Speaker 1: Wind Down with Michael Coffin and I'm her radio podcast
Speaker 1: New Year Knew You so excited. I saw a gift
Speaker 1: um that's been going around social media and it was like, alright,
Speaker 1: nobody claimed one as your year. Just walking really slow,
Speaker 1: don't touch anything, no sudden movements, no sudden movements. Um.
Speaker 1: But I feel like, I mean, it's it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's not like a snap of finger. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: everything's great again and we don't have to wear masks
Speaker 1: and there's an coronavirus. Like obviously this year is still
Speaker 1: going to the start, is still going to have some
Speaker 1: looming effects of but I feel like if you change
Speaker 1: your perspective and focus on you, then maybe you won't
Speaker 1: focus on all the negativity. So that's why I still
Speaker 1: I'm like such the big promoter of like New Year
Speaker 1: Knew You? How are you gonna, like, what are you
Speaker 1: going to change from last year to make yourself better?
Speaker 1: And you know, what do you want to change so
Speaker 1: that you can be a better person? You can be
Speaker 1: a better what like just like love yourself more and
Speaker 1: not be as negative or not have so much anxiety.
Speaker 1: So I I love that aspect of a New Year
Speaker 1: because I'm like that I'm not the person at the
Speaker 1: gym like day one of January, because I know that's
Speaker 1: like when the gym's like go crazy. But I also
Speaker 1: think there's something to that where it's like you should
Speaker 1: be excited the fact that you can start a new
Speaker 1: year and have new outlooks and new resolutions, which I
Speaker 1: do it a little differently. I do like a resolution
Speaker 1: a month as opposed to like one big thing, because
Speaker 1: I feel like that can be so hard. But I
Speaker 1: don't know what are your thoughts. You know, I'm starting
Speaker 1: to change my tune a little bit in the sense of,
Speaker 1: I know, like a couple of weeks ago, I was
Speaker 1: on here saying that people might have these super high
Speaker 1: expectations of because twenty was the way that it was.
Speaker 1: But now, as you know it is, I think I'm
Speaker 1: changing my tune the fact that maybe people aren't having
Speaker 1: super high expectations and are just kind of tiptoeing into
Speaker 1: this year being like, Okay, let's just see what happens.
Speaker 1: And it's almost like when you you watch a movie
Speaker 1: right and you have no expectation of it or a
Speaker 1: low expectation, and it blows you away, like this is
Speaker 1: the best movie ever, or if you go into a
Speaker 1: movie and you think it's gonna be the best thing
Speaker 1: and you're like kind of fell flat. I'm starting to
Speaker 1: think and I'm feeling that way where I'm kind of
Speaker 1: going into this year where it's like, all right, I
Speaker 1: don't have these super high expectations of it being like
Speaker 1: the best year yet, but I'm gonna see what happens
Speaker 1: and it'll probably turn out to be a great year.
Speaker 1: I totally hear you. But at the same time, it's
Speaker 1: like even last year, I like is gonna be amazing year?
Speaker 1: It was still an amazing There was still some amazing
Speaker 1: things that happened. I mean, we became New York best
Speaker 1: time sellers, are relationship grew, you know, are we got
Speaker 1: to spend a lot of time with the kids. Like
Speaker 1: I feel like it was there are so many things
Speaker 1: that you can still look to the positive and maybe
Speaker 1: some of our dreams didn't happen, where some of the
Speaker 1: things we wanted to do, But then it's like, but
Speaker 1: we did this and we did that, and it's like
Speaker 1: how cool, you know, I don't know. So that's why
Speaker 1: I'm like, it almost makes me sad that like people
Speaker 1: that go into it with that expectation, because it's like there,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have failure in one. You will never have
Speaker 1: a perfect it's not going to be the perfect year.
Speaker 1: That makes sense, no, I know. And what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is because in the past, the general census is to
Speaker 1: get over zealous and over excited about the new year
Speaker 1: and making all these changes, and again you're maybe out
Speaker 1: doing yourself from a from a goal expectation standpoint. All
Speaker 1: I'm saying is just maybe now it's a little bit
Speaker 1: more realistic where you can just Okay, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: keep chip in a way and and good things can
Speaker 1: happen if I just keep my head down and and
Speaker 1: not just put all of these eggs into this one
Speaker 1: basket of the year one and it be blowing me away.
Speaker 1: We had a lot of great things happen in and
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll have a lot of great things that
Speaker 1: happened in I'm just saying I'm not putting any more
Speaker 1: weight into this year than I would any other year
Speaker 1: just because we're coming off a pandemic. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that makes sense. I mean I know there's still things
Speaker 1: that like, you know, we still can't tour and we can't.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't go play music, and there's certain
Speaker 1: you know, movie gigs that you know I can't. It's
Speaker 1: just like there's so many things, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like I have to focus on, Okay, well
Speaker 1: what can I do then that because we're not touring,
Speaker 1: like what where can we provide? Where can we grow?
Speaker 1: Where can we And I think it's like almost just
Speaker 1: like changing your mindset and not letting like oh now
Speaker 1: I still can't do this, like how can we how
Speaker 1: can we expand and grow as humans and and work?
Speaker 1: And um, I know for me, like I'm excited to
Speaker 1: just continue, like I want to start to you know,
Speaker 1: be more not proud of myself, but like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's some certain things that I've been wanting to do
Speaker 1: this year that I'm like, all right, I'm or that
Speaker 1: I've been wanting to do that I think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do this year because I'm like I want this year
Speaker 1: to be my year. And I know that might sound selfish,
Speaker 1: but like I wanna I'm like good boobs. I don't know,
Speaker 1: like I've been like I got the mom boobs and
Speaker 1: like maybe I want to prick those bad boys up
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. It's just like certain things are like
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'll like go to a retreat
Speaker 1: and you know, do something that can like push me
Speaker 1: more mentally or I don't know. I just think there's
Speaker 1: things that you can do that you can focus on
Speaker 1: you as well. Which I'm super pumped because we have
Speaker 1: josh Ax coming on Doctor and he's got a whole
Speaker 1: new outlook and I don't told him outlook. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's written four books of you know, The keyto diet Um,
Speaker 1: Eat dirt Um, a few others, and he's got a
Speaker 1: new one coming out that I've been just deep diving
Speaker 1: in all about like ancient healing and things that you
Speaker 1: can take for your body. And I mean, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm pumped to talk to him because there's so
Speaker 1: many things that I'm like, I'm just starting to get
Speaker 1: on that. Like now I've been taking these different supplements
Speaker 1: since COVID, so I'm like, okay, because I think I
Speaker 1: might be overdoing the elderberry. I've been taking a little
Speaker 1: one too many trips to the bathroom, so I might
Speaker 1: say the same thing. So I'm like, i gotta see
Speaker 1: if there's like a cut off on that, um, because
Speaker 1: I'm so new to trusting those things, so I'm excited
Speaker 1: to talk to an actual expert. Yeah, And it's always
Speaker 1: tough to decipher through that stuff, right because there's so
Speaker 1: many different outlooks and opinions and um, you know, research
Speaker 1: done on on on so much around the health topic.
Speaker 1: That is just finding what works for you and being
Speaker 1: able to be in tune with your body enough to
Speaker 1: determine whether it's helping or not. Like there's this one
Speaker 1: thing that I've been trying, this CB d um. It's
Speaker 1: from this one brand called Equilibria and um like facial products.
Speaker 1: But I've never smoked weed before. I've never done a
Speaker 1: drug and um, I remember like when CBD came out,
Speaker 1: I was like, so when someone gave me a face losh, like,
Speaker 1: am I going to get high if I put this
Speaker 1: on my face? Like like I genuinely I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't do that. It has weed in it? Like,
Speaker 1: but again I didn't. I had to do my research
Speaker 1: of like CBD. But I feel like there's so many
Speaker 1: new things that are coming, you know with an ancient remedies,
Speaker 1: and cannabis is one of them, especially for face and wrinkles,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, but I remember taking it and
Speaker 1: I'm like, am I dizzy? Am I high? I'm like
Speaker 1: I'm right now, Like should I be eating this entire
Speaker 1: bag of chips right now? But it's just it's interesting,
Speaker 1: just because there are so many new things out there,
Speaker 1: and but I'm intrigued. I'm so treat. Yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a good conversation with them. So we're gonna take
Speaker 1: a break. We're gonna come back with an interesting story
Speaker 1: that I heard recently that I want to share with
Speaker 1: the crew here, and then we'll get Dr Josh excellent.
Speaker 1: So let's take a break. So I was listening to
Speaker 1: Bobby Bones the other morning and they started talking about
Speaker 1: the story that they read about um where this I
Speaker 1: think it was a girlfriend or whatever had her boyfriend's
Speaker 1: phone and was listening to music and she saw that
Speaker 1: he had Tinder on his phone. Okay, so she immuteately
Speaker 1: like it was like, what the F is going on?
Speaker 1: How long have it been dating for? Uh? I believe
Speaker 1: that's total context too A good while, Like they yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not like a new thing, like they've been together
Speaker 1: significant amount of time. They might even be No, they
Speaker 1: weren't married their boyfriend girlfriend, But so she has his phone,
Speaker 1: sees the Tinder and then opens it and it's all
Speaker 1: guys and she's like what. So she brings it to
Speaker 1: his attention. She's like, hey, you know, I saw that
Speaker 1: you have Tinder, Like why do you have this? He's
Speaker 1: like what, Like, I made a fake account as a girl,
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm just following guy. She's like, well, why
Speaker 1: are you doing that. His reasoning was because of the pandemic,
Speaker 1: he usually has a buzz cut, but his hair has
Speaker 1: been growing out, so he said, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: wanted to see what kind of haircuts there are out there.
Speaker 1: That was his reasoning, And she said why not just
Speaker 1: google men's haircuts and he goes, well, those are all
Speaker 1: like male models. I just wanted to see like an
Speaker 1: average person like me with a haircut. So I set
Speaker 1: up an account as a fake woman and I use
Speaker 1: it just to swipe to see haircuts. And so listen
Speaker 1: to Bobby Bones and the whole crew discuss this on
Speaker 1: whether or not to believe him or not. It was
Speaker 1: very interesting. So I want to get y'all's take. I'll
Speaker 1: let you lead with this mark. Since you're a man.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I have a typical man. This
Speaker 1: is not something I would ever think about. I think
Speaker 1: it's shady. I think you probably should not have a
Speaker 1: dating app on your phone for under any circumstances. There's
Speaker 1: got to be a better way to find men's haircuts.
Speaker 1: But then when you describe, and I'm like, it's a
Speaker 1: pretty good way to get a random sample of dude's
Speaker 1: haircuts out there. Yeah, but there's Instagram. That's where I
Speaker 1: kind of get yeah, well that's that's what they said
Speaker 1: to and but and I'm even thinking, I'm like, what
Speaker 1: about Pinterest? Like the pictures probably be your best bet,
Speaker 1: because even on Instagram, you what can you I don't know.
Speaker 1: On Instagram, can you search men's haircuts? Um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let me go right now and see. But even that
Speaker 1: to his defense, like he probably don't want to see
Speaker 1: male models like in these like perfect picture haircuts our
Speaker 1: dudes Unpinterest, Um no, I mean not really men's haircuts.
Speaker 1: So if you go hashtag men's haircuts, there's foot thousand posts.
Speaker 1: Oh there's some there's some good haircuts on there. Still
Speaker 1: probably not a random sample though those are being posted
Speaker 1: as men's haircuts, a lot of models and a lot
Speaker 1: of haircuts. There are a lot of word designs too,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Maybe so it just had me
Speaker 1: chocolate because it's very interesting. And I think it all
Speaker 1: depended on his reaction to things, right, if she brought
Speaker 1: up to him and he was just super just like
Speaker 1: not a care in the world, just like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I wanted to see men's haircuts. I'm sorry, you know,
Speaker 1: my bad. She's like, well, do that make me feel comfortable?
Speaker 1: I want to delete it? Okay? Cool? Like, and then
Speaker 1: there's a deeper though. Is he interacting with anybody? There
Speaker 1: were no messages, There were no messages between anybody. There's
Speaker 1: no matches, there is no nothing. That's just weird. That
Speaker 1: just seems like you're really stretching to find something that
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that just seems a little Now. The
Speaker 1: best part he was bald. Couldn't the guy also use
Speaker 1: that as an excuse if he was on there looking
Speaker 1: at women, it's saying, oh, I just wanted to see
Speaker 1: what kind of outfits women are wearing, so I know
Speaker 1: what to get you for your birthday. Couldn't he make
Speaker 1: the same argument, and then we actually, you know, swiping
Speaker 1: with other women. He could, but I think the issue
Speaker 1: is because he's a woman signed up to see men.
Speaker 1: It's almost sounds like, you know that he's got a
Speaker 1: thing for men and he doesn't want to be on
Speaker 1: Grinder because if you downloaded Grinder, well then that's like
Speaker 1: that's for sure. That's for sure. So it's like Tinder
Speaker 1: was this safer wind down, real important topics in it
Speaker 1: was just interesting. It just was just like that is
Speaker 1: I've never heard that before. So to each their own.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, we'll see what happens. I'll
Speaker 1: have to follow up on Bobby Bones show to see
Speaker 1: if they ever got to answer to that story text
Speaker 1: Bobby and see. Look, we had some really gripping conversation
Speaker 1: on our first episode back about the Tinder dude. Wow.
Speaker 1: Well on that note, um, we'll be back and get
Speaker 1: Mr josh As Doctor josh As on the show. Hi,
Speaker 1: Dr josh As, Hey, how's it going good? How are
Speaker 1: you good? Good to see you guys. Are you guys
Speaker 1: in La or Nashville? Right now? Where in Nashville? Where
Speaker 1: are you? I'm actually floured down in seaside watercolor. Oh pretty,
Speaker 1: that's where everyone in Nashville goes down to that Rosemary waterside.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. Yeah, we're down here pretty frequently. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a good place to get away and recharge. Okay, well
Speaker 1: that's awesome. I'm glad you're here. So now I'm going
Speaker 1: to force you to come over because I I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna be able to answer or have you
Speaker 1: answer all my questions because I'm just like, I'm deep
Speaker 1: diving in your book. Um, everyone can pre order right
Speaker 1: now on Amazon. It's called Ancient Remedies. Okay, So a
Speaker 1: few things first, I just have to go down a
Speaker 1: list of things that I've just started taking. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: going to butcher the name of it. But c certon?
Speaker 1: Is that it? How you say it? Corset in? Okay?
Speaker 1: So I was told that it was really a powerful
Speaker 1: Is it a plant? What the heck is it? What
Speaker 1: am I taking? Well? Of course at in it's would
Speaker 1: be more of a compound. It's a compound that is
Speaker 1: found in onions and citrus fruits. It's really good for allergies,
Speaker 1: good for inflammation. Um, but yeah, it's typically it's taken
Speaker 1: with for different types of sensitivities. It's second for numerous things,
Speaker 1: but allergies is the most common. Okay, Well, now I
Speaker 1: have another question that even goes with that, because okay,
Speaker 1: so I've I've been told that it really helps with
Speaker 1: you know, helping the immunity. So I've been taking to
Speaker 1: a day, but I'm not supposed to be having onions
Speaker 1: because I took a Pinner test and it said that
Speaker 1: my body is in flame to onions. So now should
Speaker 1: I stop taking that? No? Of course it's most in supplements.
Speaker 1: They are a most always taken from citrus fruits, so
Speaker 1: typically lemons and grapefruit. So you're I think you're probably good.
Speaker 1: So do you believe in the Pinner test? Do I
Speaker 1: believe in it? I would say I believe that, Um,
Speaker 1: there's semi accurate. So you know, I think your body
Speaker 1: can have responses to different things. Um, and it's not always. Uh.
Speaker 1: So you have two things. You have food sensitivities and
Speaker 1: you have food intolerances more and one's an I g
Speaker 1: G test, which is like, if you imagine an allergic
Speaker 1: someone having a severe allergic reaction, that tends to be
Speaker 1: an i g G. That's an allergy. I g G
Speaker 1: is like, Hey, I'm gluten intolerant. I'm daily intolerant. A
Speaker 1: few days later, you eat something, you know, my stomachs off,
Speaker 1: or hey, my nose is running, or I'm getting like
Speaker 1: it's it's causing more of that issue. So pen Or
Speaker 1: tests more food allergy. I do think it is fairly accurate. Um,
Speaker 1: it's not a actor. I think if some if some
Speaker 1: people eat a lot of certain foods, their body still
Speaker 1: might respond a little bit more. But it's not necessarily
Speaker 1: a full an allergy. So I think it's fairly accurate.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's a d percent full proof
Speaker 1: because I took it a few months ago and you know,
Speaker 1: one of the main things on there was like cow's milk,
Speaker 1: and you know, I love cheeste so I've been trying
Speaker 1: to like eat vegan cheese and it's just it's not
Speaker 1: the same. A hard time with it, but I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I want to do it for a month because it's tomatoes,
Speaker 1: onions and cow's milk, So I'm for the month of January,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take all of that away. But it's I
Speaker 1: started to try, but it's hard to do that. But
Speaker 1: I want to see if I find notice any difference
Speaker 1: in like inflammation or you know, bloat or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But UM, with when it comes to the ancient remedies,
Speaker 1: because I'm obviously I've started to deep dive your book
Speaker 1: and I've already started screen shotting the things that I'm like, Oh, man,
Speaker 1: I gotta try this for this um anxiety. I've been
Speaker 1: on medicine for twenty plus years and I feel like
Speaker 1: I've tried everything. But I also didn't try you know, um,
Speaker 1: the ancient remedies. Um, I think you know, I think
Speaker 1: I tried was that the ward St. John's Ward or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I tried that years and years and years ago.
Speaker 1: My therapist told me to give that a try, and UM,
Speaker 1: a few other things. But I'm curious I didn't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've gotten to the place yet is
Speaker 1: do you have something that could help me maybe ween
Speaker 1: off of medicine and and do you even believe that
Speaker 1: some people might need medication and ancient remedies wouldn't cure everything? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so so a lot of this, So you know, let
Speaker 1: let me go and dive in here. So one of
Speaker 1: the things we cover in the book, and this form
Speaker 1: of medicine is over three thousand years old. It's called
Speaker 1: t CM. Traditional Chinese medicine and the forms of medicine
Speaker 1: that I study. I study a lot of traditional Chinese medicine.
Speaker 1: I are Vada, Biblical meda send those practiced by my monites,
Speaker 1: great so medicine that's been around for a long time,
Speaker 1: that's based more on individual case studies. One of the
Speaker 1: things they looked at and the reason why we call
Speaker 1: holistic medicine today, holistic medicine really looks at the whole person, body, mind,
Speaker 1: and spirit. One of the things we know as a
Speaker 1: fact is different emotions affect different organ systems and cause
Speaker 1: different diseases. For instance, why does somebody who's not well
Speaker 1: get breast cancer versus somebody gets lung cancer versus somebody
Speaker 1: gets colon cancer. Why does somebody get out of immune
Speaker 1: disease and somebody gets hypothyroidism. Why would somebody get breast
Speaker 1: cancer on the left breast and not the right, the right,
Speaker 1: not the left. None of that is genetic. All of
Speaker 1: it is due to the emotions you experience. And we
Speaker 1: all know this to be true once I go through this,
Speaker 1: and so if somebody has I'll give you an example,
Speaker 1: if if if a child has a really bad dream,
Speaker 1: they can wet the bed. Why because they have the
Speaker 1: emotion of fear. Fear causes dysfunction of the kidneys and
Speaker 1: the bladder and those organ systems. We know, if you
Speaker 1: get really ressed out, they say, your body gets in
Speaker 1: a fight or fight state your adrenals. That affects the
Speaker 1: adrenal gland. Your adren will start kicking out adrenaline and
Speaker 1: cortisol in those stress hormones. So if somebody has a
Speaker 1: lot of worry, you'd say, oh, my stomach is tied
Speaker 1: and nuts. It almost kind of get bent over they
Speaker 1: want to because we know the emotion of worry affects
Speaker 1: the upper digestive system. Anger, resentment, frustration, that affects the liver.
Speaker 1: Why do we call somebody an angry drunk while alcohol
Speaker 1: also affects the liver creates anger. So that organ system, liver,
Speaker 1: gallbladder is all about that emotion. Anxiety is all about
Speaker 1: the heart, Okay, it's it's that organ system, the heart,
Speaker 1: the small intestine. So it's your whole cardiovascular system grief
Speaker 1: or your whole immune system, which is your lungs and colon.
Speaker 1: That's related to the emotion of grief or depression or
Speaker 1: a sense of loss. You've had something had happened in
Speaker 1: your past. Maybe it's a form of abuse, physical, sexual,
Speaker 1: could be anything, and you haven't forgiven or haven't be
Speaker 1: able to let go of that thing, and you're still
Speaker 1: thing in the past. You haven't let it go. That
Speaker 1: shuts down the immune system. And so all that being said,
Speaker 1: to get to the root cause of any health problem,
Speaker 1: you have to address the emotions, and you have to
Speaker 1: address the diet and the lifestyle. So for instance, and
Speaker 1: I can tell one of the things I have in
Speaker 1: the book is that there's a quiz. It's really a
Speaker 1: form of personalized medicine. It's called five Elements, and in
Speaker 1: Chinese medicine people kind of fell into one of five groups.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like an angiogram test, right have
Speaker 1: you ever taken aniogram? Or a disc profile of Myers Griggs.
Speaker 1: These things are incredibly accurate at determining what your tendencies
Speaker 1: are in your personality type. Well, Chinese medicine did this
Speaker 1: about and in i or Veda actually they have something
Speaker 1: called the docies, but they did this over three thousand
Speaker 1: years ago, and they also determine how that actually affects
Speaker 1: your health. So Janna I can tell by your facial
Speaker 1: features and your personality type that you're a fire element
Speaker 1: in Chinese medicine, which means you tend to be your
Speaker 1: passionate person very passionate. You can get fired up, you
Speaker 1: can be you know, my heat. I might appreciate this,
Speaker 1: but you could be like if you get really out
Speaker 1: of balance, not when you're in state, like a really
Speaker 1: healthy state, but if you get really out of balance
Speaker 1: sometimes because somebody could say you're dramatic, possibly, But all
Speaker 1: that being said, like fire elements, you know, you can
Speaker 1: tell why they're face or facial features, your your skin
Speaker 1: tone is a little bit more of that darker it
Speaker 1: could have read tongue like, it's a little bit more anyways,
Speaker 1: even the way you're built, okay, Um, So that being said,
Speaker 1: fire elements deal with heart issues, and the number one
Speaker 1: emotion they deal with is anxiety. Okay, it's all like
Speaker 1: an emotional nervousness. It's a thinking more like an anxiety attack.
Speaker 1: That's that's all fire element. So that being said, now
Speaker 1: that's the way you're gonna be wired. Like I'm a
Speaker 1: what element, which essentially means my stress goes to my liver,
Speaker 1: gall bladder, okay, And so if I have health issues
Speaker 1: in the future, it's going to be liver gall bladder issues.
Speaker 1: So for you, so knowing it's anxiety. Anxiety tends to
Speaker 1: be a an issue. And this is more biblical medicine,
Speaker 1: but more related to identity, really really continuing to know
Speaker 1: who you are. So and by the way, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know a lot about you.
Speaker 1: I know, my wife told me before our interview, I
Speaker 1: hope you either think events of this. But all you know, Chelsea, um,
Speaker 1: she's like, oh I love her. She wasn't you know.
Speaker 1: I watched every episode of One Tree hell and I
Speaker 1: watched the season like when she was watching it again,
Speaker 1: this is this is like when we first got here,
Speaker 1: this a little while ago. But anyways, and I had
Speaker 1: heard your music. It's fantastic, you know, I love it.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think we have one of your Christmas
Speaker 1: songs on, you know, just just last week. So all
Speaker 1: that being yeah, so anyways, but that being said, um,
Speaker 1: so I don't know a lot about you. But identity
Speaker 1: is really all about two things. It's your sense of
Speaker 1: security in your self worth. Okay, That's what identity is about.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to make this this like I'm
Speaker 1: just talking about this is ancient medicine. Like you gotta
Speaker 1: treat the whole person. So that being said, like if
Speaker 1: you want to overcome anxiety, the real route is really
Speaker 1: continuing to know who's your identity in terms of like
Speaker 1: I don't again, I don't know anything about your parents,
Speaker 1: but that obviously has a lot to do with it.
Speaker 1: And do you see God in the same way, so
Speaker 1: how you know what is your identity as a child
Speaker 1: of God? Like, so continuing to build your foundation and
Speaker 1: knowing your identity as a daughter of God. You're a queen,
Speaker 1: what does that mean for you? And how you serve
Speaker 1: and love all those things, so you have a sense
Speaker 1: of your sense of identity, and that is security, being
Speaker 1: secure in you know, feeling safe and that you know
Speaker 1: in your relationships and those things, and also your your
Speaker 1: self value, like your value have to people into the planet,
Speaker 1: in the world and all those things. So I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to read your mail. I'm just telling you, like
Speaker 1: that's that is the way that an ancient doctor would say, Hey,
Speaker 1: your prescription for anxiety is number one. We're gonna work
Speaker 1: on this issue. Number two. Let's work on diet. So
Speaker 1: diet for you is gonna be all about foods that
Speaker 1: are typically the color red and brown and really dark
Speaker 1: nutrient dense food. So it's gonna be green, leafy vegetables.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be beats. So I just started eating beats,
Speaker 1: and this is like in the last four, no, no,
Speaker 1: two months, it's been like I used to hate beats
Speaker 1: and now I'm obsessed. Like just like that. Boom, Are
Speaker 1: you a coffee drinker? No, I stopped coffee years. Um.
Speaker 1: But all that being said, there you go. Red wine
Speaker 1: is actually a food of of the it's red. It's
Speaker 1: the food of the or the beverage of the fire
Speaker 1: element in Chinese medicine. So um. So all that being said,
Speaker 1: you want to consume foods. Grass fed beef is gonna
Speaker 1: be good for you, to beef, bone, broth, all those things. So,
Speaker 1: but a lot of green leafy vestables, berries again, like raspberries, blueberries.
Speaker 1: So you want to eat the food and then as
Speaker 1: a supplement, you know, treating the heart. Um, oh gosh,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things. Green tea like macho would
Speaker 1: be very good if you do need energy, but typically
Speaker 1: fire elements need more ca me. Um. And so CBD
Speaker 1: would be very good in that case came mel in
Speaker 1: the evenings. But the thing you've got to be conscious,
Speaker 1: so like the fire element, you need a healthy doset,
Speaker 1: like you need deep intimate relationships like that will drive you.
Speaker 1: That is like my medicine and I know that what
Speaker 1: it is, and it's like and when he gives that
Speaker 1: to me, I'm like happy as as a clamp. But
Speaker 1: it's like when he doesn't, I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what my medicine is, Yeah, you're not giving
Speaker 1: it to me. And so you've got to be conscious
Speaker 1: of who you're spending like who else is in your life,
Speaker 1: like spending time with your you know, with your husband here,
Speaker 1: like and having creating an environment where you guys are
Speaker 1: connecting in a deep way, but also the other people
Speaker 1: in your life, Like you've got to be really conscious
Speaker 1: of being around dramatic people that are unhealthy dramatic, because
Speaker 1: they will pull you into that state of versus. You
Speaker 1: need to be around people that are really like calming
Speaker 1: souls and spirits, people that are kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: just bringing balance to you, because you should be when
Speaker 1: you're in the room, you should be the person sort
Speaker 1: of firing people up, where other people are kind of
Speaker 1: like you're getting people fired up at the same time
Speaker 1: they're like keeping you ballance. Anyways, that's it. I'm going
Speaker 1: to continue on my beats, dr acts. Where did all
Speaker 1: this come from for you? Like, at what point during
Speaker 1: your medical career did you decide to kind of go
Speaker 1: more in the Eastern direction as opposed to modern or
Speaker 1: western medicine. Yeah, so for me, it was really early.
Speaker 1: I'll just share this, uh, this this thing quickly. So
Speaker 1: I um, growing up, my family lived in that conventional
Speaker 1: medical model. So anytime we were sick, we went to
Speaker 1: our you know, a physician, we got prescribed drugs. So
Speaker 1: like when I was a kid, I took antibiotics all
Speaker 1: the time because we didn't know there was a natural way. Well,
Speaker 1: when my mom turned forty one years old, she was
Speaker 1: diagnosed with breast cancer, which was kind of crazy for
Speaker 1: our family because if you would have looked at my mom,
Speaker 1: you would have thought that's a fit woman, Like she
Speaker 1: was a swim instructor, she was my gym teacher in
Speaker 1: elementary school. She was really it, but had this cancer
Speaker 1: diagnosis and she went through all the conventional medical treatment.
Speaker 1: She went and had a mssectomy. She went through rounds
Speaker 1: and rounds and rounds of chemotherapy, and I can still
Speaker 1: remember this day. I remember her taking a comb through
Speaker 1: her hair and all of her hair falling out. I
Speaker 1: remember looking at her and thinking she had aged twenty
Speaker 1: years and two weeks and just saying to myself, I
Speaker 1: never want to see anyone go through this again. And
Speaker 1: I also thought to myself though too, this is I
Speaker 1: was like fourteen years old. I remember thinking there's got
Speaker 1: to be a better way for somebody to supposedly get
Speaker 1: healthy when my mom went through these treatments, and praise God,
Speaker 1: she was diagnosed as being cancer free and healthy. But
Speaker 1: the crazy thing was, after all these treatments, she really
Speaker 1: seemed like she had more health problems than ever before.
Speaker 1: My mom got put on and ann anxiety drug and
Speaker 1: an oppressant drugs um. She was diagnosed with hypothyroidism, chronic fatigue,
Speaker 1: and a big part of my memory of my mom
Speaker 1: growing about a great mom, but she was sick and
Speaker 1: tired all the time. And this went on for thirteen
Speaker 1: fourteen years, And at that point, I was actually studying
Speaker 1: to become a doctor, was really studying functional medicine and
Speaker 1: um and part of it, the big reason was it's
Speaker 1: like I want to help my mom, you know, like
Speaker 1: I want to see her get well. And right before
Speaker 1: this is months before I went and opened my own
Speaker 1: clinic in Nashville, before I moved to Nashville, I got
Speaker 1: a call from my mom and tears on the phone,
Speaker 1: and she said, I've got bad news. I've just been
Speaker 1: diagnosed with cancer again. It's on my lungs. What should
Speaker 1: I do? And I flew from Florida back to Ohio
Speaker 1: where I grew up. We sat down, we prayed together,
Speaker 1: and we felt really led to take care of her
Speaker 1: all naturally. And we had the doctors at the time,
Speaker 1: we're oncologists in Columbus, Ohio, saying, hey, we really think
Speaker 1: we need to do radiation. They said, but hey, if
Speaker 1: you want to take three months and try this thing,
Speaker 1: go ahead, but we need to see you again about
Speaker 1: three to four months. So we decided to take do
Speaker 1: this natural protocol. And I did thousands of hours of
Speaker 1: research as well, looking at what are ancient remedies and
Speaker 1: diets for cancer and talking to doctors all around the country.
Speaker 1: So I put together program for her. She started juicing
Speaker 1: vegetables every single day, drinking some bone broth using uh
Speaker 1: tumeric and a stragg list, and in mushrooms like Rieshie mushroom.
Speaker 1: And also we really worked on doing stress. My mom
Speaker 1: had a lot of fear and worry in her life,
Speaker 1: so we recorded her saying Bible verses and actually sang
Speaker 1: out loud her future and visualizing herself bringing her kids
Speaker 1: to Disney World when she was in her eighties and
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and so at the time it was
Speaker 1: a cassette tape and she just listened to it every morning,
Speaker 1: which she woke up every night before bed. And we
Speaker 1: followed this really holistic program for four months. She went
Speaker 1: back to her oncologist read it a CT scan technically
Speaker 1: a PET scan. This was four months later, and the
Speaker 1: ecologist called the next day and her exact words were,
Speaker 1: this is highly unusual. We don't typically see this, but
Speaker 1: your tumors are shrunk by more than half. They said.
Speaker 1: The largest humor was two and a half centimeters. It's
Speaker 1: now down to one point too. They said, we want
Speaker 1: to see you again nine months. She went back nine
Speaker 1: months later and then complete remission and today this has
Speaker 1: been about fourteen years or so since then, and my
Speaker 1: mom's in the best ship of her life. She's in
Speaker 1: her late sixties and she water skis, runs five k is. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, just actually feels better now her sixties or thirties.
Speaker 1: So anyways, all that being said, that led me to
Speaker 1: open a functional madicone clinic in Nashville. I no longer
Speaker 1: operate that. I operated that about five years and then
Speaker 1: I really started focusing on educating, you know, online and
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. But um, that's really what kind
Speaker 1: of brought me into this, uh, you know, into teaching
Speaker 1: more of this sort of you know, functional and ancient medicine.
Speaker 1: That's fascinating. I mean I can't imagine something that personal.
Speaker 1: Of course, that would steer your life, you know, in
Speaker 1: the way that it has, And that's you know, I
Speaker 1: would like to think I would. I would approach it
Speaker 1: that way too if something like that unfortunately happened, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: like what what how he went into it? No, like
Speaker 1: if I was in his mom's position, or but shouldn't
Speaker 1: we be doing those things now before we get into
Speaker 1: that position? Yeah? Well I think so, I mean that's
Speaker 1: a thing like, oh yeah, for sure, But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think if somebody looks at my diet and the way
Speaker 1: that our family it's you would it would be the
Speaker 1: diet that you would use, you know what, I would say.
Speaker 1: The other thing, it's very very healthy, you know, it
Speaker 1: would be it's a diet not to get these things.
Speaker 1: So so absolutely, so what is the diet not to
Speaker 1: get those things? Like? What? What? Like? What's the what's
Speaker 1: the medicine the healthy way? Yes, I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: two answers. Um One is it depends on the person,
Speaker 1: because here's the thing, there's no one perfect diet for
Speaker 1: in everybody. Everybody is a unique individual. Where one person
Speaker 1: may do great on coffee, another person it is terrible
Speaker 1: for them. Some people do great on raw vegetables. For
Speaker 1: somebody with irritable bow syndrome and digestive issues, raw vegetables
Speaker 1: are one of the worst things they can eat. Actually,
Speaker 1: So I think it really depends. I One of the
Speaker 1: things I'm excited to see in the future is we're
Speaker 1: going to move more into both major medical and and
Speaker 1: more natural medicine. We're going to continue to move more
Speaker 1: into what the ancients did and it's more personalized us
Speaker 1: and that's where things need to move. So my first
Speaker 1: answer is you know, for instance, like your diet is
Speaker 1: being more of this fire element in your body, Like,
Speaker 1: for instance, fire elements need to be really careful with
Speaker 1: over consuming carbohydrates. You'll do well with a lot of
Speaker 1: good healthy fats um versus someone who's wired like me
Speaker 1: will have a harder time doing like a higher fat.
Speaker 1: But so anyways, there's a little bit of a difference.
Speaker 1: But generally speaking, most people do well with a lot
Speaker 1: of vegetables and a moderate amount of organic meat, and
Speaker 1: then some things like you know, nutrient dense fruits and
Speaker 1: you know, slow cooked you know, grains and that sort
Speaker 1: of thing sort of sprinkled in. But I think the
Speaker 1: big thing is eat real food and make a big
Speaker 1: part of your plate vegetables, you know, I think is
Speaker 1: generally good for most people, or if somebody wants to
Speaker 1: most people have seen reverse immune disease and that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. Their diet has been primarily vegetables and wild,
Speaker 1: organic healthy meat. Do you guys have kids? We do.
Speaker 1: We have. Actually we just had our first not too
Speaker 1: long ago. She's about almost nine months old. Now, congratulations,
Speaker 1: thank you have you and your wife? Like, is that
Speaker 1: something I mean, I'm sure? I mean, you guys eat
Speaker 1: the way you eat, and we're the same way, like
Speaker 1: we eat the way we eat in our kids are
Speaker 1: along for the ride with that, you know, we don't
Speaker 1: now a little bit more. We cook them something separate
Speaker 1: than what we have, but as they get older, we'll
Speaker 1: continue just to give them whatever we eat, which is
Speaker 1: typically healthy. But with that mindset that you guys have
Speaker 1: in raising a kid, have you guys talked about things
Speaker 1: down the road with with you know, with your child
Speaker 1: on kind of whether it diet or you know, medical
Speaker 1: issues or you know, doctor consultations or whatever that is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So so I'm wired as a very uh strategic planner.
Speaker 1: Like I I am sort of obseted about goal setting
Speaker 1: and having a plan. And that's and I did that
Speaker 1: same thing with my patients when I had in my
Speaker 1: own mom It's like, hey, because here's what I found too.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, there's a there's a you know,
Speaker 1: the famous quote everybody's heard if you don't have a plan,
Speaker 1: you're planning to fail sort of thing. And so I'm
Speaker 1: always very planned. Even when when my wife and I
Speaker 1: had our first date, um, you know, we kind of
Speaker 1: you know, asked every question you can imagine, you know,
Speaker 1: for in the course of four hours, like deep question
Speaker 1: of what is your belief about religion and politics and
Speaker 1: you know, all of those things. And so all that
Speaker 1: being said, I think I I knew her how I
Speaker 1: was marrying really, um you know, almost immediately. And that's
Speaker 1: one of the things actually attracted me about Chelsea. Actually
Speaker 1: knew her cousin. He's an evangelist over Knoxville, Tennessee. An
Speaker 1: amazing just amazing guy. And and then um in any way,
Speaker 1: So but that being said, yeah, I think her and
Speaker 1: I are on the same page on Actually we were
Speaker 1: just out talking about should we have not done co sleeping,
Speaker 1: but we kind of talked about should we And there's
Speaker 1: a lot of all that being said. We we are,
Speaker 1: we're not, but some people do, and we think that's fantastic.
Speaker 1: I think it depends on on the I think it
Speaker 1: depends on the kid, you know too, I think, but
Speaker 1: for us, we're on the same page and what we'll
Speaker 1: do for you know, our when as our daughter are
Speaker 1: when like we're on the same page of what we'll
Speaker 1: do for her health for the most part, and the
Speaker 1: other thing, you know, I think for Chelsea and I
Speaker 1: like I trust my wife immensely. She has so much
Speaker 1: wisdom that I think if we do have an issue
Speaker 1: where maybe we have a slight disagreement on how to
Speaker 1: do things, I think her and I are both I
Speaker 1: think it's really important in relationships. We're both were mutually submissive.
Speaker 1: If Chelsea really feels strong about something, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, like you love our daughters so much
Speaker 1: like I'm like as a husband, I'm also called at
Speaker 1: times to hey, submit and and listen to the wisdom
Speaker 1: of my wife, and Chelsea does the same. So I
Speaker 1: think that mutually submissive and respectful relationship allows us to,
Speaker 1: you know, figure things out there because we don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie, we don't have everything figured out. But
Speaker 1: I do think we've had these conversations to know our
Speaker 1: of values, a line in our relationship with God and
Speaker 1: those things, to know where where we both wanna are
Speaker 1: willing to end up. I love that. Can we do
Speaker 1: some rapid fire with you? Just a few like miss stuff?
Speaker 1: I just want to rapid fire? Okay, Um, juicing doesn't
Speaker 1: really work. Uh you know, I'm not trying to be
Speaker 1: politically correct, but for some people, for people with liver
Speaker 1: issues or need to cleanse. It's the best thing they
Speaker 1: could probably do for somebody with major digestive issues. It's
Speaker 1: not the best. Do you get the nutrients so from juicing?
Speaker 1: Because I was told that, Like my trainer got really
Speaker 1: mad at me for for juicing because she's like, all
Speaker 1: the nutrients are gone all. But I'm like, but it
Speaker 1: says beats ginger, lemon, like you know apple. She's like,
Speaker 1: you're just getting the sugar from the apple, You're not
Speaker 1: getting the actual nutrients. Wrong. Okay, good, I'm going back
Speaker 1: to it. Um okay, apple sitter, apple cider, vinegar shots
Speaker 1: in the morning, work or not work. I know it's
Speaker 1: political body versus, but so I think for a lot
Speaker 1: of people it would do them good. Yes, work, it's
Speaker 1: so good. I love it. If there's one thing that
Speaker 1: you're very passionate about. If someone is like, okay, I
Speaker 1: want to start doing this, but jumping completely all in
Speaker 1: is a little intimidating. So it's one thing that I
Speaker 1: could digest or take every single day that you would
Speaker 1: suggest for somebody new getting into somebody's looking to just
Speaker 1: make a big change with one single action, I would say,
Speaker 1: just change your breakfast. I mean, if somebody just changed
Speaker 1: their breakfast. They're changing one third of their diet. As
Speaker 1: I've worked with thousands of patients over the years, I
Speaker 1: can tell you this. There's something about when you eat
Speaker 1: a good like, hey, you start doing a super food
Speaker 1: smoothie for breakfast or something like that, Um, it almost
Speaker 1: kind of motivates You're like, already ate one good meal
Speaker 1: to day, like maybe I'll try a second meal, maybe
Speaker 1: I'll you know, and feeling good in the morning, so
Speaker 1: I you know, I have a super food smoothie recipe
Speaker 1: I used to always have my patients do, and it's
Speaker 1: what I had this morning. It's one cup of coconut milk,
Speaker 1: one scoop of like a collagen protein you can do
Speaker 1: like vanilla flavor, and a cup of berries. Three simple
Speaker 1: ingredients in the smoothie. Fantastic for almost everybody. Is there
Speaker 1: a protein in there? Like good? Like could you do
Speaker 1: that before a run and work out? If somebody wants
Speaker 1: to do something like a like a plant protein, I
Speaker 1: think that's fine as well. Okay. Worst thing that we're
Speaker 1: putting into our bodies food sugar, sugar, like sugar sugar
Speaker 1: or fake sugar, sugar sugar. I mean yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: sugar is out of everything. I mean, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: white sugar. And listen, you guys are nastral I'm in
Speaker 1: the South. It's like, hey, let's just throw a little
Speaker 1: sugar and tea. Let's throw it throwing everything. So I
Speaker 1: love sweet tea. That's my crypto nite. I'm not a
Speaker 1: big like soda drink or anything that, but I love
Speaker 1: sweet tea. Last, but not least. I know you kind
Speaker 1: of said yes to it, but I just want to
Speaker 1: put a bow on it. Glass of wine every night?
Speaker 1: Yes or no? What? Why? Ye? So you know if
Speaker 1: and that would actually increase anxiety for sure if you
Speaker 1: overdo it. So here's the thing to know. It's all
Speaker 1: about balance. Two times a week your body would thrive.
Speaker 1: But seven days a week that's gonna be too much.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be too much for your liver. In fact,
Speaker 1: if you want a recipe for having anxiety, I don't
Speaker 1: want to get too complicated here, but I'll share with
Speaker 1: you why you have five organs systems that sort of
Speaker 1: your different organs affect other organs. Okay, so you guys
Speaker 1: have heard like your gut health affects your immune health, right,
Speaker 1: So like digestion actually affects your immune system or that
Speaker 1: you've heard of. Your immune system is in your gut.
Speaker 1: So we know different organ systems affects affect each other.
Speaker 1: The main organ system that affects the heart or caused
Speaker 1: anxiety is actually the liver. So if your liver is
Speaker 1: under a lot of stress having to deal with alcohol,
Speaker 1: what that will do is it will stress that out.
Speaker 1: It's actually going to affect nourishing the heart and cardiovascular system.
Speaker 1: So I would say, listen, you'll do wine on wine,
Speaker 1: do great on wine. If you do it a couple
Speaker 1: of days a week, four shake on four. I'd say
Speaker 1: three four is gonna be too much too. I think
Speaker 1: you need to give your body just one glass. I understand.
Speaker 1: I understand what you're is gonna have this whole last
Speaker 1: three minutes of the episode. Cut. Let's edit that out
Speaker 1: because I don't want any proof. Here's what people do.
Speaker 1: People will take this thing because I see this a lot.
Speaker 1: It's like coffee is healthy, dark chocolate's healthy. Wine is healthy,
Speaker 1: butter is healthy, you know, and it's like, but but
Speaker 1: this is you know, I think it again, this model.
Speaker 1: I'm not a believer in everything in moderation. Thing I
Speaker 1: don't even I don't think that's true, but I do
Speaker 1: think generally speaking for most people that be that would
Speaker 1: be a little too much. And you just answered, gonna
Speaker 1: go back, But I'm just telling you know, it's fine.
Speaker 1: It's not I'm not going to change it, but it's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I might, I'm might lesson in a little
Speaker 1: but then you know, we'll see from there. But um, okay,
Speaker 1: so everything in moderation can you do? When you do wine,
Speaker 1: you need to make sure you're also doing something for
Speaker 1: B vitamins because your let your body has to do
Speaker 1: a lot for that. So nights you do wine or
Speaker 1: anybody listening, anytime you do alcohol you want to take
Speaker 1: a B complex and maybe something even supporting the liver,
Speaker 1: like a milk thistle or something like that. That's good. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I love having you on. I would love
Speaker 1: to have you over for a glass of wine on
Speaker 1: you know, on a night with you and your wife
Speaker 1: and one of your two nights a weekend. Yes. Um,
Speaker 1: everyone needs to buy Ancient Remedies. You can pre order
Speaker 1: it right now on Amazon. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: coming on, seriously appreciate a yeah, awesome, Well, hey, thanks
Speaker 1: for having me. I appreciate you, guys. And where else
Speaker 1: can our listeners find you? Yeah, you can find me
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Uh. Dr Josh acts on Instagram and Facebook.
Speaker 1: Also have a website doctor x dot com where if
Speaker 1: somebody's listening and they're struggling with a health problem, maybe
Speaker 1: it's again hypothyroidism or PCOS or whatever it might be,
Speaker 1: you could just search on your search engine doctor as hypothyroidism.
Speaker 1: I've written a lot of articles on hey, the best
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Speaker 1: question again to search my name and the topic and
Speaker 1: I've you know, written about a lot of these things.
Speaker 1: But umyeah, it's probably the best best place to find me.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Dr Josh appreciate it. Awesome, Thanks for having
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Yeah, man, he was full of knowledge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to read his book. He also, like
Speaker 1: um we mentioned earlier, he's the best selling author of
Speaker 1: some other books as well, so definitely look him up,
Speaker 1: especially if you're into the Keto diet. Yeah, and there's
Speaker 1: one chapter that you pointed out, honey, chapter twelve in
Speaker 1: this new book, ancient, Ancient remedies UM talks is he
Speaker 1: lists prescriptions like natural you know remedies and prescriptions for
Speaker 1: seventy plus conditions. So if you're dealing with indigestion or
Speaker 1: dealing with anxiety or whatever, he gives you, like a
Speaker 1: healthy prescription from natural things to help, you know, help
Speaker 1: that situation. New Year, New you. Boom. That's a great freeze, honey,
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