1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Ronanian before I go into a monologue and put everybody 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: to sleep. We started out with Tony and Tony Tony 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: kind of passed out. Is in the green room they're 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: thinking on that you put him to sleep? Yeah? Should 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: they just either that or the phone? The car Doctor, 6 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about the oil life 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: percentage um. How exactly is that percentage calculated? And is 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: there any point at all and using it. I'm not 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: a fan of the oil percentage monitors, Jeff, I'm just 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: not welcome to the radio home of Ron Andanian the 11 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls at eight five 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: five five six, and he running, Hey, it's time to 17 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: start your rang and so well, and welcome Roninting the 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: Car Doctor here at five zero nine nine zero zero. 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: What if I could do that in my sleep? You know? 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 1: I bet you if I hear the music, I'd be like, hey, running, 21 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor here a time to start 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: your rangsins. Ah, it's sort of become habit over the years. Um. 23 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: It is kind of weird though, because you drive around 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: during the course of the day, you're at work, and 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: you're listening to other radio stations, and you hear public 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: service announcements or you hear bits and pieces of Car 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: Doctor theme music, and right away your mind is going 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: three two, hey, running nating in the Car Doctor. You 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: kind of get into that. Yes, Tom, I know now 30 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: that Tony Tony and I can be expecting a phone 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: call from your wife at some point when you start 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: doing that in your sleep and something tells me we're 33 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: gonna show up for the show and you're gonna have 34 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: a black eye or two. Well, you never know it 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: would be. Um, I listened last night. Well that was 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: last night. That's a whole another story. I can't tell 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: you about that here on here it's family radio. But um, 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: in any event, Um, this is the Car Doctor that 39 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: this radio shows about about fixing your car. Card Doctor 40 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: show done. Come for more information Facebook podcasting however you 41 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: want to take it. Remember the nine zero number seven. 42 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: I know we have busy phones. You should know that 43 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: we're giving away a Wicks die cast car today because 44 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: I think I finally talked Tom and Tony to take 45 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: it out of their chubby little hands at the end 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: of this hour, So we're gonna be giving that away. 47 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: The thirty nine Ford Coop die Cast Car, the seventy 48 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: fifth anniversary thirty nine for die Cast Car courtesy the 49 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: folks at Wicks Wicks Filters dot com. But I want 50 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: to tell you this story because it's important and it's 51 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: it's a matter of it could be a matter of 52 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: life and death. And I'll tell you the story this way. 53 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: We had to take Mom to the doctor yesterday. It 54 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: was time for mom's regular doctor check up. She's nine 55 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: years old. Um, she's in a home now, and you know, 56 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: we we got her an aid and the aide showed up, 57 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: picked her up, and I was Mom was a little nervous, 58 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 1: so I, you know, Ronnie, meet me at the doctor. Okay. 59 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: So I met Mom and the aid at the doctor 60 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: and the physical, you know, the physical was okay, she's 61 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: she's and um they came out and the eight said, 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: let me go get the car so your mom doesn't 63 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: have to walk and I'll bring it to her. And 64 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, good idea. She goes to get the car, 65 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: and my phone rings two minutes later and it's the aid. 66 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: Her ignition key broke off in the lock cylinder trying 67 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: to start the car. Great, Now what do we do? 68 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: So I, you know, I put Mom back in the 69 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: doctor's office. You sit here and wait. The nurse came 70 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: out and waited with her, and I went down the 71 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: hill to to to get the car. And this was 72 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: a Honda. And this is why I want to do this, 73 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: because I think this is really important because here's a scenario. 74 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: It was. It was eighty eight almost ninety degrees yesterday 75 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: in North Jersey. It was very humid. Um, it was 76 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: It's tough for the older folks to get around. And 77 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, if if they didn't have me, if I 78 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: wasn't there, I can't imagine what would have happened. This 79 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: could have gotten ugly. If you look at a Honda, 80 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: if you're a Honda vehicle owner, and in the last 81 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: probably the last twenty years, a lot of them are 82 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: like this. They've got the remote built in and the 83 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: a metal portion of the key sticks out and it's 84 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: held in by um. You know, it gets gets pressed 85 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: into the plastic case and in the case is held 86 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: in by these two little tiny philip screws. So naturally, 87 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, the plastic gets all the plastic gets brittled, 88 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: the screws fall out, and now it has the ability 89 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: to flex and wiggle, and eventually you put the key 90 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: in and turn it and you will snap the plastic 91 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: head right off the key. The key, there isn't much 92 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: to it. It's a T shaped key, and that T 93 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: is in the bottom portion of the plastic and then 94 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: the rest of that plastic housing is the remote function 95 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: of the key and the chip for the anti theft. 96 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: So you know, listen, all mechanics have to have their 97 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: tools with them at all times. I my kids kid me, 98 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: but I I carry my man bag as we call it, 99 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: all right. It's a little black purse, little black satchel, 100 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: it's a shoulder bag. It's got everything in it. I've 101 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: got a jump box in it, a little short microstart 102 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: dextent from the folks at micro Start. Um, I've got 103 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: some I've got a leatherman in it, a leatherman way. 104 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: I've got a couple of flashlights with army knife and 105 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: a roll of electrical tape. You can do a lot 106 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: of things with electrical tape. All right, you can fix 107 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff in an emergency with a roll 108 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: of electrical tape. Okay. So I was able to just 109 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: push in and get the metal portion of the key 110 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: out of the lock cylinder. And you know, I how 111 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: do I? So I I took the remote apart. I 112 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: got the pieces that had fallen when I fell on 113 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: the floor. I also took off her nine keys that 114 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: she had on the end of the remote because too 115 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: much weight. It beats up the plastic. What I always 116 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: tell you guys about weight on keys. All right, it's 117 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: it's meant to be a singular key. Stop putting. You know, 118 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: you know the keys to the fortress on the end 119 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: of the right. There's Tom Ray. He's got a singular key. 120 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: Good boy, all right, think about all the weight on 121 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: that plastic. That plastic is brittle. And I got out 122 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: my roll of electrical tape and I taped it around 123 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: seven times this way and wrapped it around this way. 124 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: We got the car started no problem. She was able 125 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: to finish out the day with Mom. We went we 126 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: had Wendy's. You know, we got a cheeseburger from Mom. 127 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: Mom was very happy, and I sent them off their way, 128 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: and um, you know, solve the problem. The point is 129 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: what would have happened. You gotta think ahead. You gotta 130 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: look at your key, you know. And and and I 131 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: told me, I said, sweetheart, you gotta get this fixed. 132 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: And she says, I know I lost the other key 133 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: or the other key broke a couple of years back, 134 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: and I'm meaning to do this. Key maintenance is just 135 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: important as as as as vehicle maintenance. You gotta have 136 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: good keys, you gotta have a spare. Don't wait till 137 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: the last minute, because you never know, you might not 138 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: have a mechanic around. The funny part was she goes, 139 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: as I'm taking the key apart, and you know, I'm 140 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: at the tape and I'm big. She goes, oh, you're 141 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: a mechanic. Yeah, she goes, you fix cars something like that. 142 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: So and Mom just looked at me and I went, hey, 143 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: I you know, she goes, you didn't tell her. No, 144 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: I didn't tell her. What was I gonna say? So? 145 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: And I kind of let it go like that anyway, 146 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: So do key maintenance. It's important. Ed in Indiana, thank you. 147 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to get that out on the air. More 148 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: is a public safety thing. How can I help you 149 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: in your seven one fifty, sir? What's going on? Transmission? 150 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: Fluid is shild close to a court over level and 151 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: it's not getting out of second gear. It won't go 152 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: into third or over drive what you would recommend to start? Well? 153 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: Has anybody you know where that extra court of fluid 154 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: come from? Is anybody? I don't know? Okay. I had 155 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: to a oil occasionally, but says a long, long, long 156 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: neck funnel to put anything in the transmission. So I 157 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: don't know where it came from. It Is it backing 158 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: up from something? It's not working right? It does it? 159 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: Does it still look like trans fluid? D? Is it is? It? 160 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: Is it clean and pink? It's just got a high 161 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: level to it. Yeah, it's just high level. It smells good, 162 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: it looks good. It's you know, at pink color. Do 163 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: you know? Do you know what TRANSI is? Is this 164 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: the E four O D or is this the A 165 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: O D trans Oh? I don't know. We got a 166 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: five point though with an automatic over drive. Okay, so 167 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: this is probably the A O D. If you have 168 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: you ever looked at the transpan, I didn't see al there? Okay? 169 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: If you look at the trans pan is it Is 170 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: it long and rectangular or is it is it? Um? 171 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: Is it trunk? Had is a chamfort on each corner. 172 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: There's like a forty five degree angle on the edge 173 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: of the pan in each corner in the back of it. 174 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: I think right, it's chamfered in the corners. So that's 175 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: a that's an A O D. So this will have 176 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: a throttle valve cable and a throttle valve rod. So 177 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: the way this worked is there was a governor in 178 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: that trans that reacted to vehicle load and I'm sorry, 179 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: road speed and the throttle valve cable maintained pressure on 180 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: the throttle valve to react to vehicle load, so that 181 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, road speed worked against load and to help 182 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: determined shift point this There may be a mechanical failure here, 183 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: but you know, the basic things that you can go 184 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: through is um you know, check and make sure the 185 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: throttle valve cable is adjusted properly, that it hasn't stretched 186 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: out for some reason, and that it's moving freely. And 187 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: also down at the trans itself, so nobody will need 188 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: to check and make sure that the throttle valven the 189 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: trans is moving freely and not bound up. The other 190 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: thing that used to happen. Believe it or not, it's 191 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: gonna sound weird, is the governors would get loaded up 192 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: with debris and junk, and it usually happened as the 193 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: trans was approaching failure as they got older. And I mean, 194 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: I hate to bring it up, but one of the 195 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: things you could try is find a big, giant empty 196 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: park a lot. And I say this very seriously, a 197 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: big empty parking lot. Try driving in reverse, you know, 198 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: ten twelve, fifteen miles an hour on and off the 199 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: gas a couple of times. What you're doing is reverse 200 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: reverse through the governor in that trans will backflush the 201 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: governor and push any debris out, and the trans may 202 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: start to shift normal you know, second, third, third, overdrive, 203 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: et cetera. UM. Beyond that, it's gotta it's got to 204 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: be diagnosed, teared down to inspect, because I think you've 205 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: got something internal in the trends going on. The only 206 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: other question I've got as far as where that extra 207 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: fluid UH came from is, you know, is it possible 208 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: there's a trans cooler issue related to the radiator cooler 209 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: um itself. But you're saying the fluid is still pinks, 210 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: so it's it's not this color. I can't believe that 211 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: it's being contaminated with coolant um as a result of 212 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: a trans cooler failure in the bottom of the radiator. 213 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: All Right, sir, all right, I've always been impressed for 214 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: you think things through and want to once in there. 215 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: We are all right, see where we go, and we'll 216 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: talk about it next week. You take good care, yes, sir, 217 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: thank you. Ay five five zero nine zero. N the 218 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. We are back right after this. Whether it's 219 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: a little red Corvette or you go, you've come to 220 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: the right place to get that car fixed. Ron in 221 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: the car Doctor eight five five five zero nine nine 222 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: zero zero. Now back to Ron. Hey, welcome back, name 223 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. Let's go over and talk to Al 224 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: in Maryland. A broken key story is just like a 225 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: broken heart. A real welcome. Hi, Ron, long time listener, 226 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: and thanks for you a great show every time UM 227 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: got a broken key story. This one was kind of man. 228 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: It also leads to a question. Uh, as you know, 229 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: of course, one key operates the trunk, the doors, and 230 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,239 Speaker 1: the ignition. So I'm gonna shopping center, I go buy groceries, 231 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: I come out, I go to open the trunk, the 232 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: key breaks off in the in the in the trunk, 233 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: in the trunk lock. So now now I can't start 234 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: the car. And um, what saved my butt is that 235 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: years ago I started a practice of keeping a spare 236 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: key in my wallet. And if I didn't have that 237 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: spare key in my wallet, I'd have been stuck with 238 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, melted ice cream and you know, 239 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: rotten tomatoes in a parking lot at a grocery store 240 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: twenty miles from my house. And having that that spare 241 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: key allowed me to start the car and and get 242 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: the thing home. And that broken key is still in 243 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: the trunk lock, which leads to my question, and is 244 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: there some way to get that sucker onto there? Well, 245 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: the problem is can you you know what what your 246 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: car was? The broken key? It's okay, so can you 247 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: can you see the end of the key. You can 248 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: see the end, but it's flushed with the locks. There's 249 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: a magnet, won't pull it out. Um, there's no way 250 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 1: to grab it. Uh, it's inside. It broke off, flush 251 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: with the surface of the of the lock. Um, I mean, 252 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: the stupid things are what a what a what a 253 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: drop of crazy glue on the end of a piece 254 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: of wood, attach itself, give it enough just to jiggle 255 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: it and wiggle it and get it out. It's it's 256 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: it's probably it's probably jammed in there um that it's 257 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: it's just now you can open the trunk, I imagine 258 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: from the interior trunk release. That's it. That's what I do. 259 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: That's what I do. I opened it. That's the way, 260 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: and I just, you know, didn't mess with it. I 261 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: thought about that, you know, crazy glue at the end 262 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: of a nail or something to try to pull it out. 263 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: But you know, I you know, I wonder if you've 264 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: got the trunk open and you got the locked cylinder 265 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: out and laid it in a bath of oil or 266 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: some type of light solvent, because you've got to figure 267 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: there's believe it or not. And it's it's amazing. You 268 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: take a part of locks cylinder on a car after 269 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: it's been down the road for five years and then 270 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: ten years and fifteen, the amount of grit and contaminant 271 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: that's pushed in there by the airstream is staggering. You 272 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: don't realize it, uh, you know, the damage that gets 273 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: done and you just think, you know, if you get 274 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: free up the grit and then you know, maybe it 275 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: would just release. You know, when you push the key in, Um, 276 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: take your take your fingers and fold them, interlock them together, 277 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: and then push the key and you know, move your 278 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: fingers closer to you. That's the key kind of pushes 279 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: the tumblers in that direction. That's why you feel dragged 280 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: when you pull a key out, because that's the tumblers 281 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: releasing the key. So you know, now you've got to 282 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, now you've gotta put a little bit of 283 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: grit in there. You've got nothing to pull on it. Um, 284 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, listen, something we can that key to make 285 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: a break like that, And it was it was that 286 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: grit and that tumbler at action. And you know, getting 287 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: the cylinder a big deal. It didn't look like it's 288 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: easily bolt and it looked like it'd be a major 289 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: job taking that sucker around. Yeah, that might be a 290 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: bit of work, but we never said this was gonna 291 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: be easy. Yeah, you know, lever inside is much better. 292 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: But the marlin the story is, and I'm happy to 293 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: say this on your program, everybody who drives the car 294 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: or to have a spare key in their wallet because 295 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: godally knows this is gonna happen. I mean, if it 296 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: happened to me and it happened to you, godly knows 297 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: how many people who have been sucking parking lots unable 298 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: to start the car because the key broke. Well, and 299 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: I go back, I go back to the day and age. Listen. 300 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: I remember my Chevy pickup when I bought it new, 301 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: they gave you a plastic key, just like you're describing, 302 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: and it was it was in your wallet. It was 303 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: it was the thickness of the credit card. But it 304 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: would be enough to open the door and you could 305 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: get the door open with that. But I go back 306 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: to the day when we had when we had you know, 307 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: hia keys who who remembers hie to keys? Right, and 308 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: you'd you'd you'd stick that's I. You think I'm underneath 309 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: the friend of well, you know it's every one of 310 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: my kids went to college. Every car had a hide 311 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: the key in a spot with duct tape to five 312 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: dollar bills two quarters. Of course, I'm going back to 313 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: the time before cell phones were that popular and they 314 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: need to change for cell phones. Uh you know, yeah, 315 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: it's yeah. Cars had spare tires. It was a whole 316 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: lifestyle thing man, but they're very different. But yeah, you're right. 317 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: Now the problem becomes, you know, to have that spare 318 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: key in your wallet. That's great, but what are you 319 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: do when you've got a smart kid. Yeah, well, you 320 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: know us old timers who still drive the old ones. 321 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: You know, when I get a new, old car, the 322 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: first thing I do is go down to Walmart or 323 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: a local hardware store. I get a spare key made, 324 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: and I put that sucker in my wallet. But one 325 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: of these newer cars that got always you know, electronic gismos, 326 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: I know what the heck you do on that. I'll 327 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: tell you. One of the dumbest things I saw this 328 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: week was someone rented a car from Enterprise. I gotta, 329 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: I gotta call Enterprise out on this, and because I've 330 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: seen them do this before, and she was showing either 331 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: the rental car and I looked at it. Enterprise, when 332 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: you rent the car from them, I know why they 333 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: do it, but to me, it's it's self defeating. They 334 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: you get two keys with the car, and the two 335 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: keys are safety wired together so you don't you don't 336 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: lose them. And I'm like, yeah, but if you lose 337 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: the first one, you're gonna lose the second one. I mean, 338 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not the brightest bulb in the ship, 339 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: but I can figure that one out. Uh yeah, right, Um, 340 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't understand that. That's that's 341 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: that's the government processing at work. So you know, if 342 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: it was me, i'd cut the safety wire, put one 343 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: in the glove box and the other one, you know, 344 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: carry it on your person. But keys are gonna be 345 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: a problem in the future. You can see it coming. 346 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: And you know, I read a report a while ago 347 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: that actually talked about what the manufacturers are going to 348 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: get to think about this. You see it in computers 349 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: all right. A matter of fact, I just brought a 350 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: new computer at micro enter Um, a Windows ten machine. 351 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: Ron's gonna come into this this this century and get 352 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: Windows going right. It's like um and they were explaining 353 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: the Windows tenure. Are there any discs in the box? 354 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: And they said, no. What you have to do is 355 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: you take the product key, you set up an account 356 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: at Microsoft, and when you want to download the new 357 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, like if you have to download or reinstall 358 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: the operating system, you yeah, you can bring it down 359 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: that way and just download it and install it. That way. 360 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: You can see you can't get discs anymore. The car 361 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: companies are gonna do the same thing. You're gonna be 362 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: able to call up a car company and go, hey, 363 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: it's al my whatever, I I broke the key, I 364 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: lost the key, I locked the key out of the car, 365 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: opened the door, and start the engine for me. You 366 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: can see it coming. They're gonna they're gonna have to 367 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: require some form of positive identification, and it will happen, 368 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be very interesting to see how well 369 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: they can carry that out. Al I appreciate it. Keys. 370 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: We can talk about this forever. Um, we can talk 371 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: about this forever, brother, but uh um, you can see 372 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: what a problem Keys will become. Uh you know, in 373 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: the next ten years until we get to that point. 374 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: Let's just go to Star Trek. Now, right in Star Trek, 375 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: there's no money, all right. I've never seen them use 376 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: a key to start the enterprise. Why is that? He 377 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: just gets in the chair and he says, warp drive. Now, 378 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: how come there's no turn the keys smart button? Because 379 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 1: it evolved from this Star Trek really happens that they 380 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: came back in time. Anyway, that's a whole another story. 381 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: I'm on any of the car Doctor. We'll be back 382 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: to talk to Brian and Butler right after this. Don't 383 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: go away the wow, what the heck was that? Did you? Tony? 384 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. I don't know if you saw it, 385 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: but you put the on air light. All the lights 386 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: and or flashed and that was kind of exciting. Now 387 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: that we're on live radio, we're still on the air. Good, 388 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: let's go and see if we can take a phone call. 389 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if the computers are gonna work. Um, 390 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: this will be exciting. Brian Butler, New Jersey seventeen Mustang 391 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: g T. Brian, you're there, sir, Yes, I am. Well 392 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: that was kind of a trip. Man. It was like, wow, 393 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: what happened? Understorm around? So yeah, there's something going on. 394 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: So what's cooking? Man? What can I do? I have 395 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: that two thousand seventeen Mustang GT. And now I see 396 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: and know these American muscle catalogs and stuff that these 397 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: air oil separators a K catch cans and people are using. 398 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: And I was just wondering what was your take on these? 399 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: I think, you know what oil separators I think have 400 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: an application in performance vehicles, but you know, on a 401 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: street vehicle. You know, I think there's a lot of 402 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: other things you can do. Are you trying to get 403 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: more horsepower out of it? I mean, I know, I 404 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: just figured that. You know if if you know, some 405 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: people think that it'll keep the engine cleaner, you know 406 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: with quick is that oil is going into the combustion 407 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: chamber and burn it, you know, burning out. So um, 408 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: I think for the work that they're gonna cause if 409 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: there's let me let me say it like this, if 410 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: there there's a direct bolt on. Yeah, let's talk about 411 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: what an oil separator. An oil separator the ideas on 412 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 1: a on a on a crank case ventilation system instead 413 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: of drawing, instead of drawing oil, air and oil together 414 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: back into the engine to burn, it's it's you're separating 415 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: the oil out of the air so it falls by 416 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: the wayside, stays in the crank case. And now you're 417 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: drawing less oil, more air, and and and you're you're 418 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: you're you're venting the crank case in a cleaner manner. 419 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: If I can say it like that, well, you're holding 420 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: it in a can. Now they have a little hand 421 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: that you unscrew and then you can dump it dump 422 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: the oil out right. Um. Now, well some separators would 423 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: also you know, drain it back into the crank case 424 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: as well. So this one the ones I'm looking at, 425 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: or just like plug and play, it takes five minutes 426 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: to install them, and like every oil change, you just 427 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: unscrew it, dump it out, and put it back together. Yeah, 428 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: and I wonder if you know, if if you're gonna 429 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: do that to me? Okay, same same idea. I just 430 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: they're just they're just adding a step to it. Um. 431 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: I don't think you'll ever notice a difference. I think 432 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: for what they're going to do for you, I think 433 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: you're gonna find, you know, on a regular basis using 434 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: some sort of a top end engine cleaning or a 435 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: fuel system cleaning. I think you're going to Yeah, I 436 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: think I think you're gonna have the same benefit if 437 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: if I was interested in increasing longevity and a performance 438 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: application like yours, your vehicle is screaming for a super 439 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: chip flashback. Um, you know, I've got to tell you 440 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it's looking for you know, dial 441 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: up some horsepower via the computer and performance and and 442 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. That's where I would go 443 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: with that. I Mustang g T you know, put on 444 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: your Steve McQueen goggles and uh, you know, look cool. 445 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,160 Speaker 1: Um you know? Um right, um, you know that's where 446 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: I would go. I would go out. I would go 447 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: out the super Chips dot com, do some reading and 448 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: find a flashpack for that car to go and put 449 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: a an oil separator on it. I don't know that 450 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: you really needed. I think there's other ways to go 451 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: about to accomplish what you want to accomplish. Um. Uh, 452 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: And you'd be good from there, all right, sir? Yep? Okay, 453 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: I take you take good care, yes, sir, okay, Let's 454 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: go and talk to Thomas in May No. Six Ford Expeditions. Yes, yes, 455 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: thank you for calling. I have that two thousand and 456 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: six for the expedition. And uh, I have a problem 457 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: with the the air bag light was on and the 458 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: horn didn't work. They told me to replace the air bag. Um. 459 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: I replaced the air bag and had it flashed and 460 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: you know, at another garage. And now they tell me 461 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: that the I'm getting juice up to the thing in 462 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: the air bag that makes the horn work, but it's 463 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: not going from there into the relay to make the 464 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: horn work. Okay, So The simple question is, so, so 465 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 1: somebody told the airbag pad itself was bad, the air 466 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: bag was bad, the the horn didn't work, the airbag 467 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: light was on. Do you know what fault code you had? No, 468 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: they didn't tell me. Okay, so this, you know, think 469 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: of the airbag as a horn button. It's just it's 470 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: the same thing that you've had in a car for 471 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: years and years and years. Right. So you know, the 472 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: simple test is that when the airbag was out, the 473 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: first thing I would have done is, you know, looking 474 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: at the wiring horns, I would have figured out what's 475 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: the ground connection for the air bag, and I would 476 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: have just grounded it at the connector minus the air 477 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: bag and see if the horn blew. You know, you're 478 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: just you're bypassing the contact and the in the air 479 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: bag at that step. Um, I'm gonna guess and say 480 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: you used the new airbag, correct, No, I didn't. I 481 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: used to use one, right, And that's why I always 482 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: test the horns the way I just described it, because 483 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, there's no rule that says that that replacement 484 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: bag was any good. You got it out of a 485 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: salvage yard. So you know, now somebody's got to take 486 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: it back apart again and test the wiring harness going down. 487 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: They're telling you that the wiring harness from the bag 488 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: down to the relay has a problem. And if I 489 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: understand you correctly, Um, yes, yes, But they set was 490 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: getting juice up into the steering we go to the connector, 491 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: you know, plugs into the bag. They said they got 492 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: juice there, but they going to you know, from there. Okay, So, 493 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: so well, it doesn't make any sense if they're and 494 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 1: I believe it's ground. I believe we're looking for ground. 495 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: I believe the airbag grounds the horn relay in that 496 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: in that application. Um So, if you've got power coming 497 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: up but not going down, then where's the power coming from. 498 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: Somebody's not. Somebody's not you know, it's like the power 499 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: can't show up in the middle of the wire and 500 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: then not go back down. You know, somebody's somebody's not 501 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: explaining this properly or looking at the circuit properly. So 502 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: let's start over. Okay, let's go back to the shop 503 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,239 Speaker 1: that did the airbag. Tell them, let's rediagnose this and 504 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: ask them when you take the air bag out, if 505 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: you find the ground leg of the relay. You should 506 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: be able to ground it and get the horns to blow, 507 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: all right. Think of it like, do you know do 508 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: you know what a relay does? Tom us? Do you 509 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: know the purpose? Okay? A relay is a switch. When 510 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: you walk into her. When you walk into your house 511 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: tonight and you flick the light switch, that's a relay, 512 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: all right. You took you took electrical energy from one side, 513 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: you transferred it to the other side to turn the 514 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: lights on. The the relay action was the movement of 515 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: the switch itself that that flipped the context. An automotive 516 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: relay typically a typical automotive relay will have four posts. 517 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: It will feed power in on one leg, all right. 518 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: It will have and then it'll have a switch side. 519 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: It will be power coming in a ground. When you 520 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: apply ground, the voltage flows from the one side across 521 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: the coil closes the contact and takes that high voltage 522 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: source and feeds it out to the other. In this case, 523 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: the horns and the horns blow. So that ground trigger 524 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: that closes the relay contacts, or like the light switch 525 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: in your house, is what's going to allow the horn 526 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: to blow. You can duplicate that horn trigger that ground 527 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: by just applying the ground, or if the air bag 528 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: is working properly, pushing the air bag that makes ground 529 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: that makes the horn circuit work. They can test that 530 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: when it's apart. And that's what they need to do, 531 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: all right, because somehow the way somebody's explaining that doesn't 532 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: make any sense to me. Okay, So have them take 533 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: the air bag out and test it out of the car, right, 534 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: test the circuit we want to test, not the air bag. 535 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: We want to test the air bag circuit that feeds 536 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: the horns with the air bag out of the car. 537 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: And the reason it has to be out of the 538 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: cars because they have to get to it. It's underneath 539 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: the air bag. That's where it plugs in circuit. Bag 540 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: circuit we want to check. We want to have somebody 541 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: test the air bag horn circuit, and the air bag 542 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: has to be out of the car in order to 543 00:26:54,359 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: do that. All right, it lcome you let me know 544 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: what happens. Zero zero. We're back right after this. What's 545 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: more fun than listening to Ron and Ay in the 546 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: car doctor and getting that car fixed? Right A five 547 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: five five zero zero zero, Give Ron a call. Now 548 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: back to Ron, Ron and new Hampshire, Europe. Next, what's 549 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: going on? How you doing? Ron I have a ninety 550 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: four Explorer motor in a ninety Bronco too. The the 551 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: whole truck has been completely modified, so it's really hard 552 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: to diagnose a is according to the UH. But at 553 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: any rate, this just started to happen going down the 554 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: road at minimum throttle and it, jerk said, lunches, not badly. 555 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: You can just feel it like it's it's shifting gears. 556 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: But it's not shifting gears. It's something's going on, either 557 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: electronically or fuel wise. So I changed the fuel filter 558 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: and I even opened went into the tank and checked 559 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: all the circuit try for the pump, for the fuel 560 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: pump in the center unit and all that sort of thing. 561 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: Everything checked out. Well, drove it and miraculously it disappeared. 562 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: But it's back. Okay, So let me ask you this. 563 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: You got a fuel pressure tap on this engine? Yes? 564 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: I do. Can we hook up a fuel pressure gage 565 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: and go for a ride and see if pressures dropping off? 566 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: I haven't done that, but that has been on my 567 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: mind to do. Just yeah, I would. I would do that, 568 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: and then the other thing I would think about is 569 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: even though I know this is a modified vehicle, and 570 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I can imagine the detail, you know, 571 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: the care that was taken to do the do the swap. UM, 572 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: it's New Hampshire. I always, you know, whenever I get 573 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: calls from you know, state, New Hampshire, Vermont, et cetera, 574 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: New Jersey, New York. You know we're in the rust belt. UM. 575 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: I always think about cleanliness of grounds on older, older 576 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: vehicles and how it can affect warmans and you know 577 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: some of those things. So I want to just be 578 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: aware of that. UM, that is an EKE four system. 579 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: That's an older four E four system. That ground at 580 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: the battery cable, that negative battery cable is everything to 581 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: that car. UM. What I've done is I've gone around 582 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: the vehicle, so I've with super heavy gauge wire. I've 583 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: grounded engine to frame, body to frame. UM. You know, 584 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: just basically doing what you're talking about is normally you 585 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: get a problem like that, it's a ground somewhere right. Well, 586 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: but but the issue or something, you know, if ground 587 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: one oh three and I don't know this on this 588 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: vehicle now anymore, but if G one oh three was 589 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: the ground at the left rear corner of the cylinder 590 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: head and it's corroded. The computer needs to see a 591 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: clean G one oh three, um, because if you grounded 592 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: the front corner of the cylinder head with a good 593 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: quality ground going to the frame reel, that made good 594 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: ground contact. But if ground one oh three, which is 595 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: the ground for the PCM at the back of the 596 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: cylinder head, is still corrode it, it's still it's still corroded. 597 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: It's not it's not getting through it. You know, in 598 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: terms of the resistance value, it doesn't change anything. So 599 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, having good grounds is important, but cleaning the 600 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: existing grounds is more so if you follow what I'm saying. 601 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: I took the dash out, um because I was getting 602 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: so frustrated with this thing and just started That's what 603 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: I do. I chear things apart and I put them 604 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: back together and when they came out, uh you know. Anyway, 605 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: I got in there and I checked all the grounds. 606 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: I checked the PCM ground on the passenger side. I've 607 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: gone through everything in the backside of the dash. Make 608 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: sure you know, I didn't have any chasing and the 609 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: grounds are right and all the rest of it, and 610 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: I've cleaned them off. But you're talking about a ground 611 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: that's by the battery. Well, well the main ground, the 612 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: main EAG four ground. All right, that's an EQUE four system. 613 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: There should be a pigtail coming off the negative battery cable. 614 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: There is, okay, and that pigtail it would look like 615 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: a press pull um quick disconnect and that that that 616 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: should go to the frame or that should go to 617 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: that was chassis ground for the E four computer. If 618 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: that's dirty, loose corroded battery sid worked its way up 619 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: the wire, creates high resistance across it, all sorts of 620 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: weird things will happen with that car. You know it was. 621 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: It was bad ten years ago when those cars were 622 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: twenty years old. Now they're thirty years old, it's got 623 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: to be worse. So that four ground was one of 624 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: the first grounds we always tested. Now, can you still 625 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: do eeke for self test on this car with a 626 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: scan tool? I don't have a really sophisticated stand tool. 627 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: It don't b D O, b D one and two. 628 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: But it's not really sophisticated. I don't know if I 629 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: can or not. Well, you know it. Do you still 630 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,959 Speaker 1: have the connector in the harness? Yeah, that's right here 631 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. Okay, you know, and if you 632 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: look at it, is it is it corroded? Or is 633 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: the cover still on the connector? Oh? No, that it's 634 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: it's in really good shape. Okay. I would you know 635 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: what before you beat your brains in because it sounds 636 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: like this is your hot raw, I would get out 637 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: on eBay or somewhere and I would find I would 638 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: find a decent quality used or something new, you know 639 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: at O B D one. That's what this is quality 640 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: scan tool. I go see if I can find one 641 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: of the OTC monitors, the OTC monitor family of scan tools. 642 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: Back in the day. They were state of the art. 643 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: With the plug in cartridges. You'll find it real. You'll 644 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: find them real cheap on eBay. I'm sure find something 645 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: in good shape and I would scan this for codes. 646 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: I would hook a fuel pressure to this car. I 647 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: would see what fuel pressure is. Keep in mind with 648 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: this car, you may not be able to find what's 649 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: right what's bad until you figure out what's wrong. Knowing 650 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: what's good helps eliminate and you can focus on and 651 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: find what's bad. Do the do those tests for me. 652 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: I'm up against the clock today, ron do those tests 653 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: for me and we can talk next week. By the way, 654 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: stay on the line. You'll be getting the nine Ford 655 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: coupe from the cope from the folks at Wicks courtesy 656 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: of Wicks Wiks Filters dot com. Tom and Tony say 657 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: you are the winner either that they're done playing with it, 658 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: so make sure that when they send you works that 659 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: Tom and Tony haven't taken parts off it like they 660 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: did the last time. But day on the line. That's 661 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: courtesy the folks over at Wicks Works Filters dot com. 662 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: Run and maybe that'll help alleviate some of your pain. 663 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm roning ay in the car doctor. We are back 664 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: right after this suck back. Let's wind it up with 665 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: Mike from Dnella, New Jersey. Mike, Welcome back, sir. What's 666 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: going on right? I was thinking about this the other 667 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: day and I was talking about stop start technology. Have 668 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: you worked doing any cars that employee that? Yeah? Just 669 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: but normal maintenance stuff yet Michael, we haven't seen, you know, 670 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: any real failures. Maybe I think we've done a couple 671 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: of batteries, but nothing more than that. But you know, 672 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? Yeah? Because what I understand is, 673 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 1: you know the accessory built you know, runs everything when 674 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: the engine runs, but after the engine shuts off to 675 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: there's a couple of motors that run the accessories, like 676 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: the eighth C and all that. And they say that 677 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: the batteries are quite a bit bigger. Yep, the batteries 678 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: are bigger, the starters are more expensive. Here's the here's 679 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: the part that that that bothers me about start stop Michael. 680 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: And you know it's funny. We're we're we're probably going 681 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: to replace the Malibu this year because it's it's you know, 682 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: it's got a buck seventy five on it and needs. Yeah, 683 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's time and Mama wants a new car. 684 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: And I get that happy wife, happy life. And and 685 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: I can say that she never listens to the show. Um, 686 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: you know she'll say, well, you know it's you know 687 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: what you do on the show today, nothing, honey. Um. 688 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: So you know, we're looking at start stop technology. We're 689 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: looking at Ford edges as a matter of fact. And 690 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: I've told her, no, we don't want to start stop vehicle. 691 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: And and part of that reason is simply because you 692 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: know what that car has to go through. You know, 693 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: the average car cranks, you m right to start. The 694 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: start stop technology cars crank at a minimum of a 695 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: thousand rpm. It's instant, it's bang, it's right there. And 696 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: you know that bothers the heck out of me. I 697 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: can't imagine where that vehicle is gonna be. You know, 698 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: we've we've put a hundred seventy five miles on that Malibu. 699 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: It's fifteen years. Where is that stop start car going 700 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: to be in a hundred and seventy five thousand miles? 701 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: How many starters will we have had to put in it? 702 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: Because and that starter is not cheap, that starts well 703 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: over a thousand bucks. The batteries are not cheating. You know, 704 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: the price of that technology for what it's trying to achieve, 705 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: I can't see it. I think there's got to be 706 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: an alternative. And I think there's safety concerns. I think 707 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: there's places and moments where you don't want to start 708 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: stop you should be given a switch. I appreciate your thoughts, Michael, 709 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 1: I gotta go. I'm run any of the car. Doctor. 710 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: The mechanics aren't expensive that price. Let's see you