key words that pops out when I
Speaker 9: think of Miles.
Speaker 1: Get electrifying and dominant.
Speaker 6: I like that, you know, so one of the reasons
Speaker 6: that I'm We've got a number of people on the show,
Speaker 6: but I have been a Browns fans going back to
Speaker 6: nineteen eighty six. So you know the Marty Schottenheimer's, the
Speaker 6: Bernie Kozars, the Frank Minnafield's Handford Dixon's Clay Matthews of
Speaker 6: the world.
Speaker 1: This defense was different to me.
Speaker 6: There was a bit of a controversy I thought early
Speaker 6: on in the year when they put Brownie the Elf
Speaker 6: back at midfield, and there is I don't know why
Speaker 6: people had such a reaction. I think it's historical, goes
Speaker 6: back to the earliest Browns teams. I would ask you personally, though,
Speaker 6: and I'll start with you, Miles, like elves in general,
Speaker 6: do you believe that at some point on this earth,
Speaker 6: like a mythical creature like an elf actually existed or
Speaker 6: does that not sit well with you?
Speaker 7: Do I believe that I have this, So I can't
Speaker 7: particularly say that I believe too strongly in it. But
Speaker 7: maybe I just need to need someone to make me
Speaker 7: a believer.
Speaker 6: All right, Elves, your take, see what exactly is a elf? Well,
Speaker 6: I mean, you're looking at one at the fifty yard
Speaker 6: line during each of these games, but it is typically,
Speaker 6: you know, a being that I believe uses invisibility is
Speaker 6: good with the bow and arrow existed in you know,
Speaker 6: in the woods typically, So.
Speaker 7: Is that a wood elf or we talked about high
Speaker 7: elf dark l I.
Speaker 1: Think that it runs the whole gamut.
Speaker 6: I mean, if you get into I'm not you know,
Speaker 6: I'm sort of an at fringe elf individual. But like
Speaker 6: the fact that I think some people thought it doesn't
Speaker 6: represent a tough, you know, football player, Well, there's a
Speaker 6: lot of things happening with elves that could cause a
Speaker 6: problem for the Ravens or Steelers, I think, depending on
Speaker 6: some of their cars.
Speaker 1: So we'll leave it out.
Speaker 6: We'll leave that right there at that, So I did
Speaker 6: I had a question always about like when I you
Speaker 6: can tell that I probably played football one point in
Speaker 6: my life way back when, but I we would have
Speaker 6: these pregame meals where like some data the grill would
Speaker 6: create like immense amount of food and we go out
Speaker 6: and we all just pig out, and then forty minutes
Speaker 6: later you're out getting your butt kicked by Wilton High
Speaker 6: School because you just want to be taking a nap
Speaker 6: at that point, like what do you each and eat
Speaker 6: and ingest from the morning you wake up until like
Speaker 6: the one pm kickoff.
Speaker 1: What goes into your body.
Speaker 7: A smoothie, smoothie and water. You keep it light SMOOTHI water,
Speaker 7: Gator light.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Similar.
Speaker 9: I'm not a big eater. Come gain day, I'm drinking
Speaker 9: a smoothie. Probably eat some fruit banana and that's about it.
Speaker 9: I don't eat too nothing too big. No.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 6: So you're here for Bounty and I love Bounty good product.
Speaker 1: It has helped me at in my house often. Like,
Speaker 1: how about for you?
Speaker 6: Has there been a situation, I don't know, maybe some
Speaker 6: sort of major fiasco in your own household or life
Speaker 6: where Bounty has saved the day for you?
Speaker 7: I mean, I got dogs, man, there's all kind of
Speaker 7: fiasco's happening. So Bounties come to save the day multiple times.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you use the product that you're pitching. I
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Speaker 9: I Mean I have parties all the time with my
Speaker 9: family and everything, so it's always a mess being made.
Speaker 9: Come party, tom So, Bounty definitely says the day when
Speaker 9: when using that.
Speaker 6: Okay, just a couple more Denzel for you. Do you
Speaker 6: believe that Steelers fans have ever read a book?
Speaker 5: Too?
Speaker 9: I believe still there's fans ever read a book. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I'm sure they read a.
Speaker 1: Book here and there.
Speaker 6: You know that sounds about some point, Yeah, sounds about right.
Speaker 6: Last one for both of you. You know, I think
Speaker 6: this was one of the most surprising seasons. And it's
Speaker 6: the Joe Flakho of it all. It's you playing your
Speaker 6: best football of all time, the teammate in general, I
Speaker 6: mean just the way that the Browns came together. I
Speaker 6: think for Browns fans as unusual. They've been through a
Speaker 6: lot of ups and downs. Kevin Stefancy, Coach of the
Speaker 6: Year candidate, it was really joyful to watch down the stretch.
Speaker 6: But then it ends the way it does, and obviously
Speaker 6: I would just what is your goal? Where do you
Speaker 6: want to be a year from now, when when we're
Speaker 6: sitting here at Super Bowl Week? What is what are
Speaker 6: the Cleveland Browns saying to their fans At that point
Speaker 6: you'll be.
Speaker 7: Talking about us on the radio and you won't be
Speaker 7: able to have us sitting here. We'll be preparing for
Speaker 7: a game.
Speaker 1: No more elevant conversations a year from now.
Speaker 7: Well, maybe the no post game we're talking we have
Speaker 7: a trophy in the hands, or maybe a bottle of something.
Speaker 7: We're celebrating a win.
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 9: That's the ultimate goal is to get to where the
Speaker 9: Chief Center forty nine ers are playing right now. So
Speaker 9: that's what we're gonna work hard to do this all
Speaker 9: season and come back better than last year.
Speaker 6: All right, good luck, thanks for stopping by, and we
Speaker 6: appreciate it.
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Speaker 6: It's like you when you're dealing with like sixty percent
Speaker 6: of your voice and they didn't want to wear it
Speaker 6: like Can's headphones. So like I was, you know, it
Speaker 6: was a bit of amplify on stage moment you're suddenly
Speaker 6: on stage.
Speaker 1: We it was an interesting experience for us, right because
Speaker 1: we're watching our own show for the first time and
Speaker 1: we couldn't hear what you were saying. So we'll be
Speaker 1: listening like the fans. By the way, because I know
Speaker 1: Greg and Colleen haven't heard it.
Speaker 7: We are.
Speaker 1: We're always looking to monetize the show and build the empire. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is the name, the name of the program that
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Speaker 2: Now it's time for a trip to march.
Speaker 1: Manch McGregor and Devil McGregor is a placeholder. We're looking
Speaker 1: for sponsors, and I thought man Cave mark is perfect
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't I don't know what the hesitation is
Speaker 6: on the part of that one particular pizza vender. I
Speaker 6: continue to have hope that they'll, you know, perform and
Speaker 6: come out of the shadows. They did tweet it me
Speaker 6: they did. Yeah that's big.
Speaker 1: That's a start. Yeah, we could lead a your nose
Speaker 1: to water, right, but can you make a drink? We're
Speaker 1: gonna find out that's true.
Speaker 4: We've done this show for for ten years and it's
Speaker 4: been great making podcasts where podcasters the next ten years influencers.
Speaker 1: That's real, that's really, that's what we're happening. That's where
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Speaker 6: You need the perfect setting, the perfect squad, the perfect eats,
Speaker 6: and the perfect plan to keep everyone pumped all night long.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm you know someone or else? Well, actually,
Speaker 1: can I say I did? Gail Godot like having to
Speaker 1: eat that pizza. We're not going to play it back
Speaker 1: becaus I don't want to make light of it because
Speaker 1: it's an important it's an important cause. But the latest
Speaker 1: adread that's out there about the getting professional help very
Speaker 1: different tone, respectful and somber.
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I received some coaching before I recorded that,
Speaker 6: and I tried to pay attention.
Speaker 1: Connie, he where's your headspace at? Where's the oxygen levels?
Speaker 3: And my head is in the clouds. Still got if.
Speaker 1: Things went sideways, I did prepare something for this show.
Speaker 1: Is a Colleen was an amazing woman, funny, kind, vivacious
Speaker 1: and that laugh, oh that laugh A wild Irish rose.
Speaker 1: She was bringing serenity and warmth to this crazy garden
Speaker 1: we call life. And then and then we just all
Speaker 1: start to share memories of you but don't need it,
Speaker 1: so we're good.
Speaker 5: I'm, i'm, that's so nice of you to think ahead
Speaker 5: and plan that way.
Speaker 3: Thank you for thinking of my death.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're going up in a jet with the jets.
Speaker 1: How close are they eighteen inches?
Speaker 3: Well that's when they're flying with making eighteen yards.
Speaker 1: Next, there was this one up there right there was
Speaker 1: you weren't flying.
Speaker 3: No, it was just one. It was just me and
Speaker 3: Triple up.
Speaker 1: There by the way. These guys I saw maybe it
Speaker 1: was the man that you were was here.
Speaker 3: He just texted me, but they just.
Speaker 1: Left this guy out of Triple by the way. A
Speaker 1: lot of people coming for your triple your g's, I mean,
Speaker 1: like Colleen literally tripled your g's like triple triple g.
Speaker 1: And let's talk about brand invasion.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm taking this as like an opening, uh
Speaker 4: serve essentially, and I will return fire at some point.
Speaker 1: But this guy that you you went up in the
Speaker 1: air with, whether if it's him, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: right out of Central casting, oh.
Speaker 5: Oh, you guys have no idea, like the every everyone
Speaker 5: that is part of the Thunderbirds. They are all like
Speaker 5: I don't know what the interview processes, but it was
Speaker 5: like a bunch of ken dolls, and all of the
Speaker 5: girls are gorgeous. Everyone is a fighter pilot or a
Speaker 5: fighter pilot adjacent. And I truly think I might have
Speaker 5: to join the Air force. But I think my window
Speaker 5: has passed at this point.
Speaker 1: So top Gun is real.
Speaker 3: It really is, truly.
Speaker 5: I mean, you guys should have met fire if you
Speaker 5: guys would really have liked him.
Speaker 7: Really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how many women Thunderbirds are there?
Speaker 3: There's a few.
Speaker 5: But also each each jet has its own mechanic and
Speaker 5: has its own like sort of.
Speaker 3: Team, and so it's like mechanics. Everyone's good looking. Everyone
Speaker 3: is really good.
Speaker 1: But what an experience satorial service? Just a bunch of
Speaker 1: nines and tens and.
Speaker 5: They're all cool and they all get along with each other,
Speaker 5: like the vibes were honestly so good there.
Speaker 1: Well, don't you know, Colleen, don't judge a book by cover.
Speaker 1: There could be something going on underneath the fingernails.
Speaker 5: Well, I think that you could find out what it was.
Speaker 5: You should go over there next.
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring down the Thunderbirds, you know, take
Speaker 1: them down a peg.
Speaker 3: You know who's going up today with them, Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1: Oh if Matt Ryan passes out and too many gee's.
Speaker 5: Well, so they were explaining to me why as I
Speaker 5: had mentioned that women are more like physiologically capable of
Speaker 5: handling the g's. It's because, and I didn't realize this,
Speaker 5: Shorter people are better handles of the g's because of
Speaker 5: like the blood flow.
Speaker 3: So it is. I'm a little nervous for Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1: Six. It could be absolutely superior. You could.
Speaker 3: Tenji's.
Speaker 1: Tenji's is the only way to beat Connie double digit
Speaker 1: the gs.
Speaker 3: I wanted to hit like one of the mocks.
Speaker 1: It has been a great week for the small man.
Speaker 4: I mean, Mike Rabel can't get a job because he's
Speaker 4: so big and athletic and strong. They're just passing out
Speaker 4: jobs to five andy pound guys.
Speaker 1: What a moment here at Super Bowl week from Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do some news, get caught up on
Speaker 1: what's going on around this big game. See, it's important
Speaker 1: to remember because he's mild mannered, right Patrick Mahomes, But
Speaker 1: he's got that dog in him. That was from the
Speaker 1: Quarterback series on Netflix when he was going toe to
Speaker 1: toe with Max Crosby. It's one of the best rivalries
Speaker 1: in the league. Crosby and Mahomes get after it twice
Speaker 1: a year and thought Crosby right in the corner when
Speaker 1: I walk home, and yeah, like Mahomes part of Mark,
Speaker 1: what has made this guy who he is? Like, you
Speaker 1: do not f with this guy. And we collectively as
Speaker 1: a people doubted him this year. And I know it's
Speaker 1: not just him, but the way he's locked in and
Speaker 1: leveled up and we're gonna do a Super Bowl picks
Speaker 1: at the end of the week. It's just like, could
Speaker 1: you possibly pick against Mahomes and feel good about it?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think I can.
Speaker 6: I feel like if you pick against him, if you pick,
Speaker 6: if you pick with Mahomes, I should say and that
Speaker 6: they lose. You can't walk around the streets beating yourself
Speaker 6: up about it, because there's no way that wasn't a
Speaker 6: logical move. And I think the reason we haven't seen
Speaker 6: so much like wildfire and anger and vent him out
Speaker 6: of him is because things have been pretty good. It's
Speaker 6: like this, Yeah, I mean I thought that was instructive.
Speaker 6: It's like he will get on his teammates, you will
Speaker 6: go crazy, he will show his emotions.
Speaker 1: He's got all that.
Speaker 6: I think he's able to keep it under the cuff
Speaker 6: a little bit more than others. But the Chiefs in general,
Speaker 6: outside of like you know, Kelsey taking uh, you know,
Speaker 6: justin Tucker's helmet and whipping it into the back of
Speaker 6: the end zone, like, they're able to, like like in
Speaker 6: the big moments, not lose their cool for the most part.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting the Chiefs like to pay again because
Speaker 1: it's you have to draw the parallel of the last
Speaker 1: dynasty to this team, which I think absolutely if they win,
Speaker 1: you can't deny it's a dynasty. The Chiefs you could
Speaker 1: already call it that considering the success they've had, but
Speaker 1: a big deal.
Speaker 4: I think they're the first team, the only the second team,
Speaker 4: the only team in history that's ever made four Super
Speaker 4: Bowls in five years other than the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Wow in the salary cap. It's unbelievable. Anyway, the Patriots
Speaker 1: are easy to root against. There were elements around that team,
Speaker 1: including some controversies they were in, and then just how
Speaker 1: often they were in the picture. People just got sick
Speaker 1: of them the Chiefs. Not always that case, but it's
Speaker 1: starting to happen now where people are turning on the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: They got booed loudly when they entered at the opening
Speaker 1: night of festivities on Monday as they took the you know,
Speaker 1: they emerged, and Mahomes was asked about that how things
Speaker 1: have kind of changed and how they're seen, and I
Speaker 1: really think this is some toxicity. We don't need this,
Speaker 1: But I really think the Taylor Swift pushback has been
Speaker 1: born that's come down and worked against the Chiefs as well,
Speaker 1: because she's obviously connected and aligned with them and bros
Speaker 1: or Tacki.
Speaker 5: But also the booing from open night was a little
Speaker 5: misleading because the Chiefs fans were there first for the
Speaker 5: Chiefs podiums and then they sort of cleared out and
Speaker 5: then they had the joint appearance the Niners and the Chiefs,
Speaker 5: so then the Niners fans came in and it was
Speaker 5: mostly Niners fans that were left. So on the broadcast
Speaker 5: it sounded like it was just all booze, but it
Speaker 5: was also a little bit of the timing and the
Speaker 5: context and the red of.
Speaker 6: Show, and also you're driving and you're taking, like the
Speaker 6: drive from the airport to where you're staying in Allegiance Stadium.
Speaker 6: The Raiders, you know, Death Star has a gigantic Chiefs
Speaker 6: helm on it, so like some of the overflow of
Speaker 6: people that were just here as Raiders fans were also like,
Speaker 6: I think, when which team I'm going to be booing?
Speaker 1: Will be the Kansas City Chiefs. Not a big problem there, so,
Speaker 1: but let's keep the storyline intact. I'm gonna wipe all
Speaker 1: that from the show. Here's Patrick Mahomes on being the villain.
Speaker 10: Not necessarily. I think I just like winning. If you
Speaker 10: win a lot and that caused you to be a villain,
Speaker 10: then I'm okay with it. But at the end of
Speaker 10: the day, I'm gonna enjoy playing the game and try
Speaker 10: to win as much as possible.
Speaker 1: So you know, he knows what to say. Not much
Speaker 1: there your boy Mark brock Purdy. Meanwhile, he's on the
Speaker 1: other side of this and everyone is talking about Brock
Speaker 1: and what is he? Where does he fit in on
Speaker 1: this Niners team? How should he be celebrated? It's been
Speaker 1: quite frankly, it's become an exhaustive storyline at this point,
Speaker 1: including oh that guy's just the game manager. Here's Perdy
Speaker 1: on being called a game manager.
Speaker 11: Like I feel like it's it can be a compliment
Speaker 11: at times where it's like, all right, you got a
Speaker 11: guy that can come in and run the system. Well,
Speaker 11: I feel like that's a compliment. I think that's you
Speaker 11: know you're doing things right mentally, and obviously you're good
Speaker 11: enough to be able to hit guys that are open
Speaker 11: and make plays.
Speaker 1: So Mark like, yes, but also the pejorative nature of
Speaker 1: it is this guy isn't a playmaker. He can't do
Speaker 1: it on his own. But he might be hoisting a
Speaker 1: trophy in a few days and nobody would care what
Speaker 1: you call him. He would be a champion. I mean
Speaker 1: he's refusing to in a way.
Speaker 6: Look at the definition the way that it's for twenty
Speaker 6: plus years, and I more agree with Baldy that he's
Speaker 6: a silent assassin. He fits beautifully into that attack. And like,
Speaker 6: I feel like I've talked about brock Purty from my
Speaker 6: point of view so often it's like I couldn't support
Speaker 6: him more. I don't know what you need a quarterback
Speaker 6: to do in today's NFL in an offense like this.
Speaker 6: It's not because of the offense like Purdy does so
Speaker 6: much well, and I think we're just like, we can't
Speaker 6: reconcile the fact that he wasn't like a first round
Speaker 6: draft pick. I think people are still struggling with that
Speaker 6: that he's come out of nowhere and that no one
Speaker 6: recognized who he was before the draft too. I think
Speaker 6: a lot of people have some weight around the fact
Speaker 6: that Perty's blown all these expectations and been a complete surprise.
Speaker 4: But he's not a game manager. He is the furthest
Speaker 4: thing from a game manager. The funny thing is, if
Speaker 4: you look at the stats from this year, Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 4: would be the ultimate game manager. Like, no one throws
Speaker 4: the ball shorter depth of target than Patrick Mahomes. He's
Speaker 4: not taken any chances. He hasn't thrown an interception in
Speaker 4: six playoff gas, which is outrageous. No one's even gotten
Speaker 4: close to an interception on him this year. Like he
Speaker 4: is doing exactly what needs to be done. Brock Perty
Speaker 4: is the opposite. People that are calling him a game
Speaker 4: mander aren't watching these games. Like he's been a little
Speaker 4: up and down in the playoffs. Certainly, the first half
Speaker 4: of that Packers game wasn't good. Or parts of that
Speaker 4: Packers game. But he takes chances. I looked this up
Speaker 4: this week because I had a feeling on PFF. They
Speaker 4: have big time throws, big time throw rate. Four quarterbacks
Speaker 4: in the NFL are in the top eight of big
Speaker 4: time throw rate and turnover worthy play rate. Wouldn't that
Speaker 4: be like the opposite of a game manager. So brock Party,
Speaker 4: I thought was exceptional in terms of the good throws
Speaker 4: he made in the NFC Championship rewatching that I was
Speaker 4: really impressive how many low percentage plays he made. So
Speaker 4: he's one of the four quarterbacks that are in the
Speaker 4: top eight in big time throws and in the top
Speaker 4: eight of turnover worthy plays. He is a risk taker.
Speaker 4: I don't think you can take that out of him.
Speaker 4: He's not really a game manager. The other guys on
Speaker 4: the list are like Stafford, Trevor Lawrence was on the list,
Speaker 4: and Gino. It's a kind of a weird list, but
Speaker 4: it does make sense to me. It's guys who are
Speaker 4: gonna take some chances and it's not always gonna work out,
Speaker 4: but they're kind of fun to watch. And Flacco was
Speaker 4: way above the rest of them. If he qualify all
Speaker 4: he talked about that too.
Speaker 1: He said that the nature of the Niners offense is
Speaker 1: to attack in the middle of the field, and to
Speaker 1: do that, you're thrown into traffics and that's I think
Speaker 1: part of that is built into what his skill set.
Speaker 1: He's not known for having a cannon of an arm,
Speaker 1: so he can't maybe hit some of the throws that
Speaker 1: Stafford can hit, so they attack in a different way.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna hear me going into this week going
Speaker 1: after Purty too hard, because I really thought the way
Speaker 1: he responded when the house was on fire in the
Speaker 1: NFC title game kind of told me what I needed
Speaker 1: to know that he is a silent assassin, Like he's
Speaker 1: not going to shrink in this moment. He might make mistakes,
Speaker 1: but he's not going to collapse.
Speaker 5: Well, he just look at his yards per attempt this
Speaker 5: season nine point six. That was the best in the
Speaker 5: entire league. He was the most efficient quarterback. He was
Speaker 5: top five in yards and touchdowns and passer rating.
Speaker 3: How can you call him a game manager?
Speaker 5: But I guess at the same time, it's like it's almost.
Speaker 3: Like X factor.
Speaker 5: Everyone has a different definition for these things, and it
Speaker 5: feels like it's sometimes fluid, because you could make the
Speaker 5: case that every single quarterback who has ever played the
Speaker 5: game is in some way, shape or form a game manager, where.
Speaker 1: That's kind of the job. Is he where is he
Speaker 1: in elation? This is an off season conversation, but in
Speaker 1: relation to the Dalton line.
Speaker 4: It's funny rocky, Yeah, like I think he's in front
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 1: But how comfortable this is?
Speaker 4: So he's way in front of it and that's why
Speaker 4: I well, if yeah, I'm saying, I agree he is.
Speaker 1: But is he? Is he like a top ten quarter
Speaker 1: top twelve?
Speaker 4: I think right now to me he would be it's
Speaker 4: tough to remove him from the system, but he'd be
Speaker 4: somewhere in that eight to twelve range for me, where
Speaker 4: if you were starting a team, you would go with
Speaker 4: about eight or nine guys first, and then he's somewhere
Speaker 4: in that that mix of eight to ten, which is
Speaker 4: exceptional for any second year quarterback. Imagine if Justin Fields
Speaker 4: was a top ten quarterback in his second year. I mean, like,
Speaker 4: it's exceptional and it's okay, forty nine fans like you,
Speaker 4: it's okay that he's not a top five quarterback.
Speaker 5: But what what would he need to do to change
Speaker 5: your opinion to get him into the conversation of like a.
Speaker 3: Top five quarterback, a top.
Speaker 5: Like what would he need top five, top ten quarterback?
Speaker 1: Maybe would just need to see more, you know, see
Speaker 1: him in a different offense, see around. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's he is. He is gifted by I think cut
Speaker 1: down on the mistakes.
Speaker 4: I mean he's he like like the turnover or the
Speaker 4: play thing I was talking about, it's a reason why
Speaker 4: you wouldn't put uh some of the other people that
Speaker 4: I mentioned it was it was Gino, who was it Stafford?
Speaker 1: And Stafford you put in there?
Speaker 4: And like Lord, like, he takes too many chances now
Speaker 4: and I think he'll he'll pull that back while still
Speaker 4: having the play maker right.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking, like to Dan's point, though he bounces
Speaker 1: back from that.
Speaker 6: I think he's very mentally tough, Like there's something about
Speaker 6: him that with the way his teammates talk about him.
Speaker 6: But for me, like seeing him in a different offense.
Speaker 6: And I get where you're coming from, Dan, but like
Speaker 6: half the league is Shanahan offenses.
Speaker 1: Now, it's like he's gonna it's not only just the
Speaker 1: players around. Sure he has potentially, but he made every
Speaker 1: one of those.
Speaker 6: He's made every one of those players extremely effective in
Speaker 6: some of them, like Brandon Yuke has had a like
Speaker 6: a star season with him at quarterback. It's like he's
Speaker 6: he's he adds to the game, to the game of
Speaker 6: the people.
Speaker 4: It's one of the most age oled conversations around this
Speaker 4: time of year. Like at one point people kind of
Speaker 4: thought Joe Montana was a game manager, was a system
Speaker 4: quarterback who should really get the credit Bill Walls or
Speaker 4: Joe Montana because at that point he had already gone
Speaker 4: through and had success with all these other guys and
Speaker 4: that that's like football is like you can't really separate
Speaker 4: it and the beauty is like they're only great together.
Speaker 4: And and I there's no question to me, this is
Speaker 4: the best forty nine ers we've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Like it's not even close. One of the things that
Speaker 1: like Jordan Love's a great example. I would have him
Speaker 1: probably ahead of party right now. And part of that
Speaker 1: is because not that he doesn't those guys around Green
Speaker 1: Bay aren't talented, the young players around him, the past catchers, Uh,
Speaker 1: but I think he made them better and is pretty
Speaker 1: making these this core better or is he just fit
Speaker 1: in nicely as a as a piece that is making
Speaker 1: the most of them. You know, I think love is
Speaker 1: making that surrounded cast better. I think Stroud did the
Speaker 1: same things pretty behind.
Speaker 3: You right now, Stroud is he?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Crazy strange. Let's let's move on. Hey, this is
Speaker 1: always on my radar a little bit, just because how
Speaker 1: much things have changed in our world. Like twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: you know, you were playing the Super Bowl on like
Speaker 1: green concrete and everything was always terrible. And now every
Speaker 1: year teams are complaining about the turf, is he bad here?
Speaker 1: The grass is too slippery here, this and that. So
Speaker 1: Kansas City is training at the Raiders facility. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they are singing just Osanna's about it, Hosana, Like they're
Speaker 1: going nuts because it's great. We love it here. What
Speaker 1: a great team, a great facility, blah blah blah. So
Speaker 1: the NFC team is at UNLV and they are not
Speaker 1: happy with it. In fact, the union director do we
Speaker 1: know who the executive director of the players union is? Now?
Speaker 1: It's important because it's no longer a d Smith Greg.
Speaker 1: I mean, usually I have a computer in front of me.
Speaker 4: I took the computer away when Mark did his thing,
Speaker 4: and I forgot to bring it back well, I.
Speaker 1: Was curious if you knew it now, Lloyd Howell. Anyway,
Speaker 1: he said today.
Speaker 6: B Smith like to like to get into the news too,
Speaker 6: Lloyd Howe, maybe not so much.
Speaker 1: Well, wait till the next labor negotiation. He'll be in
Speaker 1: a punny But the UNLV practice field quote really isn't
Speaker 1: up to snuff for what our players deserve. So I
Speaker 1: just wanted to mention that they're unhappy with where they're
Speaker 1: practicing and the Chiefs are loving it. But I guess
Speaker 1: if it was the other way around and they were
Speaker 1: in the AFC, they'd be at the state of the
Speaker 1: art facility. But that's just how life goes. Deal with it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but something seems like you could have months ago
Speaker 6: realized that might cause some problems.
Speaker 4: Truth, it's a little bit of a knock on Vegas
Speaker 4: as a Super Bowl city that they don't have to
Speaker 4: high quality facility.
Speaker 3: I think they just put that down like the NFL.
Speaker 1: Though, to make sure that that facility is that's the thing,
Speaker 1: like you this, there's a lead up to this. This.
Speaker 1: We didn't just announce the city.
Speaker 4: Right, But you can't just like create out of thin air,
Speaker 4: like you know, a football facility. So they I guess
Speaker 4: you and A was the best they could do, and
Speaker 4: next time around, hopefully it's a good point.
Speaker 1: In other news, Greg, you mentioned it and your one
Speaker 1: big thought that got us going. How the NFL is?
Speaker 1: You know, for years it was like stay away, gambling,
Speaker 1: stay away, and now we're well, we are fully in bed.
Speaker 1: I mean we are presented by DraftKings today for an example.
Speaker 1: We also, by the way, just so people know the rules.
Speaker 1: So all of the NFL employees did get a sternly
Speaker 1: worded email from Rog himself about, Hey, you're in Vegas
Speaker 1: to work. You're not allowed to gamble. Obviously you can't
Speaker 1: go in the sports books. Uh, you have to avoid
Speaker 1: all those things. But no thought machine, no nothing, nothing,
Speaker 1: you can't go on them.
Speaker 6: I'm glad I did not read that email. So I'm
Speaker 6: glad that you apprised me of that.
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't.
Speaker 6: I didn't know that that part about the slot machines.
Speaker 6: You are you a slot machine guy?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: I mean actually it was you need like an oxygen tank.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 6: I feel like when you walk through a casino and
Speaker 6: I'm just like the noise of it. It's like a
Speaker 6: dave On busters On LSD it's like I need to
Speaker 6: be the.
Speaker 5: Same in this Like it's just overstimulating to walk through
Speaker 5: to you know, the colors, the noises, the people, it's
Speaker 5: a lot so.
Speaker 1: Just you would imagine once again, you would you would
Speaker 1: imagine that both these teams. And there have been stories,
Speaker 1: you know, go look up the name Barrett Robbins is
Speaker 1: an example. There. There are stories of players that go
Speaker 1: crazy super Bowl Week get themselves in trouble. I think
Speaker 1: where Barrett Robins go.
Speaker 6: I think he went to Mexico, Yes, I think it
Speaker 6: was Tijuana or or parts close.
Speaker 1: He was the starting center of the Raiders, right, and
Speaker 1: it's a wild story. Waxed the next day by the Bucks,
Speaker 1: so they sure did.
Speaker 4: There was the Falcons, you know, Walter Payton, man of
Speaker 4: the Year, caught with a hooker that we.
Speaker 1: Lay the night.
Speaker 6: Eighty six pat eighty six eighty five Patriots had some
Speaker 6: issues before they destroyed by the Bears.
Speaker 1: That's why they are so strong. No, it's not, it's
Speaker 1: the word.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Don't look at me.
Speaker 1: Anyway. Read the coaches, read and Shadahan and league representatives.
Speaker 1: As soon as they touched down in Vegas, they they're
Speaker 1: talking to the players, but here you can't. You got
Speaker 1: a new not what you can and cannot do. Here's
Speaker 1: what Reid said this week. We had the league security
Speaker 1: rep come in and talk to the guys right when
Speaker 1: we got here, I mean literally when we got here,
Speaker 1: and that was part of the conversation was gambling. He
Speaker 1: made it very clear, restating the rules and regulations and
Speaker 1: temptations here obviously in Las Vegas. So that was addressed.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I got a feeling. I don't want to
Speaker 1: put a sangwiche on it, and we'll do our Super
Speaker 1: Bowl Sangwich props later. We're going to get a story
Speaker 1: this week. It might be might come off this day.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, but someone is going to be
Speaker 1: a storyline about he's going to be I'm not reading
Speaker 1: to do that because I don't it's probably not going
Speaker 1: to be good. So I don't want to root for
Speaker 1: bad news for somebody. But that's mark something.
Speaker 3: Well maybe it won't be a bad story that comes out.
Speaker 3: There will be a story.
Speaker 1: Like what would be a good story.
Speaker 3: Well, there's always there's always like the guy.
Speaker 4: The guy put a like seventeen parlay, uh you know
Speaker 4: where he put like twenty bucks up and won like
Speaker 4: a million dollars.
Speaker 1: There's those sort of stories. Good news is not typically news.
Speaker 1: If it bleeds, it leads, am I right, yeah, they
Speaker 1: got the chart agree, So that's I could say that
Speaker 1: Eric the Enemy, uh, former OC of the Chiefs, he's
Speaker 1: got rings with this team, and he left case and
Speaker 1: became the offensive coordinator of the Commanders this year. But
Speaker 1: he got fired over there, so now he's looking for work.
Speaker 1: Guess what Andy Reid said Wednesday in his press conference
Speaker 1: that Eric Enemy spent time with the Chiefs before the
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game. He talked with the offensive guy and
Speaker 1: hung out with us in our meetings. He's still up
Speaker 1: for a couple of jobs. He couldn't really answer if
Speaker 1: the Enemy would be part of their staff next season.
Speaker 1: I guess if he doesn't get a job. But I
Speaker 1: feel like it's is that should that be allowed? Like
Speaker 1: you get another coach now on your team and it's
Speaker 1: a guy that you know.
Speaker 4: It's happened before Fangio with the Eagles as a recent
Speaker 4: that's right example. It is a weird little nether world
Speaker 4: loophole that that could happen. But ultimately he's just you know,
Speaker 4: he's just helping out the team he already worked with.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's getting paid for it. Yeah, little consult
Speaker 1: The Enemy was with the Chiefs from twenty thirteen to
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. He was the OC from eighteen to
Speaker 1: less thought it was interesting how Reid answered.
Speaker 6: One part of the question was that they asked would
Speaker 6: he'd be there next year potentially, just like if all
Speaker 6: this could shake out. He's like, well, they're in space
Speaker 6: for him right now. I mean, you can create space
Speaker 6: for anyone if you want. Yeah, but I think it's
Speaker 6: you know, it would be intriguing to see him come back,
Speaker 6: But there are a couple of people on that staff.
Speaker 1: I think maybe Reid would rather have the enemy over.
Speaker 4: It's like the Patriots. You know, they hired Van out,
Speaker 4: they hired our old friend. Why am I blanking McAdoo.
Speaker 4: You know they consulted with Kelly greg like we didn't.
Speaker 4: We couldn't get the enemy in there for an inner.
Speaker 1: Some of these Pats hires. I mean, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: And that's coming from a Jets fan. I've my coaching
Speaker 1: staff has Nate Hackett on it still. But you got Ben,
Speaker 1: you got Ben in the building. You couldn't bring. It's
Speaker 1: nice to see you out here. It's good news for
Speaker 1: the Bills. Put it that way about like a little different,
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit different. Hey, by the way, finally
Speaker 1: we have a quarterback from the vaunted QB class of
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen in a Super Bowl. We haven't talked about
Speaker 1: this yet. It's Sam Darnald. Here's a quote from Donald
Speaker 1: by the way he was approached media night. I always
Speaker 1: envisioned going deep in the playoffs with New York and
Speaker 1: being able to make a run at the Super Bowl. Obviously,
Speaker 1: that's what you dream of as a kid, right when
Speaker 1: I got drafted by the Jets, and still to this day,
Speaker 1: it's michael to be able to bring a championship somewhere,
Speaker 1: and now he has that opportunity as a backup for
Speaker 1: the Niners. But I just want to put it out there,
Speaker 1: Sam got there first twenty eighteen, traft Glass, who got Baker?
Speaker 1: You got Josh Allen, we got Lamar, we got Josh Rosen.
Speaker 1: But only one man got there first. Mark Well, this
Speaker 1: is the most Donald acts to grind that you of
Speaker 1: your many awkward acxes.
Speaker 4: It's interesting that Darnald didn't dream of getting there with
Speaker 4: the Panthers. He knew that was a failed operation. Look,
Speaker 4: Sam Darnald, he's a backup quarter. Who know, you might
Speaker 4: see him in this game like we saw in the
Speaker 4: championship game last year for Black Party leaving. But he
Speaker 4: should wear that Super Bowl ring proudly. Once I saw
Speaker 4: Colleen Wolf introduce war East Jones drew on our network
Speaker 4: as soon Super Bowl champion Maurice Jones drew, and he
Speaker 4: holds them. He holds up the ring and they offered
Speaker 4: the viewer no context that MJD got it as the broadcast.
Speaker 4: I was like, Sam Darnol deserves that is.
Speaker 5: I never introduce any of our analysts who have won
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl as Super Bowl winning except MJD because
Speaker 5: fans get so.
Speaker 3: Upset about it.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 3: You were saying more of an inside like troll job.
Speaker 1: But he holds it up, and you guys didn't explain
Speaker 1: it at all. He just holds it up. You know
Speaker 1: those viral videos of the guy that destroys his TV
Speaker 1: when a sports team loses. That was Greg after you
Speaker 1: didn't provide the context.
Speaker 3: It's my favorite thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it did make me laugh. I know you're
Speaker 1: calling it an awkward ax to grind. I'm just these
Speaker 1: are facts. That's all Mark number one auctional. From an angle,
Speaker 1: it's you are creating.
Speaker 6: You're not creating facts, but you're putting them into a
Speaker 6: certain stew that tastes a certain way.
Speaker 1: And it's delicious. Here we go. Pennsylvany man faces up
Speaker 1: to four years for illegally flying a drone over the
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game. Can we not? Can we stop doing this? Why?
Speaker 1: How many commercial breaks where everyone's confused for a second
Speaker 1: and the crowd starts booing and the announcers are trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out, and then the ref finally comes
Speaker 1: down and goes we are stopping the game for a
Speaker 1: officials timeout. Is like and you see some people looking
Speaker 1: up as they go to commercial. It's like, some damn
Speaker 1: idiot just flew another drone over a stadium. Go to
Speaker 1: jail forever. Send a message.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's aggressive.
Speaker 1: I was gonna go the minute.
Speaker 6: Pennsylvania man, so he flew it from Pennsylvania to Baltimore.
Speaker 1: That's impressive. It sold so many drones. It's powered on
Speaker 1: nuclear edergry fly it more. Four years feels a little steep,
Speaker 1: you know, I think so too.
Speaker 4: Our country does imprison more than any country in the
Speaker 4: world by leaps and bounds and drone and the reason
Speaker 4: why hang them.
Speaker 1: That's what I say.
Speaker 6: This is a good ax to grind Dan. Thank you
Speaker 6: want to go twelve years at least for this guy?
Speaker 11: Did you.
Speaker 3: Be able to fly him?
Speaker 1: Next ten years for commercials? These games are long enough.
Speaker 4: Next ten years we're going to be We're gonna be
Speaker 4: influencers and Dan's gonna become big on capital punishment. That
Speaker 4: is gonna be his thing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run for office. My main my main campaign
Speaker 1: will be about drones and have to be eliminated.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, will you please do a campaign ad? Please?
Speaker 1: I will? Okay, we got a lot off season, our
Speaker 1: episodes sket through drones may not fly within three miles
Speaker 1: of stadiums that seed at least thirty thousand people during
Speaker 1: NFL games. So there you go. And and relatedly, here's
Speaker 1: a headline from the New York Post that came out today.
Speaker 1: Content creator that's awesome on some level. Climbs Las Vegas
Speaker 1: Sphere in shocking scene to quote raise money for a
Speaker 1: homeless pregnant woman. Uh this happened today? Wait?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 1: Yes? And there's a guy climb the giant sphere where
Speaker 1: you who's playing? And I think Fish is there next?
Speaker 1: And The Grateful Dead and friends Mark? Okay, yeah, like
Speaker 1: how does what and what crime? This is the crime beat.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, why where is the money coming from that
Speaker 4: he's raising?
Speaker 1: Oh oh see, that's a great question.
Speaker 6: Well wait, now he could have been on if he's
Speaker 6: an influencer, he could have been on one of the
Speaker 6: platforms and people.
Speaker 1: You could do it on TikTok or whatever.
Speaker 3: And the world that you guys are going into.
Speaker 4: The Mark is leading us there?
Speaker 1: How do you climb a circle?
Speaker 3: That's the best question.
Speaker 1: The stories have deeper questions attached to them. How about
Speaker 1: he's known as the pro life spider Man. You know what,
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring him along on my campaign to it. Yes,
Speaker 1: of course you are. I got him, I got your
Speaker 1: pro spider transforming.
Speaker 5: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. And uh that's it. That's
Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. Anything else to add that
Speaker 1: you've seen in and around Bobby Game?
Speaker 5: Mm hmm No, I mean, I just thought it was
Speaker 5: interesting that Andy Reid opening Night was asked about foods
Speaker 5: that he likes and dislikes and he said the only
Speaker 5: thing he dislikes is liver.
Speaker 1: Never had it. I love liver, but what of course
Speaker 1: you do? And how is it cooked? Like it said
Speaker 1: to me, absurd like a pat certainly like a rock wall.
Speaker 1: But liver wished or liver worshed?
Speaker 7: Liver?
Speaker 1: Liver? Uh No, it's tasty, it's fine. Is it salty?
Speaker 1: What kind of what is it? What would you know?
Speaker 1: We're trying to get marked back to this.
Speaker 4: There's certain things that it's never tang here, I would
Speaker 4: say then regularly it's a textra issue that I think
Speaker 4: I I think it's because my my German grandfather was
Speaker 4: a liver guy.
Speaker 1: So it's just like baked into me. Bill, don't do it, Greg,
Speaker 1: I know what you want to do.
Speaker 11: Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let it, you know, just let it.
Speaker 3: Everyone.
Speaker 4: That's time and place you're doing it. Everybody knows amazing
Speaker 4: with livers.
Speaker 3: I just really need you guys to behave yourselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this this show is off the rail. All right,
Speaker 1: We're gonna take one more break and when we come back,
Speaker 1: we're going to uh have one more conversation about the
Speaker 1: big game. All right, welcome back. Uh before we go, Uh,
Speaker 1: this this will this is where we show our bona
Speaker 1: fides is real football people. This segment is called X factors.
Speaker 1: Basic bros and lazy ladies aren't even thinking about Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see, you see how I did that?
Speaker 3: What you included women?
Speaker 1: Included women? Because that's important.
Speaker 3: You know what, it's equal representation we have.
Speaker 5: We're we're going after everyone, so there is no one
Speaker 5: that is safe in this segment.
Speaker 4: It's also important, like when you do mention women, that
Speaker 4: you ask for the credit of mentioning the women.
Speaker 1: That that's important. I think, heart and parcel.
Speaker 3: It is exactly.
Speaker 1: Extremely important that you understand that this this industry of ours,
Speaker 1: populated by all types of people. I've done it again,
Speaker 1: So here we go. Let's get into it. So nothing
Speaker 1: nothing basic, Okay.
Speaker 3: Nothing basic, nothing basic, nothing.
Speaker 1: Mark Give us something, give us something deeper. What's an
Speaker 1: X factor for this game?
Speaker 6: I love that Colleen mentioned Steve Wilkes. I want to
Speaker 6: just go from a different angle a little bit that
Speaker 6: like he called them out like that everywhere that Steve
Speaker 6: Wilkes has been like win or lose on some of
Speaker 6: these teams. Like the thing I keep reading about him
Speaker 6: is like alpha male, like his power and like absolute
Speaker 6: vitriol at times in the locker room and in certain
Speaker 6: speeches to players, and the way he plans like affects
Speaker 6: the players and like they there was I think tension
Speaker 6: between Kyle Shanahan and Steve Wilkes this entire season, and
Speaker 6: you brought them down from the booth to the sideline,
Speaker 6: and I think that's made a difference. But then you
Speaker 6: go and get gash for one hundred and eighty two
Speaker 6: yard cards on the ground by Detroit in a game
Speaker 6: that you barely barely won, and your defense would have
Speaker 6: been the reason you didn't. And it's like we saw
Speaker 6: that we've become so accustomed under like Demico Ryans and
Speaker 6: coordinator's past where this defense played at a certain level.
Speaker 6: And Wilkes came out of the woodwork this week very
Speaker 6: strongly and just said nope, not acceptable, and like you
Speaker 6: can point at the coordinator, but a lot of the
Speaker 6: players came forward and said in an NFC title game
Speaker 6: of all games, we did not put forth the right effort,
Speaker 6: and like that can all sound like locker room nonsense,
Speaker 6: but I do think that there is I like the
Speaker 6: kind of that that happened to them. I don't know,
Speaker 6: it's like a huge piece of metal just fell from
Speaker 6: the sea.
Speaker 3: I don't almost hit the debt.
Speaker 1: I don't know was.
Speaker 6: That that was concerning but tied into like the fact
Speaker 6: that they nearly gave their entire season away last week.
Speaker 6: Like I still have legitimate concerns about their defense, but like,
Speaker 6: look look at the players. Some of the better players
Speaker 6: on the defense were not playing up to who they are.
Speaker 6: So it's like, does that refocus help against Kansas City?
Speaker 6: And do you not let Kansas City in the first
Speaker 6: half make a statement and don't let Isaiah Pachaco and
Speaker 6: others come and rush for one hundred plus yards on you.
Speaker 1: Isn't that such a weird because that's been floating around.
Speaker 1: You've heard that, like the effort wasn't where it was
Speaker 1: needed to be, not the execution, like and maybe that's
Speaker 1: just the choice of wording, but if your effort is
Speaker 1: not all the way there in the NFC title game,
Speaker 1: why can they always go? And it was the touchdowns.
Speaker 4: It was the pursuit on the James and Williams touch
Speaker 4: and the Jamir Gibbs touchdown. Something's rotten. This is something
Speaker 4: the lazy lanies is that it ladies, lady ladies, I
Speaker 4: was just making it, you know, specific to a specific but.
Speaker 1: It was too close to ladies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, lazy Lisa, Lazy Lisa's lazy Laura and uh.
Speaker 1: Bone like weird territory.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now it's like focused on the women's failures.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, and the boneheaded berries. What these people like
Speaker 4: aren't paying attention? I'm is connected to me?
Speaker 10: Is?
Speaker 4: I think like we could see Clyde Edwards Hilaire have
Speaker 4: a big time game. We could see some of the
Speaker 4: kind of designer runs to the outside that take advantage
Speaker 4: of what's been kind of a dumb defense, And I
Speaker 4: think that's what like I get. I guess it's great
Speaker 4: that you're calling them out and saying the efforts on there,
Speaker 4: but something's rotten, Like no one's kind of pointed out
Speaker 4: that this is a bad defense, Like it's been a
Speaker 4: below average defense and it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not like a small sample size.
Speaker 4: It's not the two weeks that mattered the most in
Speaker 4: the season, which are pretty important and they've gotten pushed
Speaker 4: around and like they're very lucky to still be playing.
Speaker 4: It's like the six weeks before that. It's the last
Speaker 4: three games that mattered. Baltimore handed it to him. I
Speaker 4: can say the Packers handed it to him. The Lions
Speaker 4: handed it to him. Most of the stops that they
Speaker 4: got are just because the Lions dropped the ball or
Speaker 4: made made mistakes like that is very concerning to me,
Speaker 4: and I think very specifically it's on the edges of
Speaker 4: their front and it's even sometimes those linebackers get a
Speaker 4: lot of pop for being over aggressive. So it's guys
Speaker 4: they paid a lot of money to it's Armstead. They
Speaker 4: brought in Chase Young. I think the Chiefs they don't
Speaker 4: have to have a meeting and talk about getting their
Speaker 4: minds right and getting their effort right in a championship
Speaker 4: game because they're championship material and the forty nine Ers defense,
Speaker 4: to me, has not been championship material for a while.
Speaker 5: But when Steve Wilkes gets that head coaching opportunity, everybody
Speaker 5: can sit down.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, you're exactly right though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well see we've given now both sides of the start. Well,
Speaker 1: you're right though, if he like.
Speaker 5: We want a fair and balanced podcast.
Speaker 1: You're right though.
Speaker 4: If they have a great game, he's going to get
Speaker 4: ahead coaching job. That's how that he won't. We're not
Speaker 4: this year. But I mean in the future he's respected. Well,
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 1: People will forget everything that happened in the last six
Speaker 1: to eight to ten weeks. If they have a movie
Speaker 1: and they have the players to do it.
Speaker 4: They have Bosa, they have Hardgrave, the number one free agent,
Speaker 4: they have all these different all pros.
Speaker 1: Connie, how about you?
Speaker 5: Okay, I am going with an offense of guard because
Speaker 5: if we're talking X factor, I feel like the offensive
Speaker 5: lineman they are always getting overlooked.
Speaker 3: It's not fair. And Nick Alligretti, especially.
Speaker 1: The interior of that line.
Speaker 5: You're right exactly, and especially in the run game because
Speaker 5: Joe Toney's probably not going to play in this game.
Speaker 3: May Allegretti started last week. He's a really good run blocker.
Speaker 5: He has lots of experience as a starter for Kansas
Speaker 5: City in the past. This is a seventh round pick
Speaker 5: who's only started thirteen games in his entire career, and
Speaker 5: now he's starting a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And you listen, the only time we've ever seen the
Speaker 1: homes look mortal in the playoffs really was that Super
Speaker 1: Bowl against the Bucks when the line was all beat
Speaker 1: up and it was a turnstyle. I was thinking, how
Speaker 1: connected to your point and your point, I don't know
Speaker 1: if Chase Young has a big time football left in
Speaker 1: his body at this point. And this is such a
Speaker 1: huge game for him. Greggie, we've talked about the free agent.
Speaker 1: He's about to be a free agent, and he's probably
Speaker 1: not to get a big contract regardless. But if you
Speaker 1: could come up with a couple of sacks and do
Speaker 1: something and be a difference maker, and you got botha
Speaker 1: on the other side they have, you would think at
Speaker 1: least the name brand talent, the ability to f up
Speaker 1: Mahomes and cause havoc. But it just hasn't really happened.
Speaker 4: And he's made a couple of plays and they I
Speaker 4: think they will run on him. You're right with a
Speaker 4: little allegretty pop. Both of these defenses where they're vulnerable
Speaker 4: is to the ground game. So it's all this quarterback talk,
Speaker 4: and yet you could see a lot of rushing yards.
Speaker 1: Greg, what's your.
Speaker 4: That was mine? I se I just seamlessly.
Speaker 1: That was wonderful. We almost partnered. I just felt like
Speaker 1: it was so connected so well, it felt seamless. It
Speaker 1: was like Mike and the Mad Dog nineteen ninety five
Speaker 1: level chemistry. Well, that's territory.
Speaker 3: What about a little Jake Moody too.
Speaker 1: Ooh yeah, it's a little expector. You just got two
Speaker 1: in and that's unfair. Why would you do that? Why
Speaker 1: would you do that to me?
Speaker 3: It was a bonus?
Speaker 1: Did you?
Speaker 3: Was that yours?
Speaker 1: Challas? Well, tell us why it didn't even go yet?
Speaker 1: Tell us why I did. Speaking of mad Dog Chris Russo,
Speaker 1: now everybody, everybody needs to get Russo on their show.
Speaker 1: We have always been the true Russo fans our podcast,
Speaker 1: Yes or No, Greg, we were first to that call.
Speaker 1: And Mad Dog's going to be on our show on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Just one of many great guests coming up. I think
Speaker 1: before he had a late later career like.
Speaker 6: Explosion, almost this third act of great there was you know,
Speaker 6: he was in a different stage in life. He talked
Speaker 6: to us, to us about that, like we courted him
Speaker 6: annually on this show, and I think brought the proper
Speaker 6: respect and understanding and context of who mad Dog is.
Speaker 1: He's coming up on Thursday. We're gonna let him know
Speaker 1: that because we love that man. Am Now, let's go
Speaker 1: to the Kickers Club. Okay, but nice setup.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. That's what I'm here to do.
Speaker 1: Now nobody ever talks about this stuff because oh who
Speaker 1: cares about kickers, as if these guys aren't, in many
Speaker 1: cases deciding the games. And Jake Moody versus Harrison Bucker
Speaker 1: is an obvious mismatch here on papers on paper, in
Speaker 1: terms of experience, in terms of what we've been seeing
Speaker 1: from each of these guys in recent weeks. Handsomeness hair,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go there. That's that's Google real quick.
Speaker 1: I haven't let us know, yes, let us know if
Speaker 1: Greg's right.
Speaker 3: Oh, he's got great hair.
Speaker 1: Just want and no go? Is that what you're saying? No,
Speaker 1: I could be totally wrong.
Speaker 4: I can't even I just think Bucker has great hair,
Speaker 4: so he's got to outshine Moody anyway.
Speaker 1: Bucker, I haven't been tracking this closely. I haven't really
Speaker 1: seen it. But he's been locked in. He's made his
Speaker 1: last fifteen kicks, the field goal kicks. He's been perfect
Speaker 1: on Pat's are we looking now?
Speaker 3: I'm just on an image search for his hair.
Speaker 1: Moody's fine. Moody's fine in terms of what we've seen
Speaker 1: from each of the guys in recent week. Butcker has
Speaker 1: made He's been automatic. Of course, he made the game
Speaker 1: winner Connie last year against the Eagles chip Shop, but
Speaker 1: still with the super Bowl on the line, big deal Moody.
Speaker 1: You know you hear the whispers and the way he
Speaker 1: was spoken about on the telecast that you wonder if
Speaker 1: there's been some concerns about if he's cut out for
Speaker 1: the stage. He missed the field goal in each playoff
Speaker 1: game leading to this. He missed a p eighteen Week eighteen.
Speaker 1: He's never kicked in the stadium. Yeah, that's a little
Speaker 1: that matters.
Speaker 3: It feels like the stadium though. It's like a nice control.
Speaker 1: Butcker's done it many times. Are multiple times at this point.
Speaker 1: But I will say this for Moody, although, Butcker is
Speaker 1: the guy that trusts way more to make a big
Speaker 1: kick on Sunday like the quarterback. I think Moody did
Speaker 1: show something in the NFTY title game because he could
Speaker 1: have spun out after missing that early kick, and instead
Speaker 1: he locked in and he was piping it. I made
Speaker 1: everything after that. So does that carry over to the
Speaker 1: new biggest game in his life. He's obviously has a
Speaker 1: high pedigree. He came in as a hot shot draft pick.
Speaker 4: I think he got drafted so highly, specifically because he
Speaker 4: hit so many big time kicks in the in the
Speaker 4: biggest Michigan games, like in the college football playoffs, it
Speaker 4: has an all time kick.
Speaker 1: So maybe that those big game memories, so that that
Speaker 1: is something to keep an eye on and how the
Speaker 1: kickers impact the game, because I have no concerns about Bucker.
Speaker 1: He's shown that he is nails. He's to me a
Speaker 1: top three kicker in the league and he has been
Speaker 1: for several years now. Just another element of the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: by the way, like there's a balance they it's not
Speaker 1: just my homes. They've really built out. Credit to that
Speaker 1: organization and in all the phases. All right, there we go.
Speaker 1: So that's that's the first show of Super Bowl Week
Speaker 1: here from Radio Row Again. We'll be back on Thursday,
Speaker 1: two days coming up, and then back on Friday with
Speaker 1: our last show, more guests, more fun and then uh
Speaker 1: and then we have a couple of days or we
Speaker 1: have a good time. Yeah, ed wolves intown.
Speaker 5: He sure is about to be in town this lady here.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh you mentioned he went to your airplane.
Speaker 1: Greg and I both spoke to him before we started today.
Speaker 1: Proud Papa. Yes, the man has much flight experience. Himself,
Speaker 1: but they never went nine. Gee's like his little girl.
Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah, it's pretty cool, cool, pretty cool.
Speaker 1: So anyway, and then on Sunday night, of course, we
Speaker 1: will have full coverage of Super Bowl fifty eight. So
Speaker 1: that's it. Hit the music, Eric, and there's that Sam
Speaker 1: Spence Music Championship Chase. That's what it's all about, Greg,
Speaker 1: there can only be one, the beautiful thing. Thank you
Speaker 1: to Eric right there, who did perfect work today until
Speaker 1: Thursday he the call