WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Big Questions Before Training Camp

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, June thirteenth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>episode number twelve. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Derek Eagles and I'm back hosting this thing. Just

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<v Speaker 1>get back. We're gonna, yeah, We're gonna. We're gonna try

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<v Speaker 1>to get to a lot of stuff. This is our

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<v Speaker 1>final show before we take a little bit of a break,

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<v Speaker 1>which Dave desperately needs right now. We're gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>little break here for about five or six weeks to

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<v Speaker 1>let you guys catch your breath before we head right

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<v Speaker 1>into training camp and startup shows on July twenty fifth.

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<v Speaker 1>We will leave on July twenty four, pool star shows

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<v Speaker 1>on the twenty fifth. How's every about doing this morning?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited. I'm great for your break. Just everything

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<v Speaker 1>like Dave hasn't been celebrating since last week. No, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited for a little downtime, but I'm excited for

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<v Speaker 1>training camp, like this is just another step in the

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<v Speaker 1>process of getting there. But like in the meantime, a

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<v Speaker 1>little break sounds nice too, it does. I'm so looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to just I know, I have a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks of vacation coming up here and I cannot wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody had the audacity in the locker room. I won't

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<v Speaker 1>name names, but yesterday in the locker room, somebody was like,

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<v Speaker 1>how is your off season? Man? I was like, shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>Was this a player? No, No, it was somebody else

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<v Speaker 1>in the media. Okay, okay, well what you've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>with all your downtime? Because they do what downtime? A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the media that covers the Cowboys, they do

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<v Speaker 1>take a little bit of time off during the season,

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the most annoying months of the year

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<v Speaker 1>because like all the non all the other outlets that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't purely Cowboys come out here and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>like I haven't really been paying attention and like we've

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<v Speaker 1>been dealing with baseball in the hockey or whatever. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, it's all cowboys all the time here.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, how you doing it? Great? Thank you? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready talking, man, get into this. Did you do

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<v Speaker 1>some calistitics get warmed up here? No, I'm I'm warm.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like awkward, but okay. Like the dog that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>need to stretch before it runs off the porch, just

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<v Speaker 1>takes off, like Randy Moss his first ten years of

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<v Speaker 1>his career. Oh yeah, he didn't stretch. That was the

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<v Speaker 1>weirdest thing ever. The whole team would be down there stretching.

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<v Speaker 1>He'd just be walking through the line just kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm guess that would I don't stretch? Yeah, first, like

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<v Speaker 1>Cole Beasley says, yeah, that's what I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>him and Dak Yeah what what was it? Yeah? It

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<v Speaker 1>was like I think our cameras caught it during the

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine er game last year, Like Dak was riding

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<v Speaker 1>the stationary bike to get loose before the second half,

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<v Speaker 1>and Beasley was like, I don't need that, man, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like a dog. I just hop off, and Dak

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<v Speaker 1>was like, your dog probably stretch too. I am still

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that. Yeah, it was kind of a dumbuch conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun though, Yeah, Jock City inside. Yeah, all right, we

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of stuff I want to talk about today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk a little bit about Zack Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk a little bit about this mini camp that's

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<v Speaker 1>happening this week, final time the team will be together

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<v Speaker 1>here before training camp. I want to talk about some

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<v Speaker 1>comments that came out from Cole Beasley yesterday. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>we're interesting about playing wide receiver here and the new

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<v Speaker 1>coach and how they're approaching things. And then at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the show, I have a few questions that

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of wrap up offseason questions that I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do before we go to our break, before we

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<v Speaker 1>go on our hiatus, because I want to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>give people an idea that haven't been following along, Just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a wrap up with a few questions from

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<v Speaker 1>an answers from you guys of kind of what this

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<v Speaker 1>offseason has meant and what your expectations are as we

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<v Speaker 1>head into training camp. So first let's start with Zack Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been talking, I guess for a few days now

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<v Speaker 1>that this contract is imminent. Stephen Jones said as much

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday. Looks like it could be happening any point.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we know at this point as far as

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<v Speaker 1>timing or does that even matter at this point, now

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<v Speaker 1>that we really kind of know this is going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm confident it will be completely done before July twentieth. Good,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I can give you. Probably before that, yeah, probably,

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<v Speaker 1>but it will be done. Talk about hedging your beds.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. Yep, this, I mentioned this to you yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this, it's like only the cowboys have stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>this happened, which is so but you know, I've had

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days to think about it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of leaked out at a sponsors luncheon here,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily a media event, where Stephen Jones kind of

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<v Speaker 1>threw that out to the crowd to you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, hey, well he might be a practice

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<v Speaker 1>and then the media at large ran with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the deal's gonna get done. But it's so

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre to me, Like we you know, we talked to

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<v Speaker 1>Zach yesterday and he hasn't signed anything. We're just like,

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<v Speaker 1>but how will it feel when you do? You signed?

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, you're going to be the highest paid guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just like, yeah, I hope so, because I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>signed anything yet, and I do think it's gonna get done,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's just weird to me the way this was

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<v Speaker 1>basically reported as like it's gonna happen, but it hasn't happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and now everybody's just taking Well. I got on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw it. I'm like, okay, when when did

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<v Speaker 1>this happen? I haven't heard it from us, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our people. Okay, something it's not enough here happened. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what happens when you said a sponsored event. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the media rolled rolled with it. That's what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when the media is a sponsor. But see it was sponsored.

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<v Speaker 1>But if we want to if we want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the real nuts and bolts of it, like the

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<v Speaker 1>Morning News was there, they just reported as a sponsor.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, okay, but they just reported what Stephen said,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that kicked it into high gear with other outlets,

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<v Speaker 1>NFL Network, a certain reporter that anybody who follows the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL can identify if you think about it, just he's

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<v Speaker 1>that story was there. People knew this was coming down

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<v Speaker 1>the pipe, and that just kicked it into the high

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<v Speaker 1>gear where people will were like, well, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get beat on this, So I'm just gonna throw

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<v Speaker 1>out what I got, even though it's not done. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not fully baked, but I don't know to feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being left behind and exactly. And I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think Zach was mad, but he kind of yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, yeah, like yo, he'all really jumped on

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<v Speaker 1>this considering it's not done. So it's just weird. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's the type of thing that only happens with the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys because they garner so much interest and so much attention,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the end of the day, the fans don't

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<v Speaker 1>really care. I don't think they care. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>want him to be at the left guard position, right guards.

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<v Speaker 1>They want him to be at the right guard position

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<v Speaker 1>for the next six or seven years, and he will be.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't matter to them if he's the highest paid guard

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<v Speaker 1>or not. But one thing. But I think I just

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<v Speaker 1>get the signature on the paper, yes, and it'll be done.

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<v Speaker 1>I think fans should know too. I know sometimes fans

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<v Speaker 1>are probably like, well, why does that really matter if

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<v Speaker 1>they report that? Well, fact, the matter is just I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen situations. You guys have probably seen something as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Were literally we knew that there was a contract that

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<v Speaker 1>was out there, like there's a contract that exists for

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<v Speaker 1>a particular player, Cowboys are ready to go with this contract,

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<v Speaker 1>and it sounds like the other side ready to go

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<v Speaker 1>with it, and then you get months later nothing has

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<v Speaker 1>been done with it. So that's why I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be careful. Yes, there may be reported terms

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<v Speaker 1>that are out there, there may be hey, this could

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<v Speaker 1>be imminent, but until it's done, it's not done. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's the part I think fans should most be weary of.

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<v Speaker 1>When they read those kinds of reports. You just know

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<v Speaker 1>that you're being kept up to speed on maybe what

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<v Speaker 1>people are thinking and what could be exist, what could exist.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not done, though, so just be careful with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And as Nick said, by July twentieth, we should have

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of conclusion that you think that's when it

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<v Speaker 1>will happen, betting on that date. If it hasn't happened

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<v Speaker 1>within a week, that's bizarre to me. That saturday in

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<v Speaker 1>it Oh, July twenty sounds about right, But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>za Zach said yesterday that he was like, I felt

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<v Speaker 1>good enough about the progress we've made that I was

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<v Speaker 1>willing to come here so, I mean, that's the best sign,

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<v Speaker 1>right if he's. If he's I would be pissed if

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<v Speaker 1>I were him and he hasn't gotten it done by

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<v Speaker 1>a month from now, I mean geez. So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's move on. Let's talk a little bit about the

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<v Speaker 1>mini camp that started up yesterday. They have practices today

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<v Speaker 1>as well as tomorrow. First, let's talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about David Irving. He's been out, has not been a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the OTA's returned yesterday. First of all, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me what he was involved in yesterday as far as

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<v Speaker 1>just how much did he work in, And then just

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<v Speaker 1>just to give people kind of clarity on what's been

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<v Speaker 1>happening with him, Why has he not been here, what's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason if we know one, why he hasn't been here,

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of where he is right now. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as his status that you want to I want to

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<v Speaker 1>just take that. No, I can't say it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anything. Go and well, clearly his girlfriend or baby

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<v Speaker 1>mama or what people call it, I don't know, she

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<v Speaker 1>got on his Twitter account, hacked his twitter started Twitter. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>how he's been violent and going through you know, dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with domestic violent stuff. Then it came out that she

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<v Speaker 1>came back and refrained from the things that she said

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<v Speaker 1>accusing him, saying that, you know, he's actually really good

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<v Speaker 1>to me, he's good to his kid, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no reports I guess officially made to the police,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe there were, but nothing actually happened with that

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. That's all I know, And that's all I

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<v Speaker 1>saw as far as that from what I've hear, I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard he's dealing with the whole thing with his child

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe trying to get custody of his kid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I think that is about as succinct

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<v Speaker 1>as you can put it. With everything that is public information.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, it sounds like he's going through

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<v Speaker 1>a breakup or some drama with her and the I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're the police got involved in first go like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that was like a month a month and

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<v Speaker 1>a half ago. But I think it's just it's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole ball of byes basically that he's trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>sorted out. And I think he hadn't even been in

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<v Speaker 1>Texas for most of the last month or so. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do anything yesterday. I mean, he's been gone, he's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they said he was out of shape at

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<v Speaker 1>the start of OTAs, so you know they're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be any better shape now. As far as what you

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<v Speaker 1>can see or what you've heard, he's he's he's running

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<v Speaker 1>with the conditioning staff. I mean, he's you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do anything that resembled football, and I doubt he

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<v Speaker 1>will until training camp. Does that at all concern you

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<v Speaker 1>going into training camp, because in my opinion, he's one

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<v Speaker 1>of your top two defensive linemen. Does that concern me? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean everything he's doing is concerning me. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as what they're going to do long term with him,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to figure out how many sacks does he

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<v Speaker 1>need to get this season to be resigned by the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's ten, yeah, because I think if just

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion here, I think the Cowboys are like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, we'll keep you this year hopefully things will

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<v Speaker 1>turn around, and it's not looking like things are turning

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<v Speaker 1>around right now. I mean, he's not starting off the

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<v Speaker 1>contract year on the right way, and he's got to

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<v Speaker 1>really get this thing back in his direction. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to have an amazing year. I think to stay here.

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<v Speaker 1>The big word for him, I think is unreliable. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's from a lot of different standpoints. He's had suspensions,

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<v Speaker 1>he's had drama, he's had injuries, Like, there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things that have kepted injuries. Yeah, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>lots of things that kept him off the field. Rings

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. I don't think that's been an issue, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's had a lot of things that's kept him off

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<v Speaker 1>the field. And when you start thinking about a contract

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<v Speaker 1>year and you start thinking, like, how are we gonna

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do we want to pay this guy? And

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<v Speaker 1>do we want to pay him really big money? Like

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<v Speaker 1>if he has a great season, do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>invest a lot of money in him? Knowing that to

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<v Speaker 1>this point in his career he's been unreliable, that makes

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<v Speaker 1>it very tough, right, Yeah, but yeah, this reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>of a conversation we had last night off air, which

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, yeah, from a football perspective of

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<v Speaker 1>your especially, I mean, it's such a big year for him,

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<v Speaker 1>you want him to be as focused as possible. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's exaggerating to say this is the

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<v Speaker 1>most important year of his life, because if he does

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<v Speaker 1>everything the right way, I mean he could cash in

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<v Speaker 1>in such a big way, whether it's here or somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, and you know, he puts

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<v Speaker 1>something on social media like a week ago or two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago that was like, you know, I wish people

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<v Speaker 1>would be, you know, talking about the real reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not there, kind of hinting at everything that we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about. And I think he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no football if there's no me, and so a

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<v Speaker 1>part of me is like, you know, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>sort that out. You gotta get your mind right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>mental health is something that people have been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a lot recently thanks to you know, not thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>but because of things in the news, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's important. So I'm reluctant to kill him for that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, get your life in order, and if it

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<v Speaker 1>helps you focus more later, that's great. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, he's got a long enough track record with

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<v Speaker 1>this where I can't feel one hundred percent confident that

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to show up at training camp and just

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<v Speaker 1>be all right and I and make no mistake about it.

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<v Speaker 1>If if what Amber was saying or alluding to with

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<v Speaker 1>regard to him having to deal with things with his

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<v Speaker 1>family with his kid. I'm always a big believer and

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<v Speaker 1>take your family first. You gotta get that stuff right.

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<v Speaker 1>And because you're not going to be any good in

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<v Speaker 1>other parts of your life. If every day you're dreading

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<v Speaker 1>going home, right, that's not going to be good for you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So get that stuff taken care of. I totally agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that. But and that's why I also said, like,

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<v Speaker 1>when you say unreliable, there are a lot of facets.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just that, it's a lot of these other

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<v Speaker 1>things that also are a part of the mix that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just indicates that he is somewhat unreliable in all facets,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you just can't rely on him to be there

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<v Speaker 1>because there's always something right, whether it's in this instance

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<v Speaker 1>it's the family stuff, but in other instances it's a suspension,

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<v Speaker 1>in other instances it's it's an injury. In other instances,

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<v Speaker 1>they can't keep him on the field because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he's he can, you know, kind of keep

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<v Speaker 1>that same level of energy throughout the entire game. Like

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is that they feel like makes him unreliable,

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, he's unreliable. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm giving him the benefit of the dial dow as

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<v Speaker 1>far as that whole unreliability aspect of it, just because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean altas were voluntary. So okay, he wasn't here, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>not a big deal. I'm not buying into the whole

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<v Speaker 1>line of him being out of shape. I know he

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<v Speaker 1>does look bigger, you know, a little more weight. Not

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<v Speaker 1>he's not the kind either that he takes off a shurting.

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<v Speaker 1>People are like impressed, like he's a he's a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I think he's kind of a little no. No,

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<v Speaker 1>did you see him last year at this time last year?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know Instagram to where he was I can

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<v Speaker 1>show I could show you an Instagram if you want

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<v Speaker 1>the nude photos. Oh yeah, I don't. And I'm good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I think it's noticed. But that was that

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<v Speaker 1>college that was last fall. Really yeah, but again, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not like obese and he's fine. You look at the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that play football. He's okay, he's in good ship

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<v Speaker 1>and he's playing defensive tackle. Ye got a little good?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that? Really? So That's why I'm not falling into

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<v Speaker 1>And again I don't know how the whole process comes.

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<v Speaker 1>How you know what happens there when you come back

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<v Speaker 1>during the off season and get back into football shape

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. But I don't think that's the main

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<v Speaker 1>story here, him being out of shape. I'm not buying that. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're right, but I mean he's not. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>not that's not the totality of the story. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>see other stuff. All Right, it's a it's it's he's

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<v Speaker 1>like the biggest variable on this entire roster in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, there's a there's also a list of guys

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<v Speaker 1>who are not involved in the mini camps. Um, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>really like you guys to just kind of run over

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<v Speaker 1>a few of those guys that are not there. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to run over him. Wow, take us through the

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<v Speaker 1>list a few guys that are not there. And really,

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<v Speaker 1>more importantly, I really want to know if there are

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<v Speaker 1>any guys specifically that are not out there right now

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<v Speaker 1>that you have concerns about as far as as far

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<v Speaker 1>as them being available for for for training camp. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think there's a single guy on that list, assuming

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<v Speaker 1>they're not getting run over by a car by you

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<v Speaker 1>or me or anybody. Okay, uh, light pole, Yeah, it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be a dangerous holiday. Hey, as much as

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<v Speaker 1>much fun as it is for us to be off

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a scary time to cover the cowboys or

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<v Speaker 1>about you just like, oh god, no doubt about that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nobody on that list that really worries me from

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<v Speaker 1>a long term perspective, except for probably MALIEK. Collins. He

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<v Speaker 1>was in a boot yesterday. I I mean, he had

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<v Speaker 1>this big old boot that went all the way past

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<v Speaker 1>his knee, and I was just like, that's doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>good if you're supposed to be practicing in July or August. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know him and Terrence are coming off foot surgeries.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody else, I feel like, you know, I have one.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna roll your eyes all right, hit me, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's dumb. It's not a big issue obviously, But when

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<v Speaker 1>I heard that Tyren Smith had like on his shoulders, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wait what, I don't roll my eyes with that

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<v Speaker 1>at all, agreeing with you, but I don't feel that

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<v Speaker 1>so that that was a big oh oh okay. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't been doing much during like OTAs and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>so just by taking it easy, there's still a whole

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder thing popping up. Yeah, that concerns me. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal right now, but you know, giving his history,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's two ways to look at that, which like

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<v Speaker 1>I could roll my eyes at you and be like

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<v Speaker 1>a big freaking whoof, he's the best player on the team,

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<v Speaker 1>like he can have as many reps off as you want.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, you're like, he's had a

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder problem during non contact practices after having a whole

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<v Speaker 1>off season. I mean, I hear you, and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>worried about it right now, but I just think that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be It's a thing that you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to keep an eye on for the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>Tyrant's career. I just I mean at this point, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's if all you're doing is keeping an eye on

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<v Speaker 1>it and trying to manage him, then that's great. When

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<v Speaker 1>it starts showing up where he's missing games and that's

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<v Speaker 1>where it's an issue, and the hope is that that's

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<v Speaker 1>not been a trend that's going to continue, that he's

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<v Speaker 1>having to miss games because of whatever the injuries are,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly injuries to the back end to the neck, Like

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<v Speaker 1>those are the issues that I tend to get a

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<v Speaker 1>little more concerned about as you get older, because those

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<v Speaker 1>things don't repair themselves as quickly as maybe other injuries do.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's take our first break. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about cares about hockey. You're not drawing

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<v Speaker 1>me off sides? Yeah you almost did. You're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>When you get past the blue line? You can't go

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<v Speaker 1>pass the line before the puck passed goes in first line,

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<v Speaker 1>the blue line, of the red line, the blue line.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm on it. Derek's game, Game five of

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<v Speaker 1>the Stanley Cup Finals was the first hockey I watched

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<v Speaker 1>for the last week. I don't know most hockey watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Look what you love it? Actually, look what you did. Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're like, we're so far in the weeds. Last

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. Yeah, last show for a month. Oh well,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's get back to it. Actually, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we should go into that topic a little bit. It

0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:41.600
<v Speaker 1>might kill one of our other segments. But um, we

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<v Speaker 1>started talking a little about Connor Williams, and um it

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<v Speaker 1>was I guess it was precipitated by a conversation that

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<v Speaker 1>David and I were having last night with Brian um

0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:53.840
<v Speaker 1>about what he was what he was seeing from Connor Williams. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that he mentioned was just

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<v Speaker 1>that it's going to take him a little bit to

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<v Speaker 1>get accustomed to playing where he's playing, playing a guard

0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:03.919
<v Speaker 1>he played tackle at Texas, and a lot of what

0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:06.560
<v Speaker 1>he did at Texas the reason he was success successful

0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 1>at Texas, I think, and what Brian was saying is

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:11.560
<v Speaker 1>because of his athleticism. It was his ability to kind

0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:14.080
<v Speaker 1>of make sure guys don't get around him. But playing

0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:16.600
<v Speaker 1>guard is a much different thing. And Nick I was

0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:18.800
<v Speaker 1>saying in the break, I actually thought of you when

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:20.560
<v Speaker 1>he started talking about it, because I remembered you talking

0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:23.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot when they were making the transition from Ron

0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:26.879
<v Speaker 1>Leary about how playing guard for you, you want a

0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:28.879
<v Speaker 1>guard that's going to push people around. You want to

0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:30.520
<v Speaker 1>get that push. It was the reason why you weren't

0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:32.720
<v Speaker 1>a big fan of Lyle Collins necessarily playing there as

0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:35.480
<v Speaker 1>much as you were a guy like Ron Leary. But

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<v Speaker 1>talk about just if if the issue for him right

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<v Speaker 1>now is the transition to guard, How does that How

0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:44.359
<v Speaker 1>does that look on an offensive line and otherwise looks

0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:46.640
<v Speaker 1>really really good? Yeah, well, I mean I think that

0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:48.560
<v Speaker 1>that was some of the issues we saw back in

0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:52.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen. They were the worst rushing team on third

0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:54.400
<v Speaker 1>and one in the league. They had three Pro Bowlers,

0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and I think Lyle Collins was even an alternate to

0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:59.119
<v Speaker 1>the Pro Bowl but yet when it came down to

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<v Speaker 1>really doing your job and knocking people back a yard

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:04.240
<v Speaker 1>or two off the ball, they had a hard time

0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:06.159
<v Speaker 1>doing that. And I think that's where your strength with

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams is going to come into play, or anybody

0:23:08.440 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 1>really that that's that's the strength. You can't expect these guys.

0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:13.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure if Texas has a great weight room,

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:16.399
<v Speaker 1>but you can't expect these college players to come in

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and have the kind of strength that they're you know,

0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:20.359
<v Speaker 1>that that you want them to have to play at

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 1>this level. So I think that's going to be an adjustment.

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, and and well, it's a little

0:23:25.720 --> 0:23:28.440
<v Speaker 1>tricky right now because and I know, I know brought

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>us looks at it as much as anybody, but it

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.040
<v Speaker 1>is still a little tricky this part of the season

0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.520
<v Speaker 1>to see how strong a guy is when he's really

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 1>not being able to push people off the ball. It's

0:23:38.320 --> 0:23:40.720
<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of you know, it's harder to see

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 1>the strength. We'll see what happens in training camp and

0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:45.880
<v Speaker 1>we'll see what what his notes look like. They're really

0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:49.119
<v Speaker 1>trying to knock those guys back, but um, it's a

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.440
<v Speaker 1>little bit alarming right now. But I think that's somewhat

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 1>to be expected. Okay, and and well, and we're gonna

0:23:55.080 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 1>knock on wood and just assume that Tyron Smith will

0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 1>be there, which if you're and I mean I never

0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:04.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't think anybody expects him to just be an

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:07.399
<v Speaker 1>all pro right away. But he's playing between two all pros.

0:24:07.560 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 1>And that's the point I made right before we came

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 1>back from the break, is like, sorry, Zach, if we're

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 1>making you the highest paid guard in football, then Travis's

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 1>attention should be elsewhere. I'm counting on you to not

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.120
<v Speaker 1>need help basically. Well, but I think that the issue there,

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and what I think really started this conversation in the

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 1>break was what happens then if Tyron is not available

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and now you have back up at tackle and you

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.879
<v Speaker 1>have Connor Williams over there, who is a rookie and

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.160
<v Speaker 1>who may at times look like a rookie, Like, are

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you back to just a tough situation on the left

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>side of your offensive? Why you paid Cam Flinting a

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 1>decent amount of money? I mean, I don't. He's not

0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna make anybody forget about Tyron Smith. But if he's

0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:48.720
<v Speaker 1>as good as his contract and his play with the

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Patriots suggests, then you should be able to weather that

0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:53.879
<v Speaker 1>better than they did last year. Won't be the Atlanta

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Falcons game. I mean, if that happens again with what

0:24:57.440 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 1>they've done this year, then I don't. I don't. I

0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:03.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know what to do, because I mean, they sure

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:05.720
<v Speaker 1>looks like they've taken all the appropriate steps. All right,

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.840
<v Speaker 1>all right, let's jump back in on Cole Beasley. I'm

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna read this quote for you, and then I just

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:12.399
<v Speaker 1>want to get before I say anything, I want to

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>get your reactions to the quote, what your thoughts are here.

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Here's what he said yesterday. He was actually speaking to

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.400
<v Speaker 1>one of the media members in the locker room, Jerry Epstein.

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Here's what he said. It feels like the first time

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:28.400
<v Speaker 1>we're actually being taught how to run routes instead of

0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 1>just naturally doing it. When you get to the NFL

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and you're supposed to know stuff is assumed. Law narrows

0:25:36.680 --> 0:25:41.560
<v Speaker 1>down step by step, doesn't assume anything from basics. That

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>being said, tell me what your thoughts are hearing an

0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 1>NFL wide receiver, particularly in this instance, Cole Beasley say

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>that I think that he's being honest because a lot

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>of times we just like we were just talking before

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:56.919
<v Speaker 1>about well, if you can play tackle, you know you're

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:58.399
<v Speaker 1>a title, you can just move to guard. If you're

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 1>a corner, you can move to safety. Well if you're

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:02.679
<v Speaker 1>if you're a position, if you're a head coach in

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 1>college football, you could just be a position coach. And

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 1>that's not always the case. It goes back to basics.

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's what we heard that about Sanjay Law from

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 1>back in the Senior Bowl when he was first being hired,

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:17.080
<v Speaker 1>that he was a great teacher. Jerry Jones said, he

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 1>is an outstanding teacher, and that's what it is. Dave

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Campos said to me that he much, I mean, the

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>money was great as a head coach and a coordinator,

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 1>but he loved being a defensive backs coach because he

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:30.160
<v Speaker 1>could really teach technique and sometimes that's what a coach's

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:32.440
<v Speaker 1>true calling is. And that's what it seems like that

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:35.159
<v Speaker 1>Sanjay Law is. So I don't know if it's necessarily

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 1>a dig at the other guys and Derek Dooley and

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 1>the former receiver coaches here, but I think that's the

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:42.800
<v Speaker 1>attention to detail that makes Sanjay Law a little bit

0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:46.120
<v Speaker 1>different than others. Which and you've seen it, like Nick said,

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 1>you've seen this storyline progress, which it's one thing. You know,

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 1>everybody just everybody loves their draft picks, everybody loves their

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.719
<v Speaker 1>new coaches. Like that's just a thing. But you know,

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 1>it's one thing. All the way back in January, Jerry's

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 1>like he's a great teacher. He's you know, he teaches.

0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.320
<v Speaker 1>These guys were out running better than anything. And then

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you get to rookie camp and you know, the rookies

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 1>aren't even allowed to touch the ball while they're out

0:27:07.800 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>on the field because it's all about fundamentals. And then

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you take it to the next step and the veterans

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 1>are even saying it, so I mean, clearly, I mean

0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:16.120
<v Speaker 1>that's the MO that's been the EMO since they hired

0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the guy. It just goes back to some of the

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 1>things I heard last year from some wide receivers referring

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to them not being put in their best position on

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.359
<v Speaker 1>the field. It goes back to what Dave was saying,

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>having a good teacher. When you have a good teacher,

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you gain a different kind of respect. You want to learn,

0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:36.399
<v Speaker 1>you want to do better when you know that the

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.640
<v Speaker 1>person above you knows what they're talking about, and knows

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:41.960
<v Speaker 1>what they're doing and knows how to put you in

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:45.240
<v Speaker 1>your best position. So the fact that Cole said something

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 1>like that, I mean, it makes me excited to hear

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 1>that and excited to see what they can become with

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 1>this new coach around here and knowing how to position

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>them and seeing that the receivers are having this different

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of respect that they didn't have before. Well, if

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 1>all that's being If if all this is the case,

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>then I have an issue with how things have gone

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>in the offseason because they have not used this money

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:13.920
<v Speaker 1>that Dez Bryant contract created anywhere. Doesn't sound like they're

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>just trying to go out and get a safety. So

0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:20.719
<v Speaker 1>if this guy is such a great teacher at running routes,

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and what player did have had the most issues running

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 1>routes was des Briant, So why not use des Bryant

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>as his as Sanjay Law's best pupil. I mean, why

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>why is he coming in here to teach that? Then

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 1>why didn't they let Dez Bryant get the opportunity to

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.040
<v Speaker 1>get better at running routes. He's clearly the most talented

0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>receiver that they had. I mean, this just doesn't add

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>up well unless they needed the money. Do you feel

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>that they were aware though, with the coaching spot, as

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>far as you know, the whole teaching and running routes.

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, do you do you feel that the ones

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>above were aware that maybe the coach was in the

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>right fit. Yeah, and just the coach, you're not the player.

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:06.080
<v Speaker 1>But I think we're making an assumption there that the

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>primary reason they got rid of him was because of

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>his route running. No, not the primary reason, because because

0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I think my belief is that there were more, There

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 1>were bigger reasons that had more to do with how

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>he handled himself with his teammates, how he handled himself

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>just in the in meeting rooms, all that stuff. I mean,

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>watch watch that documentary. It to me, it crystallized all

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the reasons why the Cowboys are probably ready to say it,

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:33.120
<v Speaker 1>we're going to just move on. Do you think Sanders

0:29:33.120 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>has you think what Dion Sanders is saying about they

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>should resign him. You, Mike said the same thing yesterday,

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>michael Vin, get out of here. It's not happen. That

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>bridge is smoldering in the river. It is not happening.

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>And I agree with your point though too, And basically,

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna piggyback off what you just said, and

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested to see how this works out. And you know,

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the receivers are happy, you know, al Alan Hearns and

0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>guys like tavon Os and have said the same thing,

0:30:00.920 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>like they love kind of being taught the fundamentals. It's refreshing.

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like harkens back to high school. What blah blah

0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. It all sounds really good right now,

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 1>but clearly like this position and this problem spot has

0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>been chosen as like the scapegoat. I mean, injuries and

0:30:17.120 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>suspensions played a part last year too, but like this

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:21.960
<v Speaker 1>is the thing where they're just like this was bad

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and now it will be good and we'll see, like

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 1>we'll see if it actually works out the way that

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:30.680
<v Speaker 1>they are talking like it should, because they've made a

0:30:30.680 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of they did big changes based on this problem.

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>And if it doesn't get better, then then who you

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:39.440
<v Speaker 1>point And I've said this all along. I said when

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>they cut Dez is that they did not get better

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>at receiver right now. They're not better right now at receiver.

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 1>They might be better as far as in the inside

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 1>the locker room. It might be better for Dak. I'm

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 1>not really sure, but I just know talent wise, they're

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.640
<v Speaker 1>not better, which is okay if you can use contract

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 1>and all that to get better in another area. So

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>that still to me after about two months, it's still

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>somewhat of a puzzling decision to cut Dez to me, Yeah,

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>but that's okay. I mean, there's probably more to it

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>than whatever the all or Nothing documentary showed. I mean,

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>there's more than that. But I just think right now,

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>if he's such a great teacher, then I think they

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>should have let Des get an opportunity to be taught

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 1>like that, and that if they're not going to do

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>anything else with the money, if you want to go

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 1>trade for a guy that's somewhere, you know, that's the

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>squirrel they're not playing in another team, then maybe you

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>can do that. And I'm all about getting that money.

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing to remember about that, though that

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to happen now. That could be in preparation

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>for next year, because you can't carry money over, right,

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>and so this could be preparation for next year when

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 1>said player could be a free agent, and then you

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about giving up a pick in

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>all services. Why, I just I don't I love y'all.

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I just I know you do every day when I

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>walk down the stairs to come in this studio, i'

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>might know what we're talking. No, I'm just like, when's

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen? Like when where's the opening? Hey? I mean

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 1>he didn't report to mandatory mane. So it is a

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.960
<v Speaker 1>pertinent talking point. Whether it's definitely a conversation worth happening,

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 1>whether I hate it or not, it's worth talking about.

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 1>He started it, Hu, he started it. I didn't say

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>any did We started it when he walked in the

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys locker? Yeah, I didn't. You don't walk to the

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>locker room. You can't get there by walking. He had

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to run, right, He had to run over there and

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>get and get Jason Garrett. He did. He started it

0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and and and nothing has changed since then, and any

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>better at safety, he hasn't. He's not any happier where

0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>he is up there. So I'm just saying that there's

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>it's still floating out there. I know, I like, I

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>know that doesn't Like I'm trying to think of an analogy,

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>and nothing's coming to my mind. You wanted to happen

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>just so I'll shut the front door at this point. Yes,

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>it gared me so bad right there, Like we're gonna

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>have a parade at radio. You can say, well, you

0:32:53.200 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>can't know you can't. Yeah, I'm very appropriate. Yeah, at

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>this point, I don't. I don't even care about what

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>we don't do the breaks. That's why now really we'll

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>be talked about. You know, we can't talk about the breaks?

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Can I throw one other thing? I think this is

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>also one thing that this that this quote points out

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>to me is I think a lot of this is

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>a reflection of the unintended consequences of the CBA when

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>they took away time. Then guys are spending I'm just saying, though,

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.320
<v Speaker 1>the time that guys spend on the field has been

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 1>diminished significantly, and it's left teams and coaches in situations

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 1>where something had to be cut. And I think in

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of ways, technique is what has been cut.

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I think if you look at preseason football in the

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>NFL and really the first few weeks of the NFL,

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of bad football. There's a lot of mistackles,

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of just stuff that to me, are

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 1>all about the basics and the fundamentals. And I don't

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>think coaches um have as much time to be able

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 1>to really focus on those things because now the amount

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>of time they can actually spend with the players in

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the office season is diminished. By the time they get

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:00.719
<v Speaker 1>to training camp. It's not time for fundamentals. You're stalling offenses.

0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>You're installing defenses. There is getting your team ready to

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 1>play for an upcoming season. There is nothing like the

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>NFL in the sense of like the better you get

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 1>at it, the less likely you are to actually practice

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:14.239
<v Speaker 1>or like be good at it. You know, Like we're

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 1>just talking, like in order to get Tyrn Smith through

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>his career, maybe he will only practice like twenty five

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:21.879
<v Speaker 1>percent of the time for the rest of the time

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>he's playing. Like that's insane, you know what I mean.

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Like and baseball teams and basketball teams like not only

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.880
<v Speaker 1>do they play every day during their season, but in basketball,

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>like they'll have two hour practices, and baseball you get

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 1>to the park and take BP and shag balls every day,

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.640
<v Speaker 1>and then like in the NFL, you have I mean,

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:42.080
<v Speaker 1>training camp practices are halfhearted compared to what they used

0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 1>to be, and practices during the season are basically just

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 1>walk throughs. It's it's crazy we're talking about the game,

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:50.960
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about practice. Man. Yeah, I think I think

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>this comes back to the two most annoying words of

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>this offseason Earl Thomas. Sorry, yeah, yeah right. More than that,

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 1>more more annoying than that, it's probably the term Dak friendly.

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>And I think this is this is what another example

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.720
<v Speaker 1>of that is is that I think the Cowboys believe

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>that Dak needs these guys to be exactly where they

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>need to be. And there's no freelancing, there's no out

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 1>athleting anybody else. You need to run the route correctly,

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>get open to the spot so our quarterback can can

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.320
<v Speaker 1>give him the football. Yeah, and that he's still learning

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>as well, so help him be as good as he

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 1>can be. Um. And I think that's that's where. Get

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>a good teacher in here, get good route runners in here,

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and let this offense kind of flow like it should.

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 1>And for the record, I think it's a good strategy.

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it plays to Dak's strengths. It plays to

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:39.239
<v Speaker 1>the strength of this team, which is running the ball. U.

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:41.799
<v Speaker 1>Having said that, I'll going back to what I said

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>a minute ago, Like if it doesn't work, then that's

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.439
<v Speaker 1>gonna create some tough conversations because why I mean, because

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>all offseason it's all been about how like this is

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:52.839
<v Speaker 1>the way to go. So if it doesn't work, then

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>who we blame the next, right, other than the head

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>coach right to the top, right the head coach on

0:35:58.280 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback? Yeah, I mean, but it goes right to

0:35:59.920 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the top at that point, like you have everything that

0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 1>you need. You you kind of created the thing and

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the image that you think it needs to be. And

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:07.960
<v Speaker 1>if it doesn't work in you have to be If

0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:10.399
<v Speaker 1>this team doesn't do well and they and they don't

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 1>make the playoffs, we think we know what that means

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:14.359
<v Speaker 1>for the coaching staff or at least at the top.

0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 1>And we also think that, um, you know, if it

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't go well because of the quarterback, then I'm sure

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>that the high draft picks probably gonna I mean, I

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 1>think quarterback will be in play, I really do. I mean,

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of gonna look really weird around town because

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:30.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of billboards, there's a lot of trucks.

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:34.359
<v Speaker 1>So those two want to change, they will. Yeah, We've

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:36.400
<v Speaker 1>seen that happen because guess what we're changing a lot

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 1>of them to have eighty two on them as well. Right,

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that's the nature of the NFL. You have to change things, though,

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:44.800
<v Speaker 1>But I still see act me Brick commercials with Troy Aikman.

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I understand that. All I'm saying, though, is there's a

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff that around here that we've learned over

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 1>the years. You have to be flexible enough to change

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 1>quickly because one day a player might be here. The

0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.319
<v Speaker 1>next week he may be gone before I just get

0:36:56.480 --> 0:36:58.480
<v Speaker 1>killed on Twitter. I don't think that's going to happen.

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I think the quarterback that they have right now, it's

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>going to be the quarterback for this team for the

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>next six seven years. I really think that, if not longer.

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I say, I'm I think he's the guy. For the record,

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 1>I think all this stuff is gonna work. I really

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 1>do love the direction you're going with. I didn't say that,

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:17.399
<v Speaker 1>Come on, I didn't say that. Yeah, and I we'll

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>see if it plays playoffs. But when you when you

0:37:21.040 --> 0:37:22.840
<v Speaker 1>have the kind of offensive line that the Cowboys have

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>put together, and you have the kind of running back

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.839
<v Speaker 1>that the Cowboys have, I think that you can take

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the strategy that they're taking a wide receiver and if

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.520
<v Speaker 1>it works. The beauty of it is now they can

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>just plug and play with those players. They can take

0:37:35.120 --> 0:37:37.800
<v Speaker 1>that money and invest it in other positions, in my opinion,

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 1>like your offensive line, your defensive line. There's a lot

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 1>of things. I was having this discussion with somebody the

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 1>other day. There are some a lot of question marks

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>around this team. But if the question marks fall on

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the side of the Cowboys, this is one of those

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:51.439
<v Speaker 1>years you could have a team that goes all the way.

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 1>You could also have a team that really falls apart

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 1>right because there's so many question marks. The linebacker is

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.879
<v Speaker 1>a good example of that. Like, if everything works out,

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Shawn Lee's healthy, if Jaylen Smith is back to what

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 1>he was before the injury or somewhere close, If Vanderesh

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 1>plays pretty good and those two guys are doing their thing, like,

0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:13.439
<v Speaker 1>your linebackers could be extremely good, some of the best

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 1>in the league, and that will make your defense that

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:18.640
<v Speaker 1>much better. But if Sean Lee's hurt, if Jalen Smith

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 1>isn't what they expect him to be, if Vanderesh looks

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>like a rookie, your linebacking corps could be really really

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:27.320
<v Speaker 1>bad and your defense would probably be really really bad.

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>And that's my point, like, there is a big gap

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:33.239
<v Speaker 1>between what this team can be on either side. Yeah,

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you just gotta make sure that your backup plan works,

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 1>that you do have a backup plan, and that we

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 1>don't see what happened last year when Tyren Smith went out,

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:44.479
<v Speaker 1>that you put a guy that I mean, you knew

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 1>this could happen. You knew Tyrn could go out at

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.839
<v Speaker 1>any given time, and your backup plan didn't work, and

0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 1>you didn't focus on making your backup work. So those

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 1>are the things that I'm looking at moving forward. Is Okay,

0:38:56.719 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>what's your backup plan? Who's your backup guy? Is he

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna be? Like? Is he gonna get the job done

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>when you need him to get it done? Because we

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of the guys they have are now.

0:39:06.120 --> 0:39:08.800
<v Speaker 1>They're great when they're healthy and when they're on the field,

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 1>we know what they could do and it could be awesome.

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>But if it goes down, which we've seen can happen,

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen? They have a good backup. All right,

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 1>let's take our final break, will come back. I'll have

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>some of those bigger picture closing questions here that I

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:24.080
<v Speaker 1>want you guys to answer, We'll get everybody ready for

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0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:42.200
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0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:44.239
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0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 1>That's okay. Well no, if you don't know the backstory.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week, when Amber was was doing my job, she

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<v Speaker 1>decided she was going to throw it at me at

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<v Speaker 1>the last minute, like, hey, here you go, you're turning

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<v Speaker 1>to do the read. So I just gave it back

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:58.359
<v Speaker 1>to her, so so good. All right, So we're rolling

0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 1>through this thing. This is again our final show before

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<v Speaker 1>we take a little break here for you the guys

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<v Speaker 1>out there, And I just want to make a note

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>real quick for you guys out there listening. I know

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:10.359
<v Speaker 1>we've made some changes to the site and we've gotten

0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten some messages from you guys on some issues

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 1>that were happening with some of the podcasts and not

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<v Speaker 1>being able to find them. Just know we're aware of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're working on the issues with the league to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure we get all this lined out. I promise you

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<v Speaker 1>by the time we get the training camp, when we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing these shows every day, that you guys will have

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<v Speaker 1>it at this time of the year and so that

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<v Speaker 1>we do have a little bit of time to get this.

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<v Speaker 1>We also say update your Google Chrome if that's the issue,

0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of people that are having issues with

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<v Speaker 1>the website and what it looks like if it's on

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<v Speaker 1>Google Chrome, that and an older version of the older

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<v Speaker 1>version of it that it needs to be updated. I

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 1>thot that was an issue for you. That's an issue

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<v Speaker 1>as far as how it looks. But yeah, from a

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>standpoint the podcast and some of those not flowing in

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and then flowing into iTunes. We're working with both the

0:43:57.040 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>league and iTunes on that, so just know we're working

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 1>on all that. We're appreciate you guys giving us the feedback.

0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:03.919
<v Speaker 1>Keep giving me feedback, letting me know if you see

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>things that aren't quite working right, and well, I promise

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:07.799
<v Speaker 1>you'll have it worked out by the time we get

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 1>to camp. And this is uh, this is Derek improving

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<v Speaker 1>on some things that we've done in the past too,

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:16.239
<v Speaker 1>because there's been several times where we've opened training camp

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>with the brand new site and then the kinks like

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:21.439
<v Speaker 1>that need to be ironed out. And now the first

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:23.799
<v Speaker 1>press conference of training camp and it's not looking That's

0:44:23.800 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 1>why you do this in mid June like this, you

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:29.800
<v Speaker 1>learn from your less good. Yeah, so yeah, we'll definitely,

0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 1>we'll definitely get all this stuff worked out. Just keep

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>giving us feedback and be patient with us. We'll have

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.399
<v Speaker 1>it ready by the time we get to camp. All right, Um,

0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:38.839
<v Speaker 1>so let's get to our final segment here. We got

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 1>some questions. I got three questions for you guys, And

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the point of these questions is more to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>give people a big picture look at the offseason, the

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 1>highs and lows, and then kind of what that means.

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 1>So I want you to answer the question, but I

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 1>really am expecting that we can get into more of

0:44:53.360 --> 0:44:56.359
<v Speaker 1>a conversation about some of these things to just give

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:59.759
<v Speaker 1>people a good you know, tie this this nice bow

0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 1>with the top of this thing at the top of

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.320
<v Speaker 1>this offseason so everybody can get a good idea of

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 1>what happened. So let's start first with what has been

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the biggest loss for the Cowboys. And I have four

0:45:09.040 --> 0:45:14.720
<v Speaker 1>names here, Des Bryant, Jason Witten, Anthony Hitchins, Orlando Scandrick.

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:16.520
<v Speaker 1>There have been two guys that lost that left in

0:45:16.600 --> 0:45:20.200
<v Speaker 1>free agency, one that was cut and them I'm sorry

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:23.400
<v Speaker 1>with Scandrid cut. Yeah though, two cut, one loss of

0:45:23.480 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 1>free agency and then one retired. What has been the

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:28.919
<v Speaker 1>biggest loss or what player has been the biggest loss

0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:33.080
<v Speaker 1>for the Cowboys? Mine would be Anthony Hitchins. Anthony Hitchins.

0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I would say so because right now, I mean, I

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>don't feel one hundred percent confident with the linebackers, and

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 1>we all knew we could trust Anthony Hitchins to be

0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 1>there into filling that role as a leader on the field.

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:48.279
<v Speaker 1>So when shan Lee went down, I mean, it was

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 1>never great, but there's a guy you could count on

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:54.160
<v Speaker 1>for sure, So that would be mine in and as

0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:59.799
<v Speaker 1>far as the dus Bryan Tham, I'm still I think

0:45:59.800 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>it was a good move at the time. We'll see

0:46:03.000 --> 0:46:05.279
<v Speaker 1>what it means in the future, but at the time,

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that was the decision I would have wanted

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.720
<v Speaker 1>to happen, all right, in the grand scheme of things,

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:15.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't have a problem that Dees isn't here,

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:18.359
<v Speaker 1>but I still think that's the biggest loss. I mean,

0:46:18.560 --> 0:46:22.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like franchise leader and receiving touchdowns, and

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 1>he's you know, he hasn't looked like he used to,

0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 1>but he I mean, he can still be a dynamic threat.

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:30.600
<v Speaker 1>And he easily is the most proven receiver here. So,

0:46:31.520 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 1>like I said, it sounds good on paper, but that's

0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:35.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's still something they got to learn to

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.439
<v Speaker 1>live without. I mean, all four of those are really

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 1>up for debate because you know, a linebacker, they had

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:45.399
<v Speaker 1>to go get a first round pick because I think

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 1>because of that, I don't think they drafted vandirect if

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 1>they don't, if they resigned Hitchens at cornerback, I mean,

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:54.040
<v Speaker 1>they don't have any veterans there, you know. And so

0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I know we talk about Scandrick based off his attitude

0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:00.319
<v Speaker 1>and all that stuff. It's like he's fine, you know,

0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:02.960
<v Speaker 1>go on to Washington whatever. But I mean they don't

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 1>have any experience there at that position. So that's a

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:10.840
<v Speaker 1>tough question. I mean, you can say anything you want, really,

0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the first time we see signs of trouble

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 1>at training camp, then you can be like that was

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:17.320
<v Speaker 1>the tough move. I mean, that's a really good question.

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:18.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you have a great answer. Here

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:20.920
<v Speaker 1>in early June. Yeah, I'm a I'm a little bit

0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:24.480
<v Speaker 1>surprised none of you guys mentioned Jason Whitney. And I

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 1>think it's more from a consistency standpoint that I would

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:31.800
<v Speaker 1>worry that he's a bigger loss because I don't personally

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like they are, and I shouldn't say it like that,

0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:36.839
<v Speaker 1>but I think there are ways for them to not

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 1>miss him as much as far as just play. I

0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 1>think hopefully this means that they'll have four wide receivers

0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 1>on the field more frequently. Hopefully this means that they

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:48.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe get they maybe get a little bit more athletic

0:47:48.560 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 1>at the tight end position. I don't think they have

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 1>a tight end on the squad right now who is

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.759
<v Speaker 1>more well rounded than Jason. But I think if they're

0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:57.880
<v Speaker 1>smart and they know how to put people in right positions,

0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 1>they can probably make up for most of that. So

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 1>that all being said, though, I'm still a little bit

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:04.839
<v Speaker 1>surprised that nobody mentioned you. I didn't say his name

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:08.359
<v Speaker 1>just because we knew he was close to his ending.

0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:10.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, we knew it was approaching, and it wasn't

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:13.719
<v Speaker 1>like he was cut or sent to another team. He's

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 1>not playing, he's not playing anymore. So that was a

0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 1>different perspective and point of view. But figure question, Honestly,

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:24.680
<v Speaker 1>that was probably the biggest surprise loss of the offseason.

0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I know when we entered the office, Yeah, you tell

0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 1>me these four, which one is it is still gonna

0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 1>be here? Yeah, wouldn't would have been when I'd be like,

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:32.920
<v Speaker 1>of course weldn't still. No, it was definitely a surprise,

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and I am choosing to believe in June. Maybe I'll

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:39.720
<v Speaker 1>be wrong, but I want to believe that Witten leaving

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 1>the team means that this is as different as the

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:44.719
<v Speaker 1>offense will look as it has in a while, Like

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:48.480
<v Speaker 1>more ten personnel, you know, running backs getting the ball

0:48:48.520 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 1>more often, Tavon Austin having a role like that all

0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:53.960
<v Speaker 1>intrigues me. And if they do it as well as

0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I think they can, then I think it'll offset that

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 1>loss pretty well. All right, let's go to the next question.

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Who was the greatest addition? Alan Hearns, Cameron Fleming, Tavon

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Austin or jahad Ward. Who was the second one? Uh?

0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Cameron Fleming offensive lineman, the tackle we talked about from

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:15.440
<v Speaker 1>New England. I think I have to say him. I

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 1>want to say Tavon Austin. I've talked enough about how

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I feel about that, but he I think that's huge

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>a sp I mean not one hundred percent confident in

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Tyrn Smith and so I mean, well, that could pay

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:29.879
<v Speaker 1>big dividends if they need him. It was the first

0:49:29.920 --> 0:49:35.799
<v Speaker 1>guy um Alan hearns, hearns another good good question. I mean,

0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:39.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean especially Jahad word because you know all this

0:49:39.280 --> 0:49:42.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff we talked about with Um, with David Irvingham, he

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:44.840
<v Speaker 1>and Malik getting hurt. I mean, he could come in

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and really be a difference maker. Um, I think I

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:51.719
<v Speaker 1>would go with I guess I'll go with Tavon, But

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we gotta, we gotta see if that if

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 1>Lenahan and this offense is really gonna use him that way,

0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:59.000
<v Speaker 1>if they use him like it sounds like it and

0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>all all his team think he's the fastest player on

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:04.319
<v Speaker 1>the team, then they need to use that. You use

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:07.320
<v Speaker 1>that and put the ball in his hands, I would say, flaming.

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was a guy that when it happened,

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 1>it legitimately, if that's the right word. I felt excitement

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:18.360
<v Speaker 1>for it, just because it's a guy that in a

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.440
<v Speaker 1>position in a need, a position, a guy that has experienced,

0:50:21.480 --> 0:50:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that has been in the Super Bowl. You know, someone

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:27.359
<v Speaker 1>that you could rely on in a way. Now as

0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>far as Tavon, yeah, he a guy that everyone's excited

0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:33.919
<v Speaker 1>about and there was a lot of hype and their

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 1>speed there and ability and blah blah blah, but we

0:50:37.520 --> 0:50:39.799
<v Speaker 1>still don't know how he's going to be utilized. So

0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:42.800
<v Speaker 1>as of need and position, I would go with flaming.

0:50:42.880 --> 0:50:44.799
<v Speaker 1>All right, So if I add an additional option there

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:49.320
<v Speaker 1>of Chris Richard, does that change your opinion on that answer? Coaching?

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:56.359
<v Speaker 1>That's tough? Not yet, yep. I mean he sounds sounds good,

0:50:56.480 --> 0:50:59.560
<v Speaker 1>sounds the part. But first, you know, drive of the

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.040
<v Speaker 1>game in Carolina, we see a forty five yard pass

0:51:02.080 --> 0:51:05.720
<v Speaker 1>interference penalty on Jordan Lewis because his head's not turned

0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:07.920
<v Speaker 1>around right then, I mean it doesn't really matter. I

0:51:07.960 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 1>mean you can say you can make that case for everybody,

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:13.200
<v Speaker 1>not to mention. I mean, Christopher Shard ain't stepping in

0:51:13.239 --> 0:51:15.839
<v Speaker 1>for Tyren Smith if he can't play, like ultimately, that's

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 1>what worries me. So okay, all right, final question. You

0:51:19.040 --> 0:51:21.720
<v Speaker 1>imagine a coach and I got players I'm going in guys,

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:26.719
<v Speaker 1>I means it's true, he wears pretty impressive if a

0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:29.560
<v Speaker 1>coach just jumped out there and just ran on the

0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 1>film and played in twenty fifteen when Matt Castle was

0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>out there and weedon, I mean, I'm not sure that

0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Garrett couldn't just take the headset off and go out there.

0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Very very valid point. All right, Final question, which rookie

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:46.000
<v Speaker 1>will have the biggest impact in twenty eighteen Layton Vanderesh,

0:51:46.080 --> 0:51:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams, Mike Michael Gallup or Daurance Armstrong. Feel free

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:52.359
<v Speaker 1>to throw in another rookie if you choose, so which

0:51:52.400 --> 0:51:54.320
<v Speaker 1>one will have the biggest impact in two thousand and eighteen?

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Like White? Like White? I've been saying Connor since he

0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 1>was drafted. I'm gonna stick with that and then change

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 1>after that conversation last night. No, okay, I mean you know,

0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:05.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't expect him to be an all pro. I

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:08.200
<v Speaker 1>just expect him to be good. And I mean if

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:11.080
<v Speaker 1>he's not with the guys around him and where he

0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:14.560
<v Speaker 1>was drafted, that's strange to me. And all again, he's

0:52:14.600 --> 0:52:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the only rookie that I expect to play one hundred

0:52:16.560 --> 0:52:20.600
<v Speaker 1>percent of the snaps so to finish. Ye, that's if

0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:24.000
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have the biggest impact. Then that's troublesome. Even

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 1>even as a rookie, even if he's not an all

0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:29.080
<v Speaker 1>pro right away like Zach, he's still I think he

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:31.600
<v Speaker 1>needs he will make an impact. I mean, he has

0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 1>to be the one that makes the biggest impact just

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:37.960
<v Speaker 1>because he's no, he's not rotating around with other guys,

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:40.600
<v Speaker 1>so he's getting more time of practice and more time

0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:43.319
<v Speaker 1>of being on the field as opposed to these other

0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:46.200
<v Speaker 1>guys that keep being rotated around and don't have as

0:52:46.280 --> 0:52:49.840
<v Speaker 1>much time on the field. So, and I'm intrigued with Layton.

0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:51.879
<v Speaker 1>We'll take him, take him out of the equation of him.

0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:53.680
<v Speaker 1>If we think he's gonna start with about the other guys,

0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:56.479
<v Speaker 1>then of those other things, I go with Armstrong. Really, yeah,

0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 1>I do. I think Armstrong. Now he's gonna have to

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 1>withstand the intense. You know, he's gonna be Marinelli's whipping me. Yeah,

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:09.759
<v Speaker 1>he's just the flurry of it. But if he can

0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:12.880
<v Speaker 1>get through, if he cannot be Ryan Russell right, and

0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:15.560
<v Speaker 1>he can, he can overcome that, and he can learn

0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:17.520
<v Speaker 1>from this. I think he's going to be the guy

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:19.319
<v Speaker 1>that comes in on third down and gets just a

0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:22.359
<v Speaker 1>sneaky six or seven sacks this year, and which that

0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 1>would be great more than the thirty seven catches Gallops

0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:28.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna give you. Well, you know, I'm glad. I'm glad

0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:31.839
<v Speaker 1>you said that. This conversation off the air that we've

0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:36.360
<v Speaker 1>had this week, this is my own personal bias. I

0:53:36.400 --> 0:53:39.200
<v Speaker 1>do not expect Michael Gallop to crack the starting three,

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:43.040
<v Speaker 1>barring injury. I just I don't whether that's some of

0:53:43.080 --> 0:53:44.879
<v Speaker 1>who you're starting three would be. I would assume it's

0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:47.359
<v Speaker 1>Hearn's Beasley in Terrence when it's all said and done.

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:49.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think those are the guys that get

0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:51.640
<v Speaker 1>the majority of it. But I've talked to people here

0:53:51.640 --> 0:53:53.960
<v Speaker 1>who know more than I do who They're like, Oh,

0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:55.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if it's not week one, it'll be by

0:53:55.760 --> 0:53:58.439
<v Speaker 1>week four, Gallops one of the starting three. Which if

0:53:58.440 --> 0:54:00.880
<v Speaker 1>that's the case, then I'm not given this kid enough credit.

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:03.560
<v Speaker 1>And it's hard to really judge that based on mini camp.

0:54:03.600 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 1>But that's something to watch at training camp. I mean,

0:54:06.200 --> 0:54:08.319
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna you're gonna see the one on ones. You're

0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:10.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna see you know, they do four or five team

0:54:10.840 --> 0:54:12.879
<v Speaker 1>periods at a time, Like he's gonna have a chance

0:54:12.960 --> 0:54:15.800
<v Speaker 1>to do it and if that's true, then like I'm

0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:18.120
<v Speaker 1>not giving him enough credit right now, because if it's

0:54:18.160 --> 0:54:20.360
<v Speaker 1>not Connor, then my answer would be vander Esh because

0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean him and Jalen are both going to play

0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:24.759
<v Speaker 1>a ton of snaps, and I think he's gonna be

0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:27.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty good. So I'm honestly starting to think the same

0:54:27.040 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 1>thing on Gallup. Like, I just think that when you

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:31.319
<v Speaker 1>look at the wide receiver position, I don't think there's

0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:33.719
<v Speaker 1>a dominant player there right now. I don't think these

0:54:33.800 --> 0:54:36.440
<v Speaker 1>veterans what we've seen of I don't think that the

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:38.760
<v Speaker 1>guys that we that the Cowboys have, other than maybe

0:54:38.800 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Cole who's had some moments of success, I think for

0:54:43.000 --> 0:54:44.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, for the rest of those guys, I think

0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:46.920
<v Speaker 1>when you look at him, I think they're gonna continue

0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to be what they've been. And I think Michael Gallup

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:53.799
<v Speaker 1>poses an interesting difference. I think he probably is a

0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:57.279
<v Speaker 1>better route runner, it's probably quicker, and I think that

0:54:57.320 --> 0:54:59.239
<v Speaker 1>they're going to probably be able to utilize him in

0:54:59.239 --> 0:55:01.319
<v Speaker 1>ways that maybe they I can't get from the other guys.

0:55:01.520 --> 0:55:06.239
<v Speaker 1>Um I'll say just complete it's total snaps from the

0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 1>rookie class. I think first will be Connor Williams. The

0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:12.320
<v Speaker 1>second will be Layton vanderesh Th. Total snaps will be

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Chris Covington. That's why I really yep, damn total snaps,

0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:20.720
<v Speaker 1>special teams all the way, every position on special teams

0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:23.600
<v Speaker 1>active every game. That's my prediction. Can I predict something

0:55:23.680 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 1>on that. I actually don't think Layton van dersh is

0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:28.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna have as many snaps as you think. The reason

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 1>why I'm really starting and yeah, I understand that, I

0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:37.799
<v Speaker 1>understand that, Pats. I just I think that I'm very

0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:40.640
<v Speaker 1>optimistic about what he can be this year. And if

0:55:40.640 --> 0:55:42.920
<v Speaker 1>he can be what a lot of people think he

0:55:42.960 --> 0:55:45.440
<v Speaker 1>can be this year, then he and Sean are going

0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:48.440
<v Speaker 1>to be out there most of the time. I've been

0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 1>here too long. I know you've been here too long.

0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:53.960
<v Speaker 1>I know that you know who the owner is and

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:56.560
<v Speaker 1>the general manager. You know that the first round pick

0:55:56.600 --> 0:55:58.600
<v Speaker 1>gets scrutinized if he's not on the field. He will

0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:01.160
<v Speaker 1>be on the field. But let me see this. He

0:56:01.280 --> 0:56:04.080
<v Speaker 1>also Jalen is one of his guys. That's a that's

0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a pet, that's a pet project for Jerry, right, yea,

0:56:06.719 --> 0:56:09.360
<v Speaker 1>So how do you make that distinction like he's a

0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:11.719
<v Speaker 1>second round pick that they fought highly. They thought he

0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:14.400
<v Speaker 1>was the first round pick. So I'm I'm with it.

0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I've been beating this into the ground, but I believe it.

0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Like you're helping Jayalen be the best version of himself

0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 1>by not worrying about that anyway. Like I mean, vander

0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:27.319
<v Speaker 1>Esh's strength is supposedly his ability and coverage. Let him

0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:30.160
<v Speaker 1>worry about that. I want Jalen Smith moving toward the

0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:34.840
<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage. Sam Nickel, pass rusher, go get the quarterback.

0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Do those types you're saying Nickell, keep three linebackers on

0:56:38.120 --> 0:56:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the field and have him as a You could if

0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to know BA you really don't go to

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Nickel bass like bass Sam, and then I mean you

0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:50.040
<v Speaker 1>could maybe do that. I don't know. I think is

0:56:50.080 --> 0:56:52.200
<v Speaker 1>that good of a coverage guy, then maybe you could,

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:54.839
<v Speaker 1>especially the eleven person, though I think it's way more.

0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, no, I don't think you would play three

0:56:57.040 --> 0:57:00.120
<v Speaker 1>linebackers and Nickel. I think you would play Layton in

0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:03.919
<v Speaker 1>most situations and played Jalen sometimes when it's a run

0:57:04.000 --> 0:57:07.520
<v Speaker 1>situation or something, or or a pass rush situation something

0:57:07.560 --> 0:57:11.120
<v Speaker 1>like that. I just I think Jalen's better off playing

0:57:11.280 --> 0:57:13.919
<v Speaker 1>a smaller number of snaps that allow him to use

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:17.680
<v Speaker 1>his athleticism moving forward to make plays instead of just

0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:19.880
<v Speaker 1>being like, hey, you're the mic, you got to do

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:22.200
<v Speaker 1>everything the mic does. I think that's how you wind

0:57:22.240 --> 0:57:25.520
<v Speaker 1>up exposing him, right, So well we'll see though, that's

0:57:25.520 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 1>what training came from. Also, I guess the other thing

0:57:27.720 --> 0:57:29.920
<v Speaker 1>when I start thinking about it from Vanderesh to standpoint

0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:32.040
<v Speaker 1>is that Vanderesh is a guy that hasn't had a

0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:34.200
<v Speaker 1>ton of experience. I mean, he is a still a

0:57:34.280 --> 0:57:37.440
<v Speaker 1>young player. Um he's he's a guy who had basically

0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:40.040
<v Speaker 1>one year of real production in college. So he may

0:57:40.040 --> 0:57:42.760
<v Speaker 1>not be ready for the prime time just yet. And

0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:47.120
<v Speaker 1>I think I hope not, because because when you draft,

0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:49.560
<v Speaker 1>when you draft the guy in nineteen, you're saying that

0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:52.520
<v Speaker 1>he is that's a that's that's a that's not what

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear about a guy that was drafted nineteenth,

0:57:55.040 --> 0:57:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Like he needs to be used to be ready. All right,

0:57:56.880 --> 0:58:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Well we will see if not from Maryland in here Jay, Yeah,

0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:05.960
<v Speaker 1>you only need to see him in the first game

0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:08.720
<v Speaker 1>of the year. But to that that's true. To that point,

0:58:08.760 --> 0:58:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Jalen, everything they've put into him, he's thirty

0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:15.520
<v Speaker 1>fourth overall pick. He's not that right, which just let

0:58:15.520 --> 0:58:18.160
<v Speaker 1>them let the best man win, Like if Jalen's really

0:58:18.200 --> 0:58:20.400
<v Speaker 1>if Jalen's ready to be the kid from Notre Dame,

0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:23.040
<v Speaker 1>then nobody's gonna be that upset if Layton vander esh

0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:26.280
<v Speaker 1>is limited on snap and but for the injury, he's

0:58:26.320 --> 0:58:28.560
<v Speaker 1>a well better he's a much better prospect. And I

0:58:28.600 --> 0:58:31.480
<v Speaker 1>know you can't always just completely divide those two, but

0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:34.320
<v Speaker 1>all I'm saying is he was a much better prospect

0:58:34.360 --> 0:58:37.640
<v Speaker 1>before that injury than Layton vander will work itself out.

0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:40.440
<v Speaker 1>You've been going to have a linebacker controversy, like somebody

0:58:40.480 --> 0:58:44.760
<v Speaker 1>will get like, it'll work itself out. They're all gonna play.

0:58:44.760 --> 0:58:48.160
<v Speaker 1>You've been here too long to just hop so fullheartedly

0:58:48.200 --> 0:58:49.880
<v Speaker 1>onto a hype train like that. Well you know was

0:58:50.160 --> 0:58:52.720
<v Speaker 1>one for you, because I do. I do like to

0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:54.800
<v Speaker 1>have like these kinds of things we can ride throughout

0:58:54.840 --> 0:58:56.920
<v Speaker 1>training camp but throughout the season. So put me in

0:58:56.960 --> 0:58:59.280
<v Speaker 1>the camp of Jalen Smith's gonna have a great season

0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:03.240
<v Speaker 1>the ball, Pro Bowl. Get it out there, come on,

0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:08.720
<v Speaker 1>do it yes, Oh, okay, Pro Bowl season for Jaln Smith.

0:59:09.080 --> 0:59:11.680
<v Speaker 1>And so we can watch this the whole season and

0:59:11.800 --> 0:59:13.560
<v Speaker 1>just know that's where I am. That all right, I'm

0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:18.240
<v Speaker 1>all on to answer family few. Yeah, problems will get

0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:19.880
<v Speaker 1>some break. Let's go house the time off for a

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:22.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit. We appreciate you guys rolling with us this

0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:24.320
<v Speaker 1>whole offseason. We're gonna take a few weeks here to

0:59:24.360 --> 0:59:26.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of catch our breaths. We'll be back on the

0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:29.160
<v Speaker 1>air July twenty fifth. July twenty fourth, we'll head to

0:59:29.200 --> 0:59:31.040
<v Speaker 1>training camp. From twenty fifth we start up our shows.

0:59:31.040 --> 0:59:34.040
<v Speaker 1>We'll be doing daily shows from training camp and Oxnard, California.

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<v Speaker 1>So till then. For Nick Eatman, David Hellman, Amber Garcia,

0:59:37.080 --> 0:59:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I am Derek Eatleton. This has been The Break live

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