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Speaker 2: Life happens twenty twenty six came with a bang.

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Speaker 1: It did, and you will hear about it in our

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Speaker 1: happy hour. But we hope all is going well for you.

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Speaker 1: I know that at this time of year. We've talked

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Speaker 1: about this before on Sminty. We're not really big resolutions people,

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Speaker 1: And I do have what I would call goals, and

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Speaker 1: I I've also got a new habit that where every

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Speaker 1: New Year, I'm like, my new year is officially going

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Speaker 1: Used to be really good at that stuff, but now

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Speaker 1: I just have so many like birthdays that happen. I

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Speaker 3: That's I don't want to make an excuse, but that's

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Speaker 2: You just New Year, It's okay, that's what I tell myself.

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Speaker 3: Hobbies, new hobbies.

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Speaker 1: And we did this Monday many on women and hobbies

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Speaker 2: I got news. Yes, I have stuck with a few.

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Speaker 3: Yes, because I think this from a year ago exactly.

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Speaker 1: this classic episode.

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Speaker 2: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.

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Speaker 3: I'm welcome to steff when never told your production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: So, I don't know if I'm the only one who

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, putting a timestampessed November twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: By the way, I have a lot of coasters that

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Speaker 2: And here's a quote. Hobbies are a perfect way to

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Speaker 2: Keeping yourself engaged during your leisure time lowers or stress levels.

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Speaker 2: Research found that adults who take out time to practice

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Speaker 2: it improves your mental health. Also so again from connectealth

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Speaker 2: more time spent towards creative activities produce more positive emotions. Additionally,

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Speaker 2: And again back to the WebMD article, having a hobby

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Speaker 2: You have mush runs now for a coaster. It's not

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Speaker 2: Is also because women don't have as much free time.

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Speaker 2: to the ABS's latest Time You survey, we girly pops

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Speaker 2: it comes to hobbies. Men spend an average of four

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Speaker 2: But of course there are those who are saying women

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Speaker 2: don't have hobbies or their hobbies aren't hobbies, which is

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Speaker 2: odd in general. So again from that fashion journal dot com.

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Speaker 2: The topic for discussion as we entered part two of

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Speaker 2: this gender hobby dissection is drum roll please value. As

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Speaker 2: the writer mentioned, there are few fun activities she considers

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Speaker 2: But you know, let's keep it optimistic, she says, Just

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Speaker 2: like we don't have them. It's true. And another article

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Speaker 2: if they do, they're ruining it. Yes, here's being sarcastic.

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Speaker 2: So like many others, my eyes at first opened with

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Speaker 2: exact moment I heard him under the words how many

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Speaker 2: girls do you know who actually have hobbies? A horrify

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Speaker 2: I gasp escaped my mouth, my crochet hook plummeted to

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Speaker 2: never had a hobby. However, the sentiment is neither new

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Speaker 2: No one was ready to learn that the female race

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Speaker 2: is void of any personal interests, at least a substance,

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Speaker 2: and she continues. Unlike women, men actually have real hobbies.

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Speaker 2: These superior pastimes include watching movies, buying smartphones, and looking

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Speaker 2: that's why I keep getting into accidents. But this can't

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Speaker 2: be bisexual eat hot chips and lie. So why can't

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Speaker 2: obviously all of these are very sarcastic in nature, and

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Speaker 2: because I don't do enough stuff. I just sit here.

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Speaker 1: Well, we talked about this too, because I also have

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Speaker 3: But it's less that they don't feel like hobbies to

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Speaker 3: like when I think of hobby, I think of.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh, you made like a lego, like you do legos'.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I.

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Speaker 1: Just have a very specific thing that comes to my head.

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Speaker 1: I would put like crocheting and stuff in there, absolutely right,

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Speaker 1: But the stuff I do should also be in there too,

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Speaker 2: including the sacred of all sacred hobbies gaming. When we've

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Speaker 2: but the problem in Genesis was it that Eve took

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Speaker 2: that she had the audacity to turn the MacBook on,

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Speaker 1: For this.

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Speaker 2: For this, women received the curse of painful childbirth and

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Speaker 2: the duty of homemaking, so that they would be too

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Speaker 2: But once they do things that men are interested in,

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Speaker 2: making sure. They don't really know about it. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: don't really know about this. They're faking it.

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Speaker 3: Especially if you're good.

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Speaker 1: Right, they're all fine to be like, Oh, she knows

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Speaker 1: how to play a Halo and then you kick it Halo.

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Speaker 2: I can't touch my games. Do touch my games? And

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Speaker 3: They break their TV?

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Speaker 1: Right yeah?

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Speaker 2: Right, Oh you gotta love it. So you know, with

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Speaker 2: all of that, let us know about your hobbies. How

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Speaker 2: are you distressing taking breaks or multitasking while trying to

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Speaker 2: it helped you? Do you have suggestions for us? And

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Speaker 2: injuring myself with my new hobbies? Also, any good recipes

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Speaker 1: Yes, and again I will happily take the bridge of

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