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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, June thirteenth, twenty eighteen, Season fourteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number twelve. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: I'm Derek Eagles and I'm back hosting this thing. Just

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Speaker 1: get back. We're gonna, yeah, We're gonna. We're gonna try

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Speaker 1: which Dave desperately needs right now. We're gonna take a

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Speaker 1: into training camp and startup shows on July twenty fifth.

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Speaker 1: We will leave on July twenty four, pool star shows

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Speaker 1: on the twenty fifth. How's every about doing this morning?

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm great for your break. Just everything

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for a little downtime, but I'm excited for

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Speaker 1: Somebody had the audacity in the locker room. I won't

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Speaker 1: lot of the media that covers the Cowboys, they do

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Speaker 1: like one of the most annoying months of the year

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Speaker 1: I'm ready talking, man, get into this. Did you do

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Speaker 1: some calistitics get warmed up here? No, I'm I'm warm.

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Speaker 1: You're like awkward, but okay. Like the dog that doesn't

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Speaker 1: They might be better. Maybe you just want to do

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Speaker 1: it just weok, Yeah, actually let's do that. Actually, what

427
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Speaker 1: we were talking about cares about hockey. You're not drawing

428
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Speaker 1: me off sides? Yeah you almost did. You're not gonna

429
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Speaker 1: draw me. Do you know what off size is in hockey?

430
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Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you what I mean. I know it's

431
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Speaker 1: a penalty. I don't know what justifies offsides? Is it?

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Speaker 1: When you get past the blue line? You can't go

433
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Speaker 1: he passed, then I can't do it. He can't go

434
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Speaker 1: pass the line before the puck passed goes in first line,

435
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 1: the blue line, of the red line, the blue line.

436
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm on it. Derek's game, Game five of

437
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup Finals was the first hockey I watched

438
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Speaker 1: this year. I didn't even watch that. One of the

439
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,360
Speaker 1: most hockey I watched is Alex Ovechkin like going crazy

440
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 1: for the last week. I don't know most hockey watch.

441
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 1: Look what you love it? Actually, look what you did. Nick.

442
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Speaker 1: Now we're like, we're so far in the weeds. Last

443
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Speaker 1: show of the year and we last one, last show

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Speaker 1: of the year. Yeah, last show for a month. Oh well,

445
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Speaker 1: all right, let's get back to it. Actually, I think

446
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Speaker 1: we should go into that topic a little bit. It

447
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: might kill one of our other segments. But um, we

448
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,719
Speaker 1: started talking a little about Connor Williams, and um it

449
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Speaker 1: was I guess it was precipitated by a conversation that

450
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Speaker 1: David and I were having last night with Brian um

451
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Speaker 1: about what he was what he was seeing from Connor Williams. Um.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that he mentioned was just

453
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Speaker 1: that it's going to take him a little bit to

454
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Speaker 1: get accustomed to playing where he's playing, playing a guard

455
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,919
Speaker 1: he played tackle at Texas, and a lot of what

456
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Speaker 1: he did at Texas the reason he was success successful

457
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Speaker 1: at Texas, I think, and what Brian was saying is

458
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Speaker 1: because of his athleticism. It was his ability to kind

459
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Speaker 1: of make sure guys don't get around him. But playing

460
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Speaker 1: guard is a much different thing. And Nick I was

461
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Speaker 1: saying in the break, I actually thought of you when

462
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Speaker 1: he started talking about it, because I remembered you talking

463
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Speaker 1: a lot when they were making the transition from Ron

464
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Speaker 1: Leary about how playing guard for you, you want a

465
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Speaker 1: guard that's going to push people around. You want to

466
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Speaker 1: get that push. It was the reason why you weren't

467
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Speaker 1: a big fan of Lyle Collins necessarily playing there as

468
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Speaker 1: much as you were a guy like Ron Leary. But

469
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Speaker 1: talk about just if if the issue for him right

470
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Speaker 1: now is the transition to guard, How does that How

471
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Speaker 1: does that look on an offensive line and otherwise looks

472
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Speaker 1: really really good? Yeah, well, I mean I think that

473
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Speaker 1: that was some of the issues we saw back in

474
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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. They were the worst rushing team on third

475
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Speaker 1: and one in the league. They had three Pro Bowlers,

476
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Speaker 1: and I think Lyle Collins was even an alternate to

477
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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl but yet when it came down to

478
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Speaker 1: really doing your job and knocking people back a yard

479
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Speaker 1: or two off the ball, they had a hard time

480
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Speaker 1: doing that. And I think that's where your strength with

481
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Speaker 1: Connor Williams is going to come into play, or anybody

482
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Speaker 1: really that that's that's the strength. You can't expect these guys.

483
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure if Texas has a great weight room,

484
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Speaker 1: but you can't expect these college players to come in

485
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Speaker 1: and have the kind of strength that they're you know,

486
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Speaker 1: that that you want them to have to play at

487
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Speaker 1: this level. So I think that's going to be an adjustment.

488
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, and and well, it's a little

489
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Speaker 1: tricky right now because and I know, I know brought

490
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Speaker 1: us looks at it as much as anybody, but it

491
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Speaker 1: is still a little tricky this part of the season

492
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Speaker 1: to see how strong a guy is when he's really

493
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Speaker 1: not being able to push people off the ball. It's

494
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Speaker 1: it's just kind of you know, it's harder to see

495
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Speaker 1: the strength. We'll see what happens in training camp and

496
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Speaker 1: we'll see what what his notes look like. They're really

497
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: trying to knock those guys back, but um, it's a

498
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Speaker 1: little bit alarming right now. But I think that's somewhat

499
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Speaker 1: to be expected. Okay, and and well, and we're gonna

500
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Speaker 1: knock on wood and just assume that Tyron Smith will

501
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Speaker 1: be there, which if you're and I mean I never

502
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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody expects him to just be an

503
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Speaker 1: all pro right away. But he's playing between two all pros.

504
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: And that's the point I made right before we came

505
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Speaker 1: back from the break, is like, sorry, Zach, if we're

506
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Speaker 1: making you the highest paid guard in football, then Travis's

507
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: attention should be elsewhere. I'm counting on you to not

508
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Speaker 1: need help basically. Well, but I think that the issue there,

509
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Speaker 1: and what I think really started this conversation in the

510
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: break was what happens then if Tyron is not available

511
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Speaker 1: and now you have back up at tackle and you

512
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Speaker 1: have Connor Williams over there, who is a rookie and

513
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Speaker 1: who may at times look like a rookie, Like, are

514
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Speaker 1: you back to just a tough situation on the left

515
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Speaker 1: side of your offensive? Why you paid Cam Flinting a

516
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Speaker 1: decent amount of money? I mean, I don't. He's not

517
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Speaker 1: gonna make anybody forget about Tyron Smith. But if he's

518
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Speaker 1: as good as his contract and his play with the

519
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Speaker 1: Patriots suggests, then you should be able to weather that

520
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: better than they did last year. Won't be the Atlanta

521
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Speaker 1: Falcons game. I mean, if that happens again with what

522
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Speaker 1: they've done this year, then I don't. I don't. I

523
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Speaker 1: don't know what to do, because I mean, they sure

524
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Speaker 1: looks like they've taken all the appropriate steps. All right,

525
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Speaker 1: all right, let's jump back in on Cole Beasley. I'm

526
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Speaker 1: gonna read this quote for you, and then I just

527
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Speaker 1: want to get before I say anything, I want to

528
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Speaker 1: get your reactions to the quote, what your thoughts are here.

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Speaker 1: Here's what he said yesterday. He was actually speaking to

530
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Speaker 1: one of the media members in the locker room, Jerry Epstein.

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Speaker 1: Here's what he said. It feels like the first time

532
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Speaker 1: we're actually being taught how to run routes instead of

533
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Speaker 1: just naturally doing it. When you get to the NFL

534
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Speaker 1: and you're supposed to know stuff is assumed. Law narrows

535
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Speaker 1: down step by step, doesn't assume anything from basics. That

536
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Speaker 1: being said, tell me what your thoughts are hearing an

537
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Speaker 1: NFL wide receiver, particularly in this instance, Cole Beasley say

538
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Speaker 1: that I think that he's being honest because a lot

539
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Speaker 1: of times we just like we were just talking before

540
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Speaker 1: about well, if you can play tackle, you know you're

541
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Speaker 1: a title, you can just move to guard. If you're

542
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Speaker 1: a corner, you can move to safety. Well if you're

543
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Speaker 1: if you're a position, if you're a head coach in

544
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: college football, you could just be a position coach. And

545
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: that's not always the case. It goes back to basics.

546
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Speaker 1: And that's what we heard that about Sanjay Law from

547
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Speaker 1: back in the Senior Bowl when he was first being hired,

548
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Speaker 1: that he was a great teacher. Jerry Jones said, he

549
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Speaker 1: is an outstanding teacher, and that's what it is. Dave

550
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: Campos said to me that he much, I mean, the

551
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: money was great as a head coach and a coordinator,

552
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: but he loved being a defensive backs coach because he

553
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: could really teach technique and sometimes that's what a coach's

554
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: true calling is. And that's what it seems like that

555
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 1: Sanjay Law is. So I don't know if it's necessarily

556
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Speaker 1: a dig at the other guys and Derek Dooley and

557
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: the former receiver coaches here, but I think that's the

558
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Speaker 1: attention to detail that makes Sanjay Law a little bit

559
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: different than others. Which and you've seen it, like Nick said,

560
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: you've seen this storyline progress, which it's one thing. You know,

561
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Speaker 1: everybody just everybody loves their draft picks, everybody loves their

562
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 1: new coaches. Like that's just a thing. But you know,

563
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: it's one thing. All the way back in January, Jerry's

564
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Speaker 1: like he's a great teacher. He's you know, he teaches.

565
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: These guys were out running better than anything. And then

566
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: you get to rookie camp and you know, the rookies

567
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: aren't even allowed to touch the ball while they're out

568
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: on the field because it's all about fundamentals. And then

569
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Speaker 1: you take it to the next step and the veterans

570
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: are even saying it, so I mean, clearly, I mean

571
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 1: that's the MO that's been the EMO since they hired

572
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: the guy. It just goes back to some of the

573
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Speaker 1: things I heard last year from some wide receivers referring

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Speaker 1: to them not being put in their best position on

575
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Speaker 1: the field. It goes back to what Dave was saying,

576
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Speaker 1: having a good teacher. When you have a good teacher,

577
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: you gain a different kind of respect. You want to learn,

578
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: you want to do better when you know that the

579
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: person above you knows what they're talking about, and knows

580
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Speaker 1: what they're doing and knows how to put you in

581
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Speaker 1: your best position. So the fact that Cole said something

582
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: like that, I mean, it makes me excited to hear

583
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: that and excited to see what they can become with

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00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: this new coach around here and knowing how to position

585
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Speaker 1: them and seeing that the receivers are having this different

586
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: kind of respect that they didn't have before. Well, if

587
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: all that's being If if all this is the case,

588
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: then I have an issue with how things have gone

589
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: in the offseason because they have not used this money

590
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: that Dez Bryant contract created anywhere. Doesn't sound like they're

591
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: just trying to go out and get a safety. So

592
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 1: if this guy is such a great teacher at running routes,

593
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: and what player did have had the most issues running

594
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: routes was des Briant, So why not use des Bryant

595
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: as his as Sanjay Law's best pupil. I mean, why

596
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: why is he coming in here to teach that? Then

597
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: why didn't they let Dez Bryant get the opportunity to

598
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: get better at running routes. He's clearly the most talented

599
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: receiver that they had. I mean, this just doesn't add

600
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: up well unless they needed the money. Do you feel

601
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: that they were aware though, with the coaching spot, as

602
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: far as you know, the whole teaching and running routes.

603
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: I mean, do you do you feel that the ones

604
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: above were aware that maybe the coach was in the

605
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: right fit. Yeah, and just the coach, you're not the player.

606
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: But I think we're making an assumption there that the

607
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: primary reason they got rid of him was because of

608
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Speaker 1: his route running. No, not the primary reason, because because

609
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Speaker 1: I think my belief is that there were more, There

610
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: were bigger reasons that had more to do with how

611
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: he handled himself with his teammates, how he handled himself

612
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: just in the in meeting rooms, all that stuff. I mean,

613
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: watch watch that documentary. It to me, it crystallized all

614
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: the reasons why the Cowboys are probably ready to say it,

615
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: we're going to just move on. Do you think Sanders

616
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: has you think what Dion Sanders is saying about they

617
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: should resign him. You, Mike said the same thing yesterday,

618
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: michael Vin, get out of here. It's not happen. That

619
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: bridge is smoldering in the river. It is not happening.

620
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: And I agree with your point though too, And basically,

621
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna piggyback off what you just said, and

622
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how this works out. And you know,

623
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: the receivers are happy, you know, al Alan Hearns and

624
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: guys like tavon Os and have said the same thing,

625
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: like they love kind of being taught the fundamentals. It's refreshing.

626
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: It's like harkens back to high school. What blah blah

627
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. It all sounds really good right now,

628
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: but clearly like this position and this problem spot has

629
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: been chosen as like the scapegoat. I mean, injuries and

630
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: suspensions played a part last year too, but like this

631
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: is the thing where they're just like this was bad

632
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: and now it will be good and we'll see, like

633
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: we'll see if it actually works out the way that

634
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: they are talking like it should, because they've made a

635
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: lot of they did big changes based on this problem.

636
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: And if it doesn't get better, then then who you

637
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: point And I've said this all along. I said when

638
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: they cut Dez is that they did not get better

639
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: at receiver right now. They're not better right now at receiver.

640
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: They might be better as far as in the inside

641
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: the locker room. It might be better for Dak. I'm

642
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: not really sure, but I just know talent wise, they're

643
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: not better, which is okay if you can use contract

644
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: and all that to get better in another area. So

645
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: that still to me after about two months, it's still

646
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: somewhat of a puzzling decision to cut Dez to me, Yeah,

647
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: but that's okay. I mean, there's probably more to it

648
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: than whatever the all or Nothing documentary showed. I mean,

649
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: there's more than that. But I just think right now,

650
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: if he's such a great teacher, then I think they

651
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: should have let Des get an opportunity to be taught

652
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: like that, and that if they're not going to do

653
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Speaker 1: anything else with the money, if you want to go

654
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 1: trade for a guy that's somewhere, you know, that's the

655
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: squirrel they're not playing in another team, then maybe you

656
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: can do that. And I'm all about getting that money.

657
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: And here's the thing to remember about that, though that

658
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: doesn't have to happen now. That could be in preparation

659
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Speaker 1: for next year, because you can't carry money over, right,

660
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: and so this could be preparation for next year when

661
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: said player could be a free agent, and then you

662
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about giving up a pick in

663
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: all services. Why, I just I don't I love y'all.

664
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Speaker 1: I just I know you do every day when I

665
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: walk down the stairs to come in this studio, i'

666
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: might know what we're talking. No, I'm just like, when's

667
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: gonna happen? Like when where's the opening? Hey? I mean

668
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: he didn't report to mandatory mane. So it is a

669
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: pertinent talking point. Whether it's definitely a conversation worth happening,

670
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: whether I hate it or not, it's worth talking about.

671
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: He started it, Hu, he started it. I didn't say

672
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: any did We started it when he walked in the

673
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: Cowboys locker? Yeah, I didn't. You don't walk to the

674
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: locker room. You can't get there by walking. He had

675
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: to run, right, He had to run over there and

676
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: get and get Jason Garrett. He did. He started it

677
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: and and and nothing has changed since then, and any

678
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: better at safety, he hasn't. He's not any happier where

679
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: he is up there. So I'm just saying that there's

680
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: it's still floating out there. I know, I like, I

681
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: know that doesn't Like I'm trying to think of an analogy,

682
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: and nothing's coming to my mind. You wanted to happen

683
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: just so I'll shut the front door at this point. Yes,

684
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: it gared me so bad right there, Like we're gonna

685
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Speaker 1: have a parade at radio. You can say, well, you

686
00:32:53,200 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: can't know you can't. Yeah, I'm very appropriate. Yeah, at

687
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: this point, I don't. I don't even care about what

688
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: we don't do the breaks. That's why now really we'll

689
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: be talked about. You know, we can't talk about the breaks?

690
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: Can I throw one other thing? I think this is

691
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: also one thing that this that this quote points out

692
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: to me is I think a lot of this is

693
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Speaker 1: a reflection of the unintended consequences of the CBA when

694
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: they took away time. Then guys are spending I'm just saying, though,

695
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: the time that guys spend on the field has been

696
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: diminished significantly, and it's left teams and coaches in situations

697
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: where something had to be cut. And I think in

698
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, technique is what has been cut.

699
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: I think if you look at preseason football in the

700
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: NFL and really the first few weeks of the NFL,

701
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: there's a lot of bad football. There's a lot of mistackles,

702
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of just stuff that to me, are

703
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: all about the basics and the fundamentals. And I don't

704
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: think coaches um have as much time to be able

705
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: to really focus on those things because now the amount

706
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: of time they can actually spend with the players in

707
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: the office season is diminished. By the time they get

708
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 1: to training camp. It's not time for fundamentals. You're stalling offenses.

709
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: You're installing defenses. There is getting your team ready to

710
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: play for an upcoming season. There is nothing like the

711
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: NFL in the sense of like the better you get

712
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: at it, the less likely you are to actually practice

713
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: or like be good at it. You know, Like we're

714
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: just talking, like in order to get Tyrn Smith through

715
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: his career, maybe he will only practice like twenty five

716
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: percent of the time for the rest of the time

717
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: he's playing. Like that's insane, you know what I mean.

718
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: Like and baseball teams and basketball teams like not only

719
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: do they play every day during their season, but in basketball,

720
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: like they'll have two hour practices, and baseball you get

721
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: to the park and take BP and shag balls every day,

722
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: and then like in the NFL, you have I mean,

723
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: training camp practices are halfhearted compared to what they used

724
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: to be, and practices during the season are basically just

725
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: walk throughs. It's it's crazy we're talking about the game,

726
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: We're talking about practice. Man. Yeah, I think I think

727
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: this comes back to the two most annoying words of

728
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: this offseason Earl Thomas. Sorry, yeah, yeah right. More than that,

729
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: more more annoying than that, it's probably the term Dak friendly.

730
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: And I think this is this is what another example

731
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: of that is is that I think the Cowboys believe

732
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: that Dak needs these guys to be exactly where they

733
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: need to be. And there's no freelancing, there's no out

734
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: athleting anybody else. You need to run the route correctly,

735
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: get open to the spot so our quarterback can can

736
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: give him the football. Yeah, and that he's still learning

737
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: as well, so help him be as good as he

738
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: can be. Um. And I think that's that's where. Get

739
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: a good teacher in here, get good route runners in here,

740
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: and let this offense kind of flow like it should.

741
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: And for the record, I think it's a good strategy.

742
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: I think it plays to Dak's strengths. It plays to

743
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: the strength of this team, which is running the ball. U.

744
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 1: Having said that, I'll going back to what I said

745
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: a minute ago, Like if it doesn't work, then that's

746
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: gonna create some tough conversations because why I mean, because

747
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: all offseason it's all been about how like this is

748
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: the way to go. So if it doesn't work, then

749
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: who we blame the next, right, other than the head

750
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: coach right to the top, right the head coach on

751
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: the quarterback? Yeah, I mean, but it goes right to

752
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: the top at that point, like you have everything that

753
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: you need. You you kind of created the thing and

754
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: the image that you think it needs to be. And

755
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work in you have to be If

756
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 1: this team doesn't do well and they and they don't

757
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, we think we know what that means

758
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: for the coaching staff or at least at the top.

759
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: And we also think that, um, you know, if it

760
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: doesn't go well because of the quarterback, then I'm sure

761
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: that the high draft picks probably gonna I mean, I

762
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: think quarterback will be in play, I really do. I mean,

763
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of gonna look really weird around town because

764
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of billboards, there's a lot of trucks.

765
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: So those two want to change, they will. Yeah, We've

766
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: seen that happen because guess what we're changing a lot

767
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: of them to have eighty two on them as well. Right,

768
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: that's the nature of the NFL. You have to change things, though,

769
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: But I still see act me Brick commercials with Troy Aikman.

770
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: I understand that. All I'm saying, though, is there's a

771
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: lot of stuff that around here that we've learned over

772
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: the years. You have to be flexible enough to change

773
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: quickly because one day a player might be here. The

774
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: next week he may be gone before I just get

775
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: killed on Twitter. I don't think that's going to happen.

776
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: I think the quarterback that they have right now, it's

777
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: going to be the quarterback for this team for the

778
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: next six seven years. I really think that, if not longer.

779
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: I say, I'm I think he's the guy. For the record,

780
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: I think all this stuff is gonna work. I really

781
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: do love the direction you're going with. I didn't say that,

782
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: Come on, I didn't say that. Yeah, and I we'll

783
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: see if it plays playoffs. But when you when you

784
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: have the kind of offensive line that the Cowboys have

785
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: put together, and you have the kind of running back

786
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have, I think that you can take

787
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: the strategy that they're taking a wide receiver and if

788
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: it works. The beauty of it is now they can

789
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: just plug and play with those players. They can take

790
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: that money and invest it in other positions, in my opinion,

791
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: like your offensive line, your defensive line. There's a lot

792
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: of things. I was having this discussion with somebody the

793
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: other day. There are some a lot of question marks

794
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: around this team. But if the question marks fall on

795
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: the side of the Cowboys, this is one of those

796
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 1: years you could have a team that goes all the way.

797
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: You could also have a team that really falls apart

798
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: right because there's so many question marks. The linebacker is

799
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: a good example of that. Like, if everything works out,

800
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 1: Shawn Lee's healthy, if Jaylen Smith is back to what

801
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: he was before the injury or somewhere close, If Vanderesh

802
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: plays pretty good and those two guys are doing their thing, like,

803
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 1: your linebackers could be extremely good, some of the best

804
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: in the league, and that will make your defense that

805
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: much better. But if Sean Lee's hurt, if Jalen Smith

806
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: isn't what they expect him to be, if Vanderesh looks

807
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: like a rookie, your linebacking corps could be really really

808
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: bad and your defense would probably be really really bad.

809
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: And that's my point, like, there is a big gap

810
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: between what this team can be on either side. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just gotta make sure that your backup plan works,

812
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: that you do have a backup plan, and that we

813
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: don't see what happened last year when Tyren Smith went out,

814
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 1: that you put a guy that I mean, you knew

815
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: this could happen. You knew Tyrn could go out at

816
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: any given time, and your backup plan didn't work, and

817
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: you didn't focus on making your backup work. So those

818
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: are the things that I'm looking at moving forward. Is Okay,

819
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: what's your backup plan? Who's your backup guy? Is he

820
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: gonna be? Like? Is he gonna get the job done

821
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: when you need him to get it done? Because we

822
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: know a lot of the guys they have are now.

823
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: They're great when they're healthy and when they're on the field,

824
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: we know what they could do and it could be awesome.

825
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: But if it goes down, which we've seen can happen,

826
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen? They have a good backup. All right,

827
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: let's take our final break, will come back. I'll have

828
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: some of those bigger picture closing questions here that I

829
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: want you guys to answer, We'll get everybody ready for

830
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,759
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890
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Speaker 1: I'm having an out of body experience right now. This

891
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: is Blame it on Derek Ca you threw me this,

892
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: That's okay. Well no, if you don't know the backstory.

893
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: Last week, when Amber was was doing my job, she

894
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: decided she was going to throw it at me at

895
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 1: the last minute, like, hey, here you go, you're turning

896
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Speaker 1: to do the read. So I just gave it back

897
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: to her, so so good. All right, So we're rolling

898
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Speaker 1: through this thing. This is again our final show before

899
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: we take a little break here for you the guys

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00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: out there, And I just want to make a note

901
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: real quick for you guys out there listening. I know

902
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: we've made some changes to the site and we've gotten

903
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: I've gotten some messages from you guys on some issues

904
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: that were happening with some of the podcasts and not

905
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: being able to find them. Just know we're aware of it.

906
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: We're working on the issues with the league to make

907
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: sure we get all this lined out. I promise you

908
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: by the time we get the training camp, when we're

909
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: doing these shows every day, that you guys will have

910
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: it in the way you're normally normally used to getting

911
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: all of our shows. We just have to work out

912
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: some of these kinks, and this is why we did

913
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: it at this time of the year and so that

914
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: we do have a little bit of time to get this.

915
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: We also say update your Google Chrome if that's the issue,

916
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: because a lot of people that are having issues with

917
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: the website and what it looks like if it's on

918
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: Google Chrome, that and an older version of the older

919
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: version of it that it needs to be updated. I

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00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: thot that was an issue for you. That's an issue

921
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: as far as how it looks. But yeah, from a

922
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: standpoint the podcast and some of those not flowing in

923
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: and then flowing into iTunes. We're working with both the

924
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: league and iTunes on that, so just know we're working

925
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: on all that. We're appreciate you guys giving us the feedback.

926
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: Keep giving me feedback, letting me know if you see

927
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: things that aren't quite working right, and well, I promise

928
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: you'll have it worked out by the time we get

929
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: to camp. And this is uh, this is Derek improving

930
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: on some things that we've done in the past too,

931
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: because there's been several times where we've opened training camp

932
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: with the brand new site and then the kinks like

933
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 1: that need to be ironed out. And now the first

934
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: press conference of training camp and it's not looking That's

935
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: why you do this in mid June like this, you

936
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: learn from your less good. Yeah, so yeah, we'll definitely,

937
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: we'll definitely get all this stuff worked out. Just keep

938
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: giving us feedback and be patient with us. We'll have

939
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: it ready by the time we get to camp. All right, Um,

940
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: so let's get to our final segment here. We got

941
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: some questions. I got three questions for you guys, And

942
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Speaker 1: the point of these questions is more to kind of

943
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: give people a big picture look at the offseason, the

944
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: highs and lows, and then kind of what that means.

945
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Speaker 1: So I want you to answer the question, but I

946
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: really am expecting that we can get into more of

947
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: a conversation about some of these things to just give

948
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: people a good you know, tie this this nice bow

949
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: with the top of this thing at the top of

950
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: this offseason so everybody can get a good idea of

951
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: what happened. So let's start first with what has been

952
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: the biggest loss for the Cowboys. And I have four

953
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: names here, Des Bryant, Jason Witten, Anthony Hitchins, Orlando Scandrick.

954
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: There have been two guys that lost that left in

955
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Speaker 1: free agency, one that was cut and them I'm sorry

956
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: with Scandrid cut. Yeah though, two cut, one loss of

957
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: free agency and then one retired. What has been the

958
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 1: biggest loss or what player has been the biggest loss

959
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys? Mine would be Anthony Hitchins. Anthony Hitchins.

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Speaker 1: I would say so because right now, I mean, I

961
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: don't feel one hundred percent confident with the linebackers, and

962
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: we all knew we could trust Anthony Hitchins to be

963
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: there into filling that role as a leader on the field.

964
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: So when shan Lee went down, I mean, it was

965
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: never great, but there's a guy you could count on

966
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Speaker 1: for sure, So that would be mine in and as

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00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: far as the dus Bryan Tham, I'm still I think

968
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: it was a good move at the time. We'll see

969
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Speaker 1: what it means in the future, but at the time,

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00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: I think that was the decision I would have wanted

971
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 1: to happen, all right, in the grand scheme of things,

972
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: I don't I don't have a problem that Dees isn't here,

973
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: but I still think that's the biggest loss. I mean,

974
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Speaker 1: I don't know, like franchise leader and receiving touchdowns, and

975
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: he's you know, he hasn't looked like he used to,

976
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: but he I mean, he can still be a dynamic threat.

977
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Speaker 1: And he easily is the most proven receiver here. So,

978
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: like I said, it sounds good on paper, but that's

979
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: I mean, that's still something they got to learn to

980
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 1: live without. I mean, all four of those are really

981
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: up for debate because you know, a linebacker, they had

982
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 1: to go get a first round pick because I think

983
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: because of that, I don't think they drafted vandirect if

984
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: they don't, if they resigned Hitchens at cornerback, I mean,

985
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: they don't have any veterans there, you know. And so

986
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: I know we talk about Scandrick based off his attitude

987
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. It's like he's fine, you know,

988
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: go on to Washington whatever. But I mean they don't

989
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: have any experience there at that position. So that's a

990
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: tough question. I mean, you can say anything you want, really,

991
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the first time we see signs of trouble

992
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: at training camp, then you can be like that was

993
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: the tough move. I mean, that's a really good question.

994
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have a great answer. Here

995
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: in early June. Yeah, I'm a I'm a little bit

996
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 1: surprised none of you guys mentioned Jason Whitney. And I

997
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: think it's more from a consistency standpoint that I would

998
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: worry that he's a bigger loss because I don't personally

999
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: feel like they are, and I shouldn't say it like that,

1000
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: but I think there are ways for them to not

1001
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: miss him as much as far as just play. I

1002
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: think hopefully this means that they'll have four wide receivers

1003
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: on the field more frequently. Hopefully this means that they

1004
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: maybe get they maybe get a little bit more athletic

1005
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: at the tight end position. I don't think they have

1006
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: a tight end on the squad right now who is

1007
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: more well rounded than Jason. But I think if they're

1008
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: smart and they know how to put people in right positions,

1009
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: they can probably make up for most of that. So

1010
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: that all being said, though, I'm still a little bit

1011
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: surprised that nobody mentioned you. I didn't say his name

1012
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: just because we knew he was close to his ending.

1013
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: You know, we knew it was approaching, and it wasn't

1014
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: like he was cut or sent to another team. He's

1015
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: not playing, he's not playing anymore. So that was a

1016
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: different perspective and point of view. But figure question, Honestly,

1017
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: that was probably the biggest surprise loss of the offseason.

1018
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: I know when we entered the office, Yeah, you tell

1019
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: me these four, which one is it is still gonna

1020
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: be here? Yeah, wouldn't would have been when I'd be like,

1021
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: of course weldn't still. No, it was definitely a surprise,

1022
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: and I am choosing to believe in June. Maybe I'll

1023
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: be wrong, but I want to believe that Witten leaving

1024
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: the team means that this is as different as the

1025
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: offense will look as it has in a while, Like

1026
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: more ten personnel, you know, running backs getting the ball

1027
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: more often, Tavon Austin having a role like that all

1028
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: intrigues me. And if they do it as well as

1029
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: I think they can, then I think it'll offset that

1030
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: loss pretty well. All right, let's go to the next question.

1031
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 1: Who was the greatest addition? Alan Hearns, Cameron Fleming, Tavon

1032
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: Austin or jahad Ward. Who was the second one? Uh?

1033
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: Cameron Fleming offensive lineman, the tackle we talked about from

1034
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: New England. I think I have to say him. I

1035
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: want to say Tavon Austin. I've talked enough about how

1036
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: I feel about that, but he I think that's huge

1037
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: a sp I mean not one hundred percent confident in

1038
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith and so I mean, well, that could pay

1039
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: big dividends if they need him. It was the first

1040
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: guy um Alan hearns, hearns another good good question. I mean,

1041
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: I mean especially Jahad word because you know all this

1042
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: stuff we talked about with Um, with David Irvingham, he

1043
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: and Malik getting hurt. I mean, he could come in

1044
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: and really be a difference maker. Um, I think I

1045
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: would go with I guess I'll go with Tavon, But

1046
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 1: I mean, we gotta, we gotta see if that if

1047
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: Lenahan and this offense is really gonna use him that way,

1048
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: if they use him like it sounds like it and

1049
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: all all his team think he's the fastest player on

1050
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: the team, then they need to use that. You use

1051
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: that and put the ball in his hands, I would say, flaming.

1052
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a guy that when it happened,

1053
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Speaker 1: it legitimately, if that's the right word. I felt excitement

1054
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: for it, just because it's a guy that in a

1055
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Speaker 1: position in a need, a position, a guy that has experienced,

1056
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Speaker 1: that has been in the Super Bowl. You know, someone

1057
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 1: that you could rely on in a way. Now as

1058
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: far as Tavon, yeah, he a guy that everyone's excited

1059
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 1: about and there was a lot of hype and their

1060
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: speed there and ability and blah blah blah, but we

1061
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: still don't know how he's going to be utilized. So

1062
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: as of need and position, I would go with flaming.

1063
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: All right, So if I add an additional option there

1064
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: of Chris Richard, does that change your opinion on that answer? Coaching?

1065
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: That's tough? Not yet, yep. I mean he sounds sounds good,

1066
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: sounds the part. But first, you know, drive of the

1067
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: game in Carolina, we see a forty five yard pass

1068
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: interference penalty on Jordan Lewis because his head's not turned

1069
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: around right then, I mean it doesn't really matter. I

1070
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: mean you can say you can make that case for everybody,

1071
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: not to mention. I mean, Christopher Shard ain't stepping in

1072
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: for Tyren Smith if he can't play, like ultimately, that's

1073
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: what worries me. So okay, all right, final question. You

1074
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 1: imagine a coach and I got players I'm going in guys,

1075
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: I means it's true, he wears pretty impressive if a

1076
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: coach just jumped out there and just ran on the

1077
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: film and played in twenty fifteen when Matt Castle was

1078
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: out there and weedon, I mean, I'm not sure that

1079
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: Garrett couldn't just take the headset off and go out there.

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00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: Very very valid point. All right, Final question, which rookie

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00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: will have the biggest impact in twenty eighteen Layton Vanderesh,

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00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: Connor Williams, Mike Michael Gallup or Daurance Armstrong. Feel free

1083
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: to throw in another rookie if you choose, so which

1084
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: one will have the biggest impact in two thousand and eighteen?

1085
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: Like White? Like White? I've been saying Connor since he

1086
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: was drafted. I'm gonna stick with that and then change

1087
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: after that conversation last night. No, okay, I mean you know,

1088
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: I don't expect him to be an all pro. I

1089
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: just expect him to be good. And I mean if

1090
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: he's not with the guys around him and where he

1091
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: was drafted, that's strange to me. And all again, he's

1092
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: the only rookie that I expect to play one hundred

1093
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: percent of the snaps so to finish. Ye, that's if

1094
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the biggest impact. Then that's troublesome. Even

1095
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: even as a rookie, even if he's not an all

1096
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: pro right away like Zach, he's still I think he

1097
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: needs he will make an impact. I mean, he has

1098
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: to be the one that makes the biggest impact just

1099
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: because he's no, he's not rotating around with other guys,

1100
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: so he's getting more time of practice and more time

1101
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: of being on the field as opposed to these other

1102
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: guys that keep being rotated around and don't have as

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00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: much time on the field. So, and I'm intrigued with Layton.

1104
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: We'll take him, take him out of the equation of him.

1105
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: If we think he's gonna start with about the other guys,

1106
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,479
Speaker 1: then of those other things, I go with Armstrong. Really, yeah,

1107
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 1: I do. I think Armstrong. Now he's gonna have to

1108
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: withstand the intense. You know, he's gonna be Marinelli's whipping me. Yeah,

1109
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: he's just the flurry of it. But if he can

1110
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 1: get through, if he cannot be Ryan Russell right, and

1111
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: he can, he can overcome that, and he can learn

1112
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: from this. I think he's going to be the guy

1113
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: that comes in on third down and gets just a

1114
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: sneaky six or seven sacks this year, and which that

1115
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: would be great more than the thirty seven catches Gallops

1116
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: gonna give you. Well, you know, I'm glad. I'm glad

1117
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: you said that. This conversation off the air that we've

1118
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 1: had this week, this is my own personal bias. I

1119
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: do not expect Michael Gallop to crack the starting three,

1120
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: barring injury. I just I don't whether that's some of

1121
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: who you're starting three would be. I would assume it's

1122
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: Hearn's Beasley in Terrence when it's all said and done.

1123
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I think those are the guys that get

1124
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: the majority of it. But I've talked to people here

1125
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: who know more than I do who They're like, Oh,

1126
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's not week one, it'll be by

1127
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 1: week four, Gallops one of the starting three. Which if

1128
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: that's the case, then I'm not given this kid enough credit.

1129
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: And it's hard to really judge that based on mini camp.

1130
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: But that's something to watch at training camp. I mean,

1131
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna you're gonna see the one on ones. You're

1132
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: gonna see you know, they do four or five team

1133
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: periods at a time, Like he's gonna have a chance

1134
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: to do it and if that's true, then like I'm

1135
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: not giving him enough credit right now, because if it's

1136
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: not Connor, then my answer would be vander Esh because

1137
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean him and Jalen are both going to play

1138
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: a ton of snaps, and I think he's gonna be

1139
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: pretty good. So I'm honestly starting to think the same

1140
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: thing on Gallup. Like, I just think that when you

1141
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: look at the wide receiver position, I don't think there's

1142
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: a dominant player there right now. I don't think these

1143
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: veterans what we've seen of I don't think that the

1144
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 1: guys that we that the Cowboys have, other than maybe

1145
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: Cole who's had some moments of success, I think for

1146
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: you know, for the rest of those guys, I think

1147
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: when you look at him, I think they're gonna continue

1148
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: to be what they've been. And I think Michael Gallup

1149
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: poses an interesting difference. I think he probably is a

1150
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: better route runner, it's probably quicker, and I think that

1151
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: they're going to probably be able to utilize him in

1152
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: ways that maybe they I can't get from the other guys.

1153
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: Um I'll say just complete it's total snaps from the

1154
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: rookie class. I think first will be Connor Williams. The

1155
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: second will be Layton vanderesh Th. Total snaps will be

1156
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: Chris Covington. That's why I really yep, damn total snaps,

1157
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 1: special teams all the way, every position on special teams

1158
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: active every game. That's my prediction. Can I predict something

1159
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: on that. I actually don't think Layton van dersh is

1160
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: gonna have as many snaps as you think. The reason

1161
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: why I'm really starting and yeah, I understand that, I

1162
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: understand that, Pats. I just I think that I'm very

1163
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: optimistic about what he can be this year. And if

1164
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: he can be what a lot of people think he

1165
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: can be this year, then he and Sean are going

1166
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: to be out there most of the time. I've been

1167
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: here too long. I know you've been here too long.

1168
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: I know that you know who the owner is and

1169
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: the general manager. You know that the first round pick

1170
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: gets scrutinized if he's not on the field. He will

1171
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: be on the field. But let me see this. He

1172
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: also Jalen is one of his guys. That's a that's

1173
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: a pet, that's a pet project for Jerry, right, yea,

1174
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: So how do you make that distinction like he's a

1175
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: second round pick that they fought highly. They thought he

1176
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: was the first round pick. So I'm I'm with it.

1177
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: I've been beating this into the ground, but I believe it.

1178
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: Like you're helping Jayalen be the best version of himself

1179
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: by not worrying about that anyway. Like I mean, vander

1180
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: Esh's strength is supposedly his ability and coverage. Let him

1181
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: worry about that. I want Jalen Smith moving toward the

1182
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. Sam Nickel, pass rusher, go get the quarterback.

1183
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: Do those types you're saying Nickell, keep three linebackers on

1184
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: the field and have him as a You could if

1185
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: you wanted to know BA you really don't go to

1186
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: Nickel bass like bass Sam, and then I mean you

1187
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: could maybe do that. I don't know. I think is

1188
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: that good of a coverage guy, then maybe you could,

1189
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: especially the eleven person, though I think it's way more.

1190
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean, no, I don't think you would play three

1191
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: linebackers and Nickel. I think you would play Layton in

1192
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 1: most situations and played Jalen sometimes when it's a run

1193
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: situation or something, or or a pass rush situation something

1194
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: like that. I just I think Jalen's better off playing

1195
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 1: a smaller number of snaps that allow him to use

1196
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 1: his athleticism moving forward to make plays instead of just

1197
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: being like, hey, you're the mic, you got to do

1198
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: everything the mic does. I think that's how you wind

1199
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: up exposing him, right, So well we'll see though, that's

1200
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: what training came from. Also, I guess the other thing

1201
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: when I start thinking about it from Vanderesh to standpoint

1202
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: is that Vanderesh is a guy that hasn't had a

1203
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: ton of experience. I mean, he is a still a

1204
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: young player. Um he's he's a guy who had basically

1205
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: one year of real production in college. So he may

1206
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: not be ready for the prime time just yet. And

1207
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: I think I hope not, because because when you draft,

1208
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: when you draft the guy in nineteen, you're saying that

1209
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: he is that's a that's that's a that's not what

1210
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: I want to hear about a guy that was drafted nineteenth,

1211
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 1: Like he needs to be used to be ready. All right,

1212
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: Well we will see if not from Maryland in here Jay, Yeah,

1213
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: you only need to see him in the first game

1214
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: of the year. But to that that's true. To that point,

1215
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen, everything they've put into him, he's thirty

1216
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: fourth overall pick. He's not that right, which just let

1217
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: them let the best man win, Like if Jalen's really

1218
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: if Jalen's ready to be the kid from Notre Dame,

1219
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: then nobody's gonna be that upset if Layton vander esh

1220
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: is limited on snap and but for the injury, he's

1221
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: a well better he's a much better prospect. And I

1222
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: know you can't always just completely divide those two, but

1223
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: all I'm saying is he was a much better prospect

1224
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: before that injury than Layton vander will work itself out.

1225
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: You've been going to have a linebacker controversy, like somebody

1226
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: will get like, it'll work itself out. They're all gonna play.

1227
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: You've been here too long to just hop so fullheartedly

1228
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: onto a hype train like that. Well you know was

1229
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: one for you, because I do. I do like to

1230
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: have like these kinds of things we can ride throughout

1231
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: training camp but throughout the season. So put me in

1232
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: the camp of Jalen Smith's gonna have a great season

1233
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: the ball, Pro Bowl. Get it out there, come on,

1234
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: do it yes, Oh, okay, Pro Bowl season for Jaln Smith.

1235
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: And so we can watch this the whole season and

1236
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: just know that's where I am. That all right, I'm

1237
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: all on to answer family few. Yeah, problems will get

1238
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: some break. Let's go house the time off for a

1239
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: little bit. We appreciate you guys rolling with us this

1240
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 1: whole offseason. We're gonna take a few weeks here to

1241
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: kind of catch our breaths. We'll be back on the

1242
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: air July twenty fifth. July twenty fourth, we'll head to

1243
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: training camp. From twenty fifth we start up our shows.

1244
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: We'll be doing daily shows from training camp and Oxnard, California.

1245
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Speaker 1: So till then. For Nick Eatman, David Hellman, Amber Garcia,

1246
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,840
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