1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: At least. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Williamson on your home of the Black and Gold Steelers 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:38,959 Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here 4 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson and Matt. They were an interesting day 5 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: for the Steelers today. Vince Williams going on the reserve 6 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: COVID list today. That leaves the Steelers without their top 7 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: three inside linebackers for this for this game upcoming game 8 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: against the Buffalo Bills. That means that Avery Williamson and 9 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: uh likely Mark Allen will be the two starters. Yeah. Um, 10 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: Now we'll see what happens with Ulysses Gilbert. Uh. He 11 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: was started practicing yesterday. He's still on the injured reserve 12 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: list with that back issue, but watching him move around 13 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: a little bit, he looks good. Um. I have high 14 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: hope for him still, but but I don't expect him 15 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: to throw him right into the starting lineup coming off 16 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: of I R. No. That's a lot to ask. And 17 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: good thing they traded for Williamson first of all, correct, 18 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why you do these things and insurance policies, 19 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: and I even think Kevin and whoever kind of mentioned 20 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: insurance when they made the trade. Yeah, and you know, 21 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: you don't know how things are gonna go, but you'll 22 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: lose your top dog and you have the experience in 23 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: the front office to realize this could go south quick, 24 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: you know. So let's and and they brought Williamson along. Well, 25 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think he's now he's a 26 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: definitely an every down player, but he was trending more 27 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: that way each week. Yeah, the last two weeks they've 28 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: they've mixed him into the into the equation. Of course, 29 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: he played almost the entire second half against Washington last 30 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: week after Spelaine went out with the knee injury. Also today, 31 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: Chase Claypool not practicing because of an illness. Now obviously 32 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: that's not Yeah, obviously you know they're just listening that 33 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: as an illness at this point, so that you know, 34 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: they told him to stay home. I'm sure he came 35 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: in and got tested, of course, you know, because you 36 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: have to. Uh so, but you hope he doesn't pop 37 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: positive tomorrow or Yeah, I mean Chris Chris Warmly didn't 38 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: practice yesterday because of an illness, was back at practice today. People, 39 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: people get sick of this. The only thing the fact 40 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: that he he you know, was sent home today and 41 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: didn't test positive is a positive thing. Yeah, it's guys 42 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: miss practice all the time with illnesses. This year our 43 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: antenna up a little bit more regarding this. Yeah, but 44 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: I also think we need to remember what he was 45 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: like pre COVID. He's a rookie, like you mentioned in 46 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: Tomlin's history of playing rookies, didn't play a lot of 47 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: snaps last weekend. Was he not feeling great? I mean, 48 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think he got danged 49 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: up a little bit in the first half of that game, 50 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: and I think that's why he wasn't out there on 51 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: a full time basis, because other otherwise he's he's been 52 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: a guy who's gotten a lot of snaps. As part 53 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: of that, I thought was a compliment to Washington too. Yeah, 54 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: we sit here and we talk about what they gotta 55 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: figure out, why to get James Washington on the field. Well, 56 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: somebody has to be on the field, right. It's hard 57 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: to get the best five on the field on that 58 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: offense when four of them are receivers, you know. So 59 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: again it's a good problem to have, but you be 60 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: better if there was more, you know, a stud somewhere else. Possibly, 61 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: but you know, it's such a life. I mean, no 62 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: one's complaining about having Chase Claypool, Ben Roethlisberger back at 63 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: practice today, Chris Boswell back at practice city. That's a 64 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: good sign for them as well, um that they're gonna 65 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: need the place kicker. The only two guys along with 66 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: Claypool listed his d nps were Spillane, which he's not 67 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: going to play this this week. We're probably next, but 68 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: he's not going to I R as far as you know, Okay, 69 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: that's promising. I mean, by the look of it, what 70 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: had happened live, it's a yeah, it's a spring knee. Uh. 71 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: And then Joe Hayden did not practice with a concussion. 72 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: But he's trending in the right direction. Good good, So 73 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: but you know, you never know what those things. I mean, 74 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: they could have that you could have a bad day 75 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: to right, so he could be good for three straight 76 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: days and have a bad day and be a setback. 77 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: So we won't know that one until we know. It's 78 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: before COVID. We used to talk about that a lot, 79 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: like right, don't get too excited about and now it's 80 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: kind of taken a back seat, but it hasn't changed 81 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: I make concussions are still a little bit up in 82 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: the air. They're gonna need a good corner play, and 83 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: a good corner play I don't in terms of stopping 84 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: the run, not having Vince Williams or or Robert Spillaine 85 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: in this game is not It's not that big of 86 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: a deal, but it would be nice that it would 87 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: be nice. Yeah, be nice to have them because, as 88 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: you said, you're the top three inside linebackers. Because one 89 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: thing that the that the Bills will do is they 90 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: run a lot of crossing rocks they do. The recognition 91 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: on the second level will be difficult for them. And 92 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 1: you're talking about off the air. That's a cool Beasley special, 93 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: but you'll also see digs on a lot of in 94 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: breaking routes behind the linebackers a little. Those are the 95 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: those are the throws. If you watch Alan this year, 96 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: he's really yeah, he's anticipated, well, he throws it out 97 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: in front um. But they'll layer their routes a lot 98 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: and put those those linebackers a conflict. Should I backpedal 99 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: and try to take away the deep one and then 100 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: he throws the short there's a right answer, And obviously 101 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: there's other people on the field, their safeties and you know, 102 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: slot corners to help you, but they do put you 103 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: at conflict a lot, and the inexperience worries me a linebacker. 104 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: Not necessarily the speed or athleticism. They're actually probably more Yeah, 105 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: they're probably more speedy, more athletic than than what they 106 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: would have been. But they lose a lot in experience. 107 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: With Vince Williams out there, plain not so much. But 108 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: Vince Williams, yes, played a lot of snaps lately too. 109 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean, Avery Williamson has played a lot of snaps 110 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: in the league, just not a lot of snaps in 111 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: this defense. Wonder how many times he's played Bills. Oh well, 112 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean that's you know, he has some familiar I 113 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: mean he played in this in the same division. Obviously 114 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: didn't play last year, but two years prepared for the 115 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: Bills twice, and I believe he played them earlier this 116 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: year twice. I think, So, don't check that. So, but 117 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: that's one perk there. Yeah, so you get a little 118 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: something there, um in terms of recognition. Here's what we did, 119 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: even though I say it didn't work. But that second 120 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: matchup against the Jets wasn't so great. Yeah, the Bills 121 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: didn't move the ball real well, No, you know, I 122 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: mean they came up with some stuff. I'm sure. I'm 123 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: sure he has some insights and certainly some familiarity with 124 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: how they want to play offense. Certainly what a lot 125 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: of those guys will tell you. And it's certainly more 126 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: of a lamar Vic thing or even Cam Newton that 127 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: it's hard to play against those guys just watching them 128 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: on tape, But when you see them live there faster 129 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: than your thought, you know they're more athletic than you thought. 130 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: And I'm sure playing against Allen has some benefits of 131 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: at least you know what he's like on the field. Yeah. 132 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: The last time he played against I think it was 133 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: a last game as a jet. Avery Williamson had thirteen 134 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: tackles in that game. Okay, he was very active in 135 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: that game. Uh. And the Bills won that game eighteen 136 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: to ten. Yeah, so I mean holding eighteen you'll be 137 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: doing the Steelers hold them the eighteen they win this game. 138 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: The Bills in that game had uh, they did have 139 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: four two yards of offense, but again only eighteen points. 140 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: Um didn't exactly helped cause on offense and hold the 141 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: ball either. The Jets had two twenty yards of offense 142 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: and that you were on the field a lot. Yeah 143 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: that makes sense. So, um, back to the inside linebacker conversation. 144 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: I'm not real thrilled with Alan's play, and I'm not 145 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: either felt like that was not a wasted experiment, but 146 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: it failed one. You know that he's a special teamer, 147 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: and now that to me, that's the thing you don't 148 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: like about this Williamson thing doesn't bother me. But I've 149 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: I've kind of held a candle for Gilbert for a 150 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: while now, you know, And I'm I'm optimistic. Bob's ley 151 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: it out well that that that's a guy that really 152 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: could have used the preseason, and I think that's a 153 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: dred percent true. But I like the way he runs 154 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: around and every time I've seen him out there, he 155 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: makes plays. So I've always had some optimism. But he 156 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: has even less experience than Alan. That's the problem. I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 157 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: So I'm sure he'll make some mental errors, that's the problem, 158 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: and you don't want those turning into touchdowns. But in 159 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: taste of you know, a foot race with Alan or 160 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: Singletary or Moss or Beasley, I mean, I like his chances. Yeah, 161 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: I I do as well, and so, um, we'll see 162 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: how much of he has worked into the package. I 163 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: expect him to be activated at some point. It's week. 164 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: They almost have to. They may they may not have 165 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: been the playing going into the week, but it's certainly 166 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: got I wonder if you're gonna play more, you know, 167 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: almost like a five one yeah. Um. They've also played 168 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: a lot of three and four receiver sets. They've also 169 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: played uh at times. Um in camp I saw any 170 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: well at Denny lineup it inside linebacker at times. Yeah. Um, 171 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: So they could do that in a pinch. So they 172 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: have a little bit of you know something, It's something, 173 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: but it's not ideal. It's like it's like when you 174 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: know when when they first signed Arthur Moates most played 175 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: some inside linebacker as well. That's not what he does best. 176 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: He was a college defensive end, much like Denny. You're 177 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: taking a college defensive you should do right. Yeah, I 178 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: mean Chris Rock has a bit about it. You could 179 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: drive a car with your feet, but it doesn't make 180 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, uh, not that boats was that bad obviously 181 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: about picking up motes. Um, but yeah, I mean I 182 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: guess you're there's gonna be some round holes in square pegs. 183 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: And you know what, I thought maybe even Vince Williams 184 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: would factor in as that route right outside linebacker at times. Yeah, 185 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: well that's not gonna happen. Yeah, you know, as a 186 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: pass rusher and snaps here and there. So you're pretty 187 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: darn thin, I mean anyone. I don't like that they 188 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: call their outside linebackers outside linebackers because they don't back 189 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: the lines the personal peeve, but if you look at 190 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: the O l b s and the I l b s, 191 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: it's not so great right now. Besides d J. Watt, Yeah, 192 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: not what you certainly know what you started the season with. 193 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: And uh yeah in terms of the bills, Um, I'm 194 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: looking here to get there situation. I know that you 195 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: know Allen was banged up. They there practice yesterday was 196 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: expected was a walk through. Yeah they're coming. They didn't 197 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: they didn't have a serious practice, so you know Monday 198 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: nighter for them to um. So what they listed guys 199 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: as yesterday was not exactly telling per se um. You know, 200 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: you can list a guys whatever while you look. I 201 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: want to throw a couple of nuggets out there, just 202 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: what to expect from this offense too, is even though 203 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: John Brown Brown is out, they're gonna live in three 204 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: receiver sets and sometimes even four. Um, they have a 205 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: gadget guy that they put out there kind of like 206 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: mccleoud at times, and we'll hand him jet sweeps and 207 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: things along those lines. Gabriel Davis has kind of become 208 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: their on Brown deep threat. Diggs is the do at 209 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: all intermediate true number one. And who's a receiver. I'm 210 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: forgetting the top head. Oh Beasley is obviously this loot 211 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: short range guy. Yeah. Today it was they had their 212 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: regular practice today. Josh Allen was a full participant. He's 213 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: got the knee and ankle issues. Um, that's worth watching. 214 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: John Feliciano, who was a listed as a full participant yesterday, 215 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: the guard uh, was a limited participant today, So there 216 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: you go with that. With that, he's got knee and 217 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: foot issues. Not a great player, but starter. Yeah. Um, 218 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: once again Jake from limited not injury related. Strange. I 219 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: wonder if that's how they list their illnesses or something day. Yeah, 220 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even know why why you would 221 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: list that unless they just maybe they tell their third 222 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: string quarterbacks just stay away and you're always. I don't 223 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: know enough about their inter from what we get. Uh. 224 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: Quentin Jefferson, who's a starting defensive tackle, was listed as 225 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: did not practice yesterday with a hip injury. He was 226 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: limited today as well, Sake one or Jakwan Johnson. I'm sorry, 227 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: the safety with the ankle injury did not practice again. 228 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: And Andre Roberts with the achilles injury was limited as 229 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: well as he was yesterday. And he's a returner and 230 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: basically that's all he does now, and they have enough 231 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: for seens ahead of him that he hasn't gonna feel 232 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, John Brown aside, who's on a R. 233 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: They're pretty healthy. You know, they've got their linebackers back 234 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: now and all in all, they don't have a whole 235 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: lot of major injury concerns in Buffalo. They do not, um, 236 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: although you know they do have some guys on I 237 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: R s. Everybody doesn't this time of the year. Uh, 238 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: And that would include John Brown, Um, Terrell Dodson, Cody Ford, 239 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgkins, Cam Lewis and del Shan Phillips are the 240 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: other guys, so not nearly right, let me consider them. 241 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: We're brown is the Brown is the big one Brown 242 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: is a big one. Um. Before this last week or two, 243 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: I really thought it was obvious that they were a 244 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: different team with without John Brown, And you're starting to 245 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: make up for it a little bit. Gabriel Davis is 246 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: there peppering, peppering with targets when they have I think 247 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: it's like nine targets a game when when Brown is out. 248 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: That doesn't surprise me. I mean, it's just a lot 249 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: this past week in San Francisco because teams are gonna 250 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: try to take uh digs out of the game. You're 251 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: not gonna you don't want to give up anything over 252 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: the top the digs, so you're gonna give up those 253 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 1: short crossers and tackle. Yeah. I mean the Steelers deal 254 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: with that too. I mean someone tries to take away 255 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: Deonte or Claypool. Juju has a big game. I mean, 256 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: Diggs is a little clearer of a number one than 257 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: what the Steelers have. But it's the same problem when 258 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: you have three, four or five quality receivers. You can't 259 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: take them all the way and you can't pick and choose, 260 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: and when your quarterback's hot, he's going to hit them. 261 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: And boy was Alan hot this last week. I was 262 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: listening to a podcast on the way here. I bring 263 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: up great co Sell a lot and you know, he's 264 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: been on with us at the Combine and he's kind 265 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: of one of the best founding tape guys in my 266 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: opinion out there. He thought it was Alan's best game 267 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: as a pro. You know, just the is timing, ball placement, 268 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: command of the offense. You know, it wasn't Sports center 269 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: plays left and right, but just pure quarterbacking and executing 270 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: the plays. He was really blown away with how well 271 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: Allen played this week. Yeah, moving the football and yeah, 272 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: and not putting it in harm's way. Yeah yeah. I 273 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: mean it's if you were doing something that's not so bad. Yeah. 274 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: Um so we'll see with that. But we're gonna take 275 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: a break. When we come back, we're gonna be joined 276 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: by a special guest. That would be Jim Wexel. He's 277 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: written a book on Troy Paulamalu that it just came out. Um, 278 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: so we'll talk to Jim when we get back. Right 279 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: after this your Tunes about Drive on Home of the 280 00:14:47,440 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. We are back, um 281 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: Dale Allen here with Matt Williamson and uh, we're pleased 282 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: to be joined now here on the Drive by Jim Wexhell, 283 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: the author of the new book on Troy Paula Malu 284 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: simply titled Paula Malu and Jim, good to have you 285 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: on the show. I know you've been working on this 286 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: book for well in your mind, what about ten years? 287 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: If we could only just do what's in our mind, 288 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: that do all the work. But uh yeah, you know, 289 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't like I was thinking about it all the time. 290 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: If you were hanging around a lot, when I would. 291 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: I remember one time interviewing we all were interviewing Pete 292 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: Carroll in two thousand eleven, and it was a Seahawks 293 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: game coming up. Of course, everybody's talking about Troy to him, 294 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, having Troy's first time he played against Troy 295 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: and how did this go in college? And blah blah blah. 296 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: And so I started getting a little deeper and I 297 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: could see you guys, you're rolling your eyeballs. Oh here 298 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: we go. Here goes this guy with pull them allow again. 299 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: He's got to turn every interview into this. And then 300 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: when I started asking him about Kennedy, pull them Allah, 301 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: that's when everybody has picked up the tape recorders. But 302 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: that's how we gotta do things, especially even now. I 303 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: mean this, this was not an easy time. Didn't necessarily 304 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: get a book done. Well, No, it kind of was, 305 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: was it? You know, well, I guess yeah, you had 306 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: less things to do in terms of covering the team. Yes, that, 307 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: and everybody was home, you know, guys like Joey Porter, 308 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: Ryan Clark. All right, I'll give him an hour. I 309 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: mean you know, I remember Porter, it's coming up on 310 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: an hour. He goes, all, this is going in the book, 311 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. No Color had the same 312 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: reaction a book hum because he thought he was giving 313 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: me a lengthy interview about Troy. You know, we're reaching 314 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: twenty minutes and he's just like, uh, who are you 315 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: writing this for? I said, this is a book, And 316 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: you could just feel the eyes rolling back and there, 317 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: Oh no, OK, how much longer let's go. Uh. But 318 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: you know, I I tried to get it printed in 319 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: my spot in Virginia, uh, in northern Virginia near the 320 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: Maryland border West Virginia border. So it's not a bad trip. 321 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: And it's kind of a little publishing haven down there, 322 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of publishing houses and the people, you know, 323 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: they had blown up since my last book. And they 324 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: also said, hey, you know, they had no room for me, 325 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: and they were trying to tell me where to go 326 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: China or whatever. They said, Hey, you're not the only 327 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: guy that's writing a book during this quarantine here, so 328 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: the publishing people are all busy. So it kind of 329 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: kind of there are a lot of books coming up 330 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: about now because of that. That makes sense, Jim, good 331 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: to talk you man. And I don't know Troy nearly 332 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: as well as you guys do. I've never spoke to 333 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: them on a personal level, but his reputation is somebody 334 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: that is very private, very reserved. You know, it doesn't 335 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: like a lot of fanfare. Did he give you any 336 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: pushed back that he didn't want the publicity for a book? 337 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: Pushed back, Yeah, he didn't want to do it. He didn't. 338 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 1: And you know, it's almost it's fitting. It fits the character, 339 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 1: it fits the guy everybody was telling me stories about. 340 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: It fit perfectly that he didn't want to be a 341 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: part of this. I mean, he he would tell his 342 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, his brother in law's sure call him. He's 343 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: a good guy. You know, he would allow he told 344 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: usc send them pictures. It's all right. So everything's okay 345 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: on that front. But he just sitting down and talking 346 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: about his life. I mean, he may have set a 347 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: record talking to Dale for the longest Troy Polamalo interview. 348 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, we got it done. I I don't know. 349 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: I look at all these stories. You know Ryan Clark. 350 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: Ryan Clark took some jabs at him too. It's what 351 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: brothers can. Yeah, he can do that, you know, because 352 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: he's he's one of his best friends. Yeah, at USC 353 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: had a couple of those brothers too. I don't know 354 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: about jabs, but you know they weren't as fearful of 355 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: the Troy polamal who getting upset as those who aren't 356 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: as close to him. And they they told the genius 357 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: behind what some of the plays Troy did. And Troy 358 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: would never explain his genius to me ever. Did you 359 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: have a favorite story that came out of all this, Jim, 360 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: you mean it's in the book. It's in the book. Yeah, 361 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: we're something that didn't make it into the book. I 362 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want you to sell the 363 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: book without, you know, give it all away. But well, 364 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this one. I've told a bunch of 365 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: people about how he's a descendant of Kings and and 366 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: God and how Shawn knews that don't don't mention this 367 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: to Troy. He does not like this topic. Um. But 368 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: the other one is, I haven't told anybody. It kind 369 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: of comes up and surprises you in the book. But 370 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, guys, James Harrison's Hunter Yard interception return. 371 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: You know, there are stories of James and and the 372 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: struggle and you know, the dying of the light and 373 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: man struggle as darkness descended, and and everybody did everything 374 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: they could. Dick Lebo even practiced this during the week. 375 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: Everybody was rallying except one player gave no effort. And 376 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: then Ryan Clark tells us who that player was. I mean, 377 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: he did nothing. I guess he'd made a lot of 378 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: other place in his career. He didn't have to do anything. 379 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: But the Troy was the only guy that did nothing 380 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: that I've never even looked at him. I'm your eyes 381 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: or elsewhere obviously on that play. That's crazy. Um, I 382 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: haven't read the book. I'm excited to. There's a there's 383 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: a theory out there where you hear players, you know, 384 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: people talking that dick Lebo changed his defense for Troy 385 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: or maybe that's not even the right way of saying it, 386 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: but like Troy had carb Blanche just kind of do 387 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: whatever he wanted and Ryan Clark would make up for it, 388 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: and ten of them had a I'm in someone didn't. 389 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: Is there truth to that? Or is here and there? Oh? Um, 390 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: you know it's it's addressed well in the book, and 391 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: it's not. It does. It doesn't beat you over the 392 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: head because it comes up at different points, even in 393 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: the super Bowl two thousand ten, when somebody asked Troy, 394 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: you know what about all your freelancing and he just 395 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: bristled at the at the Super Bowl podium, and Dick 396 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: Lobau bristles over that, and they both explained that it 397 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: was not free lancing. And you get early pictures from 398 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: Mike Logan in two thousand four when he said, no, 399 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: I thought Troy going into the paper room film room. 400 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: At that time, it wasn't our time, and uh he 401 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: we had already watched film and here he goes and 402 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: he and I peek in. I just see him go in, 403 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: and the next week I'm peeking in. And the next 404 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: week I said, I gotta go in and see what 405 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: this guy's doing. Now then the next week, I'm taking 406 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 1: notes as to how he's doing because he would look 407 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: at the offensive line film, the sideline film, the TV him, 408 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: the every different angle you could watch. This is a 409 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: guy that always told us he hated watching football. Now 410 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: we know why, just watching way too much film. He 411 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: was never gonna go home and watch Monday night football. 412 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: But uh, Logan explained how his instincts, along with his 413 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: uh immense film study and his speed which allowed him 414 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: to get from point A to point B before the 415 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: quarterback could turn his head and see um, that all 416 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: combined to make it seem like he was freelancing and 417 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: coming from nowhere and doing weird things. And you also 418 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: there were there were points in the book where ray 419 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: Horton was a really good interview. Ray Horton was a 420 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 1: really underrated coach, I think, and a good dB coach 421 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: and and very good, you know, very good communicator to me, 422 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: especially about how they look for hundred percenters and uh, 423 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: you know, and and Troy in this particular game found 424 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: a huncenter and even I would call de Troy, what 425 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,239 Speaker 1: are you doing? You told me this is and it 426 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: was and raised like I don't even know why I 427 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: tell this guy, you know, get angry about whatever this 428 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: guy does because he comes back with good logic and 429 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: Bill Cowards blowing up at him for certain things. So 430 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: all of that is illustrated throughout the book at various points, 431 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: without a whole chapter on Troy is not a freelancer. 432 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: Peter King. Yeah, that was the when I was sitting 433 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame meeting last year and I 434 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: had given my my thing on Troy, and I'd given 435 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: all this, the stats and everything, and the first question 436 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: I get how much of what he did was freelancing 437 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: and how much of that was within the confines of 438 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: the defense. I'm like, does it matter? I mean, honestly 439 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But I'm like, well, I mean, and I 440 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: had talked, I talked later. I asked Cower that actually afterwards, 441 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: when when we were at the UH at the Hall 442 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: of Fame announcements and you get the pool side but 443 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, the coward, and I talked to Troy about 444 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: it the well but um, he said, you know, some 445 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 1: of it was, but a lot of it was, you know, 446 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 1: things that you know he saw that from all that 447 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: film study. And and as Troy told me said, look, 448 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: you know I could I could go up to Joey 449 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: Porter and say, hey, you get the flat here, I'm 450 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna rush, or vice versa. You know, I've 451 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: got the flat in ear rushing whatever the They could 452 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: change things on the on the fly and their defense 453 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: because everybody understood everything. I think there's a misconception too 454 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: that he's a freelancer means he doesn't know what he's doing. 455 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: He's just running around with his hair on fire. That's why. 456 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, but uh, let me just touch on Joey Porter. 457 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: You brought up Joey Porter saying, you know, there's a 458 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: Joey telling the story about how Troy came up to Joey. 459 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: You know, on this particular play, you drop and take 460 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: my guy in coverage and I'll take your blitz. We 461 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: do it this way. You know, you can only imagine 462 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: he dropped some words that I can't use here. You'll 463 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: get back your coverage. You know what. They came up blitz. 464 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: But then Troy explained and they did it in practice. 465 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: They you know, one of his alleged freelance moves they 466 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: went through in practice, and Troy always made sure someone 467 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: was covering for him and that's why he would approach 468 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: a Joey Porter during the middle of the week. And uh, 469 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: and the other one. The other one. I wanted to 470 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: tell you guys, A hundred percenter it killed them against 471 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: Denver was the overtime touchdown in two thousand eleven. Troy 472 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: got beat on a hundred percenter and Fox, John Fox 473 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: knew that Troy would go for the hundred percenter. They 474 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: had never varied off particular crack and that's why Troy 475 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: came down. Any other guys made mistakes too on that 476 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: it was eight yard touchdown passed Damarius Thomas Um. But 477 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: but Fox called that play with Troy in mind. And sometimes, yeah, 478 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: I can bite you in the butt. And then there 479 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: are examples of Troy not not as much freelancing, but 480 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: doing Troy things and with explanations that blew up that 481 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: didn't work. Yeah, Caller mentioned that too. He said, he said, look, 482 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: he did these things and most of the time he 483 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: was right, but there were times when he was wrong 484 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: and you get mad about it. But he said, but 485 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: he made so many good plays that you know, you 486 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: just kind of coaches called a perfect game every time, 487 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: either right exactly? Will you cover a lot of his 488 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: his childhood in the book as well, and talking to 489 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 1: the family members and those kind of things that really 490 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: kind of lets people know who this who this guy was, 491 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: why he became the person that he is was now 492 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: and will always be. Some of some of those guys, 493 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 1: his cousin Brandon, you know, such insight. It was just 494 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: beautiful and and they weren't putting words in his mouth either. 495 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: There were certain topics that well, I'm not going to 496 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: speak for Troy on that, but yeah, I thought some 497 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: of those guys in the childhood section who really nailed 498 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: and the entire poem a family, they they nailed. And 499 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: that's part of the reason I just named a poem 500 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: because so much went into it was an entire family, 501 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: village type of thing that grew him. And and I 502 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: remember asking al what what what o Ao, the guy 503 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: who played knows that Penn State. Yeah, I asked him, whoop, 504 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: I think we just lost Jim there. Can we get 505 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: him back on the phone. Uh? Yeah, I was on 506 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 1: the edge of my seat. But it is. It is 507 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: a good book. It's a good read. And uh, you 508 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: know I did I did some stuff on Troy earlier 509 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: this year, A big, big series on that and it's 510 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: not nearly as intensive as as this piece that Jim 511 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: did on this. Of course you can get that at 512 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: Jim Wexel dot com. I think you can also get 513 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: this on the Steelers website. Uh, you know, this is 514 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: one that just in time for Christmas that you know 515 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: you're you're definitely gonna want to get if you're a 516 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: Steelers fan and such an interesting player on and off 517 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: the field. There was so much I mean, you know, 518 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: even we got Jim back down, I was I was 519 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: just saying, Jim, even when he was playing, UM fans 520 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,959 Speaker 1: always wanted to know more about Troy and that was 521 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: not that was not an easy nut to crack. Um Troy. 522 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: There were so many instances where I found in my 523 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 1: notes after the Horde left, Troy turned to me and 524 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: said this about concussions, some of the topics he wouldn't 525 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: talk about he would or New England cheating that came 526 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 1: up a couple of years later, you know, Troy said, 527 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: you know, I thought after that game, I thought Bill 528 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: Belichick was the greatest coach I had ever witnessed in 529 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: my life. Then I find out this, but yeah he was. 530 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: And there was a thirst from us and I think 531 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: a lot of this. I don't know that. You know 532 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people stopped going over there because you 533 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: get thirteen answers would be god willing and and a 534 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: lot of times you're not hastien enough to wait him 535 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: out because he will he will talk about it. I 536 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: think as long as he feels he's not going to 537 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: be a headline tomorrow. That was always right. That was 538 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: always the thing. Even the faces he might not have 539 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: known in the mob crowd, he you know, he just 540 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: but I think if you waited him out or got 541 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: him one on one and the the other thing you 542 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: always had the ace in your pocket was he could 543 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: not lie. Well, there's that. There's that. Yeah, what came out. 544 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: I know when I when I talked to him, of 545 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: course after right after he got inducted that night, um 546 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: after the vote, and we talked for a good long time. 547 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: And then the Hall of Fame asked me to write 548 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: a piece for the yearbook that they do, and I 549 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: went through the Steelers pr and they said, okay, Troy 550 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: said he'll do this, you know, and and they gave 551 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: me the the assignments I don't know, two months before 552 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: it was due, and I kept texting Burt lout in 553 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: the Steel there's a director of pr And I kept saying, hey, uh, 554 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: we're good for We're good for this, right, this is 555 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: gonna happen, right, And he kept putting it off and 556 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: putting it off. But well, yeah, Troy said he's gonna 557 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: do it, but he can't do it this week. You 558 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: can't do it that. That gets down to like two 559 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: days before this this story is due, and I said, Bird, 560 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: I gotta get him now, like this has gonna happen. 561 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: And it's and and he got him on the phone 562 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: and he just you know, went for over an hour, 563 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: uh you know, just talking and we got done and 564 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: Bert called me back. He says, was that good. I'm like, well, 565 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: you heard it. You were listening. He goes, yeah, there 566 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: was a lot of stuff there that I had never 567 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: heard before. Well that's all in your book. Um, All 568 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,239 Speaker 1: this stuff is in your book, and not just in 569 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: his words, but from the people who were around him. 570 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: And that's the that's the cool thing about this. Um. 571 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: There's not anybody who's been around the guy who hasn't 572 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: been touched in a positive way in some fashion or 573 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: form um. And I think that comes out in the 574 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: book did we lose him again? We lost him again? 575 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: We us him again? But again. You can get that 576 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: on the Steeler's official website. You can you can get 577 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: that the book. It's called Paula malu by Jim Wexel. 578 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: It's a hardcover. Uh, lots of photos in there of 579 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: Troy Paula malu Um really good stuff. And of course 580 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: you can also get that at Jim Wexel dot com. 581 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: That's j I M W E x E double L 582 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: dot com. Get that now for your for your reading pleasure. 583 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: Lots of good stuff in there about the Steelers now 584 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame safety. I use him as an example 585 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: a lot. Like I often say, if my mom or 586 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: sister that doesn't know much about sports can go to 587 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: a game or turn on the TV, and who's the 588 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: guy in the hair with her three who's that dude 589 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: on the ice with sixty six on his back? Like 590 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: he's way better than everybody else, And like even like 591 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: Ryan Shazier had a little bit of that too him, 592 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: it's like moving at a different speed. And I always 593 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: use him as the example. And you know, no matter, 594 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: there's a handful of them the league at all times, 595 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, But it's rare that you him, you know, 596 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: and he certainly was one of them. Yeah, it's definitely 597 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: one to check out. There are also some really good 598 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: photos in there from his childhood, that kind of stuff 599 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: that you know, Troy playing baseball and Troy playing basketball. 600 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: He was a multi UH star athlete in in Oregon 601 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: after he after he made to move in with it 602 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: with his aunt and uncle, leaving the streets of Los 603 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: Angeles to go live in the really in the middle 604 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: of nowhere, Oregon. And you know, I talked to him 605 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: about that when when he did that transition absolutely was 606 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: um but I think it, you know, it helped make 607 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: him transition right and go back to you know, go 608 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: back to that, to that atmosphere from a small school. 609 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: When I say small school, we're talking like little tiny 610 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: school where obviously he was the you know, he was 611 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: the athlete, but recruiting services didn't exist to the same 612 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: degree back then, and USC only has so many, so 613 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: much manpower, like you can easily overlook those times. He 614 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: was originally going to go to Colorado. That's where his 615 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: his uncle, Kennedy uh was an assist suton coach at 616 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: Colorado at the time, and he left I believe they 617 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: changed coaches. Their coach left and and uh so Kennedy 618 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: was out of a job, and you know, he was 619 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: getting hired by by USC. Said hey, we gotta checked 620 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: this guy to check out my nephew. And they brought 621 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: him in and I talked to Paul Hackett about it. 622 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: Paul Hackett was the coach at the time at USC, 623 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: and and uh you know, he said, we weren't. We 624 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: weren't sold on him. A lot of the guys on 625 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: the staff weren't sold on them, but Kennedy was was 626 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: adamant that we bring him in, and thank goodness for 627 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: them that they did. They worked out okay, even though 628 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: Paul Hackett didn't wasn't around to see all that come 629 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: to fruition because he got fired. But Pete Carroll won 630 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: a national championship and Troy Paul was a big part 631 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: of that. Worked out pretty well and be the first 632 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: round pick. Obviously end up being a first round pick 633 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: and Pro Football Hall of Famer. But again, you can 634 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: check that book out as quick. You mentioned Kennedy, and 635 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring his name up to because 636 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: Jim did as well. He was the running back coach 637 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: with the Browns when I was there, so I have 638 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: to know him a little bit. And it took me 639 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: like six months until I realized he was Troy's uncle. Yeah, 640 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: and he goes it's a big family. Okay, he goes 641 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: by Kennedy, pull up l A and right shortened his name. 642 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: But he's not changed it. I think to Paula Malo back, 643 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: I know he's still in the league. I mean I 644 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: haven't kept the Kings. Yeah, he's the running backs coach 645 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 1: for the Vikings. So he's doing okay, yeah, not bad, 646 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: but yeah. Check that book out by Jim Wexel. It's 647 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: called Paula Malo You can get that on the Steelers 648 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: website or as I said, at Jim Wexel dot com. 649 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Ali. We're gonna take 650 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: a break. We'll be back talk more Steelers and bills 651 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: right after this your tunes about drive on Home of 652 00:34:32,680 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm 653 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: Dale l Care with Matt Williamson and Matt of course 654 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: uh uh. If you missed the first part of the show. 655 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: The Steelers have Vince Williams going on the COVID list. 656 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: They should get Marquis Pouncy back tomorrow. He's eligible to 657 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: come off this list tomorrow. That's a big get back. Um, 658 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: there's no doubt, ye. And it's you know, against the 659 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: team like the Ravens, especially even though they didn't have 660 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: their guys, they're gonna, they're gonna. They're still guys who 661 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,959 Speaker 1: have been with them, and they're gonna put nine guys 662 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. You've got to figure out 663 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: who's coming. And then you play a team like Washington, Yeah, 664 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: with poor first round draft picks on the front that 665 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: you know they're gonna right, you can't just help the 666 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: center in time and time again. And I'm not ripping 667 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: on Hoss. I mean it's good for him. He put 668 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: some tape out there. But I felt it was not 669 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 1: a typical situation where usually you lose your starter and 670 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: okay and then you got a backup. I felt like 671 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: you were missing that backup and you went to the 672 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: third stringer right away, the type of deal, you know 673 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, Um, so you know we'll see 674 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, people if I'm the Steelers and this were 675 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: way too early for this, but my priorities in next 676 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,439 Speaker 1: year's draft and you know, I think in the first 677 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: four rounds what you have to get is running back. 678 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: Not a good running back draft, but it doesn't matter. 679 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: You can find guys running back an offensive tackle because 680 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: the depth there project type. I mean you know that 681 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: can yeah, yeah, the depth the depth there is not 682 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, if if you do happen to lose and 683 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: they've got guys who are gonna be free agents, you 684 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: should probably cover your bases there. I'm guessing their tackles 685 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: next year, or Filer who could also be guard obviously 686 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: Chookes and Banner perhaps, but two of those guys are 687 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: to the two of those guys are free agents, so 688 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: Filing my if you're starting guard correct, Yeah, I mean 689 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: there's where he may be somewhere else playing you know, 690 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: kind of like this year's version of Choos, but a 691 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: center with some with some pedigree. Because Marquise pounces on 692 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: the wrong side of thirty. You gotta start, you know, 693 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: developing that next guy. I know that might not be 694 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: popular because he's so well beloved in the locker room 695 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 1: and he's had a great career, and but you could 696 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: get a guy who can play guard, you know, that's 697 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: the thing. He could be your swing guy for a 698 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: year or two and then you know, but they don't 699 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: need a guard, you know, and a pure you're right though, 700 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: I mean i'd much other have someone that can because 701 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: we've seen it this year. We said, well, doctors are 702 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: gonna play this year. It's ever a bad idea. I 703 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 1: haven't looked at the contract. I just know where he 704 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: is in his career. He could be a guy a 705 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: year from now. I'm talking about pounds that he's not 706 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: worth the caps place anymore, you know, I mean like 707 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: he could I mean, you know, he could retire at 708 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: any time that that happens to that injuries, you know, 709 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens weren't expecting Marshall Yahn to retire 710 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: and he did. That happens, and I think those three spots. Yeah, 711 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: it's not because he probably won't play for right, right, 712 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: but it's something that you know, you don't need it 713 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: unless you need it, you know. It's like drafting a 714 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. I wouldn't you know. And that's the other thing, 715 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: like could it be the year to do that? Maybe? Maybe? Yeah? 716 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: I mean Ben might say I got one more or 717 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 1: who knows, yeah, but we you know, that's that's a 718 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: long way off. We don't. It's something to think about. Sure, 719 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: go ahead, Um, you've seen You've been doing this long time. 720 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: You and Jim have been around the team a lot, 721 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: and all of our listeners have watched as well too. 722 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: There's been some awesome defensive players in your time, being 723 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,479 Speaker 1: close to the ridiculously good year. And who else would 724 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: you put on the Troy tear. I'm not saying this 725 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: guy is better than Troy or Troy is better than him. 726 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: I don't want rankings, but the elite tire not oh 727 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: he's a pro bowler. No, I mean the elite, the 728 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 1: elite guy like, this guy's a Hall of Fame players 729 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: without my question, you know, without a doubt. Rob Woinson, Uh, 730 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: he was. He was the strong, obvious one. He was 731 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 1: the straw that stirred to drink when when I first 732 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: started covering a team, I think, what has reached that level? Yeah? 733 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean you look at the things that he's done 734 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: in this first four years. Um, you know he he 735 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: has more sacks than any other outside linebacker in his 736 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: four years in the league. Um, I mean MVP consideration 737 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: defensive MVP. He was. Yeah, he was third in the 738 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: voting last year. I think he might be the leader. 739 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: Right now. I think he's top three. Yeah, we'll see 740 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald tonight. We'll see what he does in this game. 741 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 1: But if he's outside the top two, I'll be shocked 742 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: because things can change. But right, he's in the short 743 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: list for two years in a row. Right, Yeah, that's rare. Um. 744 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: You know, Harrison won an MVP award. He he was 745 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: really good for short stretch. Um. You know, he was dominant. Um. 746 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: But is he definitely the best edge guy you've seen before? What? 747 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: I think that's even the for debate. That's that's that's debatable. Yeah, 748 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: because there are so many good ones. I mean, you 749 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: put you know, Greg Lloyd and Kevin Green were you know, phenomenal. 750 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: But again, like Lloyd, that was a short period of 751 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: time or like like like Harrison, Joey Porter was really 752 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: good and the thing was kind of underrated about Joey Porter. Um, 753 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: his dropping. He dropped into coverage quite a bit. He 754 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: had over twenty career interceptions. That always sticks with me. 755 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: A couple of camps ago, Jason Gilden sat down with 756 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: us and they played the same defense. He was just 757 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: a predecessor and I remember asking him like, what we'recentages 758 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: of snaps? Did you actually drop? I think he said, 759 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 1: like forty or fifty? Like it was. I mean, Porter 760 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: was actually good at Porter was a college wide receiver 761 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: when he went to when he went to Colorado, Colorado State, Colorado. 762 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: But those edge guys dropped a lot more in the 763 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: Colorado system than they do now or there or are 764 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: they having the last couple of years? Um? So he 765 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: still he kept the good hands and could make those 766 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: plays in coverage. One of the most underrated guys um 767 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: in my opinion, um, from all those great Steelers defenses 768 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: over the years is a guy who just got named 769 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: into their their Hall of Honor, Ring of honor, Um 770 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: Hall of Honor. It was James Ferrier. You always bring 771 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: him up in your He was the guy that held 772 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: that entire defense together. He was the guy that he 773 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: was their pouncy. You know when when James Ferrier told 774 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: that group something, they did it. Then there was no 775 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: questioning whether we're gonna do this. No James said we're 776 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: gonna do this or this is what we're gonna do. 777 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: You know how to say these things. But he was there, 778 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: Joe Green, he really was. He's kind of the like 779 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: like Cam Hayward is that guy now on this team? 780 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: And Cam would certainly get some consideration there, um. But 781 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: Ferrier to me, you know when when they got James 782 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: Ferrier in two thousand two kind of brought They had 783 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: had a good defense in in in two thousand one. Uh, 784 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: he kind of brought it all together. People forget that 785 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: he was what six pick in the draft. He was 786 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: a really talented player, just a locker room guy, effort guy. 787 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: He led his one year, one of the years in 788 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: in in New York. He led the NFL with like 789 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: a d eighty tackles and Parcels couldn't figure out what 790 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: to do with him. Is he an outside linebackers inside? Yeah? 791 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: I think of that move a lot like the baddest move, 792 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: Like team number one didn't quite know what to do 793 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: with a really really and that happens to players. Yeah, 794 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 1: that happens to players through like, oh, you don't quite 795 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: know what to do with Jeff Harlings was kind of 796 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 1: the same one. You know, you get you get these 797 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 1: guys who were you know, they're not the splash names. 798 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 1: Oh heay, look the Steelers got this guy. They got 799 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: Reggie White. No, that doesn't happen. But you know, I'm 800 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 1: sure Kevin in the front office loved them coming out 801 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: of school, those guys and you're watching the pro scouts 802 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: were like, they're not using this guy, right, Yeah, that's 803 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 1: a good one. But he was. He was a really 804 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: good foot. I mean, they've had so many good ones. 805 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 1: It's just so many good ones. Um of Cam Heyward, 806 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Smith, you know, Casey Hansen, and they're not probably 807 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: the elite, elite elite you know, to me, to me, 808 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: Paula Mallo, Watt and Woodson stand above. Yeah makes sense. Yeah, 809 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean I guess Harrison would be he'd be the 810 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: next year down. But yeah, but you know he's there 811 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: with with Greg Lloyd and Kevin Green and Joey Porter 812 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: and Levon Kirkland was freakish. Cardinal Lake was a really 813 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: good player. Um. You know if Cardinal Lake, I joked 814 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: with him a couple of times, like, you know, if 815 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 1: you could have caught the football, you'd be a Hall 816 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: of Famer. You bring him up too, though, I mean 817 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,240 Speaker 1: he could be. Who's the perfect example, Alex the college 818 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 1: linebacker that played cornerback in the league, the Baron Yeah 819 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: type guy that's becoming popular now that's you know, really 820 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: he'd be he'd be James from the Chargers. James, he's 821 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: that size he was. Yeah, he looked different than most 822 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: safeties at that time. If you think about it, you 823 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 1: know when he first started, Um, he's playing next to 824 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: Darren Perry who was the free and you know Perry's 825 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: like five ten, five eleven pounds and here's Card in 826 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: the lake beside him. You know, it's like, I'll think 827 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah, those that stand out amound amongst people 828 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: that are you know, their position, that just don't look 829 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: like everybody else. Yeah, Troy was certainly that. Troy was. 830 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: Troy didn't look the part. That was part of the 831 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: thing when when when the USC coaches looked at him like, well, 832 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a five ft ten safety. Like 833 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: I actually was thinking that because of my recruiting background. 834 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 1: You think there's prejudices and draft and stuff. Recruiting is worse, 835 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,359 Speaker 1: trust me, Like I mean, because there's so many kids 836 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: to pick from and your USC, right, it's not like 837 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: the third round and sixty people off the board. I 838 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: got ten pick to pick for them that are all 839 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,760 Speaker 1: four or five. We're in the middle of Los Angeles. 840 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,439 Speaker 1: Here I can go out and walk the street and find, 841 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, ten guys that looked the part. Can they 842 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: play if I want that one? And the other part 843 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 1: of it was if you looked at his tape because 844 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: he was playing at such a small school. And that's 845 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 1: another thing that happens in the recruiting process. You're like, Okay, 846 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: this guy is really talented, but you know, is he 847 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: playing against a bunch of slubs who will you know 848 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: they're gonna be uh, you know, working on their their 849 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, master's degrees in four years if they go 850 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: to college, you're not going to do it for football, 851 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: you probably and I doubt many of our people remember 852 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,439 Speaker 1: the name Mike Hart. But he was a running back 853 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: in a really small remember New York, and he went 854 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 1: to Michigan. And I remember watching his tape and it 855 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: was as good as I had seen from a running back. 856 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: And his production was like five six touchdowns a game, 857 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: and well, that's what Paula was. I was thinking that 858 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 1: when he wanted to be a running back, not super fast. 859 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: He's way better than everyone on the field. I made 860 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: a highlight tape of him and it just never ended. 861 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: It's like here's another. And I remember running back coach 862 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: and offensive people were like, but look, who's cha, said 863 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: a Matt. I'm like, I can't help that. You know. 864 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,839 Speaker 1: It's like, and I mentioned this one quite a bit. 865 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 1: If you turn on if you look at Stefan too, 866 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 1: it's high school tape playing class eight balling in in 867 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: you know, urban your I mean the rural Georgia. That's 868 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 1: what it looks like. Yeah, I mean, he's so much 869 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: bigger than everybody else, and it's just as fast and 870 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 1: straight and in a way. I mean, sometimes it's easy 871 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: to evaluate, Like I use the DK Metcalf reference now, 872 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: Like if all those great receivers from last year's draft 873 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: we're all in gym class with my fourteen year old, 874 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: they all pick DK, you know, and he fell to 875 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: the end of the second round. You know, sometimes don't 876 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: overthink it. Just take the guy that's different than everybody else. 877 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: But when you compare him to the dude that's at 878 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,919 Speaker 1: Glade Central who's playing, everyone on that field is gonna 879 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 1: play college. Absolutely. I mean I remember I talked with 880 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: Sean Spence about that one time and he's like, he's like, yeah, 881 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: I had, uh a fifth tier and fifteen or sixteen, 882 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 1: and the guys in his high school class played Division 883 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: one football. Yeah, I don't doubt it. At Northwestern High 884 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,959 Speaker 1: in Miami. Those are football factories. Those are football factor 885 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, those are easy to you know, you take 886 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 1: the fifteen guy on their roster and he's making it. 887 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna make your your your team. Yeah, 888 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 1: A pitch story. Before I was there, Tory Cox was 889 00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,360 Speaker 1: a good corner for us. You end up playing for 890 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: the Bucks. It was a you know, a really good player. 891 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,720 Speaker 1: And the Panthers before I got there, had one extra scholarship. 892 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: They didn't know who they're gonna take. They went down 893 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,360 Speaker 1: to visit Tory and there's this wide receiver Antonio Bryant 894 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: that they end up taking, who was recruited by nobody 895 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: and had a hard time getting on the field for 896 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,919 Speaker 1: his high school team because they were so low. Yeah, 897 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: and obviously a b before CS. Aby went on to 898 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: have a tremendous pit career and was star but couldn't 899 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: Maybe his most level of competition was getting on his 900 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: high school field. You know, when you think about that 901 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 1: happens and he wasn't quite as developed and need grow 902 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: up in those type of things. And I remember even 903 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,760 Speaker 1: asking those two about tell me more about Miami football, 904 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: and they were like, it's we're afraid. I don't if 905 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: I should even repeat this, like if we didn't win 906 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: and maybe cover whatever the spread is. But behind the scenes, 907 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 1: we were worried walk into our car, you know, like 908 00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: we might get knife. Somebody lost money. Stakes were high. 909 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: The stakes were high, much more so than just a 910 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: regular game. But he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. 911 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. 912 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. We'll be back with the 913 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 1: fantash of football focus right after. This is the Drive 914 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on Home of the 915 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale 916 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,720 Speaker 1: Lolly here with Matt Williamson and Matt. There's a game tonight. 917 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 1: We get the Patriots and the Rams. And a little 918 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: interesting nugget from that game is the Rams have elevated 919 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: Austin McGinnis to their fifty three man roster. And you 920 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,919 Speaker 1: might say, as I can tell by the puzzled look 921 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 1: on your face, who is Austin McGinnis. He's a kicker, Yeah, Yeah, 922 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: I saw McKay was questionable and short week and all 923 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: that stuff. Right, So it looks like McGinnis, if they've 924 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: elevated him from the practice squad, he's probably gonna kick 925 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 1: tonight for the Rams, as we saw last week with 926 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 1: but with the Steelers when they had a similar situation. Um, 927 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: that can be I have a very big effect on 928 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: a game. It does. I started to have a big 929 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 1: effect on a game and a couple notes, I guess 930 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 1: more I think about it, that's news to me. For 931 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: fantasy reasons. When I see something like that, I'm always like, 932 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: I better not start the guy usually do who's out? 933 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: You know, Like I just forget that he's in my 934 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 1: lineup and he's my kicker, and I kind of ignore 935 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: it and don't be a great owner. But Tim, we 936 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: were about off the air. The Patriots have if they 937 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: have any advantage to nights on special teams, and it 938 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 1: won't be like the last Los Angeles teams destroyed but 939 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: the Rams and struggled on teams, and maybe they don't 940 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: go for it on you know, or they do go 941 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: for it on fourth and four when right, yeah, you 942 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 1: get to the third, you get to the thirty five 943 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 1: and you would have sent Gay out there. Well, now 944 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 1: you're like, well, we're gonna go for it. This guy 945 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 1: had uh McGinnis kicked in the XFL and he made 946 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 1: all ten of his field goals for the Dallas Renegades 947 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: in the XFL, So at least he's done it before. 948 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's a little different. It's 949 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: kind of like the Thomas situation. Do you trust him? 950 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 1: Do I trust him to trot out there? You didn't 951 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,239 Speaker 1: get to see him do it in the preseason. You 952 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,359 Speaker 1: didn't get you know, that's a you know, now their weather, 953 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: it will be a little different than what you know 954 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: what Matthew Right was kicking. And I think that played 955 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,399 Speaker 1: the factors while I was watching, you know, I spent 956 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: the entire hour before the game started on Sunday or 957 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: on Monday night, um watching Matthew Right kick, you know, 958 00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: and you know he was missing some of those ones 959 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 1: from longer distances. He was okay, you know, he was 960 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 1: fine inside of forty five yards, but anything beyond that was, 961 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,240 Speaker 1: you know, gonna be iffy. And it's just a track record. 962 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,960 Speaker 1: And that was without anybody rushing it, you know, yeah, right, 963 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: And it's not like I've trusted this guy for years. 964 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the whole trust factor with kickers is just 965 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 1: so massive and I can't stress this enough. And I 966 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: always remember the two thousand eighteen season with bos Right. 967 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,359 Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than not having trust in your kicker. 968 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 1: There's twenty good ones in the league, and if you're 969 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 1: one of those teams searching for somebody else, you're probably 970 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 1: just rotating them in and out hoping to find one. 971 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: And it's a terrible place to be outside of that. Uh, 972 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:31,839 Speaker 1: this doesn't look like it's going to be a high 973 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: scoring game. Um, the Patriots defense seems to have kind 974 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: of figured a few things. Um, this won't this, but 975 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: this also won't be the Super Bowl from two years 976 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: ago where it was ten three. I've heard that a 977 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,480 Speaker 1: million times to like, yeah, this is a super Bowl 978 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: rematch of recent but times have changed dramatic absolutely. I mean, 979 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,359 Speaker 1: I know the Rams offense looks sort of the same 980 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 1: and Belichick shut it down. Well, they're not. They used 981 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: to live on Todd Gurley and he would put a 982 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: six man front with one linebacker behind and kill their zones. 983 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 1: That's not who they are. No, they've adapted. I mean, 984 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: they got past that they throw like and the Patriots 985 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: most certainly aren't who they were offense close, I mean 986 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,960 Speaker 1: Gronk and Brady obviously. And one thing I always look 987 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 1: at with a couple of things I always look at 988 00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,319 Speaker 1: with the Rams games are whose Rams are gonna line 989 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: up on nobody or it doesn't matter. How will they 990 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: handle Donald? And I bet they do better than most 991 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: teams because they're a well coached, good line. But he's 992 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 1: still always going to cause problems. He's a constant And 993 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 1: can the team rush the passer against the Rams and 994 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: they can't? Probably not. Golf if he has time is 995 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 1: really good, and if he doesn't, he's questionable. Yeah, I 996 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: mean I like the Rams to win this game. That 997 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,120 Speaker 1: gives me some pause. Uh you know the fact that 998 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 1: they're missing a kicker because it only takes one kick 999 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: to kind of yeah, kind of screw things up. But 1000 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: I think it's tough sledding for Camma Company. Yeah, I 1001 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: think it will be. Uh you know, this looks like 1002 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: a seventeen game something along those lines, but probably not 1003 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 1: a fantasy bananza. Yeah. I like Harris, but I don't 1004 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 1: love him tonight. No, not against the Rams. Defense is 1005 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 1: legit very much so yeah, in both phases and well 1006 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: coached you. So Damian Harris needs just to be a 1007 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,240 Speaker 1: close game to be relevant, and he still doesn't score 1008 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: and catch passes. And the other problem is it's a 1009 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 1: short work week, so it's not like you're gonna have 1010 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of way I've got a bunch of rams 1011 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 1: specific stuff here. You're pretty much gonna do what you do. 1012 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 1: Probably probably right? Are you trusting Acres? Yet? I thought 1013 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: he was playing the Cardinals or Jags are not Belichick, 1014 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 1: although I you know, I guess maybe hender maybe they 1015 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 1: you know, he gets to start over Henderson because Henderson 1016 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,279 Speaker 1: was banged up on the short week. Um does he 1017 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: get Does he get fifteen carries in this game? I 1018 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 1: think because Malcolm Brown's blooming out there as well. Like 1019 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 1: they get other guys, they do other guys. That's the problem. 1020 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,720 Speaker 1: I read a stat that I didn't realize this morning 1021 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: about Acres. He he ran like thirty five routes this 1022 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 1: past week. They still don't throw to him ever, but 1023 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: it's the first time he's running a high number of 1024 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,800 Speaker 1: actual route So maybe that's coming in. I mean, I 1025 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: I guess as a flex play, Yeah, he's probably better 1026 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: than Yeah, better than a lot of guys. You can 1027 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: throw into that spot, but it's just a little hard 1028 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 1: to dross. But running backs with so thin that's why 1029 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Acres and Harris. Yeah, moving 1030 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,840 Speaker 1: on to today's injuries. Daniel Jones with the hamstring was 1031 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,080 Speaker 1: limited at Thursday's practice, but they seem to have some 1032 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: They're feeling like he's gonna play. Um, so that would 1033 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: be good. They're playing the Cardinals, not a bad matchup 1034 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 1: at all. That's a game that they can win. Yeah, 1035 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: they will. Yeah. Um. Miles Sanders Um, he's excited to 1036 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: run the read option in plays in Week fourteen with 1037 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts at quarterback. If you're telling the opponent you're 1038 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: gonna run read option, yeah, what's about time? I mean, 1039 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if Peterson's a good coach. I really 1040 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,359 Speaker 1: have some doubts because he came out this week. He's like, well, 1041 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 1: we're going to Hurts and we're gonna feature Miles Sanders more. 1042 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,240 Speaker 1: Why did you do that? Two weeks right, Miles Sanders 1043 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 1: has been healthy. I texted you a couple of weeks ago. 1044 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, why is Miles Sanders? Why are they giving 1045 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,840 Speaker 1: Boston Scott the ball. He's the only one of the 1046 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: offense you should be able to count on, and you didn't, 1047 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 1: you know, like like Boston Scott in that game had 1048 00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,280 Speaker 1: I think I think Sanders had twelve touches and Boston 1049 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,960 Speaker 1: Scott at eleven. That's coaching malpractice in here. Get the 1050 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 1: offense is struggling to no end. Change what you're doing. 1051 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 1: Make your quarterbacks life easier. Why does it take a 1052 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 1: quarterback change to get that done? This is a big one. 1053 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 1: Mike Evans with a hamstring down downgraded, that did not 1054 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 1: practice today. I bet that that helps they be That 1055 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,720 Speaker 1: helps godwin Goblin's fightings on too. Yea Goblin has the finger. 1056 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: He practiced in full today so that you get to 1057 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,239 Speaker 1: get the stitches removed on Tuesday. But if you can 1058 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,439 Speaker 1: only have two Bucks receivers, that's nice, that's very nice, 1059 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,919 Speaker 1: especially against that Vikings defense. There's a lot of points 1060 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 1: in that game. Yeah, I should be up and down 1061 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 1: the field and you can throw on Tamping and you 1062 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,319 Speaker 1: can throw on Tampa Bay's defense. Tampa's the last six 1063 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 1: weeks or so has just been okay. Yeah, they're their 1064 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 1: stature added from earlier in the year. But coming off 1065 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 1: of bye, I have some hope for Tampa. Tyreek Hill, 1066 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: with an illness, returned to practice Thursday. He was out 1067 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: yesterday's LL Besides Adams, He's like the best receiver in 1068 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:11,440 Speaker 1: the league in terms of fantasy. UM, DeAndre Washington were 1069 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 1: talking about that game a little bit too off the air. 1070 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 1: I think Miami is gonna play a lot of man 1071 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 1: coverage and blitz and look out, that's bad for I mean, 1072 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 1: they've got good corners, but they don't have that Nobody 1073 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:25,840 Speaker 1: has that guy right yards in the first quarter. DeAndre 1074 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 1: Washington for the Dolphins was limited but with a hamstring. Um, 1075 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 1: it's all Mills Gaskin all the time. Who'd you say 1076 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,560 Speaker 1: it was? That was Washington? Yeah, I think we've known. 1077 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 1: I mean, none of them are good, so it's hard 1078 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: to get a judge on it. But it seems like 1079 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 1: this Miami regime wants to feature one back whenever. Like 1080 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 1: it's which is strange and Sarah Patriots coaching, you know, 1081 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,839 Speaker 1: every that goes against everything in the in the Belichick like, oh, 1082 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,040 Speaker 1: we can't just have one guy because then it's not 1083 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 1: like they're one guy. Is is Dalvin Cook tomorrow? I 1084 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 1: mean they're throwing you. They're just throwing guys out there 1085 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: and saying, Okay, you're the guy. You're the guy. No, yeah, 1086 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,320 Speaker 1: you're you're the guy caught Howard. You know, guys like that, 1087 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 1: the big plotters, they had no use for. So. Yeah, 1088 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,320 Speaker 1: because Salvon Achmed also sideline today as well. So you 1089 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:21,880 Speaker 1: have gay touches, acres are gasking gas. Yeah, I think so. 1090 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 1: You know, he's not gonna share the pie with anybody, 1091 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 1: with anybody. Yeah. The beauty of him too is if 1092 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,920 Speaker 1: they're losing by twenty, he'll catch pat. He's being the 1093 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 1: game no matter what. Yeah, And they'll be losing by 1094 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 1: and they'll probably lose my twenty, which is fine. Julio 1095 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 1: Jones did not practice on Thursday. He's dealing with that hamstring. 1096 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: He's always hard for me because he's how many Wednesdays 1097 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: and Thursdays in his career has he missed and goes 1098 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 1: out and I think more than he's practiced. Yeah, and 1099 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 1: he goes out and has a hundred yards for you, 1100 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: And but that could end up being one of those 1101 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 1: dreaded game time decisions, and that's a later game. Yeah. 1102 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: And the reality is, if I'm Arthur Blank, I'm like, 1103 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't mind if you sit Holio 1104 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: this week. Yeah. Uh. Philip Rivers returned to Colts practice 1105 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 1: on Thursday. He's dealing with that toe issue. I think 1106 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 1: that's about all year lingering offseason surgery. They get the 1107 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 1: Raiders this week. Do you like Philip Rivers against the 1108 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: Raiders defense? Yeah, I mean there's Sivers are stepping up 1109 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah. Besides Ben, he gets touched less 1110 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 1: than any quarterback in the league. Right, I mean they 1111 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,920 Speaker 1: get rid of the ball, they can they can run 1112 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: it a little bit here. I love Taylor this week. Yes, 1113 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna go nuts. Rivers will want will 1114 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 1: rush for zero yards of course, but if Yeah, here's 1115 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: the thing. Can the Raiders offense generate enough against the 1116 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,160 Speaker 1: Colts defense to keep Rivers throwing the football? I think so? 1117 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 1: And we have NFL network on. It just came across 1118 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs is practicing today. Yeah, that's what I figured. 1119 00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 1: Kind of promising, you know. So, Yeah, I think that 1120 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 1: that Colds defense is no joke. It's not. But I 1121 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 1: trust Waller, Car Gruden Jacobs to put points up just 1122 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 1: about against anybody. Yeah. A J. Dillon practiced for the 1123 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,720 Speaker 1: first first time in six two weeks. He was on 1124 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 1: the COVID list that entire time, So I guess that 1125 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: muddy is a what. I don't think they look at 1126 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,560 Speaker 1: Jones as an every down workhorse. I mean, he's kind 1127 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 1: of Camara asked that way they got They've got Detroit 1128 00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,760 Speaker 1: this week. That should be a smash matchup for Aaron Jones. 1129 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 1: Of course you start them, but I don't know that 1130 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 1: I'd pay a million dollars for him in DFS. Yeah, 1131 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,919 Speaker 1: I think you're you're hoping that Detroit keeps it keeps 1132 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 1: the Packers engaged. They played better last week because you 1133 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: want Jones catching passes he's you know they'll use. Yeah, 1134 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 1: you want them because you don't want them. You know, hey, 1135 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 1: it's fourth quarter. We're gonna run Jamal Williams here chance 1136 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: and see what he looks like. Now you want problem. 1137 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 1: You want us to stay close as it did last week, 1138 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,160 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know, Jones breaks off 1139 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 1: a long run at the end of the game and 1140 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 1: has a monster week. I'm thinking about the Lions, I 1141 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,920 Speaker 1: mean Stafford, I think it looks a lot better and 1142 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 1: with with the new coaching staff, will will Swift and 1143 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 1: uh Golladay be available to keep the sudden look like, Yeah, 1144 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 1: I don't know not. Uh. Willie Snead was removed from 1145 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 1: the reserve COVID nineteen lists for the Ravens, and you'd say, well, 1146 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: that's no big deal, but at least need was like 1147 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,560 Speaker 1: their number one receiver for like the last five weeks 1148 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: before going on the COVID list. I know markets Brown 1149 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,439 Speaker 1: has been in our doghouse, but I think they've used 1150 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 1: him a little better the last two weeks and getting 1151 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,280 Speaker 1: them some short throws, getting them manufacturing touches. Cleveland secondaries awful. 1152 01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm started everybody against Cleveland Secondary. Andrews comes back. I 1153 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 1: think Lamar has a good passing game too. Yeah, you know, Uh, 1154 01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson not with the toe injury, not practice again today, 1155 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 1: He's not He's not gonna play. Yeah, that doesn't that 1156 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: he may not play again this year. Yeah, those things linger. 1157 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 1: That's a terrible injury for a back. Yeah. Um but yeah, 1158 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 1: especially even you get a cut and you don't think 1159 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,200 Speaker 1: it's much, but that's gonna keep him out a while. Uh. 1160 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Alexander Madison with the appendeck tomy, remains sideline for Thursday's practice. Uh, 1161 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,320 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook had thirty eight total touches. That's last week. 1162 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 1: It's not what they want, but they don't have anybody else, right, 1163 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 1: it's all Dalvin Cook all the time. Course. Yeah, and 1164 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 1: they got the box. I'm sure they're not going to 1165 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 1: be blowing him out and say, hey, Dalvin's at the 1166 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 1: fourth quarter out. He'll catch a football too, you will. Yeah, 1167 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 1: So that's that's not bad Christian McCaffrey's and that's he's 1168 01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:15,040 Speaker 1: not gonna play again. If I was the owner, I'd 1169 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,640 Speaker 1: be like, why are we putting him out of here again? 1170 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like he's gonna play. Um, he was 1171 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,440 Speaker 1: a sideline of Thursday's practice. That's a shoulder and quad. 1172 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 1: They just you're not going anywhere. Don't beat him up. 1173 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 1: And mixing is even the bigger example of that, Like, 1174 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,320 Speaker 1: there's no way I'm putting this guy out there. IRV 1175 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 1: Smith returned to practice today, but Kyle Rudolph did not. 1176 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: So did we like IRV Smith a little bit more now? 1177 01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,439 Speaker 1: Since Kyle Rudolph is looking like he might not play. 1178 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 1: Not bad. I think you could do worse. It's better 1179 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 1: than the other way around. To me, I think so 1180 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: he gives you a little more juice at the position, 1181 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 1: and Rudolph was pretty decent when IRV was out. Yeah. 1182 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the third receiver on that team, 1183 01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 1: that's not bad. That's not bad. Yeah, especially in the game, 1184 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have to throw thee. He helps cousins 1185 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: um Denzel Mims it's been anounced will not play against 1186 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,080 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. That's a shame because this would have been 1187 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,960 Speaker 1: a game that potentially you know, that's Seahawks secretary. Yeah, 1188 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 1: it's personal thing. He's not going to play. It's a 1189 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,240 Speaker 1: family matter. Uh. He's led the team in targets with 1190 01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 1: twenty seven over the last four games yards over the 1191 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 1: last games. Yeah. Um, so that's that's got to go somewhere. 1192 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,880 Speaker 1: Are you firing up Jamison Crowder? And yeah, I mean 1193 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: I think Seattle that's like a four teen point spread. 1194 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,120 Speaker 1: I think Seattle wins by thirty. Yeah. I think everyone's 1195 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 1: just down. It's kind of like the Steelers. Everyone's down 1196 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 1: on him. What's wrong with Seattle? And they're playing at 1197 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: Jets at home. The Jets have one chance to get 1198 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,440 Speaker 1: a win this year. They have to be a downtrotten team. Like, 1199 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 1: I've had enough. I bet Wilson goes bonkers, but that's 1200 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 1: fine for Perriman and Crowder. Chris Carson still limited. Uh 1201 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 1: with that foot injury. I think he'll end up playing. 1202 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 1: But now they're splitting carry. He's splitting with carlos Ide. 1203 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 1: That's not what you want, is clean and needed. Carson 1204 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 1: was so good early in the year. He's catching the ball, 1205 01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 1: he's running the like and now of a sudden he's 1206 01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 1: he's in a time share. He is, And I wonder 1207 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 1: if the logic is we're holding this guy together with 1208 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 1: you know, duct tape and need him for the stretch 1209 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: and can't wear him out now, which is bad for 1210 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 1: fantasy obviously. Yeah, it doesn't do you any good. Let 1211 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,600 Speaker 1: Tavis Murray limited on Thursday. Um, it could be good 1212 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 1: news for tomorrow. Maybe they got to get him the 1213 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,479 Speaker 1: ball a little bit more if it's pure handoffs would 1214 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 1: be nice. A J. Brown with that ankle injury not practicing, 1215 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 1: is he gonna be a JLIO career where Wednesdays and 1216 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,720 Speaker 1: Thursday's requestionable for a J. Brown might be twenty years 1217 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,440 Speaker 1: and then he goes to the Hall of Fame. Yeah. Um, 1218 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:38,840 Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake with the hip was limited Thursday. Uh, DeAndre Hopkins, No, 1219 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 1: definitely not. DeAndre Hopkins with a neck and back did 1220 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 1: not practice today. Everybody's this is playoff week and everybody's 1221 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: all banged up quality dudes. Yeah. Um, that's about it 1222 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 1: with the with the thing. So there's some big ones 1223 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 1: out to them, Mike, Mike Evans, A J. Brown, you know, 1224 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: and go through every game. It's a little scary. It 1225 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 1: is a little scary heading into the playoffs. There's breaking news. 1226 01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey not expected to play on Sunday. I mean 1227 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,160 Speaker 1: logically that makes perfect sense. Yeah, you know there. They 1228 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 1: haven't won a game a long time. Yeah, so gonna 1229 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 1: be interesting. Good luck to you if you're in your playoffs. 1230 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 1: Good luck to you if you're if you doing DFS, 1231 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,480 Speaker 1: we'll see how that works out as well. But he 1232 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the 1233 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 1: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take a 1234 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 1: break when we come back. I've got a little exercise 1235 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 1: here for Matt that I want to do, uh to 1236 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 1: try here, So we'll do that right after this. Your 1237 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and Goal. 1238 01:04:41,000 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio, Welcome back. I'm Dale Lally here with 1239 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt I have a little exercise here 1240 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 1: for exciting. Okay, I'm gonna give you four teams that 1241 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 1: can win the Super Bowl. You can pick them. Okay, 1242 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: you picked the teams, and then you tell me if 1243 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,160 Speaker 1: you would take those teams to win it, or would 1244 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,880 Speaker 1: you take would you rather take the field everybody else? 1245 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 1: You get the other twenty eight teams. I'm gonna take 1246 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:40,480 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Okay, I'm gonna take the Steelers. I think 1247 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm taking the Saints. All right, that's three. Who's your fourth? 1248 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: Gets Harry? Then? Because there's some others I think, can 1249 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, like the Rams are in my mind? Certainly 1250 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 1: the Bucks are in my mind because they're best game 1251 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,000 Speaker 1: when they're on there, when they're on their game, they're good. 1252 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 1: They could lose in the first round and get embarrassed, 1253 01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 1: but if they're if they get hot, I'll regret. But 1254 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:05,320 Speaker 1: you got the Bills, the Seahawks, the Packers, um, the Ravens. 1255 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 1: The Ravens are still there. The Colts can the Colts 1256 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 1: win it? I don't Tennessee went for Tennessee. Yeah, if 1257 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,040 Speaker 1: Tennessee made the championship game last year. I mean, I 1258 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,440 Speaker 1: don't like leaving Russell Wilson off my list, but I'm 1259 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 1: going to I'm gonna go to the box. You're gonna go. 1260 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 1: So you got the Saints, Chiefs, Steelers, and Bucks, which 1261 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,480 Speaker 1: means the box are gonna go as a wild guard. 1262 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 1: Don't love that, you know. I mean, they're in the 1263 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,960 Speaker 1: same division as a team that's beat him twice. I 1264 01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,080 Speaker 1: still take them, though, Okay, I think coming off of 1265 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 1: bye they could shock us. Now if you were If 1266 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,880 Speaker 1: you were if I said, okay, you get those teams 1267 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,480 Speaker 1: at minus one twenty or the field at plus one ten, 1268 01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,160 Speaker 1: I'll take my four. Okay, you think they're those that 1269 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 1: that one of the Super Bowl winners coming out of 1270 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 1: that group, and even odds give or take yes, just 1271 01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 1: because one of those a FC teams is gonna get 1272 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 1: a bye probably, I'm not gonna say even well, one 1273 01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 1: of those NFC's team is gonna get a bye probably 1274 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,840 Speaker 1: not one isn't. They're both in the same division. One isn't, 1275 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,920 Speaker 1: but it's probably gonna be the st The Saints probably 1276 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,040 Speaker 1: get the buy, but they do play that. They play 1277 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,400 Speaker 1: Kansas City next week on the horizon, and you know 1278 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 1: what's breezing it look like when he comes back. I 1279 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,920 Speaker 1: really think one of those two a f C teams 1280 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:23,400 Speaker 1: will go. But I have more faith in Baltimore and 1281 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 1: Buffalo than I did two weeks ago. Do you have 1282 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,680 Speaker 1: more faith? Do you have four? More faith in Baltimore 1283 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:35,720 Speaker 1: and Buffalo or the Rams, Seahawks, Packers and Bucks or no? 1284 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:40,160 Speaker 1: You picked the Bucks? Right? Right? So Rams, Seahawks, Rams 1285 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: and Seahawks essentially right? What was a question in Rams? 1286 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,480 Speaker 1: And you have more faith than those two teams than 1287 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 1: you do or less faith than those two teams? And 1288 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,320 Speaker 1: you do that like the Bills. But they're all my enemies. Yeah, 1289 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 1: it means a lot of including the Packers, who I 1290 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,080 Speaker 1: didn't consider. But what if Aaron Rodgers goes crazy, I 1291 01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 1: could go crazy or they could get to buy, right, 1292 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:01,920 Speaker 1: they could win out and get to buy It's a 1293 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,760 Speaker 1: good conversation. I hate to say this on Steel Nation Radio, 1294 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,600 Speaker 1: but because I have the Chiefs, I'll take my four. 1295 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:13,919 Speaker 1: And to me, they're still the favorite. I mean we've 1296 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,160 Speaker 1: seen them not according to football o ciders. And that's 1297 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 1: why I wanted the right now, the odds to win 1298 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,639 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The Saints have a thirty five percent 1299 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 1: chance to win the Super Bowl. According to Footballers. That's 1300 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,439 Speaker 1: a big number, especially when you consider the Chiefs are 1301 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 1: second at I assume the Steelers have something that the 1302 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 1: a FC is harder, the FCS harder. The Steelers are 1303 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,720 Speaker 1: at fourteen point seven percent, still good, nice number. The 1304 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 1: Packers are third at nine point or fourth at nine 1305 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,360 Speaker 1: point two percent, So they would pick the Packers as 1306 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:48,599 Speaker 1: their fourth team apparently right now. The Rams are fifty 1307 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,679 Speaker 1: at five point five percent. They would be my fifth choice, 1308 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,960 Speaker 1: and I think the Rams are really good. Six is 1309 01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,600 Speaker 1: the Bills at four point two percent. I understand that. 1310 01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,760 Speaker 1: Seventh is Tampa Bay at three point three percent. Eight 1311 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,599 Speaker 1: is Indianapolis at two point two percent. I don't think 1312 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,640 Speaker 1: they can win it. Nine is Seattle at one to 1313 01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 1: think they can win it. Ten is Tennessee at point 1314 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,599 Speaker 1: eight percent. The Ravens aren't even mentioned on that list. 1315 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,599 Speaker 1: I love football outsiders and we quote them all the time, 1316 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:22,960 Speaker 1: and there's two teams that stand out to me there 1317 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,439 Speaker 1: that I gave more consideration to than football Outsiders did, 1318 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,439 Speaker 1: and that's Tampa and Baltimore because I think their best 1319 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 1: day is awesome. You know what I mean. And if 1320 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,680 Speaker 1: you just look at the numbers and the probability and 1321 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 1: the stats, it hasn't been so great. But basically their 1322 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 1: losses are against good teams. We've seen what the Ravens 1323 01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,400 Speaker 1: are capable of on their best day last year, at 1324 01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,680 Speaker 1: least big time quarterbacks on their best day, you know 1325 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,760 Speaker 1: what I mean? Like that, that's my logic behind those 1326 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 1: because a lot of times you just gotta get hot 1327 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,479 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Here's the thing. Last week did not 1328 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:05,200 Speaker 1: hel the Ravens cause at all that they dropped. They 1329 01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,160 Speaker 1: had a ten point eight drop in their playoff percentage 1330 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 1: in terms of making it as a wild card. Because 1331 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 1: you saw all the teams won. Everybody ahead of them won, 1332 01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,719 Speaker 1: everybody that doesn't matter them, but Cleveland winning in Tennessee 1333 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:26,280 Speaker 1: matters to them, Indie winning, the Raiders winning Miami winning. 1334 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,960 Speaker 1: It all works against them right now, No one's Matterick 1335 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,639 Speaker 1: Greig Williams and Raven fans no absolutely should be furious 1336 01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,439 Speaker 1: with because right now they're sitting at seven and five. Um, 1337 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:39,800 Speaker 1: they pretty much have to beat the Browns. They have 1338 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,320 Speaker 1: to beat the Browns because if they lose that game now, 1339 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 1: they lose the tiebreaker to the Browns because they've already 1340 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 1: been swept by the Steelers. That would be their third 1341 01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,800 Speaker 1: Division loss. They've already also lost to Kansas City. I 1342 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,000 Speaker 1: don't have it in front of me, but I know 1343 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:57,519 Speaker 1: they have an easy last three games. Yeah, it's like think, No, 1344 01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 1: they don't play the Jets, but they play they play 1345 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 1: the Giants, which is no take. But they also have 1346 01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals and uh somebody else that they should beat. Yeah, 1347 01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 1: they'll be favored in our last three games. But if 1348 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,800 Speaker 1: they lose this week, they got six losses, somebody with 1349 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:16,479 Speaker 1: tennis six is getting left out yea, and they lose it, 1350 01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 1: they lose a tiebreaker to Tennessee. Um, you know, and 1351 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 1: I think all six of their losses would be in 1352 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,360 Speaker 1: the conference. So this is a must win game this 1353 01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 1: week for Baltimore. For your exercise of picking teams, I 1354 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,519 Speaker 1: didn't put as much thought of it as we just 1355 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,120 Speaker 1: talked about. But you can't pick Baltimore. They might not play. 1356 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,240 Speaker 1: They might even make it. There's seven of they're on 1357 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,719 Speaker 1: the outside looking in right now. They need things to happen. 1358 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,000 Speaker 1: They don't. I guess they control their own destiny. They 1359 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,320 Speaker 1: go four, they'll get in. But they lose a tiebreaker 1360 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:49,479 Speaker 1: to the Patriots rights, they lose the tiebreaker to the page. 1361 01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,120 Speaker 1: The Patriots are right there at six and six. This 1362 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,679 Speaker 1: is a big game tonight in regards to that, because 1363 01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 1: the Patriots that would happen to win tonight in the 1364 01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,839 Speaker 1: in Baltimore loses to Clean, Baltimore is done. The Patriots 1365 01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,479 Speaker 1: are what they're six and six. If they lose the 1366 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,320 Speaker 1: night of they done. Yeah, that's your seventh loss. They're 1367 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,800 Speaker 1: probably done. Nine and seven is not going to do 1368 01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:10,280 Speaker 1: it in the a f C. I don't think either 1369 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:13,040 Speaker 1: one of us considering the playoff team. But if they win, yeah, 1370 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,880 Speaker 1: but if they win there and they're in a conversation again, yeah, 1371 01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:21,040 Speaker 1: um so right now, on Football Outsiders, they give Baltimore 1372 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:25,559 Speaker 1: seven teen point seven percent chance to be the five seed, Okay, 1373 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 1: a seven teen point eight percent chance to be the 1374 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 1: sixth seed, in a nineteen point one percent chance to 1375 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 1: be the seven seed. And I don't I'm far from 1376 01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,240 Speaker 1: a math wizard from you, PJ. But you don't add 1377 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,160 Speaker 1: those three things up and say that's your playoff chances 1378 01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,639 Speaker 1: because they're well, they're there. Chances of winning getting into 1379 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,800 Speaker 1: as a wild card right now are fifty four point 1380 01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 1: six percent, a little better than fifty, but they that 1381 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,840 Speaker 1: will go up if they beat Cleveland. I think both 1382 01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 1: of those things are gonna be Cleveland back. I think 1383 01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:56,639 Speaker 1: both of us think we're gonna be there. Yeah, I think, 1384 01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:00,600 Speaker 1: but I'm looking here. Uh. Indianapolis's chance to make the 1385 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:04,760 Speaker 1: playoffs is seventy five point six percent. Tennessee's chance is 1386 01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,840 Speaker 1: seventy four point six They're both going to be in 1387 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs probably, and they're one there, one and one 1388 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 1: against each other for to win the division. Right, Tennessee 1389 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 1: owns a victory over what what What the Ravens need 1390 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 1: to happen here is they need Tennessee to win the 1391 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,360 Speaker 1: a f C South because they lose the tiebreaker head 1392 01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:31,840 Speaker 1: to head against against Tennessee. They beat Indianapolis head to head, 1393 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,800 Speaker 1: as did the Browns um But the Colts right now 1394 01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 1: are in the driver's seat. For the Colts have a 1395 01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,599 Speaker 1: fifty three point one percent chance to win the division. 1396 01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 1: Tennessee has a forty six point nine percent chance. So 1397 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,599 Speaker 1: let's let's play the Raiders, right, Colts play the Raiders 1398 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 1: this week. The losers in trouble. The Raiders right now 1399 01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:54,519 Speaker 1: have a forty point seven percent chance to make the playoffs. 1400 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 1: They're sitting there at seven and five, the same record 1401 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,599 Speaker 1: as the Ravens, so but they have a difficult seven 1402 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,439 Speaker 1: and six is trouble for seven and six is his 1403 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,200 Speaker 1: trouble for them. So right now, then you look at 1404 01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:08,559 Speaker 1: the Miami has a sixty three point one percent chance 1405 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,800 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs, even though they play Kansas City 1406 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:15,519 Speaker 1: this week and we'll probably yeah, and they still have 1407 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,759 Speaker 1: Buffalo left on the schedule. Yeah, I don't think Miami 1408 01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,840 Speaker 1: is that good though I don't either, but anyone in 1409 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,479 Speaker 1: the Buffalo game is the last week of the season 1410 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,320 Speaker 1: and it's down there, they might have it locked up, 1411 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 1: and just say, would you if you're if you're Buffalo 1412 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:33,800 Speaker 1: and you're sitting there one Okay, if we let Miami 1413 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,599 Speaker 1: win this, they get into the playoffs and Baltimore doesn't, 1414 01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,880 Speaker 1: and it might work out that they get to play 1415 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,599 Speaker 1: and they play. Yeah, and who would be rather play, well, Woul, 1416 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,280 Speaker 1: We'd rather play Miami. Yeah, I mean they'll they'll be 1417 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,640 Speaker 1: some conversations with that. Buffalo is the obvious one that 1418 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,240 Speaker 1: comes to mind. Where the NFC it won't because the 1419 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 1: East team is going to be the four seed. But 1420 01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,519 Speaker 1: I don't really care this year. If I'm three or four, 1421 01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter yet as long as you're not. 1422 01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:57,640 Speaker 1: If you're not one, it doesn't The rest of it 1423 01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,599 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. And if it means like and rest Josh 1424 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:04,080 Speaker 1: Allen in week seventeen, I'm gonna do it. If it 1425 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,360 Speaker 1: means that even if I fall from you probably won't fall. 1426 01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 1: You don't want to go to four? Well, I think 1427 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:10,680 Speaker 1: that's what my point was. But if you're two or 1428 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,719 Speaker 1: three and it doesn't matter, and that's what's gonna Chiefs. 1429 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,800 Speaker 1: But if you're two or three, then you're then you're 1430 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,360 Speaker 1: on the other side of Kansas City or Pittsburgh. Is 1431 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 1: that enough though, to not rest your guys a week seventeen? 1432 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,920 Speaker 1: Not for me. If it's because I think four the 1433 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,000 Speaker 1: four seeds gonna be the a f C South team, 1434 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,760 Speaker 1: So whoever the one seed is is probably gonna play 1435 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,679 Speaker 1: the a f C South winner. If things hold true, 1436 01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:39,639 Speaker 1: you get that, you get the a f C South 1437 01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,439 Speaker 1: winner in the first round in the second round, the 1438 01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 1: divisional round, whereas if you're the two or three seed, 1439 01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:49,599 Speaker 1: you're gonna get either Pittsburgh or Kansas City at their 1440 01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:54,559 Speaker 1: place at the place which but you know, Okay, give 1441 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:55,720 Speaker 1: me the choice. Do I have? Do you do I 1442 01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,320 Speaker 1: have to go to Kansas City? Like I want to know, 1443 01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,639 Speaker 1: is is Kansas City the one seed or is it Pittsburgh. 1444 01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,800 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking through the Bills perspective, if if I 1445 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,080 Speaker 1: can rest everyone in week seventeen and the worst thing 1446 01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,000 Speaker 1: that happens to me is I fall to four. So 1447 01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:11,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they can fall to four though, because 1448 01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,120 Speaker 1: Indianapolis and Tennessee are sitting there at eight and four, 1449 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:19,639 Speaker 1: although Tennessee has the tiebreaker over them. Steel the Bills, 1450 01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,160 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I don't know. I just think if I'm 1451 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,559 Speaker 1: a division winner, or even the Browns for that matter, 1452 01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,559 Speaker 1: like I can't win the division, I'm either the five 1453 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:33,599 Speaker 1: or six seed in week seventeen, I want to rest everybody. 1454 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to play Nick Chubb against the Steelers 1455 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,559 Speaker 1: a week seventeen if I know I'm going to the playoffs, 1456 01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:40,560 Speaker 1: but I don't. I know I'm not, But I don't know. 1457 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:41,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that they'll look at it that way. 1458 01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,719 Speaker 1: They look at we gotta show we could beat the Steelers. 1459 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,280 Speaker 1: Maybe they will. I think the smart move in week 1460 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,320 Speaker 1: seventeen for teams that are locked up, considering home field 1461 01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,639 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that much and only one team is getting 1462 01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:54,080 Speaker 1: to buy. I want to rest guys went in doubt 1463 01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:59,680 Speaker 1: on Week seventeen, the after the Steelers lost on the 1464 01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,800 Speaker 1: month day night, their first loss of the season. There 1465 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,800 Speaker 1: were a bunch of tweets coming out of Cleveland from 1466 01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,680 Speaker 1: the players, were the Steelers left the door open for us? 1467 01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,559 Speaker 1: Uh not? According not. According to Football Outsiders, the Steelers 1468 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:15,000 Speaker 1: still have a nineties seven point two percent chance to 1469 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,639 Speaker 1: win the division. Cleveland has a two point eight percent chance. 1470 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:21,080 Speaker 1: Don't put the cart before the horse and basically all 1471 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,000 Speaker 1: that needs. I mean, mathematically, if the Steelers just beat 1472 01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,600 Speaker 1: the Bengals, they win the division, right, yes, I mean 1473 01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,839 Speaker 1: if they lose everyone they lose out and beat the Bengals, 1474 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:33,240 Speaker 1: they win the division. Maybe not because yeah, because the 1475 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,200 Speaker 1: Browns have three losses right now, I'm just taking a 1476 01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:38,000 Speaker 1: worst case scenario. If the Browns lose, the Browns lose 1477 01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,680 Speaker 1: on Sunday and the Steelers would win, it's locked. They 1478 01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:45,000 Speaker 1: is locked. So the Browns have to win out to 1479 01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:49,800 Speaker 1: have a chance, including Week seventeen and Steelers. See, I 1480 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 1: don't wanna pick on the Browns, but that's what you 1481 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,200 Speaker 1: don't want to see from the up and coming team. 1482 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:56,760 Speaker 1: If it was, you've got to show you can do 1483 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,479 Speaker 1: it first, right, Like, let's pretend that let's not hard. 1484 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,880 Speaker 1: Let's stars start talking smack about a team that beats 1485 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,400 Speaker 1: you thirty eight to six, right, right, Like, let's pretend 1486 01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:09,360 Speaker 1: the Patriots were their usual self bradies there. They have 1487 01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,759 Speaker 1: two losses right now, they're in control of the East 1488 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 1: and the Dolphins are two games behind them. I don't 1489 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:20,519 Speaker 1: want to uh and Xavian Howard, Oh, doors open for 1490 01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:25,000 Speaker 1: us to take the division. You haven't done anything in 1491 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,120 Speaker 1: the history of the Just want you just you know, 1492 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,200 Speaker 1: one a game, right, right, like the Raiders saying that 1493 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,360 Speaker 1: about the Chiefs. You know, like there's a clear you're 1494 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:36,840 Speaker 1: clearly not the top team and don't Right, if you 1495 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,280 Speaker 1: win the division this year, you can start thinking that way. 1496 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 1: But you've been dominated by the Ravens and Steelers for 1497 01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:48,360 Speaker 1: many people's listings lifetime. Yeah right, you know right, I 1498 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:50,920 Speaker 1: mean since my son has watched football, you know, like 1499 01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,680 Speaker 1: many people. Yeah, in the Ravens. Yeah, it's just right. 1500 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:57,559 Speaker 1: I mean you've been a second class citizen division forever. Yeah. 1501 01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,479 Speaker 1: The Bengals have been more relevant than you have, right, 1502 01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,320 Speaker 1: So let's not pretend that you've done anything. You want 1503 01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:06,760 Speaker 1: a game, and that's that's that's that's what young teams do. 1504 01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,320 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Like, I really like the direction 1505 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,479 Speaker 1: of the team and the coach, and but you gotta 1506 01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,439 Speaker 1: learn how to win first and win and win with 1507 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,600 Speaker 1: with some class. Yeah, and I understand I sound like 1508 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,400 Speaker 1: an old cergine, get off my lawn. I mean that's 1509 01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,519 Speaker 1: what people do. They tweet and they do things on 1510 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:27,760 Speaker 1: social media, but why it serves no purpose and I 1511 01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,920 Speaker 1: serves no purpose. But yeah, I mean that's why they're 1512 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,360 Speaker 1: There's some big, big games this weekend in the NFL, 1513 01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,439 Speaker 1: starting with this one tonight, but done done, Rams and 1514 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 1: Patriots does not seem like a big game in the 1515 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,920 Speaker 1: grand scheme of things. It's huge. It's get in then West. Yeah, 1516 01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:45,560 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that when we come back. He 1517 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,280 Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the 1518 01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,439 Speaker 1: Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll get into all 1519 01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,560 Speaker 1: that in in this week's games, and they're kind of 1520 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:57,639 Speaker 1: ramifications of them when we return right after this. Your 1521 01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:01,280 Speaker 1: tunes about Driven and Home of the Black and Goal. 1522 01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:24,760 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio down. Welcome back up, Dale Welling here 1523 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,759 Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson and they're gonna go through this week's 1524 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:31,280 Speaker 1: schedule because well it's in December time. These are big 1525 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 1: ones out. I want you to give me. I'm gonna 1526 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,160 Speaker 1: give you the games and you give me your whether 1527 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 1: it's a five star matchup or if it's a one 1528 01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:46,280 Speaker 1: star matchup. Yeah, New England at Los Angeles Rams three 1529 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:49,360 Speaker 1: and a half stars, but the coaches kind of bumped 1530 01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,479 Speaker 1: into a four. I mean they're high profile coaches. Super 1531 01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 1: Bowl matchup, you know, there was a little bit drama 1532 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:59,040 Speaker 1: around it, and so standalone game giving it four? Okay? Um, 1533 01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,599 Speaker 1: Next game up? How don't I just lose that here, jeezy? 1534 01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:11,360 Speaker 1: Next game up? Houston at Chicago one. That doesn't matter. One. 1535 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:15,639 Speaker 1: Chicago's technically still alive and if they win the game, 1536 01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:20,599 Speaker 1: win this game, they're back. It matters the Miami they're 1537 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:25,680 Speaker 1: just rooting against. Miami owns Houston's first round pick, and 1538 01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,680 Speaker 1: if the Bears were to get a win, maybe this 1539 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:32,559 Speaker 1: is it. Yeah. Maybe Dallas at Cincinnati. That's as bad 1540 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,920 Speaker 1: as it gets, too, but it has Dallas is still alive. 1541 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,120 Speaker 1: In that NFC East, I was thinking draft, I was 1542 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,080 Speaker 1: given it too, because it's bottom of the draft ramifications. 1543 01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,840 Speaker 1: Dallas is still alive in the NFC East. I don't 1544 01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,160 Speaker 1: believe that to be true, but just the way they're 1545 01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,760 Speaker 1: playing right now, I mean they're right now, they are 1546 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,479 Speaker 1: they are if if we were ranking, if if if 1547 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,280 Speaker 1: this the season were to end today, they would be 1548 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:59,720 Speaker 1: the sixteenth team in the NFC. But if they win there, 1549 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,760 Speaker 1: but if they win this game in Washington in New York, 1550 01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:08,360 Speaker 1: both lose, Washington is at uh at San Francisco and 1551 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:14,080 Speaker 1: the Giants play um somebody good Um Cardinals, Cardinals. Yeah, 1552 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,880 Speaker 1: they're all gonna be competitive games if they lose. All 1553 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,439 Speaker 1: of a sudden. Now Dallas is one game out of 1554 01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:20,920 Speaker 1: first place, and they're probably gonna beat Cincinnati because they're 1555 01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,760 Speaker 1: gonna beat since their offense will move the ball a lot. 1556 01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:26,880 Speaker 1: I guess it's still a one star for me, though 1557 01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,760 Speaker 1: I give it one and a half. I mean, right now, 1558 01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,800 Speaker 1: Dallas is gonna pick first in the draft in the NFC. Yeah, 1559 01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:41,439 Speaker 1: and and okay, that's the situation right yeah. I mean, 1560 01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:46,000 Speaker 1: I hear your point, Kansas City at Miami four, But 1561 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:47,920 Speaker 1: I bet it's we're gonna look back and be good. 1562 01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,760 Speaker 1: That wasn't as good as games Miamis. We talked about 1563 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,679 Speaker 1: Miami before their their strength of schedules awful. They haven't 1564 01:22:54,720 --> 01:23:00,360 Speaker 1: played anybody, haven't beaten really anybody. Yeah, I mean, but yeah, Um, 1565 01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:04,559 Speaker 1: Arizona at New York good one right now in New 1566 01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,599 Speaker 1: York's in first place in the division. I think Cardinals 1567 01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,960 Speaker 1: are in New York. Or this could be a potential 1568 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:14,920 Speaker 1: playoff matchup first round, this possibility that could be, this 1569 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,360 Speaker 1: could be four verses five. I think Arizona is going 1570 01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,240 Speaker 1: the wrong way though. I don't think they're a playoff team. 1571 01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't think they are either. Tyler Murray gets healthy 1572 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,280 Speaker 1: and looks like himself. That's a lot. I mean, he's 1573 01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:24,640 Speaker 1: only run the ball like two or three times a 1574 01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,160 Speaker 1: game lately. Yeah, there's just not that taking that completely 1575 01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:28,800 Speaker 1: out of his game. But I think the Giants and 1576 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:33,840 Speaker 1: Redskins are Washington are interesting teams right now that I 1577 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,000 Speaker 1: want to watch. Early in year, I didn't care about it. Yeah, 1578 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,960 Speaker 1: they were awful. Um Minnesota at Tampa Bay and this 1579 01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,920 Speaker 1: is why Arizona is still alive. Minnesota I believe right 1580 01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:48,040 Speaker 1: now has that spot though, but right now they're the 1581 01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,320 Speaker 1: seventh seed. Yeah, right, Now Minnesota is the seventh seed, 1582 01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,759 Speaker 1: Arizona is the eight, in Chicago's the nine. So Chicago 1583 01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,640 Speaker 1: would happen to win this week in both Minnesota and 1584 01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:00,800 Speaker 1: Arizona lose, which is very feasible. Tampa the sixth seed, right, 1585 01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,720 Speaker 1: they're in it as we speak. Tampa's a six seed. Yeah, 1586 01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,400 Speaker 1: so Tampa nede this game, win it, but it would 1587 01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,360 Speaker 1: hurt they both. Yeah, they both. If if Minnesota wins 1588 01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,120 Speaker 1: this game, they leap frog Tampa into the six spot 1589 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,160 Speaker 1: and they get the head to head. Now it's a 1590 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,280 Speaker 1: four star one then, yeah, this is a big game. 1591 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,759 Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see what Tampa looks like post 1592 01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:26,120 Speaker 1: by too. Denver, Carolina, that's a one. Yeah. Tennessee at 1593 01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:31,160 Speaker 1: Jacksonville that's a two because Jacksonville is hung around with 1594 01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:34,080 Speaker 1: everyone but the Steelers. They've been competitive, and if Tennessee 1595 01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,880 Speaker 1: doesn't wipe the floor with them, that's gonna be a 1596 01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,400 Speaker 1: red flag for me. Yeah, you know, if this turns 1597 01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,800 Speaker 1: into a you know, one of those type games you're 1598 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,920 Speaker 1: watching red Zone channel and if they make this kick, 1599 01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,719 Speaker 1: they're gonna go down to the wire, like yeah, because 1600 01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:50,680 Speaker 1: this is that's Jacksonville. Two weeks ago against Cleveland was 1601 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:54,160 Speaker 1: in that situation. They gave Cleveland the game that Yeah, 1602 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,599 Speaker 1: I mean Packers they were like that. That's what they've 1603 01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:00,759 Speaker 1: been except for the stealer game. Indianapolis in Las Vegas 1604 01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,400 Speaker 1: Big Four, that's a four star matchup if you look 1605 01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:07,600 Speaker 1: at that right now as we sit here, Um, like 1606 01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,639 Speaker 1: last segment we just said, I mean the Vegas loses 1607 01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,120 Speaker 1: that game, that really hurts that. Right now, Indianapolis is 1608 01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:15,400 Speaker 1: the seventh seed. Yeah, that hurts them back right right now, 1609 01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:17,559 Speaker 1: the Raiders are the eight seed. So if the Raiders 1610 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,400 Speaker 1: win that game, they jump up, they jump up to 1611 01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,640 Speaker 1: the to the seventh seed in Indianapolis falls to eight 1612 01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,080 Speaker 1: and actually nine if Baltimore wins, because they would be 1613 01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,880 Speaker 1: Baltimore will be eight and five and have the like 1614 01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,800 Speaker 1: that has more playoff ramifications and Steelers bills. Absolutely yeah 1615 01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:41,720 Speaker 1: right wow, huge one. Um New York at Seattle, that's 1616 01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,559 Speaker 1: the Jets. That's a terrible matchup. It's a terrible matchup. 1617 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,080 Speaker 1: But Seattle just lost to the Giants. The Jets is 1618 01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:51,280 Speaker 1: probably played their best game of the season against the Raiders. 1619 01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,479 Speaker 1: I think they left the tank, though I don't I 1620 01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,160 Speaker 1: would have said the same thing about the like the 1621 01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,320 Speaker 1: Giant's gonna go to Seattle and have a chance to win. 1622 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:01,760 Speaker 1: That they not only had a chance to win, they won. 1623 01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,280 Speaker 1: That's a one star matchup. Seattle struggle. It's like the 1624 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:06,920 Speaker 1: last month of the season. You can talk all you 1625 01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:09,960 Speaker 1: want about the Steelers. Seattle is struggled in the last 1626 01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:11,920 Speaker 1: month of the season, but their defense has gotten better, 1627 01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,960 Speaker 1: but the offense has gotten worse. I think the Steelers 1628 01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:21,560 Speaker 1: are better than Seattle, but with Wilson and Carol, I 1629 01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,600 Speaker 1: think that's just to get right game that you know, 1630 01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,280 Speaker 1: probably if the steel if I don't doubt it, but 1631 01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,240 Speaker 1: if we could be saying if if Seattle struggles with 1632 01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,439 Speaker 1: this game, like we just talked about the Tennessee Jacksonville game, 1633 01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:36,200 Speaker 1: if they win this four you're like, oh, all right, 1634 01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,599 Speaker 1: but it's Seahawks Nation Radio saying, well, if the Jets 1635 01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,519 Speaker 1: were going to Pittsburgh this week, they be in trouble. 1636 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,800 Speaker 1: Like I don't think probably not. I'm not saying they are. 1637 01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that this is a game to keep 1638 01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,840 Speaker 1: an eye on. Like Seattle their fourteen point they should 1639 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 1: blow them up. But if they don't, now you're going 1640 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:56,160 Speaker 1: to there's bigger problems here. Yeah, I mean, they were 1641 01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:58,400 Speaker 1: a big favorite last weekends. The Giants at home still 1642 01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:02,920 Speaker 1: only give them one star. Green Bay at Detroit two stars. 1643 01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:07,200 Speaker 1: Detroit's one. They've been competitive, they've been competitive. Green Bay 1644 01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,280 Speaker 1: right now holds down that two seed in the NFC, 1645 01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,240 Speaker 1: still a game behind New Orleans, and New Orleans has 1646 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:17,439 Speaker 1: to play Kansas City next week, so they gotta keep winning. 1647 01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,320 Speaker 1: In Detroit. On the other hand, Detroit five and seven 1648 01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,920 Speaker 1: after beating the Chicago last week, so they're back into 1649 01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,760 Speaker 1: the place like they're still hanging around there. There's a 1650 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,120 Speaker 1: ten spot right now. I would imagine they're eliminated if 1651 01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:33,520 Speaker 1: they lose this one, though losses, I mean, not necessarily mathematically, 1652 01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,439 Speaker 1: but yeah, they win a tiebreaker over San Francisco, they 1653 01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,880 Speaker 1: went off tiebreaker over Washington. Um, Chicago right now owns 1654 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,320 Speaker 1: the tiebreaker over San Francisco and Washington based on best 1655 01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:48,320 Speaker 1: win percentage in conference game. Uh. They own the tiebreaker 1656 01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:52,720 Speaker 1: over Detroit based on best win percentage in common games. UM. 1657 01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,080 Speaker 1: So there's some you know, you're starting to get into 1658 01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:58,680 Speaker 1: some of that stuff. But Detroit, if they can, you know, 1659 01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,000 Speaker 1: somehow beat the Packers for never do it. No, they 1660 01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:04,000 Speaker 1: usually don't, so they can save their season, but it's 1661 01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,120 Speaker 1: a long shot. It's a long shot. New Orleans at 1662 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:12,760 Speaker 1: Philadelphia two teams that again, if Philadelphia wins this game, 1663 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:16,200 Speaker 1: now they're a half game out of that NFC East 1664 01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:19,000 Speaker 1: New Orleans still trying to some strange quarterbacks. Is New 1665 01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,280 Speaker 1: Orleans looking ahead of this game so we get we're 1666 01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,240 Speaker 1: gonna win this game and we got Kansas City next week. 1667 01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,439 Speaker 1: So I've fallen into the trap too many weeks that 1668 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:29,160 Speaker 1: Philly is gonna be the okay this week? Or they 1669 01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:32,799 Speaker 1: could they could? You know anybody? I think they're broken. 1670 01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:38,240 Speaker 1: And here's the thing though, different offense this week, so 1671 01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,560 Speaker 1: you know they can they surprise New Orleans with some 1672 01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,320 Speaker 1: new stuff on a short week. Could this be a 1673 01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:47,400 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson like situation? I don't think so. I don't either. Yeah, 1674 01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't see it. I think the Saints I do 1675 01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:54,720 Speaker 1: as well. Atlanta at the Chargers. I think Atlanta beat 1676 01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:58,759 Speaker 1: the half start that's a bad one. That might Benna 1677 01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,120 Speaker 1: have a good draft ratification? No, nothing, I mean, there's 1678 01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 1: not much to get excited about. Their Washington at San Francisco. 1679 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,160 Speaker 1: That's a three Washington right now hanging around. They're they're 1680 01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:11,200 Speaker 1: they're tied with the Giants. They lose the tiebreaker to 1681 01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,920 Speaker 1: the Giants right now based on being swept by the Giants, 1682 01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,120 Speaker 1: and they gotta finish ahead of the Giants, right They 1683 01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,559 Speaker 1: need to have more wins than the Giants, which is tough. 1684 01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,120 Speaker 1: And when they've only got six or seven of them. Um, 1685 01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,120 Speaker 1: San Francisco is still right there on the cusp of 1686 01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:26,720 Speaker 1: that that playoffs. But they're the eleventh spot right now 1687 01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,400 Speaker 1: because they lose some of those tiebreakers. Um. But they 1688 01:29:30,479 --> 01:29:33,599 Speaker 1: win a tiebreaker over Washington based on best win percentage 1689 01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:35,519 Speaker 1: in common games. And of course, if they win this 1690 01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:39,280 Speaker 1: football game, and I think the game itself, it wouldn't 1691 01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,680 Speaker 1: shock me if your team one. No, that's a that's 1692 01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:45,839 Speaker 1: a true toss up, pretty even match. Pittsburgh at Buffalo, 1693 01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:50,599 Speaker 1: that's a five. Yeah. I mean it's that's a big 1694 01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:55,120 Speaker 1: time football, that's playoff football, that's contending football. And Sunday night, yeah, 1695 01:29:55,760 --> 01:30:00,439 Speaker 1: playoff atmosphere, yeah, no fans in the stadium, all right. 1696 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:02,880 Speaker 1: But now there's a lot of star power there that 1697 01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:06,120 Speaker 1: they could meet again. Absolutely, yeah. And I don't think. 1698 01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,280 Speaker 1: I don't think one way or the other. If one 1699 01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,200 Speaker 1: of these teams win, whoever wins this game to me, 1700 01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:15,839 Speaker 1: has no bearing whatsoever and who wins a potential rematch 1701 01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,280 Speaker 1: and probably not January. I mean unless it's a really 1702 01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:20,120 Speaker 1: lop side of game or something like that. And I 1703 01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,720 Speaker 1: would be surprised if it's is one way or the other, right, 1704 01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if they one of the teams finds this 1705 01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,160 Speaker 1: matchup that they just keep exploiting, where you know, if 1706 01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:30,439 Speaker 1: it's a if it's a you know, some kind of 1707 01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,680 Speaker 1: turnover that or you know, block kick or something it 1708 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,479 Speaker 1: turns into that makes us a ten point game. I'm 1709 01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,280 Speaker 1: not gonna say, well, they got a bit a big 1710 01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,120 Speaker 1: advantage in this game. I just I just don't see it. 1711 01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:43,960 Speaker 1: And to your point, I'd have a tough time writing 1712 01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,840 Speaker 1: the script where I would say, oh, if they meet again, 1713 01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,679 Speaker 1: it's gonna be te Max easily. Yeah, you know, yeah, 1714 01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:54,360 Speaker 1: I just don't see that. And then finally, Baltimore at Cleveland. 1715 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:58,559 Speaker 1: I think it's a really good matchup for I'm sure 1716 01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:00,840 Speaker 1: this is kind of a Super Bowl ish type feeling 1717 01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:04,080 Speaker 1: for the Browns. How many times have they've been disappointed 1718 01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:07,439 Speaker 1: going into a game like that? A million? I think 1719 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,519 Speaker 1: Lamar has a big game right now. Cleveland is the 1720 01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,960 Speaker 1: five spot if the playoffs started today. The matchups in 1721 01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:18,959 Speaker 1: the first round would be Kansas City versus Indianapolis, Buffalo 1722 01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:27,160 Speaker 1: versus Miami okay, and uh, Tennessee versus Cleveland. Okay, who 1723 01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:31,120 Speaker 1: wins that game? Cleveland just rolled him. I would feel 1724 01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,559 Speaker 1: pretty good about Tennessee and they just got killed by 1725 01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,920 Speaker 1: the Browns that game though, you know, watching that, watching 1726 01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:40,200 Speaker 1: that game, that that fourth down conversion that that Tennessee 1727 01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:44,439 Speaker 1: went for early really changed the complexions if they make 1728 01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:47,120 Speaker 1: If they make that, it's seven nothing at that point. 1729 01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:51,120 Speaker 1: If they make that conversion, I think Tennessee wins that game, 1730 01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:55,160 Speaker 1: which is because it's just everything because the Browns went 1731 01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:56,840 Speaker 1: right down the field and scored again and then the 1732 01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,160 Speaker 1: Titans had the pun again and it's just it just 1733 01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,840 Speaker 1: steamrolled on him a little bit. I mean, that's really 1734 01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,519 Speaker 1: predicting the future. But there's a lot of games like that. 1735 01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean, the muff punt against the Ravens at the 1736 01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:11,519 Speaker 1: Steelers guests gave them light, you know, like a big 1737 01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:14,880 Speaker 1: play early like that, where the narratives being written like 1738 01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:16,960 Speaker 1: you expect and the team that you think is gonna 1739 01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:20,160 Speaker 1: control and controls it and then oh it's such a 1740 01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:23,400 Speaker 1: big momentum swize, it really is. But that's interesting. Is good. 1741 01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,240 Speaker 1: Good schedule games this week, it's a lot of big ones. 1742 01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:28,800 Speaker 1: Um real quick note too, I think that there's no 1743 01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,280 Speaker 1: by weeks and they don't have a million games at 1744 01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,080 Speaker 1: one so they're spaced out a little bit too. We 1745 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:34,800 Speaker 1: can actually kind of watch them and then next week 1746 01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:37,400 Speaker 1: we have Saturday games. Oh yeah about that? How about 1747 01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:40,599 Speaker 1: that Tuesday or Wednesdays? I hope. Yeah, but that's gonna 1748 01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:42,120 Speaker 1: do it. For our show today, we did want to 1749 01:32:42,160 --> 01:32:46,639 Speaker 1: make mention again of the book Paula Malu by Jim Wexel. 1750 01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:49,360 Speaker 1: You can pick that up a lot of different places 1751 01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:51,880 Speaker 1: at Jim Wexel dot com, or you can look at 1752 01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,840 Speaker 1: the Steelers a shop Steelers dot com and get that 1753 01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,800 Speaker 1: as well shop dot Steelers dot com, uh and any 1754 01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,280 Speaker 1: of the Steelers Sideline stores. So you and pick it 1755 01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,639 Speaker 1: up there as well. So uh, good to uh, good 1756 01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:04,120 Speaker 1: to pick that up. Good to talk to Jim today 1757 01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:06,639 Speaker 1: about that book. It's an interesting read. Pick it up there. 1758 01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,280 Speaker 1: Uh for my partner Matt Williamson. Uh. For Jacob here 1759 01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:11,800 Speaker 1: on site keeping us on the air. And we want 1760 01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:13,519 Speaker 1: to thank Jim for stopping by and talking to US 1761 01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,120 Speaker 1: as well. We also want to thank you for listening 1762 01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,080 Speaker 1: to the show. I'm Dale, Lolly. We'll see you tomorrow 1763 01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:19,920 Speaker 1: with the Drive