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Speaker 1: of headlines here, The Mountain West is pushing for fall football.
Speaker 1: Haven't heard about the PAC twelve. I did hear from
Speaker 1: my source this morning. It said it would not be
Speaker 1: surprised if the presidents get together by tomorrow. Doesn't know
Speaker 1: if there will be a vote, but there is an
Speaker 1: inordinate amount of pressure on the PAC twelve now because
Speaker 1: the Big ten is in and the PAC twelve was
Speaker 1: aligned with the Big ten. Now the Big ten goes
Speaker 1: all in, and now the question is will the PAC
Speaker 1: twelve follow. The Mountain West is trying to play football.
Speaker 1: You might have the Mid American Conference that'll revisit this.
Speaker 1: But this was my big criticism when this first started
Speaker 1: with the PAC twelve and the Big Ten postpone, don't
Speaker 1: cancel and if you postpone, you bide some time, and
Speaker 1: they didn't do it. Now you have to backtrack and
Speaker 1: basically say because the Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren had
Speaker 1: to do that because they said, we're not revisiting this,
Speaker 1: and then you're revisiting this. Tonight you have the Bengals
Speaker 1: and the Browns. The Browns are six point favorites here
Speaker 1: heat Celtics Game two. It'll be the Lakers against the
Speaker 1: Nuggets coming up tomorrow night, Dodgers first to clinch. By
Speaker 1: the way, the California Governor Gavin Newsom gave the PAC
Speaker 1: twelve schools the thumbs up. He says, there's no law
Speaker 1: against you guys trying to play. And I think they're
Speaker 1: the ones. You know. When we talked to their commissioner,
Speaker 1: he said, Larry Scott said, what was it last week? Hey,
Speaker 1: we've come up with this test, and then the Big
Speaker 1: Ten hearing the interview with the commissioner on our show goes, well,
Speaker 1: can we have those tests? And that helped expedite the
Speaker 1: Big ten coming back. Yeah. See the subtext of that is,
Speaker 1: don't blame this on me as your fault, Larry, You're
Speaker 1: on your own. You figure it out. It's not my fault. Yeah,
Speaker 1: trying to distance myself from this, not age seven seven
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Speaker 1: when a coach is getting ready to face a player
Speaker 1: and then he hands out the verbal bouquets. Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: is doing that with Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson will join
Speaker 1: us on the program tomorrow. Belichick says, Honestly, I think
Speaker 1: he is in a way underrated by the media or
Speaker 1: the fans. I don't know, but I don't really see
Speaker 1: anybody better than this player. This guy is a tremendous player. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's a seven time pro bowler. The only surprise with
Speaker 1: all of this with Russell Wilson is and he's who
Speaker 1: I picked for the MVP this year. He's never received
Speaker 1: a vote for the MVP, and there have been a
Speaker 1: couple of seasons at least two where I thought he
Speaker 1: was as valuable to his team as anybody else in
Speaker 1: the league was to their respective teams. But he's done it.
Speaker 1: He's been great. And you know, you go back to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl matchup there, Sunday night will mark the
Speaker 1: fourth time the Patriots will face Russell Wilson. That includes
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl when Malcolm Butler had the interception yes point.
Speaker 1: So this is Russell Wilson's Paul Newman Color of Money win.
Speaker 1: Where was a Career Achievement award and Paul Newman had
Speaker 1: been overlooked for two decades and they gave him the
Speaker 1: Best Actor Award for Color of Money. Yeah, I've said
Speaker 1: this before about Russell Wilson. Took him ten years to
Speaker 1: be an overnight sensation. He's been great, and he's consistent,
Speaker 1: and he's durable, he's tough, he's clutch, he's everything that
Speaker 1: you want in a quarterback. But he plays in Seattle,
Speaker 1: and I think that you know, are you watching their games,
Speaker 1: you know the style that they play was not exciting offensively,
Speaker 1: and he'll put up numbers, but it feels like he
Speaker 1: puts up those numbers in the fourth quarter. And this
Speaker 1: was a defense first team, and then a running team
Speaker 1: as well with Marshawn Lynch. And then I think Pete
Speaker 1: Carroll realized Russell Wilson is the star of this team
Speaker 1: and should be the star of this team. Let me
Speaker 1: see what else. Belichick shared his respect for Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll and linebacker Bobby Wagner. So that's coming
Speaker 1: up tomorrow or Sunday night on NBC. That'll be good.
Speaker 1: It'd be fun. I don't think there's a better deep
Speaker 1: ball passer in the league. He attacks literally every inch
Speaker 1: of that man, Belichick, What happened to Belichick? Who is
Speaker 1: this guy? Now that Tom's gunn he's loose. Wilson has
Speaker 1: four thousand rushing yards. Now he's got thirty thousand passing yards.
Speaker 1: Feels like you should have more than thirty thousand passing yards,
Speaker 1: but four thousand rushing yards. He's gonna end up with
Speaker 1: five thousand rushing yards probably, if not more, he'll end
Speaker 1: up with what fifty thousand passing yards, depending on how
Speaker 1: long he wants to play? Yeah, point yeah, I think
Speaker 1: if he played till let's say thirty eight, he'd be
Speaker 1: at fifty thousand and six thousand. Yeah. Well, he's going
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame. If you're what a seven
Speaker 1: time Pro Bowl quarterback, you're going to go into the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Yeah, McLevin. It's just it Pete Carroll
Speaker 1: doesn't give him enough attempts. That's been the issue, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that hurts, you know when
Speaker 1: the voters go, Well, his own coach didn't trust him
Speaker 1: to throw the ball more. But this season is going
Speaker 1: to be different, yeah, McLevin. But that's not a reflection
Speaker 1: of Russell. Pete Carroll. Even this week he said I
Speaker 1: got to establish a run more. He's if he had
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Is he trying to establish the run? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what people are saying about Pete Carroll. You know,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson had a perfect rating last week and he
Speaker 1: came out and said, I got to run the ball.
Speaker 1: He's obsessed. He's old school, remember those guys. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I don't know until the fourth quarter, yes, exactly. Yeah. Hey,
Speaker 1: we've been running the ball and we're a head twelve ten.
Speaker 1: Hey Russ, can you help us get a touchdown here? Yes,
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're saying Pete Carroll is going to
Speaker 1: like create and take away Russell Wilson's Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he created it, but he might
Speaker 1: be taking away from his Hall of Fame career. I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy, he's smart. I don't know. Will winning percentage
Speaker 1: is great, he didn't miss a game. You join us
Speaker 1: tomorrow on the program. Yes, how about this analogy? You
Speaker 1: know how Tom Brady and his early Super bowls wasn't
Speaker 1: the key to the team, but then his numbers took off.
Speaker 1: Is Russell Wilson similar where he wasn't the key to
Speaker 1: that first Super Bowl, but now he's superstar love So wait,
Speaker 1: after what eight years? Now you're gonna let him throw
Speaker 1: the ball? Well, Brady's numbers skyrocketed about seven or eight
Speaker 1: years into his career a little bit. He wasn't a
Speaker 1: huge passer until like two thousand and seven. No, actually,
Speaker 1: right then, a couple of phone calls in here West
Speaker 1: in Michigan. Hey Wes, what do you have for me today? Hey? Dan?
Speaker 1: First one to thank you for your Big Ten reporting.
Speaker 1: As a Big Ten fan, I appreciate it. Pretty accurate
Speaker 1: on all fronts. Yeah, And when it comes to Kelvin,
Speaker 1: I think I might be a little biased because I
Speaker 1: watched all of Calvin's games, But when it comes to
Speaker 1: this Hall of Fame, I think he just passes the
Speaker 1: watch to us, and you know, the stats are pretty good.
Speaker 1: But also I think he kind of changes the position
Speaker 1: and that every team needed this big, physical wide receiver
Speaker 1: that could get up and you know, make the catches.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you see some of his highlights, he's
Speaker 1: grabbing touchdown catches over three guys and it was just
Speaker 1: amazing watching him. I don't thanks for the phone call, West.
Speaker 1: I don't think that he reinvented the position because you know,
Speaker 1: Randy Moss was doing this, Tarall Owens was doing this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's probably going to be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: He had three great years, maybe the three greatest years
Speaker 1: and wide receivers ever had. Who is more of a
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer? Now, let me take away what has
Speaker 1: happened with this player personally, Antonio Brown or Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 1: If I said who's a Hall of Famer, you might
Speaker 1: lean towards Antonio Brown, But of course all the craziness
Speaker 1: that's gone along with this, I don't know. He would
Speaker 1: definitely not be first ballot Hall of Fame no matter
Speaker 1: what happens the rest of his career. If he comes
Speaker 1: back and he puts up some decent numbers gets a chance,
Speaker 1: there will be voters who will you can't put you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't put Taryll Owens in first ballot, and a
Speaker 1: lot of that was the other stuff with his personality.
Speaker 1: You can't put Antonio Brown in first ballot, even if
Speaker 1: he has three more great seasons coming back. Yampling Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown four All pros, Calvin Johnson three time All Pro.
Speaker 1: What's what's yards after the catch for Antonio Brown? Because
Speaker 1: mclovin says that's the key stat right, No, no, just yards? Okay,
Speaker 1: yak is a is here, But they're both Hall of famers.
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown thirteen yards a per per catch. I mean,
Speaker 1: Calvin is the sixteen. Don't make me do it. But
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown a bit of a system. I mean he
Speaker 1: was getting passes from Big Ben. You know those Steelers
Speaker 1: will just plug in receivers, Okay, all right, a system
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I mean it's it feels like they find guys. Well, no,
Speaker 1: they do. The Lions, on the other hand, cannot that's true.
Speaker 1: But they're both first ballot under nor if Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: wasn't in trouble, that's what I would Antonio Brown is
Speaker 1: probably more first ballot is he a Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: right now, Antonio Brown, if his career in yes, because
Speaker 1: they're told, aren't they told not to look it off
Speaker 1: the field? Well they do. They did that to Michael Irvin.
Speaker 1: They did it to Tarall Owens. It's weird. They didn't
Speaker 1: do that to Lawrence Taylor. It's like Lawrence Taylor. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you did a little this, a little that. You're
Speaker 1: still too great? Yeah, seton, But when off the field
Speaker 1: costs you time on the field, you have to take
Speaker 1: it into consideration. Antonio Brown should have you know how
Speaker 1: many more seasons of Yeah. No, he's been his own
Speaker 1: worst enemy. Yeah. Pault and Calvin Johnson we know zero
Speaker 1: about it. On the field. If Calvin dr Kawhi Leonard
Speaker 1: never went deep into the playoffs, he'd beat Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 1: Be like, man, that guy, he looks great out there.
Speaker 1: Never hear from him in the postseason. H Sish in
Speaker 1: Arizona joining us on the program. Hey, what's up? Dan
Speaker 1: sixty eight? And because of quarantine, I guess they're not
Speaker 1: so solid three hundred pounds Okay, all right, So I'm
Speaker 1: always going to him to the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1: But what is it going to take for you to
Speaker 1: consider Larry Fitzgerald the greatest wide receiver of all time.
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's in the same category with
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice. He's not in the same category as Randy Moss.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much you game plan for Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1: And you can't help but love Larry Fitzgerald as a person,
Speaker 1: and he plays and he shows up, and he's durable
Speaker 1: and you know all these I mean, I remember when
Speaker 1: he was at Pittsburgh. Yeah, he just and people thought that, hey,
Speaker 1: he has a chance to be a good pro. He's
Speaker 1: turned out to, you know, far surpass what people thought
Speaker 1: he was going to be. But I just I think
Speaker 1: you got a game plan for somebody when you're talking
Speaker 1: about the greatest of all time at a position. I
Speaker 1: got a game plan for you. And I don't think
Speaker 1: you're game planning for Larry Fitzgerald. Maybe the Steelers were
Speaker 1: trying to do that in the Super Bowl because he
Speaker 1: was their best player and nearly won that Super Bowl
Speaker 1: for yeah mclub. Yeah what if he had won that
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Would it be different? Well, you still didn't
Speaker 1: game plan for him. And I don't know if you
Speaker 1: set your defense and go we got to stop Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's not fair to him, but it felt
Speaker 1: like you had to stop Jerry Rice. You had to
Speaker 1: stop Randy Moss, you had to stop arall Owens. If
Speaker 1: we're going to say greatest of all time, and I
Speaker 1: can't put him in there. The numbers are going to
Speaker 1: be overwhelming, But I just I wouldn't put him as
Speaker 1: the greatest receiver because if you do, then are you
Speaker 1: saying is the greatest football player? Because we've I think
Speaker 1: sometimes readily acknowledged that Jerry Rice is the greatest player
Speaker 1: of all time because of the crazy numbers that he
Speaker 1: put up. So that would make Larry Fitzgerald the greatest
Speaker 1: player of all time and he's not. Yeah. Point, if
Speaker 1: you go back to that Super Bowl, though Larry had
Speaker 1: that big long catch late in the game, he would
Speaker 1: have been the MVP. He would have been the star.
Speaker 1: You know that playoffs, he was All Pro that season.
Speaker 1: He had seven touchdown receptions in four playoff games. It
Speaker 1: was his season and it got taken away at the end.
Speaker 1: David in Pennsylvania joining us, Hi, David, what's on your mind? Hey? Dan?
Speaker 1: Sixty three one sixty I you're talking about Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: our Afri getting his votes f MVP and Drew Breeze
Speaker 1: has never won one either, and the two have been
Speaker 1: compared to each other for the whole course of Wilson's career.
Speaker 1: To see a similarity there with MVP. Why hasn't Breeze
Speaker 1: ever gotten one either? Why isn't Wait? I didn't follow
Speaker 1: the comparison, you say, and Drew Breese right, So, so
Speaker 1: Wilson and Breeze have been compared to each other, at
Speaker 1: least coming out of college. Right. Wilson was shorter like Breeze.
Speaker 1: And even though Breeze has had phenomenal years watched, there's
Speaker 1: plenty of five thousand passing yard years. What kind of
Speaker 1: dog you got there, David? Thanks? Wait, wait minute, hold,
Speaker 1: I was going to say a Maltese. Oh no, no, Chihuahua,
Speaker 1: Mini pincher Max. She's downstairs too, but she's fighting. Does
Speaker 1: she bark like that all day? Uh? Well, only when
Speaker 1: there are squirrels, and there are always squirrels, so she
Speaker 1: barked like that all day? Thank you, David. H Wait,
Speaker 1: what's the highest that Drew Brees was in the MVP race? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Mcle I see I read it that he was second
Speaker 1: place four times. Yeah, I was surprised. I didn't know
Speaker 1: he never won. Yeah, I didn't remember him winning, but
Speaker 1: I knew that he was close. But Russ hasn't received
Speaker 1: a vote f VP last year. Was Lamar unanimous? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would happened. Then short people are shortest? Wow? Shortest? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Kurt an Oregon. Hey, Kurt, what do you have for me?
Speaker 1: Hey Dan, I want to let you guys know what
Speaker 1: the conversation up here is. In Seattle and mclevins, right,
Speaker 1: a lot of people want Russell Wilson to throw more.
Speaker 1: And some people think, hey, this is Pete Carroll's system.
Speaker 1: This is how he does it. He does the ground game,
Speaker 1: and then let's for us throw the ball. The people
Speaker 1: who want Russ to throw the ball, maybe this is
Speaker 1: a shirt idea. They're they're phrases, let Russ cook. They
Speaker 1: want Russ to just be unleased on the seat on
Speaker 1: this league and show all that he can do and
Speaker 1: carry this team. Yeah, I would love to see it
Speaker 1: if they if they went past first. And thank you, Kurt,
Speaker 1: thank you for updating us on what the buzzy is
Speaker 1: there in Oregon. I appreciate that. By the way, Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes twenty five today, Happy birthday? Good? What do you
Speaker 1: get Patrick Mahomes? Yes, five hundred million coming as well.
Speaker 1: Now that's a tough point. Well, no, that's just on
Speaker 1: the field, Like what's he going to make off the field,
Speaker 1: because now he's taken over for Aaron Rodgers and Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning and now it's Patrick Mahomes doing all these commercials.
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield had a little opportunity. But I think he's
Speaker 1: got the Hulu commercial. That's how many times does that
Speaker 1: run tonight? Hopefully it doesn't run a lot in the
Speaker 1: second half of the season. If the Browns are you know,
Speaker 1: got three wins on the year, yeah, mclub. Would you
Speaker 1: tell him to pull out? Yeah? I think you can't
Speaker 1: tell him, Yes I did, Yeah, yeah, just just play football.
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck just came in and played football. RG three
Speaker 1: got all of the endorsements. And I would say to Baker,
Speaker 1: you know what, just play football. That's it, because those
Speaker 1: commercials don't look good when you're not in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: You know, they they're great during the regular season, like
Speaker 1: you know, Week six, but you know when you get
Speaker 1: to the postseason, not as funny. Yes, he get that money.
Speaker 1: Our RG three's knee didn't blow out because he was
Speaker 1: doing too many commercial shoots. You get that money while
Speaker 1: you can, because I'll tell you what, I bet he's happy.
Speaker 1: He's got it. Now get that money. Oh, we'll take
Speaker 1: a break here. We're gonna talk trading cards. Coming up.
Speaker 1: What are good investments here because there's a whole new
Speaker 1: wave of people investing in Mike Trout, Rookie cards or
Speaker 1: Lebron cards, Kobe cards, even really older cards. We'll talk
Speaker 1: to Gary Vaynerchuk. He is leading the charge with investing
Speaker 1: in trading cards, including Pokemon. We'll talk to him coming up.
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Speaker 1: What kind of cards did you guys collect before we
Speaker 1: bring in Garret growing up? Because I have a bunch
Speaker 1: of cards. When I was at the Mothership in the nineties,
Speaker 1: I had all these cards that were sent to me.
Speaker 1: Never even took them out of the pack. Nascar, I mean,
Speaker 1: you name in all the sports and I have them.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're worth anything, because I'll see
Speaker 1: these Mike Trout rookie card goes for a million dollars
Speaker 1: or something and it's a ten. I don't who do
Speaker 1: I send it to to get it graded? And how
Speaker 1: many of those cards are available in that pack of
Speaker 1: baseball cards? Yes? Time? And who do you trust with
Speaker 1: something like that? They could tell you, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: take it off your hands, it's not worth that much,
Speaker 1: and then they sell it for like fifty times more.
Speaker 1: But I collected baseball, basketball, football, hockey, TV show and
Speaker 1: movie cards. I had like Star Wars, Welcome Back Carter,
Speaker 1: Happy Days, like old seventies and eighties TV shows and movies.
Speaker 1: Do you still have those of your mind? I hope
Speaker 1: they're there somewhere, because if they're there, they should be
Speaker 1: in good condition because they'd be in a box away somewhere. Yeah. Mclovin,
Speaker 1: did you Yeah? I was quick sports cards. But I
Speaker 1: did the thing where I would trade all my like
Speaker 1: all Stars for Phillies. So I'd be like, I'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: Von Hayes for Ken Griffey rookie card. Yes, von Hayes.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone else did that, but I
Speaker 1: focus on the Phillies. It wasn't it Von Hayes, the
Speaker 1: five for one guy? Yes, that that you traded five
Speaker 1: guys for Von Hayes. He was the future of the franchise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Von Purple Hayes was the Bourman nickname for him. Seaton,
Speaker 1: Did you collect My brother was a big collector. But
Speaker 1: I have a lot of memories of us riding our
Speaker 1: bike and it was to go buy baseball cards. You
Speaker 1: had to go like across these two highways. It felt
Speaker 1: like a real journey that would take an entire summer
Speaker 1: day to go get over there. You would look through
Speaker 1: like have all of your paperwrote money, and then and
Speaker 1: then go home. There was always a couple of guys
Speaker 1: that I would get over and over and over where
Speaker 1: it'd be some guy who was really a no name guy,
Speaker 1: but it felt like that every pack or every other pack,
Speaker 1: I was getting the same guy, like Bob Veal was
Speaker 1: a left hander for the Pirates. Bob Veal and I go,
Speaker 1: And then there's probably that if I look back, there
Speaker 1: would be like five or six guys that I got
Speaker 1: fifty cards of. Yes, Ton, Fred Kendall for me, Jim
Speaker 1: Todd and Steve at Vero's Mike lum Dale Answer Dale,
Speaker 1: those are kept coming up. Answer, Paully Wood, did you collect?
Speaker 1: I did the McCloughan thing where I'd trade Mike Schmidt
Speaker 1: for like a like a chet Lemon card straight up,
Speaker 1: or you know, I'd have Steve Garvey rookie card and
Speaker 1: I'd give it up for Gary Matthews and Bob Durnier
Speaker 1: from the Cubs, and my friends would be just but
Speaker 1: the other guys who knew baseball better. I think you
Speaker 1: sure you want to give me Mike Schmidt for chet
Speaker 1: Lem I'm like, yeah, man, it's great. On the socks.
Speaker 1: Let's bring in Gary Vaynerchuk, the entrepreneurial star of vayner Media,
Speaker 1: the CEO. And uh, why the resurgence in collecting sports cards.
Speaker 1: There's multiple reasons one forty five year olds. You know,
Speaker 1: the great year of sports cards in the last three
Speaker 1: four decades was that nineteen eighty five to nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: three range where it was complete, you know, chaos, and
Speaker 1: everybody was into it, and that guy and obviously some
Speaker 1: women as well, but that guy predominantly is now forty
Speaker 1: five to fifty and has children that are now eight
Speaker 1: and nine. And just like in the toy industry and
Speaker 1: other businesses, you see reboots every thirty years, you're seeing
Speaker 1: that with sports. That's one. Two Gambling, the explosion of
Speaker 1: gambling in the last decade. What gamblers are realizing instead
Speaker 1: of daily fantasy and just betting on games, that they're
Speaker 1: able to make more money being right about Jason Tatum
Speaker 1: or Tyler Hero or you know Yanis than even betting
Speaker 1: on those teams or those variables. So that's been a
Speaker 1: huge factor. And then three, you've got the sneaker flipper kids.
Speaker 1: You know, for people that are listening, if you've got
Speaker 1: kids that have been doing this over the last ten years,
Speaker 1: but the flipping of premium sneakers buying and selling, so
Speaker 1: the entrepreneurial element there that's happening. And then for YouTube
Speaker 1: there's the explosion of people opening up packs on the Internet,
Speaker 1: and that being entertainment. This is what's called pack breaking.
Speaker 1: So those are four major things converging at the same time.
Speaker 1: That has really led to and then social media overlay
Speaker 1: like people sharing their Zion pull or their Great Kobe collection.
Speaker 1: You just have a lot of ingredients stand for why
Speaker 1: this is happening. Now what is hot right now? Basketball?
Speaker 1: You know, basketball is uncomfortably hot, both vintage and modern.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people will lose money. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this again, clearly people will lose money
Speaker 1: on modern because they're going to bet on a young player.
Speaker 1: Let's use Tyler Hero because it's relevant who looks all
Speaker 1: the part. But so did Derek Rose. I mean, Derek
Speaker 1: Rose looked more of the part. And injuries are variable.
Speaker 1: If you spent one hundred thousand dollars investing in Derek
Speaker 1: Rose years ago, it would have looked good, but you
Speaker 1: would have got caught like you would have got caught
Speaker 1: on Bo Jackson and Grant Hill and others. But young basketball,
Speaker 1: modern basketball is very hot. Vintage basketball has completely exploded.
Speaker 1: Doctor J Rookie cards in a eight out of ten
Speaker 1: grade as you get more into the world. You know
Speaker 1: that there's companies now that you send it to and
Speaker 1: they grade it PSA, BGSSGC. These are the companies that
Speaker 1: grade cards. A doctor JPSA eight was eight hundred dollars
Speaker 1: a year ago, and now it was an eight thousand
Speaker 1: dollars card. You know, that's a ten times explosion. Are
Speaker 1: these the new stocks? I mean, would you rather invest
Speaker 1: in cards or stocks? I would rather invest in cards,
Speaker 1: But I need everybody to hear this why I'd like
Speaker 1: to diversify from the stocks that I own. When you're dealing,
Speaker 1: you know, times like this uncertainty, potential recession after the
Speaker 1: COVID thing like non stock market assets, alternative assets tend
Speaker 1: to go down, but not as much with upside three.
Speaker 1: It makes me happy. So I would rather own, you know,
Speaker 1: a Will Chamberlain two hundred thousand dollar piece of art
Speaker 1: than an actual piece of art, like I don't want that.
Speaker 1: I don't want a Warhol, I don't want, you know,
Speaker 1: Jackson Pollock. I want the greatest sports cards because of
Speaker 1: my interests, because growing up watching you every single day,
Speaker 1: like that was my life. And because of the rarity.
Speaker 1: I think that the top five percent of sports cards.
Speaker 1: The most rare stuff is about to go through its
Speaker 1: contemporary art phase that we saw in the late sixties,
Speaker 1: seventies and eighties before mentioned war Haul and Pollock. So
Speaker 1: I just think Michael Jordan rookies in a perfect ten,
Speaker 1: there's only three hundred and thirteen of them. Dan, they
Speaker 1: were twenty five thirty thousand about eighteen months ago. They're
Speaker 1: hovering around one hundred thousand. It is my professional investor
Speaker 1: businessman belief that that's a half a million dollars card
Speaker 1: in ten years. That's a good return. Michael Jordan. You
Speaker 1: know when you invest in real estate, neighborhoods, COVID, there's
Speaker 1: pretty much nothing that can happen at this point with
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan outside of I don't want to go there,
Speaker 1: but like outside of an O. J. Simpson like being like,
Speaker 1: you're talking about the rarest of rare thing that can
Speaker 1: do anything to diminish his demand, and the supply is
Speaker 1: non existent, and the demand overall for this art is exploding,
Speaker 1: and I think you're going to see those things play out.
Speaker 1: What's your most valuable card? I bought a PSA nine
Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson nineteen forty eight, Leaf Rookie card with another friend.
Speaker 1: We split it. We spend hundreds and hundreds of thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars each and I believe the card now, based
Speaker 1: on what's happened in the market last two years, could
Speaker 1: be pushing over a million dollars in value because there's
Speaker 1: only nine of them. And I think when you think
Speaker 1: about what Jackie Robinson represents and where America is in
Speaker 1: this life cycle, it's always been an underpriced hard compared
Speaker 1: to Hona Swagger and Babe Ruth and Thy Cobb. And
Speaker 1: I think we're starting to feel the demand really explode
Speaker 1: for it. But I have a bunch of cards at
Speaker 1: home that are still in the packs, and it's from
Speaker 1: the nineties. Yeah, you worthless. And I do because because
Speaker 1: knowing your career and being such an admirer. And this
Speaker 1: is for everyone who's listening, this was what was happening
Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties. There was this gold rush,
Speaker 1: and everyone said, by these things, store them, because what
Speaker 1: was happening the things from the fifties and sixties, the Mantles,
Speaker 1: the Errands, the Clementes were The problem was people didn't
Speaker 1: understand how much supply Tops was making millions in cards
Speaker 1: and by the way, Matt Noakes and Eric so you know,
Speaker 1: Eric Davis and Wally Joyner, and you know, Mike Greenwell
Speaker 1: and Ellis Burks did not become ty Cobb and Mike Greenwell,
Speaker 1: which then made those cards vulnerable. And that's why I
Speaker 1: tell a lot of kids and if you're a parent
Speaker 1: of a kid or a kid listening right now, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about Tyler hero too, and I'm super
Speaker 1: can't wait to watch you know, Jason Tatum and Jaylen
Speaker 1: Brown developed and Donovan Mitchell, and I'm super excited. But
Speaker 1: remember this, unless you're a top one hundred icon, your
Speaker 1: cards are not going to be worth as much as
Speaker 1: you think. Twenty five thirty years round, Kevin Garnett and
Speaker 1: Duncan and Ray Allen are less expensive than some of
Speaker 1: the rookies now because everyone's projecting what John Morant and
Speaker 1: you know and RJ. Barrett and Zion are gonna do
Speaker 1: versus understanding who those players were. And that's why I
Speaker 1: keep saying Dan over and over, vintage, vintage, vintage, vintage,
Speaker 1: That's where the action is. He's Gary Vaynerchuk, He's the
Speaker 1: CEO of vayner Media. But most know him as Gary
Speaker 1: V on social media, a serial entrepreneur, five time New
Speaker 1: York Times best selling author, and host of Tea with
Speaker 1: Gary V every Day, helping entrepreneurs build and grow their
Speaker 1: businesses during the pandemic. What happens if a card is autographed?
Speaker 1: What does that do to the value when it comes
Speaker 1: in the current packs? Over the last fifteen years, the
Speaker 1: card companies have done autographs in packs. That's good if
Speaker 1: it's done by hand, the way that you and I
Speaker 1: grew up. They tend to be lower in value than
Speaker 1: actually the cards, so in that general area, sometimes a
Speaker 1: little bit more depending on who's signing. My son collected
Speaker 1: Pokemon cards I have good. I have the he has
Speaker 1: them in plastic and I actually my wife got him
Speaker 1: for me last night because she knew I was going
Speaker 1: to talk to you today. And I don't know the
Speaker 1: value of that, but he am. I going to be
Speaker 1: rich Gary, Well, Dan, you're rich, So I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know this richer Richard, Yes, if it's the
Speaker 1: right shadowless first edition Charsard Hollow like anything, I have
Speaker 1: a couple of those. Okay, well that gets yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to talk offline here, like I really need
Speaker 1: to know if you have the one, like, you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to text me a picture because because a perfect
Speaker 1: ten Charzard Hollow Shadowless first edition is over one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, let's go shopping here. Yeah, I mean, here's
Speaker 1: what I would say, though, knowing who listens to this
Speaker 1: incredible show, if you love sports, a lot of you
Speaker 1: have decided to gamble because it makes sports that you
Speaker 1: naturally don't have fandom into far more interesting. What I
Speaker 1: know about gambling is it can be bad, and what
Speaker 1: I know about sports cards is you can get the
Speaker 1: same thrill. I mean, I watched that Maverick's Clippers series
Speaker 1: like crazy because when I first got back in two
Speaker 1: years ago, I decided through the first half of his
Speaker 1: career that Luca Knownedge was going to be something really special,
Speaker 1: and he affirmed that this year and especially in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting on a massive amounts of Luca rookies
Speaker 1: that I paid thirty five dollars for that We're at
Speaker 1: two thousand dollars at the height of that run. Now
Speaker 1: they're down to twelve thirteen hundred seasons over. But as
Speaker 1: you can imagine, Luca eliminating the Clippers would have done
Speaker 1: some real damage and probably would have pushed it to
Speaker 1: three thousand. The juices were going. That was a Clippers
Speaker 1: MAVs game that I wouldn't watch a year ago. So
Speaker 1: for everybody's listening, if you know, a lot of us
Speaker 1: love to debate sports, and we all play Monday Morning quarterback,
Speaker 1: for example, I'm very glad that I wasn't making content
Speaker 1: about my points of view and Patrick Moomes coming out
Speaker 1: of college, I would have been uncomfortably historically incorrect. I
Speaker 1: didn't see it, and he's got all the pieces in
Speaker 1: place to be all time scary. It's great to talk
Speaker 1: to you, Gary, thank you for sharing, and hope to
Speaker 1: cross pans with you again soon anytime. And by the way, Dan,
Speaker 1: please tell me something that can give me some optimism
Speaker 1: on my New York Jet season. Can give me something
Speaker 1: like I'm in a real funk. There's only fifteen games left, Garry,
Speaker 1: what about Beckton is a shore Fire Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: I mean he looks incredible thirteen seconds into his career.
Speaker 1: Have you bought any of his rookie cards? I haven't
Speaker 1: because Anthony Muno's rookie cards are like six dollars. Oh,
Speaker 1: offensive linemen are not going to change our careers. Thank you.
Speaker 1: By the way, Beckton's injured, He's not playing this weekend.
Speaker 1: Not true. I'm too on top of my stuff, Paulie.
Speaker 1: Is Beckton playing this? Mclove and is Beckton playing Jess?
Speaker 1: Came across the wire that McKay Beckton pulled out of
Speaker 1: practice with an injury. Now, I don't know how severe
Speaker 1: it is, Gary V. Look it up. I believe you
Speaker 1: thought I am. I am literally literally dead. I just
Speaker 1: thought I'm dead. Oh my god, it's true, and I
Speaker 1: sorry to break the news to you. Gear. I am
Speaker 1: literally dead when I tell you that, I am in
Speaker 1: such a catonic state of like holding on too well.
Speaker 1: At least we have Jonathan Ogden for this to be
Speaker 1: live right now? Yeah, I mean, all right, Dan, we'll
Speaker 1: talk to keep your head up. I cannot believe that
Speaker 1: just happened. Oh boy. I hated to do it to
Speaker 1: him because he loves the Jets so much, but he
Speaker 1: asked me about Beckton. I thought, well, let me give
Speaker 1: him an update. Yeah, McLevin. Was Beckton that good at
Speaker 1: his first game that he already has him in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Tame? They got destroyed. They got blown out
Speaker 1: by the Bills that he saw Jonathan Oton, Oh, that's
Speaker 1: a Gary Vaynerchuck, CEO of Vynermedia. We'll take a break,
Speaker 1: Last call for phone calls, What we learned? What's in
Speaker 1: store tomorrow? We'll do that right after this. Thanks for
Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to
Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern
Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you
Speaker 1: can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or
Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock app. Last call for
Speaker 1: phone calls? What we learned? What's in store tomorrow? Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson will be on the program tomorrow. Here's the state
Speaker 1: of pro football in Ohio and New York City since
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Cleveland Browns they have won fourteen games. The
Speaker 1: Jets have won twenty one games, The Bengals have won
Speaker 1: twenty one games. The Giants have won twenty three games.
Speaker 1: Those are the worst records that you're going to find
Speaker 1: over that period. So tonight the Cleveland Browns against the Bengals,
Speaker 1: and the Browns are favored by six points. Who's the
Speaker 1: backup quarterback for the Cleveland Browns McLellan. It's a certain
Speaker 1: guy out of Cody, Texas named Case Keenum. Oh, Case Keenum.
Speaker 1: Do you think how about this? Here's your question. Does
Speaker 1: Case Keenum start a game this year in which Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield is not injured? Yes? Well, Case Keenum knows Kevin
Speaker 1: Stefanski from that great year in Minnesota. So that's the reason.
Speaker 1: He has to know the offense way better than Baker.
Speaker 1: So if the team falls apart, even it's Bakers, maybe
Speaker 1: they try to switch up just because that knowledge of
Speaker 1: the offense. Okay, but you're asking I'm virus obviously, yes
Speaker 1: you are. Yeah, But I was curious though, if I
Speaker 1: don't know Baker Mayfield's on a short lea share like,
Speaker 1: I don't know the inner workings with the Browns, But
Speaker 1: I have to believe you've got to be invested in him.
Speaker 1: You have to show that confidence in him. I just
Speaker 1: wonder if he struggles, how long he struggles for and
Speaker 1: maybe plays great. Maybe maybe they act like they're supposed
Speaker 1: to act. The open leaderboard, Tiger's up there, he's in
Speaker 1: the top ten. You got some big names, Roy McElroy,
Speaker 1: Justin Thomas in there. If you're going to get this
Speaker 1: golf course. Get it today, because I don't think you're
Speaker 1: going to get it starting tomorrow. Conditions are pretty good today,
Speaker 1: but after this. That's why a lot of golfers love
Speaker 1: to play the US Open, and they want to play
Speaker 1: on Thursday morning. They want to get out early because
Speaker 1: if you're going to get a golf course, a US
Speaker 1: Open course, your best chances on Thursday morning. And you've
Speaker 1: seen some pretty good scores from those guys who are
Speaker 1: out there right now. A couple of phone calls John
Speaker 1: and Kentucky joins us. Hey, John, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call? I said, Ohio boy, So
Speaker 1: what do you think of the night over? Hundred forty
Speaker 1: three and a half? No, nope, nope, nope. I won't
Speaker 1: do that. I won't do that, John, because if I
Speaker 1: do and you lose, then you get mad, and if
Speaker 1: you win, then I don't get anything. So it's it's
Speaker 1: a no win situation over under what was it forty
Speaker 1: three and a half. You want to parlay that with
Speaker 1: the basketball night? Right now? Can you bet? Can you do?
Speaker 1: Almost like we do with horse racing, Like let's say
Speaker 1: you wanted to bet a trifecta? Could I bet Rory
Speaker 1: justin Thomas and Tiger Woods, and then they finished the first, second, third,
Speaker 1: but no particular order. I don't know if you can
Speaker 1: bet that way in golf the way you can with
Speaker 1: horse racing, Yampole, I'm checking that. So you would box,
Speaker 1: You pick like three golfers you like, pay a fee,
Speaker 1: and you get their combined odds to win the tournament. Yeah, checking,
Speaker 1: And then somebody put down a pretty good chunk of
Speaker 1: change on Phil Mickelson. A lot of the money is
Speaker 1: on Tiger Woods to win. Like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: bet for somebody I like, I want to bet somebody
Speaker 1: who I think is going to win. But you know,
Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson the scene of the crime, you know. But
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six when he lost Jeff Ogilvie
Speaker 1: and I think the winning score was like plus five.
Speaker 1: But Phil had that tournament, and Phil has been runner up.
Speaker 1: I think four US Opens, Jack Nicholas was runner up.
Speaker 1: I think in seven US Opens, Jampole, Dan, You could
Speaker 1: bet on a group of golfers that you like. You
Speaker 1: could pick a group of golfers and your odds are
Speaker 1: dating based on that. You could bet on the nationality
Speaker 1: of the winner you could bet a nationality and if
Speaker 1: a remember that, uh you know, wins that you're you're
Speaker 1: good to go. But how how much can you bet
Speaker 1: on a side bet? Like there's a bet? Yeah, prop
Speaker 1: bed because I don't think you could bet one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars on a prop bet? Could you like this?
Speaker 1: To bet on the national anthem, it's usually kept at
Speaker 1: fifty bucks or one hundred bucks or one of those things.
Speaker 1: But to bet on a group of golfers together, it
Speaker 1: would be unlimited. Patrick in New York challenges, Hey, Patrick,
Speaker 1: what do you have for me? They did five to
Speaker 1: nine buck eighty five two questions. I'm on the New
Speaker 1: York State through way head into the Boxing Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: But I got college football question. Okay, with all these
Speaker 1: conferences starting at different times Halloween, Now, how are you
Speaker 1: going to get a national champion? You're gonna eliminate some
Speaker 1: conferences or what are they gonna do? No, they all
Speaker 1: have to be done by December nineteenth. It's it's not
Speaker 1: when you start, it's when you finished, Patrick, and have
Speaker 1: fun at the Boxing Hall of Fame. Because you have
Speaker 1: the Big ten title game. You have to be done
Speaker 1: by the time they have the selection show, and that
Speaker 1: is the day after the Big ten title game. No
Speaker 1: matter when you start, you have to be done by then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a club. I think the Boxing Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: thing it's a bit of unnecessary information. It's okay, it's
Speaker 1: a bit of a brag, is it. Well, he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm going into boxing Hall of Fame. Now, let me
Speaker 1: ask you about college football. If he'd asked a boxing question,
Speaker 1: I don't know where the Boxing Hall of Fame is.
Speaker 1: Where should it be? Like without if you didn't know,
Speaker 1: Somewhere in New York City or Detroit, Canistota, New York.
Speaker 1: It's probably a scenic drive there on the Parkway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mclov it looks gorgeous. We're pulled up road trip. Nah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: see right in October. Yeah, I'd rather just keep going
Speaker 1: to West Point? Is that where you covered? Did you
Speaker 1: say you went up to see Mike Tyson up state
Speaker 1: somewhere when he was living at Customatto's house. Cuss had
Speaker 1: already died and Mike was living there with Cuss his wife,
Speaker 1: And that was the first time I met him, nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty six. I believe is he fighting next weekend against
Speaker 1: Roy Jones? Jr. Somehow, I think Roy Jones Junior is
Speaker 1: going to regret this decision to get in the ring
Speaker 1: with Mike Tyson because I think he feels like it's
Speaker 1: an exhibition. Hey, two Hall of famers getting in here
Speaker 1: and throwing a couple of punches. I gets feeling Mike's
Speaker 1: going to go in there and probably want to rough
Speaker 1: him up a little bit. Can you imagine that, Tod?
Speaker 1: I think that, Roy, that's when you do your Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1: I think you think, no, no, no, it's like shutting
Speaker 1: me up. You're not on your game. You were asking
Speaker 1: about the dates of the boxing. Sorry, that threw me up.
Speaker 1: I thought you were looking for something like look an
Speaker 1: actually answer. I was looking for your Tyson imitation. Nobody
Speaker 1: can beat me up. Can't be beating? Ain't too late
Speaker 1: that this day in sports history point nineteen twenty, the
Speaker 1: American Professional Football Association Association was foreign in Canton, Ohio.
Speaker 1: It became the National Football League. It could have been
Speaker 1: the APFA M that wouldn't go as well for a
Speaker 1: commentator today. Nineteen sixty one in the Minnesota Vikings debuted
Speaker 1: as their first game as an NFL team, and in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three, Dan, your guy, Johnny Bench and the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Reds retired for sixteen years as a catcher, the
Speaker 1: greatest catcher of all time. Probably listen to the show
Speaker 1: Jay Rod Bench. Yes, yeah, let's go around the room.
Speaker 1: What we learned? The final results of the pull question
Speaker 1: mclove who's a more surefire first bound Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson or Antonio Brown? And with Calvin Johnson, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's a total anti Antonio Brown vote, though, Todd? What
Speaker 1: did you learn them? Today's program at forty likes the
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State Cowboys to potentially crash the college football playoff party. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that might save Mike Gundy. Mclovin, what did you learn?
Speaker 1: You might be a card holding millionaire, but he's a
Speaker 1: Pokemon Seeton. But that box of baseball cards you've been
Speaker 1: holding onto for the last thirty years probably worth not
Speaker 1: worth anything, Paul Yester, The Boxing Hall of Fame is
Speaker 1: in Kyla Stah blah blah, New York. Todd, what did
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